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Welcome to the podcast everybody.

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I am your host sometimes always forever the guest.

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Welcome back with another polarized podcast episode.

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It's a war of the worlds.

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It's a movie that is polarizing according to rotten tomatoes.

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The audiences and the critics disagree on all of the movies that we talk about here

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according to rotten tomatoes and the one today is certified fresh 75% by the critics

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a 42% by the audience.

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It came out 2005 sci-fi adventure a Spielberg movie.

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The worlds are warring each other.

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First it was stars.

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Now it's worlds.

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What if it was war of the stars?

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Have you seen that movie war of the stars?

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Revenge of the Sith.

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It's almost like if Yoda was talking about Star Wars right?

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Star Wars war of the.

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These war of the stars.

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I would like the fellow king of this kingdom of polarization to join me in this discussion

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as soon as possible because I can't do that.

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This alone I would never even try.

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Never thought about it.

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But just to let you know I would never do it.

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And so here he comes.

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Yeah.

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He's coming.

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He's in the wings.

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Oh, wait a minute.

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It's about to be a big old mess in here.

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Wait a minute.

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Give him a second.

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Oh yeah.

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That's all I need.

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It's me.

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It's you.

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It's the great brandini.

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It's the great brandini.

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There you go.

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Hey.

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Some say you don't need an introduction but I like to give you a good one.

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Because you deserve it.

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Oh thanks.

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Wow.

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You know what?

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I appreciate that.

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Yeah.

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Hey.

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How's it going?

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This man needs the greatest introduction ever.

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Oh, pump.

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Pump me up.

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Because you deserve it.

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I love it.

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My ego is going to just be so inflated I'm going to blast off to the ceiling.

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Just blow a hole in the roof of my apartment.

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I've seen it happen.

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I mean, there's another right before you came in too from something else.

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In my pants.

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No, I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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I'm over it.

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It's weird.

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Anyways, hey.

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Hey.

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Hey.

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Halfway through that.

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Yeah.

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We are speaking of halfway through.

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We're definitely halfway through this summer.

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We're doing, I'm pumped.

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I'm wearing the throes of it, man.

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It's where.

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The Throes of Augie Doggy as one Scott Octi would say.

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Yeah.

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The Augie Doggy days of summer are here.

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First record of August.

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How are we feeling?

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and how's the summer going?

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I'm I'm an I'm an Aki doggy fan.

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I like moving into the transitional seasons.

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I like those transitional seasons.

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I'm excited to transition to the next thing.

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It's weird because we live in an area where that doesn't exist at all.

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Exactly. So when it does happen, it's pretty exciting.

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It is. Yes.

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Otherwise, it's a yeah.

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Nice. It's summer.

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Summer all all all year round.

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It's a lot of times, but this reach otherwise.

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It's just extra extra hot.

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Extra hot extra toasty.

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That's how we have our sandwiches in our bodies during this time of year.

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I feel like it definitely affects me mentally.

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I feel like I almost yeah.

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Me too, man. I'm more than I'm tired all the time.

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I'll just like fall asleep and wake up in a flop.

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Sweat. Right.

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Oh, God. Yeah.

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That was me last time.

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God, right?

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It's just been a lot of nights where yeah, at least once or twice

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waking up being like, wow, I am a hot potato.

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Big time.

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Oh, yeah.

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And you're just, I don't know.

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I feel like a rotisserie chicken.

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I'm just all rolling over and just yeah.

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It's a toasty on the other side.

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You know how it goes.

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You know, I'm fucking war of the world, man.

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I want to have not just you, not just I, but it's an extra special

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but us day today.

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Us and them together.

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Them being the great Blanche is joining us today for yet another space app.

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There's a resident space advisor space in this.

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It's spaces the general general.

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The sci-fi.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Pop goes the weasel.

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Am I right bitches?

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Yeah, you said it, man.

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Pop goes the weasel bitch.

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That's that's how we're feeling.

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That's a large thing.

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No, that's great.

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We know, but I'm just stealing it because I love it so much.

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And I think it's a dirty dog.

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It's really good for this episode.

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I mean, every episode.

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The great Blanche added again.

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Yes.

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Back.

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Good to be able to talk some space to have you.

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Yeah.

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Good to have you back.

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What was Spielberg?

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Like what's what's some of your Spielberg picks that like?

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Oh, man, off the top of your head that you that you love.

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Do a tearless.

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He does.

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He does a little bit of sci-fi here and there is literally my

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all time favorite movie is close encounter.

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Same thing.

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It's like literally my favorite movie of all time.

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So God, yeah, it's yeah.

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I don't want to bring that movie up too much because when you

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do this movie looks even worse.

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I think we actually probably have to go back and check the record,

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but I'm pretty sure we say that's my favorite movie every time

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I'm on this.

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I'm okay.

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The record folks.

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Where's the.

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All right.

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Let's be surprised photographer.

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And yeah, we usually bring up like classic sci-fi movies on

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this podcast that are kind of hailed across the board as like

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being fantastic.

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And then we talk about mainly ones that people disagree on

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here, which is interesting, but it's hard to have a complete

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resounding opinion on it when it is kind of caught in the weeds

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of a lot of different opinions for different reasons.

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And this one I didn't expect to be polarizing and we'll get

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into it as we go along, but I didn't expect this one to be

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as disagreed upon as it is.

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I don't I guess that's actually critics in favor.

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That I know.

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Isn't that bizarre?

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Yeah, because we are surprising.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Because these big budget action movies is always in the case

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where the audience loves it because it's fun.

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You know, yeah.

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Yeah, like a lot of effects and spectacle and summer summer

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blockbuster and go see it in the in the movies.

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And I remember doing that and I don't know.

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There was a lot of reactions to everything and it was

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interesting even at the beginning, a lot of humor in ways

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that like the audience was reacting a lot to as well of

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just kind of the back and forth with this dysfunctional

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sort of family and and and how they're how they're interacting

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with each other.

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But yeah, that surprised me.

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Close encounters is is hardcore hardcore classic.

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We will not be talking about as one we won't be talking about

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because it's a classic.

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Everyone loves it.

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But I mean, even a minority report, I believe came up before

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this and that's kind of where the relationship there in his

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his career.

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But you know, he's done like E.T. in the past as well.

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And he's yeah, yeah, of course, close and close encounters

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and we'll we'll eventually do Kingdom of the Crystal School.

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Sorry, those are those are interdimensional beings.

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Those are not those are not yes.

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Oh, much as these are not necessary.

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They are coming from above, but they're come as above.

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So below below.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, God.

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I'm like don't you know which one?

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Which I can't tell the difference between large and brandy.

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I think that's because the weasel bitch goes away.

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The way that I like that subversion, you know, and it's

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done in a way that's yeah, it's it's done in a spielbergian

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way.

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A lot of like a lot of stuff in this movie.

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Obviously, it all comes out in ways that are set apart from

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like other like alien invasion movies, you know, it's it's cool

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to see his take on it and especially when it's coming

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straight from a text.

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And you guys saw saw this movie like when it came out.

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Oh, yeah.

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This is a huge deal.

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Good Lord.

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It's a big deal.

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It's such a huge deal for us in our time.

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And are you like, yeah, came out in that time of our lives

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where, you know, going to the movies is the big thing.

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We're not 21 yet.

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We're not going to the bars or anything like that.

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What I actually think is funny.

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You guys decided you guys decided to do this one now because

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it's very topical considering all these like congressional

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hearings that are going on.

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It's like, oh, yeah.

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But it's like it's the main one that happened.

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Totally by accident.

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Yeah.

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No, we meant no, we knew.

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I was like, no way.

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You guys got great.

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You got a great producer there at your podcast.

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You guys know you're you run a tight ship over there.

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So I know you guys.

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I'll tell you you said that.

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Thank you.

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Please pass the message along.

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I'm not too familiar with what the actual hearing like, I

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don't know was specifically about.

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I just know generally when it was talked about.

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What's really funny is it's everything that's already been.

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I don't know.

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It seemed kind of to me underwhelming just because everything

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has already been more or less talked about.

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This was just like a place that's now on the record where

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it's like it's now Congress is taking this seriously basically

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and it's going to go through the EBSA phone Congress and

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there'll be like legislation and stuff that'll go in place

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now that'll affect like military stuff or whatever.

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Right.

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Like I guess specifically, I don't really understand is like

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what is what is the like desired outcome from these hearings?

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I get what you mean that there needs to be because that's

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I'm familiar with that process and a couple other sectors of

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of like public sectors and whatnot of like you need to

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establish like.

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Terms invalidate research and invalidate like you need to

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present the facts and then so once we have the facts and we

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can communicate effectively on what the facts like what this

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means here or what does you know x equals y whatever and

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then that way you can then formulate plans.

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Either like fix that, aid that do whatever.

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So yeah, I'm curious what the desire like goal is here to just

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all of us to say aliens exist or what I know that's kind of

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the TBR of it all and and it's really like just to give a

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little context so we you know, it's not take too much time.

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We can get back into the actual movie, but like it's really

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they are there are just like it's a congressional committee

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that's basically being established and the desired outcomes

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from this committee are going to be like certain legislations

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or things that are written into rules that are basically like

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allowing witnesses.

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So like especially a lot of the people that are I don't really

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know what to call it like testifying.

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It's not really testifying because it's just like a hearing.

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It's like a committee like the people that are witnesses.

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Yeah, that's a lot of like Air Force pilots and a lot of that

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there.

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There's a lot of bias that comes with like wanting to actually

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report something that you do see.

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It can come with like, you know, credibility issues with your

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job, like all of this seem like a crazy person to say that

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there's a lot to it.

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So one of the desired outcomes would be like, oh, now there's

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like rules and regulations where you have to report this and

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there's stuff that's like document like stuff that you have

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to fill out now.

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And this is taken more exactly and it's taken more seriously

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and it's documented more clearly.

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Cool. Okay.

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It's just like more like, okay, these people can now feel

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more comfortable with seeing these things reporting them.

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And like we can get to the bottom of like any more information.

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So it's like that's kind of the PLDR that all I think there's

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a lot more to it.

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There's like obviously more things, but that's like a big

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main thing of that they want to.

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Is there anything about burying a tripod's underground?

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Yeah.

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What's the what's I'm now I'm like, what's the procedure there?

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And I'm worried about that again.

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I'm like, TBD, TBD, they need to address that.

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I hope they are.

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So, you know, and it's thing.

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Oh sorry.

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Well, just that's kind of what happened in fucking the other

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movie we talked about tomorrow where I feel like aliens are

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already here.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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More ice caps and shit.

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Right.

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We do.

329
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God, we talked about that collectively together, right?

330
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That was a movie for us.

331
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A long, long time ago, man.

332
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Yeah.

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With a JK with good old JK Sims.

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The aliens were inside the house all along.

335
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Yeah, absolutely.

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They were in the polar ice caps, right?

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It's a quick way to melt and then the aliens come out.

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Right.

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It's a quick way to just have aliens, you know, like not having

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to go through a lot of fluff.

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You can just like, look, you know, we got that classic case of

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infest already here or we even got here already here.

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Class of case of already here aliens.

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Yeah, just really like all the Korean everything.

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It's just like, oh, they're among us.

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They're among us.

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They're shapeshifters.

348
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Yeah.

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Body snatchers.

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If you go.

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Yeah.

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But that's the fucking seismic scientists or whatever.

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Don't know what they're doing.

354
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Why didn't they pick that shit up?

355
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But that's so one of the questions I was going to ask and it

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relates to the very beginning of war of the worlds.

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And it, it's basically about like who.

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Well, I guess it's not, maybe it is jumping a little bit ahead

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of the game.

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But again, let's go for it.

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It's when they, it's when Tom Cruise is seeing the, the lightning

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strike into the ground.

365
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Right.

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Are you talking about that scene where he's standing in front of

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it like he went, oh, he's standing in front of it.

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Just that long walk and talking situation.

369
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Yeah.

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Very New Yorkers, but he just does not have an accent and doesn't.

371
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Yeah.

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Doesn't.

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So one of the things I wanted to ask, ask you guys about that

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scene is at what point are you guys getting the fuck out of

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that?

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Oh, almost immediate.

377
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Well, especially when it's start.

378
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Okay.

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The very specific point for me would be when the ground starts

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to break.

381
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Okay.

382
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Okay.

383
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Good.

384
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Cause there's a lot of, I, I want to think about that cause

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there's before Tom Cruise actually starts running, running.

386
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Yeah.

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There's a lot of time.

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It's like elastic.

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The thing comes out of the ground like pretty slowly relative

390
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to this.

