Today I have two topics. We're gonna go over both because these are sequential episodes.
Do you want to talk about Poland or do you want to talk about California?
This is a good first topic. Let's end with Poland. So California first.
Chelsea, when you think of California, what natural disasters come to mind?
Fires.
Yeah, forest fires. Would there be a second one in your mind?
Earthquakes? Because of them falling into the ocean?
Yeah, and creating the Arizona Bay. Look at you go.
Yeah, exactly.
Unfortunately, I have to add one more to your repertoire, and that's going to be earth-shatteringly large mega floods.
Oh, yes.
Yes. This is a story that was posted on August 12, 2022 on USA Today titled
Experts Warn California of a Disaster Larger Than Any in World History. It's Not an Earthquake.
Megadruss may be the main weather concern across the West right now amid the constant threat of wildfire and earthquakes,
but a new study warns another crisis is looming in California mega floods.
Climate change is increasing the risk of floods that could submerge cities and displace millions of people across the state,
according to a study released Friday. It says that an extreme month-long storm could bring feet of rain in some places,
more than 100 inches to hundreds of miles of California.
Similarly, unrelenting storms have happened in the past before the region came home to tens of millions of people.
Now, each degree of global warming is dramatically increasing the odds and size of the next mega flood, the study says.
When the floods hit in a warmer planet, the storm sequences bigger in almost every respect, said Daniel Swain,
UCLA climate scientist and co-author of the study in a news release.
There's more rain overall, more intense rainfall on an hourly basis and stronger wind.
In fact, the study found that the climate change makes such catastrophic flooding twice as likely to occur now.
Swain said that such massive statewide floods have occurred every century or two in California over the past millennia,
and today's risk of such events has been substantially underestimated.
Why this is a huge deal is because it would be in the LA area, and the massive flood is estimated to cost at least a trillion dollars in disaster,
and damage to people's lives and property.
That is significant.
Yeah, parts of cities such as Sacramento, Stockton, Fresno and Los Angeles would be underwater.
Even with today's extensive collection of reservoirs, levees and bypasses, it is estimated that it would be at least a trillion dollar disaster larger than any in world history.
They're basing this on because it's happened before.
It's a one in a hundred event, so it happens every century.
Ah, yes.
That's what we're getting now.
Yeah, and the fact that at that time, when this last happened, there were not that many people living in California.
And also they were not going through an extensive drought, which actually makes water less likely to absorb into the ground.
It's kind of that catch-22.
Hmm, yikes.
But yeah, one more fun thing to worry about in California.
When the water finally does come, it may kill everyone.
Sorry.
Yeah.
But with that, let's move on to our fun topic.
From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a Journey to the Fringe.
Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where we are pioneering the formula of fringe topics converging with words coming out of our mouths.
We are your mouths providing these fringy topics, Taylor and Chelsea.
And today we are taking a look at a topic near and dear to the heart of a 12 to 13 year old Taylor.
And that is Blink 182.
And what they've at least one member of the band has been up to in the last decade or so, particularly in the UFO community.
Today, we are delving deep into the story of Tom DeLong, the lead singer and lead guitarist of Blink 182,
and why he ended up in the WikiLeaks of 2016 with Hillary's emails and how he became so intertwined in the UFO community.
Now, Blink 182 has been around for a fucking long time due to like just by the time I got into them when I was like 12 years old,
I think they were already on their third album.
The first one I bought was Take Off Your Pants and Jacket.
And I think I was 12.
And that's like their fourth studio album.
Yeah, probably.
Tom DeLong is a founding member of Blink 182.
Kim Markhopis, a guy by the name of Scott Rankor, who apparently was not that good of a drummer because he eventually gets replaced by Travis Barker of the Aquabats.
And become what is commonly known as probably one of the most widely selling pop-punk bands of the early 2000s.
Now, while this is all going on, Tom DeLong got into UFOs or at least paranormal ideas in junior high.
He specifically says in many interviews that in the seventh grade, he found a book in the library with a picture of the Loch Ness Monster and UFOs on it.
He started reading it. Absolutely could not get enough of it.
And from there, just read every book you possibly could on UFOs, conspiracies, things like that,
to an extent where when Blink 182 started touring, they were in a van or in a bus going across the country.
