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Context here is polarizing movies.
Not everyone agrees on the movies that we talk about here.
Some love it.
Some hate it.
Those two camps are the audiences and the critics.
They always disagree here on all the movies that we talk about.
This one is not the most polarizing movie, but it is a rotten critics.
58%, a fresh popcorn symbol, 75% for the audience.
And it was not critically favored.
It is audience favored.
And all I have to say is dear hummingbird, break up the fine China, chill the lemonade
and tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree because this boy is coming home to his
ladies.
Welcome to the great brandy show, everyone.
Get on in here.
Oh, this brandy is coming home to his ladies.
Oh, yeah.
Do you think his accent is offensive to people from Alabama?
Do you think they love that?
I think that's one of the more polarizing things in the movie full of really touchy,
sensitive, racially and.
Well, they're not sensitive about anything, but it's insensitive for a lot of reasons.
But I think the Southern accent for Nick Cage, I feel like the reviews I've read, it's either
I'm from the South and it's not accurate, but I love it for just.
Good.
I hope people like, you know, enjoying.
He's trying, I guess.
They can't be sort of laughing at the sort of movie side of things rather than, you know,
like it's like you're in on the joke a little bit.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So Calcifer dudes, if there's some so Calcifer talking like, you know, making fun of us like
we get it.
I'm completely unaware.
But hey, we're here.
We're back.
We're back, baby.
It's been it's been a little, a little bit.
It's been a minute.
Let's let's let's I don't know.
Let's chat for a bit before we jump into spoiler alert.
A fun ass movie.
I think that's not really a spoiler.
I think most people that way about it.
But yeah, it's a fun ass movie.
It's an ass fun movie.
I don't know.
It's a super ass fun.
Well, I mean, it relates to the movie a little bit, but you took a trip.
You took a plane to Vegas.
I didn't.
I didn't play, but I was in Vegas, baby.
Yeah.
Okay.
The Viva Las Vegas Vegas, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
That's kind of what, you know, I think that's what spawned this a little bit because I was
went on a big old trip to Vegas and, you know, was knew I was going to be brain dad.
So I was like, let's pick up.
You two was like, we need help.
Great.
Brandini got to open for your show.
Man, there's just been so you open for that.
Your content.
Yeah, we open for them.
I was actually that DJ out there.
Yeah.
But no, it was, it was a good time, man.
Really, really good time.
Went to that festival.
Got to see Kendrick Lamar.
That was my highlight.
Really, really great shit.
Yeah.
What a performer that guy is out of blast.
So I'm going to ask people.
And then yeah, I don't know.
We, uh, we're here.
How about you?
What have you been up to?
Yeah.
I mean, I, uh, what has what's been going on with me?
I guess I did a couple of concerts myself.
I didn't because I'm trying to remember last time I was on the pile.
Last what I talked about.
But if we're doing it, we're in BDB concert report.
I went to Pixie's modest mouse, cat power in the opposite order was cat power and then
minus mouse and then Pixie's, uh, was headlining.
But, uh, that was an amazing show at the Hollywood Bowl.
Absolutely amazing.
All like, all my shit.
All like, I just love all those bands.
Um, wish I'd gone.
I've been there a bit earlier for cat power.
I've said seven 30.
I got there like right on time and she was already on playing a few songs.
I was like, oh man, you should.
I was fashionably late.
Look at how fashionable I am.
Um, but she was, uh, on time.
And, and fashionable.
I don't know how she does it.
And then all of them, yeah, doing that for a while.
A lot of legacy acts at this point, right?
James and I know they're showing our age.
Yes.
Definitely when they're grouping them together, really like tells me what
kind of person I am.
Cause I'm like, that's exactly what I want to see.
And then getting tickets for that.
I got tickets for the death cab for QD playing all of trans trans
island.
And also postal service playing their full album front to back.
Jenny Lewis is going to be there and all that shit too.
So it's like, I'm like, oh, well, yeah, I just, all these shows,
they're just speaking directly to me.
And so it's, yeah, it's interesting being, uh, promoted that way.
But God damn it.
It isn't cool.
Just especially when you see like, cause you saw the shins, uh,
recently too, so was it shoots to narrow and they were just playing
that album front to back.
And it's like, they're doing these, they do these like anniversary
shows where they just play these albums that you just love so much.
And to go to a show knowing exactly what to expect is pretty great.
Um, and then it's great.
You know, that is kind of a good quality about it.
Cause yeah, you definitely know what the set list is going to look like.
It's great if you don't as well, but that's, it's, there's something to it.
And then we're, we're, yeah, at least if I am going to see a death cab for
Cutie show, I'm probably most likely, I don't know, not going to make a huge deal
out of it. Cause I'm like, oh, well, if they're playing all their new stuff,
I'm not sure if I'm going to like, Pony, Pony up to go up and, and,
and make us make a thing out of it.
But the fact that they're putting those two albums together really speaks to
like a time in my life where those, those really hit.
And that's exactly like what I would want to see if they were to play a show.
So it's like, oh, you got me.
Um, yeah, fucking got me.
Shut up and take my money.
Oh, cap power.
Monus mouse.
Yeah. You fucking got me.
It is so interesting to me that cap power was the headliner.
I didn't realize that cap power.
She was not the headliner.
She opened and then it went, and then it went minus mouse and then Pixies was
that one.
Got it. Got it.
Okay. That makes sense.
Yes.
And modest mouse.
Yes.
Sounded really fucking good.
And I've seen some shows for them.
I wrote that.
Hit or miss with them.
Hit or miss.
And it was a big hit for me.
And then one last show that I went to, uh, was, uh,
I went back to the shrine.
You and I saw Jamie X X there one time and it was the same setup,
except I saw Kelly Leones and a fucking underworld.
How many bars were there and where they're the same?
Yeah.
It was the same exact thing.
It's so funny because when you first walk in, there's a couple bars and
there's like a, there's a line at both of them and you're kind of like,
oh, so I grabbed my drink.
It takes you long, but I grabbed it and then went in and then there's just
like five, five to set up.
Five to seven bars on one side, five to seven on the other side.
I know it's like five bartenders on one, five on the other.
And then there's no lines.
I'm like, I feel bad.
I was like, all these lines in the very front, they got to get people in here.
Yeah.
Right.
Absolutely.
That's so funny.
Cause yeah, it's just, it's a unique situation.
Cause I mean, yeah, typically the bars are located in the lobby area.
And when you walk in, right?
But yeah, God, that is so dangerous to have them literally next to the dance floor.
Oh yeah.
And it was done with one.
You're like, well, might as well get another.
There's ample room for everyone.
There's, it's like a nice clean flat, uh, you know, like dance floor that you can
slip and slide on and everything.
I don't know.
There was just like, uh, just good, it was a good crew of, of old kind of rave,
older kind of ravers, um, 90s early 2000s kind of, kind of ravers just kind of
going, going hard.
And that show, yeah, those Kelly Leones wasn't like singing or anything.
It was just DJ side, but that was, I love her.
She's, she's one of my favorites.
I can always see another show for us.
Fuck yeah.
Yeah.
I'm glad we're, uh, we're getting out there.
We're seeing, seeing music.
Uh, it's something that I just crave more and more and, and having those moments.
I just, yeah, I look forward to and even when it like, I'm like, I don't know if I
can, if I, you know, Kelly Leones underworld show, like one of my cats died recently.
And so it was the day after that.
And I was like, ah, I don't know.
I don't know.
This is a lot to kind of do.
I'm not in like the proper headspace to handle this, but then once you're there,
it's a really cathartic experience seeing live music regardless of what, uh, what
mood you're in.
Um, and, oh, I'd also really like to see, I don't know if, I hope it's still going,
uh, fucking stop making sense is, oh my God.
I'd really like to see that.
So we can have, of live music and just being able to see, uh, um, that movie and theaters,
I think would be really fun.
I should, I should go out and do that.
I think so too.
God, there was, I saw a Tik Tok of there.
They were showing it where it was like kind of an underground club and it was being
projected on a screen.
And I feel like that would be just such an ideal way to see that.
Cause yeah, like sitting down for sure sounds nice cause it's a John,
what is it?
Jonathan Demi, Jonathan Demi.
Yeah.
Uh, movie and it looks great and it's so fun to watch, but yeah, to be more in like a
concert-esque sort of way would just be, you know, where people are having beers and
totally dancing around and stuff would be really fun.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
If there are some special shows in LA that are particularly doing that where it's more
of that kind of experience rather than a theater.
Apparently there's like this theater, like they, uh, they just made like down the road
for most of it's like a, they show like old, like screenings of older movies and then
they have all these like videos that you can rent and shit.
You can rent there and everything like videos and DVDs and stuff.
Uh, and I guess David, David Byrne went there and then watched the movie there and, uh,
yeah, I saw pictures and I was like, fuck, that's so cool.
That he was like down the road down the way for me, like watching his own movie and all
that.
Um, but yeah, I'd really like to check that out.
Um, fuck.
Yeah.
Well, uh, I got a show coming up to the end of this month.
I'm going to go see the rat boys.
I don't know if you've heard that band at all.
I don't think so.
No.
Yeah.
Pretty fun stuff as well.
But yeah, God, just concerts are the fucking best.
I felt so like, even though I was really like brain dead, I felt so rejuvenated after
going to that festival because yeah, I think yes, live music just fills the soul.
Definitely.
We're huge, we're huge fans of music here, but we're also huge fans of movies, right?
This is a movie fan of this movie.
This is such a movie.
I don't want to, I, yeah, I don't want to, you know, this is my cards close to the vest
and all on this.
No, that's getting out there and shout from the mountain tops that this movie is so much
fucking fun and I really enjoy the shit out of it.
This, and like, I picture like Breckheimer or I don't know, maybe whoever, or whoever
maybe approaching, maybe it's someone approaching Breckheimer and be like, hey, like what if,
what if there was this big plane flying somewhere and they had to like transfer all those dangerous
criminals and the criminals like took it over and then explosions and it's like, and it
was just like, and then what if, and then what if like it, and that's a lot of his movies
for that matter, but this one works on, on exactly that level for me that I just buy
in almost immediately and it's in such, I don't know, it's in such Congress, Congress
with itself, like it has such a pace, it sticks to it.