391
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Oh yeah. Cause it's, it happens in phases, right?

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Like first everybody walks up into, up, up to the lightning

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bolt, um, like spot, then it starts to break.

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And then that's a circle.

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Then that circle gets bigger and breaks, like snaps through a

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building.

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And then even at that point, they, he's just kind of backed up

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and backed up, but just can't take his eyes off the fact of

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what's going on.

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And just to sew an emmer by, you know, this whole thing.

401
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That shit dude, I wouldn't even go near like, Oh, the lightning

402
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striking like 27 times or whatever the, the Robbie tells

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us.

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We can't, it he's like, okay, you say here and he's like so mad

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about him taking the car.

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And he's just like, yeah, I'm going to go check it out and leave

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my kids alone.

408
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You know, whatever.

409
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So is that your answer, James?

410
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Is you're not even going to go check it out?

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I'm kind of in that same already what I've seen is weird and I

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don't feel like I need to stick around.

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I'm like already probably going to decide.

414
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Yeah.

415
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You're right.

416
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That's a good point too.

417
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Let's talk about this, this part of the movie because I like this

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part of the movie.

419
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I don't, I don't mind this part of the buildup.

420
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It's a cranks.

421
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Yeah, exactly.

422
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In these movies, I like it like the disaster stuff.

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I'm dreading as like, like the characters in the movie are

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dreading, you know, dreading, you know, when they find out

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what's happening, but like the establishing the characters and

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getting like the glimpses of like something's off and all that

427
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buildup is so nice.

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And the cool thing is that's what all close encounters is.

429
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It's just like all of those things.

430
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It's so great.

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And like nothing like, you know, besides little subtle nuances

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and then all of a sudden the band aids like ripped off and

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you're like, oh, shit, this is real.

434
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Yeah.

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We're a rival is another good example of that.

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A rival though kind of flips it, flips it on its head in to

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degree, but just does it so much like with grace and effectiveness

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because with a rival, they do come, they come down immediately.

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But all of the tension is because I mean, to your guys's

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points to like a part of the, you know, what's built into the

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discovery of this like cause of disaster is all the different

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approaches because it just makes your mind real and like, how

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would I tackle this?

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You know, how would I, you know, pack up, get ready, get out of

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there, prepare for this, all of that stuff, which is just a

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really, you know, fun, enjoyable, like thought experiment to be

447
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presented with, which I really enjoy as well.

448
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And yeah, it's fun that you just, you know, James, you put

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close encounters that way because totally that is what that

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is, that movie is and it's great for it because yeah, it's

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not even necessarily about what the aliens are, what they look

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like or what they want.

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It's just how do we as human beings handle this situation that

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presented with it?

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And that's honestly more interesting than what the aliens

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are.

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Obviously you could make the argument for both, but you get

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what I mean is like you, you can make the argument that our

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handling of it is far more interesting than whatever, you

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know, the aliens are bringing or what have you.

461
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So, yeah, this is, oh, sorry.

462
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I was going to ask you, I wanted you to clarify something,

463
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James, because you said you were talking about the buildup.

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Like that's the one part that you enjoyed.

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So was it like, was it like a pretty gradual do you think it

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like was very subtle and then it actually kind of was a rip the

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band-aid off?

468
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It's the Spielberg stuff where it's like, you know, it reminds

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me of Jurassic Park with like, there's, there's some Jurassic

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Park in this movie in a couple of ways, but the, like the even,

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you know, when you see like the drops and stuff like on the

472
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Jurassic Park when the dinosaur is coming, I feel like it's

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things like that.

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I'm trying to think exactly what it was where even as he was

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going in as the, you know, the storm was one thing and even

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representing the storm and the wind was like the clothes on the

477
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laundry line and everything was establishing the wind and that

478
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I like that.

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And even like just water spraying out of fire hydrants and

480
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things like that were practical effects that are very Spielberg

481
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Spielberg kind of stuff too.

482
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That was like incorporating that with some, some practical effects

483
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or sorry with some special or CG effects, which there's a

484
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definitely a lot of in this too.

485
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But what was specifically your question again?

486
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I guess just like all those like, it's unnerving too.

487
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Then everybody is like outside looking at something and being

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so kind of unsettled collectively, which really just sets is

489
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such great mood, you know, that's where it gets into very obviously

490
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this is inspired by the fallout from nine, 11 and everything that

491
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happened in New York with, with everyone taking that in and

492
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and witnessing that as it was happening like on the ground and

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the chaos that ensued.

494
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It just really spoke to Spielberg dealing with that and all the

495
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dust and shit and everything.

496
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I think.

497
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Yeah.

498
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That's a good point.

499
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I didn't even think about that about the people dust, the

500
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vapor people dust being on them being kind of like the dust of

501
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concrete and buildings from nine, 11.

502
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Everyone knows.

503
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Yeah.

504
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And then you see people that, you know, and, and running away

505
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and all, all that stuff.

506
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But I thought the, yeah, the curiosity that people in the

507
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crowd work within this movie was, yeah, it was really well done

508
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and, and that's something that's difficult to do.

509
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And a lot of, yeah, a lot of people in these, in these crowd

510
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shots, which is, yeah, God, the movie just gets right into what

511
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the aliens look like and here they are and their mean and,

512
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you know, they're out to get everybody very clear.

513
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I am very clear.

514
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I don't know if I love that, but I'm curious how you guys feel

515
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about the design of the tripod.

516
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Do you guys like it or how many strong feelings about it at all?

517
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The machine, like the, yeah, the way that the tripod looks like

518
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we could talk about the aliens too.

519
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Once we get there as well, the look of the look of them.

520
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But what do you think of the, to me, they're tied together

521
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because I think, I think the.

522
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Yeah, I'm literally, yeah, and I almost have to bring them up

523
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together because the, I think the overall design of the, the

524
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ship or the, the tripod itself was accurate in a way to this

525
00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:37,420
story and it, him very clearly wanting it to be a tripod of

526
00:21:37,420 --> 00:21:39,420
some kind.

527
00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:40,420
I thought it was imposing.

528
00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:43,420
I thought it was scary how it was used and the sounds that it

529
00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:48,420
made and, and like it's all tendrils and tentacles and stuff.

530
00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:52,420
I think it, I think it's kind of funny how like the actual aliens

531
00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:54,420
are also tripods.

532
00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:57,420
I think that's kind of funny because it's like, I don't know.

533
00:21:57,420 --> 00:22:00,420
I'm just trying to think of us like by, by pot bipedal creatures

534
00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:01,420
just.

535
00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:02,420
It's like making a mech suit.

536
00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:03,420
That's exactly what I was going to say.

537
00:22:03,420 --> 00:22:04,420
Yeah.

538
00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:05,420
It'd be like making a mech suit.

539
00:22:05,420 --> 00:22:06,420
Yeah.

540
00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:09,420
So you're like, I just thought it was funny.

541
00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,420
They're just like, no, obviously.

542
00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:12,420
Yeah.

543
00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:15,420
This is the best structure in existence.

544
00:22:15,420 --> 00:22:19,420
So why not just make it larger and made out of, you know, not,

545
00:22:19,420 --> 00:22:21,420
yeah, metal or whatever.

546
00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:26,420
I just, I don't really love, you know, the.

547
00:22:26,420 --> 00:22:30,420
The tendrils, like that kind of fluidity, you know, the way that

548
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:32,420
the, whatever.

549
00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:36,420
Type of tendril that is whole, that is the laser beam thing.

550
00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:40,420
I don't know if I really love that because I, I'm trying to

551
00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:43,420
articulate it where.

552
00:22:43,420 --> 00:22:48,420
I'm just thinking about like in Independence Day or in like a

553
00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:52,420
James Cameron type of way where.

554
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:55,420
I don't know if I, because it's so CG.

555
00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:59,420
I just, I kind of wish that it was like a part of the machine that

556
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:03,420
would be like a laser would come down on, you know, hanging from

557
00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:04,420
it and shooting out.

558
00:23:04,420 --> 00:23:09,420
And it's not so much like these CG kind of flowy arms or whatever.

559
00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:11,420
It was kind of clunky.

560
00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:14,420
That was going to be my critique of the tripod is it seemed like

561
00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:17,420
there was a lot of gadgets like it has, like you said, you mentioned

562
00:23:17,420 --> 00:23:19,420
there's like laser tentacles.

563
00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:21,420
There's actual like the three legs.

564
00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:22,420
Right.

565
00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:24,420
And then there's like in the other scenes where they're like later in

566
00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:26,420
the movie, they're like going through and actually picking people

567
00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:27,420
up.

568
00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:29,420
There's like, you know, dozens and dozens of them.

569
00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:31,420
And those seem just like little mini arms.

570
00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:33,420
So it's like this whole.

571
00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:35,420
Are they two different types of things too?

572
00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:38,420
Cause I just, I don't remember seeing the cages, which children

573
00:23:38,420 --> 00:23:39,420
could easily fall out of.

574
00:23:39,420 --> 00:23:43,420
It's not like the, you know, they're like tight metal, like

575
00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:46,420
latticeing that's really holding them in there.

576
00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:50,420
I mean, if you just kind of like, you know, it's not ideal to just

577
00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:54,420
drop a child from, I don't know, a fucking 10, 50 story building.

578
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:57,420
It's like, it was like little baskets.

579
00:23:57,420 --> 00:23:58,420
Yeah.

580
00:23:58,420 --> 00:24:02,420
Rather than, you know, think they have like alien intercoms in those

581
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:05,420
cages that are like, welcome to the alien tripod.

582
00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:10,420
Hold up your children as they may slip through.

583
00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:13,420
Inside the vehicle at all times.

584
00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:14,420
And be careful.

585
00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:16,420
We'll be with you to mutilate you shortly.

586
00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:19,420
When we were about to pick someone will tilt it over just a little

587
00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:20,420
bit.

588
00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:22,420
So there's no escape for any of you.

589
00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:25,420
And I really hope Tom Cruise isn't in any of these.

590
00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:27,420
Cause that guy is a nuisance.

591
00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:28,420
Oh, we're going.

592
00:24:28,420 --> 00:24:29,420
Yeah.

593
00:24:29,420 --> 00:24:32,420
So I don't know guys, but yeah, I just, I don't really like,

594
00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:37,420
and also to the, the snake camera situation didn't love that either.

595
00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:41,420
Cause it's so CG and it has like this fluidity to it.

596
00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:44,420
I'm like, it just kind of drove me a little nuts. Like why couldn't,

597
00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:46,420
I understand that it would be more work, obviously.

598
00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:49,420
So it's like kind of a, you know, just a cost effective measure

599
00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:50,420
or whatever.

600
00:24:50,420 --> 00:24:52,420
Or just maybe, obviously, cause.

601
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:56,420
You know, it's well documented that Steven Spielberg had just such

602
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:58,420
a horrible time with the shark.

603
00:24:58,420 --> 00:25:02,420
Animatronic and all that. So like given, you know, an opportunity to

604
00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:06,420
have the, you know, a similar kind of vibe where it's like hiding

605
00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:10,420
from this thing that's chasing you in a, you know, that type of way.

606
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:15,420
BCG was probably a welcomed, you know, like ability, you know,

607
00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:19,420
welcome technology to be able to leverage instead of making them

608
00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:22,420
like a big mechanical, almost like tentacle thing.

609
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,420
But I just, yeah, all of that stuff does have a lot of,

610
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:28,420
like tentacle thing, but I just, yeah, all of that stuff doesn't

611
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:31,420
really work for me. I wish it was more in the aliens too.

612
00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:36,420
I wish they were just scarier and bigger and were more like brutalist,

613
00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:42,420
like almost like a Harkinen looking aesthetic to their ships.

614
00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:47,420
Instead of having this kind of like, yeah, I don't know this just

615
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:54,420
like big, slowie octopus kind of, you know, everything looks so

616
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:59,420
like really washed out in the effects of this movie and not like

617
00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:03,420
almost like out of focus and it's not terrible, but as far as,

618
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:07,420
yeah, conceptually and putting it all together and the reveal of

619
00:26:07,420 --> 00:26:12,420
the aliens doesn't do a lot for me, let alone that whole kind of

620
00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:16,420
scene with Tim Robbins in the, in the basement is obviously the

621
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:20,420
movie slows down and it takes its time up there, but it also kind of,

622
00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:24,420
I think doesn't work, doesn't work super well for me at that point.

623
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:29,420
It picks up again a little bit, but the amount of time that they

624
00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:33,420
spend in that basement had me questioning it a bit and I haven't

625
00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:37,420
read the book, so I don't know. Plus you're not, you're not,

626
00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:41,420
you can't tell me that that thing doesn't have like heat

627
00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:44,420
vision, like you can see thermal.

