1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Today I have two topics. We're gonna go over both because these are sequential episodes. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,020 Do you want to talk about Poland or do you want to talk about California? 3 00:00:08,020 --> 00:00:12,160 This is a good first topic. Let's end with Poland. So California first. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Chelsea, when you think of California, what natural disasters come to mind? 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:16,700 Fires. 6 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:19,640 Yeah, forest fires. Would there be a second one in your mind? 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Earthquakes? Because of them falling into the ocean? 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,800 Yeah, and creating the Arizona Bay. Look at you go. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,900 Yeah, exactly. 10 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:34,280 Unfortunately, I have to add one more to your repertoire, and that's going to be earth-shatteringly large mega floods. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Oh, yes. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Yes. This is a story that was posted on August 12, 2022 on USA Today titled 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Experts Warn California of a Disaster Larger Than Any in World History. It's Not an Earthquake. 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Megadruss may be the main weather concern across the West right now amid the constant threat of wildfire and earthquakes, 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,080 but a new study warns another crisis is looming in California mega floods. 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Climate change is increasing the risk of floods that could submerge cities and displace millions of people across the state, 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:07,360 according to a study released Friday. It says that an extreme month-long storm could bring feet of rain in some places, 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,160 more than 100 inches to hundreds of miles of California. 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Similarly, unrelenting storms have happened in the past before the region came home to tens of millions of people. 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Now, each degree of global warming is dramatically increasing the odds and size of the next mega flood, the study says. 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,840 When the floods hit in a warmer planet, the storm sequences bigger in almost every respect, said Daniel Swain, 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,520 UCLA climate scientist and co-author of the study in a news release. 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,800 There's more rain overall, more intense rainfall on an hourly basis and stronger wind. 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,600 In fact, the study found that the climate change makes such catastrophic flooding twice as likely to occur now. 25 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Swain said that such massive statewide floods have occurred every century or two in California over the past millennia, 26 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,760 and today's risk of such events has been substantially underestimated. 27 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Why this is a huge deal is because it would be in the LA area, and the massive flood is estimated to cost at least a trillion dollars in disaster, 28 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,440 and damage to people's lives and property. 29 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,560 That is significant. 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Yeah, parts of cities such as Sacramento, Stockton, Fresno and Los Angeles would be underwater. 31 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Even with today's extensive collection of reservoirs, levees and bypasses, it is estimated that it would be at least a trillion dollar disaster larger than any in world history. 32 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,320 They're basing this on because it's happened before. 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 It's a one in a hundred event, so it happens every century. 34 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Ah, yes. 35 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,280 That's what we're getting now. 36 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Yeah, and the fact that at that time, when this last happened, there were not that many people living in California. 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:44,600 And also they were not going through an extensive drought, which actually makes water less likely to absorb into the ground. 38 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,000 It's kind of that catch-22. 39 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Hmm, yikes. 40 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,520 But yeah, one more fun thing to worry about in California. 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,080 When the water finally does come, it may kill everyone. 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,640 Sorry. 43 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:54,200 Yeah. 44 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,000 But with that, let's move on to our fun topic. 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,280 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a Journey to the Fringe. 46 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where we are pioneering the formula of fringe topics converging with words coming out of our mouths. 47 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:23,200 We are your mouths providing these fringy topics, Taylor and Chelsea. 48 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:30,560 And today we are taking a look at a topic near and dear to the heart of a 12 to 13 year old Taylor. 49 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 And that is Blink 182. 50 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:41,280 And what they've at least one member of the band has been up to in the last decade or so, particularly in the UFO community. 51 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Today, we are delving deep into the story of Tom DeLong, the lead singer and lead guitarist of Blink 182, 52 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:59,320 and why he ended up in the WikiLeaks of 2016 with Hillary's emails and how he became so intertwined in the UFO community. 53 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Now, Blink 182 has been around for a fucking long time due to like just by the time I got into them when I was like 12 years old, 54 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,360 I think they were already on their third album. 55 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,080 The first one I bought was Take Off Your Pants and Jacket. 56 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,680 And I think I was 12. 57 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,880 And that's like their fourth studio album. 58 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Yeah, probably. 59 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Tom DeLong is a founding member of Blink 182. 60 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Kim Markhopis, a guy by the name of Scott Rankor, who apparently was not that good of a drummer because he eventually gets replaced by Travis Barker of the Aquabats. 61 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:34,720 And become what is commonly known as probably one of the most widely selling pop-punk bands of the early 2000s. 62 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Now, while this is all going on, Tom DeLong got into UFOs or at least paranormal ideas in junior high. 63 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:48,160 He specifically says in many interviews that in the seventh grade, he found a book in the library with a picture of the Loch Ness Monster and UFOs on it. 64 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,120 He started reading it. Absolutely could not get enough of it. 65 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,360 And from there, just read every book you possibly could on UFOs, conspiracies, things like that, 66 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:02,840 to an extent where when Blink 182 started touring, they were in a van or in a bus going across the country. 67 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:10,000 He would take UFO books and that's what he would be doing while he's got nothing else to do on hours of driving across the country. 68 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,920 It was Nessie that started it off, eh? 69 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,080 A little bit, yeah. 70 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Because, you know, when you're 12, Nessie's pretty cool. 71 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,440 Yeah, I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same if I had downtime during, you know, touring and I was on a bus. 72 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,480 I'd probably be reading UFO books too. 73 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Tom's obsession with aliens, you can see in some of the works of Blink 182. 