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Okay, okay. So let's just get it started because I'm really excited for this episode. So

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I'm doing a little bit of an update. So of course we're waiting on the Mass Casualty Commission.

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Well, kind of not waiting on it, but you know, casually watching it. And as it carries on,

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we continue to get sporadic updates out of what are those force boys up to the Gabriel

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Wartman case episode. So Chelsea, I just need to check. Would you say that we put the casual

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in Mass Casualty? Yeah, I'd say that. Except that I wouldn't really want to put anything into Mass

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Casualty. Okay. But yeah, we could go with that. We're pretty casual. First up, actually, I think

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this is the only one up. So let's just talk about the RCMP officers that visited Wartman's house

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16 times in Porta Picc, Nova Scotia in 2010, 2011 and 2013 before the 2020 mass shooting. And they

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had concluded that there was never enough evidence to investigate the man. I don't know about you,

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but I didn't hear about this anywhere. I heard a few things coming and going on the news, but not

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this. There's been a local Kelowna website that's been pretty good at keeping everybody up to date

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on what's going on in the commission. I've quite liked it. Yeah, that's nice. And you have to kind

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of be actively looking for it, but I've never heard this like out in the open. Obviously in

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this public inquiry, they're looking for what contact police had with the government. If you

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remember back from the episode we did, which is looking like a lot, a lot. And the visits were on

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account of the multiple complaints from people, which I will get to the complaint soon. Don't

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worry. I won't leave you hanging. Constable Greg Wiley said he had developed a rapport with the man

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being Wartman beginning around 2008 and saw him in 2017 and was asked to follow up at at least one

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of the complaints made against Wartman. He says, quote, we get a gazillion threat complaints, everybody

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and their dogs phoning in. Wiley told RCMP investigators six days after the shooting,

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according to the transcript released by the inquiry. Doing the checkups, it's not realistic.

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I don't think the force dropped the ball on this. The first complaint was from an uncle who reported

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Wartman had made death threats against his parents who lived in New Brunswick. Cordell Poirier,

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a retired Halifax regional police officer of 35 years, first heard the gunman's name early on

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June 2nd, 2010 when the RCMP officer from Moncton, New Brunswick called to tell him about the threat

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complaints. The Mountie said Paul Wartman, the gunman's father, had gotten a call from his brother

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Glenn Wartman in Edmonton. Glenn Wartman said Gabriel Wartman had called him while upset about

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a family land deal and he was threatening to go to Moncton and kill his parents. Poirier recalled

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in an interview with the commission. The RCMP officer also told Poirier he learned from Paul

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Wartman that his son was a bad alcoholic and had possession of several long-barreled weapons.

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Poirier and another officer went around 3.30am to the Portland Street address in Dartmouth,

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Nova Scotia where Gabriel Wartman lived and had his denturist office. They spoke to his partner

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Lisa Banfield at the door who said he had passed out drunk a few hours earlier. She told him that

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there were no weapons in the house. Poirier said in his initial report that he would not confirm

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or deny the threat Wartman made about his parents. Although Poirier said he needed to speak with him

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in person and left his card, he did not hear anything. He followed up the next regular day

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shift on June 7th and went to the Portland Street home again but no one answered the door.

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As he was heading back to his cruiser, Poirier said he got a call from Wartman who said he was

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calling from Banfield's own in Port-au-Pic. He wouldn't admit or deny making the threat about

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his parents and said he would be away for the next month at the Port-au-Pic college and a trip to New

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England, Poirier told the commission. Poirier said he still wanted to eventually meet in person.

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Wartman became confrontational and said the only weapons that he had in the house was a pellet gun

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and two antique muskets, both non-functional. That conversation ended with him saying,

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look if you're going to charge me, charge me and he hung up, Poirier said. He also said he tried

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multiple times to speak directly with the uncle, Glyn Wartman, but he always got an answering

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machine and his calls were never returned. Poirier then did speak with Paul Wartman,

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the father was convinced the gunman, who had no firearms license, had several serious weapons,

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including pistols and long barrel guns and hadn't seen them himself in more than five years.

