1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,240 This is kind of apt timing for this topical intro. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Chelsea, we've been talking about Japan for a couple weeks now in our podcast as we are recording this episode. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,760 One thing we haven't talked about really is modern day Japan, which is facing a aging population crisis. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,360 And one economist has come out with a brilliant plan for dealing with it that made it to New York Times. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,320 This is not the New York Times episode because they have a robust paywall. 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,880 This is instead the Daily Mail version of article, which we will be going over now. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,520 It came out on February 12, 2023, written by Steven LaPour, 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,360 title of the article. Yale University Economics professor sparks outrage by proposing mass suicide 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,720 in disembowelment of elderly people in Japan to deal with the country's rapid aging society. 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,920 What, but why? 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,280 We're going to get into that. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Okay. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,120 I think or we won't. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,400 And there will just be more questions. 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,560 I'm just saying we're just leaving into that, hey. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,280 A Yale University professor has sparked outrage by suggesting the only way to deal with Japan's 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,960 rapidly aging population is a mass suicide in disembowelment. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Oh my God. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Yusuke Narita, an assistant professor of economics at Yale, 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,080 notice he is not in Japan nor old. 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,320 Also the photo they have here of him, he's wearing glasses, I think. 22 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:12,640 Yes. 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Yes, that is him. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 One side of his glasses is a circle and the other side is a square. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,480 Interesting. 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,480 That would make it hard to focus on him. 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,320 Yes, but not for him to focus on you. 28 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,080 It's the ultimate game plan right there. 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:29,840 So Yusuke Narita, an assistant professor of economics at Yale, who is not in Japan nor 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,320 old, so doesn't have to deal with this, defended his views in a New York Times profile this weekend 31 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,520 after he made the remarks on a streaming news program in 2021. 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Quote, I feel like the only solution is pretty clear. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Unquote, he said at the time, quote, in the end, isn't it mass suicide and mass of the elderly? 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,120 End quote. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,920 So Puku was a ritual disembowelment that was forced upon samurai who had brought dishonor 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,080 to themselves in 19th century Japan. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Narita told the New York Times he was taken out of context, but he has also said that 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,920 euthanasia could become mandatory in the future, his comments forcing a backlash nonetheless. 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,400 He claims that this would allow younger generations to make their way in business, 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,400 politics, and other aspects of society that the older generation refuses to leave. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Japan has a low birth rate and the most public debt in the first world. 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,560 The country has 1.34 births per woman below the United States at 1.65. 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Last year, Japan sought the population plunge by more than 600,000 due to declining fertility 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,200 rates in a rapidly aging population. 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,640 The country's population dropped forward the 11th consecutive year and was down by 644,000 46 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,280 according to his Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications. 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,560 The overall population fell as death succeeded births by 609,000 and his people who moved out 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,920 of the country outnumbered those who moved in by 35,000. 49 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:49,120 Yet Yusuke's comments not only made people angry, but won him an audience. 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,440 He has over 569,000 Twitter followers, which doesn't actually seem like that much. 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,520 I feel like they're throwing that out of proportion there. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Especially with the way Twitter is right now. 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,320 He frequently shows up in Japanese media wearing casual clothing and presents himself 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,680 much like a radio shop jock, his Twitter bio proclaiming, quote, 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,600 the things you're told you're not allowed to say are usually true, end quote. 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Narita was asked to defend his views in a class earlier this year and did so by 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,080 showing a clip from the 2019 film Midsomer in which a cult forces an older member to jump off a 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,640 cliff. Whether that's a good thing or not, that's a more difficult question to answer Narita said. 59 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:33,680 So if you think that's good, then maybe you can work hard toward creating a society like that. 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,000 So it really doesn't sound like he actually has an argument other than there's too many old people. 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,840 I mean, I guess that's your argument. 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,880 That's your argument. 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,560 And that's why you should, if you're looking for a job that you don't have to be that good at 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,880 or explain yourself that well or actually get anything right, go be an economist. 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,800 It's the easiest fucking job in the world so long as somebody wants to hear what you're saying. 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:02,000 His comments received renewed attention when social media discovered them in January 67 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,400 with the sociologists complaint proclaiming them as hatred towards the vulnerable. 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Narita told the Times he was primarily concerned with the phenomenon in Japan where the same 69 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,040 tycoons continue to dominate the world's politics, traditional industries and media 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,440 entertainment journalism for many years. And I don't know how he's saying that just that 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,000 only happens in Japan where it's just like people have always been in the media or just the media. 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Yeah, I was just thinking that. 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,240 He literally lives in the US and teaches at Yale. Like how does he not see the simile? 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,040 I think if I'm not mistaken, most of the world has that problem coming up. Most of it. 75 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Yeah. Maybe the Western, I don't know. 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,400 He allows that the way he said it was meant as a metaphor for how an older generation must be phased 77 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,880 out and he has softened his language since. And quote, I shouldn't have been more careful about 78 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:54,160 their potential negative connotations. Narita said quote, after some self reflection, I stopped using 79 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,160 the words last year and he's not alone over as one of the major players in the country's 80 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,120 liberal Democratic Party, which we talked about extensively suggested old people need to hurry up 81 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:12,160 and die. Narita spread his message on social media and in comedy shows, energy drink ads and even 82 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,680 via TikTok impressionist comedy shows. I think that's as far as I need to go. I thought that was 83 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,640 an interesting article I found today. Yeah. And really just like I have very little respect for 84 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,160 economists just because not really anything other than a way for rich people to make everybody else 85 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,880 agree with. That's literally the job of a economist. What a fresh take on Japan's aging population. 86 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,160 Who would have thought it would be so easy to fix that problem? Yeah, not only they would all listen. 87 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,400 That's a different problem. Yeah. Shall I say anything to add to that? Yeah, I don't think so. 88 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Okay, then let's how about get into this episode. Okay, let's do it. 89 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,320 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on our journey to the fringe. 