74 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,520 Specifically, there's a song on Animal at the State called Aliens Exist. 75 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:37,040 There are a few allusions to different conspiracy theories, including just an overall idea of UFOs. 76 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Aliens, because it's called Aliens Exist and a reference to 12 Majestic Lies, which is talking about the Majestic 12, 77 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,360 which I don't think we've specifically done an episode on, but I think they've come up before. 78 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Yeah, I think they did somewhere as well. Not sure where. 79 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:57,120 It was around Project Blue Book, like way back in the day, that day happening in 2021. 80 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,280 That's a good one. Way to narrow it down. 81 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:05,440 Now, during this time, it's evident if you're talking to Tom DeLong or anybody who's close to Tom DeLong 82 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,680 and you ask him about Tom DeLong, UFOs are going to be very early on in the conversation. 83 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Like, this is an interview that he did during his time in early 2000. 84 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,080 So, ah, shit, you want to get me started on UFOs? 85 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 But just that one story. 86 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:30,280 All right. Well, I have a friend that's been working to out, like, the secrecy of UFOs for like 10 years. 87 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:37,320 And I met up with him on the East Coast and I asked him what he was doing, 88 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,240 wondering if there's anything I could do to help or whatever. 89 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:48,360 And he spent 10 years filming, like, over 500 top secret witnesses that work for the government. 90 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:56,040 And they all work for, like, you know, everywhere from CIA to Lockheed Martin to Boeing Corporation 91 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,400 to the Defense Intelligence Agency, the NSA and the NRO. 92 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,400 These are all, like, spy agencies and stuff. 93 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,640 And all these people are talking and they're on camera because they understand that this videotape 94 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,200 is what's going to get them to be able to testify in front of Congress. 95 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,440 And so they're all talking about a lot of things about aliens and UFOs from people that were in charge 96 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 of, like, a whole nuclear missile inventory. 97 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 They were in charge, people that worked at, like, NORAD and all this stuff. 98 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,880 And there's one guy's talking because he used to work for the Air Force. 99 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,400 They're called the Blue Berets and they work for a nuclear, like, clean-up task force. 100 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 And so they get these pages and they'd fly all over the earth. 101 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,480 And if there was, like, a nuclear warhead that's leaking or something's going wrong, 102 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,640 they were the only ones that had top-secret clearance high enough to, like, fix our, 103 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,440 and contain the area where our own nuclear weapons are. 104 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,040 Looks like no one's allowed to see them. 105 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,560 But he was one of a few people that would get his page and they'd fly across wherever, 106 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 the continent or whatever, and they would land. 107 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,640 And instead of there being, like, a nuclear warhead, there would be, like, a crashed UFO 108 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,920 and alien bodies and stuff. 109 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,400 And he was on this crash retrieval team and he talks about all these stories that he used to 110 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,320 get bodies and the actual hardware. 111 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,360 And he was the one that was responsible to make sure he gets shipped down to, like, 112 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,560 Wright-Pythagorean Air Force Base and to the Nevada test range where Area 51 is and stuff. 113 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Oh, that's why he looks so young. 114 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,820 Yeah. 115 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Look at all that Atticus swag. 116 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Well, he started Atticus. 117 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Like, that's one of his brands. 118 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,240 It's clear from that video, like, this guy is deeply immersed in it and it keeps going on. 119 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,000 Like, he's talking about retired military people that he's talked to 120 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,560 and interviewed and he has video of talking about their experiences with aliens and UFOs 121 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:45,480 while they were working for the government. 122 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,000 The guy's obsessed and Travis Barker, the drummer for Blink-22, was interviewed by Joe Rogan, 123 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,600 I believe in 2018. 124 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,480 And Joe asked him about Tom and he's like, oh, yeah, that guy's just obsessed with UFOs. 125 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,960 He was invited out but declined for a Bigfoot hunt at one of the tour stops. 126 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,120 So I have to ask you, does Tom talk about UFOs all the time? 127 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Well, you know he's not in the band. 128 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Yeah, I know. 129 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,760 You know? 130 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,960 But did he always do that? 131 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,080 He always did. 132 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:13,960 The other day I talked to him. 133 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,720 He's like, I'm on the way to the fucking White House, bro. 134 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,520 And I don't ask any questions. 135 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,160 I'd be like, as you should be, you know, whatever. 136 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Let's fucking go. 137 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,120 So the guy's just been constantly obsessed with UFOs. 138 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,920 And in 2015, after much success with the band, he decides to part ways. 139 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,840 His official statement is this. 140 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 The last show I played was in front of 100,000 people. 141 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,360 And then they wonder why I'm not doing that now. 142 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,360 And I'll say because this is the one moment in my life where I'll be able to look back 143 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,200 as an old man and say, oh, my God, I was part of the team that changed the world. 144 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,800 As an artist, I kind of conquered what I wanted to do with music. 