628
00:26:44,420 --> 00:26:48,420
Or that it wouldn't even give a shit about three people in a fucking

629
00:26:48,420 --> 00:26:53,420
basement. Why is it, why send four aliens in there to check it out to

630
00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:56,420
you. A bunch of aliens out of the ship to check out and then it

631
00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:59,420
comes back a second time to you.

632
00:26:59,420 --> 00:27:02,420
And then I guess this is just where they're really spreading

633
00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:05,420
their, their bloody seed.

634
00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:08,420
But this is this is the other product that reminded me of Jurassic

635
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:12,420
Park as well, where it's essentially the same thing as the

636
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:16,420
scene in the kitchen with the Raptors or everything. The movie

637
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:19,420
slows down, they're all kind of trying to recoup and then like

638
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:22,420
there's these kind of stealthy things kind of come in and they

639
00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:25,420
got a hide in the kitchen and it was just like, oh, this is like

640
00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:31,420
the same, same beat as that, except yeah, like a worse.

641
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:35,420
I, it, I agree. There's some, there's some sort of disconnects

642
00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,420
with it. And then the whole back and forth with Tim Robbins was

643
00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:41,420
just kind of like, yeah, a man slowly losing his mind, but I

644
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:45,420
feel like he needed a little something more attached to his

645
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:48,420
character that wasn't doing it for me. It seemed like he need,

646
00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:52,420
there's a little more at you attribution to using an EMT and

647
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:56,420
was losing his mind and kind of almost seemed like doomsday

648
00:27:56,420 --> 00:28:00,420
at a prep or a bit or something, but I don't know.

649
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:03,420
No, no, that's a totally fair thing to say. Cause yeah, like,

650
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:07,420
especially if he is a first responder, like why is he losing

651
00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:12,420
his mind so quickly? Cause I mean, the like, this is this whole

652
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,420
situation, like we're probably at like day four or five of this,

653
00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:21,420
right? Oh man, timeline in this movie seems very hard for me.

654
00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:24,420
It's tough. I've seen this movie.

655
00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:34,420
They spend one night at the mom's house and then they spend

656
00:28:34,420 --> 00:28:36,420
the next night at Tim Robbins.

657
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:42,420
Is our whole day in the name. See that's what, cause that's where

658
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:44,420
I'm like, so he sleeps on the car ride, I guess as well.

659
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:47,420
Yeah, that's that whole thing that's right.

660
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:51,420
It's from the mom's house. They go on that road trip to the

661
00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:55,420
Hudson River ferry and then that goes from day to night because

662
00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:59,420
you're right. The son who lets, we got to talk about how much

663
00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:03,420
he sucks. Now he's like just such a drag every single time he's

664
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:07,420
ever on screen and is like, like, yeah, go, go get yourself

665
00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:10,420
killed. Please get out of this movie. No, let's talk about it.

666
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:13,420
Cause like that's, I mean, that's that the way the scenes, this

667
00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:15,420
scene kind of slows down and a lot of the stuff that has to do

668
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:19,420
with him kind of just is confusing and it's, and it's

669
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:23,420
interesting to see everybody else in the movie react to how I'm

670
00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:28,420
reacting to him too, where he's like begging the military to

671
00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:31,420
like, take me with you. I want to fight. They're all looking at

672
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:33,420
him like, what the fuck is your problem and get out of the way.

673
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:37,420
You're going to get run over and, and, and Tom Cruise is just

674
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:39,420
like, yeah, what's your problem? And Dakota Panning is like,

675
00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:41,420
why are you leaving me? You need to take care of me. He's like,

676
00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:45,420
fuck you guys. And then he, and then he, when he's running

677
00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:49,420
over that hill, it was, I like started laughing this, this

678
00:29:49,420 --> 00:29:52,420
time. See, I've seen this movie a fair amount of times and I was

679
00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:56,420
just like laughing at this point because he's like, he, he's

680
00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:01,420
telling me, he's like, like, why are you doing this? Like, he's

681
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:05,420
got no weapon. He's got you're just going to run straight in

682
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:09,420
there. There's a lot of people running to what is the deal

683
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:11,420
with that? See, there's a lot of people running towards the

684
00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:14,420
fire and all the fighting. And then there's a lot of people

685
00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:17,420
running away. There's just a lot of chaos, but I don't know why

686
00:30:17,420 --> 00:30:20,420
there's so many people were like, yeah, it's fine. And there's

687
00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:22,420
all this like shooting and firing everyone. There's all these

688
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:25,420
people walking towards it. And I'm like, why are we all headed

689
00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:28,420
this direction? It looks like it's like supposed to be some

690
00:30:28,420 --> 00:30:32,420
like rural area where maybe it's just like a farm town like

691
00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:36,420
farmers. But then there's like hundreds of people that are like

692
00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:39,420
running away. They're all like, gather this one spot is like

693
00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:42,420
the aliens land like right in the center of town. And that was

694
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:45,420
just over that hill or something. That's what they set up

695
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:50,420
set up shop. Yeah, it's there's a there's a there's a chaos to

696
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:54,420
this movie that is effective. And I think, and that I think

697
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,420
Spielberg does well where yeah, that buildup is is well done.

698
00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:00,420
And then when it actually the curiosity about what's in the

699
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:04,420
ground and then when it does take effect that reaction, I

700
00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:08,420
think it's something that everyone running and and and all

701
00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:12,420
of that is good and him looking in the mirror at the dust and

702
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:18,420
is is great. It sets it apart from from some other movies.

703
00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,420
But oh yeah, we were talking about Robbie at first like

704
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:24,420
yeah, his motivation. Yeah, I mean, just to close it on him.

705
00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:27,420
I mean, his just his motivation and just to fight and everything

706
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:30,420
just kind of is confusing and weird. And then him coming back

707
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,420
at the end is supposed to feel good. Then yours kind of like

708
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:34,420
yeah, why? I don't know.

709
00:31:34,420 --> 00:31:38,420
Can I just pause at this? Do is like, in my mind, the movie is

710
00:31:38,420 --> 00:31:43,420
trying to do this is that the son stereotypically is the

711
00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:48,420
result of Tom Cruise, the father, right? And so in Tom Cruise

712
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:53,420
confronting his son about what it means to be a good family

713
00:31:53,420 --> 00:31:57,420
member and to be part of a family, you know, he is

714
00:31:57,420 --> 00:32:00,420
confronting him as they're like embracing on the hill or

715
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:04,420
whatever about like you can't go just do what you want because

716
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:07,420
you have people that you have to take care of, which is

717
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:11,420
self reflective of him because that is I would argue poorly

718
00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:15,420
been set up with him or maybe not poorly, but it's just so

719
00:32:15,420 --> 00:32:19,420
ham-fisted about how bad of a father he is.

720
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:27,420
Because you don't necessarily know like why it's just such a

721
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:32,420
general like because he's a guy.

722
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:35,420
I don't know what your problem is.

723
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:40,420
Father is I got a few women who'd like to tell you.

724
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:44,420
Because you're a drinker. No, it doesn't seem like it because

725
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:47,420
you just you're kind of a sexaholic.

726
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,420
I don't know. We don't see that.

727
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:51,420
It's not like he's trying to, you know, fucks a bunch in this

728
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:55,420
movie. And like, so what is he a bad father?

729
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:58,420
Yeah, it's just kind of like some they don't like him and

730
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:02,420
he's kind of just it's a presence thing.

731
00:33:02,420 --> 00:33:04,420
I think is what he at Robbie actually says.

732
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:06,420
He's like at that scene.

733
00:33:06,420 --> 00:33:09,420
I think he actually specifically says he's like, he's like,

734
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:13,420
you want to basically take us to mom so that you can pawn us

735
00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:17,420
off on her. Yeah. And then you can only worry about yourself

736
00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:19,420
is exactly how you want it.

737
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:23,420
That's like to me, I would have what like Robbie, that's why he

738
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:27,420
was like a bad dad. That was the whole right between them two.

739
00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:30,420
But they don't you're right. They don't like there was no free

740
00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:33,420
work on that at all. It was just like, Hey, by the way, they're

741
00:33:33,420 --> 00:33:36,420
divorced. He's supposed to be a bad dad.

742
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:40,420
Aowyn. How could you?

743
00:33:40,420 --> 00:33:43,420
I mean, they didn't is pissed.

744
00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:46,420
I know what you mean, though, it isn't even with the Tim Robbins

745
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,420
thing, there's no specific attribute. And that that's kind

746
00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:53,420
of been maybe maybe there doesn't need to be maybe that makes it

747
00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:56,420
too stereotypical of a generic sort of character trait or

748
00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:59,420
something. But it's like, it doesn't seem like there's a

749
00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:03,420
distraction besides just being like lazy and not attentive and

750
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:08,420
maybe absent and not fully, you know, fully catering to their

751
00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:11,420
needs, you know, having their their bedroom still so the same

752
00:34:11,420 --> 00:34:15,420
and stuff like that. And the engine in the kitchen and a pinball

753
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,420
machine in the class.

754
00:34:17,420 --> 00:34:20,420
The ball machine in the class. I mean, I mean, I mean, he's

755
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:25,420
living his best life. Come on. All the condiments you need.

756
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:29,420
So I prefaced this yesterday and to you guys so you can think

757
00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:32,420
about it. So speaking of his apartment and that and

758
00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:35,420
relationship and all that is so he really has a hard time with

759
00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:40,420
hummus and this and I wanted to ask you guys on like, is what is

760
00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:46,420
the hummus of our of today? If this movie were to have been made

761
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:50,420
today, instead of hummus, what would it be?

762
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:52,420
I think you still have to clarify this question more a little

763
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:56,420
bit for me because I've been okay, so okay, so this is so let me

764
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:59,420
just say this is told that she needs to order food for the

765
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:03,420
family. I know you typically orders hummus or was it just

766
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,420
because it's just that hummus is all that was left over. There

767
00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:10,420
was probably no. So the problem that Tom Cruise has with it is

768
00:35:10,420 --> 00:35:14,420
he even says that it's not even to him. Not it's not real real

769
00:35:14,420 --> 00:35:18,420
food. Okay, gotcha. So he looks at it as like a like it's it's

770
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:22,420
kind of the way that somebody who doesn't eat health food would

771
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:27,420
react to something being like you're eating grass like you know

772
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:31,420
that energy about it. Like I don't understand why you would eat

773
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:35,420
a piece made of garbanzo beans when you should have ordered

774
00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:38,420
burgers and fries like what are you doing eating this weirdo

775
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:44,420
food, you know hummus, a weirdo food like because even at the

776
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:47,420
time that was hummus this at that like in reference to your

777
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:51,420
question like is is hummus even that at this time?

778
00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:55,420
Especially New York City. Is it saying in New York City like

779
00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:58,420
he hasn't he hasn't been around hummus before like there's

780
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:03,420
no medicated places. Yeah, any Israelis, any Lebanese like any

781
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:07,420
Middle Eastern people like in his entire existence that have been

782
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:09,420
I don't know what you mean though. Like this is a this is a

783
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:13,420
trope you're talking about in movies where somebody is like

784
00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:18,420
and it happened with sushi and you know I like as well like oh

785
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:23,420
raw fish. Oh no. And people react in like in movies in the 80s

786
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:27,420
and shit like that. So yeah, I'm just not sure if that trope of a

787
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:33,420
book works as well now. Decide besides highlighting a fault in

788
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:38,420
that person that's eating it or something or like yeah that like

789
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:42,420
kind of how you said like it's some sort of hipster weird, you

790
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:46,420
know, health thing that they're like a care like another character

791
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:52,420
that's not used to like like an impossible burger like I want

792
00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:55,420
real meat like that sort of character distinction of that's

793
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:59,420
what I was gonna say highlighting that in a tropey sort of way

794
00:36:59,420 --> 00:37:02,420
like it what is this shit give me real meat you know that sort

795
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:06,420
of thing. 100% yeah no the impossible me would be good. It's

796
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:09,420
just the I would just pause I mean I don't mean to yuck you're

797
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:13,420
yum here but like impossible meat can be a burger right like

798
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:16,420
if anything you could trick somebody in the eating an impossible

799
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:19,420
burger from face value right it's the same and then you have

800
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:23,420
that Chris Farley clearly like that's a no where it's like oh

801
00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:26,420
that'd be great especially like oh this is good like excuse me

802
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:29,420
sir did you know that you are actually eating impossible

803
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:34,420
burger what son of a bitch.