It doesn't like veered, veer off the pathway.
I mean, it's, it's really a traveling movie and I think that does help its case.
It's just going from point A to B and they can't really fuck around with it and get to
up its own ass, which I mean it does in it, but a very fun sort of way.
It's, it's a straight shot out of a pistol into my heart and I, and I love it as well.
Yeah.
Oh, and yeah, just from, no, there's no way because I, this movie is a cold classic.
It wasn't obviously, you know, the reason we're talking about it wasn't favored by
critics because obviously there are very glaring like issues.
I got him so apprehensive to say issues because in my mind, they're part of its character.
They're like, you know, we'll make it unique and uniquely enjoyable in comparison to like
other Brokheimer movies or other movie action movies of the same elk because
there are a lot of those movies that fall flat because they're not really fun or funny
or they're just too ridiculous that you're just constantly being like, oh, you know,
or are you fucking kidding me or too realistic, which the action action movies, especially
in our childhood, like, I don't know, you were even post dark night and all the born
stuff was all very and I mean, even post 9 11 and everything is just like all very
grounded in realism and like the consequences of some of the action that is placed.
And this is just like so carefree and willy nilly fun sort of way of doing it.
And you have you have to buy in early or or or tap out early as well.
Like it's it's it's either going to hit you right off the bat or you're just going to like
reject it and that's I think even getting to the the polarizing nature right off the
bat is like it's a big dumb action movie for better or worse.
And I think that that's a lot of the critics issues with it.
But then if you take those things away that don't make it that and try to fix it quotations
in some way, then you're going to bring both of those scores down because then it's just
going to suck on all fronts. It's just going to be like Vanilla and Luke warm and basic,
you know, and I don't know.
I would and there's I don't know.
I'm trying to go like what what makes like some some of the best action movies for us.
And I think there's just this period of time here where it's like this is Nicholas Cage's
action movie phase with face off and all that shit.
It's like it's hard to it's hard to see that.
Yeah, he's in what I would say like is he just it's a grand start.
It's a grand slam happening for him right now.
We're we're coming off of leaving Las Vegas, which he won an account.
Another Vegas movie.
But also, honey, moon Vegas.
Sorry, I was like, oh, you've seen so many Vegas movies.
Honey, moon Vegas.
And then his snake eyes.
Yeah, guys.
It's in Vegas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like gambling.
I wasn't sure if it was big wouldn't be surprised if like, yeah, I don't know.
There's another one.
There's gotta be another one out there.
But yeah, the string of movies he's been in is the rock connair and face off.
Holy fuck.
Yeah.
Wow.
Holy shit.
What a what a trifecta of and yeah, leaving Las Vegas is really great too.
That kind of kicks it off because yeah, before that.
He wins a fucking Oscar and then he just goes and has fun.
And it seems like he does exactly what he wants in this period of time.
And that eventually I feel like maybe bites him in the ass where he does a lot
of what he wants and he doesn't think about the consequences maybe.
And so he has to make it back and do things maybe that he doesn't
necessarily want to do.
But damn it.
He's a good actor and he makes it look like he does want to be there every
time and he probably does.
I don't know.
He's just a consummate professional and that's those are the stories that I hear.
And this one he's so like tuned into the bullshit that he's doing.
He's got it all figured out in his head and it's completely ass and I am
like bullshit, but he's got it all figured out.
Absolutely.
But he does know it does.
I think you're speaking at the heart of this, which is again parts.
There are performances in this that have a lot of are very committed,
though.
Insane.
Yeah, very flat and seriostereotype based on stereotypes a lot based on.
Yeah.
That's where you get into the critical side of it is like all of these
characters are based like they're very shallow, very thin as what what the
concept is, but everybody as the actor commits to what that.
What that kind of person would be.
And it just makes for such an enjoyable watch because yeah, the roster on
this lot of deep as hell.
So many actors that yeah, you can really just have been acting in a yeah,
because like for a long time and because they're great.
And I mean, man, when you know, what's funny to think about is like when it
comes to John Malkovich is like, this is the movie I think about him.
Right.
Like, I don't know if there is.
It's kind of weird or a cheat to be to think of being John Malkovich.
Sure.
Yeah, totally, but it's hard because it's just like it's all part of it.
It's in the name of for sure.
But this is like an app.
Yeah.
For sure.
Like a legendary role for him.
What other what other things are is he a villain in because I feel like
he just makes such a great film.
And I think there's a Clint Eastwood movie that I'm not super familiar with,
but he's in that run as well where he's he's very much villainous.
I think his character in Burn After Reading is so weird and fun too.
But I love him.
And Bill Hader's impression of him on SNL.
Also, just a side note, but he I think expressed frustration in my
little IMDB trivia notes that, you know, they were rewriting the script
every single day and he just wasn't sure what his character was.
And so he was kind of flying by the seat of his pants.
But then I don't know, you put a very accomplished professional
thespian like him in the midst of all these goons.
And, you know, he's he's going to lay down lay down the jams, man.
He's going to he's really feels like he's just hold.
He's trying to hold the chaos together.
And I feel like that's what set was as well.
Was it just all these meatheads?
He's like, I got to be kind of the brains a little bit here.
Oh, my God, which is just such an ideal position for him to be in,
because I think he just thrives so much on his like.
He is a particular person.
He he could he just comes off as can be probably pretty controlling
and has just a like, you know, a very complex and vision of something
and wants to see that through and people that aren't like helping
and assisting in that way could be frustrating to him.
Because you just all intimidating.
He seems very standoffish. Yeah.
Right. Maybe that's just, you know, but none.
Cyrus, the virus is absolutely legendary of a character.
Big time. Yeah.
I love him in this.
And I mean, how about a sec? Oh, oh, he's he is the unsung hero
of this movie. I think without you, right?
He is the glue that really, you know, pun intended grounds this movie.
Am I right? Hello.
Up and off, baby.
But yeah, that joke really landed.
Yes.
We're heating up.
We're on. We're we're going to. Yeah.
We're going to catch on fire here.
So we'll look out.
Watch out.
In the land of the king.
Yes. OK. So John Cusack loved him.
He's he is.
I love it. Like a smart.
He plays such a smart guy in a way that I don't know.
I really enjoy because he's always like very like almost too intelligent
for his own good.
And it's to his detriment. And this is kind of that.
But I love how I don't know.
It's it always works for me when somebody's pretty competent at their job.
And there's a lot of competency coming out of Cusack.
It's not because I think in a worse off movie that I've seen before
that's like a Jason to this would be he's kind of like like,
like, oh, I've lost control.
And he's like freaking out because his baby of this trip has gone
completely off the rails.
They laid that on the on his heel like the other guy.
They put that on all hit on all of the other dude.
And then Colmini Colmini.
Yes. And then they make him John Cusack,
maintain his cool and able to like get the job done.
Like he is not he fucking hates Cole and all that shit, obviously.
But he's not kind of the left.
It's not to the point that he's spiteful.
And in so far that it'll affect his job performance.
He gets the fucking job done regardless of all the shit that he has
to fucking deal with.
And that's that's what I like is that it doesn't really affect his performance.
And, you know, he takes the dude's car.
But in my mind, that seems circumstantial.
And even if he didn't hate it, it just goes fast.
Like, even if I liked the guy, I might be like, hey, sorry, I got to take your car.
And like, you know, whatever.
But it just worked out that way.
And I was even more fun and sending it through the watch tower was fucking awesome.
Yeah. Amazing effect. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, you're so right.
Because like at the end of the day, QSAC comes out being like a real hero of this.
Having navigated all of the, you know, issues of the movie that are that are
that happen within the movie.
And yeah, I don't know getting them.
Well, let's just.
I'm just thinking about there are a fair amount of casualties, but that's not really on QSAC,
but nonetheless.
Yeah, you come out feeling like, yeah, he QSAC really was great at his job
and helped to get this all figured out.
The only thing is I feel like he makes a linen suit look like how I would look in
a linen suit instead of how like Pierce Brosnan does look in the world.
The world is not enough.
There's a lot of creases.
I don't know.
It's a very hot day.
It looks like fabric.
Yeah, it's very like not fitted to him and it's very.
Yeah, too big.
And there's a shit ton of wrinkles and creases and it just looks like he's got a long shoot day
and you can see every crease in it.
And I'm like, man, I always want a suit like that and want to look like world is not enough.
And I don't know how they, they must have really just been ironing that.
I don't know.
Steaming that suit between, between every take for Pierce on the world is not enough
because that suit looks great.
Or maybe he's just a very handsome man.
Quick bond tangent.
It's that time of the year and I have, I, yeah, I'm just back back in bond again, you know,
just doing bond again.
Oh, yeah.
Doing the Pierce Brosnan stuff.
Okay.
That's the phase.
Yeah.
So back.
I've been meaning to go back through the tea, the couple tea doll.
So I've been wanting to rewatch those two again.
I feel like.
Oh yeah.
It's there's just one on Amazon.
I feel like they're, yeah.
I don't know.
They always kind of jump around.
Yeah.
Up around.
Jump.
Get down.
Jump.
Hey.
That always makes me think of a happy Gilmore.
There's like a little montage of where they.
Oh yeah.
It's such a montage song.
That's a montage movie.
How many montages are in there?
Ooh, what is, no, no, we Rocky.
Is it Rocky four?
Rocky four is the most.
Is the most montage movie right?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I was trying to, it's three or four.
I feel like it's four.
So many so that we were joking about the fact that it's like,
wow, this movie most of cost next to nothing.
It's just, it's just a recycled clips of the previous movie.
And then the rest of it is all a montage.
Yeah.
Wow.
So golden eye is the best Pierce Brosnan, right?
Yeah.
Hands down for me.
I mean, that movie is one of my favorite Bond movies in general.
Like a Martin Campbell, like him doing that and it could see no real.
Like, oh, those, those two.
And then what's the guy guy?