145 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,320 So I thought it is time to kind of do something else. 146 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,080 I left my band and all that I was known for because this is the moment in time 147 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,680 that I can change the world for my kids and everybody else's. 148 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:04,920 Blink 182 outside of Tom has a different statement that they put out. 149 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,640 A week before we were scheduled to go into the studio, 150 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,320 we got an email from Tom's manager explaining that he didn't want to participate 151 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:17,240 in any Blink 182 projects indefinite, but would rather work on his other non-musical endeavors. 152 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,520 No hard feelings, but the show must go on for our fans. 153 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,680 At this point, Tom leaves the band. 154 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:23,480 Interesting. 155 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,200 He's replaced with the lead singer from the Alkaline Trio. 156 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,920 And there's a bit of come and go with these guys, but this is like the official part ways. 157 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,520 Yeah, that never goes well. 158 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,000 Yeah. 159 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,760 After this happened, Tom did an interview with a website called Paper, 160 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,160 where he talked about a whole bunch of weird stuff. 161 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,960 Here we go. 162 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,200 He talks about being wiretapped by the government. 163 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 I've had my phone tapped for quite some time. 164 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,560 Years ago, there was somebody who was gathering 150 hours of top secret testimony 165 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:55,640 specifically for congressional hearings on government projects in the US secret space program. 166 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,120 People from NASA, Rome, the Vatican, you name it. 167 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,000 They're all on there. 168 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,680 The top 36 hours that summarize the best parts of all that footage, 169 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:05,000 I had it hidden in my house for a period of time. 170 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,560 And during that time, I was flying this person out 171 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:11,000 along with somebody that was Werner von Braun's right-hand assistant. 172 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,560 What? 173 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:12,200 Yeah. 174 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,840 These are weird statements to be making in this interview. 175 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,080 I couldn't find the official interview. 176 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,160 I could only find summaries of it. 177 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,400 And they all talk about these parts that came up. 178 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,680 He talked about mind control. 179 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,880 At the time, I didn't know it, but the person I was dealing with was being awoken 180 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 in the middle of the night with clicking and buzzing noises 181 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,080 and falling on the ground vomiting every morning at 4 a.m. 182 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,760 I know now that those are artifacts from mind control experiments 183 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,640 where the same technology that we use to find oil underground, 184 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,920 we can zap somebody at the same frequency that the brain operates on 185 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 and it can cause some really horrific things to happen. 186 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,880 He talks about how he thinks he's a bit of a molder from X-Files. 187 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,320 One time, I remember bringing up a very specific craft 188 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,880 that I believed we were building in a secret 189 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,040 to emulate the phenomenon that our government has been observing for decades. 190 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,560 So I started talking about the craft and its magnetic slide system, 191 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,280 how it displaces over 89% of the mass of the ship, 192 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,680 how it ionizes the engine, how it glows. 193 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:09,080 I went through the whole thing and this engineer looks at me. 194 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,400 This guy is 70 years old and he goes, 195 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,320 you better be real fucking careful about what you're talking about. 196 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,000 I go, okay, so I'm close. 197 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 And he goes, I'm not fucking around with you. 198 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,840 You better be really fucking careful. 199 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,040 And he calls me up the next day and he goes, I've had calls about you. 200 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,600 If someone comes and asks you to get in their car, 201 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,200 don't fucking get in the car. 202 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,880 And then he also talks about camping outside of Area 51. 203 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,560 When we went out there the first night, 204 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,760 we decided to run through this protocol where you project your thoughts. 205 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,320 So we decided to do it and we were up mad late, but nothing happened. 206 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,720 I kept telling the guys, if anything was going to happen, 207 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,320 it would happen at three in the morning 208 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,560 because that's the time when things like this happen. 209 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:48,600 Don't ask me why. 210 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,520 We put about four logs on the fire and everything is illuminated by the fire. 211 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,440 And we fall asleep around one or two. 212 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,960 I woke up right around 3 a.m. 213 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,280 My whole body felt like it had static electricity. 214 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,280 I opened my eyes and the fire is still going. 215 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,520 And there's a conversation going on outside the tent. 216 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,560 It sounded like there were about 20 people there talking. 217 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:08,280 And instantly my mind goes, OK, they're at our campsite. 218 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,560 They're not here to hurt us. 219 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:13,320 They're talking about shit, but I can't make out what they're saying. 220 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,160 But they're working on something. 221 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Then I close my eyes and wake up and the fire is out. 222 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,240 And I have about three hours of lost time. 223 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Huh. 224 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Like it was a bizarre interview to say the least from what I'm gathering. 225 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,080 And right around this time, he decides he's going to start 226 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,840 a company called To The Stars Academy. 227 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,000 I generally call it To The Stars Academy. 228 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,480 The full name is To The Stars Academy of Art and Science, LLC. 229 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,360 With the mission being to be a powerful vehicle for change by creating a consortium 230 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,520 among science, aerospace and entertainment that will work collectively to allow gifted 231 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,160 researchers the freedom to explore exotic science and technologies with the infrastructure 232 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,560 and resources to rapidly transition them to products that can change the world. 