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Given that time gap, Poirier noted his report that without recent knowledge,

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a public safety warrant could not be obtained. He also told Paul Wartman the threat file couldn't

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go anywhere unless he got some cooperation from the uncle. Soon after his call with Gabriel Wartman,

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Poirier said he spoke with Wiley over the phone about the firearms complaint. Wiley told me that

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he was a good friend of the man's, according to Poirier, and would try to go out to find if he

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indeed had weapons in his cottage. He never heard back from Wiley, Poirier said, so he closed the

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file on his end since there was no grounds to follow up or lay a threat charge. I was hoping

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that with the information I had given the RCMP that they would be able to find something out on

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their end, Poirier told the commission. Wiley had been aware of Wartman's family dispute from

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previous visits to his Port-au-Pic college while on patrol in the area. However, his recollection

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differs from Poirier's accounts in his interview with RCMP on April 25, 2020. Wiley said he didn't

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recall hearing directly from another officer about the specific firearms complaint, only an email.

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He went to see the suspect regardless. And so even after the email came out, I had went in and he was

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fine with me 100 percent, so I don't know whether there was an element of caution by police or

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anything like that in the email. I can't remember, but I thought he isn't a threat to me, Wiley said

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in the interview. Wiley also said he saw no evidence of firearms any of the approximately 16

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times he was there over the years. 16 times. He had developed a professional relationship with

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the gunman years earlier, describing him as polite and welcoming after responding to a break-in at his

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garage where tools were stolen. Wiley said once most of the tools were recovered and the case was

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closed, he checked in with the man frequently. They could settle that file. Yeah, no kidding.

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The case of the mass murderer's missing tools. Yeah, close, but we kept going back to check in on him.

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I knew the value of having a few people in the community that you go to and ironically,

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this is the irony of it. I was going to a guy, him of all guys, and asking, um, is there anything we

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should know about or anyone? Anyone that should be on our radar? And isn't it ironic how things

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have turned out? Said Wiley. Wiley said he didn't see any weapons in the cottage. There was another

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instance, which was a tip circulated by town police in Truro, Nova Scotia. The woman wanted

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to kill a cop. The next time Poirier saw the gunman's name was in a report May 3rd, 2011 from

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Corporal Greg Dunsmore of the Truro Police Service, Densmore, that an unknown man had approached him

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while on duty and said Wortmann stated he wants to kill a cop. According to Densmore's reports,

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the source said Wortmann had at least one handgun he'd taken between Dartmouth and Porta Peak,

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plus several long rifles located at his college that may be stored in a compartment located behind

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the flu. The report was also issued as an officer safety bulletin to all police agencies in the

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province on May 4th. All police agencies. Like I said, police had been told Wortmann was under a

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lot of stress and has mental issues. Use extreme caution when dealing with Wortmann, the bulletin

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said. Yet the other guy just was using him as some contact in the community. Like of course,

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when I saw that one, the first thing I noticed was the name and you know, ding dong. I said,

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I remember him, Poirier told the commission. Poirier called Densmore to fill him in on the

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2010 threat file and Densmore shared that the source told him Wortmann stored his handgun in

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his bedside nightstand. At this time, Poirier said he called the Bible Hill Detachment again and spoke

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with Wiley, filling him in about the Truro report and told him that an RCMP member should be sent

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to speak with Wortmann. He didn't speak with Wiley again until July 17th, Poirier said, and Wiley

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still hadn't spoken with Wortmann. Poirier said he said he found it strange. The RCMP officer still

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hadn't met with the men well over a month after getting the report. Poirier also spoke with active

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supervisor constable John MacMinn at Bible Hill RCMP and told him about the Densmore report. MacMinn