It's it is guy.
His name is guy Hanson.
That's the guy.
I like him a lot to you.
He's directed some hits for me.
But that's, is that your favorite too?
What's your second favorite Pierce?
Second favorite Pierce is probably, I think it just goes into menacing returns
for me if I were to put her.
I think I might switch world is not enough and tomorrow never dies.
I would switch the, but then you got Denise Richard.
And then you, that's what I was going to say.
Michelle.
Yeah, there's so much better.
Yeah.
Like I, I would almost agree with you that like that's what it hangs on
between the two is the fact that that world is not as Denise that has Christmas
and she is the most wooden like, I don't know.
She's going to be just an example of like, you want to see what it's.
Yeah.
What not to do when it comes to being a wooden hollow.
Yeah.
Like just, I don't know, like a cardboard cut out.
Yeah. I'm a rocket scientist.
So what?
What are that?
What's your name?
Anyways.
Yeah.
Yeah. What if a con air was a bond girl that would have been cool.
Yeah.
Just first name con, last name errors.
What's your?
Yeah.
Just like, yeah, he just comes out as like a femme fatale or something.
Or he's like laying on the bed and when James Bond comes to a good,
gets some checks into a hotel room, marks in and sees just Nicholas Cage laying
on the bed with that.
Wow.
Yeah.
With that hair.
I mean, God, yeah.
It's hard to mistake him as a man.
No, it's not.
Did you order room service?
We look insane.
Almost the entire time.
What a look and he's just like, yeah, and he's rips.
It's really, it's really his prime.
I feel like he is so young in his career.
It's kind of crazy.
And there's multiple dips and is in his career.
I feel like to where he goes into crazy town, come around.
Yeah.
For sure does like redeemable stuff or legit stuff.
But then I don't know.
It's just he never seems to lose steam in himself.
He never seems to lose spirit or anything.
This this movie just, yeah, it gives me life.
I feel like I've seen it many times and I could watch it again right now
and and be fine.
I feel like I know it is one of those movies too,
where I almost forget some parts of the beginning because I would always
pick it up.
Yeah.
I would always like pick up that song midway through or something on TV
and just like, oh, it's kind of that the part that I've seen the least is
probably like though there's like an opening military montage.
And speaking of montages and everything about his service.
And we're like, we're honorably discharged, right?
And then, uh, yeah, at a bar where a couple of fellows up to no good.
Trying to make some trouble in the cage of neighborhood.
Do you dig it at all?
How do I breathe without you?
That one.
Yeah.
Yearwood.
How do I live?
I think it's a prediction.
Fuck.
Yeah.
I did.
I thought it was Leanne Rimes, which she does a version of the song,
but it's Trisha Yearwood, which yeah, Trisha Yearwood,
too familiar with her career, but this movie starts off like a music video,
which this director, Simon West is a music video director.
It was funny to hear him in an interview.
Talk about how let's go to an old steel mill and shoot.
Yeah.
It's gonna be raining.
That's why I did with Trisha.
She loved it.
Um, the music video shop before this was, uh,
Rick Astley is never going to give you up.
And then not sure if you've heard of that song.
Anybody.
I know, right?
But it wasn't note.
Most people had not heard that song by the time he was plucked to be the
director of this.
So it's funny for him to be like, it's not like people were on set being
like, Oh, the Rick Astley guy.
Oh yeah.
You made the Budweiser frauds.
Nice.
Exactly.
Everybody was like, Oh, I love that Budweiser fraud commercial.
You did.
And so I'm sure they were actually telling them that on set.
Oh no, they, he said,
Oh, all the guys are like, Oh, yeah, help me up.
I love that.
I watched it on Sunday night.
Absolutely.
He said as much.
And, um, so yeah, like, and it's just so crazy how many directors, um,
that's their start is to do music videos and then to transition into, uh,
films.
Um, because yeah, I don't know how you just.
So a lot of different types of smaller scale production.
Um, that's where Michael comes from, which is coming up.
David Fincher.
Oh, the rock.
I don't know where the rock is in this before or after, but.
The rock is before, I believe it goes the rock conner face off.
Yeah.
That's how that chops up.
Um, but yeah, uh, the music video.
Mobile Alabama is where we're at right now and, uh, you just
immediately are introduced to, uh, Nick cages.
Yeah.
Borderline offensive, uh, southern accent, uh, because he's talking to his baby
girl who's pregnant and is a.
Patriots at a bar.
Yeah.
He's got a no wig.
He's got normal hair, got the accent.
He's talking to her flat stomach.
Uh, she's like six packs.
She's fresh, fresh, freshly peck pregnant.
Yeah.
He must have just had sex in the bathroom.
I know.
Well, yeah, it makes you wonder because it's like, I thought he was in the
military.
Yeah.
He must have came home and so with the uniform on, just unzipped and it
was so funny to me that he arrived to the bar via boat.
Oh, did he really?
He was like, is that where the guys clocked him or maybe it's just,
no, no, no, it just, that's, um, you know, that's where he, he gets off the,
which is so, uh, just cracked me up because it is like more metaphorical
because logistically there's no way the military is just sending people out
back home via boat.
Like they're definitely sending you via play.
You can't get them on a plane that early in the movie.
You're going to save a little bit before you get them in the plane.
Cause right now, if people are going to blow their load and oh my God,
it's, uh, it's another plane.
Yeah.
It's just a normal one.
Oh, boring.
I'm not interested in this movie anymore.
Let's see him in a boat.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Con boat.
Con.
Con or I just, just con water.
Con water.
That's the sequel.
Yeah.
Did you hear about speaking of, uh, 90s action movies.
Did you hear about the sequel that was announced?
Oh, stop.
What?
Heat.
Oh, Michael Mann announced it.
So the Michael Mann's doing it and Adam fucking drivers in it because he
liked working with him so much in that Ferrari movie that's coming out.
Uh-huh.
That movie looks great.
I mean, I'm just pumped for a Michael Mann movie.
That guy, how old is he now?
He's like in his eighties almost, right?
Probably.
We just came up on our last episode.
I feel like too, because I was talking about watching collateral.
Ah, yes.
Another very wiggie movie.
Right.
That's that's that's a wig, right?
Or was it probably Tom Cruise?
Tom Cruise.
Yeah.
Probably.
Yeah.
Oh man.
I'll have to watch that again.
It feels like it.
Yeah.
It just feels so unnatural for him to see.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's like died, but yeah, it's probably just a wig.
It's, it's so weird to me that there are people in mobile Alabama that are so
anti.
Yeah.
They're like military.
It's just, it's, I don't know.
They're like, this is like reasons like it's for people like you that we lost in
Vietnam.
There's no, how old is he?
When was it?
Vietnam was in what the 70?
I'm like, I those guys were the same age as Nick Cage.
Like what are they, what are they doing with their lives?
It would have been, I don't know, fucking 16 in Vietnam.
There's no way.
Yeah.
But nonetheless, they just, they probably just think he's like dishonorably discharged
or something.
That is given the movie way more credit than it's due because there's no, like his
light, his lady.
That's what it's all about is they love his, you know, I take a beating to have my
life to have a piece of that woman.
Real foreshadowing.
Am I right?
Yeah.
I mean, those, those arms are deadly weapons.
They should have known.
So I forgot that the, for some reason, I thought that he was going to like punch
him on the ground or something till he died.
But I didn't realize that it was going to be a slow motion, like palm upper cut.
Oh yeah.
He just like sent his nose into his brain.
I didn't realize that you could do that.
There was, I liked how there was a reaction from the other guys are like, fuck.
Okay.
Shit.
He did the nose punch.
He's totally dead.
We got to get out of here.
He's fucking dead.
Yeah.
Oh man.
And then what a terrible.
Wielkers.
You would assume that, you know, as a guy, service that he would have been assigned
like some jagged guy.
I don't know.
Cause jags like solely for in military stuff, but like be assigned a lawyer that
wasn't such a, such a lame ass.
God, that guy was like, you're so lawyer.
He's like, you're guilty.
Just, just give up.
I got to have the trial.
Dude, you're not going to win this because I'm awful at my job.
So I'm letting me know.
I wish they even played that even more.
Like he had a little flask and he's like, yeah, he's just like,
he's loose and everything.
He's just like, yeah, I don't know, man.
Like there's no chance here, but, uh, but good luck.
And I'll see you on the other side.
I'll be right for you.
So crazy.
There was multiple things that we're talking about or that just don't make
sense, but it's, it's fine.
It's fine.
Cause it's getting us to point A from point A to point B very quickly.
Yeah.
If you don't think about it, it's just like, well, we need him to be here.
So let's, how do we get there?
And it's, you know, I was a righteous kill.
It was a righteous kill.
I mean, who would, I think most guys would, you know,
aside from having to go to jail for so long, would love to be their arms
to be considered.
And then when you see him in that ting, Todd, you're like,
we get it.
Those are registered weapons right there.
Those are killing machines.
It's just, it's funny how they, yeah, they, like they just make it so,
so straightforward of like, there's bad dudes.
They hate the best things.
They hate this guy that's in the military.
They're jealous of the pretty woman and all that he has.
And it's like, so you as an audience is just like, Oh, I hate those guys.
I want them to go away.
And it's like, Oh no, then he's in trouble.
It's like, Oh, I like him.
Why is he in trouble?
And then you just need the shittiest lawyer to get him to jail.
And it's just, all these things are just set up and it's such a,
such a straightforward, basic way.
But this is only within the first like 10 minutes of the movie.
I feel like all this is happening.
And then he gets sent to jail.
And then I think this is when the title card goes,
what?
Conner.
Yeah.
We're like, oh, the music in this movie, in this movie is fantastic.
Once we get to it, I shared the music for the Carson city is the
title of the song from the soundtrack.
But yeah, this movie, meanwhile, like, like we were saying is music.
It looks like a music video.
We're moving super quick.
There's this underlying like ripping guitar throughout all of this stuff,
even the heavy stuff where he gets sent to jail, which.
Yeah, man, the jail he got sent to is comic like legitimately comical.