804
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:38,420
Actually then so it probably have to be like a black bean patty

805
00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:41,420
or something that it was like something like that you know where

806
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:45,420
it's like very obvious that it's not tempeh it's tempeh you

807
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:50,420
know what is this it's a temporary cheeseburger. Jack fruit

808
00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:53,420
well yeah.

809
00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:56,420
Hey it's all good all good to me I just yeah that's for

810
00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:58,420
interested me yeah that just doesn't hold up and it's like

811
00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:02,420
you know he's he's the per he's the guy who did the chilled

812
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:05,420
monkey brain seeing you know so it's like he's he's this is not

813
00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:11,420
his first rodeo of doing we're talking BG3.

814
00:38:11,420 --> 00:38:17,420
I J2 IG TOD.

815
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,420
But you know that's that was something that he used in that

816
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:24,420
movie to show it you know just it's very cultural insensitivity

817
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:28,420
exactly and I think that's exactly the reason why it's not

818
00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:33,420
being used you know how that's like hold up anymore either.

819
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:36,420
Yeah absolutely it is funny to think about the point you made

820
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:39,420
James of like is hummus even weird at that point.

821
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:44,420
I know right because it because now from where we're sitting

822
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:49,420
in this at you know in 2023 it just seemed so it stood out so

823
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:54,420
much to me where somebody is like really can't understand

824
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:59,420
hummus like it's such a foreign concept to him of like what

825
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:03,420
yeah it could be it maybe it's like they're yeah talking about

826
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:08,420
how weird how weird he is rather than how weird hummus is it

827
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:12,420
could be more like how weird he is and how ignorant he is to

828
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:15,420
the world around him and how it makes sense why nobody wants

829
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:19,420
to be with him but he's just loves his car he fucking loves

830
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:22,420
his car it's a great car he's got his engine maybe he's just

831
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:26,420
spent his all time all of his time in that car and playing

832
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:29,420
and playing pinball and wanting to just live life how he wants

833
00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:34,420
to live it his frustration as Tom Cruise and being like kind of

834
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:37,420
failing is kind of funny where he's Tom Cruise is such a winner

835
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:40,420
yeah and he's just kind of like fucking up you know and the

836
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,420
whole when it like culminates in that peanut butter sandwich

837
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:45,420
thing and he just throws it at the window and it just that

838
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:48,420
reflection of the Peter motor sandwich with his like kind of

839
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:51,420
tearful face was like worked really well I don't know that

840
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:54,420
some of that and I remember in the theaters do like people

841
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:58,420
just kind of chuckling at that and there's just something that

842
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:01,420
is probably speaking from experience as you can see over

843
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:06,420
as probably it seems like a dad and also his issues with his

844
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:10,420
own father as well probably coming coming through but there

845
00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:13,420
you know very like themes that a lot of themes that have been

846
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:17,420
in his movies like in the familial sense and everything but

847
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,420
you know that there's there's some highlights of this movie I

848
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:23,420
mean like there's the train thing that where the fucking train

849
00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:27,420
on fire going by that that was like quite the effect they're

850
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:30,420
them rolling in with the car and everyone taking over the car

851
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:34,420
and the gun and crazy before that the plane cry like how the

852
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:39,420
plane that plane crash was pretty pretty intense it was

853
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:42,420
still very trippy to me again from the whole time perspective

854
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:45,420
because like right so that was like right after the peanut

855
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:49,420
butter you know that you just like that plane down already

856
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:55,420
is well well I mean I I have a lot of issues with it's like

857
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:59,420
when they can hear let's let's do when they can hear the plane

858
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:04,420
falling and all of those symptoms of a plane crashing are going

859
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:09,420
on outside it still just seemed like nah I'm like this seems

860
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:13,420
like the longest crash ever right like fair I'm just listening

861
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:18,420
to plane sounds like go I'm like how long and how like from

862
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:22,420
how I feel like I thought about that this time to it would be

863
00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:25,420
so quick further away like it should have been a louder sound

864
00:41:25,420 --> 00:41:31,420
further away coming into like directly over it was very loud

865
00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:38,420
and like shaking this plane just hovering over it wouldn't be

866
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:43,420
shaking the building it would be like boom where yeah building

867
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:47,420
hit right so that whole part I'm just like I don't know and

868
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:58,420
of course yeah yeah yeah and then they appear to sleep spend

869
00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:01,420
the night because it was nighttime they go down to the basement

870
00:42:01,420 --> 00:42:04,420
and then they hide in the weird shit happens shit wait what's

871
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:06,420
that oh yeah they're sleeping and then that happens and they

872
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:08,420
got to go where all the pipes are for the rest of the night

873
00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:11,420
yeah and then just sleep though to Mike's point is really weird

874
00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:16,420
and then they go back to sleep and then he wakes up and he

875
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:19,420
goes outside he's like oh my god he's fucked

876
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:24,420
all right good night don't forget to set your alarm

877
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:28,420
yeah it's a bit yeah I mean if the plane should have been like

878
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:31,420
no power like no power to anything the plane should have been done

879
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:34,420
so like right with everything else unless it was just like

880
00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:38,420
lighting around for for a bit or something but it that scene

881
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:41,420
when they're leaving is like and obviously besides that being

882
00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:45,420
able to like just you know drive away and be like oh there's

883
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:48,420
a perfect path for my car to like this area which is great

884
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:53,420
actually fun side story I got to work on the planet because

885
00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:57,420
they fixed the solenoids or whatever the fuck yeah the car

886
00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:01,420
the mechanic you know the most New York guy in the movie yeah

887
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:06,420
but but a fun side note is I got a universal touring that set

888
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:09,420
yeah they still do it they still do it

889
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:11,420
they still do it they still do it

890
00:43:11,420 --> 00:43:13,420
to mine all of the last time I was there it's still going

891
00:43:13,420 --> 00:43:16,420
yeah because it's an amazing set and I see why they're like

892
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:20,420
we fucking ripped apart an actual 747 like a this and not in

893
00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:23,420
use and service anymore it's getting decommissioned

894
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:26,420
decommissioned yeah and then brought it over and and tore it

895
00:43:26,420 --> 00:43:30,420
apart and you drive through it and your and best right there

896
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,420
the tram ride you do the tour of the set like the behind the

897
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,420
scenes and everything and awesome you drive through it and

898
00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:39,420
it shows the scene as you're driving through yeah it's

899
00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:43,420
weirdly smaller than but that's just like movie magic it is

900
00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:47,420
yeah but like you have the zoomed out perspective but like

901
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:50,420
when you actually see these fill in so much of the background

902
00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:53,420
of like to add perspective of like the neighborhood and all

903
00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:58,420
that stuff but yeah still fucking so cool I think I read it

904
00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:01,420
was like it was cheaper to do it that way than to have built

905
00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:05,420
an airplane like replica or whatever right yeah just to have

906
00:44:05,420 --> 00:44:10,420
one so was it money saving just to have a decommission on the

907
00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:14,420
lot instead of wherever planes go to get decommissioned yeah

908
00:44:14,420 --> 00:44:16,420
and I'm sure it'd be more expensive to move it as well rather

909
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:20,420
than just make it a part of the right that's the way exactly

910
00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:26,420
yeah just leave me out just cool alright then that's a man

911
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:32,420
I love that yeah really so fun fucking turn lemons into lemon

912
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:37,420
eight every which way I feel like it's that's like a lot of

913
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:39,420
my gripe with this movie I think is really it's like

914
00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:42,420
everything is really shot well and like a lot of it is just

915
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:46,420
like similar scenes to get to the this this Spielberg bread

916
00:44:46,420 --> 00:44:49,420
and butter where it's like really pretty visual shots really

917
00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:53,420
set up well right like like it gets you get you get a lot of

918
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:57,420
those like just pretty frequent in the film so and that's why

919
00:44:57,420 --> 00:45:00,420
I think I really like it because it's like his bread and butter

920
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:04,420
and he visually makes things look so good and like it really

921
00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:06,420
brings you there which is cool but then if you actually start

922
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:08,420
paying attention to the movie is whether it's like a little bit

923
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:13,420
of a oh yeah it really is some holes yeah we get the problems

924
00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:18,420
with Ravi and yeah he builds attention so well and the

925
00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:21,420
disaster thing is not something that appeals to me anymore

926
00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:24,420
the rolling number stuff you know I don't know it's not really

927
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:30,420
my thing and this is a version that that puts it together

928
00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:33,420
and then and entertaining overall sort of way and yeah I

929
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:36,420
think for me would it would be some of those character moments

930
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:40,420
don't fully hit and don't fully flesh themselves out enough

931
00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:44,420
and some of the yeah some of the designs can be a little

932
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:47,420
wonky and stuff but yeah there's some cool camera work that

933
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:52,420
shot when they're driving down the way is where it's going

934
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:56,420
and like 360 around the van the whole time as they're driving

935
00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:00,420
and like in the car out of the car and stuff and very cool

936
00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:02,420
there's and there's a lot of the dialogue working with within

937
00:46:02,420 --> 00:46:06,420
all that and then it assumes back out and even just watching

938
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,420
all the extras point at the car like hey how'd they get a car

939
00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:14,420
and all that stuff is just tuned tuned in really really well

940
00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:17,420
yeah or even that intro we didn't talk about it much but

941
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:20,420
the very very beginning of the movie book and being on the

942
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:25,420
yard right like in the yard and him you know the shipping

943
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:28,420
containers off and that was really that's really good to see

944
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:31,420
that at scale and from that perspective it was really cool

945
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:34,420
to see someone up there like in that window operating the big

946
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:38,420
crane and I was like I established the city and like a big

947
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:42,420
shop but also like hey we're going to go in here and this is

948
00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:48,420
where he's at and doing the yeah that that job seems like a

949
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:53,420
cool character trait and his his boss being like you're the best

950
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:56,420
you gotta stay like I'm busy and it's like it seems like he's

951
00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:59,420
making time for his kids that's good but yeah he's got the New

952
00:46:59,420 --> 00:47:03,420
York camp and then his Robby's got the Boston cap such a little

953
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:09,420
shithead some some humor right there and then Robby like

954
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:13,420
calls him out and then like right before he throws a bag he's

955
00:47:13,420 --> 00:47:15,420
like that's why you're such a little asshole when you come over

956
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:19,420
here or something that just breaks the window like I don't

957
00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:22,420
know there's some the tension there's and Dakota Dakota fan

958
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:24,420
and we haven't really talked about her and how great she is as

959
00:47:24,420 --> 00:47:28,420
a child actor actress like you know let's change that because

960
00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:31,420
she deserves she's probably my favorite thing in this movie

961
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:36,420
absolutely every scene with her is pretty much the best she

962
00:47:36,420 --> 00:47:39,420
handles so and then like what she's like you're not you're not

963
00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:43,420
going to get through to him that way you know yeah kind of stuff

964
00:47:43,420 --> 00:47:48,420
is wise about her views delivers those lines really well even

965
00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:51,420
when she's like I have to go to the bathroom like there was a

966
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:54,420
pause there and she took it in like she didn't brush anything

967
00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:58,420
and very thoughtful actor like I was impressed again watching

968
00:47:58,420 --> 00:48:03,420
it this time yeah I agree I like to yeah I mean also too I

969
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:08,420
noticed this time around how much her anxiety her screaming

970
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:14,420
adds to the tension well it doesn't it continues to just

971
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:20,420
really keep momentum going and like fear and the anxiety that

972
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:24,420
it's trying to elicit like it keeps talking specifically that

973
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:27,420
freeway scene or throughout just in general I mean God she

974
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:32,420
she really like her being afraid you know happens all throughout

975
00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:37,420
the movie and I think it adds yeah and doesn't you know I

976
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:40,420
think it adds to the tension because I read some of the

977
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:44,420
reviews and some a lot of people find her annoying but I I

978
00:48:44,420 --> 00:48:47,420
don't know I can see that being the case but I just I think

979
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:54,420
that is to her credit that she is you know she is a frustrating

980
00:48:54,420 --> 00:49:00,420
character but it's a kid in this situation it's going to be

981
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,420
hell it's going to be very frustrating because every which

982
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:06,420
way especially at her age yeah you would need to like they're

983
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:09,420
always questioning why are we doing things you know all of

984
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:12,420
that stuff and yeah it's super frustrating but yeah again I

985
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:16,420
think she that it is weird to have a gripe about like you

986
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:19,420
know it got she's so fucking annoying it's like yeah she

987
00:49:19,420 --> 00:49:22,420
hits that's like an 11 year old when you got Robbie right

988
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:25,420
there yeah she hits that stride pretty early on in the movie

989
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:27,420
too because in that freeway scene I think they do they

