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This might be a good one to start with, just to give an update on the whole drama that is

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Julian Assange going on. Right, I did hear something recently, but I didn't listen because I had

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someone in the back talking. Yeah, well, it basically came out last Friday, which would be

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June 19th, I believe. British government on Friday, June 19th, ordered the extradition of

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the United States to face charges of spying a milestone,

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but not the end of a decade-long legal saga sparked by his website's publication of classified

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U.S. documents. If you're not aware of who Julian Assange is at this point, I don't think there's

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much point in bringing you up to date. To be perfectly blunt about it, he was the WikiLeaks guy.

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Yeah, that's good enough. Home Secretary Priti Patel signed the extradition order on Friday,

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her department said. It follows a British court ruling in April that Assange could be sent to the

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U.S. The Home Office said in a statement that the U.K. courts have not found that it would be

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oppressive, unjust, or an abuse of process to extradite Mr. Assange. Nor have they found that

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the extradition would be incompatible with his human rights, including his right to a fair trial

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and to freedom of expression, and that whilst in the U.S. he will be treated appropriately,

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including in relation to his health. Obviously, he has some time, I believe it's 14 days,

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to appeal this decision. So he's going to do that. That's where we're at with this, but he's very

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close to being extradited to the U.S. But while I was learning about this, I found another article.

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That one right there just came from CBC. It was the quickest one to give you an update on kind of

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like the main part of it. This article, it's from The Telegraph in the U.K., originally kind of

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researched by Yahoo. Did the U.S. plot to assassinate Julian Assange? A judge wants answers from Mike

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Pompeo. Mike Pompeo has been summoned by a Spanish court to testify over claims the U.S. plotted to

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assassinate Julian Assange. Judge Santiago Pedras of Spain's national court is leading an investigation

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into whether Spanish security firm UC Global spied on Mr. Assange while providing security for the

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Ecuadorian embassy in London, where the Australian resided from 2012 to 2019. A spokesman for Spain's

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national court told The Telegraph that Judge Pedras had sent a request to the U.S. authorities

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to call the former U.S. Secretary of State as a witness. There has been no reply as of yet.

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The alleged plot was first revealed by Yahoo News last November and the outlet reported that senior

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CIA and Trump administration officials discussed the possibility of kidnapping or killing Mr.

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Assange after being angered by WikiLeaks 2017 publication of CIA hacking tools. Discussions

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took place at the highest levels of the Trump administration according to the report. Basically,

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the only reason this is going through the Spanish courts is because it was security firms that were

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being paid by the U.S. to spy on and potentially murder or kidnap Assange. That was going to be

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my question. So you answered all my questions. Okay. Lawyers are presenting Mr. Assange in Spain,

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including the former judge Balestar Garzon. Alleged that, wow, I did the French version of that.

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Garzon. No, that's the Italian. How would you do the Spanish? Garzon. That sounds too French.

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Anyhow, Mr. Balestar alleges that the U.S. orchestrated the espionage effort against the

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activist with UC Global placing microphones and cameras in the embassy to spy on his private

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conversations and meetings. I found that very interesting. I'm curious to see what comes to

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that. Probably nothing because that requires international coordination and the U.S. to agree,

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which they won't. They won't, no. But yeah, we'll see where that goes and we'll keep you guys updated

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as we always say we will on the Julian Assange fiasco. And as we have, we've not let that down

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at all. So go back and sporadically listen to our openers and you'll find stuff. You know where it

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is. It's somewhere in there. At least three times. If you only found two, go listen again.

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It's probably on Dinosaur Ghost, just saying. And if you don't hear it the first time through

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on Dinosaur Ghost, try a third or fourth time perhaps. And tell a friend. It's probably there.

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It's a good episode. And with that, let's get on to this Dinosaur Ghost episode. Just kidding.

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Previously on Journey to the Fringe. But Chelsea, this is the moment you've been waiting for right

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here. Oh good. Oh, what is it? Now for the stunning conclusion of David Wilcox part two.

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Larry Sayers shows up. A nine-time Grammy award-winning recording engineer, guitarist,

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and composer. And he heard David on Art Bell and booked a reading for the next available slot,

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which wasn't until January of 2005. I'd love that he had to put that in there. By the way,

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I was back booked for several months. And I couldn't even take in this Grammy award winner.