He would take UFO books and that's what he would be doing while he's got nothing else to do on hours of driving across the country.
It was Nessie that started it off, eh?
A little bit, yeah.
Because, you know, when you're 12, Nessie's pretty cool.
Yeah, I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same if I had downtime during, you know, touring and I was on a bus.
I'd probably be reading UFO books too.
Tom's obsession with aliens, you can see in some of the works of Blink 182.
Specifically, there's a song on Animal at the State called Aliens Exist.
There are a few allusions to different conspiracy theories, including just an overall idea of UFOs.
Aliens, because it's called Aliens Exist and a reference to 12 Majestic Lies, which is talking about the Majestic 12,
which I don't think we've specifically done an episode on, but I think they've come up before.
Yeah, I think they did somewhere as well. Not sure where.
It was around Project Blue Book, like way back in the day, that day happening in 2021.
That's a good one. Way to narrow it down.
Now, during this time, it's evident if you're talking to Tom DeLong or anybody who's close to Tom DeLong
and you ask him about Tom DeLong, UFOs are going to be very early on in the conversation.
Like, this is an interview that he did during his time in early 2000.
So, ah, shit, you want to get me started on UFOs?
But just that one story.
All right. Well, I have a friend that's been working to out, like, the secrecy of UFOs for like 10 years.
And I met up with him on the East Coast and I asked him what he was doing,
wondering if there's anything I could do to help or whatever.
And he spent 10 years filming, like, over 500 top secret witnesses that work for the government.
And they all work for, like, you know, everywhere from CIA to Lockheed Martin to Boeing Corporation
to the Defense Intelligence Agency, the NSA and the NRO.
These are all, like, spy agencies and stuff.
And all these people are talking and they're on camera because they understand that this videotape
is what's going to get them to be able to testify in front of Congress.
And so they're all talking about a lot of things about aliens and UFOs from people that were in charge
of, like, a whole nuclear missile inventory.
They were in charge, people that worked at, like, NORAD and all this stuff.
And there's one guy's talking because he used to work for the Air Force.
They're called the Blue Berets and they work for a nuclear, like, clean-up task force.
And so they get these pages and they'd fly all over the earth.
And if there was, like, a nuclear warhead that's leaking or something's going wrong,
they were the only ones that had top-secret clearance high enough to, like, fix our,
and contain the area where our own nuclear weapons are.
Looks like no one's allowed to see them.
But he was one of a few people that would get his page and they'd fly across wherever,
the continent or whatever, and they would land.
And instead of there being, like, a nuclear warhead, there would be, like, a crashed UFO
and alien bodies and stuff.
And he was on this crash retrieval team and he talks about all these stories that he used to
get bodies and the actual hardware.
And he was the one that was responsible to make sure he gets shipped down to, like,
Wright-Pythagorean Air Force Base and to the Nevada test range where Area 51 is and stuff.
Oh, that's why he looks so young.
Yeah.
Look at all that Atticus swag.
Well, he started Atticus.
Like, that's one of his brands.
It's clear from that video, like, this guy is deeply immersed in it and it keeps going on.
Like, he's talking about retired military people that he's talked to
and interviewed and he has video of talking about their experiences with aliens and UFOs
while they were working for the government.
The guy's obsessed and Travis Barker, the drummer for Blink-22, was interviewed by Joe Rogan,
I believe in 2018.
And Joe asked him about Tom and he's like, oh, yeah, that guy's just obsessed with UFOs.
He was invited out but declined for a Bigfoot hunt at one of the tour stops.
So I have to ask you, does Tom talk about UFOs all the time?
Well, you know he's not in the band.
Yeah, I know.
You know?
But did he always do that?
He always did.
The other day I talked to him.
He's like, I'm on the way to the fucking White House, bro.
And I don't ask any questions.
I'd be like, as you should be, you know, whatever.
Let's fucking go.
So the guy's just been constantly obsessed with UFOs.
And in 2015, after much success with the band, he decides to part ways.
His official statement is this.
The last show I played was in front of 100,000 people.
And then they wonder why I'm not doing that now.
And I'll say because this is the one moment in my life where I'll be able to look back
as an old man and say, oh, my God, I was part of the team that changed the world.
As an artist, I kind of conquered what I wanted to do with music.
