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Okay, this is not topical news in any way. It happened in 1845.

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But Chelsea, I need you to know about the disaster of May 2nd, 1845.

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It is something that you've never heard of before.

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I came across a Wikipedia article on it and it just needs to be shared.

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Are you sure? How sure are you? 100%?

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Well, let's go through it.

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Cook's Royal Circus was in great Yarmouth and as part of a promotion,

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it advertised that a clown named Arthur Nelson would sail up the River Burr

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in a wash tub pulled by four geese on May 2nd, 1845.

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The trick, first devised by Dickie Usher in 1809,

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was achieved by having the tub attached to a rowboat by an underwater line.

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A large crowd assembled in the vicinity from around 5pm to view the feat,

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which started with the flood tide.

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Several thousand people viewed the clown from the riverbanks

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and at least 300 in a crowd four to five people deep on the southern footway of the bridge.

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The crowd concentrated at the south eastern corner of the bridge,

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though the bridge was far from full as the carriageway was still passable by carts.

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At around 5.40pm, one of the I-bars in the southern suspension chain failed.

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This was witnessed by members of the crowd,

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but no action seems to have been taken to evacuate the bridge as a result.

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The second I-bar in that portion of the chain took up the full load for around five minutes before it too failed.

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The south side of the deck fell into the river,

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through the north end remained suspended by the surviving chain,

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though the north end remained suspended by the surviving chain,

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and the majority of the crowd were tipped into the water,

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which at this point was seven feet deep.

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Children who formed the front spranks of the crowd were crushed against the parapet railing by those behind them.

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One child was saved by being swept away by her mother holding onto her clothes with her teeth.

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A horse and a cart was on the point of crossing when the collapse happened

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and was saved from falling into the river by the horse backing up in a fright.

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the wounded and dead were taken to the nearby houses and pubs,

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and the Union House Hotel supplied blankets for the wounded,

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and Lake and Brewery made quantities of hot water available for hot baths to revive the survivors.

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Some 75 bodies were recovered on that day,

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though some remained trapped in the wreckage of the bridge.

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One man was rescued alive some time later after being freed by the use of a crowbar.

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In all, 79 people were killed in the disaster of whom 59 were children.

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Most of the dead were under 13 years of age and the youngest victim was two years old.

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The news was conveyed by electric telegraph and was known in Norwich within five minutes of the accident.

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Messages were passed by the means of to family members of those killed injured or missing.

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So the Armistice Benching Bridge disaster of May 2nd, 1845,

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which was a bridge collapse put upon by too many people wanting to see a clown pulled up a river by four geese in a barrel.

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That the first like minute and a half to two minutes of your telling the story had a lot of weird words in it.

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Put together. OK.

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But no, I had in fact never heard of that before.

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I just thought it would be a fun fact to top in there.

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It's not long enough for a full episode.

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I just the more you know.

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And with that, we can start the episode.

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Let's do it.

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From the unexplained to the mundane.

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Come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, the podcast that answers the hypothesis.

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Any old person could start a podcast.

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We are your annual podcast host, Taylor and Chelsea, here today talking about time travel.

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Well, not necessarily time travel, but one time traveler in specific.

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That man, of course, being not quite coined properly as an asshole of the UFO community,

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but an asshole of the fringe community.

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And with that, I'm going to live it over to Chelsea to tell you about the story of John Teter.

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Just asshole. Yeah, OK.

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OK. So the year is 2000.

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Well, kind of. We're going to jump around a bit.

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A poster going by the screen name, slash names, time travel, underscored zero.

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And John Teter on a variety of message boards begins with the forum at the Time Travel Institute, which was a website.

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This person starts claiming that he was a soldier sent from the year 2036, which is the year a computer virus wiped the world.

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Oh, figure this was being posted in the year 2000, fresh off our Y2K buzz.

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If you remember that long ago, how long ago was that now? 22 years ago. Jesus.

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Peter's mission was to head back to 1975 in order to obtain an IBM 5100 computer,

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which had the necessary equipment to fight the future virus in the year 2036.

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Peter makes his first post on a message board on November 2nd, 2000.

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And you the year 2000, you ask why? Yes.

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He made a brief stop in the year 2000 to visit his three year old self and to post on some message boards.

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Of course. What else are you going to do with your vacation time when you're time traveling?

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Time travel paradoxes. You should never meet yourself.

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Yeah. Well, he kind of touches on. Well, of course he does because he's there visiting his three year old self, which is a super weird thing.

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I wouldn't be like, oh, well, I'm here traveling past.

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I guess I better stop in and say hi. Yeah. Go say hi to myself.

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So over the next four months, Peter responds to every fucking question that other posters had for him and always with the disclaimer that the timelines can change and alternate realities do exist.

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I mean, he was sent back to save the world. So hopefully this is true that timelines can change.

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So from November 2nd, 2000 to March 24th, 2001, Peter regaled the Internet with his insight on the future and time traveling.

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His last post offered a final piece of advice, quotes, bring a gas can with you when a car dies on the side of the road and he signed off forever, never to be heard from again.

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Very mysterious. That's basically the gist of the basic goings on.

