1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 So this intro may be a very mainstream news source. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,360 It's the fun one, right? 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Yes, this is the fun one. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Okay, good. 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,160 This article, I'm sure everybody missed 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,560 and we just need to go over it. 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Okay. 8 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,120 It is from Fox News, posted on November 1st, 2022 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 and is written by Ashley Carnahan. 10 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Texas homeowner says, 11 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,220 hooker ghosts have taken over rental property. 12 00:00:24,220 --> 00:00:26,360 They're trying to stir up business. 13 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,200 So here's the article, it's super short. 14 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,440 So I'm just gonna read the whole thing. 15 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,860 From Foxy. 16 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:33,760 Yeah, on Fox. 17 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,700 A Texas woman made a spooky discovery 18 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:37,320 about her rental home in Gainesville 19 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,320 after several renters claimed it was haunted. 20 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,560 Linda Hill, owner of the Hill House Manor, 21 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,000 told Jessie Waters prime time on Monday, 22 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,080 she was taking a shower 23 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,800 when she heard someone say, looking good. 24 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,240 I thought it was my husband. 25 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,040 I mean, he and I were the only ones in the house, she said. 26 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,200 However, it was not her husband making the comments. 27 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,840 It was a ghost, she added. 28 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,360 It spoke to him, you know? 29 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,360 He told me I was looking good. 30 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,800 I said thank you and I asked him 31 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,400 what he had been doing that day. 32 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,680 And we had a conversation and he left. 33 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Hill explained. 34 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,120 She added that she believes the home 35 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,160 has many different types of ghosts. 36 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,280 We've got kids and we've got old people, 37 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 old guys and we've got hookers. 38 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,080 That's what she told Jessie Waters, 39 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,160 the most common type of ghosts 40 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,800 that come around are hookers, Hill claimed. 41 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,260 Male renters, she said, 42 00:01:23,260 --> 00:01:24,840 have told her that they have felt somebody 43 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,560 stroking their face, stroking their arm 44 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,620 or touching their shoulder. 45 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:29,280 That sounds to me more like a masseuse 46 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,760 than a ghost over the butt. 47 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,020 Host Jessie Waters quipped that the good thing 48 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:35,680 about hooker ghosts was that you do not have to pay it. 49 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,680 That's right, Hill responded. 50 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,100 They try to stir up business, 51 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:40,840 but they can't figure out a way to conclude 52 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,360 the transaction so nothing ever happens. 53 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,600 The Hill House Manor owner said a ghost 54 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,400 did follow a renter home one time, 55 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,520 but eventually got tired. 56 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,840 She said that she told the man 57 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,520 to tell the ghost to come home. 58 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,120 And they did, she came back up here. 59 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,640 The rental home reportedly has been a popular spot 60 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,680 in recent months for paranormal investigators 61 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,480 staying the night to figure out the alleged phenomena. 62 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,720 And that's the article. 63 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,320 What an article. 64 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 There's a video version of it that's three minutes long too, 65 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 but I think you got the gist, 66 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,520 but my God, just yes, listen to her say these things. 67 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,160 Don't listen to Jessie Waters. 68 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 There's no more snugness in the world out there 69 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,600 than Jessie Waters. 70 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,360 But yeah, that's enough about that. 71 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Let's talk about other things. 72 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Cue music. 73 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,220 Okay. 74 00:02:28,220 --> 00:02:31,220 ["Journey to the Fringe"] 75 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:35,600 From the unexplained to the mundane, 76 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,560 come join us on a journey to the fringe. 77 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, 78 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,400 where Santa and his slave labor go to relax 79 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,000 after the Christmas season. 80 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,900 We are your relaxing hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, 81 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:55,600 here today to bring in the jolly season 82 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,000 with technically only one Christmas episode this year. 83 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 That's right, we have kept it to just one. 84 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,140 Legally speaking, those elves episodes 85 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:04,800 are not Christmas episodes. 86 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,720 And today, Chelsea is going to adorn us 87 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,000 with tales of Krampus. 88 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,500 And I think that's at least enough of an introduction 89 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:14,120 that you can take over from here, Chelsea. 90 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Yeah, I think that was good, 91 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,900 unless you're gonna do the episode. 92 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:19,280 I don't frankly have enough information. 