90 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. We're sometimes timing of intros and episodes being 91 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:15,520 filmed and what's coming out coincide perfectly. We are your timing wise apt hosts, Taylor and 92 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Chelsea here today talking about something I don't know other than that it is foot oriented, 93 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,680 which sounds kind of creepy if taken out of the context of fringe topics, which just makes me 94 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,800 think big foot. But I will leave that up to Chelsea to reassure me hopefully that it is going more in 95 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,280 the big foot way and less in the creepy way. Hey, how did you guess that? I tried to make it so 96 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:43,520 cryptic. So just like Taylor who said yet another episode that is a surprise, well probably only 97 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,440 a true surprise for Taylor is the title by this point is probably very punny and gave it partially 98 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,400 away or you read it or you're just here and it is a surprise. So Taylor, since you're the only 99 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,680 person I can ask right now because I can ask the listeners, the only person you can ask who will 100 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,640 give you an answer, you can ask anybody in real time, but I want an answer right now. Okay, 101 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:10,560 I want an answer. So I have to ask you, what would you say if I told you this episode was about 102 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:16,640 feeds and not big foot? I would possibly say it would be cryptid footprints. Okay. In general. 103 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Well, it's not so. Okay. Oh, no, we're not going the creepy way. Are we? I don't know where you're 104 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,720 thinking. We're not talking about foot finishes. Okay, because those are mainstream at this point. 105 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Yeah, mainstream for us, not foot finishes, not cryptid feet and not just any feet, not just, 106 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,840 you know, mundane feet. Oh, wait. No, I figured it out. It's the feet that keep washing up on shore. 107 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:51,360 It is. Yes. So this episode is you win nothing, but satisfaction, I'm guessing it. This episode is 108 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,720 specifically about many single feet. Some of them match. Some are not matching. There's a 109 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:02,400 feet in running shoes that are found washed up on shore in a very specific area in the world, 110 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:09,200 which is the Salish Sea. So not only am I doing a sort of mystery, well, it's not really a mystery 111 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,000 actually. Turns out they pretty well know why they're washing up, but it's one of those topics 112 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:20,400 that I think many people think it's a mystery. It also comes with intrigue of- I also think people 113 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,240 don't want to hear the answer because any actual answer as to why dismembered body parts are washing 114 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,640 up on shore, probably going to be a sad or disturbing answer. It is. It kind of is. I got 115 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,040 some satisfaction in getting that answer though. But I feel like most people are going to hear 116 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,440 that and they say, well, that's creepy. I don't want to learn anything more about it other than 117 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,560 that there's a mystery of feet. Well, that comes at the end. So listen to the whole episode. Or 118 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:51,520 people really like the theory that they just hear hot. There's a mystery of foot and they don't want 119 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,560 to ruin them. And they like that. I was- I don't know if I was satisfied with it, but we'll get to 120 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:02,320 it eventually at the very end. So at least listen to all the mystery and then keep going. It's weird, 121 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:09,440 but I digress. I'm also doing this sort of mystery episode because it's super local to me and it's a 122 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,960 weird thing. So I didn't know just how local it was to me. I thought it was Vancouver Island, but 123 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,840 turns out a lot of it's happening right in my neighborhood, but you know, in areas I've been 124 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:26,160 to before. If you haven't heard anything about this or if you need a refresher, since August 2007, 125 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:32,720 at least 20 detached human feet have been found on the coast around the Salish Sea. And the Salish 126 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Sea is in the Pacific Ocean. Well, it's beside the Pacific Ocean. I just really want to ask a quick 127 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,520 question here. Would you consider it 20 feet or would you consider it 20 foot? Because they're not 128 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,600 pairs. Like they're individuals. A lot of them. Some of them are pairs and I didn't know that. So I 129 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,960 guess you could use it interchangeably. It's kind of like if you have a bunch of individuals, it would 130 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,960 be persons. It should be foot. I think it's foot, but I don't know for sure. You need detached human 131 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:08,640 foot, which sounds wrong to say. Yeah. Also, it does disturb me how close you are to these and 132 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,920 you're doing an episode on them. And I learned some really cool things about the area I live in. 133 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,880 No, it's not the fact that I worry for your safety. I'm more so worried you have involvement in this. 134 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,840 And that's why you're learned so much about it. You can't just put that in this episode. 135 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:30,960 You can edit it. You're editing this episode. Chelsea has no attachment to this mystery. 136 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Disclaimer. Okay. So 20 detached human foot have been found on the coast of the Salish Sea. 137 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,800 I listened to a bunch of podcasts leading up to this and I find it so funny that everybody says 138 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:48,640 Salish wrong and they're saying Salish or something like that. And being that said, I'm really hoping 139 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,040 I'm saying Salish Sea right because that's the only way I've ever heard it pronounced. 140 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Oh yeah. And I heard the Indigenous group, the Co-Salish. It comes up a lot in land recognition. 141 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,080 So I assume it's the Salish Sea. Yeah, I assume it is as well. And I've heard it pronounced 142 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:11,520 multiple times being where I'm from. So that's it. So the Salish Sea is in the Pacific Ocean area 143 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:17,280 off the Pacific Ocean. But it falls within the island territories of Canada, correct? Yes. And 144 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,920 the United States. So it lies off the coast of British Columbia, specifically between Vancouver 145 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Island and the mainland British Columbia, as well as Washington State. So it includes the Strait of 146 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:33,120 Georgia, the Strait of Juan de Fuca, and the Puget Sound. And not only are there a f*** ton of islands 147 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,880 in this area, it also includes Vancouver and Victoria in Canada and Seattle, Tacoma, Everett 148 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,760 in the United States to name just a few cities that you're going to see that fall into this 149 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,120 general area. I know Washington has a lot of islands in this area as well that I'm not as 150 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,720 familiar with. If you're American, that would be the Juan de Fuca Strait. Yeah. I must stress that 151 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:02,480 this phenomenon is specific to this area in the world. And while it does happen in some places, 152 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,720 like one or two, it's extremely rare for it to happen more than once, even remotely close by 153 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:15,200 to each other. Feet do not just wash up in such numbers or frequency literally anywhere else in 154 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,360 the world on beaches. And we'll get to that in a little bit as to why that probably is later on 155 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,720 in the episode. Like I said, the odds of the frequency in which this is happening is literally 156 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:33,280 million to one odds and the odds are even higher to find a matching foot. So first I want to start 157 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:39,600 off with that setup with the foot sightings. I mentioned the date August 2007 when at least 20 158 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,960 detached feet of foot have been found washing up on shores around the Salish Sea, but it actually 159 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,880 goes back further than that. There is one foot sighting dating back to 1887. Have feet been 160 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:57,280 spawning up on shore since humans have first landed in that area? No, actually. So this is the first 161 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:04,000 one that we have on record. It's 1887. And this is a full half of a human leg. So like from the knee 162 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,920 down washed up on the shores near Falls Creek. Oh, shit. So shrinkflations even hitting the legs and 163 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,840 feet to their right. Yeah. Washing up the shores. A leg in a boot like knee down in a boot. And it 164 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,760 washes up near Falls Creek in Vancouver still wearing this boot baffled by the severed extremity. 