1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,980 Okay, so Chelsea there was a fairly important election in Brazil that happened in the last few weeks 2 00:00:07,740 --> 00:00:13,100 Okay, Alula de Silva versus Bolsonaro. I think a fight they have yeah 3 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:18,760 It does and honestly if you go listen to their like debates, it's literally just insulting each other 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,480 So it was pretty great 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,980 Especially if you listen to it with the dubs because you know, I don't speak any Portuguese 6 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:29,860 So it doesn't help me to just see somebody profusely. That's true. It is quite nice 7 00:00:29,860 --> 00:00:36,720 Sometimes though to just hear you know, like in other languages and yeah, Lula came out which is great news for the Amazon rainforest 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:43,440 But I learned something I had no idea about before this while I was learning about Brazil Chelsea 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Have you ever heard of the Confederados? Oh, okay. This is going to be it does 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:55,140 It's a very weird subgroup in Brazil and I have found an article on it 11 00:00:55,140 --> 00:00:57,320 I can't tell you the title just because it kind of gives it away 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:05,320 Okay, it was posted on history.com on June 22nd 2020 and it's about the US Civil War of all things 13 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,560 So by the time the Civil War ended in 1865 much of the South laid in ruins physically 14 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,960 economically and socially fears of Yankee reprisal and racial conflict 15 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Herculated through society enslaved people had been freed Confederate President Jefferson Davis was imprisoned for William H 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Norris a former Alabama State Senator and staunch Confederate. It was all too much to bear rather than rejoin the United States 17 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 He and his son traveled to southeastern Brazil in late 18 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,640 1865 and purchased about 500 acres of rolling hills and reddish soil that reminded them of Alabama 19 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:45,960 They then bought three enslaved workers planted cotton sent for the rest of the family and proceeded to live as if the Confederacy had 20 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:52,420 Not collapsed the Norris family was not alone in their desire to avoid Yankee rule in the decade after the Civil War 21 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:56,980 Roughly ten thousand and I've seen this number anywhere from three thousand to forty thousand 22 00:01:57,340 --> 00:02:05,380 Southerners left the United States with the majority going to Brazil where slavery was still legal though hardships prompted most to come 23 00:02:05,380 --> 00:02:08,600 Right back descendants of the so-called Confederados 24 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:15,420 Maintain a presence in Brazil even today amid the post Civil War chaos several countries tried to entice Southerners 25 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,640 Largely for political and agricultural reasons in Mexico 26 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:25,940 For example Emperor Maximilian the first soon to be executed before a firing squad ordered land and tax breaks and hired Confederate 27 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:30,180 Oceanographer Matthew Fontaine Mori to be his Imperial Commissioner of Immigration 28 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:35,620 the best incentives however came from Brazilian Emperor Dom Pedro the second a 29 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:39,780 Confederate ally who had sheltered and supplied southern ships during the Civil War 30 00:02:39,780 --> 00:02:43,180 he offered land to the Confederados for as little as 31 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:50,820 22 cents an anchor and subsidized their transport to Brazil provided temporary lodging upon arrival and promised them quick citizenship 32 00:02:50,820 --> 00:02:54,020 And at times even personally greeted them as they disembarked 33 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:00,960 Much of the southern media opposed the Exodus as did Robert E Lee who believed all efforts should go towards rebuilding the South 34 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,300 But Dom Pedro counter-attacked by taking out advertisements in US newspapers 35 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:11,460 Meanwhile pro colonization Southerners produced glowing reports that portrayed Brazil as a tropical paradise 36 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:15,320 Of course when they got there, it was nothing like what they had been told 37 00:03:16,580 --> 00:03:22,060 Dom Pedro seemingly had two main motives for luring in the Confederados the first of which was agricultural 38 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:28,540 He saw these people as bringing new technologies and new abilities in farming Brazil, which in fact they did what a target market 39 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:31,840 Yeah, this big market will bring it to Brazil 40 00:03:31,860 --> 00:03:32,360 Yeah 41 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:39,020 And it's because Brazil didn't outlaw slavery for another I think about 30 years after the Confederacy fell 42 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:43,900 So they just moved there and continued their practice and they basically said these people know how to run slaves 43 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,260 So let's just get them to run our farms 44 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:52,960 What a terrifying vertical and they brought with them watermelons and pecans into their new country along with state-of-the-art plows 45 00:03:53,540 --> 00:04:01,020 Furthermore, it was public policy in Brazil to whiten society by bringing in Europeans and European descended Americans at the time 46 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:07,740 Slave leader made legal in Brazil which over the course of its history imported more than ten times as many enslaved people as the United States 47 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:14,300 In fact, it did not ban the practice until 1888 becoming the last country in the Western Hemisphere to do so 48 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:19,540 Sorry is a little bit off on that 30 years, but it was a lot longer still and in 1865 49 00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:25,980 They didn't even have an abolitionist movement in Brazil. So I found that crazy that that happened and 50 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:34,020 Chelsea I just need you to google image search Confederado Brazil festival. Oh, no, I want to 51 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:36,680 Yeah, it's just so bizarre to see 52 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Federado 53 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Brazil fest. Oh, no 54 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,220 Those are kids and that is modern-day. This is something that still lives on to this day 55 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:52,220 These people have why send it who are still practicing things and dressing up as Confederate soldiers 56 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,400 What's up with South America and like the Nazis went there? 57 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,240 Yeah 58 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,460 And Japanese people I still need to learn more about the southern Japanese 59 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:09,720 But there's a whole thing with that too just goes on it just gets more bizarre as I get older 60 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,720 What's going on in South America? 61 00:05:12,620 --> 00:05:15,260 Something this is so this is terrifying 62 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:22,340 I just found it so crazy that I was learning about Brazil during the election and this is something that I learned about I 63 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:30,660 Never I had to share a thought that what happened to the people that didn't want to outlaw slavery 64 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:35,220 Yeah, of course, they're gonna go because they were basically I wouldn't say colonized 65 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:38,420 But the north basically came in and watched them with a fine-tooth comb 66 00:05:38,540 --> 00:05:44,260 There's a few things that about their culture that really take on that security level that they had or I guess 67 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:47,220 Watchman level that they had over them and some of them just said nah 68 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:52,980 No, I really like that slave situation and we're gonna be treated like shit here. So let's just go to Brazil and yeah 69 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:58,500 They wanted to they wanted to whitewash the country. So they were on the same page. It's kind of we're all 70 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:00,500 Forfied. Yeah 71 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:06,660 I'm speechless. I'm speechless. Yeah, so um with that everybody 72 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:13,180 Please go google Confederado Brazil festivals and look at those pictures that come up like it is bizarre 73 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:19,620 It is really bizarre and there's a lot of kid pictures dressed up in garb. I guess we could call like yeah 74 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:22,360 And with that I think we can start the episode 75 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:30,360 From the unexplained to the mundane come join us on a journey to the fringe 76 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:43,940 Hello and welcome to journey to the fringe the place where animals get freaky at least from an investigatory point of view 77 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:51,380 We are your creepy animal behavior talking people Taylor and Chelsea here today talking about some cryptids 78 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:56,960 No, it has been a long time in the making so I actually can't remember it is a Chelsea episode and I can't remember 79 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,320 What her topic is so I'm gonna let her take it over from here. You got what you said, right? 