Chelsea, this week's intro is actually kind of a follow-up on my previous episode.
Not per se anything that's like from that episode, it's just more on the why lawns and
lawn adjacent things are kind of shit.
This comes from The Guardian.
It was posted on March 10th, 2023 and written by Tom Perkins.
Title, artificial turf potentially linked to cancer deaths of six Phillies baseball
players.
Report.
What?
The link between a rare brain cancer that killed six professional US baseball players
and toxic chemicals in artificial turf is raising a new round of questions over whether
synthetic sport fields pose a health threat to athletes and others who use them.
The six athletes who all died from glioblastoma played most of their career with the Philadelphia
Phillies, a team that for decades competed on artificial turf in veteran stadiums, the
Philadelphia Inquirer reported.
All artificial turf is made with toxic PFOS compounds, something that we've heard about
many a time as a forever chemical.
Yeah, it sounds familiar.
And some types are still produced with recycled tires that can contain heavy metals, benzene,
volatile organic compounds and other carcinogens.
And a growing number of US municipalities and states have outright banned or proposed banning
them.
The Phillies players deaths are more evidence that regulators need to prohibit synthetic
fields said Kyla Bennett, a former environmental protection agency scientist, now with the
public employees for environmental responsibility nonprofit.
Quote, there is a high number of Philadelphia Phillies diagnosed with this rare cancer and
it looks weird.
So that should be a red flag.
We don't know what those chemicals are doing to us.
What happened to exercise and caution when we're talking about human health?
End quote.
Great question.
However, all brain cancer experts who have spoken with the Guardian or were quoted in
previous stories on the Phillies deaths cautioned that it is impossible to prove all the ball
players cancers were caused by PFOS from the turf.
This is a quote from a neuro oncologist that they're talked to.
The bottom line is anything in the world is possible.
But what's plausible and provable are totally different things said Henry Friedman, a neuro
oncologist at Duke University who treated two of the players.
Quote, there is no way to now say if these chemicals are there, they are causing the
tumors.
End quote.
The federal government estimates about 12,000 synthetic turf fields exist in the US and
at least 1200 more are installed annually.
Only five professional baseball players still use synthetic fields, the inquire reported.
Several layers comprise synthetic fields, plastic grass blades, plastic backings that
hold the blades in place and infills that weigh down the turf.
Until recently, infill was always made with recycled rubber tires called crumb rubber,
which EPA testing has found contains high levels of dangerous chemicals, which we've
actually talked about in another episode before.
Yeah, so many things coming up.
PFOS can be ingested, inhaled and absorbed through the skin or even enter the body through
open wounds.
The Elise Ball players competed on artificial turf between 1971 and 2003 and six former
Phillies died in their 40s and 50s, about three times the rate of the adult male general
population.
But researchers noted that the age group in which they died is at higher risk for the
disease and that could skew the results.
Experts have said other factors could contribute like pesticides used on grass fields, chewing
tobacco or drug use or concussions.
It seems weird that concussions would lead to cancer, but it does seem weird.
I don't know, I'm not an oncologist, so I can't tell you.
I think that's enough of that article.
Chelsea, anything you want to say?
No, so that just proves, well, yes, I guess I could add some stuff into this.
No, you're refusing.
You seem to see a few things.
I mean, it just goes to show that maybe they should be playing on a bed of flowers would
be safer for them.
And they bring up smoking and stuff like that.
But with smoking, that's a decision that you're making when it's artificial turf and
it's your job to be playing on something like that.
It's causing.
You could also say that nobody forced them to make millions of dollars playing baseball,
but I think that's a shitty argument, though, especially when you know kids also play on
these fields.
It's true.
And also when you get hurt on the job, too, that's like nobody forced them to do that
thing that was making me for their livelihood.
And I personally have not heard a solid argument that just turning the field into a forest
and or bettos wouldn't drastically improve the sport of baseball.
I think it would.
I would be more intrigued.
I can't say I would watch it still, but more intrigued I would be.
And that's what I had to add.
And with that, we can go right into this episode.
From the unexplained to the mundane.
Come join us on a journey to the fringe.
Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, the podcast that journeys through the fringe.
Maybe one day we could do a podcast called Return from the Fringe and really complete
that loop.
But for now, we just kind of drop you guys off and say, see you.
We are your neglectful tour guides and podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea.
And today, Chelsea appears to have found an asshole of the UFO community.
Chelsea, am I correct in one?
Okay, perfect.
You're correct.
I always love a good asshole.
Please don't take that out of context, anybody.
And I am going into this blind because I have no idea who this guy is.
And I wonder, I have a feeling I know what a return from the fringe would look like,
but I really like to see it come to life.
But today I'm excited because I did find just on a whim in Reddit.
I totally forgot this guy existed.