Because there is a shot of the jail that looks like it's from,
you know, almost like Tim Burton's Batman, where things just in the jail
are on fire.
Like papers and just shit all over the place.
And they just really just show like one hallway.
They show the like his bunk and him writing, do you like his to his
daughter, dear daughter.
It has been this long and I still miss you.
Please keep sending those pink pink snowballs because I've become very
popular.
Oh, it looks like there's another race riot.
Well, don't you worry a little head.
I'm going to bring you home, buddy, and maybe a pack of smokes from my
diabetic friend.
I baby.
Oh, perfect name for a person with a exaggerated Southern accent to keep
saying over and over again.
You know, I feel like they reverse engineered baby.
Oh, to be like, what is, yeah, what is something that would almost like a
baby?
Oh, sounds like the trigger word you would Nicholas Cage would need to
say in order to get into his.
And it's how a bit of an accent.
So like, you know, yeah, let's just make the character this so he can
just keep saying it.
So yeah, you can stay in it.
I thought I feel like he, he couldn't even raise his voice too high.
I don't know if that was the accent thing or if that was just his
character, but he was just like, I can only talk in this dulcet tone.
I can't get any higher because I'm kind of doing a little bit of an
Elvis thing.
And I watched a lot of Elvis video.
I know it was just even when he had like defend himself against
sign, sign, and aura and Cyrus and you know, like, Hey man, this is your
barbecue. And it was like, it was like, Oh, he almost like raised his
voice a little bit.
I wasn't sure if it was a character thing or if like, he just couldn't
yell that accent.
I feel like he couldn't yell.
That's such a probably not.
Once I saw yelling, I can't do it anymore.
That's I didn't even think about that.
But totally.
Yeah.
He's just a little bit bigger.
The funny thing is it makes it.
It makes him cool because there is so many crazy stressful situations
and he doesn't emote.
Exit like loudly.
He just always kind of like,
cool calm and the pressure moves through it, you know, with a slow draw
and and it makes him cool.
You know what?
It's not a bug.
It's over.
He's just like, can we just not like, can we just.
Can we not take over this place so I can just go and see my diet?
And then like, he does want to stick up for justice and what's
right, but his voice is just being like, it's okay, baby.
Yeah.
And it's a very much save the cat situation where even though he
kills a person in the beginning, save the save the insulin, save
the insulin.
Yes.
In this situation.
But yeah, it's just there's he is such a so excited.
So excited about going to see his daughter.
You know, he's telling all of the guards as he's getting transferred
to go onto this, onto this airplane in which we as as an audience
get told about, yeah, jailbird and what's happening on jailbird.
There's a name for it.
There's a logo.
There's a lot of it.
It's so funny.
We talked about an Armageddon and it's just like they had the
spaceship where they're going off to the asteroid to blow it up and
all that shit and on the spaceship of all these like cool fucking
logos and there's names for the spaceship and that just makes me crack
up so much.
It was like, we got these fucking graphic artists.
Like let's get them to make something for the set design to like
really plus it up.
But we're not just going to have like a rickety old plant like let's
let's throw something on the side there to to add to it.
I don't know.
It's just it's a character really.
Yeah.
It is a character on the movie.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I want to hear Simon West talk about how, you know, it realistically
that would have been transferred on a different airplane like an
updated airplane.
But I think to this, a point that he made about the plane and like his
approach to the plane also is something that was applied to a
lot of facets of the movie that continue to why like our have made
this movie continue to be great because instead of picking an
even more like of that present time plane, they picked an older
plane because in often the choices that Simon would make when it
came to how he wanted to like what he would have people wearing
what was in the scene, be it like, you know, whatever, like tools,
objects, what have you is trying to make it kind of timeless and
not have too much of a like a specificity of exactly it was
made so that everything.
Real meal junkyard and then land in the most modern bright city
you could think of.
It's sort of sort of not modern.
Maybe not modern.
Yeah.
That's weird.
But like, I don't know.
Weirdly.
Yeah.
Vegas kind of has this dated and time especially back then because
I really Vegas doesn't start getting a lot of that modern stuff.
I feel like until the 2000s when you start getting.
Yeah, that was the best choice of words.
Yeah.
No, no, it's fine.
I mean, it's like a plane full of cons like our land in Vegas.
Like, yeah, I know.
Like you kind of want them to jump out and start gambling and
gambling.
Yeah.
What's he was show me.
Luckily does.
Luckily.
Oh, he's the one you want.
Don't want out there.
I know it's weird how they make you like kind of that's a fun
moment at the end.
I just yeah.
Now I'm just realizing because he's not a very fun character.
No.
He's a very not fun guy.
He's not a fun one.
You know, it's my daughter's birthday today.
Do your mind.
So where are we?
Yeah, I want to see Nickage go straight into snake.
I like I want to know like the Vegas trilogy just to like
somehow be in the same world.
Yeah.
Viva Los Nicolas.
He's got a hundred and then he's got to leave there.
There's there's a lot going.
There's a lot he's got to do there.
I wonder if he has a home there.
I would feel like he does.
It's like one of those places he's got a he's got a place.
He's got a house there.
What?
John Q.
So I explain.
Man, I love a good somebody.
It's giving you a rundown of all the characters.
Here's all of you know their names.
May I have cool names and backstories and it's like just
just perfect movie for that because it's there's times where
it definitely doesn't work in movies.
Like there's a situation very similar to that in Suicide Squad,
the Jared Leto trashy one with the movie in that situation has
like had not time has had no time to breathe and they
immediately do that at the very beginning of the movie and have
like some different music scene for each character.
This one they're like they're just like real pieces of shit
and Suicide Squad they're like.
Well, we're like, oh, won't get food again.
It just like shows like some like fucking piece of shit like
villain.
It's like, no, we should not.
And that's, you know, can't even catch it myself.
You know, be like, oh, stupid.
She's gambling at the end.
But in this one, it's like, no, they're all pieces of shit.
And like they're like playing like some fuck like grungy music
and being like, no, these guys are bad dudes.
And one of my oh, no, I was gonna say one of my favorites.
But that he comes in the second wave.
He is a swamp thing.
I love him.
Yeah.
I love something.
I'm not an actor to that actor.
Oh, he's the best man.
I yeah.
So the breakdown of all of this.
God, we got a very like a young Dave Schruppel.
I can't remember if this this has to be.
Is this before after half baked?
I wonder it's got it.
Oh, it's before.
It's before.
Oh, my God.
That's my guess.
I'm gonna I'll pull up his career.
I'm trying to think because I mean, some of his earlier stuff.
I remember him on like 90 professor.
I'm trying to think of his book is probably out before 90
professor as well.
Oh, half baked 98.
Oh, this is before this is 97.
Right.
Yeah.
Wow.
Close.
Okay.
Very close.
Clues.
Yeah.
Clues.
And he provides so much comedy to this that is.
Oh, man.
It's is 93.
Wow.
That's that's very baby.
Oh, and then nutty professor is 96.
Oh, professor was before this.
Interesting.
I remember.
I mean, I remember seeing that movie as a young lad.
Blue streak 99 love that one too.
He's a lover, brother 2002.
And a cover brother.
He's so funny.
And yeah, I wonder if that's probably funny in this movie.
What am I taking Dave Spill's funny guy?
He's a highlight of a lot of those movies that I were talking
about even as like someone that you really fucking hate kind
of like nutty professor.
He's like really bully like bullying the audience.
Like, I don't know.
It's and bullying poor Eddie.
Eddie Murphy.
Clem.
Yeah.
clumpified, but he gets his come up instead of fun way from buddy live.
I didn't see what I mean. So long. I still remember so much about it.
Oh my God. Yeah. You're
he throws him into the piano. Like yeah, but
Chappelle does a good job at being annoying and embracing.
I don't know if just annoying is maybe a simplified way of putting that,
but like he's okay. And all these, a lot of these actors for that matter
are okayed not being like perfect and glossy,
you know, good, you know, good looking sort of well, well to do.
I mean, obviously they're they're only on the
director. They're old.
But I just think like fast and furious.
I'm like a lot of movies where everything just everybody just looks so fucking cool.
Exactly. Like, yeah, these guys look like real pieces.
It's comical now at this point, what the fast movies have done
where in every scene know everybody is just so incredibly well put together,
even though they're like, you know, like the villains and everything too.
Oh yeah. Every it's just such modern, like apparently style, like stylized clothing.
And yeah, just it really flattens the movie out because no one has
so much character that we're talking about that these people bring where.
Yeah, they have no problem looking like part of, you know,
I don't know, in in the actual movie they're they're not like above the movie.
They're like in the weeds of the movie.
And it just it's nice because it just helps suck you in because that's where they are
and you're meeting them where they are.
Yeah. And everyone has a has a moment, I'd say everyone gets their moment.
I say, oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Everybody does.
And if Dave Chappelle wasn't in the movie, though, they would not be as good.
There is something that stuck out to me is when, you know,
the convicts take over the plane, there's this shootout that.
Convict.
Sorry.
Convict.
Yeah.
I was.
God, God.
Love you right now.
Yeah.
What was I going to say?
Yeah.
So the scene where the convicts have taken over the plane and they need to get ready
for the Carson City, which we.
Yeah, we can play this sound if you can.
If you've got that QW in a sec.
But like how he how Dave Chappelle like talks to Cyrus about getting the names
like finding out where these people are, identifying them, working through who
needs to get off the plane.
All of that stuff rips.
It makes this movie awesome.
Like it's so kind of procedural.
Like they they need to get ready for this.
Oh, it's awesome.
Awesome.
I loved and I love the way that Dave Chappelle is like, I don't know Cyrus,
but I'm going to find out and then he like goes off and does this thing.
It just there's.
It you can feel that there is a reason why this plan is being enacted is
because there have been a lot of things in the in who is on this plane have
been thought out and they all are bringing some type of like purpose to
you know, the heists are not nice, but like the escape or whatever.
And it's just so fucking thrilling.
And I also want to tension with them and then also with John Q.
Sack and Cole as well.
Like how there's tension all around like everyone's kind of on edge.