990
00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:30,420
transition it pretty well into going from the shock and

991
00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:34,420
off seeing what Tom saw right and going in the car and being

992
00:49:34,420 --> 00:49:40,420
like Dakota's freaking the fuck out right and like the you

993
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:43,420
know the music's intense they're going somewhat fast on the

994
00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:46,420
freeway right and Robbie was like calmly asking but then

995
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:49,420
there's that Dakota in the back where she's like take me to

996
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:55,420
my freaking the fuck out so yeah I agree again yeah establishing

997
00:49:55,420 --> 00:49:59,420
that like dichotomy she just really kind of fizzles out after

998
00:49:59,420 --> 00:50:04,420
this right is it or is there other another career like it

999
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:09,420
ends her for a little bit um and this is definitely the the

1000
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:14,420
big one in in my mind as as far as like some other some other

1001
00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:18,420
big stuff it's been a lot of her her sister I feel like

1002
00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:24,420
lately but yeah I am Sam was 2001 War of the World 2005

1003
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:30,420
man fire was 2004 that's right before this and then secret

1004
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:35,420
life of the one for secret life of bees 2008 never saw that

1005
00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:46,420
that's the Jerry Seinfeld one right that's the sequel I'm

1006
00:50:46,420 --> 00:50:52,420
actually not not sure either but it's not the B movie is a

1007
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:56,420
based on a novel in 1964 a teenage girl in search of the

1008
00:50:56,420 --> 00:50:58,420
truth about her mother runs away to a small town in South

1009
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:00,420
Carolina and finds a family of independent women who can

1010
00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:05,420
connect her to her past is the IMDB description Dakota

1011
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:11,420
family Jennifer Hudson Queen Latifah um and what are some

1012
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:16,420
other things Twilight saga Eclipse and new yes that I'm

1013
00:51:16,420 --> 00:51:23,420
she was the voice of voice of Coraline which is a fantastic

1014
00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:29,420
movie 2009 uh yeah there's she's there's there's movies here

1015
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:33,420
but um I think this the Please Stand by movie I know that was

1016
00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:38,420
big Oceans 8 once upon a time in Hollywood uh she was at the

1017
00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:45,420
ranch if you remember her for like in the room like

1018
00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:51,420
proceeding Bruce seen Bruce Storn or whatever weird weird

1019
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:56,420
scene person yeah kind of yeah um that's I mean still doing

1020
00:51:56,420 --> 00:52:00,420
it bringing people's careers back for you know for moments

1021
00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:04,420
for for bright moments um and then yeah I'd like to at least

1022
00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:06,420
before we move on to reviews and everything just mentioned

1023
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:08,420
like those bookends with Morgan Freeman because I feel like

1024
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:12,420
this was at the at a time to where it was before that was

1025
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,420
like a almost a joke anytime you hear now it's like a parody

1026
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:19,420
because no one actually like he doesn't do that anymore if

1027
00:52:19,420 --> 00:52:23,420
he's getting old of course yeah but like uh if you were to do

1028
00:52:23,420 --> 00:52:25,420
it now it's almost like as a joke because it was just done

1029
00:52:25,420 --> 00:52:28,420
so much uh with like Mark the penguins I'm not sure what

1030
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:32,420
you're that but uh this too I think was when that was still

1031
00:52:32,420 --> 00:52:37,420
uh a thing that was like oh we can transition him to voice

1032
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:41,420
overs and make it uh very epic off off the bat which was

1033
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:43,420
interesting watching the trailer was a different narrator

1034
00:52:43,420 --> 00:52:46,420
doing the exact same thing to footage that was not even in

1035
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:49,420
the movie so that was just a very early teaser in my mind

1036
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:52,420
where they didn't have everything flushed out um but even

1037
00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:55,420
you know as far as not everything flushed out goes you are

1038
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:59,420
you guys satisfied with the bookends of this movie with how

1039
00:52:59,420 --> 00:53:03,420
they not only introduce it but how they wrap it up with uh I

1040
00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:08,420
am not wildly unsatisfied I think it's very stupid I I thought

1041
00:53:08,420 --> 00:53:11,420
I had misremembered how how quickly you're rapid and I was

1042
00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:16,420
like oh no yeah it's fucking quick yeah oh yeah and it just is

1043
00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:23,420
so weird to the the way it's plotted that Tom Cruise blowing

1044
00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:28,420
up one of them seems to like weirdly coincide with all of

1045
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:32,420
them not working again because it's just the way that it's

1046
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:35,420
like one happens after the other so quickly but they're

1047
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:38,420
really have nothing to do with each other it's just these

1048
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:42,420
aliens are morons by and large yeah like because there's

1049
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,420
it's not like they were in a rush to invade us they apparently

1050
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:51,420
set up stuff you know before humans were even really humans

1051
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:57,420
and then decided on this day and they couldn't plan out that

1052
00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:01,420
I just it's so they don't have a microscope I'm sorry I'm

1053
00:54:01,420 --> 00:54:06,420
I'm it's so dumb they uh yeah I it's it's 100%

1054
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:11,420
contradictory because in the prologue you know he says like

1055
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:14,420
specifically states it's like you know while we were pursuing

1056
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:17,420
mundane like human whatever the fuck right they've been

1057
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:21,420
watching and studying right and it's like how how much

1058
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:25,420
studying have they been doing if they were not ready for the

1059
00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:28,420
test and they haven't seen like a hospital they haven't seen

1060
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:33,420
all the humans dying of like you know disease and all that

1061
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:39,420
stuff yeah all of it like it's just so funny how quickly how

1062
00:54:39,420 --> 00:54:43,420
quickly you think about it just in a nanosecond you're like oh

1063
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:47,420
this is very stupid and they didn't come up with a solve

1064
00:54:47,420 --> 00:54:50,420
for this or it's like happening level you know like in a

1065
00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:54,420
shaman sort of way and like level twist that just doesn't

1066
00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:58,420
really yeah and I feel like they didn't want to spend too much

1067
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:01,420
time explaining it because then it would have yeah fallen apart

1068
00:55:01,420 --> 00:55:05,420
even more or just not really been as satisfying as as you wanted

1069
00:55:05,420 --> 00:55:11,420
it and having those bookends just seemed like a cheat and I

1070
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:14,420
guess the timing of it all is like yeah it took what for for

1071
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:18,420
three to five days for them for all the water and oxygen and

1072
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:21,420
all the shit to affect them enough to just be like oh wait

1073
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:26,420
this isn't this isn't gonna work but I guess we'll never know

1074
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:30,420
because we just get the Morgan Freeman from the moment they

1075
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:35,420
started drinking our water and breathing on air yeah right

1076
00:55:35,420 --> 00:55:40,420
I'm so curious though because it's like it's weird to me that

1077
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:47,420
I don't know like I feel I feel like to as a viewer of the

1078
00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:50,420
movie and I'm trying to think more along the audience side of

1079
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:55,420
it or you know a little bit disagreeing yeah and this must be

1080
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:58,420
a big part of it is this ending yeah right it has to be right

1081
00:55:58,420 --> 00:56:02,420
because I feel like if you're gonna humans don't like generally

1082
00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:05,420
just being a human being we don't like the idea of like being

1083
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:08,420
taken over and exterminated right so if you're gonna put us

1084
00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:13,420
through that stress emotionally then I feel like when you wrap

1085
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:16,420
it all up that way where it's just like oh it's so satisfying

1086
00:56:16,420 --> 00:56:20,420
you're like oh we didn't meet and it's like we could have done

1087
00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:22,420
different like I feel like why isn't the government are doing

1088
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:25,420
like why can't we say oh let's all shelter in place or do

1089
00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:28,420
something because you know we can be smarter about instead of

1090
00:56:28,420 --> 00:56:31,420
like going and trying to fight like every scene that the

1091
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:33,420
government was involved in the military was involved it was

1092
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:37,420
like that citing you know the the aliens which I'm like it's

1093
00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:40,420
a normal response I guess but once you fill out find out all

1094
00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:43,420
the technology you can't kind of treat I feel like you got as

1095
00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:46,420
there's alternate methods that you would go about and it happens

1096
00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:51,420
in such a short amount of time that just there's yeah as far as

1097
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:54,420
of anything of consequence within that time on either side

1098
00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:57,420
doesn't really nothing really happens there's nothing we could

1099
00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:00,420
have done differently that would have changed the outcome and

1100
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:03,420
same goes for them besides just studying up a little bit more

1101
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:06,420
and it's just funny to think like okay let's get our attack

1102
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:11,420
going yeah this is going great okay wait

1103
00:57:11,420 --> 00:57:14,420
and then you just like dying just like kind of funny and then

1104
00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:17,420
just like I don't because it's thinking of just like launching

1105
00:57:17,420 --> 00:57:20,420
a big attack and then just like falling over and dying like in

1106
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:23,420
the middle of everything is almost like humorous and weird

1107
00:57:23,420 --> 00:57:27,420
yeah well because the whole time I'm like I remember it's like

1108
00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:30,420
it was so hard for us to fight them that I'm like what are these

1109
00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:35,420
scenes of us citing them accomplishing like what is stopping

1110
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:39,420
or if we're setting up a line of tanks right where Robbie is

1111
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:43,420
doing his whole ego I'm going to save the world and run towards

1112
00:57:43,420 --> 00:57:48,420
the danger right like what is stopping the alien advance is

1113
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:51,420
it the tanks actually affected are we just throwing everything

1114
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:54,420
we have at them and they're just like okay our resources are

1115
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:59,420
being built up from just trying to like I give a tour for all

1116
00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:03,420
this attack you wanted the B movie sort of like the army

1117
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:07,420
army versus the alien sort of imagery I'm sure is a big big

1118
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:11,420
thing that he he wanted to and so on all of it but there was no

1119
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:15,420
they made it clear I guess the communication between countries

1120
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:18,420
or it was really just boots on the ground like what was going

1121
00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:21,420
on in Tom Cruise's world and the way that did it out information

1122
00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:25,420
was just through his eyes and so taking it almost taking

1123
00:58:25,420 --> 00:58:27,420
advantage of the audience a little bit that way where it's

1124
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:29,420
just like oh you're just going to see them fighting in the

1125
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:31,420
background in a lot of background stuff but that's never

1126
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,420
going to be fully explained because Tom Cruise is too busy

1127
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:37,420
taking care of you know just surviving and and and living

1128
00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:40,420
and none of that stuff really needs to be explained and it

1129
00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:43,420
almost just comes across as just experiencing a really fucked

1130
00:58:43,420 --> 00:58:46,420
up event and then just having to be like fuck man okay I

1131
00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:49,420
was I guess well that happened and yeah now it's over and I

1132
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:51,420
didn't have anything to do with it any but I guess I just

1133
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:56,420
had a fucking deal with that and yeah it's it rings a little

1134
00:58:56,420 --> 00:59:01,420
hollow but you know what it is I know I just reminds me again

1135
00:59:01,420 --> 00:59:05,420
of like 9 the 9-11 sort of mindset of just kind of like dealing

1136
00:59:05,420 --> 00:59:08,420
with a very traumatic fuck fucking event having to bind

1137
00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:11,420
together at the end and realizing you know you have your

1138
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:14,420
you know your family and everything there and even seeing

1139
00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:18,420
like all the American flags you know like lining up to to

1140
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:20,420
emphasize the wind as well you know that's another yeah again

1141
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:24,420
like it's it's these these interesting fun ways practical

1142
00:59:24,420 --> 00:59:28,420
ways to highlight effects they almost had JJ Abrams write

1143
00:59:28,420 --> 00:59:33,420
this movie but he was busy making lost I think was yeah it was

1144
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:37,420
one little tidbit I saw this probably you know what that

1145
00:59:37,420 --> 00:59:40,420
would have had which in this movie then if he would have

1146
00:59:40,420 --> 00:59:43,420
done that is what would the MacGuffin be there has to be

1147
00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:46,420
something we need to get an object to a person in order to

1148
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:50,420
you know be able to overtake the aliens or whatever there

1149
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:52,420
could be a good version of that there could be a really

1150
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:55,420
really good version of that too so I don't know better version

1151
00:59:55,420 --> 01:00:00,420
I'm not sure this movie you can't pull off this kind of

1152
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:03,420
narration of like and that's how the cookie chrome it's like

1153
01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:09,420
that's the way it is yeah yeah I'll do a live TV trivia now

1154
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,420
when I'm thinking of it when aliens are investigating the

1155
01:00:11,420 --> 01:00:13,420
junk in the basement one of them plays with the bicycle

1156
01:00:13,420 --> 01:00:15,420
wheel this is a reference to the original book the main