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In the phone call, he told David he really wanted to work on a music project with him. A week later,

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David flew out to Electric Larry Land Studios in Austin, Texas. And together they created the

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content and musical soundtrack for a three CD series based on convergence material entitled

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The Science of Peace. Oh my God. This is the one I tried to find it on Spotify. It doesn't exist,

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which is just so sad. I'm not paying 60 bucks for that bumper music though. Sorry guys. It is? No,

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no, we're not doing it. Not worth it. Like 20 bucks we might. But it's 60 now. No, 20 bucks. No.

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Unless if that's what you guys want, like let us know and start donating because we will get it.

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Who will start a GoFundMe? If you guys can get to 50 bucks, we'll get the next 10.

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The CD series is intended for study groups. Hold on, it's on YouTube. It's removed. Also,

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if you guys are ever trying to find David Wilcox Band, there is another artist by the name of

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David Wilcox with an X at the end of his name. He's in a fairly famous band. I can't remember

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which one though. So it's really hard to find his band or any talk of his band because that

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David Wilcox comes up. The CD series is intended for study groups. This musical exploration of

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convergence. Just so we're on the same page. One disc per meeting and the major points are reiterated

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on each new disc as it goes along, making it easier to retain all the information. The music

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ranges from ambient electronica to jazz fusion and many points in between. It is yet to be

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publicly released due to information conflicts with the convergence failed, but we should be

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out by the spring of 2007. I don't understand what he thinks a biography is. David first met

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Billy Blake in February of 2005 after a conference at a Science of Mind Center in Pasadena on Valentine's

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Day. The context David made at Hoagland's conference, particularly through Robert Pirella,

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led to this opportunity. Billy was awed by David's presentation and said that if it were turned into

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a film, it would be incredible. Thus the convergence and convergence is in all caps. So you have to

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yell it, I guess. You have to yell it. Convergence! The realization of gold medal prophecy. David spent

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most of 2005 combing through his entire nine-foot archive of science books. Oh, nine feet. To come

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up with the new arrangement of material to better present his concepts in a documentary. He stopped

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taking clients for readings in August of 2005 to devote his full energy to the film and he came up

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with a trilogy of new material, none of which is really covered in the convergence, sorry, convergence

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books, but helps further explain the underlying concepts. A full book explaining the new material

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will be released in conjunction with each new film. Bruce fully moved into the Avalon utility

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shed in October of 2005. Oh no. Since David was preparing to move to LA for the film, they just

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walked spots. Oh my lord. A variety of delays and negative greetings made it financially impractical

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for David to move until February 2006. Avalon was shut down soon after Bruce moved out of David's

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house due to lack of funding and Bruce moved back out west as of July 2006. No further volunteers

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for LL or Avalon are being accepted as of August 2006. Still unsure of who that is. Leaving the core

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team of Carla, Jim, and Gary at the main site for Carla, Jim, and Gary. I'm very convinced as to who

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these people are. David now lives directly off of Montana Avenue in Santa Monica, California.

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Great location for Hollywood work. Great. And it fully supported his job as producer and creative

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director of Convergence. Fantastic. The decision was made in 2006 to leave the documentary film

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for the special feature section of the DVD and have the main film be a dramatic adaptation of

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the material. None of the three films discuss any potential connections between David Wilcock and

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Edward Casey. They all focus on hard-provable scientific facts that dramatically change our

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view of reality. David will star in the documentary but any characters resembling himself will be

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played by a recognized professional actor in the theatrical version. What the fuck? Yeah.

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This happened? I have no idea. There's so fucking much about this guy that like you can only do so

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much. Convergence. Is there an exclamation mark? No, just capitalize all of it. Convergence. Nothing

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about the basement he was renovating. Nothing at all. No. Okay. That's fine. I can't find anything

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immediately off of that quick Google that I did so I'm done with it so we can move on. David co-authored

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a potential Convergence script between January and May 2006 that did not fit Hollywood quality

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standards enough to attract larger investors. Again, he wrote it that way. Jesus. He wrote it in a way

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that he fooled me. I thought he had this. Yeah. Yeah. This is incredible writing. Still feeling

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too much like a documentary in disguise. So the whole project was handed over to a professional

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screenwriter in early June 2006 and the new first draft is expected to be completed by the end of

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September 2006 or earlier. We're all very excited about what the finished product will look like

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and the effects it will have on mass consciousness. The concepts are so revolutionary that even the

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most well-read metaphysical scholar will likely be surprised and entertained. It is also not written

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over the average viewer's head because of the brackets. David continues to perform psychic

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readings on the world events and personal growth issues and his work can be found throughout this

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site and in our works including music only projects. Good for him. Doesn't look like he ever made that movie.