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Now I'm going to go back for all of this before the year 2001 and he disappears before 2000 when he makes his first post on the message board at the Time Travel Institute. What a place to be messaging the Time Travel Institute.

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I mean, you can't get more niche than that. There are a bunch of people talking about time travelers on a time travel without computers.

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Yeah, that's a that's a very good point. I never actually thought about that.

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Before all of this before John Teter's first post, we're going back to July 29th, 1988. See, I told you we jump around some the glory days of coast to coast am with Art Bell and he opens a timeline phone line during open lines to people who are genuine time travelers who have actually traveled in time, which Art Bell proclaims, quote,

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My timeline, my line for time travelers is area code 70272712957027271295. Bear in mind that you must have arrived here and done your time traveling not mentally but through some type of actual

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machine, which was the, you know, I'm fond of saying button pushing level lever pulling

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instrument, fully instrumented time machine of some sort.

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All right, to the phones, lest of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.

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So, this is a pretty good episode I'd highly recommend it actually July 29 1998. First up Jameson who is calling from a vortex in the year 2035, a research student. He says it's all true the men in black visitors, what they say about the government.

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Yeah, so that's how it starts out. It's followed up by a lineup of other people calling in from the future, or are currently time traveling. Have a listen. I'm not going to go through them all. It's pretty entertaining to listen to at the very least, and I'm going to play you a clip here.

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Well, all right. That's it, we will continue to take time calls time traveler calls tonight at area code 7027271295 dear.

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I had the facts when I heard other time travelers calling in from anytime past the year 2500 AD, please let me explain.

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Time travel was invented in 2034 offshoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world's first contained singularity engine.

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The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field by altering the speed and direction of rotation, you can travel both forward and backward in time.

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Time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time, you travel on your original timeline. When you turn the singularity engine off a new timeline is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.

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In other words, a new universe is created. To get back to your original line, you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.

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Some interesting outcomes of this are one, you meet yourself. I have done it often, even taken a younger version of myself along for a few rides before returning myself to the new timeline and going back to mine.

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Two, you can alter history in the new universe that you have just created. Most of the time the changes are subtle, sometimes I'll notice car models that don't exist or books that come out late.

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The oldest one was a skyscraper that wasn't built in a near favorite store of mine in New York.

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Interestingly, when you travel in time, you must compensate for the orbit of the earth. Since the time machine doesn't move, you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.

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Unfortunately, it was also discovered that anyone going forward in time from my 2036 hit a brick wall in the year 2564.

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Everyone who has ever been there has reported that nothing exists. When the machine is turned off, you find yourself surrounded by blackness and silence.

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Now, most time travelers are trying to find out where the line went bad by going into the past, creating a new universe and proceeding forward to see if the same thing results in 2564.

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It appears the line went bad around the year 2000. I'm here now in this time to test a few theories of mine before going forward.

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Now, for the future you might want to know about.

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One, Y2K is a disaster. Many people die on the highways when they freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather.

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Two, the government tries to keep power by instituting martial law, but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail.

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Three, a power facility in Denver is able to restart itself, but is mobbed by hundreds of thousands of people and destroyed.

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This convinces most that maybe we shouldn't bring the old system back up.

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Alright, the reason I'm here now is because I believe a nuclear weapon set off by Iraq in the Middle East war with Israel might have something to do with the damaged timeline. I will test that theory and get back to you.

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Please pray that we discover the reason why there is no apparent future after 2564.

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So I couldn't resist. I thought that was quite a good fax. There you have it.

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Man, I wouldn't want to be around for this Y2K thing.

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Good thing we missed this.

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That is the portion we're actually after in that like three hour episode.

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Gotta love yourself in our bell clip. I really love that he sends in a fax.

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There's all these callers in these episodes.

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I really appreciate that time and day.

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Yeah, there's all these callers in this episode, but he chooses to send in a fax.

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Yeah, and that makes more sense with time travel in my mind too. It just seems more like the time travelers' mode of communication.

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Yeah, just feels like it.

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Do you think he would be familiar with fax as though being from the year 2036? I don't see him going away actually.

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Completely. I mean we're not that far away from him.

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Especially if you need time travel, because it's the best way to communicate for time travelers.

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Again, just through that feeling.

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So yeah, this year is 1998. Doesn't actually sign his name in this or anything, but we know that this is who we will know as John Teeter, because what he says in his fax to Art Bell matches everything that he comes to proclaim in a future post.

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Does he own the fax number too?

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That was his only fax.

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And I don't think Art Bell kept tabs on it.

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I guess doxxing didn't exist at the time, but technically he doxxed that fax owner.

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Oh yeah. Yeah, he does that a lot, Art Bell.

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Anyhow, as far as anyone knows, there's nothing going on from this time that he sends a fax to Art Bell until November 2, 2000.

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And that's when I told you about a time traveler underscore zero makes a post on the Time Travel Institute forums.

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That's the word I was looking for forums.

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He says, greetings.

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I am a time traveler from the year 2036.

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I am on my way home after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.

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My time machine is a stationary mass temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric.

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The unit is powered by two top spin dual positive singularities that produces standard offset Tipler.

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The new soy, I would be happy to post a picture of the unit.

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Then goes on, the basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first time machine built by GE.