So I thought it is time to kind of do something else.
I left my band and all that I was known for because this is the moment in time
that I can change the world for my kids and everybody else's.
Blink 182 outside of Tom has a different statement that they put out.
A week before we were scheduled to go into the studio,
we got an email from Tom's manager explaining that he didn't want to participate
in any Blink 182 projects indefinite, but would rather work on his other non-musical endeavors.
No hard feelings, but the show must go on for our fans.
At this point, Tom leaves the band.
Interesting.
He's replaced with the lead singer from the Alkaline Trio.
And there's a bit of come and go with these guys, but this is like the official part ways.
Yeah, that never goes well.
Yeah.
After this happened, Tom did an interview with a website called Paper,
where he talked about a whole bunch of weird stuff.
Here we go.
He talks about being wiretapped by the government.
I've had my phone tapped for quite some time.
Years ago, there was somebody who was gathering 150 hours of top secret testimony
specifically for congressional hearings on government projects in the US secret space program.
People from NASA, Rome, the Vatican, you name it.
They're all on there.
The top 36 hours that summarize the best parts of all that footage,
I had it hidden in my house for a period of time.
And during that time, I was flying this person out
along with somebody that was Werner von Braun's right-hand assistant.
What?
Yeah.
These are weird statements to be making in this interview.
I couldn't find the official interview.
I could only find summaries of it.
And they all talk about these parts that came up.
He talked about mind control.
At the time, I didn't know it, but the person I was dealing with was being awoken
in the middle of the night with clicking and buzzing noises
and falling on the ground vomiting every morning at 4 a.m.
I know now that those are artifacts from mind control experiments
where the same technology that we use to find oil underground,
we can zap somebody at the same frequency that the brain operates on
and it can cause some really horrific things to happen.
He talks about how he thinks he's a bit of a molder from X-Files.
One time, I remember bringing up a very specific craft
that I believed we were building in a secret
to emulate the phenomenon that our government has been observing for decades.
So I started talking about the craft and its magnetic slide system,
how it displaces over 89% of the mass of the ship,
how it ionizes the engine, how it glows.
I went through the whole thing and this engineer looks at me.
This guy is 70 years old and he goes,
you better be real fucking careful about what you're talking about.
I go, okay, so I'm close.
And he goes, I'm not fucking around with you.
You better be really fucking careful.
And he calls me up the next day and he goes, I've had calls about you.
If someone comes and asks you to get in their car,
don't fucking get in the car.
And then he also talks about camping outside of Area 51.
When we went out there the first night,
we decided to run through this protocol where you project your thoughts.
So we decided to do it and we were up mad late, but nothing happened.
I kept telling the guys, if anything was going to happen,
it would happen at three in the morning
because that's the time when things like this happen.
Don't ask me why.
We put about four logs on the fire and everything is illuminated by the fire.
And we fall asleep around one or two.
I woke up right around 3 a.m.
My whole body felt like it had static electricity.
I opened my eyes and the fire is still going.
And there's a conversation going on outside the tent.
It sounded like there were about 20 people there talking.
And instantly my mind goes, OK, they're at our campsite.
They're not here to hurt us.
They're talking about shit, but I can't make out what they're saying.
But they're working on something.
Then I close my eyes and wake up and the fire is out.
And I have about three hours of lost time.
Huh.
Like it was a bizarre interview to say the least from what I'm gathering.
And right around this time, he decides he's going to start
a company called To The Stars Academy.
I generally call it To The Stars Academy.
The full name is To The Stars Academy of Art and Science, LLC.
With the mission being to be a powerful vehicle for change by creating a consortium
among science, aerospace and entertainment that will work collectively to allow gifted
researchers the freedom to explore exotic science and technologies with the infrastructure
and resources to rapidly transition them to products that can change the world.
The company was built based on the frustration of government secrecy
on the topics of space and the universe.
After this, in 2016, Tom released his first novel.
He did have a few other releases outside of this, but they're not really
necessary for the topic that we're talking about.
This novel is called Secret Machines and it's a series.
This first one is called Chasing Shadows.
It was written with the help of a man by the name of A.J. Hartley.
He's a New York Times bestselling author and an English professor outside of that.