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Okay. Wilcock finally finishes this novel of a biography off with quotes on reincarnation

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throughout the years to buttress his argument that he is in fact Edgar Cayce. Here we go.

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And finally of all things he starts with a Plato quote. The soul returns to earth in a body similar

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to its last one and has similar talents and inclinations. You know I wouldn't even start

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with that if that were me and it's gonna be yes. I lost my turn of thought. Continue. Here next is a

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quote from Thinking in Destiny HW Percival. Pictures of the average person taking a

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corresponding periods of two or even several lives would show little difference. The physical

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parents may or may not be the same but the features furnished by heredity no matter from

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what parents are the same for a string of lives with the ordinary person. And here the last one

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of course from Edgar Cayce himself in a search for God with of course shortenings throughout.

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The senses are registered in our physical bodies in such a way that they are stamped upon our very

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faces. These senses seek expression of the inner self of which our physical bodies are material

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representations for not only do the impressions received through the senses show forth that which

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is magnified in a single appearance or experience but the whole impressions that have been received

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through all of our experiences the registering being in our souls. I have no idea how that

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fucking applies to the situation at all but that's what they said. It's an Edgar Cayce quote so.

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I'm like a hundred percent certain at this point that I can prove to everybody that I am the

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reincarnation of Edgar Cayce and not only that these people giving these quotes are like

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hereditary that's not even a thing when we're talking about what is it again reincarnation.

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No that quote said it is heredity is a thing. It's not. When it comes to reincarnation.

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Plato said it it has to be true. And you know what like we went to school we know like confirmation

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bias and stuff like this. This isn't even confirmation bias this is just somebody making

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shit up and it's not even plain to his point. He's just like randomly throw shit in. To be fair

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David Wilcock didn't want to do this. Edgar Cayce made him do it begrudgingly. You bring up a really

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good point. Edgar Cayce was like I'm not going to do it in this life but Edgar Cayce is going to do

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it in the next life but David Wilcock is going to be in the next life but jokes on him because it's

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actually me and now I'm going to just prove to you guys that it's me not David Wilcock. I could do it

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like I could give that crazy like 1900s look that weird 1900s look and on a top. Honestly just find

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a different photo of Edgar Cayce. Yeah. It's a terrible photo they found and he tried to match

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it to a tee. Oh you could do that with literally anybody especially with the photo from the 1900s.

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talk to you about. Edgar Cayce it's going to be one of the first ones that comes up. No that's

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videos. Got it. Okay look at look at the picture of David Wilcock. He fucking took the entirety of

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the background and his body out of the photo and he drew in lines for his shoulders. I am just

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noticing this for the first time. Oh my god he did. Oh my gosh. I think he also accentuated the

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thing on his chin. The chin dimple. This is heavily photoshopped. Wow. Like look at how little his

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ears are compared to Edgar Cayce. His eyebrows aren't the same. Yeah his nose is significantly

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different. The lips are different. Edgar Cayce's nose is pointing up. David Wilcox is down. His

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chin's different. Edgar Cayce has a much wider jaw line. Edgar Cayce is wearing a hat. David

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Wilcox is not. Why wouldn't he just put the hat on? It sells it so much more. Like this is not,

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no it's not even similar. When you actually at first look when you look at it he changed the

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color. He drew his shoulder in. He literally took it with the same expression on his face but I can

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do this. I can do this. I'm Edgar Cayce. I swear I can do it. Well to be fair but that's the only

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reason you can do it is because you are Edgar Cayce. Yeah. Nobody else could really do it. Yeah I

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look as much like Edgar Cayce as David Wilcox does. So that's his biography on his website that is

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still up and it is about 15 years out of date at this point. Wow that is some good content. Thank

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you. Personally from Journey to the Prince to you David Wilcox we love your biography. That thing

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that you didn't know you needed in your life and that you now know I needed alcohol to get through

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is now forever ingrained in your brain. You are welcome. That was really good. I appreciated that.

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I you know I never got so far as his photo where he put fat photo of him. I love that he put the

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fat photo. Yeah not sure where he's going with that but. And then he put his little quote about

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his award that he got for not being fat anymore. Yeah. I am so sorry but like I am not trying to

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fat shame. I am trying to David Wilcox shame. There is a significant difference. No we're not doing that at all.