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said he'd review Wiley's file 2010 threat to determine what action if any was taken last year

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and get back to Poirier within the day. But Poirier said that it never happened, so from his perspective

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that was it and he left the case with the RCMP. I wasn't going to continually call back saying

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what's going on, they're handling it, so whatever they did, they did. Poirier said that was the last

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time he heard of the gunman until that horrible day when I heard his name after the 2020 mass

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shooting. In the interview with police, Wiley said he didn't remember seeing the Densmore bulletin

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with details about Wortmann wanting to kill a cop or any conversation with MacMinn. According

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to commissioned documents, Densmore couldn't find out any more details about the unknown source who

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tipped him off on his notes and when he tried to check the original Truau police incident report,

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the files have been purged from the system. There is one more at least involved a neighbor who

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reported to police concerns about his behavior as well. That's number three. A former neighbor of

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Wortmann's Brenda Forbes said she told police in the summer of 2013 that she'd heard he had held

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down and beaten Banfield behind one of the properties he owned in Porta Peak. Forbes also

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told police he had illegal weapons, which she had seen herself in 2007 or 2008. She doesn't remember.

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She said she spoke to Glynn Wortmann who said he witnessed the violent incident. Forbes said she

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spoke to two RCMP officers, but the uncle refused to talk with the police because he worried his

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nephew would kill him. The officer told Forbes they had no proof the gunman had any weapon,

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she recalled, but they would keep an eye on him. Constable Troy Maxwell, the RCMP officer who took

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her July 6, 2013 complaint, proved the commission with one page of his notes. According to the RCMP

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internal review of their records of Forbes complaint, Maxwell remembers it was about

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concerns. Wortmann was acting aggressively in the neighborhood. Review found no indication in the

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records that it involved domestic violence. Maxwell went to the Porta Peak cottage twice

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with two different colleagues with negative results and there are no more details on the

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complaint. President of the National Police Federate Brian Sauve, who represents RCMP members

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below the rank of inspector, said there was insufficient evidence to allow RCMP officers

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to secure a warrant to search for firearms at Wortmann's residence when police were informed

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of his weapons in 2010 and 2011. And based on the information presented by the inquiry about

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Wortmann's firearms, Sauve said it is clear that our members followed the law and their training

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and were not able to take further steps to investigate without more reliable evidence.

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There you have it, until our next update, there are multiple police complaints made about Wortmann

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who checked out. And hey, they got him his tools back so, yeah, he's doing their jobs. They did do

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their jobs, you know, slightly unsettled by all of this that they were like, yeah, this guy had a

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mass shooting. We investigated him three times and he checked out. He seemed like a good guy.

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He seemed like a completely good guy. We formed a relationship with him and checked in with him

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all the time and he was fine. It may in fact bother me more than it should maybe how openly

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like the cops identify with this guy and think he's a great guy. He did. And I don't know if

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they're using it as maybe like, you know, like we were really there. We did our due diligence in

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checking it out. And like to me, they didn't because like, obviously these were all things

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they should have been checking in a little bit more to. Do you think they're using that as a like,

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yeah, we knew him. He was good. He was fine. Like this is just a freak accident is how I'm

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taking them to be representing it. I don't know. Just on a purely anecdotal view,

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which pretty much everything we do is I find cops are way too willing to make friends with

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and understand people coming from an extreme right wing violence point of view.

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True. Do you think it's de-escalation or just like interest?

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No, they just identify with where they're coming from a lot more, maybe a little bit too risque

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to say in this episode, I'll probably end up editing this out. There's a reason the cops,

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they shut down left-wing protests, like Black Lives Matter within minutes of them starting.

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And then somehow like the trucker rally was able to gain footing for weeks on end.

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Okay. I get where you're coming from. I would have never thought of it that way,

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but you think like way more at or sometimes. Thank you. I'll tell people that now.

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Yeah, that's a good point. I really like that point that you made.