233 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,440 The company was built based on the frustration of government secrecy 234 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,920 on the topics of space and the universe. 235 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,280 After this, in 2016, Tom released his first novel. 236 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,600 He did have a few other releases outside of this, but they're not really 237 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,080 necessary for the topic that we're talking about. 238 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,880 This novel is called Secret Machines and it's a series. 239 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,720 This first one is called Chasing Shadows. 240 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,160 It was written with the help of a man by the name of A.J. Hartley. 241 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,080 He's a New York Times bestselling author and an English professor outside of that. 242 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,280 So I'm guessing Tom just told him what he wanted the story to be about. 243 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,800 And this guy wrote the story. 244 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,280 Mm hmm. 245 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,320 I've read the book. 246 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,480 It's basically a Dan Brown story like The Da Vinci Code. 247 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Oh, yeah. 248 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,640 But with aliens more or less, but not quite aliens. 249 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Here's the synopsis of the book. 250 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,920 The witnesses are legions scattered across the world and dotted through history, 251 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,520 people who looked up and saw something impossible lighting up the night sky. 252 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,280 What those objects were, where they came from and who or what might be inside them is the subject 253 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,920 of fierce debate and equally fierce mockery so that most who glimpsed them came to wish they 254 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,000 hadn't. Most but not everyone. 255 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Among those who know what they've seen and like the toll of a bell that can't be unrung 256 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,880 or forever changed by it are a pilot, an heiress, a journalist and a prisoner of war. 257 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,280 From the waning days of the 20th century's final great war to the fraught fields of 258 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Afghanistan to the otherworldly secret hidden amid Nevada's dusty Netherlands. 259 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,000 The truth that is out there will propel each of them into a labyrinth of 260 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,800 otherworldly technology and the competing aims of those who might seek to prevent or harness 261 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,760 these beings from fathomable power. Because as it turns out, we are not the only ones who can 262 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:33,320 invent and build and destroy. Featuring actual events and other truths drawn from sources within 263 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,400 the military and intelligence community, Tom DeLong and A.J. Hartley offer a tale at once 264 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,600 terrifyingly fantastical and perhaps all too real. Though it is of course a work of fiction? 265 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,560 I would say most definitely. 266 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,400 I find that to be such an odd book, just like he's pulling from everything he knows, 267 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,480 but also just making up the story. 268 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Secret machines also just so that we're all on the same page. Much like most things we talk about 269 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:06,520 on this podcast, it's spelt wrong. It's secret with a K where you would most expect it. 270 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Just like sex magic. 271 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Yeah. Basically, Tom really markets this as the hidden truths that he was able to uncover 272 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,920 through his vast studies and who he's talked to within the UFO and alien community. He was also 273 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:25,560 going to push this as it was going to be spun off as TV series, as movies and really make up 274 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,080 the multimedia side of To The Stars Academy. 275 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,040 And is this a work of fiction or nonfiction? 276 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:37,720 He expressly says it's a work of fiction, but it's based on his understanding of like what 277 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,680 information the U.S. has been able to uncover about aliens and UFOs. And you're going to see 278 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,680 what he's uncovered. 279 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,080 It's so bizarre to me. It's just like muddy water. 280 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Oh, full of shit is what it is to me. 281 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Yeah. 282 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:58,360 But then after this, a really weird thing happens. WikiLeaks gets a hold of a server of Hillary 283 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Clinton's emails. Of course, PizzaGate happens, but that's not what we're talking about here. 284 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,520 What we're actually talking about is email correspondence between Tom DeLong and John 285 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Nesta, who was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager. And they're full on talking about UFOs, Tom's 286 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:20,440 plans and people he's been talking to within the UFO community. I found a few just to give you an 287 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,480 example. 288 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,400 From what I recall, this actually helped his... 289 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,360 Credibility. 290 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:31,320 Credibility at the time, because until this he would just sounded a little bit crazy. And then 291 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,320 this happened and people were kind of like, oh. 292 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,720 Oh, you've actually been talking to high up people. 293 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Yeah. You can actually tie him to one of these people that he's not disclosing any information 294 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,360 about. 295 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:48,120 Yeah. That happens. And there's so many emails. If you go on to go check it out, you can go on 296 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:54,440 WikiLeaks and just search Tom DeLong. You are going to find a trove of emails between him and 297 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,480 John Podesta. There's a couple that might be worth going over, but I think it's fine. Just go see 298 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,760 for yourself what's in there. After this, Tom's email is sent to the CIA. 299 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:11,080 After this, Tom starts going on a media circuit to remote to the Stars Academy and secret machines. 300 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:18,360 So he goes on the Joe Rogan podcast. And to sum it up best, I found two clippings of the show where 301 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,040 he's on there. 