93 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 I know the term and I know it rhymes with campus. 94 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,980 So I could do a little song, 95 00:03:23,980 --> 00:03:25,680 but I'm not prepared enough for it. 96 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Okay. 97 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,480 I would like to hear that one day though. 98 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Okay. 99 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,440 It's that time of year again, 100 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,120 and there's nothing more annoying 101 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,800 than a naughty little boy or girl 102 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,280 who's misbehaving any time of year. 103 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Sound familiar? 104 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Boy, do I ever have a solution for you. 105 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Enter Krampus. 106 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,500 Half man, half goat. 107 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:47,720 No, not the poplick monster. 108 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 This is another more seasonal goat man. 109 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Does he have a bad lax at least? 110 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Is he after the urine? 111 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 He's not, no, not this one. 112 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Those are the cute goats from Washington's. 113 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Now I'm just thinking about hooker ghosts. 114 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Get your mind out of the paranormal gutter, Chelsea. 115 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,440 I can't. 116 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Especially after laughing. 117 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Now let me think about it. 118 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,440 My intro and my opening lines 119 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,840 actually make a lot of sense together 120 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:20,080 where Santa's relaxing. 121 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Yeah. 122 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Oh man. 123 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,280 So go ahead. 124 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,520 So Krampus hails from the European region. 125 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,000 So the Austria Alpine region, 126 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,040 as well as Germany, Bavaria. 127 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,320 He comes around every year 128 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,640 to chase those naughty little bastards around, 129 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,920 and occasionally he even drags them to hell. 130 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,320 They should be, some of them. 131 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Some of them really do, I'm gonna be honest. 132 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,280 He also appears in folklore in Croatia, 133 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,720 the Czech Republic, Hungary, Northern Italy, 134 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Autonomous province of Trento. 135 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Never heard of that. 136 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,720 And South Tyrol, Slovakia, and Slovenia. 137 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,160 There's a lot of places. 138 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,640 There's a lot of folklore. 139 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,600 So I'm just going on the general consensus. 140 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,440 This is not necessarily gonna fit 141 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,600 what you've heard about Krampus. 142 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,480 What I am doing focuses mostly on the Austria Alpine region 143 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,400 and Bavaria. 144 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,200 If you have any other Krampus stories, 145 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,440 we'd be happy to hear them. 146 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,080 If you've seen Krampus, 147 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,160 if you're from the Autonomous province of Trento, 148 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,800 and Krampus is totally different there, 149 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,840 we wanna hear from you. 150 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:22,680 So- 151 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Oh, it's one of those damn Italian tax havens. 152 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,360 What is? 153 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Oh, okay. 154 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Yeah. 155 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Well, that's disappointing. 156 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Looks beautiful. 157 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,480 It's an Italian tax haven. 158 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Okay, makes sense. 159 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 I don't know why they wouldn't just say also Italy. 160 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Okay, he's the right-hand man everyone needs, 161 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 but sadly he's already spoken for 162 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,040 by good old St. Nicholas. 163 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,600 Who doesn't do shit to the bad kids? 164 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Yeah, he can't touch them. 165 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,280 He gives them coal. 166 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,280 Coal's a useful item. 167 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:49,120 Yeah. 168 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Especially back when they were saying 169 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,440 coal's through the bad kids. 170 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Like, I don't know if they still say that anymore, but like, 171 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,280 yeah. Well, coal is through the bad kids 172 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,680 and it's from Krampus, actually. 173 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Oh. Yeah. 174 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,000 He is as synonymous with the Jolly Red Bastard 175 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,240 as Thelma and Louise, Bonnie and Clyde, Rick and Morty, 176 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Wayne and Garth, Bert and Ernie. 177 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,880 And just add this one to your repertoire, 178 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,320 if you ever need to name them. Kelsey and Taylor. 179 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,160 Yeah. 180 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Yeah. Kelsey and Taylor. 181 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,320 If you ever need to say like infamous duos, 182 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Santi Claus and Krampus. 183 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,880 There you go. 184 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Krampus has many variations, 185 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,480 but some common characteristics, 186 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,160 and I'm not sure about South Tyrol. 