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Thank you for keeping it casual as we are now doing for we have to keep up with our puns.

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And let's get into this episode now for. I'm excited.

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Yeah, we're going to see where this goes.

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on our journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to journey to the fringe where we join this week's episode already in progress.

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Speaking of David Wilcock loving to talk about himself, I think this is a great point now to go

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into David Wilcock's personal biography that he has written on divine cosmos.

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I was hoping you'd do that. Yeah. You guys are in for a treat.

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That's how I would describe it as well. Ever since age two, David remembers having

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dreams of massive metallic cylinders floating in the sky along with bizarre

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psychic synchronicities during the day. My fucking.

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At age five, David had spontaneous out of body experience that greatly crystallized his quest

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for the truth of ESP metaphysics and consciousness. What the fuck does that even mean?

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Crystal. I know.

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Crystal eyes. No, he talks about crystals a lot.

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So that makes sense. That's not a noun to crystallize something,

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is it? Oh, yeah. Something crystallized in time.

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OK, just kind of like I've never heard it put like that. OK, I've never heard it put like that.

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OK, just to basically make something stand still.

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Now that you say it that way, it makes sense, but I've literally never.

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That idea in my mind is now crystallized is also something you can say.

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Something that sounds more normal than what he said.

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At age seven, David read his first full length adult paperback book about ESP entitled

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How to Make ESP Work for You by Daryl Sherman. He conducted successful telepathic

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experiments with his friends and demonstrated repeated psychic accuracy while still in second

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grade, culminating in a classroom demonstration of his abilities.

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Oh, God. Oh, and then we get on the tough times.

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David's parents divorced when he was 11 years old and he quickly began gaining weight through

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emotional eating, trying to stuff his pain with food. Again, he wrote this entire thing.

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As he got larger, he started wearing black t-shirts to try to hide the weight

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and became increasingly socially isolated. He reached his heaviest and most depressed

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point at age 15. Again, this is his biography. He started it too, and he's going the whole way.

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This is how much he loves to talk about himself. At age 16, David committed to a weight loss plan

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and soon had the first of an ongoing series of lucid dreams consciously induced through a

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technique he learned in Dr. Steven LeBurge's book, Lucid Dreaming. He lost 85 pounds by strict

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dieting during this year of his life, going from 225 down to 140. Perhaps 20 or so of those pounds

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were in his hair alone. You gotta admit, he cleans up good. He then follows up with a photo.

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I did see the photo. A before and after.

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Oh my gosh. Okay, probably on the socials too.

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David's grades also improved along with his self-esteem as a result of losing so much weight.

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The day he cut his hair, people were stopping dead in their tracks when they saw him in the

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hallways. He missed an opportunity.

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What's that? Sleeping on books.

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Oh fuck, yeah, that doesn't come up once. What an idiot.

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No, he always breaks about how many books he reads.

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What an idiot. His transformation so impressed the

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faculty of Scotia Glenville High School that David was awarded the Martin J. Mahoney Memorial

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Award for personal and academic progress. He actually bragged about an award he got in

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middle school. Yeah, I got nothing. I have none, so I can't jump on the bandwagon.

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And it's like, he got the most improved award. Like, that's not something necessarily to brag

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about. That doesn't mean you were great, it just means you were better than you were before.

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It's no Edgar Cayce. No.

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He was healing tailbone. He got tailbone figured out with those ice packs.

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He was well on his way by this point. He was just most-

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And he only had a grade five education.

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Yeah, that's a little higher than grade five.

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I know. That just a bit is right.

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And this is my favorite part because he focused on this so much. I could not find the video,

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but he talked about this a ton back in the day. At age 19, after one bleary-eyed year of college

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partying, David went totally sober and began a detailed journal of all his dreams on a daily

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basis. He has an unbroken record of dreams that continues to this day some 14 years later.

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Currently, David averages 80 to 100 pages of private journal and writings every 15 days.