Oh, for sure.
Oh my God.
Yeah, just so much like on one and like a lot of ego.
Unprovoked.
Yeah.
The Cole Meany stuff is so funny because John Q.
Sack is like starts the relationship trying to be nice and amicable
and Cole Meany just from the get-go is what are you wearing?
Sandals.
Yeah, it's hippie.
It's cause of a cycle and sandals somewhere.
Whatever you say.
And then and he's going over like the convicts on there and then John Q.
Sack makes kind of like a leftist remark about how, you know, all like the system
being like slightly like empathetic just a little bit.
Lately empathetic saying the system is contributed to these people being in here
and it isn't solely just, you know, they're yeah, there's the society at large
plays a role as to why these people are the way that they are.
And Cole Meany is just like, what are you talking about?
Boy, you know, what a, yeah, sissy for thinking that it's so yeah.
And he's anything like overtly that way, like for a movie full of stereotypes,
like they don't really drive that home too much with John Q.
Sack of him being some big hippie, dippy, like sort of do like they really zoom
in on the sandals with with socks or they're like some sorts or some shit.
But like that's like the closest thing.
And but I mean, he takes the fast car, he drives it, he does some badass stuff.
Like and then hit him meeting up with Nick Cage at the end and getting shit done
and together is such a fucking dope way to finally see those two on screen
together because like his discovery of finding out that there's someone on
board that could help him and they're back and forth leading up to them
seeing each other is a lot of fun.
And it makes me think about, uh, yeah, other movies that I feel like they
were in another movie together, but I think they were antagonist, protagonist.
I think it was like that frozen ground movie or whatever.
I think I think it's called I think, uh, but I think they were against each other.
Anyways, they come up around the same time.
John Q. Sack less action movies, maybe so.
But they are like their careers are parallel and an interesting way.
Q. Sack is probably a little younger is my guess, but, um, yeah, maybe,
but probably not by a lot.
And I mean, both.
Yeah, I don't know.
We're going into this as leading men, right?
They had both of them had served in that position before.
So yeah, I think them being the two that are working together is.
If anything, yeah, you just, you kind of wish that there were actual one more
scenes with them together.
Could you switch their roles?
I don't think so.
I don't, I really don't.
Not the way this movie is made.
Yeah, I can picture John Q. Sack and like inhabiting Cameron Poe in the full of
his.
Oh, I actually can imagine that.
I just can't imagine.
Nicholas Cage is the.
That's so funny.
Oh my God.
I can picture me.
He's a chameleon.
Come on.
You can do anything.
Just feel like in the, if he was paired up with Cole Meany, it's like both of them
would just like, I don't know, always be exploding on each other.
And that would just be like, yeah, you'd cut to them and they're both screaming
at each other, which is.
No, you just get, that's where you would get the stereotypical lefty, like hippie,
hippie, stuff.
Nick K.
She's like, oh, I'm really going to go all the way with this idea of like making
this guy this, this sort of, uh, this sort of way.
Or what if he's a vampire?
I don't know.
I'm a vampire.
Um, yeah.
So Carson City.
Yeah.
I was just looking, I was looking over any, any of my notes leading up to this
point.
I mean, yeah, they, they, the buildup to Si, Si the Vi, um, is a huge fucking deal
that like his whole rap sheet and everything.
He's like 39 years old.
He spent 25 of those years in prison, which the math there must is just crazy of
like.
Great.
In and out a lot or started at a very young age and was just there for a very
long time.
I don't know.
He's because the amount of murders and deaths.
Also that all the comments that he's killed more people than cancer is insane.
Oh yeah.
What?
Huh?
That's impossible.
Yeah.
Like what is his deal?
I'm sure John Nacovich is asking the same question.
It's like, so what exactly have I done?
Tell me.
Right.
Um, lady is a, what was it?
Was it lady?
Lady is a dog in a Walt Disney movie.
Oh yeah.
Some calls or some calls or lady.
Um, my wife and I will have our margaritas on the yacht.
I wrote that down to what a crazy thing to have as your sentence to practice
Spanish and when are you going to have our margaritas on the yacht?
I've never said that in English before.
Why would I want to learn a sentence in Spanish for something I've never said in my native
tongue?
Absolutely.
I never said those words.
I mean, I might have asked where the fucking.
It's going to be a lot of my wife and I will have our margaritas on the yacht.
Yeah, we got to start saying that.
That's so funny.
I'm glad you brought that up because yeah, we skipped over that and I just him learning
Spanish and jail, which he never uses, right?
No, I'm just picturing him saying spanish.
Yeah.
Saying spanish speaking spanish.
There is.
There's some Spanish speaking where Cyrus the virus speaks to Johnny Bente Tracer.
What is it?
And yeah, yeah.
Well, Danny Trio of Sands Mustache.
Uh-huh.
And Malkovich says you're somewhere between the cockroach and the white stuff at the corner
of your mouth or whatever that.
The kind of shit that he comes up with is just twisted.
It's so twisted.
The next wings you see will be the flies over your rotting corpse.
It's line delivery.
Yeah.
So much annunciation.
It's a little much like a neck shard.
Yeah, very lit gal.
Absolutely.
And as our resident lith gal expert, you would do my best.
I do my best.
I still got a watch Dexter.
I feel like if I'm on a site, let's go according to large or or watch.
Fucking what is it?
Old man.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll do that with the bridges and let's go.
Yeah, I'll do that.
But I'm glad you brought up the thing about, uh,
John Malkovich talking to Johnny Ben Thedrace because of what that it sits a rule in place
that the convicts aren't have like a moral code.
And I think that corresponds a lot of, um,
they all have their way of doing things.
Right. It's, yeah, there's, um, there's an order to this madness, which, um, yeah,
I don't know.
I just, I picked up on that and tuned into that this time because yeah, like it.
Sets in motion.
Like whenever there is things that are happening between the convicts, there are,
there's a certain like ethics that they operate by, which in turn makes them respond.
Cause everybody responds to things cause they're not, you know, they're all convicts
and they're not going to just take things on the chin necessarily, but they do it in
a way where it's like, but I, I'll do this, but I won't do that.
And, um, yeah, Nick Cage is just writing that one the entire time.
And I really, I was picking that up a little bit more this time too, where his, uh,
chest moves in the midst of all that chaos of everyone having their own wants and needs
and motivations and everything and how that does kind of cloud their judgment.
Even though it's a plan that's put together by Cyrus, not everyone's purview to like
what's going on and the way that Nick Cage really takes advantage of that.
I was picking up on it.
And I really liked the escalation of how involved that he was getting and how close to that
line that he was getting on multiple times, multiple, uh, fronts and everything.
And his conversation with Bing Reims about like, Hey, like what's your deal, man?
I don't know.
You don't seem like the kind of guy that's going to be playing second fiddle and following
this dude around.
Cause, you know, he was known for other like terrorist acts and shit against, uh, you know,
like a kind of a fucked up and like extremists sort of black power movement or something.
I think so.
Something that he was involved in.
And his explanation was just like all in all due time.
Like I'm just going to play along with this for now.
And then by the time we get to Mexico, wherever they're going, uh, then that's when I'm, that's
when his plan.
Yeah.
He's like, I, my plan begins there.
Like I'm just trying to get there.
And then once I'm there, then I can do whatever the fuck I want.
But this is just doing means to an end my honky friend or whatever he says.
Um, but I love that.
And just that everyone's, yeah, everyone's got their, got their plan and Cyrus's plan
coming more and more to full view as the movie goes on too.
Cause it, cause it could have easily been more of just a impromptu like, oh, they took the
plan.
They're trying to make the best of the situation.
But finding out his jail cell and going back to that location, that was really filled this
movie out for me as well of getting that escalation of how much of a villain he really is and how
planned he does have some of this stuff, not in an overly, overly convoluted way.
I don't think it really gets there.
It never is feels convoluted.
It just feels like it doesn't, you know, maybe finding blueprints to a plane was a little
much, but it's just like, I don't know.
I love it.
Yeah.
It's like an old junker plane.
It looks like any found some fucking old shitty blueprints.
It's just that stuff added a lot to it.
I agree.
Yeah.
And I, I mean, I love a good cipher, you know, little mystery solving in the midst of the
movie where, yeah, they figure out where they're going, right?
Mm hmm.
They will switch to the black box or whatever was fun.
Mm hmm.
Oh, yeah.
And how a pro act.
Yeah.
How active Dave Chappelle is in the execution of that.
Like he isn't, he's a really quite an important character.
Like he initiates the break, like, you know, kind of the breakout or whatever, which was
really something about him coughing up that little thing.
Oh my God.
I am so crazy.
And then he's off like later when he's like trying to get back on, he's like that other
guy that got burned.
It's like, I'm not fucking helping you.
It's stuck in the landing gear.
Yeah.
All that stuff is great.
Oh man.
Yeah.
And you get off the plane a couple of times, you know, like we transfer new prisoners,
new faces.
And that's where we get carlin green.
Steve Buscemi, which really is.
As they say nowadays on social media is given Hannibal Lecter vibes.
Okay.
So hashtag Hannibal.
I mean, when you put a mask on and yeah, he's got his own little apparatus to sit on.
It's like, yeah, it was just funny that he's such a, such a tiny frail week, dude.
And I get that.
That's like the.
Yeah.
Kind of the.
Paradise.
Like the joke.
The whole thing of it.
Yeah.
I guess the same could be said for Hannibal Lecter, but.
But that is like, oh, now you're making me think of the benefit though of the are the
perfect casting that is Hannibal for that with what's his face?
Tony, old Tony Hopkins, Tony, Tony Hoppies.
Tony Hoppies is he's kind of a like a stocky ish dude.
So he kind of lights out.
He writes that line a little bit of like, yeah, he's a shorter guy, but I don't know.
He's, you know, he has a kind of a, a weight to him.
And so he is scary, but yeah, Steve Buscemi is very frail.
I read such a funny thing that during the filming of one of his scenes where he's like
actually like in on the plane and in his little cage or whatever, they like forgot about him
and he was like Steve Buscemi was stuck with the mask on.