165 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:27,520 The constables of Vancouver decided that rather than pounding the pavement trying to find the 166 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,560 owner of this boot, it wanted to return it back to the owner. The obvious way to do this was to 167 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:38,320 place the leg on a pike and leave it outside the precinct office in case the owner came looking for 168 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,840 it. Or maybe somebody knew whose boot that was. They're like, that looks like Bob's boot. And 169 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,560 they're like, you know, now that we mentioned it, Bob, we haven't seen Bob in a while. And he had a 170 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:54,160 really nice boot. I want you to have a nice boot. Nobody ever found the owner to this boot or leg. 171 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:00,800 It's still a mystery to this day. But fun fact, I found it fun for all you locals in the area, 172 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,080 the police station where this leg sat looking for its rightful owners now gone. And that's not the 173 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:14,000 fun fact. What is there now is called leg and boot square. And that does still stand. It's by Falls 174 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,640 Creek. If you're ever in Vancouver, I myself probably by this time have visited it. And I will 175 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,880 be posting it to the social medias that I found that to be a very interesting Vancouver fat. And 176 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,920 I love that it's still a place leg and boot square. So it's literally just named after the fact that 177 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:40,080 somebody found a boot there. Yeah, it is a boot with a leg in it. Okay. The very cleverly named 178 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:47,920 leg and boot square. Is it cleverly or just really lazily? It's very literally. That's the right 179 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:56,160 answer. Yes. The next sighting, which was published in the Vancouver Sun, July 30th, 1914, that recent 180 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:03,040 arrivals from Kim'squit, sorry, that one I do not know if I am saying right, reported a human leg 181 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:08,240 encased in a high boot was found on a beach near the mouth of the Salmon River, a previous name 182 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,880 for the Dean River near Kim'squit near the headquarters of Dean Channel. It was thought 183 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,440 the remains were from a man who had drowned on the river from a previous summer. So there we have a 184 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:23,440 few odd sightings going back. These ones are legs and boots. But nobody was worried about that guy 185 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:30,480 being murdered and his foot being chopped up. No, not once did that come up to be honest with you 186 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,080 that someone was worried there is a serial killer of what? Okay. Yes. Okay. I just wanted to make 187 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,280 sure that was intentional. A feat if you will. It wasn't until I thought until you realize what you 188 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:47,120 said. That's good. Yeah. That's good. We can edit it out in a post game. The sightings were slow 189 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:52,560 back in the old days. Like a one footed individual. Those are the only two we have up until August 190 00:15:52,560 --> 00:16:01,760 2007. Holy shit. Look at 100 years. Yeah. Then there's a long ass hiatus until August 2007. The date 191 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:09,200 I have already said brought up. Yep. August 2000. And we'll live in infamy. Yes. Sure did. Here it is 192 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:16,080 another time but I will actually tell you about it now. I think let's continue on and see. I know 193 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,880 we're talking sightings but while we're doing that let's throw in some stats. Since September 194 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:28,480 2018 there have been 15 feet found in British Columbia between 2007 and 2018 and I'm pretty 195 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:34,000 sure there have been no more foot sightings since that time which is why we have that specific time 196 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,360 of 2018 September. I have been found in the state of Washington so we're winning here in Canada. 197 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,440 We're winning the foot race. Yeah. We're winning the foot race. 198 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Yeah. It's not to break or anything. This first modern day sighting I guess you would call it. 199 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:58,160 The detached foot's return happens on Jebediah Island in BC. Here's the date again August 200 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:05,440 20th 2007 just in case you forgot. And this sighting was from a 12 year old girl visiting from 201 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Washington who picked up a size 12 men's white and black Adidas shoe and opened the sock for some 202 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:18,080 fucking reason. She didn't realize there was a foot in the shoe when she grabbed it and no the fact 203 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,440 there was a sock sticking out of it. Yeah. You would think it might be heavier than you would 204 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,840 think if it was just an abandoned boot. And this girl would be like in her late 20s now. I wonder 205 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,440 if she still like holds this memory in her mind. I would not doubt it. I've never found a foot so 206 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:42,000 I don't know how it never returned to Canada. Yeah. Probably not. It's a horrible place. Wouldn't recommend. 207 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,360 Full of foot. She pulls back the sock for some weird reason to find a man's right foot. It is 208 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:53,920 thought to have become disarticulated due to submerged decay. This kind of shoe was produced 209 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:01,760 in 2003 and distributed mainly in India. So six fucking days later. Six days later. All of a sudden 210 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,280 there's feet everywhere. Foot's everywhere. August 26 2007. Remember the first date was 211 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,680 August 20 2007. Six days. Remember the state because I only give you this one once. This one's 212 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Gabriola Island in BC where a man's right foot was discovered by a couple also disarticulated 213 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,240 due to decay. I'm pretty sure disarticulated means foot has come apart from the leg. The foot in 214 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,680 shoe not the couple is disarticulated due to decay. It was waterlogged and appeared to have been taken 215 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:37,280 ashore by an animal. It probably floated ashore from the south. The shoe as size 12 white Reebok 216 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,960 was produced in 2004 and sold worldwide but primarily in North America and the type has 217 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,480 since been discontinued. Just the world on the same page. Disarticulated means separated bones 218 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,440 at the joints. Yeah. So that would be at the ankle joint. Yes. Also it concerns me a little. 219 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:59,200 These are like fairly large men's size shoes. Yeah. They're not average. Like the average size 220 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,920 of a man's foot is anywhere between eight and 10. Oh I didn't know that. You're learning lots of fun 221 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:12,320 facts in this episode. So there's a quote from this particular foot finding from Gary Cox of 222 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:19,040 The Horse Boys or the RCMP if you prefer who told the Vancouver Sun quote two feet being found in 223 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,640 such a short period of time is quite suspicious. Finding one foot is like a million to one odds 224 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:30,480 but finding two was crazy. I've heard of dancers with two left feet but come on and listen to Gary 225 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:37,600 go. Those horse boys end quote. What are those horse boys actually the quote ended before I said 226 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:45,280 that. So if the quote ends at but come on. The third foot February 8 2007 on Valdez Island British 227 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Columbia. It was inside a men's blue and white Nike running shoe size 11. It was produced in 228 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:58,000 2003 and sold in Canada and the US from February 1st to June 30th 2003. Super short selling time on 229 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:05,520 this. Foot number four May 22nd 2008 Kirkland Island BC which is an island in the Fraser Delta 230 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:12,480 between Richmond and Delta BC. I've never actually heard of this island and when I googled it it is 231 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:18,400 not like an inhabited island. It's just an island you can visit and this one was a woman's blue and 232 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,000 white new balance running shoe size seven. It was produced in June 1999 and distributed through 233 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,120 major retail stores. This found foot was wearing a sock and sneaker. It is thought to have washed 234 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:34,240 down the Fraser River having nothing to do with the ones found in the gulf islands which is where 235 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,800 the previous feet were found. I don't know if it's good to ask this question now or if it's going 236 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,840 to come up later because you've brought up each time where the sneaker that they're wearing or the 237 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,240 shoe they're wearing is predominantly sold but they all seem to also be wearing socks. Is it less 238 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,000 regional for socks or is it just something that they've never really looked into or not? 239 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Pretty much I think they're just describing in detail what they were wearing and pretty much 240 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,240 all of them were wearing socks in a running shoe. Okay but they described like oh this shoe's sold 241 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,960 here so they're trying to pinpoint where these people are from but does that sock not give you 242 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,640 any further information or is it something they've never really looked into? Probably not. I would 243 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,800 