187 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,080 I never looked at it, 188 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,600 but here's a couple of characteristics of Krampus, 189 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,280 two of which I've already spoiled for you, man and goat, 190 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:38,240 but he's also hairy, usually brown or black, 191 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 oven hooves, touches a goat. 192 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,360 Quick question. 193 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Is he hairy all over or hairy on the goat parts? 194 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Either or. 195 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,320 It depends. 196 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,160 Okay. 197 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Depends on the legend, person, region. 198 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,720 Just depends, really. 199 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Both, none, some. 200 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Okay. 201 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 I at least hope the goat half is covered, 202 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,880 or at least it's not anatomically correct. 203 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,720 Right. 204 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,600 Cause that's just gonna give me nightmares. 205 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,800 I'm sorry, this episode's already that way. 206 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Cloven hooves, such as a goat, goat horns, 207 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,120 also that of a goat. 208 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,800 He also has a long pointed tongue, such as a demon, 209 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 and fangs, such as a vampire. 210 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,200 And those such as are from me. 211 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,880 They, we don't really, 212 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,800 there was no comparison to a vampire or a demon. 213 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,400 I mean, he looks like a demon, 214 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,280 if you were to see a picture of him. 215 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,520 He carries chains thought to symbolize the binding 216 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,440 of the devil by the Christian church. 217 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Sometimes there are also bells of different sizes 218 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,040 that he's carrying. 219 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,400 He also carries a root of pagan origins, 220 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,520 and this is a bundle of birch branches 221 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,440 that he whips the children with. 222 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Sometimes it's replaced with an actual whip. 223 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,920 He really wants to get the point across. 224 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Maybe some children were confused 225 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,480 about what the beautiful branches were for. 226 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Yeah. 227 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Oh, the branch is hitting me. 228 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,120 That must mean I'm gaining favor with some pagan god. 229 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Yeah. 230 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,480 No, you need to know you're being whipped. 231 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Exactly. 232 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,200 Sometimes he carries a basket on his back or a sack, 233 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,200 store the children before he drowns, 234 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 eats or transports them to hell. 235 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,160 You gotta keep the hands free. 236 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,800 It's just common sense. 237 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,240 While St. Nicholas would visit the children 238 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,160 rewarding the well-behaved children with modest gifts, 239 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,920 such as oranges, dried fruits, walnuts and chocolate, 240 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,640 modest indeed, 241 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Krampus would punish the badly behaved children 242 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,400 with birch rods and coal and et cetera. 243 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Breaking to hell. 244 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,600 No, you get the drift now. 245 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Jift. 246 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Huh. Jift. 247 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,120 What is the word? 248 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,080 I just saw this gist. 249 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Gist. 250 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,160 South Tyrol is in Italy, 251 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,920 but according to their last census, 252 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,840 96.89% of the population speaks German. 253 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,680 Also it'd be like Northern Italy. 254 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,160 It's in very Northern Italy. 255 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Yeah, South Tyrol in Northern Italy. 256 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:52,760 Well, it just... 257 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,360 As a population of 2,500. 258 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 It's named a bunch of Italian places. 259 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Oh, I should have looked more into this before I said it. 260 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,360 I would have just said Italy. 261 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Okay. 262 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Now let's talk about Krampus not. 263 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:04,840 Yes, that sounds right. 264 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,840 The feast of St. Nicholas is slash was celebrated December 6th. 265 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,840 On the evening before, that would be December 5th. 266 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,240 For those of you who don't want to think about math right now 267 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,320 cause you're relaxing. 268 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 After our last episode, always be doing math 269 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,160 or you're insane. 270 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Just saying you know. 271 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Always. 272 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Or else you're insane. 273 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,960 Krampus would appear on the streets 274 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,720 and visit the badly behaved ones 275 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,680 who received punishment in the form of birch rods. 276 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,960 Sometimes he would accompany St. Nicholas 277 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,800 and sometimes he would just go out vigilante style on his own. 278 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Children might have also seen Krampus 279 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,440 running through the street during a Krampuslof. 280 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Literally Krampus run. 281 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,800 And this is where adults would dress up 282 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,200 and wear animal skins and carved wooden masks. 