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meditative journaling and dream work to be essential to spiritual growth.

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He's documenting his emails. I can't even imagine if I had a notebook and I was not only writing on

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my dreams, I mean not to break, but I had some pretty good dreams, along with my emails and

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other things in my day. It actually does surprise me how much shit this guy does get done in a day

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because he posts blog posts almost daily on Defying Cosmos back in the day.

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Well, this is his job. And they were long. I know.

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For some reason. But at least he was committed to it.

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I know. And I'm just thinking like how compelling would my dreams and my emails be? Probably not

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very. Be a wild ride though. It sure would be.

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I should do it. And that's the point. Do you remember back

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in his old videos how we talked about how he was a raging alcoholic and he actually considers

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himself a recovering alcoholic? Yeah.

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He says it's a bleary idea of college partying. Back in his videos, he described it as like a

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month. And I'm actually pretty sure it was like a weekend of over drinking. And he's like, no,

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I don't like alcohol. But no, that's not how he describes it. He's a recovering alcoholic.

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Yeah. I actually get that from him. I don't look at him and I was like, yeah,

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I would like to like party with him. No, no, no.

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Yeah. I don't even want to have a conversation with that guy.

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No, I wouldn't. No, he doesn't give you that. He's a guy I want to have a beer with.

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He does give me the vibe. Which to be fair, he doesn't drink.

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Yeah. He does give me the vibe of like I had a few too many drinks one weekend and I felt bad

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the next day and that was it. And now I'm a recovering alcoholic.

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And I was an alcoholic and now I'm cured. Well, it's just another thing that adds to his...

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Narcissism, yes. Narcissism. For some reason,

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I don't even know how you add that to your narcissism. I could tell you a million stories

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like that, but here I am having a glass of wine. And I'm out of alcohol and I still

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have to talk about this guy. We're going to have to take a break soon.

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I was just going to say, do you want to go take a break?

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I got to finish. There is a good break coming up, I think, in a bit.

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I love he now upsells himself. David later graduated from State University of New York

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at New Paltz with a BA in psychology and a master's equivalent in experience from his

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internship at a suicide hotline, completing his formal education at age 22.

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Shut up. He worked for that suicide hotline.

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A master's... For less than a year.

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And he says that it's a master's equivalent. What the fuck? I've never heard this.

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And also something really important here, it's going to come up in a bit.

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He has a degree in psychology, which is a bachelor of arts degree. It's not a science degree.

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Yeah. This guy fancies himself a scientist.

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Yeah. But he does not have a science degree.

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Okay. So he has a master's degree. But it does continue.

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It's not just because of the suicide hotline work. David's quote unquote graduate studies

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with higher intelligence had already begun at age 20 by fully reading and absorbing an average of

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three metaphysical books per week. He integrated over 300 metaphysical titles between 1993 and

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1995. David's internet research began in 1996 and soon replaced books as the predominant medium of

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study. Though internet writing is often lower in quality than published books. It also contains

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much that cannot be found in libraries and bookstores. And search functions are irreplaceable.

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I really love, he's like, yeah, it's not as great, but there's more.

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And they're not writing the same stuff in books, which probably means it's not true.

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It's funny that he's saying search functions are irreplaceable because we're trying to search this

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and he doesn't come up fucking anywhere. Yep. He does not have a Wikipedia page,

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guys. Just so we're on the same page, does not have a Wikipedia page.

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Bizarre, bizarre. Just coming from what we do. There's a lot to unload in what you just said.

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And there's a million things I could have a master's degree in right now. We have master's

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degrees in Journey to the Fringe and whatever topic we generalize this under going by that logic.

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Yeah, we got our master's in life a couple of years ago now. Yeah.

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Life and life sciences. Yeah.

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But I love that he put it in quotation marks, graduate studies.

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Oh, like this is mind blowing. All of this. This is his biography, right? We're still on that.