I know Taylor says he has no idea who this guy is, but I'm about to prove him wrong because
he does know who it is.
And this guy, he won't let us down on our asshole.
Do you call it?
I'm coming to the fringe of a vast whole episodes, I guess.
This person is Stanley Romanek.
The person I'm going to talk about is quotation, the centerpiece of the most documented extraterrestrial
contact story in the world and the multitude of evidence he has collected over the 13 years
challenges conventional beliefs and quote.
And that quote I just read to you comes from his documentary.
It's the first quote that flashes across the scene, followed by many more.
Does it say who said it?
No.
Just this guy.
If it's unaccredited, I just kind of hope it's David Wilcock, but you know he would
never let his name go unaccredited.
It didn't say physicist.
True.
So, I would also hope this is David Wilcock, but I'm going to talk about this documentary.
David Wilcock does not show his face in it.
So there's also two more unnecessary minutes of more quotes, but I'm not going to bore
you with that at this time.
You have any guesses at this point?
Who he is?
The 13 years biggest UFO thing in history.
Most evidence.
Challenges conventional beliefs.
His name as far as I know is not associated with, oh what's the one in Britain?
Like the two big ones I think of is Roswell, which isn't that great at the end of the day.
And what's the name of the forest?
Rendlesham.
Rendlesham Forest.
Not even close.
Do you recognize the name?
No.
Okay, so just based on that quote, I wouldn't have any idea either.
So let me just go post this general.
Do you want it?
Sure.
About to blow your mind who I'm talking about.
You know, look at this and you're going to know exactly.
So have you ever seen the infamous great...
Oh god, yes, I know exactly.
No video.
Affectionately known as the Boo video.
Yep.
That, my friends, is Stanley Romanek.
Oh, this is going to be a good one.
Okay, so that's who we're talking about, this guy.
Wait, did you know he's an asshole?
Do you think he's going to be an asshole?
I suspect mostly because we've already kind of preordained him.
It's true we did.
I heavily influenced that thought.
And we are very impartial podcasts.
Clearly the guy's an asshole.
We mostly only do assholes.
That's our only interest, as we said, going into this.
So after a quick Google search to see what was up with Stanley, I have to put it out
there right now that this Stanley is not to be confused with this other Stanley on Instagram,
who also goes by Stan Romanek, that's his name, he doesn't just go by it, who is Carpenter
slash owner at level home improvements.
He goes on to say in his Instagram bio, I'm not the guy that was abducted by aliens, so
stop frame requesting me, you lunatics.
I'm just putting that out there at this time.
Can we interview that guy?
I'm sure he has some good stories just on now.
I didn't even try based on his intro on his Instagram.
Okay.
The Stanley we're talking about is not Carpenter owner.
He is Stanley Tiger Romanek.
I'm not even shitting you.
And as an alien experiencer, I think that's how you would describe it.
He has many claims starting in the year 2000, which this is how his encounters start.
December 27, 2000, the first UFO seen by Stan was in the daytime at the location of El
Alameda and Jewel in West Denver, Brackets Lakewood.
I don't even know if that's relevant.
When first observed, he says it was about 53 from Stan's car.
I don't know why he's talking in the third person.
Maybe there's another Stan.
Maybe it was Carpenter owner Stan.
Before they're falling out.
Directly above the level of power lines along the side of the road was keeping pace just
ahead of my moving car at about 40 miles per hour in the air at a slight angle forward.
Approximate size was that of a minivan.
I slowed then stopped my car as did other cars and their drivers observing this object.
After a few moments, the object instantly popped to a higher height several feet up
causing an intense sonic boom that was felt on my.
That was felt on my.
Can we go back?
It moved several feet or several hundred feet?
I missed 100 several hundred.
Okay, that makes much worse.
Sorry about that.
Carpenter in the 10th.
I just for the life of me, I could not see a sonic boom coming from three feet of movement
and him just being like, oh yeah, that's gonna sonic boom.
It moves so freaking fast.
Okay, but here's how he knows it was a sonic boom because he felt it on his clothes and
his body.
Other than the sonic pop, the object made absolutely no sound.
At this point, the camera was ready to film and the video was taken.
So what else happens to Stanley Tiger Romanek?
That would make him an official experiencer to the lengths that we read on the quote.
Well, he felt it in his clothes.
Isn't that enough?
Yeah, exactly.
He felt the whole being of being an experiencer.
The core of his clothes.
But let's talk about what else makes him a diabolical experiencer.
So he frequently witnesses UAPs, apparently extremely frequently, like all the time.
The odds are so slim that he wouldn't be experiencing them this often, but he does.
Abduction experiences.
So this includes aliens following his car, visiting his home.
One account, he woke up wearing a ladies flannel nightgown.
Okay, and this one gets weirder.