283 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 They had bells tied onto their costumes 284 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,480 so that people could hear the clanking 285 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,920 coming through the darkness. 286 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 And they carried long sticks. 287 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Sometimes they would wear change 288 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,360 that they would sometimes wear are thought 289 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,480 to be related to the idea of the creatures 290 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 being bound to their place in the underworld. 291 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,040 All the sacks that they carry are to take 292 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,440 very bad children away from them. 293 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Thankfully so, the children were seriously afraid of Krampus 294 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,800 and I don't imagine many would love to attend 295 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,240 this Krampus run because they'd be tossed into the sack 296 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,280 and dragged through the snow. 297 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,080 So this was a harmless way for regular human adults 298 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,960 to blow off steam. 299 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,560 I'm not sure how many kids actually attended 300 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,760 and scare the shit out of the kids 301 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,240 we've all put up with year round. 302 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,680 So just like a fun thing to do. 303 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:39,520 In these towns they did sell masks. 304 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,600 I believe they still do, but there was like this onslaught 305 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,880 of drunken like shenanigans going on around town 306 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 and they just had like a really big problem 307 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,800 with it for a while for the Krampus run. 308 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:57,680 Fun fact, in the aftermath of the 1932 election in Austria 309 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:02,000 Krampus tradition was prohibited by the Dolphus regime. 310 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,560 That's totally right the way I said it. 311 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:07,800 You're the clerical fascist fatherlands front 312 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,720 and the Christian social party. 313 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,880 In the 1950s the government distributed pamphlets 314 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,440 titled Krampus is an evil man. 315 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Towards the end of the century a population- 316 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Wait, were there questions about whether or not 317 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Krampus was evil before that? 318 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:22,400 There obviously were. 319 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 I thought that was the whole point of him. 320 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,040 There obviously were and it just needed 321 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,800 further clarification. 322 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Like I feel like the rebuttal is, 323 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,200 yeah that's the point of the character. 324 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Yeah, everyone was like, yeah he is. 325 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Yeah, we get it. 326 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,840 Let's continue with the Krampus run. 327 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,960 Yeah, no let's go put those kids in the sack and drag them. 328 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Yeah, or there's a person who reads it 329 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,280 and they're like, he is? 330 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,520 This is shocking news. 331 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,780 I had no idea. 332 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:53,040 I had no idea. 333 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,040 As an adult it has no impact on my life whatsoever. 334 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,320 I guess when you think about it, hindsight. 335 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Yeah, a few of those things, it makes sense. 336 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,160 So towards the end of the century 337 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,560 a popular resurgence of Krampus celebrations occurred 338 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:15,540 and they do continue to this day in these areas. 339 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:18,380 As of today many of the larger cities and towns 340 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:21,840 have formal processions which tend to be fairly orderly 341 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,520 so nothing like the Krampus run 342 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,320 that I was talking about above. 343 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,680 I mean, those aren't the ones you probably wanna go to. 344 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,640 You wanna go to the small towns where everybody's drinking 345 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,880 and there's a lot of like shenanigans and rests 346 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,700 I guess going on. 347 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:36,840 Probably don't bring your small child along 348 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,200 unless you don't like them. 349 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Then bring the small child. 350 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Yeah, unless they're being really naughty 351 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,720 and then you should bring them. 352 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Since the people inside the Krampus costumes 353 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,780 are usually young men, 354 00:12:49,780 --> 00:12:52,760 many of the more organized clubs who keep this tradition 355 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,960 alive delegate some older members 356 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 to keep an eye on what's going on. 357 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,240 See, no fun. 358 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,060 Some locations even order the Krampus costumes 359 00:13:01,060 --> 00:13:03,880 to be numbered so that onlookers have evidence 360 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,960 of who may have stepped over the line in case of dispute. 361 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Where's the fun in that? 362 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,960 And I mean, this also speaks for things 363 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,400 probably getting out of hand in Krampus runs in the past. 364 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Now they have to number the suits 365 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,000 so they know which Krampus exactly overstepped. 366 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Oh yeah. 367 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,760 My kid's got broken ribs. 368 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,680 It was Krampus 42. 