80 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,700 Yeah, let everybody who's listening as well as Taylor who's also listening in on what my episode is about 81 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:18,120 I thought it was about time for another moth person episode. It's not by popular demand 82 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,760 It's just by my demand because I quite enjoy a good moth person episode 83 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:30,360 You're drawn to it like a person to a flame late. Yes any any light it could be any late and I love that person 84 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,960 I know in my previous Mothman episode moth person episode. Excuse me 85 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,640 It was the Chicago variety mentioned that there was a huge amount of sightings in the Lake Michigan area 86 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Apparently not just of the moth person variety 87 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:50,160 I also learned that there's a lot of strange and unusual happenings going on in the area including flying humanoids 88 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,240 But also UFOs and orbs and things it just crazy stuff in particular going on 89 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:02,120 There's also like a Lake Michigan triangle. They have tried to listen to a podcast on it, but they're boring. Yeah, so I'm not gonna show 90 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,440 I'm so upset that like the triangle is the only 91 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Paranormal shape unless you kind of get into the like Saturn death cults or the past Saturn's rings kind of group 92 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Which then hexagon kind of becomes a paranormal shape but outside of that 93 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,240 It's just triangles you want to talk about any other shapes your shit out of luck 94 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,280 It's true. They should make it more interesting like by changing it up and stuff like that 95 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,100 I mean, there's a pentagram, but you never hear is that referred to as a spook no 96 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:33,560 I've never heard of the Alaskan pentagram unless you're talking about those gays that go to the park and sorry 97 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:35,560 I that I use that very slurry 98 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:41,560 But please go back and listen to Satanic panic at the daycare to kind of get that reference plus 99 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:45,440 It's a complicated shape. So yeah, it has many triangles in it 100 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Yeah, we have to think something more naturally occurring like the don't think squares are naturally occurring 101 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Oh, sometimes they are in like rock formations. Yeah, that's neither here. Also triangles don't really actually occur anywhere 102 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,560 That's true as well except in mysterious places. Yeah, maybe that's the thing 103 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:09,120 You know what? No, it is the least amount of work because you only have to find three connecting locations 104 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,080 That's true. You could find one and just circle back 105 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,900 No, if you're gonna go for any other shape like to get to get a surface area 106 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:25,480 You need three points minimum and everybody's just putting in the minimum work. No, you could circle it a city. That's paranormal 107 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,920 It's a minimum. Yeah, but then even then they're gonna they're gonna find a triangle in that city where all the paranormal shit happens 108 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 That's true. But then I guess 109 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,280 And it's cuz the triangle is the most paranormal shape of course 110 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Because it's the most powerful shape 111 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Yes, it is and the pointiest of shapes 112 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:51,720 The most dangerous there's so many points. Okay, so not only did I learn little something about triangles 113 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Just now I also learned a little something while I was doing my research about geography in my research in this episode 114 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,180 Which is as much as I shouldn't admit this is that Chicago is directly on Lake Michigan 115 00:10:04,180 --> 00:10:11,640 So technically included in the Lake Michigan Moppers and Domino. Hey, it's confusing. Why do they there's a there's a Lake Ontario in there, too 116 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:18,080 Why do that the great unless it's fully in Ontario? No, it's not included. It's just like the Lake Michigan area 117 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,080 Yeah, which is what Chicago's on? 118 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:28,280 It's stupid. We we do terrible jobs with our geography in Western Society. Yeah and naming stuff. Sometimes I'm okay at it 119 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Yeah, the ones that really pissed me off actually sorry 120 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:36,840 Just I need to go on a naming tangent when you name something new and you also use another 121 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Adjective inside there like new Westminster what just call it new minster 122 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,440 You don't need two adjectives in there. Yes, you do 123 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,680 No, and then there's New South Wales like no you don't need that just new Wales 124 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,520 And West 125 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Minster I never thought about that before it bothers me so much 126 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,560 But there isn't a new minster, but there's a new West 127 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:11,180 Anyhow keep go ahead. Okay. Anyhow, that's why I was finding the same sightings for this original research 128 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:14,380 I guess but don't fret I have new and exciting sightings for you 129 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:19,400 I was that sounded weird together exciting sightings and just so you know the Chicago 130 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Oh hair sightings are still going strong just in case you're wondering they're still happening 131 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,040 Also as a repeat if you've listened to the previous episode shout out to the awesome sources 132 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,960 I went back to for these encounters UFO clearing house as well as phantoms and monsters 133 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:40,600 So let's jump in first sighting I have is from a retired Milwaukee Fire Department slash medical services 134 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,660 Officer in reference to a fire rescue they were doing in Milwaukee 135 00:11:44,660 --> 00:11:52,120 So the northwestern mutual south building in downtown Milwaukee was evacuated on the morning of Wednesday, November 26 136 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,700 2014 after smoke entered the building location was at 137 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,440 720 East Wisconsin around 8 a.m 138 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,620 And that triggered alarms to the Milwaukee Fire Department later that day during the early evening a fire slash 139 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Medical services call was made at the same location 140 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Window washer employee was trapped near the top of the northwestern mutual building the witness was the lead officer 141 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:19,460 He and another officer made their way to the top of the building after they ascended to the top of the building the witness 142 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:24,880 Noticed movement on top of the US Bank Center building at 777 East Wisconsin 143 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,680 Have approximately a half block away from their location at first 144 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:34,760 He thought it was just another person on top of the adjacent building but soon realized that this being had large wings 145 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,600 At the time it was early dusk, but enough ambient light was available in order to get a good description 146 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:47,480 He also noticed green goggles over the eyes later realized that this humanoid had bright green light 147 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:53,160 emanating from the eyes body was dark in color with a slight built body standing approximately 148 00:12:53,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Six feet the witness and his partner watched the winged humanoid unfurled its wings to a span of over 12 feet and without 149 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,180 Flapping slowly ascended into the air. So wait it has wings, but it doesn't actually need the wings 150 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:13,440 Yeah, I believe that came up in the last episode as well. Yeah, and I got caught off guard. I didn't do a relisten 151 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:20,180 I gotta say I just listened to it recently actually and I can't recall the reason and that's where this episode came from 152 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,640 But that