assume socks are less regional than shoes which have much more so a cultural connotation and 244 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,440 not necessarily regional but maybe monetary differences especially if you're from a wealthier 245 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,120 country you're gonna have more different options than at pork. Yeah I think you're right and with 246 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:34,560 the sneakers I think they're better able to determine like a time frame of perhaps where 247 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:40,960 this foot came from because some of these time frames are super specific like the one only had 248 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:46,960 a time frame of a couple months that it was being sold. Yeah okay. Like the previous one we were just 249 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,720 talking about was only sold I mean but then you never know when it went into the water. And sneaker 250 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:58,080 heads have been like quietly waiting for this phenomenon to happen their entire lives so all 251 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,640 this information they've been collecting their entire lives finally became useful. Yeah so if it's 252 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,200 a sneaker head that's been doing this the last couple of years wouldn't surprise me at all. 253 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,880 You know what it could be someone who went and just uploaded that to Wikipedia because in the end 254 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,320 this compiled it into a really nice just like source of everything so he might have just gone and 255 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,480 added this but no actually I went through the news articles as well it was also in the news 256 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,640 articles okay. In 2011 the fourth sneaker out in Kirkland Island was identified as being part of a 257 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,200 pair of blue and white new balance sneakers belonging to a woman who jumped from the Petulo 258 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Bridge US Minster in 2004 which is British Columbia and the Petulo Bridge does cross over the 259 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Freezer River. Foot number five a match to the third foot found on Valdez Island so we're getting 260 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:53,760 matches now which is found on Westham Island by two hikers June 16 2008 and matches the third foot 261 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,840 in shoe identified as belonging to a 20 year old Surrey man reported missing four years earlier so 262 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:07,120 these are all the last two I mentioned are local to the area. Now foot six August 1st 2008 near 263 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:14,240 Pished Washington our first one in the States this is a right foot inside a man's black size 11 shoe 264 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,000 was discovered by a camper on a beach it was covered in seaweed the site of the discovery was less 265 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,520 than 16 kilometers from the international border in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Testing confirmed 266 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:32,880 that the foot was human please say the large black top size 11 athletic shoe for a right foot contains 267 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:39,520 bone and human flesh this is the first foot of this series to be found outside of BC the RCMP and 268 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Clalem county sheriff's department agreed on August 5th that the foot could have been carried 269 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,680 south from Canadian waters so we are straight up just thinking this is a Canadian problem. 270 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:57,040 No we're saying that's ours we get that point. Yeah we have the foot. It's really 16 to 4 not 271 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:06,960 15 5 jerks. Yeah we spotted you a point because we felt that. Foot 7 Richmond BC the date November 11 2008 272 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:13,120 again the known woman's left foot in a shoe was found floating in the Fraser River in Richmond 273 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,560 the shoe was described as a small new balance running shoe possibly a woman's shoe the forensic 274 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:24,800 DNA profiling analysis indicated that it was the genetic match to the foot discovered on Kirkland 275 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,240 Island May 22nd. The Fraser River if you're wondering about that you're thinking river what's 276 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,520 going on the Fraser River does connect out to the Salish Sea from the mainland I don't know where 277 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,080 it originates like way back into British Columbia I think. Foot number eight also Richmond British 278 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Columbia again October 27 2009 our right foot in a size eight and a half Nike running shoe on a 279 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:55,040 beach in Richmond the remains were identified as a Vancouver area man who was reported missing in 2008 280 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:04,400 in January. Foot 9 my birthday August 27 2010 would be island Washington a woman or child's right foot 281 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,240 without a shoe or sock I must have missed this even though it's right here without a shoe or 282 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,200 sock interesting this foot was determined to have been in the water for two months Detective Ed 283 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Wallace of the Island County Sheriff's Office released a statement saying the foot would be 284 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:26,320 tested for DNA however there is no match found in the national DNA database interesting no shoe or 285 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,960 sock I thought they were all in shoes. Foot 10 Tacoma Washington December 5 2010 found on the 286 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:39,680 title flats quote the right foot was still inside a boy size six Ozark trail hiking boot and likely 287 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:46,400 belonged to a juvenile or small adult and quote police spokesman Mark Algum said Tuesday in Tacoma 288 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:53,120 about 40 kilometers south of Seattle and 225 kilometers south of Vancouver. Foot 11 August 30 289 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:59,120 2011 the next year Falls Creek British Columbia another popular area and we're going back to the 290 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:05,520 area of foot and boot square sex unknown on this one a foot was found in a man's white and blue size 291 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,120 nine runner floating next to the Plaza of Nations marina attached to the lower leg bone it had 292 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:17,200 disarticulated naturally at the knee due to the water wait so this particular area does actually 293 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:23,280 get a different type of foot showing up yeah boots at least things that could fit in a leg yeah 294 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,800 they've attached different differently at Falls Creek yeah yeah yeah you're right very strange so 295 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:35,040 the last one we got no running shoe or a sock this one we get more of leg in there foot 12 296 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:44,640 is also a weird one sassam at lake British Columbia November 4 2011 sassam at lake is in port moody 297 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:53,360 British Columbia if you know the area sassam at lake is a lake it is connected by a small kind of 298 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:59,200 it's not I wouldn't call it a river by any means there's like an inlet I don't know it's not an 299 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:06,080 inlet like if you look at a map it's not really anything but it is connected through like a small 300 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,840 thing I wouldn't even think that a foot would go maybe it got stuck in it it's one of the warmest 301 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:18,000 lake British Columbia I don't know it's not like a river or anything it's super weird it kind of 302 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,160 connects to the Salish Sea through this which is an inlet from the Salish Sea port moody has an inlet 303 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,960 it's connected to the Indian arm this one I just think it's weird because I would think of it more 304 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,000 as a lake I wouldn't even call it connected to the rest a man's right foot inside a size 12 305 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,040 hiking boot was discovered by a group of campers in a pool of fresh water at sassam at lake near 306 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:46,160 port moody in January 2012 this foot was identified by the BC coroner service of that as Stefan 307 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Zaharushko a local fisherman who went missing in 1987 police believe the foot separated naturally 308 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:03,760 from the body and do not suspect foul play 1987 to 2011 that is a long time for yeah that's 24 years 309 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,680 yeah I just I find that one weird and I wonder where he was fishing I would also want to know 310 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,320 like the status of the foot when they actually found it because like that couldn't have looked 311 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:22,080 fresh no it not in the lease bid at all but we're on to the next sighting okay December 13 no time 312 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:31,040 to think 2011 or no sorry this is not the 13th of December it's the 13th foot December 10 2011 313 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:37,280 lake union Seattle Washington human leg bone and foot in a black plastic bag under the ship 314 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:44,080 canal bridge as of January 2nd 2012 the medical examiner has not found a cause of death or identified 315 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:50,880 the body a few things I find wrong with this can you find a cause of death from a leg bone love loss 316 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:58,160 but I don't know no you know what if it had some sort of like disease in it you might be able to 317 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:05,120 like I could see certain like disease from possibly like leukemia or uh cancer of the bone 