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And I just feel for anyone who's ever written a resume we've all done better than that biography

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that is still currently up on David Wilcox's website. I do fully understand why he has to do what he does

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it's because he can't get a regular job with that resume. Not with that resume no and that's fixable.

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So that's not the only thing on Divines Cosmos. Divine Cosmos also has a lot of his free books

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which convergence is three of them. There's a ton on there. Is that a script or a book? There are three books.

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I didn't bother to read them just because I didn't have time and like there's so he wrote so fucking

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much. We've realized in all of this that he has enough time to put out a shit ton of content.

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All of which obviously we cannot get to as an asterisk right here right now. We cannot possibly

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take in all the David Wilcox content because we personally probably we stopped caring after a

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certain amount of time and we realized that this guy is out to fucking lunch. But convergence right?

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Convergence. Convergence. By all reports of him. Is it a script or is it a book or what is it? It was three

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books which somebody in Hollywood read and loved and like oh yeah we should totally make it into a

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movie and then he read it though did he say yeah he did I can't remember it's the guy who moved

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into the shed and then the shed shut down. Okay the shed shut down okay okay okay cool. So you can still go check out

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Divine Cosmos today it is still up and running in its glory 2006 days. On there also he has his bio

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he has the home he has the free books he has the store if you want to buy meditations from him

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for a minute and a half. Okay I don't I don't feel like we want to plug that but you do you. Yeah I

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think the money's better spent getting us those CDs. Yeah. Personally but he also has his blog and my

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god there is so much in this fucking blog it is how many pages are there there are 24 pages dating

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back to 96 so he did move over some of what he considered his better ascension 2000.com stuff

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to Divine Cosmos and even he moved some stuff over that he doesn't necessarily think is right

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but he wants to show that he's not perfect. So he has his one with a specific quote in there and this

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is exactly what he put. This was one of the very first posts I ever made on ascension 2000.com

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website after establishing it in February of 99 including content I had already written starting

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in 98. It is included for historical purposes. At the time I was listening to a lot of Art Ballon

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got caught up by the fervor of the idea that either a pole shift or y2k computer collapse was imminent.

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I mean who didn't? People on these types of shows believe the idea so strongly that it had quite an

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effect on my own thoughts causing me to interrupt my data selectively so as to support the concept.

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This is partly included as a warning to everyone about what can happen when you get too caught up

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in the fear and doom climate on the internet which will always tell you that disaster is right around

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the corner. Thankfully I grew out of this phase fairly quickly. Thank god David Wilcock. Yeah of

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course he did. We'll see in the next episode that he completely grew out of it with ascension 2000.com

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like he left that behind even though he copied and pasted it onto divine cosmos. I just this guy

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every now and then verbally states like his understanding that he doesn't understand

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and then just keeps going like he just said yeah I got caught up in it and it happens and like he

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fully understands what happened and like just immediately gets caught by the exact same thing.

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He does and I'm just gonna state right here because I'm thinking about it and we're on topic.

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I was also watching an interview with him and someone else on Jenny McCarthy and he kept saying

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in everything that he was talking about was from my understanding this is this from my understanding

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this is this so he came into a little bit of enlightenment where he started saying this is

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my understanding. Well this is where I'm going to talk about this. This guy has done none of his own

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studies. The guy has briefly read Russian studies. No he has read paragraphs of the synopsis of Russian

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studies. He has not read the studies like he understands a paragraph of these and we're going

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to get into this of how wrong he is and how he applies science pre our changeover. So that is all

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that like I don't know what just happened but it happened to us. I'm not really sure what happened

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either like that was just a blur. We are kind of sort of better for having heard that. I'm not

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sure it may have taken away from my life span by a few years to be honest with you. Yeah. We're here

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it is what it is. Where I want to go with this now is I did find out Coast to Coast AM on their

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website has a biography of all the people that they bring on their show. Yeah so I thought ha

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let's compare David Wilcox personal biography to what Coast to Coast has to say about him. This is

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a good idea. I'm glad you came up with that. Thank you and this is it. You have a doctorate in

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something that's for sure. In conciseness yes or comparison comparison studies. This is what Coast

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to Coast says David Wilcox is a professional intuitive consultant who since reading Richard

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C. Hogan's The Monuments of Mars in 93 has intensively researched ufology ancient civilizations

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consciousness science and new paradigms of matter and energy. He's the author of a critically