369 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:27,520 Yeah. 370 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,480 In Styria, the route is presented by Krampus to families. 371 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Twigs are painted gold and displayed year round in the house. 372 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Reminder to any child who has temporarily forgotten Krampus. 373 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,320 In smaller, more isolated villages, 374 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,280 the figure has other beastly companions 375 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,120 such as the antlered wild man figures 376 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,240 and St. Nicholas is nowhere to be seen. 377 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,140 So I would eat that. 378 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,680 Simply like demons, no Santa Claus. 379 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,240 It's the way to creep the Christmas spirit all year round. 380 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,080 No, and- 381 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,200 By hanging a root that will whip your child 382 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,040 if they're bad. 383 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,860 I was just gonna say, 384 00:14:09,860 --> 00:14:12,960 could you imagine like a golden whip like above the door 385 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,200 just as a reminder? 386 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Oh my God. 387 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,480 These Styrian companions of Krampus are called 388 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Shabman or Rahen. 389 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,480 I don't know what Styria is. 390 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Isn't it one of the autonomous states? 391 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,760 Southeast of Austria. 392 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,920 It's a state. 393 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Yeah, it's in Austria. 394 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,840 In many parts of Croatia, 395 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,960 Krampus is described as a devil wearing a cloth sack 396 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,480 around his waist and chains around his neck, 397 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,180 ankles, and wrists. 398 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:45,320 As a part of tradition, 399 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,880 when a child receives a gift from St. Nicholas, 400 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,480 he is given a golden branch 401 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,480 to represent his good deeds throughout the year. 402 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,360 However, if the child has misbehaved, 403 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Krampus will take the gifts for himself 404 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,040 and leave only a silver branch 405 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,360 to represent the child's bad acts. 406 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,600 I mean, this Krampus seems better than the other Krampus. 407 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Yeah, yeah, he doesn't beat the shit out of you. 408 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Way better. 409 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,720 He just gives you silver, 410 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,120 which is a good command. 411 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,120 And he's not throwing you in a sack to drown you. 412 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,280 So there's that. 413 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Though the origins are not totally clear. 414 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,840 It's originally thought to have come 415 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,800 from the old pre-Christian pagan myths 416 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,880 involving beasts from the forest 417 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,720 and creatures such as satyrs. 418 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,240 And the Krampus became linked 419 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 with St. Nicholas in the Middle Ages. 420 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,200 We did a really good episode last Christmas. 421 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,480 You may want to check out 422 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,360 on some pagan Christmas traditions. 423 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,480 I highly recommend. 424 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,840 I learned a lot doing the research for this one. 425 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,800 So Krampus could potentially come from back there. 426 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Celebrations date back to at least the sixth 427 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,880 or seventh century. 428 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,720 However, there's no written sources for Krampus 429 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,960 before the end of the 16th century. 430 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Anyhow, like a lot of pagan traditions 431 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,240 we know and love today, 432 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,500 Krampus was absorbed into the Christian calendar of sorts 433 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:10,500 and Saint tradition in some places, not all places. 434 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,120 So then there's the Krampus curtain. 435 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:18,260 German and these languages are crazy. 436 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:21,100 I just think they're the craziest languages. 437 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:22,500 The Krampus postcards. 438 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,020 So if you're traveling to Germany or Austria 439 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:27,260 make sure you pick up one of these bad boys 440 00:16:27,260 --> 00:16:29,860 cause this is a whole other Krampus craze. 441 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:32,860 One's marked Gruss vom Krampus, 442 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:35,180 which means greetings from Krampus, 443 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:38,980 showed Krampus stuffing a distressed child into a satchel 444 00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:42,860 or preparing to hit one with his bundle of birch sticks. 445 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:45,300 Many of these postcards depicted Krampus 446 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,580 going after children with his sticks, 447 00:16:47,580 --> 00:16:50,780 leading them away in chains or carrying them off in his bag. 448 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:53,580 The cards usually have humorous rhymes or poems. 449 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:55,700 I'm gonna post some of these on social media. 450 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,860 They're super creepy. 451 00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:59,140 Like he straight up looks like a demon 452 00:16:59,140 --> 00:17:01,260 and they're super popular. 453 00:17:01,260 --> 00:17:04,240 The older ones, if you can find like vintage ones, 454 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,480 they're pretty risque. 455 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,700 They're still a really popular thing in Christmas markets now 456 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:12,780 along with masks, mugs and stuff like that. 457 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:15,600 They brand him all over the place in these regions. 