you see both where they're actually using the wings and where they're not using the wings 153 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,600 The witness remarked how it flew effortlessly with its wings 154 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,340 Extended to the full width. It soon glided out of sight that one super creepy 155 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:40,440 I decided this one makes the cut because of the eye thing the green goggles over the eyes 156 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,440 But then he realized that he had bright green light emanating from the eyes you imagine 157 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:49,800 No, I can't actually reminds me of the first boss and Turtles in time for the Super Nintendo 158 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Like it's that bug guy and he's got the green goggles on. Oh, yeah, I remember that guy 159 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:01,080 I think that's who I've been picturing when I was picturing this guy. Okay, be honest. Okay next sighting 160 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,080 This one's going back to July 161 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:11,040 2006 on the 15th or 16th if you were wondering and the witness and her husband were in the process of moving from Milwaukee 162 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,720 Wisconsin to a small area between Whitewater 163 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,960 Eagle view I assume is Wisconsin was about 930 p.m 164 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,640 And there is a bright full moon in a clear sky. Nothing good ever happens at this moon 165 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:30,360 No clouds in the sky. We were traveling down highway 59 East asked Eagle turning onto Road X 166 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Obviously shouldn't want to name the road unless there's a road X 167 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,760 somewhat desolate stretch 168 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:42,360 thin band of trees are on each side of the road with open fields behind them this area is about 18 miles approximately 169 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,100 East of Whitewater located between Eagle and North Prairie, Wisconsin 170 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:50,460 My husband was driving his two young children in the backseat 171 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:56,600 I believe asleep suddenly swooping over the trees on our left lowering down in front of the car windshield 172 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Upwards again over the treetops to our right gliding and a slow ascent over the field is what I would describe as a man 173 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Bat like features flying like a bat perhaps why she would say that like features 174 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,140 This creature was as real as you and I are we had a very close look up at it 175 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:15,600 It was long six to seven feet in length 176 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:23,040 I say length because it was flying sideways looking into the car. Oh, that's so creepy much like doing the side stroke 177 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:29,440 It was dark gray very leathery skin one wing kind of tucked into its side one facing the ground 178 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:35,200 And the other flapping while it flew. Okay. Phew. It's both not flapping and flapping 179 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Wing was huge and exactly like bats. It got me the most were the eyes. They were very round 180 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,080 The whites would be looked for you me best way to this. I have never seen this word in my life 181 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Rhu emy 182 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:57,860 The word our H you sorry what our H you emy I'm pretty sure that's not a word. Oh it is 183 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Watery, that's disgusting. Okay, we we learned another thing 184 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,400 Chicago's on Lake Michigan and room. How would you say that? 185 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Fumi sorry, I'm I just went to the Google. I don't have the Oxford one up which would show me how to say it 186 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,760 It's really weird that this specific dictionary sentence example has roomy eyes 187 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Yeah, that's what mine says to me. Oh me. Yeah, there we go. Like rheumatoid arthritis. Yeah 188 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:32,020 Okay, so its eyes were looked roomy the best way to describe it that they must have been super close to be able to notice 189 00:16:32,020 --> 00:16:36,820 That the irises were of a very pale blue. I was not afraid 190 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:39,480 I was astounded amazed and even excited 191 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Husband was shook up and would not stop when I asked him to the kids were in the car. Would you stop? 192 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,920 He wait she asked him to stop. Do you stop? I mean only if they had room 193 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,600 Huh? 194 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,860 Huh? No, please don't stop 195 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Yeah, no, I don't know that I would stop I'd either speed up or slow down 196 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,800 If the thing slowed down with me, I'd probably speed up again 197 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,760 I mean she fed full autonomy probably to at least roll down her window. She wanted to 198 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Can you imagine though if your passenger rolled down the window with them playing next to you? 199 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:29,960 Maybe he wants to say something. I don't know I see and you're not pulling over 200 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Okay, so she goes on I hope this will also bring more people forward who have seen this mystery creature or other 201 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:43,240 creatures as well perhaps was reading recently online of a woman in Minot, Wisconsin who in about 202 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,520 1960 also had seen a creature of this description 203 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Notice that some who have witnessed this compared to the creature from the movie Jeepers Creepers. There are definitely similarities 204 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,320 I have never seen the movie or to my mind 205 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:01,680 And Lon Strickler gives a note on this sighting. He says it was on the edge of the Kettle Moraine 206 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Low Prairie State Natural area the pale blue eyes on the sideways flight using one wing is quite interesting 207 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,320 Out of all the sightings I've received over the years. These characteristics are unique 208 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:19,880 So that's another one. Oh these moth people that look like bats have been working on their flying tricks 209 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Yeah, obviously this one didn't move his wings, which probably takes some work a lot of work and probably concentration 210 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,400 And then the other one only moved one of its wings. He tucked it in did a fancy move with the other one 211 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,440 No, yeah 212 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,360 I thought the one on the bottom was like flapping and the one on top was tucked in one on the bottom was tucked in 213 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:44,200 I think the other one. Okay. Well what it was flapping. Yeah, one on the top. Yeah. Yeah, so 214 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:51,880 Yeah, they've they're they've been around for so long that they're training do like new and unique things to scare people 215 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,280 I guess okay. So next one April 13 2018 at about 10 to 10 30 p.m 216 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:04,440 You are parked in the parking lot next to redacted which is right off of redacted. I do not wish to discuss 217 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,680 I do not wish to discuss what we were parked there for so 218 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,600 I used to say it's a dark place to park at night a boyfriend looked up and totally freaked out when he says he saw a large 219 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:21,240 pair of glowing red eyes staring back at him looked up and saw something standing in front of my car with two glowing red eyes 220 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,480 It made a sound of chirping that we heard when we turned down the radio 221 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,000 And we moved it put what looked like a hand on the hood of the car 222 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,160 And then we saw what looked like wings spread wide open it panicked and turned red 223 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,920 On the car which automatically turned on my headlights and it lit up what looked like a large bat had black skin 224 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:45,080 That looked like glossy wet leather that shined in the light screamed at us pushing its head out in its arms back 225 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,120 Then flew up into the air can hear the wings flapping as it jumped up and within a few seconds 226 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:56,040 It landed behind my car its body still able to be seen when I pressed the brakes and the brake lights shined 227 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,040 The bus were screaming at us and we were like what is this? 228 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:09,640 The body still able to be seen when I pressed the brakes and the brake lights shined the bus were