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acclaimed trilogy of scientific research works known as convergence series which gives definitive

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support to the idea that a change in matter energy and consciousness is now occurring on the earth

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and throughout the solar system. Wilcox has appeared on broadcast television lectured throughout

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the United States and Japan published a variety of magazine articles and appeared on numerous

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radio talk shows. He is the co-author of the book The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce which they didn't

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put the question mark on there now available in bookstores nationwide and a summary of his latest

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scientific work appears therein where a breakthrough case of mass spontaneous DNA evolution on earth is

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unveiled. David is also an accomplished musician and composer within a variety of styles including

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jazz fusion meditative and world music. There's so much to unpack in that first off he cannot stop

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talking about his band cue the part where I include the band's talk. In my lecture tours you also get

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to hear music from the album Wanderer Awakening. This is another product that's available on my

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website and you actually get to see me perform these songs live in front of an audience when I

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do these conferences. So what I've done is to take many of the themes that you hear in pop music

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about how much in love someone is or about how sad and devastated someone is and I shed new light on

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what those themes really involve. And obviously a lot more influence from Richard C. Hoagland than

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is actually given in his own bio. And I think here is where I can actually now say what he's really

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famous for within the UFO community and that is for his prediction that humans are going to

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spontaneously evolve into beings of deity like qualities. They're able to fly, they're able to

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spontaneously heal themselves and they are able to control the passage of time forward and back.

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And this is after the ascension right? The ascension. It predicts an ascension.

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Which he has predicted to occur in both the year 2000 and the year 2012. And in fact

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my portion of the story, we're going to leave it as a clip hanger, ends on December 21, 2012.

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The day of ascension. But we're not quite there yet. Oh I was just going to say that was the

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perfect way to end the episode like bam. No it will be but yeah. Okay we're back. But that's his

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big claim and he backs his claims up with many scientific studies which I just need to clear up

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because if it's out there with how terrible he's describing them, it can't be. Like it just can't.

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So the first one, it's the weirdest thing I have seen somebody say. A laser shine through a frog

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egg into a salamander egg can transform the DNA of the salamander in the egg so that a frog is

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born. I remember him talking about this in one of the interviews. Maybe it was the Project Camelot

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one. Actually it was one of the first. He says it a lot and then he extended it too and he said the

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same thing can be done with chickens and ducks. So you end up with a chicken duck. The salamander's

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egg can be shined through with a laser and redirected into a frog's egg and the frog's egg

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then completely metamorphosizes into a salamander. I showed you chicken eggs that were hatched after

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being zapped with energy from a duck and they came out as half duck half chicken. And I was like

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what the fuck are you talking about David Wilcock? I found some posts alluding to it. You cannot find

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the study he's referencing anywhere on the internet. Like anywhere. If you're looking on Google

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Scholar or anything, it's not there. But I did find it was on, Above Top Secret I believe was the

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website this was on. Oh god. And it was posted by King Atlas in September 12 2009. I haven't

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posted in a while but I recently found this information. It's not brand new but I couldn't

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really find anything about it on here. So quote, Russian scientist immediately attracting David

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Wilcock with the word Russian. Dr. Peter Garriott discovered that DNA absorbed light photons in its

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surrounding area and causes the photons to spiral through the molecule itself. This spiraling effect

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will continue in the same spot for up to 30 days after the DNA is physically removed from that spot.

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And this effect is called the DNA phantom. Bariev also shined a gentle laser beam through a developing

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salamander embryo and redirected it into a developing frog embryo. This caused the frog embryo's

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DNA to completely recode itself with the instructions to build a healthy adult salamander.

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to pass through. Hmm I wonder what else this could do. That's all he quoted and everybody after that

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was shitting on him saying dude like this is nowhere nobody can find this. He probably was

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quoted as saying oh but all the haters are gonna say this on the internet. He's famous for going

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after the people who say anything otherwise on him. And then I found like a fairly well reasoned

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out not scientific paper but somebody like in this kind of region of science near David Wilcock

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wrote this. I get lots of suggestions for stories and I really appreciate them but some of them are

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too good to be true. An example of this is a story of a giant human skeleton maybe 40 feet tall that

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was discovered by a Russian archaeological team. The story had photos and links accompanying it

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and looked promising but when the links were researched they went in a circle. Each link used

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the other link as the source. Finally the elements of the photos turned up and we recognized a good

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photoshopped job had fooled everyone. I had the same experience this week when I was sent an