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Too bad we can't post pictures or I'd show it to you.

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So he then starts answering the apparent onslaught of questions that, of course, people in the 2000s on a forum on time traveler are going to have.

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Before I start with the Q&A, I'm going to lay out John's personal rules for interaction.

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He says here, this is now a quotation from him, not me talking.

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Following our personal rules, I try to keep unless, of course, they conflict with my secret agenda.

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So he does have a secret agenda.

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I look forward to discussing any discrepancies you may find personal rules for temporal disclosure.

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Number one, I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge.

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Number two, I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability.

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Number three, I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being.

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Yeah, I just need to talk about a few of his rules, particularly the third one.

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I'm bothered by how he kind of explained that telling people the future will make them avoid it when Greek culture and history clearly shows us that telling people their future just makes them bring it upon themselves.

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So like, do they not understand Greek mythology in the future?

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Maybe, maybe not.

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Or the idea of rectal causation?

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I don't know what to comment on that.

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Like, particularly with all of those, like there is a theory that timelines will correct themselves in a way and that should you inform them of that, they will balance themselves out to still end up in the same location.

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I mean, that would make a lot of sense.

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And to be honest, there's a lot of holes in his story, which, which we'll get to.

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Personally, I find it quite hilarious.

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I was snickering to myself a lot during the making of this.

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Does he identify a movie that is his time travel style is most closely associated to?

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No, but if I were to choose one, it'd be Back to the Future.

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Okay, I would pick Dragon Ball Z.

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Gerard will get that reference.

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Okay, he'll never hear that.

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So that's a shame.

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Okay, here are some examples of some of the questions that he answered.

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Please note, he answered a fuck ton of questions over a couple of years.

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That is an actual unit of measurement.

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I couldn't even.

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Yeah, in the future that I got from John Titor.

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I couldn't even read all, not to mention a lot of it was so lame, but I picked and chose as usual what I wanted to include here to give everyone a taste of John Titor based on my preference.

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So let's start.

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Let's start early.

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November 2nd at 1 a.m. He posts, I saw the posting requesting the basic system for a gravity distortion system that will allow time travel.

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Here they are.

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Number one, magnetic housing units for a dual microsingularities.

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Number two, electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of microsingularities.

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Number three, cooling and x-ray venting system.

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Number four, gravity sensors in brackets VGL system.

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Number five, main clocks in brackets for cesium units and bracket, rebracket, closed brackets.

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Number six, main computer units in brackets three.

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So that's what you need.

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Yeah, that's what you need.

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You need computers?

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Main computer units three.

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I thought they were destroyed.

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Okay, so let me just get to this now that you're bringing it up again.

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Apparently, I didn't put this in.

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I didn't think it would come up so much.

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So there is a place where they're asking questions because he says a lot of people like to use typewriters in the future.

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But he said people prefer to use typewriters just like now people prefer to use typewriters.

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Some people use typewriters.

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They still exist, but computers do also still exist in the future.

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You know, I never did see a question where he answered.

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It had to do with the fact that there is like a computer meltdown happening and he had to come back to retrieve a new computer part.

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And he hadn't actually been back to the future to fix that unless he was here in the 70s.

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He did fix it while he was there.

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And then it was an even future version of John Titor had already fixed the problem, but he had to technically go back and do it to maintain

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the doing of that event.

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So there's a variety of things in which he didn't answer the question.

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OK, November 4th, 2000.

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He's on a roll on this one.

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He's answering a lot of questions, which I found fascinating.

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First question.

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What does traveling in time look like?

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The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers.

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An audible alarm and a small light start a shot countdown, at which point you should be secured in a seat.

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Probably need a seatbelt or something.

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Gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly.

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You feel a tug toward the unit, similar to rise and quickly in an elevator, and it continues to rise based on the power setting the unit is working under.

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At 100 percent power, constant pull of gravity can be as high as two G's or more, depending on how close you are to the unit.

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There are no serious side effects, but I try to avoid eating before a flight.

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No bright flash of light is seen.

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Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it.

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We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation.

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Personally, I think it looks like you're driving under a rainbow.

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After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the unit is turned off.

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You're advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car.

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Oh, yeah, this is located in a car.

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OK, that's why I said that.

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Gravity fields also trap a small air pocket around the car that act as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you.

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This pocket will only last for a short period, and a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous.

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C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100 percent power.

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You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off, there is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static electricity.

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There is also in another post.

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I kept reading all this stuff I didn't actually put into my notes.

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There was another post where it says that when the time travel happens, it picks up some of the dirt from where you started and drops it where in time you end.

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Huh?

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Which just carries around piles of dirt.

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Like you're specifically not supposed to do that on like passport or visa entry forms.

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Yeah, you would think they would think about that, but not for time travel.

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They can make time travel, but the rules seem fairly vague.

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He does a lot of things in the Q&A.

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I wish I could have put this all in here.

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He talks about like if he murdered someone, there wouldn't necessarily be any ramification for him in the year he was time traveling to.

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But when he got back to his time that he'd probably be tried for it.

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So there's like really random questions that he answers like that.

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Next question.

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What are your memories of 2036?