screaming at this point when it flew back up into the air and landed about six feet from the passenger side door where my boyfriend sat 229 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:15,400 Wasted no time in trying to get out of there as we backed up and whipped the car around we saw it land in front of us 230 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,880 We saw it land in front of us to the side of the car about three feet away 231 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:28,440 I can't stop thinking about that woman rolling down her window on the left 232 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:35,160 We wasted no time trying to get out of there as we backed up and whipped the car around we saw it land in front of us 233 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,560 The side of the car about three feet away honked my horn and turned on my brights and it screamed again and flew up into the air 234 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,880 We screeched on to redacted and headed toward I think it was redacted 235 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,000 My boyfriend says he saw it land again just off the road on his side of the car 236 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,560 Did not stop to investigate and floored the car to get out of there well obviously 237 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Gone on to redacted and were passing the apartment buildings when we saw something fly right over our car lower than the lamp post screaming as it flew out of sight 238 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Oh this one's screaming as it flew 239 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Got to my house and stayed in the car for about 15 to 20 minutes I was hysterical and crying and my boyfriend was shaken up 240 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,040 Took me another 30 minutes to get myself together and go drop off my boyfriend and drive myself back home 241 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,080 I have had repeated nightmares since then it's been difficult to sleep without the closet light on 242 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,960 My boyfriend also says he has nightmares I hope you believe me and that you don't think I'm crazy 243 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Could have been a large bird like some people say it might have been 244 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,000 I know whatever it was must have been intelligent I just have the feeling that tells me so 245 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,440 Yeah a large bird probably wouldn't follow your car home 246 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,800 No it definitely well I've never had that happen at least 247 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,120 No 248 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,720 I don't think a bird would want to do that and it doesn't normally scream at you 249 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,800 So long contacted the witness and received the following additional information 250 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:59,400 He says I estimate it stood about seven feet tall and the wingspan has to be about seven to eight feet or more wide 251 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:06,360 I almost got the feeling like it was toying with us it knew we were scared shitless and it toyed with that by scaring us even further 252 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:11,160 As far as physical reactions it took me a few hours to finally get back to somewhat normal 253 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,840 I threw up twice just from jitters and I had a feeling like I was being watched even though the curtains were closed 254 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,160 Currently I still feel like I'm being watched almost like I'm marked in some way 255 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:27,000 Last night was the first night I slept without the lights being on and it took me about an hour and a half to finally fall asleep 256 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:33,080 It puts me off to wanting to go out at night anymore even though I have to in order to finish college by July 257 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:39,160 Third note you've been out to that same spot countless times previous and this is the first time we've seen the thing 258 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,640 So that's the next one that one's terrifying 259 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Yeah that one's terrifying especially the after notes that she felt like she still feels like she's being watched 260 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,640 Yeah of course that could be a sign of trauma 261 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,720 Yeah I mean I'd probably be terrified after seeing kind of like people who come home with PTSD and they feel like they're still in the war 262 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,440 That's true like constant that would do that to you 263 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:08,840 This one, Witness Who Goes by J.E. experienced two separate encounters with cryptid winged entities near her residence in Mineral Point, Wisconsin 264 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,200 Located in Iowa County in the southwest area of the state 265 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,680 J.E.'s first encounter occurred during an afternoon in spring 2019 266 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:24,680 J.E. had been feeling spiritually vulnerable and attempting to improve her personal protection with the archangels Michael and Raphael 267 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:31,240 At the end of the breezeway that extended from her front room there was a window in which J.E. would use to access the flat roof 268 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:40,280 As she approached and looked out of the window she observed two crouching beings with feathered wings facing the large St. Mary's and St. Paul's Catholic Church 269 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,360 A few blocks behind her apartment building at 224 Davis Street 270 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:47,000 These beings seemed to be arguing with each other 271 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,160 Also the figures were stone gray in color and solid like concrete 272 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,120 J.E. immediately thought that these were representations of St. Michael and St. Raphael 273 00:23:56,120 --> 00:24:04,920 As she continued watching they stood up to a height of 7 to 8 feet but seemed to be fading in and out of a non-corporeal slash corporal state 274 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:11,000 They then fully extend their wings to a span of 10 feet or so and flew off towards the Catholic Church 275 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:18,840 Second encounter took place in the autumn of 2019 while J.E. was walking her dogs late at night between 1 to 2 a.m local time 276 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:25,480 She was in an alleyway near her residence heading towards High Street, the main thru-fair in the small town 277 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,320 She soon noticed small lights or orbs descending around her 278 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:37,480 As she approached the steps near the Mineral Point Opera House at 139 High Street her attention was drawn to what she described as 279 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,600 A large gargoyle like entity perched on top of the buildings across the street 280 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Being's claws were extended off the edge and the massive feathered wings were unfurled to a span of 20 to 25 feet 281 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,880 Entity was solid gray in color with a heavy girthed body 282 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Face was described as a cross between a bulldog and a lion with pointed ears and a long snout but having a snub nose 283 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Okay that sounds like a bat 284 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,160 Yeah, J.E. watched- it does, doesn't it? 285 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,680 J.E. watched the being for two minutes or so after its dark eyes seemed to focus his gaze on her 286 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Then stood up and displayed a very tall body with wings fully extended 287 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,480 It began to move off the edge in an attempt to descend but disappeared into the ether 288 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,320 After the initial shock of encountering this impressive wing creature 289 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,280 J.E. was thankful for the opportunity to observe it 290 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,760 She recalled her trips to Paris and Notre Dame stating that this being looked like a real life gargoyle 291 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,680 Those ones I find really interesting because they don't really fit into the other sightings 292 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Even that I've read so far 293 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Yeah and it is weird that this person saw the exact same kind of winged cryptid twice 294 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Because like there are so many different varieties of like shape, sizes, colors, eyes, wings that it can come in 295 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,360 That she saw the exact same one twice 296 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:06,360 It also makes you wonder because in her initial sighting she's trying to summon or like summon for protection like angels 297 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:12,120 And she sees it in a very religious context so I also wonder if it's not her perception 298 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:12,760 Influencing that 299 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Yeah her perception influencing what she's seeing because they also have winged feathered wings 300 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,520 I know what to say winged wings 301 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840 Yeah that could influence her memory for sure 302 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,920 