And like tied up and everything.
He couldn't see shit because of the mask.
And yeah, he just had to just wait it out.
And then yeah, camera, everyone's out lunch and just be like, hey, where's Steve?
That day.
That realization must have been awful.
Doing a couple of things, you know, couple scenes in that, you know, at once or not at
once, like, each other back to back.
And yeah, God, yeah, just to be stuck in that, that that suit and that would be, I mean,
I saw like a video recently of like these people that were stuck on a roller coaster
upside down for like one of his parmolides or it's just like, and they're just upside
down for like a half hour to an hour or something.
I'd be like, fuck, just gives me the fucking willies.
Man, I hate that.
That sounds awful.
And the person on the microphone is like, how's everyone doing?
How's everyone doing up there?
We're doing okay.
And I was like, no.
So I was coming.
Don't worry.
And it's like, is that does that like?
Do you do something happen?
Like do you pass out if you're upside down long enough?
What happens?
Probably happens to some people.
So a lot of chest pain, all the blood rushing to your head.
Like that's that's got a I.
I'm sure you would.
I'm sure some people would pass out.
That's a torture tactic.
So yeah, severe complications are even fatal because you're just the blood is just starting
to go all to your skull and behind the eyes.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
That's a temporary lead to a temporary loss of vision and would eventually kill you.
Yeah.
Long enough.
Wow.
I went to Carnival recently.
Yeah, it was fun.
But man, those rides are intense.
They always has they always have been.
But man, going recently, I was like, fuck, like, yeah, I can't do this anymore.
I did like one or two.
And I was like, okay.
Because they're all just like, all of them are just like fucking spin the shit out of
you.
That's all.
I mean, at a carnival, it's not as much about the roller coaster.
We're just like, spin the shit out of you and UFO ride.
Yeah.
And then they have that one.
I did the one where you just get spun and then they should throw the cover over you
or whatever.
And you just in your like squish next to the person next to you.
But yeah, at a certain point, they like throw a cover over you and it's all dark.
It's just all that shit is there to like fuck with you.
I don't know.
It was it was hard.
I was like, I'm getting sick already.
Also, I was gonna say for this this movie, I watched whatever was available.
I think I did an AMC plus trial.
You did that to just fucking just to get it for free because I immediately canceled the
subscription after I got the trial.
But yeah, it's censored.
So you know something like it was spitters and critters.
Is it shitters and critters or sorry, shitters and spitters.
Oh yeah.
It's spitters and critters is what what they said.
It's so funny.
And there was a couple of those because I was going to stop almost like at the beginning.
I'm like, this could be fun because like, let's see what kind of weird shit they plug
in here and if I can notice.
But also some of those lines just don't hit as hard and that kind of sucked.
Welcome to the machine.
That was a good one.
When they seize Chappelle and the landing gear, the one guy like leaders of being rams puts
it on Nick Cage to shove him down.
But before he does, he writes a note and everything, but I think at one point they like hit his
face or like, oh, like, oh, poor guy or whatever.
And like they move him or something.
And he like his face like wences.
It's kind of like a little bit like, I don't know, they like smack him or something.
And this could see his.
It's kind of like a little wencing thing.
And it just cracked me up this time.
And that's after watching this movie, however, like 10 times and you just kind of like start
to really hone hone in on stuff on the background.
Yeah.
And then the Manson family look like the Parcher family.
There's just like too many, too many lines.
There's I was like writing line trying to keep up.
And I was like, there's just there's just too many.
Oh yeah.
What's wrong with him?
My first thought would be a lot.
Commercial break and they had the commercial break fade out on the AMC thing to so you
can see where they they would fade to commercial.
It was kind of fun to see it like a man because that's how I imagine this movie to watch on
like TNT or some shit.
So awesome.
But there's only two men I trust.
One of them is me and the other is not you.
So much it's most dumb, redundant stuff that like it's like supposed to sound cool, but
it's also like, okay, pretty silly.
Put bunny back in the box.
We kind of just talked about that a little bit because that was right around where the
Dave Chappelle stuff, right?
I think that's when no, that's the second time they go into the because that's when
the other dude starts to suspect him.
And this time around, I also was thinking I'm like, I get that this isn't a front to
their plan, but also this guy has taken a very special interest in Nick Cage.
Like he really goes to great lengths to like find out about Nick Cage.
And I guess, you know, they set it up well because he's like, Hey, I was in fucking C
block or whatever.
Like, I don't remember seeing you there.
Uh-huh, right, yes, and starts to, yeah, because Nick Cage has put a front that he is staying
on the, he has told everybody that he's actually going to continue to be in jail for a while,
but he's not.
He's going home to his baby girls.
So that lie is getting slowly exposed, which is, yeah, you're right.
Happens predominantly between Carson and Vegas, right?
Or something.
Yeah.
And they do the one stop at the junkyard.
Um, and that junkyard is so weird to me because there's no one there, but then there's that
girl there.
Such a movie.
And then they're all that old.
It's like the only two people in that whole area were a little girl and an older guy.
The little girl.
And I just like, who lives in this town?
What kind of town is this?
Why is this girl here?
Yeah, it just really makes you think that that girl is a figment of Garland Green's
imagination because it's just so real.
Now there's no one else around.
Like how is Garland able to just just gotta be a ghost?
It really feels like it.
Cause yeah, there's just no one in that town that it's like some fifties like nuclear test
site that this little girl exactly.
So my god was like a band and strip.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
The other guy that like, uh, will use like flying his other, his own plane or over and
gets like, uh, that guy's in a shit ton of commercials.
I don't know what his actor's name is, but he's in so many commercials and it's fun
seeing like those kinds of people are like, Oh, it's, uh, guys, like the bald guy in 30
Rock.
That's him.
That was like in the cave man commercials and Geico and so he's in a bunch of commercials.
It's like that must be an interesting career too.
Just being a very professional commercial actor and occasionally getting a movie role
and must be interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
I feel like that that's happened currently with the AT&T girl where I feel like she is
in a couple of movies recently.
I haven't seen them because I think they're just like,
Elena, Van Trevara, where all is within.
I think that movie looked pretty good.
It's got that one guy that's in, uh, peers and dough boys.
This he's in the tomorrow war.
The guy Sam Richardson is that?
Oh, Sam Richardson's from, yeah, from like Detroiters and yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
He's, uh, he's so fucking funny.
Yeah, he's good.
That scene with the plane trying to escape, but getting there, not going very far.
The plane crash landing, all of the stuff in that airport then ends up being this.
I don't know about you, but don't you love a scene where they set up this little diet
like diorama out of stuff?
So silly.
Love it.
Oh, like, okay.
So here's where this is and this can or whatever.
What's that?
That's a rock.
Oh.
I love that shit.
The other thing I thought was so weird and funny was like, they actually have them like
towing the plane and then a dude with a whip, like fucking like whipping.
The guy is so pulling it.
Was it the guy that's like, was it the guy that's in jail for being too gay?
Was that the guy that was whipped?
No, I forget who was doing the whipping.
I don't know, it was just such like an image like, like let's just have this image of them
towing this, this plane.
It'll just look cool.
I don't know.
It just doesn't.
Are you pull, pull a fucking plane through sand or whatever they were doing?
Have you lost your mind according to last psyche valve?
Yes.
So many.
And this is the, you know, kind of the conclusion really of the Carson city.
No, not Carson city.
The abandoned airport thing was the sigh.
Oh, man.
Throw in a cigarette on because you see the guy standing behind him with the cigarette.
You know, it's going to be used and he chucks it and all that backstabbing, I think was
so, I don't know, I just something that I never really paid as much attention to watching
this movie.
And I guess, yeah, this, this with the whole like, oh, who's fronting this whole operation?
And it's just like drug lord mob boss guy from, I don't know, it's like, I forget the
guy's name.
Bolivia Columbia or something like that.
Yeah.
And then he double crosses them and gets caught trying to leave him that other plane.
And there's a, yeah, there's, there's some layers.
There's some fun, you know, some.
The pace is so hot, but then like when they land, when they land and everything, there
are like the comedic moments are played for comedy, you know, with Dave Chappelle flirting
with, you know, the random woman that's, oh, I guess they're, they're about to take off
in that, in that tour plane, but he's like, hey, you have the prettiest eyes I've seen
in like five to 10 or something like he says something like that.
I thought that was just a funny, funny line.
And shit like that is just like that when it does breathe and cut between that and like
the John Q's act stuff, it never gets to be like boring or me like, you know, looking
away or anything like that.
And when it's about to, that's like really when they start to, you know, fucking get
to Vegas and, and it really pops off and a fun.
Action, like action scene after action scene that just escalates and escalates where you
are in the air and then now you're on the ground in this just bonkers, bonkers set
of peace.
Is there anything else that I'm missing before we're in Vegas?
I know that's pretty much it.
I, isn't it so funny that they land in, they land on the strip in Vegas when Vegas is
in a fucking desert where you could like anywhere else?
Like, why have all places would you land in Vegas?
Like a land in only safe spot is this.
We've got to land on asphalt.
That looks like a lot.
It's the opposite.
James is the only unsafe spot everywhere else is fine.
I'm like, what the hell?
It's one thing while landing there where he's, he should be contemplating his own mortality.
He's like, it's beautiful.
Yeah, MC Gay, that guy, yeah, he's just got a wild look on his face all the time.
He's just, and he's down for whatever.
Oh, yeah.
I love that character.
Swamp things fun.
Yeah, they land, they fucking launch out.
They get in a fucking fire truck like there's it just so much goes on.
And it's like, like it reminds me of like a boy, a boy playing with his toys really is
what.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The fire truck is going to the total.
The ladder is going around.
Shoot water and fucking.
And then this is, I mean, I'm kind of barreling through that, but the end of a Psy.
Riss and how we say cyan are to him reminds me of how you've described certain deaths
in films or whatever as being super dead.
He is super dead.
He dies like five times.
Five times.
Like there's zero question whether or not he's dead.