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Peter says I remember 2036 very clearly, probably because he was there like five minutes ago.

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It is difficult to describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of time explaining why things are so different.

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In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family, and I'm currently stationed at an army base in Tampa.

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A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people.

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People that survived grew closer together.

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Life is centered on the family and then the community.

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I cannot imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents.

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Can't say I'm looking forward to that war.

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No, not. I mean, 2015. It's close.

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That's so soon.

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Yeah, I know.

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There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless food and recreational items.

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Food and livestock is grown and sold locally.

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People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face.

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Religion is taking seriously and everyone can multiple and divide in the heads.

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That was literally taken from him word for word, so I'm not going to correct myself.

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OK, so it really sounds like socialist communes at that point.

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It does, doesn't it?

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And there's another comment I was just going to make here.

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He gets a lot of question. I didn't put it in.

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He gets a lot of questions about if there is a God and if Jesus made an appearance, which is super unsettling.

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That people would think that a human from like how much would it have been in the future at that point?

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Thirty six years into the future would have those answers.

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Pretty bizarre.

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Well, I mean, he could technically go see Jesus, I think is something they would think.

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Oh, yeah, he could.

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Wouldn't speak his language.

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Or didn't he use his vacation time for that?

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I don't know. Doesn't speak the language.

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True, true.

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One thing that we always forget about when we're time traveling is there's very select time where we're actually going to be able to talk to people.

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That is so true.

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I never even thought about that.

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And you know what?

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How many of us would think about that if there if time travel came to be?

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You really got like a 200 year window.

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It's not much actually now that you're now that I think about it.

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And like likely going forward, you maybe have 50 to 100 years.

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Really?

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I mean, I don't know that I'd want to go further back than that, because let's be honest, I like my modern day amenities.

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I wouldn't know what to do without them.

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I travel somewhere weird that doesn't have them quite like I have and I'm uncomfortable.

295
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I'm going to be honest.

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I like toilets.

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I don't like holes in the ground.

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Next question.

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Will you show us more of the operations manuals for your time machine?

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John says I will consider it, but I do not expect they are worth anything to most people except as curiosity.

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Next question.

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If you met yourself on another world line, what would happen?

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John says it has always surprised me why the concept is so hard for people to imagine and accept.

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Nothing would happen.

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The universe would not end.

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And there is no paradox problems that threaten existence.

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Temporal space time is made up of every possible quantum state.

308
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Everett Wheeler model is correct.

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I have met and or seen myself twice on different world lines.

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First was a training mission and the second is now I was born in 1998.

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So the other me is too on this world line.

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There is a saying where I come from every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere.

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Now he's saying listen to thousand.

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But now that we're in 2022 and 2036 ain't that far away.

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Do we really think that physics is really going to prove that that is the correct theory?

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Time travel works in that amount of time.

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Something to think about.

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Next question.

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How is our world line different from this yours?

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Restarters says John.

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The fact that I'm here makes it different.

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I've also noticed little things like news events that happen in different times.

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Football games won by other teams.

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Things like that.

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I would guess the temporal divergence between this world line and my original is about one or two percent.

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Of course, the longer I'm here, the larger that divergence becomes from my point of view.

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I just need to comment on that one.

328
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So he would be two years old in this world that he's traveling to.

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Yet he knows the outcome of sporting events, which means me to believe that he has an alternative motive to time traveling, which was betting on games to make money.

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And he will not, according to his ethical number of things he laid out, because give them out.

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And that's because he doesn't actually know the winners of the games.

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I'm just coming to the realization of why he has that rule now.

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Oh, yeah.

334
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There's the purpose of his trip.

335
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Yeah. So next question.

336
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What type of vehicle is in the picture you posted?

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I like this.

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John, it's a 1967 Chevrolet.

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So this needs explanation.

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The time is the time travel machine.

341
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Yeah, that's the time travel machine.

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The time machine he's referring to has been installed into the rear of a 1967 Chevrolet Corvette convertible.

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And he actually changes vehicles a few times.

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He answers a question about the vehicle, which the question is, is the car is the in brackets, car company truck better than the car company truck for time travel?

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And John says the vehicle must have a strong suspension.

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Huh. All of by the next question, how did you buy your truck?

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How could you title it?

348
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If you are only three years old at this point, how did you pay for it?

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It's a good question.

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This is a good question that this person is posting to him here.

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John responds.

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Don't worry.

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Fortunately, these are things were taught at time travel school in how to get around in the sarcastic 20th century.

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I said I didn't have any money from 2036.

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I have plenty from here.

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That's his answer.

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There are pictures.

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He post pictures.

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I will post them to the socials.

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Also needs mention.

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One man reportedly tried to patent the technology Teeter was posting and cash in on the future discovery, which likely did not help this man's case during his trial for sexual assault in 2013.

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That is just a good tidbit to have in here regarding the stuff that John Teeter was posting because he was.

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I'm glad a patent role kind of got does come up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then he went to trial for sexual assault.

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So there's that.

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Okay.

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Next question.

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Does your machine allow you to control time travel?

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Okay.

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This is a stupid question.

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Why did I put this in here?

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John Teeter says, yes, it can be controlled.

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However, the distortion unit has operational limits.