318 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,720 one of those two I suppose yeah but then at that point you gotta ask why is it in the river and 319 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,400 why is it in a black plastic bag yeah this is the first one that showed up in a bag too that's 320 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,640 kind of weird you're completely right on that one and nobody says on this one specifically that we 321 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,480 do not suspect foul play I would find and everybody else says that it feels like if you find a foot 322 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:34,320 you gotta say that or it's implied that there was foul play it's true and that's why there's so much 323 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,480 mystery behind this because you don't usually hear it in conjunction with the article totally natural 324 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:51,760 yeah yeah which some of them are yes I guess apparently um yes so foot number 14 January 26 2012 325 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:58,720 Vancouver BC on January 26 2012 the remains of what appears to be human bones inside a boot 326 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,560 were found in the sand along the waterline at the dog part near the maritime museum at the foot of 327 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Arbutus street in Vancouver and that's all we got on that one May 6 2014 another one in Seattle we 328 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,640 discovered the 15th foot human foot in white new balance shoe found along the show oh we haven't 329 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,320 heard what kind of shoes other than a boot and a hiking boot recently found along the shoreline of 330 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:30,400 Centennial Park near the pier 86 green terminal a new balance model 622 athletic shoe was white 331 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:37,760 with blue trim size men's 10 and a half the model of shoe was first available for sale in April 2008 332 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,600 from an initial news photo it appears to be a left foot and that's a lot of detail for you there 333 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,600 on just what exactly was found in conjunction with the foot for the 16th foot you ask I know 334 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,800 you're just like just get on to the next foot this one's found on Vancouver Island February 7 335 00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:02,160 2016 near Port Renfrew which is on the side of the island that's right on the ocean is that 336 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,840 really the Salish Sea then it's not the Salish Sea on that side I don't believe that one would be 337 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,280 Pacific Ocean because there's nothing sheltering it that's just why don't be yeah that's Pacific 338 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,880 Ocean so not specific to the Salish Sea but I guess they're not like being like technically a few of 339 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:25,520 them are not specific it can be the Pacific yeah hikers on Botanical Beach near Port Renfrew and 340 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Vancouver Island found a foot in a sock in a running shoe February 17th this is 10 days later 341 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:39,280 Vancouver Island again in Port Renfrew February 12 2016 foot 17 with that I keep getting the foot 342 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,520 confused with the date so February 12th which is the date the second foot was found in Port Renfrew 343 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,640 I foot washed up near Port Renfrew again Vancouver Island BC Coroner's Service said it matches the 344 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,200 one they found five days earlier so well that's at least good it's not like separate mysteries 345 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:03,120 that are hitting Port Renfrew and it washed up in the same place I find it interesting on this one 346 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:10,160 that this one is the ocean and it washed up in the same place whereas in the Salish Sea they've 347 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,760 been all over the place yeah all over the place but they're also like different shoes and feet 348 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,400 as far as yeah but there's been matches and the matches have gone into different islands and stuff 349 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,400 where there's more area to get lost in it washes up in the same spot which I think is a little bit 350 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,280 weird and interestingly enough there are at least from what I understand the rest of the world does 351 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:40,560 have ocean and land coinciding together running into each other if you will and they do not get feet 352 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:47,760 in shoes washing the floor exactly this is the only place in the world that this appears to happen 353 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,840 on a regular basis for a little while yeah and there are much more I mean there's a higher 354 00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:01,040 population in this area due to mainly Vancouver and Seattle and Washington but it's not like those 355 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,640 are even big cities like compared to other cities that can be on the ocean they're not and there are 356 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,560 much bigger cities on the ocean even North America even the west coast like LA and San Diego are 357 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:19,520 probably bigger even on lakes yeah and this is not happening so we're almost there foot 18 358 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Vancouver Island again remains of a leg with the shoe attached washed up near the settlement of 359 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:33,120 Jordan River on Vancouver Island I don't actually know where that is number 19 was found May 6 2018 360 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:40,400 on Gabriola Island again population on Gabriola Island is small oh yeah it's like in the hundreds 361 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:47,040 is it not I believe so yeah um as are most of the islands we're talking about Vancouver islands 362 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:53,680 the biggest of all the islands um oh my god all the other ones are tiny even one's not even populated 363 00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,000 that Kirkland Island shortly afternoon on Sunday May 6 a man walking along the shore on Gabriola 364 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Island encounters a hike I wanted to correct myself it is 4,500 people live on Gabriola Island 4,500 365 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:17,200 it's getting up there okay so shortly afternoon Sunday May 6 a man walking along the shore of 366 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:24,320 Gabriola Island encountered a hiking boot with a human foot inside wedged in a log jam and also 367 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:31,600 seems suspicious to me and here we're joining up with foot 20 in West Vancouver September 2018 368 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,360 hey foot good to see you yeah a good old friend the foot foot 20 we miss you 369 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:47,520 West Vancouver foot with light gray Nike free run or RN shoes free run I feel like that foot 370 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:57,120 took that name too literally yeah it doesn't need a body shoe on the shore near the 30th street 371 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,120 beach access point to West Vancouver the size 9.5 shoe was manufactured between February 1st 372 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,880 and 17th of April 2017 again a very short period of time it was believed to have been worn by a 373 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,480 male and had a blue sock that's the first time we've actually seen a sock described that's the 374 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,560 most they've ever described this yeah I feel like you can get more information out of the socks and 375 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,000 they've given us it is and on foot 20 they finally give us the sock information yeah now we're all 376 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:30,960 out of feet to talk about the victim is believed to have been under the age of 50 they really narrowed 377 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:37,280 it down yeah if you are curious on that one foot I have that information for you they were under 378 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,360 50 oh hold on we have one more hold on no no I just said foot 20 again yeah I must have been 379 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:51,920 excited about foot 20 okay now January 1st 2019 when people on Jetty Island and Everett Washington 380 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,400 hold on we did just do foot 20 but I have another one okay there are two foot 20s understood yeah 381 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,800 two foot 20s there's a reason we're not counting one of them maybe I don't okay let me just read 382 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,640 maybe I'll come up with the answer or maybe I count I mixed up my count maybe this is just 21 383 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:19,840 yeah yeah so the most recent sighting of what's or discovery I guess I keep killing them sightings 384 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,120 but I'm so used to seeing sightings on here on Journey to the French because we're used to cryptid 385 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,880 sightings are you a full sighting it's more than just a sighting like they found this it didn't just 386 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:39,760 run off after that would be discovery yeah of the foot as in I discovered a detached human foot not 387 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,880 I had a sighting of a human foot and then it was gone yeah if you found the rest of the body would 388 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:51,600 you consider that the detached body and then you found the foot oh no not at that point I don't think 389 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,160 I would be like how much of the body do you have to have to decide one side the passion the other's 390 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:03,360 not I found this detached body from its foot yeah I don't think anyone would how much how much of the 391 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,400 body do you need then to make that decision I was just gonna say what's the appropriate amount of body 392 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:16,880 to say this body is detached