Like he goes through that, like he's locked onto the ladder, gets raised above and in
his crucifying on top of a fire truck through a bridge, somehow breaks through the handcuffs
and launches through that.
And then the music changes.
The music actually like does a record scratch and goes, and then does a burn and then see
this fucking hydraulic press like going and he just gets fucking moved slowly into it.
So he can really just savor it, savor it all in and you get really POV of the hydraulic
press going directly into his, his face.
It's very memorable.
And so you think it is a little too much at the end here is a little like you're just
exhausted by that point.
Oh my God, I'm exhausted.
Yeah, no, but it's a lot of this stuff.
Like cause there's a lot of time spent on the like them chasing in the cars with the
fire truck and shit.
Yeah.
That I'm a little bit like, you know, cause it could have been a situation where I don't
know, I feel like you crash the plane and you don't necessarily need all the car stuff.
Maybe it's like kind of like a heat situation where you like run through a little bit and
then you get to like a back area.
Maybe if you know, it's to that effect, it's just like a lot of like, you know, barreling
around on a car where I'm like, yeah, I mean, by the steel mills that are just sitting in
the middle of the street.
Right.
Exactly.
It's one of those old started the steel mill you ended in a steel.
I don't know what this place is.
I'm booking it with steel mills.
I'm Brock Heimer.
Um, yeah.
Sweet, sweet home, Alabama.
Oh, that's earlier.
Making move the bunny gets us earlier too.
Yeah.
You know, I'm going to show you God does exist.
We even forgot about that.
That scene that that part is possibly one of the best parts of the movie where he just
stands up chunks of bullet in the arm and then just goes to work is one of the best
cinematic moments in history.
Got the whole world in his hands is, is Bisham is just singing as they're crashing is is
pretty insane.
There's a lot of nice cars that Brock Heimer destroys.
I put put in my nose.
He just likes destroying nice cars.
I don't know.
Police drop a donut during the action scene.
Just like, I know it's just like silly stuff, silly stuff.
And that's, that's pretty much all my notes and is just super dead.
Yeah.
I draw.
Yeah.
Like you were saying before we started recording and yeah, I mean, my notes honestly stopped
way before this, but like, yeah, once you get into the plane crashing into Vegas, it's
just, you know, there's not any new plot or character, you know, stuff.
It's just pay dirt all the way to the end of just, yeah, cheeses and run around and
people dying and explosions and all that.
I thought it was really fun that the so we had watched a little bit before this about
the models and how they did the like plane crash.
Oh, so cool.
But the when the plane actually whole goes into the casino, that was a real thing because
he were demoing the Sands casino.
Yes.
I'm too young to know what that was about.
Well, I was actually, thank you for bringing this up because and I saw my father recently
and I was able to talk to him a little bit about it and he said it wasn't the same.
I thought it was the Sands as well.
I don't know.
He said it.
I forget what he said it was because him and my mom were actually at Las Vegas when they
were filming this fucking movie.
Oh my God.
That's so cool.
I remember like even when I would watch parts of it or whatever growing up and I didn't see
the whole thing.
My I would always know of this movie as the one that my parents had like been there for
some of the filming of and there would always be like, yeah, they were like, had this big
plane set up and were knocking like destroying this.
I don't know if they were there for like the destruction of the casino or whatever, but
they said they were, they would look out their window and just kind of watch it at the night
and they just kind of like look out and be able to see it from their hotel.
So, oh my God, how cool.
Thank you for, yeah, I was trying to remember and I tried to ask him a few more questions,
but I don't know if he, yeah, it just seemed like they were able to see, see part of like
the big, yeah, sure.
You know, it's cool.
Oh my God, yeah, what a great little anecdote because yeah, I mean, what a it's kind of
reminded me knowing that fact of, yeah, like what is it, Spectre and James Bond of like
a movie taking advantage of the destruction of a memory like a building.
Yeah.
Like a transformation happening in an area and taking advantage of it.
I feel like there's like Oceans 13 might have done that as well with the one of the casinos
and like even like a.
Oh, sure.
Dark Knight.
That hospital building.
I don't know what the deal is with that, but it's that seemed like something that they
didn't build to destroy.
And so I'm just like these like defunct kind of kind of buildings that they kind of just
use for for that stuff is has such an effect on just seeing a fucking building coming down.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So just again, it's just another check or another addition that this movie has where
it's like, I love these things in movies and this asset, you know, like we've talked about
with the whole litany of things of the, you know, things that characters do in the movie
situations in the movie, all of that.
This movie, God, it just has it all.
It nails it.
And as far as an action movie is concerned and something that I would feel confident
if you're sitting there with a group of people and they want to watch an action movie, I
don't know, I would feel pretty confident with this one pleasing a good variety of people,
even the people that don't necessarily like it.
Their criticisms will be the same reason, the same things that the people who do love
it, like those will be the reasons that people love it.
It's a big dumb action movie.
And if that's not your thing, then you're not.
Yeah, you're not going to like this movie, but the people who do love it is like, oh,
it's a big dumb action movie.
It's great.
Oh, yeah.
It's the most big dumb, most movie thing you can, you can lay your eyes on and it's like
these, these aren't real people.
This is all a facade and it's a blast.
And you just get to like, I don't know, curtains up and you go on the ride and you're just
very, very aware that you're watching a movie the whole time, but in the best way possible.
I don't know.
But I want to get into some of these reviews going to take a little after a break and we'll
be right back to check them out.
All right, sounds good.
Okay, we're fucking back.
We're back.
Let's check out some critic reviews.
These people didn't like it.
58% score by the critics on rotten tomatoes.
The thing that didn't exist when this movie came out, which is always fun to try to find
movies that fit that bill.
And I think, you know, it's, it's some of the numbers that might even be misleading
as to people actually felt at the time.
It's something that did not exist.
But James Brardinelli from Real Views gave it a two out of four.
He says, sifting through this, sitting through this movie is like watching a dog running
in circles chasing its tail.
The amusement factor dies quickly as the situation becomes repetitive.
Mark Savlov, Austin Chronicle, two out of five.
If you're looking to kill a couple of hours, there are worse fates awaiting you out there.
Out there.
Out there in the world.
Out there.
With all of the stuff that's going on in the world.
There are worse things than this from David Sterrett from Christian Science Monitor gave
it a one out of four.
The movie sends two mean spirited messages.
One is that bad criminals are no better than animals and should be treated accordingly.
The other is that hatred mayhem and destruction are rip roaring ingredients for summer entertainment.
Yeah.
Rip roaring.
That's the closest thing they can get to cussing over there.
Christian Science Monitor.
He said rip roaring.
From Mixed LaSalle, San Francisco Chronicle.
I kept thinking that if their budget were two out of four, I kept thinking that if their
budget were cut in half, they would have made a better picture.
If the special effects department were put on a much stricter budget, the show might have
had to develop the characters beyond caricature.
That's not necessarily true.
I'm not sure at all.
I don't think the fact like I don't think you can take away money from the special effects
is going to make the characters different.
I think that was already said.
Some of that stuff, maybe not according to John Malkovich, but you know, I'll do one more
from Stinky side of Critic Town.
You from James Sanford from the Kalamazoo Gazette.
That sounds fun.
Actually, I'm going to do one more after this from Peter Chavis, but James Sanford says
cast actors with a bit of box office cloud hire directors smart enough to shoot each explosion
so it can be shown multiple times from different angles and find a script with all the depth
and complexities of a coloring book and action snarky mix snarkerson snarky.
This was a I'll do the there was a I should just read the whole thing from Peter Chavis,
but this is one of his blurbs is they're the worst of the worst.
So is the movie.
And then his other one here, Conair has all the signs of a hit.
That's depressing.
Wow, like taking down the biz, taking down audience and people making the movie combined
being like the whole environment of movie making depresses him.
Wow.
The fact that it's successful is a bummer to him.
He's sad that this is existential crisis.
I'm not with it.
I don't get it.
These things that people like, I don't.
I don't know, man.
Let's check out what the audience does enjoy about this movie with their more positive
score of a 75.
Very solid, very solid 75.
But it is a very vocal positive.
I don't know if you go to Amazon, look at the reviews there.
There's 9,290.
And the average goes to 4.7 out of five.
Eighty four percent of those reviews are five stars.
That's a lot of people that are showing a lot of vociferous love for this for this movie.
240 ratings on Google reviews.
Average of four and a half.
The majority are five stars.
So people that love this movie like really fucking love it.
And yeah, one of those people is Jamie J. Justice gave it a five starred review title.
Just put the bunny in the box and watch it.
They say while my husband despises this movie, I've watched it three times in the past month
between Nick Cage's horrendous southern accent.
I'm from Tennessee.
It's offensive.
And the thin storyline at best, the plot and acting leave a bit to be desired.
But what it lacks in actual cinematic cred, it makes up for in lots of explosions.
Don't overthink it.
If you start thinking you wonder why a plane full of the country's craziest criminals isn't
more secure and it's all downhill from there.
But the upswing of this movie is some humorous lines, a weird scene with Steve Buscemi in
an abandoned swimming pool.
Plus Nick Cage eventually ends up in a dirty white tank top, essential for any action movie.
And he is ripped so there's a payoff at the end for anyone looking to ogle some sweaty
Nicholas C.
This movie has what any action movie should.
A lot of vehicles.
There's a vintage car, helicopters, motorcycles, fire trucks and of course an aircraft.
Paired with a lot of ridiculously awesome explosions and topped with a love story to
end all love stories.
Wow.
A dude just wants to get to Alabama to see his wife and child after being wrongly imprisoned
and sent home via inmate death plane.
Check out a bit and check out this movie and put the bunny back in the box.
From Jamie J Justice.
From do another one from a goth gone gray five stars titled the 90s look like this honest.
The castle on this classic makes it worth watching John Cusack and Nicholas Cage versus
a bunch of ripped cons like Danny Trio with the addition of the cunning John Malkovich
and the ever talented and completely unsettling here is Steve Buscemi.
Explosions.
Check.
Do be a spot that should never ever happen.
I love a review of the checklist.
Check.
Ridiculously bad accent by Cage.
Check.