1157
01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:17,420
character observes that with all the advanced technology the

1158
01:00:17,420 --> 01:00:20,420
aliens possess they do not use any wheels and wonders if the

1159
01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:23,420
alien life form had skipped the invention of the wheel

1160
01:00:23,420 --> 01:00:27,420
one scene shows Ray running out of the house to find Robbie

1161
01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:29,420
while dozens of people are right outside his house

1162
01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:32,420
photographing the lightning storm to film the scene

1163
01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:34,420
producers hired people in the street to come to the street

1164
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:36,420
at the time of shooting the camera and film so they can get

1165
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:41,420
pictures of Tom Cruise for free while filming nearby Tom

1166
01:00:41,420 --> 01:00:44,420
Cruise along with 20 member entourage including Spielberg

1167
01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:48,420
visited a Lexington visited a Lexington Virginia Dairy

1168
01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:52,420
Queen cruise saw a jar on the counter with a photo of Ashley

1169
01:00:52,420 --> 01:00:55,420
Flint and her story Flint had been in a go-kart accident a few

1170
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:58,420
months earlier earlier leaving her family with a mountain

1171
01:00:58,420 --> 01:01:04,420
of hospital bills cruise put $5,000 cash into the jar

1172
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:10,420
you just had $5,000 cash on everything in my wallet

1173
01:01:10,420 --> 01:01:13,420
just $5,000 what a guy

1174
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:15,420
yeah

1175
01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:18,420
during the filming of the underwater scenes director Spielberg

1176
01:01:18,420 --> 01:01:21,420
played a prank on Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning by playing

1177
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:24,420
a dramatic music from Jaws through the massive underwater

1178
01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:27,420
speakers on the sound stage that's fun what a fun thing

1179
01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:30,420
playing pranks

1180
01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:33,420
God what a what a movie that is

1181
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:38,420
to remind everybody it is a 75% by the critics a 42% by the

1182
01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:40,420
audience I'm gonna go through some reviews you guys want to take

1183
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:43,420
a break or anything are we good to go

1184
01:01:43,420 --> 01:01:46,420
I'm okay okay yeah cool all right so we'll go through some

1185
01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:50,420
positive reviews from the critics Kenneth Turan from LA

1186
01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:52,420
Times gave it a 100

1187
01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:55,420
they say working in the spirit of his predecessors but with

1188
01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:58,420
the kind of uncanny special effects they could barely dream

1189
01:01:58,420 --> 01:02:01,420
of Spielberg has come up with an impressive production that

1190
01:02:01,420 --> 01:02:04,420
is disturbing in the way only provocative science fiction can

1191
01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:10,420
be from Hollywood reporter Kirk Honeycut gave it an 80

1192
01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:13,420
might be too realistic for its own good the film takes perhaps

1193
01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:16,420
a little too much glean its ability to manufacture mayhem

1194
01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:20,420
that being said the ride is extraordinary

1195
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:23,420
let's do the New York Times a 70

1196
01:02:23,420 --> 01:02:27,420
Dana Stevens acting is not really the point of this movie

1197
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:31,420
which seems to arise above all from Mr. Spielberg's desire

1198
01:02:31,420 --> 01:02:34,420
to reaffirm that he is along with everything else a master of

1199
01:02:34,420 --> 01:02:38,420
pure action film making

1200
01:02:38,420 --> 01:02:42,420
and God they meant that the acting is not strong in this movie

1201
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:47,420
yeah I agree let's check out some audience opinions

1202
01:02:47,420 --> 01:02:52,420
from the negative side of 42 percent from them

1203
01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:58,420
let's see from a Kelly a one star out of five title just know

1204
01:02:58,420 --> 01:03:02,420
Tom Groves does his usual great job with the script is awful

1205
01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:05,420
and the ending is such an insult to our intelligence that it

1206
01:03:05,420 --> 01:03:08,420
reads like we can flip the bird watch edge of tomorrow if you

1207
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:12,420
want to see Tom in a movie with a solid script

1208
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:15,420
other viewers have discussed all the irritants in this movie

1209
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:18,420
including the kids I haven't seen anyone specifically mentioned

1210
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:21,420
ending this will constitute a spoiler if you care

1211
01:03:21,420 --> 01:03:24,420
the last scene is of the most ridiculous family reunion

1212
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:27,420
everybody else on the planet these either dead or struggling

1213
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,420
to survive covered with filth their homes destroyed but hey look

1214
01:03:31,420 --> 01:03:34,420
the townhouse door opens and there's the whole family all

1215
01:03:34,420 --> 01:03:37,420
dressed nicely including grandma and her prim little outfit

1216
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:40,420
and the teenage boy who could not have survived

1217
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:44,420
now he was he was not dressed nicely he was still

1218
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:47,420
yeah he was still ripped up even more so all of them looking

1219
01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:50,420
like they haven't been through anything more strenuous than

1220
01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:53,420
card games around the table made me wonder if this was supposed

1221
01:03:53,420 --> 01:03:56,420
to represent that none of them survived and that was the

1222
01:03:56,420 --> 01:04:00,420
afterlife that's the only way to be rationalized but that's too

1223
01:04:00,420 --> 01:04:03,420
subtle an explanation when everything else took place was

1224
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:07,420
ham-handed nonsense I guess if you just want to watch Tom Cruise run

1225
01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:10,420
through hollering then knock yourself out there there are better

1226
01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:14,420
movies for that really as I write this my advice is that you save

1227
01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:17,420
yourself I feel like my brain is a little damaged by this movie

1228
01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:23,420
yeah brain damage

1229
01:04:28,420 --> 01:04:32,420
from Bill from one star titled Tom Cruise in the most

1230
01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:35,420
unlikable role in his or anybody else's career

1231
01:04:35,420 --> 01:04:43,420
most unlikable role ever I actually I kind of side with that a

1232
01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:48,420
little bit I sympathize I get it not like someone who's playing

1233
01:04:48,420 --> 01:04:51,420
a serial killer or something it's more unlikable you're right

1234
01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:57,420
yes I get in comparison no I yeah it just it's he's so like

1235
01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:06,420
he's a stinker Bill says I actually moved the film to the

1236
01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:09,420
end after watching just 30 minutes why anybody would make a

1237
01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:13,420
divorce man such as show such a little caring for his kids as

1238
01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:16,420
the hero of the film is beyond me so far special effects are

1239
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:19,420
interesting but I'll likely turn it off before it ends because

1240
01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:24,420
I'm already hoping the hero will die soon well and you're already

1241
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:27,420
at the end of the movie because you skipped it isn't that what

1242
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:32,420
he said at the beginning you watch 30 minutes and then went

1243
01:05:32,420 --> 01:05:34,420
right to the end I mean you might as well finish it at that

1244
01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:46,420
point the movie the movie's only 35 minutes long I'm trying to

1245
01:05:46,420 --> 01:05:49,420
watch it in reverse and see if it's any better no I'll report

1246
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:53,420
back none of the characters are making any sense or speaking

1247
01:05:53,420 --> 01:05:56,420
English but the world's a better place at the end that's nice

1248
01:05:56,420 --> 01:06:02,420
that's nice yeah from Leon M. Shondris one star out of five

1249
01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:06,420
titled nothing like the book first off this movie has absolutely

1250
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:09,420
nothing in common with the book with the exception of the

1251
01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:11,420
alien invasion so if you're looking for a good film adaptation

1252
01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:15,420
of a novel this is not the film for you second I would argue

1253
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:19,420
that this film although dark is far happier than the novel

1254
01:06:19,420 --> 01:06:21,420
because most of the major characters live and some aren't

1255
01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:26,420
affected at all as for the film itself it's terrible as a film

1256
01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:28,420
it doesn't make much sense the acting is atrocious and some

1257
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:31,420
of the scenes are pretty gruesome also each of the characters

1258
01:06:31,420 --> 01:06:35,420
are given names in the film which wasn't the case in the book

1259
01:06:35,420 --> 01:06:40,420
oh this guy did not want any names in this movie about the case

1260
01:06:40,420 --> 01:06:42,420
the case the DVD came in was your typical case the colors

1261
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:44,420
were sharp and vibrant but there was a small chip in the

1262
01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:47,420
corner so it either wasn't shipped well or made well hard to

1263
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:54,420
tell which he's just upset about everything he's going to

1264
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:59,420
production line issues man a lot of people complaining about

1265
01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:03,420
the Blu-ray quality and on all Amazon reviews is kind of funny

1266
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:08,420
see if there's maybe one or you see how shitty the CGI is

1267
01:07:08,420 --> 01:07:12,420
it's kind of it's like kind of blurry I like maybe that's it

1268
01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:16,420
yeah that's not good doesn't look good yeah it's I think we're

1269
01:07:16,420 --> 01:07:22,420
pretty much set I would like to move on now to some opinions

1270
01:07:22,420 --> 01:07:27,420
of our own Blarge you are welcome to kick us off if you want

1271
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:32,420
to go first yeah I think as we like kind of discussed it more

1272
01:07:32,420 --> 01:07:36,420
because I was leading I've seen this movie like a lot me too

1273
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:39,420
like I've seen this movie quite a bit I was telling Brandon

1274
01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:42,420
I was like I don't think I'm going to rewatch it just because

1275
01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:47,420
I could probably like shop for shop or site yeah I had this

1276
01:07:47,420 --> 01:07:51,420
idea I watched a lot too I did rewatch it and it had been a

1277
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:54,420
while since I had seen it so it's kind of good to see it and

1278
01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:57,420
it got me a little bit excited like I was kind of at first

1279
01:07:57,420 --> 01:08:00,420
very like that the first 30 minutes I was like kind of on

1280
01:08:00,420 --> 01:08:04,420
board but as you get through the movie you start just finding

1281
01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:09,420
a lot of these like plot holes which kind of then takes its

1282
01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:12,420
toll on the acting right because I'm sure some of the actors

1283
01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:15,420
maybe like had trouble connecting with some characters

1284
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:19,420
like why am I wearing my yeah right which may have translated

1285
01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:22,420
into the audience is like unease especially when it comes to

1286
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:25,420
like Robbie probably because I didn't think maybe the audience

1287
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:30,420
was not a fan of him as much as included because yeah he's

1288
01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:33,420
exactly the only positive side or like the only happy moment

1289
01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:36,420
with him is at the very end every other moment is like he

1290
01:08:36,420 --> 01:08:42,420
pissed and antagonistic towards I did enjoy that moment that he

1291
01:08:42,420 --> 01:08:45,420
has with Dakota Fanning where he's helping her get to her safe

1292
01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:48,420
space I thought that was a good character moment but yeah those

1293
01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:52,420
are so few in far between yeah you see glimpses so I think yeah

1294
01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:55,420
I think I did kind of mention this already that it was it's

1295
01:08:55,420 --> 01:09:00,420
more so about letting Steven Spielberg like you know get

1296
01:09:00,420 --> 01:09:03,420
through his paces and and there was a lot of filler stuff that

1297
01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:06,420
was just getting to really good shot and really good like

1298
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:12,420
cinema right but not good script and not good like story

1299
01:09:12,420 --> 01:09:17,420
and acting so like yeah visually I really do like the movie but

1300
01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:20,420
when it comes down to it in like terms of like actually liking

1301
01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:23,420
a movie I think I'm more like with the audience so I probably

1302
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:27,420
give this one probably a little bit better of a score but I'd

1303
01:09:27,420 --> 01:09:31,420
say I'm like more middle of the road at like a 53 like a 53%

1304
01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:35,420
like I do really enjoy yeah I'm a big Spielberg fan and I

1305
01:09:35,420 --> 01:09:39,420
anything he kind of touches I'm like hey this was movie quality

1306
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:43,420
stuff but yeah they can all be like bangers when it comes to

1307
01:09:43,420 --> 01:09:46,420
script and that can only take you so far you know good cinema

1308
01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:51,420
so yeah I think it's a good enough film but yeah a lot of

1309
01:09:51,420 --> 01:09:55,420
holes in there that kind of let you just fall off so I think a

1310
01:09:55,420 --> 01:10:00,420
53 is a solid I agree that is a yeah perfectly respectable

1311
01:10:00,420 --> 01:10:04,420
score for for this movie Brandon you want to go next

1312
01:10:04,420 --> 01:10:08,420
sure yeah um you know something that resonated with me Mike

1313
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:12,420
and what you were just saying is that you know Steven Spielberg

1314
01:10:12,420 --> 01:10:15,420
going through the paces and I think this is an example of such

1315
01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:19,420
lazy like laziness because you know within comparison to a

1316
01:10:19,420 --> 01:10:23,420
movie that he done you know close encounters of the third