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Just so we were all on the same page, too, I should have said this at the beginning.

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I am reading this unedited because I want you guys to see this guy's mind.

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From his biography, right? Yeah.

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Okay. We're still there. Oh, we're not even halfway through.

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This is good stuff. And he's giving it all to us for free.

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We now have nine feet worth of books from printed website articles, which David organized with a

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binding machine. This massive archive has spawned all three Convergence books published freely on

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his site with Book 3 Divine Cosmos being the most sophisticated in content, end and writing style.

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Hence the new name of the website. This archive also spawned part three of the

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reincarnation of Casey Emmett for a trilogy of Convergence films. And we're still only

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using a small portion of what we've uncovered, though we do feel it is the best portion,

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the most inspiring and scientifically sound. Wilcox's preliminary direct contact with

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higher intelligence was through a quick burst of automatic writing, which occurred at 22

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in November of 95. Quick burst.

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Okay. A very small number of characters gave a Bible citation that was highly synchronistic

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and meaningful to David at that time, even though he had never studied the Bible.

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I don't know why he decided that those numbers meant the Bible either.

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And if he'd never studied the Bible, he literally just said, oh, that's meaningful to me.

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Because he found random numbers and saw that and he's like, oh, it's meaningful to me.

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Okay. You know, it could have been his next

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speeding ticket amount that he'd have to pay. Ticket. Sorry. Ticket, not speeding ticket.

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I'm going to skip this next bit and it doesn't make any difference.

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The automatic writing experience paved the way for David to begin reading the raw material,

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Law of One series in January of 96, channeled by LL Research based in Louisville,

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Kentucky since 1983. The Law of One integrated and explained all 300 books worth of David's

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metaphysical research and his three years worth of esoteric dream research so well that he felt

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as if it had been written for him. It also seemed to clearly be implying that a major change,

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literally a dimensional shift was coming to the earth in the not too distant future.

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David was dazzled to discover that no one had ever written a book about the science of the

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Law of One series before. And he began writing some articles on Richard Hoagland's discussion

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boards in the summer of 96. And this is where he starts to get that involvement.

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In November of 96 at 23, David broke through the direct verbal contact with his own higher self,

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thanks to the tuning provided by the Law of One study and the ongoing daily teamwork.

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This proved to be the most important single event of David's entire life.

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And it utterly changed everything, taking all the outside studies and suddenly making them

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intensely personal. The source showed that it was outside of time and it could accurately predict

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events before they happened with great precision. And it was also a fount of unending wisdom,

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fount of unending wisdom regarding of how David could further grow spiritually.

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He had a lot more work to be done in releasing fear, increasing responsibility, developing his

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scientific models, etc. In September of 97, David was told in a consciously induced out of body

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experience to move to Virginia Beach, Virginia. As soon as David arrived in Virginia Beach,

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many ARE, no idea what that is, didn't define it at all. By the way, he said OBE, but didn't define

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it. Luckily, I know I think that means out of body experience. It might. It could be mean

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something totally different if he didn't define it. Maybe he had an, he induced an OBE. I don't know.

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Yeah. And who the fuck knows what that is. So fine. Yeah. As soon as David arrived in Virginia,

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many ARE people recognized him. It's a spinning image of young Edgar Cayce. Then in November of

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97, and again, he said the important date was 98, but he moved there in 97. Like what an idiot.

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He could have even done that. Like that was all within his control. Yeah. After considerable

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speculation from self and others, David confronted his source directly about the possibility of

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being Edgar Cayce in the past life. The source said that in short, the answer is yes. And with

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his knowledge comes great responsibility. Other than the start of the channeling itself, this was

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by far the greatest surprise of David's entire life. It was extremely difficult for him to accept

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this, but the reason that he had talked about it with others and spread the word. Can you imagine

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after he like takes us down from his higher self and he's like, no, I don't want to do it. And they

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say, no, you have to be an ass. Everybody needs to see you. Everyone needs to know this. Why?