from its extremities and that reminds me of a joke on Flight of the 393 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,840 Concords back in the day where their friend I forget his name but he was talking about somebody 394 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,320 that was grabbed by the penis and they cut the band's body off from there and they say didn't you 395 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,800 mean that they cut his dick off and they said no because at the end of the day he was just a dick 396 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:40,240 and it brings up a good question or topic at least to talk about I would say the defining point is 397 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,800 probably all the limbs is it all the limbs is it a weight proportion or is it like a 398 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,800 significance portion at least but like even hmm even if it was a severed head you would say sever 399 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,640 head they didn't discover the person it's true we really do think of the torso yeah it's really the 400 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:03,840 torso like we always think of like the place where the place where like the humanity exists 401 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:10,240 is in the head but that can be severed and then you still think it's missing from the body yeah 402 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:17,200 weird it could just be a journey to the fringe thing or science do you think science would agree 403 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,120 I think that's a grammatical thing I wouldn't call it a scientific discovery 404 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:30,880 of what you need to be considered being an incomplete body and even so if your torsos 405 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:41,280 cut in half you would say missing half it's just rediscovered half a severed torso yeah not a body 406 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:51,040 okay so the last sighting the most recent January 1st 2019 is this the second 20th sighting this is 407 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,280 and you know I think where the confusion is coming from is all that talk of August 20th 2007 no hold 408 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:04,560 on it said the last sighting was 2018 now I said August 20th 2007 I'm confusing myself 409 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:10,080 said it too much it's the only date I know this must be like a new new one well it's not new because 410 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,280 it's 2019 because my sightings were up until 2018 so I think I must have found another one 411 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,240 is what's going on here just let me just tell you about it instead of all this hearsay about where 412 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:27,280 I came up with it January 1st 2019 when people on jettie island in Everett Washington called police 413 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:33,280 to report a boot with a human foot inside which the coroner was able to match to Antonio Neal 414 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,960 who is missing since December 12 2016 we keep talking about like every time you they find it in 415 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,600 a shoe you go very in detail as to what the shoe was and it was like it was created in like a 20 416 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:53,600 minute window at this factory for distribution in one town in eastern Idaho whereas with the boots 417 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,760 it's just a boot yeah boots are all the same you know I'll like keep assuming is these cowboy boots 418 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:06,880 keep showing up and they're like oh f**k them I hate cowboy boots you're poking holes in this okay 419 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:14,320 it's true boots are boots socks are socks unless it's the one blue shoes aren't very f**king 420 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:20,480 specific like all like again just just going back to my theory it's a f**king sneakerhead behind this 421 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,160 whole thing but it must be okay there's more of a conspiracy to this than we think a boot's a boot 422 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:34,320 I guess no due to boot it and there's so much to shoes that much must be taking into consideration 423 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:41,360 even though there's more of a boot there it's very generic everything what color what shoe size 424 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:49,120 where it was produced and nothing of the sort for the boots moving on so among the 20-ish feet found 425 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:55,200 we think there might be 21 there are a couple of hoaxes I didn't tell you about the hoaxes just in 426 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,840 case you're getting confused right now or pranksters if you want to call them you're gonna get into 427 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,640 views right like I don't have to speculate what you mean by hoax right a couple okay yeah it's 428 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:11,120 vague I'm not gonna tell you the whole story cuz we came here for the real who was to say who was to say I 429 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,880 just don't know what part they're hoaxing okay I'll tell you okay so the pranksters if you want to 430 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,720 call them stuff shoes with chicken bones or a skeletonized dog paws and place them along 431 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:30,400 Canadian shorelines and one was specifically found in Powell River and Powell River never came up once 432 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:37,760 in any of the other Powell River inland or am I thinking of somewhere else I think you're thinking 433 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,600 of somewhere else Powell River is on the sailor's sea I believe it is you have to take a ferry to 434 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:50,640 get oh yeah it's just north of Vancouver Island okay off of Bloor Bay and Myrtle Point yeah it's 435 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:58,000 as well very small yeah so one of those was Powell River so yeah those were hoaxes and why you would 436 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,400 want to prank that no idea unless you live in Powell River then you might get the idea behind 437 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:10,480 why they're doing it I don't know not much to do there so let's move on from the found feet I know 438 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,360 I just gave you a lot of found feet for you to recall at dinner parties and you know what we've 439 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,480 been giving a lot of advice lately on how we're getting too fancy Chelsea I'm a little worried 440 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:29,040 about this podcast how do we actually get back to speaking to the common folk after this I don't 441 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:35,760 know we don't I think we've just elevated to the next level and we gotta hope that our audience 442 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,720 elevates with us I think we've done a good job helping them get there and if they can't it's 443 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:47,920 their own fault we're not giving them like ballroom dancing at a kid like I mean it could be used there 444 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,200 it could no but you could stand off like aside to the ballroom dancing having these conversations 445 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,840 yeah small time you will these conversations okay we say dinner party they can be used anywhere 446 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:07,600 where yeah in the office around the water cooler galas ballroom dances off to the side on the squash 447 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,600 courts in the bathroom when you're in your stall and someone walks and sits down in the stall next 448 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,520 to you or just outside the bathroom door waiting for somebody to come out they're trapped at that 449 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,120 point that's when you got them there I think we just un-elevated ourselves see I think those are 450 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:33,760 still high brow events high brow events at bathrooms where's people poop they do they do yeah 451 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,560 they would use public washrooms yeah just different public washrooms they got fancier toilets 452 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,920 probably but yeah you can still use all of this there if you're ever struggling to make small 453 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:50,080 conversation especially where you shouldn't these come in handy for actually if you end up in a 454 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:56,880 situation where you don't know what to ask you need to say hey 20 more severed feet washing up a 455 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,280 shore count his foot or feet if they aren't actually matching feet many things came up in this episode 456 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:09,760 in which you can and how much of a body do you have to have before it's severed from the body 457 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:16,000 yes or what part what is the most important part no you're finding is it the nipple 458 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:28,320 never ever nipple it would be disembodied from the body disembodied nipple it wouldn't just say 459 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:41,680 okay where was I anyhow this is where I was saying this topic is better for like large groups of 460 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,080 people hopefully if you're eating like at the large table family so it really should be a cocktail 461 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:54,400 party Christmas dinner yeah where the Grinch is serving up his very first who roast beast yeah 462 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,640 that would be best yeah because who knows what to talk about when the Grinch has finally sat down 463 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:06,960 with your clan yeah this is gonna be a real conversation starter or if you're the what do 464 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,920 they call it on curb your enthusiasm when you're in the middle and you get the conversation going 465 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:18,080 for the whole table this is a good conversation for the middle person at a dinner table to get the 466 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,040 conversation going with the table any of the ones that come up in this episode also if you have to 467 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,560 