1317
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:28,420
kind there was so much attention paid to and it's also part of

1318
01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:32,420
his style just by and large is like Steven Spielberg likes to

1319
01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:36,420
fill his movies with these like random characters you know that

1320
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:40,420
color of the film and such a like such a wonderful collage of

1321
01:10:40,420 --> 01:10:44,420
society you know loving all of the yeah it's like a stereotype

1322
01:10:44,420 --> 01:10:48,420
to the at this point of these characters that will pop up in

1323
01:10:48,420 --> 01:10:51,420
his movies that maybe have only like a line or two in there but

1324
01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:55,420
they're just you know very unique and yeah provide something

1325
01:10:55,420 --> 01:11:01,420
to either the mood or to the plot and yeah it just blows me

1326
01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:05,420
away that this movie has zero to do with you know another thing

1327
01:11:05,420 --> 01:11:08,420
that resonated with me that you said earlier about the like what

1328
01:11:08,420 --> 01:11:14,420
what what do you think the mission was for the tanks going

1329
01:11:14,420 --> 01:11:17,420
in like what was the conversation there because the way it was

1330
01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:20,420
being presented in the movie is that they're just like well we

1331
01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:23,420
got this shit that blows shit up so we got to go figure it out

1332
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:27,420
that's not how the the military works they're not just going to

1333
01:11:27,420 --> 01:11:30,420
be like let's go blow stuff up first and then figure out if it

1334
01:11:30,420 --> 01:11:35,420
works like that's not how the shit works at all that's not and

1335
01:11:35,420 --> 01:11:39,420
it just you know it's crazy to me how this movie doesn't have

1336
01:11:39,420 --> 01:11:42,420
any like what what's going on with the military or like what's

1337
01:11:42,420 --> 01:11:45,420
going on with the government or you know any interior into the

1338
01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:49,420
greater like collective trying to work through this obviously

1339
01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:56,420
global issue it just comes off to me as being lazy because it

1340
01:11:56,420 --> 01:12:00,420
isn't far simpler way to shoot like from the just the

1341
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:04,420
logistics standpoint to just say no we're going to just focus

1342
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:07,420
on Tom Cruise we're never going to go outside of Tom Cruise

1343
01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:11,420
we're just going to stick with him you know and you can pitch

1344
01:12:11,420 --> 01:12:16,420
it as being kind of interesting like you know so like through

1345
01:12:16,420 --> 01:12:21,420
somebody's eyes so on the ground you know perspective right

1346
01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:25,420
and never really shying away from that and getting to zooming

1347
01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:29,420
out too much and getting lost in the saucer or you know getting

1348
01:12:29,420 --> 01:12:34,420
to a burden by you know how inner workings of geopolitical

1349
01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:38,420
stuff would happen but yeah just I think the movie suffers from

1350
01:12:38,420 --> 01:12:40,420
it because it's just incredibly difficult for me not to be

1351
01:12:40,420 --> 01:12:43,420
like well you made a movie that is near perfect and I'm not

1352
01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:46,420
saying that every outing has to be perfect but there's just so

1353
01:12:46,420 --> 01:12:49,420
much this movie that seems so lazy to me even though that there

1354
01:12:49,420 --> 01:12:53,420
are like really well set pieces it's just there's a lot to it

1355
01:12:53,420 --> 01:12:56,420
though that just seemed that just comes off as like he's not

1356
01:12:56,420 --> 01:13:00,420
really that interested in what he's trying to say and it's just

1357
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:04,420
let's let Tom Cruise do whatever he wants to do and it's going

1358
01:13:04,420 --> 01:13:09,420
to make money and that's all that it kind of needs to be sure

1359
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:14,420
it's it's not yeah at times things don't need to be totally

1360
01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:23,420
saddled up with our burden with having effectively communicating

1361
01:13:23,420 --> 01:13:26,420
interesting point of view sometimes movies can just be fun

1362
01:13:26,420 --> 01:13:30,420
but there's also a lot of stuff in this movie that isn't that fun

1363
01:13:30,420 --> 01:13:36,420
like it's crazy how much of a halt everything comes to in the

1364
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:40,420
basement with Tim Robbins where I you know a lot of my notes was

1365
01:13:40,420 --> 01:13:43,420
like wow this movie is like cranking along and I'm really enjoying

1366
01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:46,420
the fact that this movie is unencumbered to a degree it's

1367
01:13:46,420 --> 01:13:49,420
not cutting to like what's happening at the Pentagon you know

1368
01:13:49,420 --> 01:13:52,420
or some shit like that which could be cool and interesting and

1369
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:54,420
keep the movie cranking along so I don't want to just say that

1370
01:13:54,420 --> 01:13:59,420
you know going outside of Tom Cruise's again out of his purview

1371
01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:02,420
would be would slow the movie down but it's just so crazy how

1372
01:14:02,420 --> 01:14:06,420
this movie has this pace and then it just screeches to a halt

1373
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:10,420
and gets to a point where it's really uninteresting because you

1374
01:14:10,420 --> 01:14:14,420
don't really know these characters and the movie is not even

1375
01:14:14,420 --> 01:14:18,420
spending time to provide you with it like I don't know why

1376
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:22,420
Dakota Fanning would have do you I mean do you guys get a sense

1377
01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:25,420
of like why she would have picked I had to look up this track

1378
01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:29,420
that she was singing to herself hushabye mountain like what it

1379
01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:33,420
oh yeah no like where does that come from like it was just

1380
01:14:33,420 --> 01:14:36,420
I thought it was like a reference to the book or something I have

1381
01:14:36,420 --> 01:14:39,420
no clue what I know but so weird because it's like even in a

1382
01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:42,420
moment where it should be so like let's get into what these

1383
01:14:42,420 --> 01:14:45,420
characters stand for who they are what are their passing all

1384
01:14:45,420 --> 01:14:49,420
that it like it's just a bunch of bullshit jargon about like

1385
01:14:49,420 --> 01:14:53,420
they're up there we're down here let's go get them and it's just

1386
01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:56,420
a lot of that and then it goes right into you know the kind of

1387
01:14:56,420 --> 01:15:00,420
horror element of the snake a light thing was kind of fun

1388
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:04,420
yeah I thought that was fun yeah a little dooscoop yeah

1389
01:15:04,420 --> 01:15:12,420
he would he's just so good like cars it's just every

1390
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:16,420
fiber of his being has to be somehow related to cars

1391
01:15:16,420 --> 01:15:21,420
yeah a little dooscoop yeah so I mean this movie really

1392
01:15:21,420 --> 01:15:25,420
sucks for me at the latter half but I will give it credit that

1393
01:15:25,420 --> 01:15:28,420
the beginning half of it with the sound design for the

1394
01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:33,420
lightning the tension that all the unsettling you know stuff

1395
01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:37,420
with before the tripod like is actually shown on screen I

1396
01:15:37,420 --> 01:15:40,420
thought was really really good it hooks you yeah it hooks you

1397
01:15:40,420 --> 01:15:45,420
hooks you pretty pretty amazing stuff so I yeah I there was

1398
01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:48,420
a part of me that wanted to go pretty low on this because I

1399
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:51,420
just really really didn't like the back half of this movie but

1400
01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:55,420
I mean in talking to you guys and this happens more often than

1401
01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:57,420
not I would say is like after talking to you guys about it

1402
01:15:57,420 --> 01:16:01,420
you know I come around a little bit on it just acknowledging

1403
01:16:01,420 --> 01:16:05,420
it successes a little bit more and building those up so I'm not

1404
01:16:05,420 --> 01:16:08,420
going to give it like a super crazy low score which I kind of

1405
01:16:08,420 --> 01:16:10,420
was feeling going into this because there were parts of

1406
01:16:10,420 --> 01:16:14,420
this movie that I did like but I'm going to go like about a 40

1407
01:16:14,420 --> 01:16:17,420
I want to say 46 but there's a part of me that wants to say

1408
01:16:17,420 --> 01:16:20,420
42 and I think I'm going to go with the lower honestly I'm

1409
01:16:20,420 --> 01:16:28,420
going to go with 42% okay yeah I think this story is something

1410
01:16:28,420 --> 01:16:31,420
that was important to him and it was something that yeah it

1411
01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:34,420
meant a lot to him to do and he wanted to do it in a certain

1412
01:16:34,420 --> 01:16:38,420
way and he was given every license to do whatever he wanted

1413
01:16:38,420 --> 01:16:42,420
I just have to say I think the original like thing is such a

1414
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:46,420
fascinating thing like or the world's like the like Orson

1415
01:16:46,420 --> 01:16:50,420
Orson Wells did the radio thing of of war the world's and the

1416
01:16:50,420 --> 01:16:53,420
people thought it was real and sort of freaking the fuck out

1417
01:16:53,420 --> 01:16:57,420
and I just thought that was cool and maybe I can take this

1418
01:16:57,420 --> 01:17:01,420
time do you and I want to ask you guys a question do you think

1419
01:17:01,420 --> 01:17:06,420
that is possible today can you do a war the world's type event

1420
01:17:06,420 --> 01:17:10,420
in today's world in any sort of medium of communication

1421
01:17:10,420 --> 01:17:13,420
whether it be social media or something like on the internet

1422
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:18,420
can you manufacture an event that doesn't really happen

1423
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:24,420
you can I just I think the like the leg of it that like the

1424
01:17:24,420 --> 01:17:30,420
amount of time before it is very short like I think it still

1425
01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:35,420
could be a fun and effective like marketing tool because

1426
01:17:35,420 --> 01:17:37,420
that's kind of like a way to entertain people is what you're

1427
01:17:37,420 --> 01:17:40,420
getting at right yeah like that's a good way of looking at it

1428
01:17:40,420 --> 01:17:43,420
I was almost thinking yeah like when whoever put it those like

1429
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:46,420
monoliths all over the world and shit and people were wondering

1430
01:17:46,420 --> 01:17:49,420
if the deal was with those yeah that's like actually out there

1431
01:17:49,420 --> 01:17:52,420
I'm trying to think like you hear about something and assume

1432
01:17:52,420 --> 01:17:55,420
it's really happening or something like that absolutely

1433
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:58,420
happens a lot recently like something that comes to mind is

1434
01:17:58,420 --> 01:18:05,420
somebody used AI generating are to make it look like home

1435
01:18:05,420 --> 01:18:09,420
goods was selling satanic statues in it there you go yeah

1436
01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:14,420
which is pretty funny and people just you know because it

1437
01:18:14,420 --> 01:18:17,420
looks so real these statues inside of home goods you know

1438
01:18:17,420 --> 01:18:20,420
immediately hopping online and being like you believe that

1439
01:18:20,420 --> 01:18:24,420
home goods is selling satan statues like man the woke mobs

1440
01:18:24,420 --> 01:18:27,420
really gotten to them or whatever and then people just

1441
01:18:27,420 --> 01:18:30,420
prattle on into oblivion yeah if anything it's almost all over

1442
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:34,420
the place more than ever and yeah anyone else can do it for

1443
01:18:34,420 --> 01:18:39,420
yeah a short amount of time to just enrage people or just

1444
01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:44,420
an idea that's they want to other people to have but I just

1445
01:18:44,420 --> 01:18:48,420
always thought that was like it's for for Orson Wells to be able

1446
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:53,420
to to do that and the effect that it did have and not even

1447
01:18:53,420 --> 01:18:55,420
looking through the history of a little bit today and like

1448
01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:58,420
someone tried it and somewhere in South America and it had

1449
01:18:58,420 --> 01:19:01,420
such an effect that there were riots and like seven people

1450
01:19:01,420 --> 01:19:04,420
the announcers to announce that like a couple of his family

1451
01:19:04,420 --> 01:19:09,420
members died as people freaked out so much and yeah just the

1452
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:13,420
power that that has and the effect that it can can have on

1453
01:19:13,420 --> 01:19:18,420
people I thought was just very fascinating it is I agree but

1454
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:22,420
to move on to my review I think it was worth talking about this

1455
01:19:22,420 --> 01:19:25,420
movie for something that I'd seen a lot and then hasn't

1456
01:19:25,420 --> 01:19:28,420
seen in a while very much like you guys are expressing and

1457
01:19:28,420 --> 01:19:33,420
revisiting at this time the things that stuck out to me yeah

1458
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:36,420
we're definitely the Tim Robbins thing and then how it comes

1459
01:19:36,420 --> 01:19:41,420
together at the end were the glaring things that I I had

1460
01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:46,420
thought I had misremembered and realize that's essentially how

1461
01:19:46,420 --> 01:19:49,420
it goes is it's just is wrapped up with that narration which