Okay, so obviously he was abducted and the clothes were confused with other abductees.
Obviously there's no other answer than they definitely belong to Betty Hill.
But the DNA tests were too expensive to prove they were Betty Hill.
We just have to assume.
Yeah, we're assuming we're just trusting Stanley Tiger Romanek at this point.
I quite like that fact.
We're not even like into this yet.
No, we got that little tidbit.
Chelsea, I feel fairly confident about at least the Betty and Bernie Hill abduction.
I don't remember a single part of it where Betty awakens naked or wearing somebody's
previous clothes.
No, you don't.
Or being abducted in the night.
No, he's stretching it at this point.
At this point, this is beginning.
I don't know if he's trying to lend some credibility to himself, but this is only the first thing
it goes on.
So it goes on.
What else makes him a diabolical experiencer?
Well, of course, being implanted with alien artifacts, having sustained multiple mysterious
injuries inflicted by aliens and some of these implants glowed under black light.
He was an experiencer of not only telepathic communications with aliens, but also received
communications through a ghost box and voicemails.
So in his ghost inbox, in his regular voicemail on his phone.
Okay.
And a ghost box is one of those things that it just goes through different radio frequencies.
Oh, yeah.
And it's basically just static, but every now and then has little ticks.
And I'm not sure the science behind how they think that it works to communicate with ghosts
and stuff like that.
That's how he says he was receiving communication with extraterrestrials as well.
We also have that he is the offspring of an alien human hybrid.
I need to assume at this point he didn't pay for the DNA test.
Because they're crazy on that one too.
Yeah, no, everything that comes with the cost is pretty much too crazy for him to prove
anything.
We've just got to kind of make some assumptions.
There's only so much money to go around.
We're putting our full faith in Stanley Tiger Romanek right now.
Poor Stanley Tiger Romanek.
Yeah, he doesn't have that much money.
This quote comes right from the Coast to Coast A.F. website for Stanley's bio.
He says he's also found strange scoop marks on his body a number of times.
I don't even know what the fuck that means.
Like an ice cream bucket.
Yeah, like I'm just picturing what that would look like on his body if it was like an ice
cream scoop.
I'd be concerned about bleeding out at that point.
What else do you scoop?
I don't know.
Like the only thing I can even think of is ice cream or mashed potatoes and you're going
to do the exact same thing.
But it's not the weirdest thing in this bio that makes him an experiencer.
And then my last point here is what makes him such a famous experiencer.
After working with therapist Deborah Lindemann, he retrieved memories of encounters with humanoid
like beings that he calls the paw some people.
He described them as having huge eyes, straightly hair and long faces.
They showed him visions of catastrophic earth events that include 600 miles per hour winds
and major explosions, which he was told would occur in December of this year.
Not sure what year that was, but let's just assume that that is coming on.
That year is not 2023.
Gotcha.
Yeah, it's not 2023 for sure.
So it has become painstakingly clear through the journey I've taken that the big thing
about Stan is that he can't corroborate a single fucking thing that he claims.
Starting with at least in this episode that he woke up wearing Bitty Hills night care.
I love that one.
But he does, however, have this documentary called Extraordinary, Extraordinary, the
Stan Roman X story.
And Extraordinary it is.
The DVD gives this movie a magnificent and excessive 3.8 out of 10 and I watched it.
Well, I watched about three quarters of it.
It just becomes unwatchable by the end of it and by the beginning.
So you're welcome because you do owe me a thank you for enduring that.
And let me just summarize some of the weird ass things in this documentary that I would
characterize as complete fiction.
This literally covers pretty much every paranormal aspect you could think of.
You got aliens, ghosts, orbs, shadow people, math, voicemails, documentaries with Stanley
Tiger Roman out talking.
It's so god awful.
Like incredibly shaky home video footage for the first half with literally no talking other
than Stan on these shitty videos.
And what we do get are quotes that you have to read between flashes of like really crappy
photographs and videos of what you assume to be a compilation of just bullet points
of all this like incredible proof that he has written out and they just like will randomly
flash across the screen like he witnessed all these UFOs and stuff like this with these
video footages that don't prove anything at all.
I also just want to point out that literally all the videos and photos are so shitty they
don't prove a fucking thing.
Some are quite obviously fake.
There's have absolutely no form of reference to what you're looking at or hearing.
Some are literally just a black screen with conversation in which I would assume either
was made illegally or staged.
It would have to be.
There's no other context for what they're talking about.
Like at one point he's saying that there's a UFO.
He woke up outside and he was abducted by a UFO and it's quite literally it just looks
like a flashlight flashing into some bushes.
I'm not even kidding you.
So this is like Blair Witch Project level of special effects.
It is and I think I make reference to that as well.