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Imagine your path through time is through a cone farther away from the center of the cone.

377
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The more differences you will see in the world line, the C2O4 begins to break away at about 60 years.

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This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases.

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Other words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years to meet Christ, there's a better than average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never born.

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Ah, computer units and gravity sensors record your trip and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin.

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I'm aware that research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks.

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I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence.

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So quick question then.

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It's capped at 60 years.

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How do they know there's a hard stop at 2564?

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No idea.

387
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Okay.

388
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Pryal and error maybe?

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At this point, he hasn't been the time traveling.

390
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It didn't seem like because it was only what 2034 that they were able to start time traveling.

391
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Yeah.

392
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Is that what he said?

393
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Yeah, it was something like that.

394
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He said it on Art Bell.

395
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It wasn't that or maybe I said it.

396
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Art Bell, me, same thing.

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It wasn't long before he actually time traveled.

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So I'm not sure how they actually came up with that.

399
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Okay.

400
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Next question.

401
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Are you drawn back to your world line of origin for any reason?

402
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Is instability a problem for you?

403
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Don answers.

404
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I'm not sure what you mean by stable.

405
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If you mean mentally, there are many things that bother me here.

406
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But being with my parents right now is important to me.

407
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Physically, the only thing really wrong is the number of colds I get.

408
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Next question.

409
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Are you able to return to your home?

410
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John says yes.

411
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He just said yes.

412
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He didn't say John says yes.

413
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Next question.

414
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Is radiation a problem?

415
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John answers.

416
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I'm not sure what radiation you mean.

417
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If you mean from the unit, it vents X-rays and gamma radiation out of the rear.

418
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As long as you stay away from that, you should be okay.

419
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I keep a radiation detector with me to check my environment and make sure the unit isn't leaking.

420
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That does seem very troublesome.

421
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He's still in the direct vicinity of X-rays and gamma rays.

422
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So yeah, I probably wouldn't be doing it, but that's me.

423
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Next question.

424
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What does the light look like when you time travel?

425
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000
I think we already went over this, but here it is again.

426
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Light bending only lasts a second.

427
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It is like driving under a tunnel and being in total black.

428
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Next question.

429
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Do people know where you are?

430
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Can you communicate with your home?

431
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John says no.

432
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They do not know where I am and I cannot communicate with them.

433
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Interesting idea though.

434
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From their point of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left.

435
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From their point of view, I will have only aged more than expected.

436
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In which I don't know how long he actually thinks he's been gone.

437
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I mean, for me, maybe, well, no, he was gone like a year.

438
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So I don't expect him to have aged a whole lot over a year.

439
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Yeah, but his fashion had to change for the times.

440
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Yeah, true.

441
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,000
So he said he doesn't come into gamma ray radiation, but he also said,

442
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000
well, I guess the facts technically isn't connected to this necessarily.

443
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000
But he said that you have to account for the fact that the Earth has moved.

444
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000
So doesn't he technically have to move through space?

445
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Yeah, and you also missed the part where he said that it vents x-rays and gamma rays out the rear of the car.

446
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000
That is convenient.

447
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:58,000
That is still too close for comfort for me that it just shoots out the back of the car.

448
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Next up, is there anything to add about what time travel looks like?

449
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
John says, well, the machine is on.

450
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Everything is black.

451
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000
When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse effect.

452
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
It appears you are driving out from a bridge.

453
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,000
To tell you the truth, I'm usually sleeping when the unit turns off.

454
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
But yes, it does appear that the world fades in from black.

455
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,000
So that's weird that that's the only thing he wanted to add about what time travel looks like.

456
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Seems like a pretty pointless thing to talk about.

457
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
He sleeps.

458
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Especially when he was talking about the rainbows before.

459
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
I just don't understand the differentiation between them.

460
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,000
And to be honest, it's probably the large amounts of x-rays and gamma rays he's taken in.

461
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
It might make someone sleepy.

462
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Next question.

463
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
What's the largest technical problem when traveling in time?

464
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000
John says the hard part of traveling through time is not the bending of gravity,

465
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000
but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic position in your environment.

466
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,000
This is done through a system called VGL, in brackets, variable gravity lock.

467
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000
In bracket.

468
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Basically, the unit takes a reading from the local gravity and samples it during the trip quotations.

469
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
In pulses.

470
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:10,000
If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct.

471
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,000
If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts down and drops out to wherever you may be.

472
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Okay.

473
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Next question.

474
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Are there any physical effects from machine?

475
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
John says the only real physical trace is a large chunk of-

476
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Oh, I did put it in!

477
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination.

478
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,000
The gravity field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes it along for the ride.

479
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
There really is no way around that.

480
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
I mean, can you take off like slightly higher?

481
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
No.

482
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Okay.

483
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000
And you can't do it.

484
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
You can't do it from any other surface other than dirt.

485
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000
That's time travel for you.

486
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Didn't you know that?

487
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:59,000
In relation to a question about what people from the future think about people from the time period they were occupying in the past, which was the 2000 period, John says a very nice quote.

488
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret.

489
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
No one likes you in the future.

490
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,000
This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep.

491
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.

492
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Learn basic sanitation.