302 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 I'm not going to really get into that here. I can't say who they were, but I want to get into that 303 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,440 kind of stuff. If you don't mind, I just can't tell you who it's from. You know, I can't really 304 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,560 get into now because of the positions and the things I'm involved with. 305 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Okay. 306 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,520 And a few other things that I want to get into. And I can't tell you some of the shit that I know 307 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,480 others. I can't tell you about it. Obviously that's the shit I can't tell you. 308 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Damn. It was all this, I can't tell you stuff. 309 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,440 I know. I got into it when I was in junior high. I don't want to get into that, but I 310 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,480 won't tell you his name. 311 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Well, I think we can find his name. 312 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,400 Maybe. 313 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,360 Michael Hayden, former director of NSA and the CIA. 314 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:51,960 No, that's not him. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you if you try and find out. 315 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,560 What can you guys just fishing around over here? 316 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,120 Interesting. 317 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:55,160 You said so much. 318 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,720 I know. 319 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,480 So weird what you can and can't say. 320 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Well, I could tell you other shit offline probably. 321 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,360 Oh, okay. Offline. I can't wait to end this podcast. 322 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:03,560 All right. Are we off? 323 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,360 Yeah. 324 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:07,000 Are we off? Are we off? 325 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,200 He can't get into it. He can't tell you. Can't do it. 326 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,680 Like the fact they were able to do a minute long super cut of him saying, 327 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,240 I can't tell you that over the course of like an hour and a half episode of the Joe Rogan 328 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,880 experience. 329 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,720 That's kind of what he's known for doing. 330 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,520 Yeah. It gives you an idea of like what he brought to the table there. 331 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:41,480 And it was just a few crazy videos of UFOs that Joe Rogan's just like, that's not a UFO. 332 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,560 And then the rest of him asking questions. He's like, yeah, I can't tell you. 333 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,520 And Chelsea, if you just want to play the next one, 334 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,440 just because I just think it's a great little release after that one. 335 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Know your place, motherfucker. 336 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,580 No. 337 00:19:57,580 --> 00:20:02,620 So you literally could fly around and grab a Coke out of someone's hand and put it in 338 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:04,220 someone else's hand. It's really. 339 00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:05,420 Where are you getting this from? 340 00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:07,740 The little, the little aliens with the big black eyes. 341 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:15,420 I believe technology exists. God, I want to believe so hard. 342 00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:18,300 I mean, I can believe in things. I can't prove a lot of things. 343 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,540 Do they have any pickled bodies anywhere? 344 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:21,580 I can't tell you. 345 00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:23,980 You are fucking crazy when you start talking about this. 346 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:25,020 I'm going to show you my dick. 347 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:28,620 It changes shape. What I've noticed is it's just changing. 348 00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:32,300 Yeah, it's getting larger, larger, getting wider, depending upon what you put in it. 349 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:36,620 It's not even that it's warping the space time continuum around tacos. 350 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:41,900 I think it was a good representation. 351 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:48,700 So, yeah, it was an awkward episode of Joe Rogan experience to say the least, 352 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:53,180 but something that came up in here, he starts talking about how we really got into this part 353 00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:56,940 of to the UFO community. He says he first met with a government official. 354 00:20:56,940 --> 00:21:02,140 When he had like what he was going to put into a book, he thought it would be important to run past 355 00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:07,980 government offices because, you know, he, knowing so much about UFOs, figured out the answer to 356 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:12,620 what's going on, wrote it all down. And before he processed it and put it out to the public, 357 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:15,820 sent it to the government and said, like, hey, just so you know, I'm going to be publishing this. 358 00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:17,100 What? 359 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,660 And the government came back and they set up a meeting between him and an unknown government 360 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:27,820 official that he wouldn't identify. We know who that public official is because he sent an email 361 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:33,980 to John Podesta with the subject line General McCasland. And in that email, it says he mentioned 362 00:21:33,980 --> 00:21:39,660 he's a skeptic. He's not. I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him 363 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:44,140 a four hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago. So I'm pretty sure it's General 364 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:49,180 McCasland. Sorry, I might've just gotten him killed for that. I don't know. If you're just putting it 365 00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:53,180 together now, then I'm sorry, but thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 366 00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:55,100 We did that. 367 00:21:55,900 --> 00:22:01,660 This unknown government official that he's talking to says it was the Cold War and everything we did 368 00:22:01,660 --> 00:22:06,060 at the time was to avoid nuclear war. And that's when we discovered aliens. And they go on to have 369 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:11,420 an hour long conversation that Tom describes as life-changing, but can't get into the details or 370 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:17,100 who this was. But, you know, again, it was probably General McCasland. And if you have 371 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:22,140 listened to that last little bit, it becomes clear. He says, I can't tell you much more, a lot. 372 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:28,060 Unless you're off error in an email, then he will subject the email with the name of said person. 373 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:35,900 Exactly. Anyhow, like this real weird, pretty much train wreck of a Joe Rogan podcast doesn't stop 374 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:41,820 to the Stars Academy. And in 2017, a website by the name of Open Minds TV gave Tom DeLong the 375 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:48,380 honor of being the 2017 International UFO Congress UFO Researcher of the Year. While he wasn't there 376 00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:52,700 to personally accept his award, he delivered an acceptance speech on video mentioning that his 377 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:57,740 work isn't done. And I want you as an educated group of people to read between the lines and 378 00:22:57,740 --> 00:23:02,540 look at the history of what I've been doing over the past couple of years and get a sense for what 379 00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:07,180 the hell I'm getting ready to do. If you guys come along for the ride, it's going to be pretty 380 00:23:07,180 --> 00:23:12,700 fantastic. At that point, no one really knows what exactly he has been doing. Nobody exactly 381 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:19,740 knows what he has been doing or who Open Minds.tv is. At least I don't. I didn't end up looking into 382 00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:24,300 who else they've named the UFO Researcher of the Year. Maybe that was the one and only time. 383 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:30,700 But I saw this highlighted a couple of places, so I guess it needs to be brought up. Okay, fair enough. 