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article about a Russian again scientist Pyotr Garyev had managed to intercept communications

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from a DNA molecule in the form of ultraviolet photon light. What's more he claimed that to have

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captured this communication from one organism a frog embryo with a laser beam and then transmitted

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to another organism's DNA a salamander imp causing the latter embryo to develop into a frog. But this

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was just the beginning. Dr. Garyev claims that this communication is not something that happens

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only inside the individual cells or between one cell and another. He claims organisms use the light

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and talk to other organisms that suggested that this could explain telepathy and ESP. It was like

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human beings already had their own wireless internet based on our DNA. Wow I tried to find

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a scientific journal that had this experiment all I could find were blogs and other websites that

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carried the same story word for word without any references. So yeah nobody can find this article

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that he claims proves that DNA can be I don't even know transferred through light and this is the

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weird thing like he's saying that this change in human evolution is going to be caused by torsion

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energy coming from the middle of the galaxy. It is so fucking stupid and I can't even get into how

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many ways it's stupid that we just have to focus on other things. Well not even that. It is so

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fucking stupid. If it's so hard to find you would think he would directly source the material which

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you should be if you're using not your own research. He doesn't speak Russian. Yeah but if you're not

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using your own research you should be sourcing the material of which you get something but he's not

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and it's leaving everybody to research like search for it and nobody's coming up with anything.

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Therefore he's making up his research. No he's doing lazy research and I get it when you're

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writing as much as him how can you actually have time to do research I get it but don't fucking

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lie. He has such a huge following that doesn't give a shit. Okay next claim that he makes is

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supported by evidence scientific evidence. Galactic energy is causing evolution to speed up and he

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uses a BBC article that is called human evolution is speeding up. It's by Anna Marie Lever and came

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out in 2006. We can look and see that human evolution is speeding up. Look no farther than

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the work of Dr. John Hawkes an anthropologist from the University of Madison Wisconsin. He studied

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rapid evolution or what's called positive selection in human beings and what he found was that in the

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last 5,000 years human evolution is now moving 100 times faster and this link comes to you from

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the BBC news. So clearly this is not being hidden it's right out there in the open. This is causing

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humans to get to a point where we're ready to make this big jump to our dyadic selves. Yeah do you

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remember that? We were ready but then it just like didn't happen like we all felt it but then it just

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didn't. It was a couple seconds but we weren't ready so we just said no. Yeah we were like we

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don't want to do the research. Yeah and he's quoting a very real article but I feel like he

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he fell into the trap of only reading the headline. No like we love headlines are amazing sometimes.

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So this is a direct quote from the article that he cited and saying that human evolution is at

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an all-time level that we're ready to make the next leap into god-like beings. 5,000 years is such

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a small sliver of times that co-author professor John Hawkes of the University of Wisconsin Madison

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is 100 or 200 generations ago. That's how long since some of these genes originated and today

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they are in 30 to 40 percent of people because they've had such an advantage. Yeah that seems

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to support him. The researchers propose that there are two factors causing human evolution to speed

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up. One of them is that there are a lot more people. The more people you have the more

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opportunities there are for an advantageous mutation to show up said professor Harpon.

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A large population has more genetic variation and allows for more positive selection than a small

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one. And geez wouldn't you say that human population has exploded in the last 5,000 years? I would not

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just kidding and now that I think about it yeah maybe a little it's gone up. I would say that

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human beings did not surpass a billion people until the year 1900. Yeah I mean that's within

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that amount of time. We're at just about nine billion now like it's mind-boggling and yes that

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does mean that we're evolving slightly faster. The second part which is just as important is

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environmental change. Our diets have changed we're in radically new environments and we are with a

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large population size which comes with a lot of new diseases. So they're oh yeah yeah they're

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chalking up the fact that we are evolving faster to the fact that we've put ourselves in artificial

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environments with lots of us which makes a lot of fucking sense. Yeah. The next scientific claim

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that he uses to explain that humans are evolving at a monumental pace to become gods among men

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who are also us who are gods among gods. Of course we are. Is the Flynn effect which is a proven fact

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that over about a decade's time the average IQ on an IQ test goes up by three. So we actually need

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to take that into account and say adjust the average on an IQ test so that it goes back to

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a hundred. You can also see what's called the Flynn effect in which everyone's IQ is increasing

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by an average of three points per decade. This is not unique to any one country it's been occurring

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over 20 different countries and those are only the ones that Dr. Flynn was studying. The change

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has been going on for more than a century over 100 years. So he's saying that look we're always

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getting smarter going at such a pace like we can't even keep up with it with just measuring IQ.