Everything that he shows in these videos are things that have no reference and can easily
be faked and it's like I can't remember when the documentary came out but it's not even
like good it's not done with effects.
Like this would all have to be like things that you just were creative enough to try
and fake on your own.
We have equations with literally no explanation given of said equations.
They just like kind of flash across the screen at some point.
In my mind that's to show his sanity.
That's what you want to do in a documentary like this.
Yeah and the bullet point says that the aliens gave him this.
It's really just random numbers and at one point the Drake equation comes onto the screen
and the bullet point on this one says that this is the Drake equation except Stan multiplies
it by 100.
So there's that.
Now it's the Stan equation.
Yeah.
Because he tweaked it.
I don't know if someone is supposed to be like this gotta be real now.
He multiplies it by 100.
I can't believe we skipped over that in the Drake equation episode.
We did miss this.
We missed that huge step for mankind.
The Stanley Tiger Romanuk out for us.
The documentary also has random photos of UFOs with dates written across them at the
bottom.
Many more photos and video footage in which you have absolutely no idea what you're looking
at.
A lot of these UFOs there are some that you're like okay that could maybe be UFOs.
Some of it's obviously not a UFO.
Every single video and most photos are presented in a way that prove absolutely nothing kind
of like I said and without the bullet point flashing across the screen that shared the
encounter or proof you would have no idea what you're looking at.
We move on to paranormal investigators inside the house doing EVPs which are just like computer
voices saying things.
Photos of shadow people and I say that with quotes because most of them are just clearly
someone standing in front of the flash of a camera.
There's photos of Stan roughed up with bleeding noses.
This actually comes up again because we see the same photos reused in the documentary
for another part that I'm going to talk about and it actually gets quite hilarious because
he starts walking in circles and using the same information for different circumstances
where he needs it to fit.
Then he literally has photos of his computer typed out that say you can't hide on it.
So this is what I mean by you have no proof that this is an actual threat from somebody.
Nobody could do that.
It has to be someone who broke into his house and threatened him.
Absolutely not proof of anything.
Photos of melted drugs which the aliens melted for some reason.
Prescription.
Why are they such addicted drugs?
I know.
It's not like you know.
Turns out the real assholes were the aliens the whole time.
I should have just done that for the episode.
Then we get some voicemails.
A woman robot voice just saying someone is surveilling him but they can't tell him who
they are calling him a star seed.
Now what I'm wondering by the point this is happening this all seems so randomly put
together.
Yes.
It does seem randomly thrown together in the documentary as well.
But at this point when he's getting random voicemails from these aliens and they're
calling him star seed what I'm wondering is what the fuck would these things theoretically
want with this guy.
Because he kinda seems like an idiot.
Yeah outside of his claim to fame in the UFO community like where does his money come
from.
No idea.
In this documentary you don't really hear from him at this point in regards to anything.
At this point in my opinion I'm like what do they see in this idiot.
The whole documentary all we've heard him say in these videos so far is like what is
that.
I passed out.
What the hell is that.
Holy shit.
And so on.
Because he's shocked at what he's seeing.
So he doesn't seem so extraordinary to me.
You think he would be like normalized to at this point.
Yeah and he never stops being shocked by it while it's been happening for so long.
So at this point I'm like hmm I don't know they seem to have some sort of very big interest
in him as if they want something from him.
If they're sticking around him this much and harassing him by voicemail and also he's
receiving these threats on his computer.
Then all of a sudden there are children contacting Stan.
Weird giving what we find out later in this episode.
That's enough foreshadowing at this point.
But at one point Stan is outside taking a photo of a cat.
We see these photos.
There's a cat like running around the yard.
And there's a bullet point that says a kid jumps out from behind the barbecue.
And sure enough the next photo that pops up is a very poorly photoshopped giant head
of a child.
It is so obviously photoshopped behind the barbecue.
Added to the photo obviously at a later date.
It's very obviously not in the actual photo.
It's not even to scale with what you would think a child's head would be in there.
Maybe it's just a really tiny barbecue.
You don't know.
It could be or just an extremely like a child with elephantitis or something.
Yeah.
Oh what's the name of that where they have water in the head?
Hydro something.
Yeah it would have to be water.
Hydrocephalus?
I can't remember.
That sounds like it could be right but I don't know.
But it's literally just an abnormally large child's head behind the barbecue.
Like behind pegs of the deck.
Really weird.
Okay so you get the gist of the encounters here.
They're random.
They make no sense.
We're trying to make sense of what's going on in this documentary.
About halfway through we get to another part of the episode which I wasn't expecting.
And it's the interviews.
It's called macrocephaly just in case people work here.
Okay we were wondering.
We get to the interviews.
So the interviews start off with like a bunch of random people.
You have no idea who they are.
You Stanley.
They're just explaining who Stanley is.