I don't know if that's what you were going for but that could definitely influence what she would see 303 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Yeah I'm thinking so so that's why I wanted to put this one because it's just a little bit different than the other encounters 304 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Next one which is a brief one 305 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:48,920 February 25th 2019 I received a telephone call from an eyewitness N.V. who stated that she had observed a winged being in the early morning around 5 30 a.m near Arion, Wisconsin 306 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,040 N.V. was traveling west on Creek Road on her way to work as she approached the Turtle Creek Bridge 307 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,360 She observed a large winged being that she described as a flying witch 308 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,680 The being was at a treetop altitude and was gliding in her direction 309 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,080 It was early dawn but enough light available for N.V. to make out of form 310 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,360 Winged beings suddenly descended towards N.V.'s car and barely missed colliding with the hood 311 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:19,800 N.V. described that that being's wingspan was much wider than her car and that the body was a brownish color like a paper bag 312 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,040 Body looked feminine and slight the wings were bat shaped and very large 313 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280 She never noticed the wings flapping 314 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speed in which it descended was not natural 315 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Face was unremarkable almost blank 316 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,520 N.V. noted that she swerved and almost hit the guardrail 317 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,600 N.V. did not notice where the winged being flew after the encounter 318 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,640 N.V. is of Hispanic descent and stated that the being looked very similar to a witch 319 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560 It was described to her as a child 320 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,840 N.V. was quite upset and worried that she may encounter this being in the future and disdaining 321 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Yeah completely different completely different 322 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,440 And also I pick and choose these so 323 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Well yeah but I like a mannequin face basically like kind of has features but pretty blank 324 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Yeah that's what she described I know 325 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,160 And like just a completely different color and feminine like nobody has described as feminine 326 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Yeah and which light 327 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,000 Like none of these count I mean that's a different culture though 328 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,800 But she also again you brought this up on the last one which I find interesting on this one as well 329 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,640 She brought up her cultural background to describe what she was seeing 330 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,400 So it's oh that's true well that's what some of it that you find 331 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 So I don't know if they're interpreting they go into seeing this weird thing 332 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,520 They get a little shocked in their memory gets distorted based on their cultural background 333 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,040 Or if based on strong belief 334 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,680 The much more bizarre version of that and much way less evidence behind it would be 335 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Whatever entity is doing this is taking on the form of what the person they want them to see 336 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720 Wants to see them would be able to extrapolate from their cultural background 337 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,400 That's a good point I was gonna say that I didn't even think of that 338 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Point which is but there's no no evidence at all to that side it's just speculation 339 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Yes but that's a really good point on the other side of the spectrum of that 340 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880 And I guess you could say if somebody's seeing a dog I guess 341 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,040 They would probably describe it based on their own personal background and experiences as well 342 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760 And not everyone's going to come up with the same exact thing 343 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560 We can only ever describe things from our previous experience 344 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Especially with words that we've learned from our previous experience 345 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,680 That would be like this like we can't describe color to blind people well 346 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Because all we've ever done with color is with our eyes or with our experience with it 347 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,600 So we can't extrapolate it out in any other way 348 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880 It looks so orange like orange you know 349 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,960 Like an orange you know the fruit 350 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,760 But that's also something I like what you say because that's a very paranormal type of 351 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Attribute that you can give it is that it's adapting specifically to the person 352 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,880 It's giving people custom experiences 353 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Which is always nice customer service or like terrifying customer service 354 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,480 Okay next one 355 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,640 I recently talked to a witness JL who had a UFO experience and then later a winged humanoid 356 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,560 encounter at the same location 357 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,520 That's right on the evening of January 1st, 2000, JL and her son were traveling on Spring Creek Road 358 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,120 in Rockford, Illinois 359 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,360 As they approached Rock Creek they both observed a large diamond shaped craft 360 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,880 Hovering above the creek 361 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Craft was brightly lit and there was a distinct beam of light coming from the bottom towards the creek 362 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,920 JL slowed the car and the craft suddenly cut off the beam 363 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,520 At the same time the craft slowly ascended into the night sky 364 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,880 JL and her son had lingering dreams after the incident 365 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,320 And both started to notice paranormal activity around them 366 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,240 Then on October night in 2002 around 8 p.m. 367 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,680 So that's about a year and a little bit late 368 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,520 No, two in math is no good 369 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640 I mean a certain amount of time later around 8 p.m. 370 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080 JL was again driving on Spring Creek Road near Rock Creek 371 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520 The important thing is it wasn't the same time 372 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,240 This was a different time a different date on or around 373 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,560 She observed a winged shape approaching her head on 374 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Yeah, that's right a winged shape 375 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,280 This might yeah no some sort of shape in the middle and it had wings on it 376 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Okay, I can get that 377 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,360 By the time this flying anomaly got near her it swooped up and over the car 378 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:26,680 JL states that the winged being was humanoid in shape with two leg-like structures trailing below it 379 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Wingspan was so wide that it literally blocked out all of the streetlights 380 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600 He estimated that it was six feet in height black in color 381 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,440 And had large wings approximately 12 feet in total width 382 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,840 She immediately stopped the car got out and looked down the road behind her 383 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760 She stopped the car she stopped 384 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Like we all agreed this you wouldn't do that 385 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000 This is the woman from earlier is it? 386 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,520 No well it could be no it's not no it's not 387 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,400 It's likely not 388 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,640 It's likely not this is a different place in Illinois or Wisconsin 389 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,320 She immediately stopped the car got out and looked down the road behind her 390 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Winged being