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Like IQ is supposed to measure the inherent intelligence and it just keeps skyrocketing.

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So of course that means we're going to be god soon right? Right. No I can't I can't. Can't argue

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with that. I can't consolidate that. As Agricacy I can't consolidate that. Okay that's fair. The

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Flynn effect is a very real thing and in fact there's an entire Wikipedia page on it as well

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as more websites but guess what I went to the Wikipedia page. Do you know what it says? You

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don't. I will just tell you. No I don't. Before I even get to this part I need to say IQ tests do

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not measure inherent intelligence. They measure your ability to do well on an intelligence test.

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That's it. Yeah I mean if you're coming from 1900 you're not going to perform well on an

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intelligence test from now and I'm Agricacy I already predicted this. Well no but even then

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like the only thing an IQ test tells you is how well you do on a test. It doesn't tell you your

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inherent IQ. People say it does but it doesn't. Yeah no of course it doesn't. But with that out

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of the way like there's many different answers to why the Flynn effect actually happens. John Martens

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and colleagues in 2004 examined scores on intelligence tests given to Norwegian conscripts

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between 1915 and 2002 and they found that the increase in scores of general intelligence

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stopped after the mid 1990s and actually started to decline in numerical reasoning and subtests.

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So the Flynn effect actually doesn't exist anymore. It died out in about the early 2000s.

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So take that as Agricacy. I was wrong. And by Agricacy I mean David Wilcox. David Wilcox as

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Agricacy was wrong on this. But also other people have looked at this. Teasdale and Owen in 2005

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examined the results of IQ tests given to Danish male conscripts between 1959 and 1979. The gains

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were three points per decade between 1979 and 1989. The increase approached two IQ points.

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Between 1989 and 1998 the gain was about 1.3 points and between 1998 and 2004 the IQ declined

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by about the same amount as it gained between 1989 and 1998. That's super interesting. Yeah they

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speculate that a contributing factor in this recent fall could be simultaneous decline in the

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proportion of students entering three-year advanced level school programs for 16 to 18 year olds. And

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the same authors in a more comprehensive 2008 study again on a Danish male conscript found there was

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a 1.5 point increase between 1988 and 1998 but a 1.5 decrease between 1998 and 2003 to 2004.

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So the Flynn effect has nothing to do with cosmic energy making us smarter. Oh I wouldn't think so.

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It basically was us getting better at the tests and then I don't know stress or just life slipping

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away but we're not doing it anymore so the Flynn effect's not real. I would never blame it on cosmic

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energy it's just collective as a whole we get smarter and better at things as we go along.

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about it. He said people are getting happier. Yeah it's a 2008 study that says people are getting

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happier. We also are seeing within the United States that the gap between the people who are

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the most happy and the most unhappy is narrowing. That means that everything is normalizing and

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everyone overall is becoming happier. You're seeing less extremes and everyone is balancing out and

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both of these are based on surveys in which people are asked questions and we're able to gauge that

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their happiness is increasing over time. Really? And I don't even... citation not even needed for

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me to say yeah that's laughable at this point. That is absolutely true. So yeah that's the science he

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relies on again. He is not educated in the ways of science. He has an arts degree and he was told by

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Richard Hoagland who has literally no scientific training that dude your research sucks. Yeah

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that's funny and then he gives himself a master's degree. Yeah also graduate studies. Yeah that was

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a roller coaster of a ride of... We got one more thing. This is where we're gonna end it off so

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we haven't talked about this yet but he has written many books despite the fact that he

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apparently is doing research and doing all this other stuff he finds so much time to write. Also

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that guy I referenced earlier for finding all those horrible prophecies that David Wilcock made

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also has very good proof that David Wilcock is just a plagiarist which to be fair I hold no alms

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against him because I plagiarize a lot. I try to cite all my sources but it's hard. True. I see

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where you're coming from as a fellow uncaster on your same bug hence. Yes. But he has written many

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books. He started in 2002 his first actual book was called Divine Cosmos Convergence Volume 3.

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After that it was the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce Interdimensional Communication and Global

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Transformation in 2004. I thought Edgar Cayce was first. No actually Convergence all came out before

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that but I guess the question really is do you count it as a book they weren't charging for.