1462
01:19:49,420 --> 01:19:54,420
is just so short change to the audience and not effective at

1463
01:19:54,420 --> 01:19:58,420
all and if it didn't have those bookends like this movie would

1464
01:19:58,420 --> 01:20:03,420
be incomplete and that's feels kind of icky because it's like

1465
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:06,420
that you should be able to tell the whole story without just

1466
01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:09,420
removing this one like one little like 30 second like blur

1467
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:12,420
of just like oh and then this is how it happened okay see you

1468
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:17,420
later by really affects you know your your mood walking out

1469
01:20:17,420 --> 01:20:20,420
of the movie I can understand a little bit more from from the

1470
01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:23,420
audience side like we're trying to figure out the the different

1471
01:20:23,420 --> 01:20:27,420
different points of it all disaster movies in general not

1472
01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:31,420
really my thing not really my bag baby so that's definitely

1473
01:20:31,420 --> 01:20:33,420
gonna like lose some points from like even from a subjective

1474
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:37,420
side of things like it's just not something that I'm I'm

1475
01:20:37,420 --> 01:20:40,420
looking to watch and I haven't rewatched the movie in a while

1476
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:45,420
because of that yeah beginning I love the the lead up to it

1477
01:20:45,420 --> 01:20:48,420
even with like Jurassic Park and stuff like all of the build

1478
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:52,420
up to Jurassic Park and everything getting to the

1479
01:20:52,420 --> 01:20:55,420
dinosaurs and you're getting to when it actually reveals

1480
01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:58,420
everything is like a Spielberg trick that is always very

1481
01:20:58,420 --> 01:21:03,420
sometimes more effective than others but I think that he is a

1482
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:08,420
master of tension in this movie it still entertains me in a

1483
01:21:08,420 --> 01:21:13,420
lot of ways when a type of this disaster porn movie like this

1484
01:21:13,420 --> 01:21:18,420
movie like wouldn't really do in a lot of other ways but it is

1485
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:22,420
just depressing and and and down like when they steal a car

1486
01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:26,420
and then everyone's like you know he steals in the night guy

1487
01:21:26,420 --> 01:21:28,420
gets shot and everything they're sitting in the diner I just

1488
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:32,420
remember thinking like man this is just rough and then the

1489
01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:35,420
train on fire goes by and then the thing on the ferry and then

1490
01:21:35,420 --> 01:21:37,420
the but the boat gets taken over and they're just looking at

1491
01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:40,420
from the hillside everything everybody just can mess up it's

1492
01:21:40,420 --> 01:21:44,420
like it's effective in what it's trying to do but it's also a

1493
01:21:44,420 --> 01:21:48,420
bit of a counter of a movie like you just you feel like kind of

1494
01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:52,420
down and then the moment when you feel like you I don't know

1495
01:21:52,420 --> 01:21:57,420
there's some sort of triumph isn't really earned so on the

1496
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:04,420
surface I think it does effectively does what a director

1497
01:22:04,420 --> 01:22:08,420
in a lot of ways should do for the substance of the screenplay

1498
01:22:08,420 --> 01:22:12,420
and where Spielberg's mind was at that time I think affected

1499
01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:15,420
the way that that too just doesn't hold up as well as some of

1500
01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:18,420
his other movies even namely being like Minority Report

1501
01:22:18,420 --> 01:22:23,420
which came out at a similar time which is yeah it's kind of

1502
01:22:23,420 --> 01:22:26,420
scythe he's in the neck AI I guess was kind of another scythe

1503
01:22:26,420 --> 01:22:31,420
movie around this time and it's just not something that I would

1504
01:22:31,420 --> 01:22:37,420
revisit again and again anytime soon I'm feeling very like Luke

1505
01:22:37,420 --> 01:22:46,420
is warm on it but I'll I'll go I'll go 56 I'll do 56 it's so

1506
01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:53,420
like you know pretty like man but I commend the build up and

1507
01:22:53,420 --> 01:22:57,420
the action and the ability to still remain entertaining and to

1508
01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,420
ride the line between tonal shifts and some of the humor I

1509
01:23:00,420 --> 01:23:05,420
think is like pretty pretty well done which is I think can be

1510
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:08,420
a good thing to do sometimes is instilling that that humor is

1511
01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:11,420
weird and dysfunctional as it is with the family of the

1512
01:23:11,420 --> 01:23:15,420
overall the yeah I don't know Tom Cruise is a blue collar guy

1513
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:18,420
whatever but I think he's he's just electric on screen I don't

1514
01:23:18,420 --> 01:23:21,420
know like whatever about whatever about the guy he's he's

1515
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:24,420
you know weird dude but he's electric on screen and Dakota

1516
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:31,420
Fanning and a good performance. Yeah, and then yeah I just

1517
01:23:31,420 --> 01:23:35,420
want to play a quick game of magnetize if you if you guys

1518
01:23:35,420 --> 01:23:39,420
want to jump into I think there's a couple movies that we

1519
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:44,420
have not I'm not thrown out to you yet so let's get into a

1520
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:47,420
little a little game if you guys haven't played or played or

1521
01:23:47,420 --> 01:23:51,420
heard you out there haven't heard of this game before I'm

1522
01:23:51,420 --> 01:23:54,420
going to give these guys movies that have the exact same

1523
01:23:54,420 --> 01:23:57,420
rating from audiences and critics on rotten tomatoes as

1524
01:23:57,420 --> 01:24:00,420
opposed to polarized or magnetized they were the same

1525
01:24:00,420 --> 01:24:05,420
score. They they have to figure out what the score is for

1526
01:24:05,420 --> 01:24:08,420
these movies that I'm going to give them so the first one

1527
01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:12,420
will go to our guest. We will start with another Spielberg

1528
01:24:12,420 --> 01:24:18,420
picture Jurassic Park. Same score from audiences. You're

1529
01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:22,420
picking one one pick a number and then they're close. It's

1530
01:24:22,420 --> 01:24:25,420
either a really good score or a really bad score right. It's

1531
01:24:25,420 --> 01:24:27,420
up to you it's just going to be the same from audience and

1532
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:30,420
critics so whatever you think what do you think they both

1533
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:35,420
agreed upon score Jurassic Park. So Jurassic Park is going to

1534
01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:38,420
be a ninety one ninety three percent we're going to go ninety

1535
01:24:38,420 --> 01:24:43,420
three percent ninety three okay I'm going to go ninety eight

1536
01:24:43,420 --> 01:24:48,420
ninety eight and I'm not doing prices right rules so it is

1537
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:51,420
a ninety one Mike you freak me out because I'm like you said

1538
01:24:51,420 --> 01:24:57,420
you got to go with your gut. It was a ninety one so you take

1539
01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:04,420
the first first first point here moving on to round two we're

1540
01:25:04,420 --> 01:25:12,420
going to go with a movie called Glass Onion a Knives Out

1541
01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:15,420
Mystery is that how it's a glass and a knife out mystery

1542
01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:23,420
yeah. More recent movie to you. I go yeah it was knives out

1543
01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:26,420
and then Glass Onion correct knives out and then Glass

1544
01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:29,420
Onion. It's the second one. It's just a glass onion. Okay.

1545
01:25:29,420 --> 01:25:34,420
Knives out or glass onion. I'm going first or Bardini is

1546
01:25:34,420 --> 01:25:43,420
Bardini. Oh my bad. The Rizzler. The Rizzler.

1547
01:25:43,420 --> 01:25:46,420
The Rizzler. The Rizzler. The Rizzler. The Rizzler.

1548
01:25:46,420 --> 01:25:49,420
The Rizzler. The Rizzler. The Rizzler. The Rizzler.

1549
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:52,420
Okay. See I was going to go way lower but then you said

1550
01:25:52,420 --> 01:25:57,420
eighty one. I'm going to go with seventy four seventy four

1551
01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:03,420
it is a ninety two percent for really higher than Jurassic

1552
01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:08,420
Park. Higher than Jurassic Park kind of work one out one out

1553
01:26:08,420 --> 01:26:12,420
people love the drama they love the drama love it they love

1554
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:17,420
it they love a mystery. It's more run tomato scores maybe

1555
01:26:17,420 --> 01:26:20,420
at this time too but I am still people I thought for sure

1556
01:26:20,420 --> 01:26:24,420
the first one was better but okay. Yeah I like the first one

1557
01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:29,420
more than the second. Well let's move on to our final round.

1558
01:26:29,420 --> 01:26:32,420
This is for for all the marbles. I have this jar of marbles

1559
01:26:32,420 --> 01:26:37,420
that you guys one of you will be taking home. It is a very

1560
01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:40,420
new movie. I hope you have at least heard of it. It's

1561
01:26:40,420 --> 01:26:44,420
Ari Astor's newest film I have not seen but let's see if we

1562
01:26:44,420 --> 01:26:50,420
can guess it. It's magnetized. Bo was afraid. Bo was afraid.

1563
01:26:50,420 --> 01:26:56,420
Okay. Wow. Bo was afraid to large. Okay. Are you aware of

1564
01:26:56,420 --> 01:27:00,420
this movie. Yeah this is what is I forget I'm blanking on the

1565
01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:04,420
actors. Yeah. Walking Phoenix. Thank you. Ari Astor is the guy

1566
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:11,420
who's doing everything right now. Napoleon. Okay. Who's the

1567
01:27:11,420 --> 01:27:16,420
director of this movie. Ari Astor. Ari Astor. Okay.

1568
01:27:16,420 --> 01:27:21,420
Redditary right. Mid summer. Mid summer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1569
01:27:21,420 --> 01:27:24,420
Yeah. This is why this name does not ring a bell because I

1570
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:32,420
have purposely erased it. Remember. Bo was afraid. Okay.

1571
01:27:32,420 --> 01:27:35,420
I'm afraid of the summer. I'm literally trembling as I'm

1572
01:27:35,420 --> 01:27:39,420
thinking. You got this. Bo is afraid. I'm gonna say this is

1573
01:27:39,420 --> 01:27:51,420
84 percent. 84. Okay. I'm gonna go 72. 72. It is a 70. So it

1574
01:27:51,420 --> 01:27:56,420
will go to Bardin. It's the marbles. Gets all the marbles.

1575
01:27:56,420 --> 01:28:00,420
Here you go. I've been looking for some marbles. You lost them.

1576
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:08,420
Yes. Seize the day. I appreciate you guys joining me for

1577
01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:12,420
yet another journey into the polarized verse where we talk

1578
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:16,420
about polarizing movies where we will be doing again next time.

1579
01:28:16,420 --> 01:28:22,420
We're talking about a sequel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1580
01:28:22,420 --> 01:28:27,420
Kisses to give your kisses to Blargy. We appreciate you man.

1581
01:28:27,420 --> 01:28:31,420
Anytime we go and blast off into space again or underground

1582
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:35,420
we'll make sure we give you a call for underground. Let's do it.

1583
01:28:35,420 --> 01:28:43,420
Let's do it. Hell yeah. For next time it will be bad boys too.

1584
01:28:43,420 --> 01:28:50,420
From 2003 it is a 23 percent from critics. It is a 78 percent

1585
01:28:50,420 --> 01:28:54,420
from audience favored heavily by the audience. I'll read the

1586
01:28:54,420 --> 01:28:59,420
movie info here on Rotten Tomatoes. The drug ecstasy is flowing

1587
01:28:59,420 --> 01:29:03,420
into Miami and the police want it stopped. Police detective

1588
01:29:03,420 --> 01:29:07,420
Marcus Burnett, Martin Lawrence and his partner Mike Lowry,

1589
01:29:07,420 --> 01:29:11,420
Will Smith are just the men to do it. They track the drugs to a

1590
01:29:11,420 --> 01:29:16,420
Cuban smuggler Johnny Tapia who is also involved in a bloody

1591
01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:19,420
war with Russian and Haitian mobsters. If that isn't bad enough

1592
01:29:19,420 --> 01:29:23,420
there's tension between the two cops because Lowry is romantically

1593
01:29:23,420 --> 01:29:28,420
involved with Burnett's sister. Oh yeah. Gabrielle Union.

1594
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:34,420
Join us please for another journey into Michael Bayverse.

1595
01:29:34,420 --> 01:29:39,420
I have been James the James the forever guest. This has been

1596
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:44,420
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1597
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1598
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about the Max Martin Swedish producer who's created many pop

1599
01:29:55,420 --> 01:30:00,420
hits and we've done a few quite a few. We've done like five

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episodes so far. Pretty new. We just talked about music producers

1601
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and their history and their effects on us and pop culture.

1602
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1603
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Bye bye.