384 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:36,700 Okay, now we're going to get into some things about To the Stars Academy. So it's a Delaware 385 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:42,460 company and they have a very unique corporate structure in Delaware that's known as a public 386 00:23:42,460 --> 00:23:48,540 benefit corporation. That means that the companies are eligible to crowdfund. Instead of going on a 387 00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:54,620 stock market, you can crowdfund up to $50 million from individuals within the United States. And 388 00:23:54,620 --> 00:24:00,380 this is the path that To the Stars Academy has chosen to do for collecting money. I will tell you, 389 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:07,340 it is not the most common way to incorporate a company or to look for investors, but this is 390 00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:12,620 the way they have chosen. It also means that they have different disclosure responsibilities as a 391 00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:18,380 company compared to an IPO as a regular corporation trying to be publicly traded. That might be going 392 00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:24,700 over your head right now, but if you looked on the To the Stars Academy website, you'll notice 393 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:30,460 that you can invest right there on the website. If you are on the To the Stars Academy website, 394 00:24:30,460 --> 00:24:35,900 tothestars.media, in the top right, there's a little button that is invest and you'll have 395 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:41,900 several options for investing in this company. You can invest $5 a share and I believe you can 396 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:48,460 invest up to $200. It might've changed since they originally went into crowdfunding, but that was 397 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:51,740 originally what you were capped at. They have a little bit of information on their website, 398 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:56,540 but it's a unique way to invest and it's a very new way to invest. Not a lot of people know much 399 00:24:56,540 --> 00:25:02,700 about it outside of select techie bros. Anyways, they do still have some disclosure requirements 400 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:08,380 as a public benefit corporation. I found a few select things that we need to talk about within 401 00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:13,420 this disclosure document that aren't great. So let's just get into it. It's going to be contractual 402 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:18,220 wording, Chelsea. Might be a little heavy, but if you have any questions, let me know as we go along. 403 00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:25,500 Okay. Starting right off the bat, Tom DeLong, Mr. Handsome LLC and Good in Bed Music have licensed 404 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:31,180 intellectual property rights to To the Stars Academy for five years under a verbal license 405 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:37,260 and currently under a licensing agreement dated April 26th, 2017. The rights include name and 406 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:43,100 likeness, rights of publicity for Mr. DeLong, trademarks, copyrights, domains, names, social 407 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:48,540 media handles, master recordings and musical compositions. We as the company To the Stars 408 00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:55,420 Academy are required to pay Mr. DeLong royalties on gross sales ranging from 0.5 to 15% depending on 409 00:25:55,420 --> 00:26:00,380 the product category. Mr. DeLong has the right to approve any royalty granted to a third party in 410 00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:05,740 connection with the licensed product. If total royalty payments to Mr. DeLong and his parties 411 00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:11,420 in any given calendar year fail to meet $100,000, we have agreed to pay any shortfalls such as the 412 00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:17,260 annual minimum royalty paid to Mr. DeLong's parties will be $100,000. Licensing agreement allows Mr. 413 00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:23,260 DeLong to elect to invest any royalty payment due to him for the development of licensed products 414 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:27,260 beyond what is commercially practical to To the Stars Academy and regroup the investment. 415 00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:32,540 So he owns the rights to all his music, all the books he's written, anything else that he's 416 00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:38,940 contracting out. They have to pay X% directly to him from any sale. It doesn't just go into the 417 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:43,260 company. He gets money paid out outside of the company and everything that he's come up with on 418 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:48,700 top of that. And if they're not having great sales, he'll still get $100,000 every year no matter what. 419 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:53,420 Next line, during 2018, the company entered into a revolving line of credit agreement 420 00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:58,220 with Tom DeLong, the beneficial owner of its majority shareholder evidenced by a security 421 00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:03,900 promissory note. From the company to Mr. DeLong maturing on December 31st, 2019, the line of credit 422 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:10,460 allows the company to borrow funds up to a total amount of $495,000 on a revolving basis and bears 423 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:17,180 interest at 8.58% annual. The notes require minimum monthly payments of principal and interest and is 424 00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:21,500 secured by certain intellectual property rights of the company. The company has been utilizing 425 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:25,180 the line of credit as a source of additional operating funds for working capital needs and 426 00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:31,020 plans to continue doing so during 2019. As of December 31st, 2018, the company had outstanding 427 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:37,020 borrowing and accrued interest owing under the line of credit in the amount of $335,000 and $4,240 428 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:43,260 respect. So he's been lending the company money and getting back a fairly good return on investment 429 00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:49,020 at 8.5%, which I don't know, Chelsea, do you have a savings account at the bank? 430 00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:49,500 Yes. 431 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,260 Do you get 8.5%? 432 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:52,620 No, not even close. 433 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:55,660 That's a pretty damn good promissory note right there. 