Like randomly one person was like regular guy, he wears shorts and socks and a shirt.
Another guy comes on and he says answered questions quickly, appropriately.
It was impressed.
Literally that's all he said.
And then it goes to the next guy.
So then finally we get to hear from Stanley himself.
And now I'm going to say right here that these are Stanley's words describing his life.
Not mine.
It's not mix this up.
I am not paraphrasing or anything.
I'm letting you know right from Stanley's mouth.
And this is where it gets very good because now we're like okay maybe we're going to
get some context for what the fuck's going on.
And it's actually going to make sense at this point.
Yes.
Exactly.
And since it does start to make sense because we get to hear from Stanley.
And it does all start to come together in a very different way.
It really does.
Stanley comes on and says he grew up at severe dyslexia and he goes on to say quote Stanley's
words I'm going to tell you one more time.
Quote I was always put in special ed classes with the retarded kids and quote.
Now for reference this documentary was made in 2013.
There we go.
10 years ago.
It's not like this was so long ago that this was a totally appropriate thing to say.
So then he goes on to say literally in the next breath quote I had gang members around
me all the time because of the neighborhood we lived in the crypts on one side the bloods
on the other and they were constantly fighting amongst themselves and I was always you know
stab wounds and stuff like that.
I was always caught in crossfires and quote.
Chelsea this feels like an awkward question to ask but is Stanley white.
Yes.
Okay.
How did you know?
Shot in the dark.
At this point I'm like okay.
What?
So then it goes on there's more quotes here that I wrote down.
So quote again.
Requote they used to pick on me a lot because number one I was the only white kid.
Oh that would answer your question immediately.
Because they stabbed them.
Yeah.
By picking on they stabbed them.
God.
Number two I had a learning disability and I had to learn to fight because of it.
He beat me up and so I had to beat everybody else including the principal.
Wait.
I'm not high school I went to.
So end quote.
This is supposed to tell us in his own words who he is or to bring everything together.
I'm not really sure.
My boy is he telling it.
He is saying stuff.
I have no reason to not believe some of this.
Now at this point I'm still wondering what the fuck do these aliens see in Stanley.
They wanted to stab him.
They took scoops out.
He's got a stabbable face is what I'm gathering.
Okay.
Holy shit.
There is some.
Okay.
It goes on.
So we're privy to some hypnotherapy sessions done by Deborah Lindemann.
Remove on which he talks about his alien hybrid babies that he has.
At one point Stan claims to have been riding his bike to work when he was confronted by
a van full of four obviously paramilitary quote quotes men who intend to intimidate him into
silence.
A fight breaks out and Stan not only says now that he grew up in southwest Denver so
he knew how to fight a little bit.
After his fucking crazy story about the crypts and the bloods and then he goes on to describe
his sweet fighting moves including how he used a bicycle chain as a weapon that allowed
him to easily dispatch his attackers before they flee.
So like I said earlier he uses like five minutes later he tells a story that completely
contradicts the other one that he told.
And then we see the same pictures flash across the screen of when he said the aliens abducted
him and like people were out to get him and stuff.
We see him with like black eyes and stuff.
We see those same pictures again flash across the screen for this encounter.
I don't know if he thinks we're idiots watching the documentary or what's going on at this
point but that's a fucking enough of this shit.
That's the documentary.
Wow.
I know.
Um I have to say at this point he seems of the assholes we've talked about the one I
want to meet the least just because with all the rest of them I'm fairly certain on their
fighting ability.
This guy I've got no idea.
It might be really good.
It might be terrible.
I would like to just read some user reviews from the IMDB about this documentary.
One out of ten a disturbed individual.
One out of ten unintentional comedy goals.
One out of ten.
This generation's the rub.
A cry for help.
One out of ten good grief star seat.
One out of ten I've never laughed so hard.
One out of ten total waste of time.
One out of ten obviously a scam.
One out of ten horrible stand should be ashamed.
One out of ten this is a documentary.
Ten out of ten the Stanley Romanette comedy.
One out of ten this is embarrassing.
Who cares.
If you already believe then go ahead if not this won't be the one to change your mind.
One out of ten oh dear.
Okay so you get the gist but let's move on.
Let's talk about the boo video that I showed Taylor but not you.
Let's talk about it.
So not only did this video make its rounds around the internet it was super famous.
If you see it you know what we're talking about.
So it does also appear in this documentary because of course it does.
Why wouldn't it?
The whole documentary is a smathering of poorly recorded videos so the boo video in
all of its glory just makes sense.
I'm going to describe to you the video.
July 2003 Stan claims he was having trouble with peeping toms.
So he decides to set up a camera facing out the popular peep show window to see what was
going on see if he could capture the peepers.
Now get this within minutes of turning the camera on we see what appears to be a grey
alien peer in the window.