be listening during like Thanksgiving-ish times you could really just say I am thankful to have two 468 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:35,760 foots or feet and then go on to explain why you're thankful included with my body at this time and 469 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,800 just still have my body I have severed nail clippings from my body I do not believe those to be my 470 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:47,200 body or the body itself intact at this moment but at this point do I consider my feet my body now 471 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,480 I'm confused about that okay speculation of where these feet have come from ranges from natural 472 00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:00,720 disasters such as ice bodies if they not thought of that yes bodies first and foremost yes um natural 473 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:07,280 disasters next such as a tsunami um the work of drug really I've never heard of a tsunami producing 474 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,920 feet no like they they only get produced by human bodies in my mind it's true it's true a foot tsunami 475 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:21,680 sounds terrifying and also like the next big great horror movie after sharknado the work of drug 476 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,440 dealers I've never heard of a drug dealer dropping off feet and throwing it into the ocean but maybe 477 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:34,000 I'm missing something especially just being a Vancouver thing yeah like if it was specifically 478 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,480 happening in Vancouver you think people would know about it or at least somebody would have told the 479 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:44,080 media and or the police that the drug dealers were doing yeah like we suspect drug dealers or like 480 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,120 someone being like hey my drug dealers threatened to cut off my foot and throw it into the ocean 481 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,640 and now they're finding all these feet yeah maybe it would have run some more okay my friend who 482 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:02,640 lost a ton of money to this drug dealer lost a foot and all the people are washing up and it matches 483 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:12,240 his shoe and we haven't also seen him yeah some people suspect serial killers and or human traffickers 484 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:19,280 or people importing humans illegally like um what do they call those isn't that human traffickers 485 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:27,120 is it coyotes oh yeah that is human traffickers okay yeah I bring up good one theory in particular 486 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:33,040 concerns of plane crash off quadra island three years ago with five men aboard and only how many 487 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:40,800 fees I think five would make 10 feet or less if somebody had already lost a foot it could be more 488 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,400 only one of the bodies had been found and I don't know when that was updated or if we've 489 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,080 ever found any of the other ones okay other theorists believe the coastline is being used as a body 490 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:58,400 dump for organized crime activity a third scenario is a serial killer at work um I'm not sure where I 491 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,760 got third scenario because I already mentioned that and then I brought it up again so by the time I 492 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,680 get to this one it's probably like the seventh or eighth scenario and it's a repeat of another scenario 493 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,720 and like we went through on them 13 of the 15 feet have been identified 494 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:21,200 Chelsea the most part I told you the Canadian feet I assume then yeah because he said 13 of the 15 495 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,760 right which there's well more than 20 or at least 20 we were a little confused at the end there 496 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,160 yeah we are we're still confused yeah of the Canadian feet have been identified in Canada 497 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:39,120 the BC coroner and I'm assuming the one in the big with no it specifically said it was never 498 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,560 identified they assume that they're Canadian feet so maybe they just didn't care to identify it but 499 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:52,720 no we're only counting our feet now yeah okay in Canada the BC coroner service said in December 2017 500 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:58,240 that foul play had been ruled out by authorities in all investigations and that the feet came from 501 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:04,160 people who died either in accidents or by suicide and the feet detached during the normal decomposition 502 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,880 process okay so the only thing that we're really sure of is that ducks aren't doing it yes absolutely 503 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,120 positive okay um I would like to unpack both of these things a little bit so the first one 13 of the 504 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:23,280 15 feet have been identified as we went through so most are attributed to suicide or misadventure 505 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,920 such as the plane crash I just mentioned actually I don't think any of the ones that came up were 506 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,320 actually from the plane crash so not such as the plane crash did we bring up the plane 507 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:42,480 yeah those are just um most are just attributed to suicide for the most part or a misadventure 508 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,440 like drowning or the guy who disappeared from the fishing boat that one would be misadventure I guess 509 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,280 yeah well all of these individual deaths are well documented and there is enough evidence to suggest 510 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,000 that these deaths were not suspicious and quote yeah well and I mean that one guy tried to have an 511 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,200 adventure on a fishing boat and he just missed so I get it that's probably just working which I wouldn't 512 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,640 call so much of as an adventure no that's a fact but he definitely wasn't trying what who knows what 513 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,000 he was trying to do with his life for feet at that point for I yeah I'm more so worried about what he 514 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,000 was trying to do with his feet at the time yeah as for the normal decomposition process 515 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,560 ghosts the feet that have been found have all been naturally decomposing since there is no clean cut 516 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:33,520 and the above feet identified there was no suspicions otherwise that they had shown up and 517 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,040 been cut off or anything like that decomposition may separate the foot from the body because the 518 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,280 ankle is one of the most weak joints in comparison to other joints or areas of the body yeah and with 519 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,520 decomposition and scavengers it would actually separate really easily from the body and it turns 520 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,800 out that underwater scavengers like crustaceans will work around bones and other tough obstacles 521 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,320 preferring to pick apart softer tissues and unlike the bony ball and socket joints that join our 522 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,920 legs and hips our ankles are mostly made off of soft stuff ligaments and other connective tissue 523 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,800 the bones are quite small in your ankle so it follows that a sunken shoe wearing body in the 524 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,720 Salish Sea is likely to be chewed apart by scavengers and to have its feet disarticulated from the rest 525 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:25,760 of the body in short order according to Simon Fraser University entomologists Gail Anderson extremities 526 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:32,480 such as hands feet and head often detached as the body decomposes in water but rarely float 527 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,520 an interesting point there so then we say the feet were usually found in sneakers as with most of 528 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:45,360 them except the boots and one without a it was just a barefoot he wants to talk about the boots 529 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,600 yeah except leg and boot square they want to name a square after it maybe it's because it is 530 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,080 so much and like nobody wants to talk about it they want to bring attention so the sneakers the 531 00:51:54,080 --> 00:52:00,800 coroner thought was responsible for both keeping the foot buoyant enough to eventually wash a 532 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,880 shore and forgiving the feet enough protection from decomposition to be found relatively intact 533 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,920 you probably noticed that all the shoes that the feet were wearing running shoes they were running 534 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,360 shoes if you can even google to look at the shoes you can google these exact shoes they come up now 535 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,560 that we've determined that this all really just kind of makes sense i'm wondering where are all 536 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:28,240 the other detached feet in the ocean going and of the ones that don't end up on the shores around 537 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:34,000 the Salish Sea are they floating in garbage island they literally must all collect in other places 538 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,320 we're just not aware of surely my theory is that it's just an elaborate advertising campaign by Nike 539 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:46,640 but i don't have a lot to back up my theory would you call it successful i didn't say successful i 540 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:56,400 said advertising campaign just healed potentially f**king nailed advertising campaign or neutral did 541 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:02,320 not did push it just happened we're talking