434 00:27:55,660 --> 00:27:56,620 It really is. 435 00:27:56,620 --> 00:28:00,700 Tom DeLong is also the founder and interim CEO of the company. He's also the president 436 00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:05,420 of the company, Subsiriye, to the stars Inc. His award-winning entertainment career spans over two 437 00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:11,100 decades with music sales over 25 million records worldwide in the band co-founded by 22 and angels 438 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:16,540 and airwaves. Since 2011 at to the stars Inc. Mr. DeLong has co-authored and published multiple 439 00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:20,940 chart-topping books written and directed both live action and animated films, as well as created 440 00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:26,060 various multimedia franchises that have expanded into successful merchandise brands. Prior to 441 00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:31,020 forming the company, Mr. DeLong co-founded really likable people Inc. parent company of multiple 442 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:35,180 international consumer lifestyle brands and the technology platform ModLife Inc. which formed in 443 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:41,660 2007 and empowered artists with digital content monetization tools. Mr. DeLong has been recognized 444 00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:45,820 for his creative endeavors across music books and films, including the awards for best video, 445 00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:49,980 animated short films, best fiction, 2017 UFO researcher award. And sorry, I should have said 446 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:55,420 beforehand, I will right now. They do give a little description of why they've named Tom DeLong as CEO. 447 00:28:55,420 --> 00:29:00,780 They also had a very interesting, can I find it really quick? I thought I put this in here 448 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:06,700 and I closed that webpage. Damn it. Under recently closed tabs. No, I have too many from, 449 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:13,740 I've just closed so many. Sorry, I did close this tab, but I in that same release, Tom's sister also 450 00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:19,740 has an option to buy up to 6 million shares at one third of a cent per share. I believe she's 451 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:25,100 involved in the company somehow as well. Yeah, she is. We as the public can buy them at $5 per 452 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:30,300 share. She can buy that one third of a cent per share. That's a nice dispute. I will correct if 453 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:34,780 I'm wrong, but it was ridiculous. It was for like 6 million stocks. So there's some sketchy things 454 00:29:34,780 --> 00:29:40,220 in there. He's making money off of the royalties that he's selling to the Stars Academy. He is 455 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:45,820 making money off of loaning this company money and he is by far the majority shareholder of this 456 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:51,900 company. And he's also asking just the public at large without the normal IPO, initial public 457 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:57,420 offering occurring on this open stock market to invest in this company with a less than stellar 458 00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:02,540 document to show what this company is up to and its financial endeavors. Do you know the reason why 459 00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:08,540 he would choose to do that over being publicly traded? He said it was because he wanted a more 460 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:14,620 democratic company or to be at least less structured in the way that corporations normally are. My guess 461 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:20,140 is it has less disclosure issues. There would have been a reason for sure that he chose to do it that 462 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:25,340 way versus... And especially this allows him to sell it on his website that you can invest in the 463 00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:31,180 company. Whereas other ways you have to invest on it through a stock exchange, which is why it's 464 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:36,380 right up on there. By the way, I don't know the legality of it in Delaware law, but this is something 465 00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:43,260 that you can do in BC as well. The website will be front funder, F R O N T F U N D R. You can invest, 466 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:49,260 I think up to $200 in any company in BC that's up on that website. It always seems like a fairly bad 467 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:55,740 investment in my mind though. And generally the companies that go up on those websites don't want 468 00:30:55,740 --> 00:31:00,300 to give you any control. So you're just putting that money in and hoping it goes well. Yeah. 469 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:05,020 From what I end, it's mostly a lot of startup companies just like to the stars is pretty much. 470 00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:08,700 Yeah, exactly. But you have less power because you're not an angel investor putting in huge 471 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:15,820 amounts of monies dictating the terms. They dictate how much you can invest into it, right? 472 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:21,580 And the price. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, it changes from province and state to province to state. 473 00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:27,580 If you're looking at crowdfunding securities, please look at your local securities laws. 474 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:31,980 Doesn't look great, at least from reading that document. There's a few other things, 475 00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:36,700 but I'm not going to get into them at this point, but eventually to the stars starts to pay off in 476 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:44,460 weird ways. So in October of 2019 to the stars Academy leaks out to the public, a Navy video of 477 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:49,340 an unidentified aerial phenomenon as they call it in colloquial speech within the government. 478 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:56,060 And then in 2020 Navy also publishes three of the longs UFO videos. This is front and center 479 00:31:56,060 --> 00:32:02,220 in like late 2020, 2021. They're all the talk. Like the Nimitz video is probably the most talked 480 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:07,820 about UFO video of the past decade. Like I don't think it's a stretch to say that. Yeah. And that 481 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:13,020 comes right from to the stars Academy outside of that to the stars does have a YouTube channel, 482 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,940 but they don't use it at all. It appears because it's old as videos, four years old, there's 10 483 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:20,860 videos and they haven't posted in two years. So, and they're all very short, so they don't really 484 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:27,660 use it. But this company is set up to as a ton of podcasts. It's meant to create TV series, movies, 485 00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:34,540 comics, podcasts, books, and other likenesses on the UFO phenomenon. What have they been up to 486 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:39,420 recently? Well, he didn't actually put a date on it, but it's one of the newest articles on to the 487 00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:45,900 stars Academy's website. And I saw it posted on Reddit on, um, that was submitted 10 days ago. So 488 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:51,340 it was in August and Tom had this to say, I was up late last night researching a subject. I've been 489 00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:56,460 obsessed with for about 12 months. Now, if I were to just tell you what it is, you would laugh out 490 00:32:56,460 --> 00:33:01,660 loud. You would never guess that there is potentially more evidence for this one phenomenon than there 491 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:07,660 is for UFOs at this point. Hopefully I approved to many of you that I may sound crazy, but I do know 492 00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:12,700 what I'm talking about when it comes to some of life's greatest parties. I am passionate that they 493 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:17,500 should be taken more seriously, both academically and in the court of public opinion. I am no 494 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:22,220 stranger to being laughed at for my ideas and passions. Blink 182 wasn't taken seriously in 495 00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:27,260 the beginning, but is now considered one of the most influential rock bands of all time. The public 496 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:32,860 also skewered me for wanting to research UFOs with serious rigor and respect. Now I am invited to 497 00:33:32,860 --> 00:33:38,780 speak in places like the FBI's behavioral analysis unit, but how I was able to conquer the stigma and 498 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:43,980 bring prestigious people together to change the world's perspective of what unidentified aerial 499 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:49,660 phenomena are or could be. But my curiosity does not stop there. It is even more insatiable now 500 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:54,940 that I have a greater belief that these things are real. I am electrified with a nuclear lightning 501 00:33:54,940 --> 00:34:00,700 bolt to bring them to the forefront of pop culture. Back to my newest obsession, a mirage like black 502 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:05,980 in shadow that peers into your window at night. An apparition appearing in historical legends written 503 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:10,620 over thousands of years on every continent. Native American records about people snatching 504 00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:15,420 and cannibalism. The smells of rotting flesh, it can disappear at will or become completely physical. 