So I'm guessing Tom just told him what he wanted the story to be about.
And this guy wrote the story.
Mm hmm.
I've read the book.
It's basically a Dan Brown story like The Da Vinci Code.
Oh, yeah.
But with aliens more or less, but not quite aliens.
Here's the synopsis of the book.
The witnesses are legions scattered across the world and dotted through history,
people who looked up and saw something impossible lighting up the night sky.
What those objects were, where they came from and who or what might be inside them is the subject
of fierce debate and equally fierce mockery so that most who glimpsed them came to wish they
hadn't. Most but not everyone.
Among those who know what they've seen and like the toll of a bell that can't be unrung
or forever changed by it are a pilot, an heiress, a journalist and a prisoner of war.
From the waning days of the 20th century's final great war to the fraught fields of
Afghanistan to the otherworldly secret hidden amid Nevada's dusty Netherlands.
The truth that is out there will propel each of them into a labyrinth of
otherworldly technology and the competing aims of those who might seek to prevent or harness
these beings from fathomable power. Because as it turns out, we are not the only ones who can
invent and build and destroy. Featuring actual events and other truths drawn from sources within
the military and intelligence community, Tom DeLong and A.J. Hartley offer a tale at once
terrifyingly fantastical and perhaps all too real. Though it is of course a work of fiction?
I would say most definitely.
I find that to be such an odd book, just like he's pulling from everything he knows,
but also just making up the story.
Secret machines also just so that we're all on the same page. Much like most things we talk about
on this podcast, it's spelt wrong. It's secret with a K where you would most expect it.
Just like sex magic.
Yeah. Basically, Tom really markets this as the hidden truths that he was able to uncover
through his vast studies and who he's talked to within the UFO and alien community. He was also
going to push this as it was going to be spun off as TV series, as movies and really make up
the multimedia side of To The Stars Academy.
And is this a work of fiction or nonfiction?
He expressly says it's a work of fiction, but it's based on his understanding of like what
information the U.S. has been able to uncover about aliens and UFOs. And you're going to see
what he's uncovered.
It's so bizarre to me. It's just like muddy water.
Oh, full of shit is what it is to me.
Yeah.
But then after this, a really weird thing happens. WikiLeaks gets a hold of a server of Hillary
Clinton's emails. Of course, PizzaGate happens, but that's not what we're talking about here.
What we're actually talking about is email correspondence between Tom DeLong and John
Nesta, who was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager. And they're full on talking about UFOs, Tom's
plans and people he's been talking to within the UFO community. I found a few just to give you an
example.
From what I recall, this actually helped his...
Credibility.
Credibility at the time, because until this he would just sounded a little bit crazy. And then
this happened and people were kind of like, oh.
Oh, you've actually been talking to high up people.
Yeah. You can actually tie him to one of these people that he's not disclosing any information
about.
Yeah. That happens. And there's so many emails. If you go on to go check it out, you can go on
WikiLeaks and just search Tom DeLong. You are going to find a trove of emails between him and
John Podesta. There's a couple that might be worth going over, but I think it's fine. Just go see
for yourself what's in there. After this, Tom's email is sent to the CIA.
After this, Tom starts going on a media circuit to remote to the Stars Academy and secret machines.
So he goes on the Joe Rogan podcast. And to sum it up best, I found two clippings of the show where
he's on there.
I'm not going to really get into that here. I can't say who they were, but I want to get into that
kind of stuff. If you don't mind, I just can't tell you who it's from. You know, I can't really
get into now because of the positions and the things I'm involved with.
Okay.
And a few other things that I want to get into. And I can't tell you some of the shit that I know
others. I can't tell you about it. Obviously that's the shit I can't tell you.
Damn. It was all this, I can't tell you stuff.
I know. I got into it when I was in junior high. I don't want to get into that, but I
won't tell you his name.
Well, I think we can find his name.
Maybe.
Michael Hayden, former director of NSA and the CIA.
No, that's not him. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you if you try and find out.
What can you guys just fishing around over here?
Interesting.
You said so much.
I know.
So weird what you can and can't say.
Well, I could tell you other shit offline probably.
Oh, okay. Offline. I can't wait to end this podcast.
All right. Are we off?
Yeah.
Are we off? Are we off?