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I'm definitely picturing like a Tommy Waza level of like tantrum about finding out that

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his girlfriend's cheating on him with his best friend.

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That is so perfect for this level of ego. I think if there is ever a David Wilcock biopic,

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Tommy was all has played him. I love it. I don't know that he would do it though. No,

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no. He's sitting on all that room money now. I know, but not only that, but like

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he lends himself to the craft and like, I don't know that David Wilcock is worthy,

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but I get where you're coming from. Like you would be perfect to play David Wilcock.

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He has the perfect level of charisma for this.

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He has, that is exactly it. That would be perfect cast.

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It was extremely difficult for him to accept this, but the readings insisted that he talk about it

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with others and spread the word. They also insisted that he either begin doing readings

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professionally and published books for free online, or he would completely lose his ability.

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Also something I didn't talk about up until this point, but he does readings for people this entire

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time from like 96 to the mid early 2000s. What kind of readings? Dream readings mostly,

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but like he would also like do the psychic stuff. Anybody could do that. And no, are you serious?

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Yeah. He charged people for it. He charged people. Okay. But going back to that, going back to Edgar

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Casey, I know you're coming fresh off of this one. You might need to go back to the first Edgar Casey,

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but how many people are hypnotizing people, asking them what's wrong with that guy? Maybe. No,

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I can't, I can't even give an excuse for what he's doing. You shouldn't be giving readings of any

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sort. I can't believe this though. I swear to God, I can give him a run for his money.

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If I got a hypnotist to do that, ask me, I'll tell him something. Here I go.

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If you're going to say you're Edgar Casey, just leave the money making on the cruise ships. Don't

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do the fucking readings. That's like the entire thing about Casey. He's like, no, I'm not going

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to make money off this. Oh yeah. Good point. I feel like it's my life being now to challenge David

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Wilcock on this and be like, no, I'm Edgar Casey. Just keep your Benjamins on the cruise ships,

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man. It's not that hard. I don't think there's you've got cruise money. Yeah. Yeah. It depends

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on how many people he got. I got it. I got it. Okay. I'm going to get a hypnotist. They're going

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to ask me, I'll pay them money. Don't tell anyone though. Pay them money and ask them to be like,

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Hey, what's wrong with that guy or what's wrong with me? And they'll be like, holy shit. Tailbone.

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Got it. Fucking do it. She healed my tailbone. It's now tailbones. And I'll be like, nah,

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I can't continue to do this for people because. Edgar said I have to for money. Yeah. No, no,

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Edgar didn't say I have to. I'm Edgar and I'm saying no. Like I have too many moral obligations

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to actually be giving readings. Then on the down low, someone will ask me about my experiences as

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Edgar Casey. And then they'll sneak out an autobiography unofficially. And I'm, I'm the real

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Edgar Casey. And then I'll be like, no, I don't want anyone to talk about that. Cause I'm the real

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Edgar Casey. And he didn't actually want to talk about all this. He'd never been egomaniac like

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fucking David Wilcock. And then that's it. Then I'll fucking. Okay. Punch him in the throat.

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That that's a good plan. I like it. You prophesized it in fact. Look at that. I know.

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You're going to get them going up the stairs. That's my best way to get people by the way.

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Okay. You guys have heard the prophecy here. We got a reporting. We're going to edit it in fact,

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just to make it even more factual. Yeah. 190 IQ right here. Not to break or anything, but 190.

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I know everything anyone's ever said to me in every book I've ever read. Cause I sat on them.

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So beginning in July of 1998 and ending in August of 2005, David conducted 500

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paid personal readings as a full-time professional intuitive counselor. David's first stab at a

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convergence volume was published on the great dreams website in the spring of 1998.

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It's the great dreams website. No idea. No idea. Okay. And David's own website,

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Ascension 2000 came online in February of 1999 and maybe the greatest bracket. No content has

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ever been deleted from this website since it's inception, but we did change the name.