493
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Learn to shoot a clean gun.

494
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 minutes and never return.

495
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
That's his input on the people from 2000.

496
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Didn't the people from 2000 though also have Y2K actually like mess them up pretty bad in his timeline?

497
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
So it can't really be said they were talking about us.

498
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Yeah, exactly.

499
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Because they're on a different timeline.

500
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,000
I just hate when people make broad assumptions about me and my timeline that they don't even know.

501
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Yeah. So he's really just lashing out at the people in our timeline who are asking him questions.

502
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000
When he doesn't know.

503
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
He doesn't know.

504
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Yeah. That really just make a lot of sense.

505
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Like the one that I really liked.

506
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000
How did you buy your truck?

507
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000
How could you be on the title if you were only three years old at this time?

508
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000
And how did you pay for it?

509
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
And also he was from the past.

510
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
He was three years old.

511
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
There's also that.

512
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,000
So I also really like this post that he made from February 5th, 2001, where he says,

513
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Would I be any more believable if I told you I had just stopped a horrible event and you won and you want to hear about it because it didn't happen?

514
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
I don't want the responsibility of being expected to know who lives and who dies.

515
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
I know it would change me for the worse.

516
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Besides, how can you be sure my inaction now isn't a result of something I've already screwed up and I'm trying to fix it?

517
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,000
For example, in brackets, this is not preventing Hurl Harbor relates to Y2K.

518
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Have you considered that I might have already accidentally screwed up your world?

519
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
He's saying to us in this time period.

520
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:51,000
So, yeah, there is speculation that Teeter did something in 1975 that prevented Y2K from happening.

521
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
And I'm just saying that just because I just mentioned Y2K and it's come up a few times.

522
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:01,000
So there is speculation that he did go back to 1975, stop that from happening and then came here.

523
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000
But he never actually met.

524
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000
I mean, other than him saying Y2K was a big thing.

525
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
The reason he went and I'm going to talk about that in a second here.

526
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:20,000
The reason he went back from 2036 to 1975 was to stop a thing from happening in 2036, not Y2K.

527
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000
I will talk about it more.

528
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
That's not all I'm going to give you.

529
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,000
So these are his initial posts, like in the first few days.

530
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Really, I didn't wander out really far outside of the first few days because that gave us more than enough to get a good idea of what he was about.

531
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
I think. Did he? Did he give you a good idea?

532
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
I mean, I got a feel for the guy now.

533
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:49,000
OK, good. The name John Teeter was not used until January 2001 after the time travel underscore zero began posting in all of these forums.

534
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:56,000
It wasn't until the Art Bell BBS forums, which required a name or pseudonym for every account.

535
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
And John Teeter, that's where that came from.

536
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000
And naturally, that's where you're going to go to is the Art Bell forums.

537
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Now, I've read you a few posts.

538
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000
I'm just going to summarize the whole experience of what he posted.

539
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
I might be jumping around a lot, but I'm just it makes sense in my head.

540
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Obviously, I'm not going to read you every single post ever because there is a lot more than you would ever expect.

541
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000
He wasn't like a man, a few words and very mysterious.

542
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Like there is a lot out there and some of it is very questionable.

543
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000
In Teeter's post, he claimed to be an American soldier from the year 2036 based in Tampa, Florida.

544
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000
He does actually post a picture of the logo of his military unit online.

545
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Here it is. I'm literally not showing any of you.

546
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I'm just going to point. I'm pointing at a future post on Journey to the Fringe social media's here.

547
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
You're having a little bit of time travel yourself.

548
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:53,000
He was assigned to a government time travel project and sent back to 1975 to retrieve an IBM 5100 computer,

549
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000
which he said was needed to debug various legacy computer programs in 2036.

550
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Possible reference to the UNIX year 2038 problem.

551
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Briefly, this is a time formatting bug in computer systems with representing times after 03, 14, 07 UTC on 19 January 2038.

552
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Basically, why 2K? If you want more info than that, there's a ton of stuff out there.

553
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
If you'd like, it's way over my head and not the focus of this episode.

554
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
And also it doesn't impact any of our computers these days.

555
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
This is just old school computer shit. Oh, it is.

556
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Yeah, our time formatting these days is more than just like three digits.

557
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,000
OK, don't be freaked out then. It only affects people in John Teeter's timeline.

558
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000
So back to what I was talking about. The IBM 5100 runs the APL and basic programming languages.

559
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Actually, Taylor just said that Peter said he had been selecting for his mission,

560
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,000
specifically given that his paternal grandfather was directly involved with the assembly and programming of the 5100.

561
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,000
In support of this, he described unpublicized features of the 5100,

562
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,000
leading to assumptions that a computer scientist was behind the postings or that he was for real.

563
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Teeter claimed to be on a stopover near 2000 per personal reasons to collect pictures lost in the future civil war

564
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,000
and to visit his family, whom he posted about often. And I've also said like five times now.

565
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Teeter also said he had been for a few months trying to alert anyone that would listen about the threat of

566
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Krutzfeldt-Jacob disease spread through beef products.

567
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Mad cow disease is a huge thing in the future and also about the possibility of civil war within the US.