He can't get into it. He can't tell you. Can't do it.
Like the fact they were able to do a minute long super cut of him saying,
I can't tell you that over the course of like an hour and a half episode of the Joe Rogan
experience.
That's kind of what he's known for doing.
Yeah. It gives you an idea of like what he brought to the table there.
And it was just a few crazy videos of UFOs that Joe Rogan's just like, that's not a UFO.
And then the rest of him asking questions. He's like, yeah, I can't tell you.
And Chelsea, if you just want to play the next one,
just because I just think it's a great little release after that one.
Know your place, motherfucker.
No.
So you literally could fly around and grab a Coke out of someone's hand and put it in
someone else's hand. It's really.
Where are you getting this from?
The little, the little aliens with the big black eyes.
I believe technology exists. God, I want to believe so hard.
I mean, I can believe in things. I can't prove a lot of things.
Do they have any pickled bodies anywhere?
I can't tell you.
You are fucking crazy when you start talking about this.
I'm going to show you my dick.
It changes shape. What I've noticed is it's just changing.
Yeah, it's getting larger, larger, getting wider, depending upon what you put in it.
It's not even that it's warping the space time continuum around tacos.
I think it was a good representation.
So, yeah, it was an awkward episode of Joe Rogan experience to say the least,
but something that came up in here, he starts talking about how we really got into this part
of to the UFO community. He says he first met with a government official.
When he had like what he was going to put into a book, he thought it would be important to run past
government offices because, you know, he, knowing so much about UFOs, figured out the answer to
what's going on, wrote it all down. And before he processed it and put it out to the public,
sent it to the government and said, like, hey, just so you know, I'm going to be publishing this.
What?
And the government came back and they set up a meeting between him and an unknown government
official that he wouldn't identify. We know who that public official is because he sent an email
to John Podesta with the subject line General McCasland. And in that email, it says he mentioned
he's a skeptic. He's not. I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him
a four hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago. So I'm pretty sure it's General
McCasland. Sorry, I might've just gotten him killed for that. I don't know. If you're just putting it
together now, then I'm sorry, but thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe.
We did that.
This unknown government official that he's talking to says it was the Cold War and everything we did
at the time was to avoid nuclear war. And that's when we discovered aliens. And they go on to have
an hour long conversation that Tom describes as life-changing, but can't get into the details or
who this was. But, you know, again, it was probably General McCasland. And if you have
listened to that last little bit, it becomes clear. He says, I can't tell you much more, a lot.
Unless you're off error in an email, then he will subject the email with the name of said person.
Exactly. Anyhow, like this real weird, pretty much train wreck of a Joe Rogan podcast doesn't stop
to the Stars Academy. And in 2017, a website by the name of Open Minds TV gave Tom DeLong the
honor of being the 2017 International UFO Congress UFO Researcher of the Year. While he wasn't there
to personally accept his award, he delivered an acceptance speech on video mentioning that his
work isn't done. And I want you as an educated group of people to read between the lines and
look at the history of what I've been doing over the past couple of years and get a sense for what
the hell I'm getting ready to do. If you guys come along for the ride, it's going to be pretty
fantastic. At that point, no one really knows what exactly he has been doing. Nobody exactly
knows what he has been doing or who Open Minds.tv is. At least I don't. I didn't end up looking into
who else they've named the UFO Researcher of the Year. Maybe that was the one and only time.
But I saw this highlighted a couple of places, so I guess it needs to be brought up. Okay, fair enough.
Okay, now we're going to get into some things about To the Stars Academy. So it's a Delaware
company and they have a very unique corporate structure in Delaware that's known as a public
benefit corporation. That means that the companies are eligible to crowdfund. Instead of going on a
stock market, you can crowdfund up to $50 million from individuals within the United States. And
this is the path that To the Stars Academy has chosen to do for collecting money. I will tell you,
it is not the most common way to incorporate a company or to look for investors, but this is
the way they have chosen. It also means that they have different disclosure responsibilities as a
company compared to an IPO as a regular corporation trying to be publicly traded. That might be going
over your head right now, but if you looked on the To the Stars Academy website, you'll notice
that you can invest right there on the website. If you are on the To the Stars Academy website,
tothestars.media, in the top right, there's a little button that is invest and you'll have
several options for investing in this company. You can invest $5 a share and I believe you can
invest up to $200. It might've changed since they originally went into crowdfunding, but that was
originally what you were capped at. They have a little bit of information on their website,
but it's a unique way to invest and it's a very new way to invest. Not a lot of people know much
about it outside of select techie bros. Anyways, they do still have some disclosure requirements
as a public benefit corporation. I found a few select things that we need to talk about within
this disclosure document that aren't great. So let's just get into it. It's going to be contractual
wording, Chelsea. Might be a little heavy, but if you have any questions, let me know as we go along.