458 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,060 And he's recently gained popularity as well, 459 00:17:19,060 --> 00:17:22,540 more in North America with the horror movie Krampus. 460 00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:24,540 And it's just a lot more popular culture 461 00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:26,180 he's coming in again. 462 00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:27,840 I really liked the legend. 463 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,500 I think it's kind of good. 464 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:31,980 I love it that it's the good with the bad. 465 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:35,300 Like you get rewarded, but we don't have the like, 466 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:36,860 you get on the naughty list. 467 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:37,980 Like what's gonna happen? 468 00:17:37,980 --> 00:17:38,900 I don't get a toy. 469 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:42,060 Like this is just taking it to another, 470 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:44,180 a whole other level. 471 00:17:44,180 --> 00:17:45,220 Krampus. 472 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:46,140 Oh God. 473 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:48,100 Can you imagine just switching to that one day? 474 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,900 Oh no, it's not just naughty list anymore. 475 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:52,060 Like you might get drowned in the sack. 476 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:52,900 Yeah. 477 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:54,580 Like I quite enjoy it. 478 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:57,660 It's not just like you're on the naughty list. 479 00:17:57,660 --> 00:18:00,080 There is actual punishment for it. 480 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,220 Like you're gonna reap the opposite of rewards 481 00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:04,940 for you being here. Yeah. 482 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:05,780 Yeah. 483 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:06,620 It's karma. 484 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:07,460 And I like that. 485 00:18:07,460 --> 00:18:10,780 Who doesn't like karma for all those misbehaving kids? 486 00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:14,020 And that is a super short episode. 487 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:15,980 That's what I got on Krampus. 488 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:17,700 I take it there's no actual, 489 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:19,860 there's no actual Krampus sightings out there. 490 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:21,220 Unfortunately are there. 491 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:22,260 You know what? 492 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:24,180 I've heard a few. 493 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:26,260 I wasn't really a big fan of the sightings. 494 00:18:26,260 --> 00:18:27,980 So I didn't include them 495 00:18:27,980 --> 00:18:30,140 cause it was more kind of like, 496 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:31,500 I got a weird feeling. 497 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,260 So I looked outside and no, I didn't like them. 498 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:35,940 I didn't want to include them. 499 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:39,460 None that I could find that seemed to be any fun at all. 500 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:40,860 Okay. 501 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:41,700 Yeah. 502 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:44,260 It does really fill a void that is out there 503 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:46,340 with regards to kids who just say, 504 00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:48,420 okay, I just, I guess I won't get a present. 505 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,020 What do you do to those children? 506 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:53,820 Of course you threaten them with being beaten and drowned. 507 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:55,460 Yeah. I mean, the threat right now 508 00:18:55,460 --> 00:18:56,700 is that you don't get a present, 509 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:59,620 which is generally thought of as good enough. 510 00:18:59,620 --> 00:19:00,980 Yeah. Cause let's face it, 511 00:19:00,980 --> 00:19:02,620 who knows actually where to get coal 512 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:05,460 for their kids these days if they're misbehaving. 513 00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:08,060 Like- If you get coal, it's like candy coal. 514 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:11,860 Yeah. Like who actually has the audacity as a parent 515 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:14,060 to say like, no, I'm going to hunt down 516 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:15,580 and find some coal to give. 517 00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:17,220 Like that's going to take a lot of effort 518 00:19:17,220 --> 00:19:18,900 and you might as well just get them a toy. 519 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:20,500 Honestly, if you're going to spend that much time 520 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:22,300 and effort getting it, get them a fucking toy. 521 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:24,860 And I love how much it seems 522 00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:28,700 this cultural thing was like the adults took so much pleasure 523 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:31,460 and being like, I'm getting my just desserts 524 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:33,300 from these little bastards. 525 00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:37,180 Yeah. It's truly the Christmas for adults. 526 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:38,740 Yes it is. 527 00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:41,420 The gift that keeps on giving for adults only. 528 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:44,500 And with that, we wish you adults who are listening now 529 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,860 a very happy holiday season. 530 00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:49,340 We will return next week with another episode. 531 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:51,900 Thank you all for listening and we will see you next week. 532 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:52,740 Bye. 533 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:56,940 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 534 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:59,180 If you have liked what you have listened to, 535 00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:03,060 please like, share, subscribe or follow 536 00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:06,060 depending on what venue you are listening to us through. 537 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:09,700 Also, please, if possible, leave a five-star review 538 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,180 as that really helps us in the algorithms. 539 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:14,140 Should you wish to interact with us, 540 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:17,340 please check us out on your social media of choice. 541 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:18,740 I bet you we are there. 542 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:21,060 And if you really want to communicate with us 543 00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:23,140 and give us ideas for new episodes 544 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:25,620 or tell us that we're wrong and terrible, either way, 545 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:30,380 please send us an email at journeytothefringeatgmail.com. 546 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:32,580 For now, I'll see you in the next episode. 547 00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:54,940 THEEND