had vanished but she noticed that the trees were moving 391 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040 as if a huge gust of wind had gone through them 392 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,000 She also stated that the being never flapped its wings 393 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 It seemed to be propelled by an unknown force 394 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:19,160 JL had experienced a sense of consternation and anxiety ever since the incident 395 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,320 Even though she now lives in Tennessee 396 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,840 This I think they all have after bearing witness to this 397 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,400 Huh 398 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,280 Yeah another weird one right this one with the UFO 399 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Yeah well and it's that it's that feeling again 400 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,080 She kind of described of being watched constantly after the event again 401 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Did you not get that from that last little bit? 402 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960 I don't remember it really coming up before but 403 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,640 It kind of seems like it is 404 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,560 I can't recall in this one no I can't recall from the initial episode that we did at all 405 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360 So I don't think I should comment on it because I can't remember 406 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,280 I don't know I don't think that would ever leave me if I saw something like that 407 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 But I'm also terrified of things with wings 408 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,360 It would use that against me wouldn't it 409 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Yeah 410 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,000 It would it would okay 411 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,040 It would just be wings 412 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,960 Yeah that's the 413 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Or a fish with wings 414 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680 So disturbing just the wings 415 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:17,720 Okay and to the point this is going back a few stories of people seeing kind of what is in their reality 416 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,920 That one is distinct because I don't know if I should even be going back a couple stories 417 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,040 But people specifically mostly though there are ones with feathers 418 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Most of the time they're seeing bat like like leathery wings look wet in some instances 419 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,880 And that woman specifically saw feathers 420 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:44,600 So that's also a thing to the point of are they like somehow reading minds or something 421 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,320 To fit a certain perception a person is having and it's super weird 422 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440 That's definitely a paranormal attribute of it 423 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,120 Yeah yeah you got to admit that also it could be just the fact that a collapse or a creation 424 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,720 Of the mind is going to take on cultural backgrounds that you're used to 425 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Yeah 426 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Though it would be weird that so many mental breakdowns wouldn't incorporate a winged creature 427 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,760 In this one specific world 428 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,480 Or more specifically whether the wings are leathery or feathered 429 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,960 Or whether the eyes glow green, yellow or red or glow at all 430 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,000 Yeah but there are psychological phenomenons that happen in specific parts of the world 431 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,800 That are strangely specific as well 432 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,560 Like what is it called it's like the 433 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,600 The dancing one? 434 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,760 Not the dancing one it's like Quebec lager or something like that Quebec lager syndrome 435 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,440 One sec let me find it quick 436 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,560 Not Quebec 437 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,000 The jumping Frenchmen of Maine is that what I'm thinking of? 438 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,280 The jumping Frenchmen of Maine were a group of 19th century lumberjacks 439 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,760 Who exhibited a rare disorder of unknown origins 440 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,560 The syndrome entails an exaggerated startle reflex 441 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Which may be described as an uncontrollable jump 442 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,880 Individuals with this condition can exhibit sudden movement in all parts of the body 443 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,960 Jumping Frenchmen syndrome shares some symptoms of other startle disorders 444 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,280 Okay so that's not what I was thinking of 445 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,480 But also proving your point a little bit because it would be something super like specific 446 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,640 Yeah just a specific part of the world 447 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,480 That's specifically Frenchmen 448 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680 I know there's other examples I can't think of them off the top of my head 449 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,320 Yeah no there's for sure that that thing 450 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,760 On that tangent that came from another part of our episode brings me to my last sighting 451 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,520 As always best for last Claire and Ashley both of whom are 18 years old 452 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,480 Both women from Oregon Wisconsin I thought I said that wrong for a second 453 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Said in a phone interview with investigator Tobias Wayland 454 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:43,320 They'd seen an 8-9 foot tall creature with a wingspan of 10-15 feet 455 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,760 While driving outside of town last November 26th 456 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,760 Ashley said that she had initially seen something unusual while driving between Oregon and Staughton 457 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,600 On Highway 138 at around 10pm that evening 458 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Quote I was on that road because I was going to Staughton for some stuff she said 459 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,200 I was driving my car I noticed this thing 460 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,960 I couldn't tell how big it was it just looked like a black shadow 461 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Start across the road but it was probably a football field ahead of me 462 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,960 First I thought it was my windshield because I have cracks in my windshield 463 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,720 But that doesn't make sense because I've driven that road hundreds of times 464 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,440 I've never seen my windshield do anything like that 465 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,760 It was insanely fast I was like 466 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,080 I think I just saw something but I'm not going to say anything because I'll sound crazy 467 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,880 End quote 468 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,280 Later at around 10.30pm both women were going for a drive together 469 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,520 When they say they saw a flying humanoid sweep across the road in front of them 470 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,760 At the intersection of Sandhill Road and Rutland Dunn Townline Road 471 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,000 Quote There is a possum in the road and we stopped because we didn't want to hit it 472 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,040 We were driving around it and then we looked up and it was huge like 9 feet long 473 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,320 End quote Claire said 474 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,040 Pre-quote It was flying and it swooped down across the road and out of our sight 475 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,680 We were both like you saw that too right? 