Okay. Starting right off the bat, Tom DeLong, Mr. Handsome LLC and Good in Bed Music have licensed
intellectual property rights to To the Stars Academy for five years under a verbal license
and currently under a licensing agreement dated April 26th, 2017. The rights include name and
likeness, rights of publicity for Mr. DeLong, trademarks, copyrights, domains, names, social
media handles, master recordings and musical compositions. We as the company To the Stars
Academy are required to pay Mr. DeLong royalties on gross sales ranging from 0.5 to 15% depending on
the product category. Mr. DeLong has the right to approve any royalty granted to a third party in
connection with the licensed product. If total royalty payments to Mr. DeLong and his parties
in any given calendar year fail to meet $100,000, we have agreed to pay any shortfalls such as the
annual minimum royalty paid to Mr. DeLong's parties will be $100,000. Licensing agreement allows Mr.
DeLong to elect to invest any royalty payment due to him for the development of licensed products
beyond what is commercially practical to To the Stars Academy and regroup the investment.
So he owns the rights to all his music, all the books he's written, anything else that he's
contracting out. They have to pay X% directly to him from any sale. It doesn't just go into the
company. He gets money paid out outside of the company and everything that he's come up with on
top of that. And if they're not having great sales, he'll still get $100,000 every year no matter what.
Next line, during 2018, the company entered into a revolving line of credit agreement
with Tom DeLong, the beneficial owner of its majority shareholder evidenced by a security
promissory note. From the company to Mr. DeLong maturing on December 31st, 2019, the line of credit
allows the company to borrow funds up to a total amount of $495,000 on a revolving basis and bears
interest at 8.58% annual. The notes require minimum monthly payments of principal and interest and is
secured by certain intellectual property rights of the company. The company has been utilizing
the line of credit as a source of additional operating funds for working capital needs and
plans to continue doing so during 2019. As of December 31st, 2018, the company had outstanding
borrowing and accrued interest owing under the line of credit in the amount of $335,000 and $4,240
respect. So he's been lending the company money and getting back a fairly good return on investment
at 8.5%, which I don't know, Chelsea, do you have a savings account at the bank?
Yes.
Do you get 8.5%?
No, not even close.
That's a pretty damn good promissory note right there.
It really is.
Tom DeLong is also the founder and interim CEO of the company. He's also the president
of the company, Subsiriye, to the stars Inc. His award-winning entertainment career spans over two
decades with music sales over 25 million records worldwide in the band co-founded by 22 and angels
and airwaves. Since 2011 at to the stars Inc. Mr. DeLong has co-authored and published multiple
chart-topping books written and directed both live action and animated films, as well as created
various multimedia franchises that have expanded into successful merchandise brands. Prior to
forming the company, Mr. DeLong co-founded really likable people Inc. parent company of multiple
international consumer lifestyle brands and the technology platform ModLife Inc. which formed in
2007 and empowered artists with digital content monetization tools. Mr. DeLong has been recognized
for his creative endeavors across music books and films, including the awards for best video,
animated short films, best fiction, 2017 UFO researcher award. And sorry, I should have said
beforehand, I will right now. They do give a little description of why they've named Tom DeLong as CEO.