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Ah yes. Okay yeah. After that the renewal a synopsis of possible 2012 changes which he was

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involved in with commentary and where my story ends off the last thing that he did in my portion

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of the David Wilcock biography is the source field investigations the hidden science and

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law civilizations behind the 2012 prophecies where he genuinely believes in 2012 we were going to

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ascend to the point of being gods among men. Human becomes godlike. That is the promise that

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ultimately even is in the Bible. All those things I talked about before that's when it was going to

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happen so we are going to end that there. Congratulations you now have your diploma

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you're invited to the I Told You So party in 2013. Well we still don't know if it happens or not

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because it's not 2012 yet. Exactly did man attain the level of god and rise above everything did

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something else cataclysmic happen in 2012. I can't even talk about the cabals he brings up so many

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cabal and secret space things but I just didn't have time because we had all that other stuff.

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Obviously we've had two episodes here already that was a lot that was a lot to take in. Yeah. I do

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have a few points to make. Okay go ahead. My first one I know I talked about how I'm equally as much

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Edgar Cayce as David I'm more so Edgar Cayce than what David Wilcock is. Yeah because you haven't

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charged anybody for reading. I haven't charged anyone for readings yet. I might get there when

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I realize I need donations but I just think it's funny he got into this so young like when I look

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back on the interviews I started watching of him he was so young and I just looked back on myself

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at that age and I'm like how would you set yourself on the career path of setting yourself as up as

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Edgar Cayce and starting yourself up on this career path. I just it makes it's mind blowing to me to

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be doing this like who chooses that for themselves like this is the trajectory I'm gonna go I'm gonna

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just pretend I'm Edgar Cayce and see where it takes me from there. Crazy. Second point I want to make

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probably the last point I want to make. I did I was taken in as I can see I can see where people

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are coming from liking David Wilcock. These are people Taylor and I both watched David Wilcock

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together because we liked UFOs. We both think a little bit different like out of the box I would

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say out of the box. Well I think we both got involved at least like learning about the 2012

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process. Yeah it was that it was a lot and he got heavily involved in that group. It was 2012 I don't

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know that it was 2012 more so as the this is more where I got into it and I'm sure you're the same

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is more than just like it's not the I know more than you it do you know what I'm talking about

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it's like the not ascension it's just the like oh he's condescending for sure not condescending

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it's like um pretentious no because that's not what we get me on to David Wilcock it's like the

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there's something else there's something else to this world like the UFOs is what got me the

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kind of secret government thing that got me this kind of otherworldly thing the word is

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totally escaping me right now just that other kind of worldly there's something else going on to put

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it at its simplest and I was into that I was like yeah there probably is something more going on I

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want to know more about what this guy is talking about he would say there's something more that

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meets the eye but my band it's so good yeah that was that whole thing like there were parts of his

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talks that are actually very captivating and like they draw you in and have I wouldn't say good

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points because the science is terrible but it's interesting it's charismatic he takes in those

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people who kind of like UFOs but then they're like what's more to UFOs and he kind of starts

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talking about it and then sells them all these extra things and I can see how it can happen to

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people who aren't really thinking more about it but right away to me it maybe not right away it

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was like because his videos when he first got into it with project camelot like they're an hour two

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hours long which I was okay with it at that time I just do other stuff I still love longer podcasts

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and stuff like that but then he started after you know you listen to a few podcasts and you're like

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oh enlightened that's the word I'm looking for he he takes this enlightened he's enlightened

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he has a certain persona of condescending enlightenment yes that's exactly it he is

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a condescending enlightened so when you're listening to his videos you're like well I can't

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not agree with him because he's very condescending about people who don't think that way in which

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when you look at people who disagree with him online he's very condescending towards them is

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that they're so stupid for disagreeing with him and you see that all over the internet and that's

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us now and I guarantee you he's going to be doing google searches and we'll find this so hello David

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Wilcock we would welcome you on this show yes we will welcome you and I challenge you on being

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Edgar Cayce because I can make as good as an Edgar Cayce I put money on it not that much money but

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it's David Wilcock for sure next episode I'm gonna take off on where we left off hold on hold on

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because I need to finish this off now like we're leaving this off on the cliffhanger that is

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December 21st 2012 that is the convergence sorry convergence and the coming together of the

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galactic rays to bring humanity to the next level of ascension where we can control time and space

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that's where we're ending does it happen does it not find out next episode on dragon ball z

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or for journey to the fringe same thing hey

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