568
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,000
One question about them by the Internet, Teeter expressed an interest in mysteries such as UFOs,

569
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,000
which were still unexplained in this time. Never did mention Tom DeLong, though, or to the stars media.

570
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:53,000
He does, however, suggest that UFOs and ETs might be travelers from much further into the future than his own time

571
00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:00,000
with superior machines. So I mean that that was just no knowledge at all for him to add in there.

572
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Now let's talk predictions. This is one of my favorite parts of this episode.

573
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Teeter liked to say, yes, timeframes can change, but he also said that changes were minimal,

574
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
completely contradicting the other things he said.

575
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:20,000
So obviously there's a huge following of people comparing Teeter's predictions to historical events we're living through since 2001.

576
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:28,000
The most immediate, well, past event from where we are in the future was the Civil War in the United States having to do with order and rights.

577
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,000
He described it as beginning in 2005 with civil unrest surrounding the presidential election of that year.

578
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,000
This war was to erupt and be at everyone's doorsteps by 2008.

579
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Now, as a result of the war, the United States would split into five regions based on various factors and differing military objectives.

580
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
The Civil War would end in 2015 with a brief but intense World War III.

581
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,000
While we were not on this timeline, he still did have World War I and II on his timeline.

582
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
So at least the past events we all share.

583
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Chelsea, just sorry. World War I didn't happen in this timeline, remember?

584
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Oh, right. I forgot about that. World War II then, at least.

585
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Teeter refers to this World War III exchange as end date. Washington, D.C. and Jacksonville, Florida, of all places, were hit during this exchange.

586
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Jacksonville, Florida, like that place that was just hit by the hurricane.

587
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Oh, yeah, it was. After the war, Omaha, Nebraska would be the new U.S. Capitol.

588
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Like that would ever happen. Nice try, John Teeter. You almost had us.

589
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Teeter was vague as to the exact motivations and causes that led up to this war of the worlds for the third time.

590
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000
At one point, he kind of alluded to border clashes and overpopulation.

591
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Teeter claimed that as a 13 year old in 2011, he joined the Fighting Diamondbacks, a shotgun infantry unit in Florida for at least four years.

592
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Sounds about right for Florida.

593
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000
In other posts, he describes having hid from the war.

594
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Teeter also directly contradicts himself by saying that the Everett. Oh, I already said that.

595
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Basically, he's saying the Everett Wheeler model of quantum physics, better known of the many worlds interpretation was correct.

596
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,000
And basically that there's an infinite amount of universes with all possibilities being played out.

597
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:20,000
One I do like, but according to Teeter, this caused a new time stream to form because of his time travel.

598
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,000
This makes his predictions non falsifiable since believers can say that the events were averted by Teeter's postings.

599
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:33,000
If it gets him the F off the hook, because by going to the past and stopping to interact,

600
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,000
it had created a new world line that sets his timeline on a new path, preserving the old one.

601
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Here are some of my personal favorite predictions, so to say.

602
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:48,000
November 6, 2000 answer. No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now.

603
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000
2036 must reverse somehow.

604
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,000
November 7, 2000. Yes, there is a post office. Also November 7, 2000.

605
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005.

606
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
The conflict flares up and down for 10 years.

607
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,000
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States,

608
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,000
which is the other side of the civil war from my perspective, China and Europe.

609
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,000
The United States counterattacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the A.F.E.

610
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,000
which is the American Federal Empire. Oh my God. Thus we in the country, one,

611
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
the European Union and China were also destroyed.

612
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Russia is now our largest trading partner and the capital of the US moved to Omaha, Nebraska.

613
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,000
There's that. Next one. I like how I disperse this into these predictions.

614
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Next prediction. Pads are more common in the future and flashy colors are less common.

615
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Dress is more functional and we dress up whenever we get a chance.

616
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Okay, so it's the 1950s again. Yeah.

617
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Next prediction. I don't know what you mean by VR.

618
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Next prediction. We don't know what's on Mars yet.

619
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Next prediction. We're not on the moon yet either.

620
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
A great deal of technical effort is going into cleaning the planet up.

621
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Next question. Yes, paper money is still widely used.

622
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Next prediction. There is another Pope, but I do not know his name.

623
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Oh, and here's another good one. Do companies like in brackets, popular software and internet names still exist?

624
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,000
John says no, but at least GE still exists. I said that, not John.

625
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
He says no. Which I think GE is about to go under more or less.

626
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Like they don't make anything anymore.

627
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Okay, so what do you think of the Teeter story so far? Is he selling you?

628
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Am I selling you on him? Am I doing my job?

629
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Yeah, actually, I am very interested in buying his large stake in Omaha, Nebraska's property that I'm sure he bought prior to telling everybody that would be the new capital of the US.

630
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Okay, so that's where you're sitting on it right now. Let me give you some more information.

631
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:02,000
And if I'm doing my job correctly, we will all be full John Teeter followers by the end of this episode.

632
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,000
If not, then we won't be, but I'm also not being paid for this. So let us continue.

633
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:15,000
More information for you. An Italian television program named Voyager, a confini della canoscenza.

634
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:22,000
That was perfect Italian. Aired the results of an investigation on John Teeter on May 19, 2008.