They also had a very interesting, can I find it really quick? I thought I put this in here
and I closed that webpage. Damn it. Under recently closed tabs. No, I have too many from,
I've just closed so many. Sorry, I did close this tab, but I in that same release, Tom's sister also
has an option to buy up to 6 million shares at one third of a cent per share. I believe she's
involved in the company somehow as well. Yeah, she is. We as the public can buy them at $5 per
share. She can buy that one third of a cent per share. That's a nice dispute. I will correct if
I'm wrong, but it was ridiculous. It was for like 6 million stocks. So there's some sketchy things
in there. He's making money off of the royalties that he's selling to the Stars Academy. He is
making money off of loaning this company money and he is by far the majority shareholder of this
company. And he's also asking just the public at large without the normal IPO, initial public
offering occurring on this open stock market to invest in this company with a less than stellar
document to show what this company is up to and its financial endeavors. Do you know the reason why
he would choose to do that over being publicly traded? He said it was because he wanted a more
democratic company or to be at least less structured in the way that corporations normally are. My guess
is it has less disclosure issues. There would have been a reason for sure that he chose to do it that
way versus... And especially this allows him to sell it on his website that you can invest in the
company. Whereas other ways you have to invest on it through a stock exchange, which is why it's
right up on there. By the way, I don't know the legality of it in Delaware law, but this is something
that you can do in BC as well. The website will be front funder, F R O N T F U N D R. You can invest,
I think up to $200 in any company in BC that's up on that website. It always seems like a fairly bad
investment in my mind though. And generally the companies that go up on those websites don't want
to give you any control. So you're just putting that money in and hoping it goes well. Yeah.
From what I end, it's mostly a lot of startup companies just like to the stars is pretty much.
Yeah, exactly. But you have less power because you're not an angel investor putting in huge
amounts of monies dictating the terms. They dictate how much you can invest into it, right?
And the price. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, it changes from province and state to province to state.
If you're looking at crowdfunding securities, please look at your local securities laws.
Doesn't look great, at least from reading that document. There's a few other things,
but I'm not going to get into them at this point, but eventually to the stars starts to pay off in
weird ways. So in October of 2019 to the stars Academy leaks out to the public, a Navy video of
an unidentified aerial phenomenon as they call it in colloquial speech within the government.
And then in 2020 Navy also publishes three of the longs UFO videos. This is front and center
in like late 2020, 2021. They're all the talk. Like the Nimitz video is probably the most talked
about UFO video of the past decade. Like I don't think it's a stretch to say that. Yeah. And that
comes right from to the stars Academy outside of that to the stars does have a YouTube channel,
but they don't use it at all. It appears because it's old as videos, four years old, there's 10
videos and they haven't posted in two years. So, and they're all very short, so they don't really
use it. But this company is set up to as a ton of podcasts. It's meant to create TV series, movies,
comics, podcasts, books, and other likenesses on the UFO phenomenon. What have they been up to
recently? Well, he didn't actually put a date on it, but it's one of the newest articles on to the
stars Academy's website. And I saw it posted on Reddit on, um, that was submitted 10 days ago. So
it was in August and Tom had this to say, I was up late last night researching a subject. I've been
obsessed with for about 12 months. Now, if I were to just tell you what it is, you would laugh out
loud. You would never guess that there is potentially more evidence for this one phenomenon than there
is for UFOs at this point. Hopefully I approved to many of you that I may sound crazy, but I do know
what I'm talking about when it comes to some of life's greatest parties. I am passionate that they
should be taken more seriously, both academically and in the court of public opinion. I am no
stranger to being laughed at for my ideas and passions. Blink 182 wasn't taken seriously in
the beginning, but is now considered one of the most influential rock bands of all time. The public
also skewered me for wanting to research UFOs with serious rigor and respect. Now I am invited to
speak in places like the FBI's behavioral analysis unit, but how I was able to conquer the stigma and
bring prestigious people together to change the world's perspective of what unidentified aerial
phenomena are or could be. But my curiosity does not stop there. It is even more insatiable now
that I have a greater belief that these things are real. I am electrified with a nuclear lightning
bolt to bring them to the forefront of pop culture. Back to my newest obsession, a mirage like black
in shadow that peers into your window at night. An apparition appearing in historical legends written
over thousands of years on every continent. Native American records about people snatching
and cannibalism. The smells of rotting flesh, it can disappear at will or become completely physical.