Yeah.
Check.
Drawed out into multiple syllables.
It's entirely chock full of 90s ridiculousness and totally worth an evening with popcorn and
somewhere between enjoying and mocking insanity.
Oh, that's the thing you kind of got to be in on.
There's a little joke you got to be in on.
I think I think I've gone gray has got it going on.
We'll do one more from Samuel G. Five stars titled the best movie of all time.
Yeah, right.
Uh huh.
I wonder what this guy thinks of this movie.
One cannot simply write a review of Conair.
Who is worthy to place value upon that which is priceless?
Would one dare to critique Beethoven's fifth or Monet's lilies?
Uh huh, right.
The art itself speaks more to the human condition than could I in a hundred years.
Oh, for in the consuming of the art, one learns more about themselves than the art itself.
This is the most culture review I've ever heard.
Like all great pieces of work, excluding my ex-wife.
Conair stands far above the rest of cinema.
Wow.
Holy.
Not needing the affirmation from his wife in there.
Not needing the affirmation from me nor another of higher repute.
In viewing this piece, one steps into a realm of higher humanity, a euphoric out of body
experience that transcends time and space.
This is insane.
To watch is to truly live.
Enjoy and live.
Wow.
Standing out.
I'm going to clap for myself.
I'm clapping for Samuel G.
Samuel G.
Thank you, Samuel G.
That was the best reviews I've ever read in my life, especially on the show and the little
deserving to this movie.
So classy and then to just drop like a fucking shameless ex-wife bit in the middle of it.
I'm blown away.
Complex.
A real roller coaster.
Samuel G. has got a lot going on.
Going on.
He's by himself watching Conair.
Right in the middle of here.
Just not just watching it, but really ex-wife catching some shade.
You know, you know how it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I don't know.
I think we even started with, you know, but we kind of get the polarizing nature of it.
The Peter Travers line, I think, really hits me more than anything about like it's, it's,
it is about the movie, but also much bigger than that where he's, he's taking issue with
the fact that these kind of movies are popular and he's worried about the cultural culture
of cinema and some sort of, I don't know, more intellectual sort of sort of way that
is unnecessary when you're viewing a movie like, like this and there should always be
movies like this and maybe Fast and Furious is a version of it now.
That's, that's popular, but big dumb action movies should always exist.
And a lot of them are relegated to much smaller budgets.
I'd say now and there are a lot of the geezer-pleaser sort of things and a lot of like the, you know,
the, the bins at CVS or whatever that are holding all the old like, you know, I know Bruce
Willis is going through a lot, but a lot of like the later latter Bruce Willis stuff.
And this is something that is a big budget, big cast, a lot of explosions, action movie,
that is a blast. There's a good amount of practical effects with the models mixed with,
you know, the compositing and the real stuff as well.
It's just, I don't know, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a big thing.
It's, it is a little bit of like the art, the artifice of it all.
But even when you get into the weeds of the plot and the pace of it all as well, I mean,
there's enough there to keep you going. And in a movie with a lot of characters, they are going to,
I don't know, and this is especially an action, big dumb action movie.
Like some of them are going to come across as stereotypes.
Some of them aren't going to be the best people as they are.
A lot of them are convicts and yet they are like, I don't know, just a group of people that you're
stuck with on a plane and almost a claustrophobic sort of way that you're okay with because you got
Nicolas Cage there to hold your hand through the whole process and to show you the light and to make you
believe that God does exist. 10 out of 10. No.
Yeah. Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I'll get my review on that. Or my score.
What is my, what is, what, I'd say this is a tough one.
This is a fucking tough one. This is a fucking tough.
A lot of fucking tough.
I'm like in between five. I feel like between like five numbers.
And I think I'm going to, I feel like I'll go on the higher end.
Or is man.
Shit.
Fucking con air dog.
It's fucking con air 93.
Cool. Very good. Very. Yeah.
That's where it needs to be.
Yeah, you're not going to, you're not going to get too many contradictory feelings and overall very rewatchable
like that. And that's a huge thing. Like super rewatchable.
I just, I can't sing enough the praises of a wholly original idea, even that it's pretty fucking goofy being made of this
budget level, feeling this just fast and loose and grand.
It is, yeah, it makes me long for the days really at this point that it wasn't something based on an IP and it was just,
we're going to give a pretty goofy concept, all things considered to a filmmaker to make a movie that really it's because it has such little CG.
I am this, which I love another part of this movie. I love it really ends up being so timeless because not a lot of stuff looks overall that dated.
And I think that also speaks to the way that visually the movie looks.
It just, I really have to commend Simon West on this is like, it is very of its time but has a lot of timeless elements to it.
And I think he was going for that. And I think he fucking nailed it.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I'm going to watch this movie for the rest of my life, you know what I mean. And so I'm going to give it.
Yeah, I was a little bored at the end of it with the truck stuff.
It is a little exhausting. Yeah, it's a little exhausting and there's like a whole another set piece at the end that I don't know you almost don't expect.
Yeah, you expect him to land and for things to get wrapped up, but that does it does trail a bit.
But it is pretty dope.
Yeah, it's awesome though.
I'm going to give it a 90.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to give it a 90 percent. I'm going to give it, you know, right on the, yeah, I think there's enough there to not to be 10% off the best off perfect.
There's definitely there. There's stuff there. So yeah, I'm at 90. So yeah, but ballpark buds by and large on Con Airman, which we knew this is going to be the case.
And we picked it on, you know, with the intent of doing something that we can easily a movie we can get back into having a discussion after we have both been busy doing stuff.
And it's nice to get back on the pod and talk about movies because it's the best of these movies, the best. So yeah, always do Con Air.
Yeah. And I try not to have it be boring where we're just lauding the praises of and praising this whole, you know, movie for the whole.
Yeah, right.
Episode. And you know, we've been guilty of that probably. I mean, whatever we've had fun. So if you have it, whatever, it doesn't matter.
Some of those comedies like, oh, not the rocks. But it's so funny. Can you believe it? If Nick Schulte is there, you can believe we're going to be like, remember when we're with.
But it's a great time. And I can do that. And we did that a lot this episode too.
And there's just going to be movies like that. And that's a part of the joy of it all. And I don't know. It's totally I could totally see somebody not like this movie.
Maybe but like I would. I would. I would also kind of question a little bit of like, oh, what other movies do you know, like, what do you like?
Because this is just pure joy. Tell me why this movie doesn't work for you. Yeah, it's pure joy. And yeah, for I can see for a lot of people, not everything works.
And if you don't like action movies, maybe that's a thing. But man, what a fun time. Fun time talking about it. As always, we're a little behind on Halloween season with our own stuff that we've been doing, but we're catching up and we're going to start getting into some scary movies here.
And I might dip into some November scary times a little. I was going to I was trying to come up with a name for it. But this one I know is not a good one. And you'll see why. Because I was like, oh, it's going to be an octo novo horror.
Whoa.
The horror does not probably work. But the horror.
I want to work on it. It's an octo novo horror.
Horror movie.
Yeah.
I'm killing it right now on the promotional side for this from this next phase of the podcast.
I love it. You know what? No, it's not.
No, no.
We'll stick with octo novo.
Yeah, it's octo novo.
It's octo. You know what? It's fine.
It's an octo novo event. And we're we're starting it with a very wacky, weird horror movie, sci-fi horror movie from 2009.
Call. Let's keep it. Yeah. Let's keep it wacky. Right.
It's put that on a bumper sticker. Right. Let's keep it wacky.
Why aren't things wacky anymore? Make America wacky again.
Yeah, that is. You've been saying that for years now.
Yeah. And I'm just in my, you know, clown outfit and I'm just on the street.
And then we'll have.
Just begging the world to just.
I got one of those hand buzzers. I got, you know, my flower, she's water out of it on occasion.
It's a bit of my wacky.
Oh, you're the mayor of wacky town. Right.
God, I wish that's my other.
I go on.
Job. Am I right?
I go over to city hall and, you know, every other weekend and that's my other petition.
The current mayor of wacky town is not wacky enough and he must be stopped.
Back in my day, things were really wacky.
What is up with all this?
Woke.
Wow.
All right.
Oh, it seems that a make America wacky again was not so different from what it was based on.
I'm just glad I wanted to go.
I don't have an agenda.
Oh, just shake my hand and take this literature.
Can a peanuts or whatever those that gag was?
Oh, yeah, they're the Goya peanuts.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, we're doing a we're doing a horror movie.
It's from 2009.
Fine time to be alive and see a sci-fi horror movie called splice.
Splice.
It is a certified fresh critically reviewed.
You've been telling me about this movie for years.
I feel like I don't think I've ever seen it.
I've only seen it once.
But it really stuck.
It was in 2009 in movie theaters and I've always seen it once and I just remember being affected by it deeply.
So much so that I never wanted to see it again.
But then also I wanted to like talk about it too.
So this will be a perfect opportunity to do both of those things to see it again and then talk about it and to rehash some of those feelings.
It is and it's a certified fresh night at 75 percent movie according to critics and a poopy doopie snoopy 37 percent from audience.
And it's in according to I don't know, it almost seems like the blank with the blank check guys say like this is a movie that doesn't exist as well.
Like a certified fresh movie that just doesn't exist.
Yeah, me being really into it.
Oh, it's a del Toro produced thing.
I think I remember that's what I remember.
I don't know if it's actually true, but I remember that's what they advertise in the trailer in my memory.
But we're going to see what happens with splice get a little spooky here.
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I'm ready for season.
Yeah, you've you've been up for spooky time.
So I'm ready.
Yeah, I'm in spooky town.
Halloween town.
Oh, I love that movie.
Halloween town.
I'm there.
Don't have Halloween town.
Don't tempt me.
Oh, I'm a mayor of wacky town.
Couple of mayors hanging out.
Yeah, that's a little right.
Anyway,
this episode's been great.
Such a weird bit.
All right.
I love it.
I'm a warlock because I'm the mayor of Halloween town.
Oh, cool.
God, I'm gonna go watch that movie.
All right.
Love you all.
See you next time.
You all.
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