476 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,640 Quote Pre-quote 477 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,920 The creature was like a quarter of a football field ahead of us 478 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,040 It was really close it was way too big to be a deer 479 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,200 It was kind of reddish brown in color I want to say but it was darker 480 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,320 If we hadn't stopped for that possum it would have hit our car 481 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,080 That thing was huge my thought was dear lord it's a pterodactyl 482 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,720 End quote 483 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:24,840 Lampost's position in the intersection partially illuminated the being from underneath they said 484 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,440 Allowing them to determine its approximate color and dimensions 485 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,480 According to the two women the creature was headed north 486 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,680 It was too high up to be illuminated by the car's headlights 487 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,880 Very bottom was illuminated but we couldn't see the top of it 488 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,800 It wasn't fully illuminated but light was cast on the other side 489 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,760 Since it was at the intersection that we normally turned at 490 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,840 We normally turn at that intersection because we make loops around town 491 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Swoop from the south towards the north 492 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,800 When you get to the intersection you have to turn north 493 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920 And I was terrified to turn north I didn't want to turn north 494 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,040 Er describe the creature as looking like Mothman and said 495 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040 It looked like a very bulky person 496 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000 Its limbs were a lot thicker than a human's would be 497 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,600 A lot bigger around had these absolutely huge wings 498 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,360 There were arms on its side actually I didn't know if they were arms 499 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,120 They were appendages on its sides and the wings were on its shoulders or back 500 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,560 But I couldn't really tell 501 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,120 Didn't see its head when it swooped down in front of us 502 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,240 I didn't see any head or neck when it swooped down 503 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,160 They decided to continue their drive 504 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,240 Eventually working up the courage to revisit the location of their sighting 505 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,600 Again who would do that? 506 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,240 Who stops? 507 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,440 Who repeats the visit? 508 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,240 Who goes back? 509 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:36,440 And around 11 pm as they drove by the area again 510 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,320 Claire spotted something unusual in a nearby field 511 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,680 Jesus Christ 512 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,720 Although the creature had first been seen heading north 513 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,760 When they returned it was standing on the south side 514 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,520 In a plowed down cornfield 515 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,040 Oh my god 516 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,600 We were at the point where we thought it would be gone 517 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,840 But then it wasn't said Ashley 518 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,440 Ashley who was driving didn't see the creature standing in the field 519 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,160 Claire however said she saw a strange creature with very pronounced red eyes 520 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,760 This is so scary 521 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,120 Looked out the back window and the creature was standing in the field 522 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,480 It was almost a full moon so it was pretty illuminated 523 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560 Its head didn't look like it had a neck 524 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,600 It looked like it was just an extension of its body 525 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,960 Looked like a human had tucked their head into their shoulders 526 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,040 It had very pronounced red eyes 527 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,040 We didn't have any headlights in the back 528 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,880 And the only thing that would have reflected would have been the lamp post 529 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,440 So they were either reflecting really brightly or literally glowing 530 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,040 Go by that field all the time 531 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,600 I've never seen anything like that before or since 532 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,920 The woman described the creature as super fast especially for its size 533 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,960 It was very fast 534 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,720 The wings were very very large 535 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,720 The body was so stocky 536 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,680 Silhouette was similar to how I would describe Bigfoot 537 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,440 Which I know I'm using other known cryptids to describe this one 538 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,040 But that's really what it looked like 539 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,760 There was no pronounced neck but it looked very stocky 540 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,760 It had very large bird-like wings 541 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,600 I couldn't tell if it had feathers 542 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,960 Ashley said that she thought that the part illuminated by my headlights looked like reddish brown fur 543 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,440 It was either very fine feathers or fur 544 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,040 I didn't really see a texture 545 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,560 There weren't large feathers on the body that I would have been able to see 546 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,080 The only thing I can say is that when I saw the silhouette of it in the field 547 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,240 I could see jutting off points from the wings that I would call feathers 548 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,680 But I really don't know 549 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,760 Could have just been wing shaped like that 550 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,080 Both women said they screamed after seeing the creature fly over the road 551 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Claire added that she froze with fear in response to the sighting 552 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,760 I felt fear, yeah 553 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,080 There is also the element of that's not supposed to be here, Ashley said 554 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,360 You just know that whatever that is, it's not from around here 555 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,640 It's not supposed to be here 556 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,240 Yeah, like wrongness, added Claire 557 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,320 We passed that place a couple more times 558 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,400 And the rest of the night we just got a weird 559 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,320 There's something that shouldn't be here feeling every time we were in that area 560 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,080 So they repeatedly went back 561 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080 I just, these are young girls 562 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,600 They probably had the windows down yelling at us 563 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,840 Yeah, there's a lot of mistakes happening here 564 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,240 The initial sighting they stopped at something on the road 565 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:10,920 And they're just circling back 566 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,480 I just feel like these are all bad mistakes 567 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,840 They like, they took the like book out on how to react in a horror movie 568 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,920 They did, they're making all the horror movie people who die first mistakes 569 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,040 I wonder if they know that 570 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,040 Yeah, and two young girls like yeah that really does seem like the first victims 571 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,440 Yeah, and I'm really loving their description of all of these things that are going on as well 572 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,160 They both also noticed that other unusual phenomenon happening that same evening 573 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,320 Such as deer moving away from the spot where they had seen the creature 574 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800 And unusual interference on the car's radio 575 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,760 I mean they drove past the place like 15 times now 576 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,400 They're making detailed notes of what's going on in this specific area all night 577 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800 Quote, this was the weirdest thing that I noticed 578 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480 It was way earlier 579 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,960 It was probably on their first circle around 580 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,360 But it counts for the whole night basically 581 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,640 We kept seeing deer crossing the road Ashley says 582 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,720 Almost ran into two different deer on two different sides of town 583 