It just pops up.
Then the grey alien ducks down either having seen movement in the house or spotting the
camera.
Yeah said oh shit a camera.
Yeah and then he rises again peering through the window.
This catches Stan's attention or something and Stan comes over and the alien ducks down
out of sight again and Stan looks down at the window and seems startled I think a little.
Notice the video in a nutshell but what you don't see in any of these videos is what we
see later after the video in the documentary in the expanded director's cut I guess.
This is where we see the same boo who I'm assuming is the grey maybe we named him boo.
I'm not sure what his name would be but in the documentary we see photographs of this
fine fellow around Stan Lee's house.
Right after the boo video plays on screen a photo comes on the screen of the grey peering
through the railing of his deck.
Then another of what I assume to be some friends that are not seen again in the documentary
just a picture of his friends posing with another grey vaguely in the background.
You can tell this is not the same grey though this one kind of looks like a balloon.
Then another one this one's way off in the grass and the lawn.
There's nothing literally for reference in the photo or size.
So to me they kind of looked like they could have been just like a miniature grey.
You don't know there's nothing else in the video other than grass blades and grace.
This one's good.
Then the word flashes across the screen because remember there's no one talking aside from
the eavesdropping and in quotes this is what's flashing across the screen.
A few times strange images were found on digital cameras.
That's when we get some beautiful random grey selfies.
Unfocused round black grey eyes.
Unfocused slip for a mouth.
The bottom of a round black grey eye.
Two nose holes.
The bottom of a round black grey eye.
It's literally just random unfocused grey selfies on a digital camera.
Then we're blessed with another video right after the grey selfies.
Random bullet reads 030505 1245 AM.
I must point out that while the bullet point reads 1245 AM in the bottom right of the screen
it says May 5th 05 310 AM.
So it doesn't even match up with what the fuck you're saying.
This is what it says, grandpa grey and bright flashes of light woke up on the kitchen floor
at 1 35 AM so now we have three fucking different times.
I don't even know what's going on.
I'm also not entirely sure what the fuck grandpa grey means.
Anyway, in this video, the continuation of the boo video, it starts outside in the driveway
where Stanley says he literally is saying this in the video.
No, no one outside.
We move inside the house and the camera zooms in on the fucking wall for some reason so we're
trying to figure out what the fuck's going on with Stanley at this point.
And while we're zoomed in on the wall, Stan goes, ah, oh my god, what the fuck is that?
The camera then turns around and there's a grey literally squinting at this guy in disgust
from around the corner.
And he's just standing there fucking squinting at him.
And Stan is fucking acting the side himself like, holy shit, what's it doing?
Well, it's not moving is what it's doing and it's suspended all of time and space and
eventually just kind of ducks out and Stanley goes, oh, where is it going?
Oh my god, I can't believe it.
Wimpering, where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Holy shit.
All the while the camera is going Blair witch on us, not focusing on a single thing.
And might I add the worst high pitch voice acting I've ever heard.
That's my play by play of the grey.
What would you call it?
The grey?
The grey mask.
What do they call the event in Japan?
The incident.
The incident, the grey incident.
That's that's the grey incident.
Grandpa grey incident.
Yeah.
So Romanek along with Jeff Heckman, who is just some random weird guy appeared on Larry
King Live in 2008 claiming to have recorded an alien peering into his window.
On May 30th, 2008, Heckman publicly screened the video at the Metropolitan State University
of Denver.
That forbid photos by reporters.
Heckman, I can't remember what he does.
I guess I'll just tell you.
No, I won't.
That's as much as I tell you about Heckman.
He was doing something to promote extraterrestrials at some point.
How he got tied to him was on Larry King, no idea.
I know this is a podcast about this, but I can only do so much.
In May 2008, Romanek was also interviewed on Coast to Coast AM.
George Norris suggested that Romanek take a lie detector test to prove the authenticity
of his alleged alien video to which Romanek agrees.
When the test was conducted later in 2008, Romanek failed on the question, is the boo
tape a hoax?
Romanek claimed that he had a medical condition which prevented a lie detector test from working
on him.
If he then tried to fight the machine.
Funny, the only test he ever underwent to prove the authenticity of this, he failed.
Yeah, it's too bad.
You can't do another one because you know, they're too expensive and you're sweaty or
something like that.
It's a medical condition.
All his medication got melted by the ETs.
Did they ask him about that?
And yes, yes, he was telling the truth on that one.
At the 2009 Mysteries of the Universe conference, Romanek claimed that he was set up by Norris
to fail the lie detector test.
Norris not that diabolical.
Yeah, there's one thing that everybody knows about George Norris and that he's a plotter.
Yeah.
Son of a bitch.
A video expert consulted by Romanek claimed that the Denver Alien Video would have cost
50,000 to fake.