about it aren't we and then something else that came up 542 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,160 i mean it relates to the story one would have to wonder about bodies or feet rather of those found 543 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:16,240 after major ocean disasters such as the titanic with only recovering 360 of the 1500 lost no feet 544 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:22,880 mentioned with 500 miles of body strewn about there are known cases of leather being unaffected by 545 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,400 saltwater with archaeologists finding pristine sandals and ancient shipwrecks so the likelihood 546 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:34,080 of finding leather shoes or even non decomposed remains in shoes from the titanic are very high 547 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,280 in the right conditions it is said that the ocean has been able to preserve organic matter for centuries 548 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,960 with the tentative identification of bodies at the ship's hull but how many shoes are still preserved 549 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,520 there to this day are suspected to lie at the bottom of the titanic now maybe those are the 550 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:56,720 boots that washed ashore in vancouver i mean that's quite the distance but that's about a hundred 551 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:04,320 years between the two and it is across a big big chunk of land so it's probably not those but exactly 552 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:10,720 to our point that we are making about this you're not seeing this happen with this either anywhere 553 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:17,600 like no mass feats anywhere it's just happening in this one area that too it might just be the 554 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:23,680 currents at least on the east coast of north america that are not congruent to things washing ashore 555 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:30,640 great and that's where my next and last point is going as for the popular foot area why is it so 556 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,320 popular as taylor was saying kind of that's where he was getting of course it's very popular to the 557 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,920 currents possibly the man who knows the most about how and where things end up in the sailor sea is 558 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:48,480 parker meccridi weird thing to be known for why things end up where in the sailor sea but that's 559 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:54,080 what he's known for a professor of oceanography at the university of washington in seattle 560 00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:00,480 oh f***ing american gets the win yeah i know and it's this has been hyping up canada this whole 561 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,800 time you know they didn't want to take any responsibility for these feet they didn't 562 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:15,680 want to say whether they're victims of but they got the fuck i might as well end the episode here 563 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:22,880 just kidding yeah um so he's built a three-dimensional computer simulation at the coastal ocean of the 564 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,040 pacific northwest including the sailor sea and he says quote it's all realistic end quote he says 565 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:36,800 reqote in the sense that it has realistic tides winds rivers and ocean conditions end quote the 566 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:42,320 simulation is called live ocean and as we talk on the phone oh no i'm quoting from someone else 567 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:47,360 and i don't know where i'm quoting some guy says he probably has both feet 568 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:54,400 someone was talking to him on the phone we both watch it running on his website so it's on his 569 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,920 website pull it up i hope it's there brightly colored water sloshes around the map according to 570 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:05,600 that day's weather and tides meccridi uses the model to predict where an oil spill would travel 571 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:12,640 over the course of three days as they watch whoever that is someone with parker mccree 572 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:19,200 black blobs and this is gonna be noted up in the notes okay i'm not stealing i'll find it 573 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:27,200 as we watch black blobs appear near seattle in tukoma simulating the hypothetical oil spill 574 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:32,320 and immediately start flowing north into the puget sound ailing on rainbow colored squirrels that 575 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:39,680 depict moving waters of various salinites salinities salinities i caught that one soon the blobs break 576 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,560 apart into thin streams and dots spilling and sloshing in every direction as tides and currents 577 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:51,040 push them around as it turns out live ocean reveals an important key to the mystery why so many feet 578 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,120 are washing up here in particular the answer the sailish sea has the perfect storm of feet in 579 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:03,360 snaring properties i don't know if i would have put it that way there are way more island dense 580 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,920 areas where people would be drowning like is it just we don't care about them because they don't 581 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,760 speak a more common language like indonesia or malaysia it's not it has nothing to do with 582 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:21,280 population density it has more to do with the tides i believe in this specific area in the 583 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:27,280 salish sea which is like heavenly island dense area and you're i know you're not going to have 584 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,520 this answer but any heavily island dense area would have the same issue would it not like i don't see 585 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:41,360 an area like malaysia having that necessarily neat that the tides are gonna be exactly the same 586 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:47,600 not exactly the same but like anything with a current with a magnitude of islands is going to 587 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:53,920 push things ashore particularly like debris yeah and i didn't look into any other area just in this 588 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,440 research this is specific to this area so it would all have to do no and nobody talks about any other 589 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,080 area i yeah it would all but you would think that it would be drawing attention because this is 590 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,600 drawn attention all over the world but i wonder if it is currently like an ethno-sacred ignorance 591 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,440 that brings it that way as in like this unique area for the english-speaking world and this actually 592 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:21,760 happens all the freaking time island dense areas but um we don't really care about most other densely 593 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:28,960 island areas because they don't speak our language i can't say but it is a unique situation what is 594 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:36,080 going on here arca micrity has this tidal map of everything working the reason's that at first it's 595 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:42,560 an unusually large and complex body of inland water which acts as a trap and as micrity's model 596 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:47,920 shows once something goes in the water it might wash ashore in plenty of places but it's still 597 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,680 within the sailor sea except for port renfrew second the prevailing winds are westliers so 598 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,480 they bring stuff in from the ocean rather than pushing it out to sea and finally there's something 599 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:03,680 micrity's model doesn't show but he points it out you see a lot of forks wearing sneakers at the 600 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:09,760 beach in the pacific northwest where many choose to hike among the slippery rocks taken together 601 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,720 all these factors plus the cool deep waters and healthy scavenger populations make this a sailor 602 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,280 sea an ideal flip magnet i'm not sure where the slippery rocks comes from because most of these 603 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:27,360 were suicides unfortunately so yeah that's the end of the episode mystery i mean there's not much 604 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:33,360 to the mystery there isn't a serial killer it's natural causes this is due to tides and due to 605 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:39,520 sneakers i mean the real mystery here is what's up with the boots i guess if we're gonna say anything 606 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,080 about it what kind of boots why boots i'm assuming the boots are leather it could be rubber boots 607 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:52,000 that is a kind of it could be rubber boots i never thought of that i thought of like fancy pirate 608 00:59:52,000 --> 01:00:00,960 boots i just thought of cowboy boots yeah and i look i totally understand the albert cowboy that 609 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:07,360 went to the coast and and got way out of their depth quite literally in the ocean saying oh no 610 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,120 it's super shallow right now don't worry about it and then the tide comes in and that's why we need 611 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:18,400 more information on the boot there's so many fucking kinds of different boots why they didn't 612 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:23,520 disclose that information but i have a huge problem with that now that we just meant both were 613 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,200 thinking of different boots anyhow that's it that's the end of my episode yeah and i think we gave you 614 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,360 many a great topic again to bring up in the affairs in your life as you grow more cultured with us 615 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:41,680 as a both a listener and an experiencer of Journey to the Fringe and here we leave you with 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