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,080 Usually if I see a deer at all it's one deer at night 584 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,000 Bergen does not get a lot of deer 585 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,840 And I saw over seven deer that night and we saw a whole herd running away from that spot 586 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,640 Hold on 587 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,160 What time of year is this? 588 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,520 This one doesn't say the time of year 589 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,120 November 26th, okay so it's that season 590 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,800 Yeah that's deer season is that not? 591 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,400 Yep that's true deer season 592 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200 So not that weird I would say 593 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,200 The deer were freaked out they were running away they were panicky added Claire 594 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,320 Radio said Claire it kept glitching like crazy 595 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520 And it hasn't really done that before he says 596 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920 It was cutting in and out getting staticky 597 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,680 And then picking up another channel that was on some gospel program 598 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,760 I know what channel that is and it's very far away from the channel we were on 599 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,920 She added that the radio would glitch only when we drove by that spot 600 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,360 Only a few days later on the evening of November 29th 601 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,840 Claire said she had another unusual sighting in literally the same place 602 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,240 Yeah she's going she loves that place 603 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,080 She drives by like five times a day 604 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,760 She does she really yeah exactly 605 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,920 Quote I saw a shadow on the road because we drive the same route every day we drive 606 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640 And then five more times just to be safe she said 607 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,640 I saw a shadow that looked like it 608 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,800 She didn't actually say that I should clarify that because I'm quoting 609 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,400 And it sounded like she said it 610 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,200 I saw a shadow that this is actually her talking 611 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,800 I saw a shadow that looked like it and then something run into the trees 612 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,400 All I could really tell was that it was winged and very very big 613 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,320 But I couldn't give you a definite shape 614 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,920 Similarly to the sighting reported by Claire and Ashley 615 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,480 A man in Woodstock, Illinois reported a sighting of an eight to nine foot tall 616 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,360 Being covered in dark fur with large wings on February 22nd 2019 617 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,360 Outwitness said that he thought the creature may have been bigfoot initially 618 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,520 But then noticed that it had a large set of membrane wings attached to the back 619 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,440 Standing over the top of its head 620 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:11,240 Investigators Tobias and Emily Wayland visited both the Woodstock sightings area in 2019 621 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:16,120 And the area in which Claire and Ashley said they had their encounter only a few weeks ago 622 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,560 Investigators went to the site of Claire and Ashley's encounter twice 623 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,320 You must go more than once 624 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,120 First time at approximately 10 30 p.m and again around 2 p.m about a week later 625 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,720 Didn't notice any radio interference in either time 626 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:33,400 However upon review of the footage they recorded during their initial visit 627 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:39,080 They did notice some very unusual audio interference on both cameras used during the investigation 628 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,720 Same interference was present upon the review of the footage taken on their second trip 629 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,080 Although it was much lighter 630 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,560 Strangely the interference was only recorded in the immediate area of the sighting 631 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,320 Investigators were unable to find any signs of large satellite dishes 632 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,080 Ham radio towers or other equipment in the area that might be responsible for the interference 633 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560 A variety of reasons that I included that sighting 634 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,040 The major one is they're both sighting bigfoot as it's looking like bigfoot 635 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,360 Yeah 636 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360 Which I thought was was a good one 637 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,440 And there's just a lot going on with this one that they first have an up-close encounter 638 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,800 Yeah it's multiple sightings with two the exact same people 639 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,080 Yeah and it's just super creepy like it's up close and what is that like close encounter 640 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,640 Of the second kind no that's third 641 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,240 Yeah yeah well I have to think back 642 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:33,880 Then they come back and it's out in the field like how creepy is that 643 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,760 Like usually with these paranormal things it's like a one-off 644 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,160 But then you circle back around because you're curious 645 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,280 You're like there's no way that thing is still there waiting for me 646 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,720 And there it is with this fucking red eye 647 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:49,640 And they continuously circle back and continuously talk about the things that are just off about the environment 648 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,680 Which yeah may not be but at the same time it is interesting that on this night 649 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920 So many things seem off repeatedly 650 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,320 Yeah 651 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,400 Because they always do seem like one-off events 652 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,240 Yeah they do except in my episode I had a few where they're encountering 653 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:07,320 They're having more than one encounter with them 654 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,040 Which is another thing that I hadn't really run into with this before 655 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,080 And I found actually a couple encounters where they run into the same being a few times 656 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,840 The one with the holy lady and the one with these two girls 657 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,840 And they also draw a comparison to a pterodactyl which also drew me in 658 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,760 And that's the end of my episode 659 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,200 I don't think I have any questions to go with this 660 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,640 Like they're just bizarre sightings that like I just love that these these are sightings outside of the norm 661 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:36,840 They are 662 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,880 What people expect people to be seeing 663 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,080 They are and of course I'm not going to give you just the you know 664 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,440 Man looks outside and sees typical moth man sitting in tree 665 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520 I went for ones and or Elvis 666 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,400 Exactly I went for ones that that are going to give you a little bit more 667 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,200 You know fear when you go to sleep tonight because you feel like something's watching you now 668 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,760 Yeah and that closet light now needs exactly exactly that's what I went for 669 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,680 Yeah and specifically I do believe that we're probably a free sleep or sleeping podcast 670 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,720 Yeah 671 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:13,480 I'm glad everybody here has now participated in this episode 672 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,200 But for now I have been Taylor here with Chelsea 673 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,640 We have been Journey to the Fringe 674 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,960 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week 675 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:46,360 Bye