That could explain why he didn't have money to prove with the DNA test that the 90 was
Betty Hills.
However, the Paranormal Investigations team, Brian and Baxter, were supposedly able to
reproduce the video for about $90.
The original Boo video was uploaded to YouTube in August 2009, which quickly sparked popularity
among the UFO and alien research community.
So yes, you know the video.
We go on.
Appearing on ABC Primetime in 2009, Romanek made the unsubstantiated claims that he underwent
hypnosis by R. Leo Sprinkle, a psychologist who specializes in alien abduction cases.
He's come up on one of our episodes, but I can't remember where.
The name doesn't sound familiar, so I can't help you with that.
Really?
No, I'm pretty sure he's come up, but that's neither here nor there because neither of us
can remember.
Romanek claims that under hypnosis, he wrote out the Drake equation.
Of course, we know that he times it by 100, which is a formula used to estimate the number
of communicative extraterrestrial civilizations in our galaxy, but times 100.
And then added times 100 to it.
He's so far ahead.
That just proves it.
Yeah, 100 times ahead.
Joe Nicol from the Center for Inquiry suggested the equation was done through simple memorization.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, I can't say he's wrong on that.
I mean, why would the Drake equation be beamed telepathically to Romanek?
We did an episode on this and it was created by humans.
Yeah.
To map the number of civilizations.
Francis Drake, he's up to some weird telepathic shit.
Yeah.
So at this point, I'm like, why does that prove anything to do with aliens and why would
the aliens know the Drake equation?
Yeah.
Why would they need to?
They know they exist and by extension that we exist.
So it's like a root point.
And why would they have a specific equation for the what exists in the Milky Way galaxy?
And why would it be exactly the same but times 100?
And plus they know we're here.
So why would they be calculated?
I don't know.
Yeah, exactly.
I was like, huh, why is this a huge thing for him?
Okay.
So in the same interview, a real tell all, Romanek said that he had physical evidence
of his abduction experiences by way of an alien implant in his leg.
When a medical test for the implant was requested, Romanek said it disappeared.
It was fucking alien.
They're so crafty.
I would have blamed it on George again.
Either that or the squinty alien.
He was totally up to something being all squinty like that.
In yet another interview this time in 2015 on the Peter Maxwell slatery show, Romanek
admitted to faking the strange movement of objects that occurred during a 2014 interview
on the same show.
I'm not really sure what they're talking about there, but maybe you do and maybe that's
important.
While this says nothing about the authenticity of the Boo video, it has caused more skeptics
to doubt the authenticity of the video as it would.
So now that that's out of the way.
Now can we talk about the elephant in the room?
It's a big one.
So trigger warning and viewer discretion is advised and so on for what's coming up next.
On February 13, 2014, Romanek was arrested after turning himself in at the Larimer counter
jail on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography, the outcome of an eight
month investigation launched by the US Department of Homeland Security.
More than 300 images as well as video files depicting child pornography were found on
Romanek's computers and after appearing at the Larimer County Courthouse, Romanek was
released on a 20,000 personal recognizance bond.
In 2016, Romanek pleaded not guilty to both charges after refusing a plea deal from the
8th Judicial DA's office.
Also on February 2014, Romanek's wife, Lisa, said quote, we will be taking ufology into
the courtroom end quote.
And news outlets love that.
They probably love that she said that.
After the trial, their defense attorneys, Colorado law firm McClintock and McClintock
stated that they did not do this because it was not relevant to the case.
They advised Romanek to appeal the conviction and hire new defense counsel to handle and
appeal the case, which according to Romanek's attorneys is standard advice.
Following the announcement of the verdict, Lisa Romanek said that they plan to file a
notice of appeal within the 45 day period.
I'm not sure if it says in here, but basically her argument was that people are trying to
discredit him with the groundbreaking UFO information that he has.
And this is the first time his wife came up.
Is she usually involved in his stuff?
She does appear in the documentary a little bit.
It's all, you know, crazy shit.
So she was in the documentary.
Romanek made public allegations.
Oh, here, I just said it to you, but it says it in the next paragraph.
Romanek made public allegations that the government had planted the evidence on his computer at
the sentencing hearing deputy district attorney Joshua Ritter accused him of deception to
try to place blame on others and doctoring evidence in the form of videos falsely alleging
that his computer had been hacked.
Ritter disclosed that Romanek had even tried to frame his stepson Jacob Shaddock for placing
the pornography on his computer.
The prosecutor pointed out that even the defense team would not allow such fabricated evidence
in court.
By the late 2017, Romanek was found guilty of felony possession of child pornography,
but not guilty of distribution of child pornography.
His sentencing was held December 14, 2017, where he was sentenced to serve two years
in the Larimer County Community Corrections halfway house and to register as a sex offender.