635
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Luckily, the rest of this is in English that I have to read.

636
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Private investigator Mike Lynch found no registry evidence, past or present, of any individual named John Teeter.

637
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:44,000
He did, however, identify the John Teeter Foundation, a for-profit company formed on September 16, 2003, with no office or address other than a rented post office in Kissimmee, Florida.

638
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,000
An IP address connected with Teeter also geolocated to Kissimmee.

639
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Yes, there is also a claim that Teeter or whoever he was, was posting under 88 different aliases to make him look like he knew what he was talking about.

640
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:07,000
But some also being a little bit skeptical of him and what he was saying, just so that there is like enough of people being like, okay, yeah, you're you're look at this.

641
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,000
You're you're actually a time traveler and other people being like, no way, you're not a time traveler.

642
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
And just so it made him like look like, you know what I mean.

643
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Okay. And and more than likely also asking some of his questions.

644
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Exactly. And making it so that it looked like he knew what he was talking about, like questions that he knew that he could answer.

645
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:39,000
In 2009, a reporter by the name John Houston of the Hoax Hunter website named Larry Haber, a Florida entertainment lawyer, as the CEO of the foundation, Lynch,

646
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:54,000
included that Larry Haber and his brother, Richard, a computer scientist were very likely the men behind John Teeter, whom they actually introduced in 1998, accompanied by different predictions, including chaos due to the Y2K bug.

647
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:01,000
John Houston also reported that John Teeter is a trademark registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

648
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Teeter trademark is now classified as abandoned.

649
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:11,000
Then there was an Italian TV show that I just talked about, but I think I thought was a different one when I made these notes.

650
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But let's just pretend that we're still talking about this.

651
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And it circled back around. Man, the Italians love this guy. Exactly.

652
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They go after Teeter, as I already said, and all trails led to an entertainment lawyer living in Florida, which had to do with this Teeter foundation and the IP dress being linked to Kissimmee, Florida.

653
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He claimed to simply represent Teeter and his family.

654
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And I think I remember him coming up on Coast to Coast AM.

655
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He was on the episode that John Teeter was on. Right.

656
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Yes. Okay. I was his parents were on it too.

657
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Okay. Really? Yeah. You can actually contact him here.

658
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Everybody get a pen. This might be old information.

659
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
It probably is. Here it is.

660
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Law Offices of Lawrence H. Haber, PA Larry Haber. PO Box 470171-747-0171. Phone number 407-566-0181. Fax for everyone that loves faxes. 407-566-0182. Larry Haber at AOL.com.

661
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,000
So yeah, that's John Teeter. Definitely didn't age well as much as we like a good time travel story.

662
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People still show up on Coast to Coast AM to talk about this guy for some reason. And that's it.

663
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Okay. And I'm also learning just from jumping around his website a while. Do you know we wrote a book?

664
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Yeah. There's a lot of stuff you can buy on that website.

665
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Well, no, it's on Amazon. Oh, yeah. Apparently it's not in print anymore.

666
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Yeah. So it's worth like a lot of money.

667
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John Teeter, A Time Traveler's Tale. Paperback written December 1, 2003.

668
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There's also The Secrets of Time Travel by John Teeter and a book called Who Authored John Teeter Legend by Mike Sauv.

669
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Yeah. So I don't know who would get the profits of this, to be honest.

670
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Maybe the lawyer, maybe the person who is John Teeter that's actually still in this timeline.

671
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Assume they put it in an interest bearing trust account to be held until 2036.

672
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At least. That's my story.

673
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Well, that's John Teeter's story that I'm telling you.

674
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Okay. And since we are ahead of the curve on this timeline,

675
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I do think our official position as Journey to the Fringe should be, in fact,

676
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to invest in Omaha real estate as soon as possible before it actually gets taken up.

677
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Yeah. I think that's a reasonable position.

678
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I think it is too. Yeah. I probably won't do it personally.

679
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000
I mean, if I ever get around to it, I got the time I might, but that is at least our position.

680
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000
We're probably not going to do it.

681
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000
It's funny he didn't mention hell. Is that when I'd be all over?

682
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
I buy a plot of land in hell. Yeah. Huh.

683
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Well, I mean, John Teeter is an interesting character.

684
00:51:53,000 --> 00:52:00,000
He, if you're ever looking for a fun time, he did go on coast to coast AM later on in his career as well.

685
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:06,000
And man, is his website just riddled with cannot be found pages.

686
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
So I don't think he's doing much anymore or ever really.

687
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000
No, he's gone. But it's a fun story. Yeah.

688
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,000
And if you do, in fact, run into a John Teeter teenager, actually, what would he be?

689
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,000
He would be like 20. He would be an adult. It would be. Yeah.

690
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He's younger than us. Yeah. Yeah.

691
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So if you happen to be current timeline John Teeter and listening to this, please send us a message.

692
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Or maybe we can book you in as a guest on this show.

693
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Love to have you talk about it, see if there's anything that's still going on with this.

694
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Chelsea, anything to add? That is a good episode. Thank you.

695
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That's I've said everything that I have been.

696
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:47,000
OK, well, that will conclude this episode, at least for this point in time, pun intended.

697
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