505 00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:19,900 Disturbing to say the least, the US government has researched this phenomenon and there is potential 506 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:24,460 genetic evidence that scientists are finding difficult to decode. There are many firsthand 507 00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:29,420 reports of this paranormal mystery continually popping up all over the world. There are thermal, 508 00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:34,460 infrared and radio frequency recordings with multiple PhD academics trying to understand 509 00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:39,260 its motivations, whereabouts and genesis. To the Stars has hired a great screenwriter who's 510 00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:43,980 developing a feature film script about this very topic called the Wild Men. But you may know this 511 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:49,340 mystery by another name, Bigfoot. I'm so excited about it. Help me create an entertaining story to 512 00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:55,020 show what this thing is, what it is doing and what it means to our understanding of who we are and 513 00:34:55,020 --> 00:35:01,420 what we are. Signed off Tom. So apparently his next thing's going to be Bigfoot. Interesting. I 514 00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:07,340 wonder what work of fiction he's going to put out in regards to it. Also, did he say the government 515 00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:13,500 has done studies into Bigfoot? Yes. Didn't know that. I have not seen specific studies about Bigfoot 516 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:18,060 put on by the US government. I am excited to see what he actually drops because every now and then 517 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:23,500 what he says actually pays dividends. Really? Well, the Nimitz video is one of the things I'm talking 518 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:28,140 about. Okay. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Like he seems crazy and like some of the things are 519 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:33,500 set up very sketchily, but every now and then it pays out. True. True. We, he has proved that he 520 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:39,020 does pay out sometimes. Yeah. And then like just recently he was Steve-O. Do you know from Jackass? 521 00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:44,220 Yeah, of course. Yeah. He has a podcast and Tom DeLonge was just on there. Oh geez. Yeah. And you 522 00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:51,100 know, if you want somebody to critically analyze your views, like Steve-O is the guy. Also, I'm 523 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:58,540 sorry to say it, but Steve-O just doesn't have the voice for radio. Great guy. Raspiest fuck voice. 524 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:05,260 What a great story that was. It's hard to listen, but like they touched on like so many like 525 00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:11,340 absolutely ridiculous UFO topics. He talks about how they're all just time travelers from the future. 526 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:18,060 Talks about Fatima and then moves on to... DeLonge? Fetima. Fetima, Fetima. Yeah. And then moves on to 527 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:26,620 project Serpo and then talks about how... No. Serpo. Yeah. And then moves on to how he was just 528 00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:31,820 meeting with the Italian government about UFOs they saw over the Mediterranean that shot down 529 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:36,620 one of their helicopters and that he was in the room talking to the pilot and co-pilot of the 530 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:42,620 helicopter that was shot down by a UFO. With the government of Italy. Yeah. Yeah. And he says that 531 00:36:42,620 --> 00:36:50,220 all in the same sentence of Serpo. It was within the same three minute period. Like yeah. And then 532 00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:57,580 Steve-O cuts to a Viagra commercial. Nice. But chewable Viagra because apparently that was a problem. 533 00:36:59,180 --> 00:37:06,380 Well, it is for the oldies. And apparently the raspy devoiced. But yeah, bet you didn't think 534 00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:12,700 that an episode on Blink-182 would end with credible information coming out about UFOs. 535 00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:17,340 Unless you did the research for this episode in which it became very clear that it would. 536 00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:23,820 And there is only a couple of places when you're like, okay, he was right. And he did do that. 537 00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:30,780 But it's also meant with a lot of yike. He did that. To give Joe Rogan full credit, when he is on 538 00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:36,700 and actually wants to critically analyze something. Boy, howdy. Did he absolutely make Tom look like 539 00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:41,260 an idiot on that podcast? Because he can't say anything. He just asked a follow-up question. 540 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:46,780 Can't say anything. Doesn't always do it. And I hate him for it. But when he's on, he is on like 541 00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:51,580 that episode. But if he can't say anything, he shouldn't even be out in the pub. Like he's the 542 00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:57,660 base of the brand though. So he has to, but at the same time, he can't say anything and he looks 543 00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:03,420 like a dumbass. Yeah. No, and it's hilarious because he's like, he said the government wanted him to 544 00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:07,180 do this because they can't do it personally, because they don't have the avenues to media 545 00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:14,540 like he does. And they're like, okay, what can you say? Oh, I can't say it. Yeah. Like it makes the 546 00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:19,980 fucking. Like, and then he just. He shouldn't have been doing it. Like literally, if you haven't seen 547 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:25,100 it, let me just take a quick look here. It is episode. Then it's also so weird because you 548 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:32,220 can't say anything. It's episode 1029 of the Joe Rogan experience. And it ends with Tom like 549 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:37,900 going on YouTube and just showing him YouTube videos of UFOs and Rogan being like, is this guy 550 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:44,940 for real? Like these are all so fake. But it's so weird because he says he can't say anything, 551 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:51,260 but then he writes a bunch of like fiction books and it's so weird. It almost feels like, 552 00:38:51,260 --> 00:38:55,660 do you know how like the stories of vampires and demons are they like can't come into your house 553 00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:01,020 or they can't specifically say things that they have to allude to it in really weird ways. 554 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:06,540 So like need an invitation in your house. I'm not saying Tom DeLong is a vampire demon that 555 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:11,980 needs to be invited into the White House or something, but hey, he's when the shoe fits. 556 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:19,660 Yeah, true. Okay. We figured it out. We figured Tom DeLong. But anyhow, that's been Tom DeLong. 557 00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:24,060 I know you guys were all curious what he's been up to that that there you go. And in the next 558 00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:27,900 episode, we're going to be talking about To The Stars Academy and what it's about what it's done, 559 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:32,700 where it's gone and where it is now. And maybe where it's going. I don't know. Chelsea did that 560 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:38,220 episode. So I'm staying over that. Anyhow, thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 561 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:48,540 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 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