He reported immediately to jail to wait for space to become available at that facility.
As a sex offender, he is now subject to 10 years of intensive supervised probation,
not allowed to use computers or electronic devices on monitored and not allowed contact
with children under 18 without approval from the community corrections program.
What if they're just hiding behind his barbecue?
Exactly.
But those were never real.
Let's admit it.
I know you never saw it, but trust me.
I feel like this is really going to hamper his electronic investigations into everything.
I know, I know.
I was just thinking that as I read it because that's all he did was walk around recording
things apparently.
In 2017, Romanuck's attorney, Ted McClintock, I cannot get this word out, McClintock stated
that his client plans to appeal the conviction.
To date, no appeal has been filed.
The implementation of Romanuck's mandatory sex offender program has been delayed several
times and dragged out with him making unverified claims that physical illness were keeping him
from completely complying with the court orders.
And I love this article titled Man.
An extremely contagious illness prevents court appearance.
A Colorado alien abduction author and convicted sex offender says he has an extremely contagious
disease that prevents him from appearing in court.
April 17, 2019, 2.22 PM.
Wow, he's actually like he's a year ahead of his time.
Yep.
So, Love Land Colorado.
A Colorado alien abduction author and convicted sex offender says he has an extremely contagious
disease that prevents him from appearing in court.
The Love Land reporter Harold reports Stanley Romanuck was scheduled for a status conference
Tuesday but presiding 8th judicial district Judge Susan Blanco allowed Romanuck and his
attorney Allison Lee Rutenberg to appear via conference call.
The purported, contagious disease has led Romanuck to misseveral therapy sessions required
by his sentence which calls for two years of community corrections and at least 10 years
of sex offender intensive supervised probation.
Romanuck was found guilty in 2017 of felony possession of child pornography in his Love
Land home.
Romanuck was sentenced to two years and a half way house in order to register as a sex offender.
After these man-eating diseases caused him to misseveral court days during his original
sentence, Romanuck was re-sentenced on November 30, 2020 to 10 more years of intense supervised
probation.
The judge expressed concern that Romanuck was not taking responsibility for his crimes.
And that my friends is asshole Stanley Tiger Romanuck.
Huh, Chelsea, this didn't come up in your episode but doing a little bit of googling
while this was going on, did you know Extraordinary is a trilogy?
What?
Yeah.
It is?
Yeah, it's done by a group called J3 Films and it's called, so the first one's Extraordinary
the Stan Romanuck story, next one is Extraordinary the Seating and the third one is Extraordinary
the Revelations which came out in 2021.
They had no idea.
And I was just looking at it and it might be on Amazon Prime, I'll have to take a look.
Just listen to the names in this movie.
Oh no.
Narrated by Jimmy Church, the deepest voice in the UFO community.
And it also features names such as Richard Dolan, which is unfortunately not Richard
Doe, that's a different guy.
Nick Pope, George Noiree.
What?
L.A. Marzulli.
This has a lot of names in it that are prominent people in the UFO community.
I found it because I was looking at the movie and I looked at the director's name and he's
associated with this company.
So this might be something to look into for a future episode.
For a future episode?
Oh hell yeah.
I don't know how you can start a series off with that episode though.
And then continue it on.
Honestly, when I was watching it, I was like at the beginning I was like, this is shit.
And I was like, I'm just going to stick it out.
I need to like do a summary of what's in the documentary at least, at the very least of
how like so we can make fun of how shitty it is.
And then he started talking and I was like, holy fuck.
This guy changes his story in the documentary while you're watching it.
I'm thinking we're all fools and we don't remember what he just said.
Yeah, that's Stanley and you see him even continue on.
Once he goes to court, he continues to kind of lie about things.
You just can't stop lying.
Yeah.
You can't stop.
This guy doesn't have a law practice and law degree behind his name to back up some of
his lies somewhat.
There's literally we have no idea where he came from.
The guy was in the special classes at high school.
Other than that, that's literally the only thing and he got stabbed by the crypts in
the bloods.
That's all we have for reference of what he does.
The aliens really seem fascinated to want to make alien hybrids out of him for some
reason.
I call him star seed.
Maybe he was just really scoopable.
Scoops and alien implants, which glowed under black light.
I kind of want to give him another nickname.
Scoops.
Tiger.
Stanley Tiger.
Scoops.
Roman.
So yeah, I didn't expect this to go where it went as well.
Oh, wow.
I know.
I was quite pleased with this episode.
Yeah, it got a little dark at the end.
It did get very dark, but it was also something I knew nobody was going to be expecting.
Yeah, huh.
But something everybody is expecting now is the end of this episode.
So it is coming to an end.
If there is one expected thing to happen in this episode, it is that.
And I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.
We are Dream to the Fringe.
Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.
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