Disturbing to say the least, the US government has researched this phenomenon and there is potential
genetic evidence that scientists are finding difficult to decode. There are many firsthand
reports of this paranormal mystery continually popping up all over the world. There are thermal,
infrared and radio frequency recordings with multiple PhD academics trying to understand
its motivations, whereabouts and genesis. To the Stars has hired a great screenwriter who's
developing a feature film script about this very topic called the Wild Men. But you may know this
mystery by another name, Bigfoot. I'm so excited about it. Help me create an entertaining story to
show what this thing is, what it is doing and what it means to our understanding of who we are and
what we are. Signed off Tom. So apparently his next thing's going to be Bigfoot. Interesting. I
wonder what work of fiction he's going to put out in regards to it. Also, did he say the government
has done studies into Bigfoot? Yes. Didn't know that. I have not seen specific studies about Bigfoot
put on by the US government. I am excited to see what he actually drops because every now and then
what he says actually pays dividends. Really? Well, the Nimitz video is one of the things I'm talking
about. Okay. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Like he seems crazy and like some of the things are
set up very sketchily, but every now and then it pays out. True. True. We, he has proved that he
does pay out sometimes. Yeah. And then like just recently he was Steve-O. Do you know from Jackass?
Yeah, of course. Yeah. He has a podcast and Tom DeLonge was just on there. Oh geez. Yeah. And you
know, if you want somebody to critically analyze your views, like Steve-O is the guy. Also, I'm
sorry to say it, but Steve-O just doesn't have the voice for radio. Great guy. Raspiest fuck voice.
What a great story that was. It's hard to listen, but like they touched on like so many like
absolutely ridiculous UFO topics. He talks about how they're all just time travelers from the future.
Talks about Fatima and then moves on to... DeLonge? Fetima. Fetima, Fetima. Yeah. And then moves on to
project Serpo and then talks about how... No. Serpo. Yeah. And then moves on to how he was just
meeting with the Italian government about UFOs they saw over the Mediterranean that shot down
one of their helicopters and that he was in the room talking to the pilot and co-pilot of the
helicopter that was shot down by a UFO. With the government of Italy. Yeah. Yeah. And he says that
all in the same sentence of Serpo. It was within the same three minute period. Like yeah. And then
Steve-O cuts to a Viagra commercial. Nice. But chewable Viagra because apparently that was a problem.
Well, it is for the oldies. And apparently the raspy devoiced. But yeah, bet you didn't think
that an episode on Blink-182 would end with credible information coming out about UFOs.
Unless you did the research for this episode in which it became very clear that it would.
And there is only a couple of places when you're like, okay, he was right. And he did do that.
But it's also meant with a lot of yike. He did that. To give Joe Rogan full credit, when he is on
and actually wants to critically analyze something. Boy, howdy. Did he absolutely make Tom look like
an idiot on that podcast? Because he can't say anything. He just asked a follow-up question.
Can't say anything. Doesn't always do it. And I hate him for it. But when he's on, he is on like
that episode. But if he can't say anything, he shouldn't even be out in the pub. Like he's the
base of the brand though. So he has to, but at the same time, he can't say anything and he looks
like a dumbass. Yeah. No, and it's hilarious because he's like, he said the government wanted him to
do this because they can't do it personally, because they don't have the avenues to media
like he does. And they're like, okay, what can you say? Oh, I can't say it. Yeah. Like it makes the
fucking. Like, and then he just. He shouldn't have been doing it. Like literally, if you haven't seen
it, let me just take a quick look here. It is episode. Then it's also so weird because you
can't say anything. It's episode 1029 of the Joe Rogan experience. And it ends with Tom like
going on YouTube and just showing him YouTube videos of UFOs and Rogan being like, is this guy
for real? Like these are all so fake. But it's so weird because he says he can't say anything,
but then he writes a bunch of like fiction books and it's so weird. It almost feels like,
do you know how like the stories of vampires and demons are they like can't come into your house
or they can't specifically say things that they have to allude to it in really weird ways.
So like need an invitation in your house. I'm not saying Tom DeLong is a vampire demon that
needs to be invited into the White House or something, but hey, he's when the shoe fits.
Yeah, true. Okay. We figured it out. We figured Tom DeLong. But anyhow, that's been Tom DeLong.
I know you guys were all curious what he's been up to that that there you go. And in the next
episode, we're going to be talking about To The Stars Academy and what it's about what it's done,
where it's gone and where it is now. And maybe where it's going. I don't know. Chelsea did that
episode. So I'm staying over that. Anyhow, thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.
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