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The first complete volume of convergence was posted on March 8th, 1999 on Wilcox 26th birthday.

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The second volume was completed in late 2000. The first volume largely rewritten in 2001 and the

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third and most important volume, divine cosmos in April of 2002, the reincarnation of Edgar Casey

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with the question mark finally hit bookstores nationwide in 2004. I have no idea why he says

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finally. Well, this is the first reference to the book in any way. Not only that that's his first

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book. Is it not? It's first one that actually got released. Like the other ones were like three

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online books. Okay. Though most of David's work on the book was completed in 2003. Again, there are

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two authors, but the book was edited through at least three different passes by David, though he

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did not suppress any material that may have cast him in an unfavorable light, only striving to

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increase readability and round out the supporting data. He put that. He put that. Oh for fuck sakes.

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This guy. Reincarnation, which is apparently what he calls it for short, became the third

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bestselling book in the entire frog books catalog, though consistently left in a foul smelling cloud

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of dust by Walter the farting dog. I have no idea what that means. This is the greatest bio mess.

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Hold on. Walter the farting dog. While you do that, I just got to get a drink. Oh, yes, please do.

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Yeah. Oh my God. This is awful. Is it a thing? It's a thing. And he has lots of gas coming out

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of his butt. A dog literally with gas coming out of his ass like right now.

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I don't understand it, though consistently left in a foul smelling cloud of dust by

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Walter the farting dog. I don't get it. I don't get that either. Okay. Is he trying to be funny?

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Yeah. Yeah, he is. But like, I just don't get it. I don't get the reference. Does he know Walter?

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Did Walter review the book? Did he write Walter the farting dog?

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Must have a connection to it some way. Let's keep going. David moved to Louisville,

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Kentucky in February of 2003 to join forces with Jim and Carla, much like the mighty Edgar Casey,

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leaving Virginia Beach. The two surviving members in the law of one contact. He never left Virginia

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Beach. Oh, Edgar or David did. David did. Edgar didn't. Edgar didn't. No. Okay. He was soon

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followed by fellow members of VARA in March and Gary in late April. David reliably paid $601

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monthly rent, shopped for the group's food on Friday night and cooked the group's food for

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the entire week all Saturday. Again, this is his pile. Who are these people? Who are they?

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Bracket with fellow member VARA, who also did all the bookkeeping.

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Close bracket. Still doesn't explain who the fuck VARA is. David also regularly performed a variety

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of skilled labor tasks. This is an absolute favorite part of his bio. Why did you include this?

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David also regularly performed a variety of skilled labor tasks, including a complete

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remodeling of the basements, creating three new bedrooms and a large laundry room under the

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direction and partnership of a fellow LL member, Bruce, also known as Lone Bear, who moved in as

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of December. Gary also provided assistance in construction. It continues. Who are these people?

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Why do we need to know about them? And is this a resume? He's just talking about like what he can

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do. Well, he's done too much. It's a CV. Oh my God. It is a CV. Holy shit. But I can't even wrap

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my head around. I would never hire this guy. The remodeling process proved to be the most grueling

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physical labor David would ever perform. The guy remodeled the basement. He literally worked

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from the time he woke up to the time he went to bed every day, stopping only to take paid clients,

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cook group food all day Saturdays and attend group meetings on Sunday. He began eating. This is the

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first reference to it. He began eating regular animal protein again to support his physical

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body's muscular exertion and discovered that his particular blood type really benefited from it.

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Thus, he allowed limited types of organic meat back after a seven year stint of severely

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disciplined vegan dieting. Wait, wait one second here because it's in brackets. Sorry to our

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dedicated vegetarians out there. Some people can do it and some can't. He goes from talking about

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a vegan diet to sorry vegetarians. I love that we could totally cut out this whole part of his bio

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with no like. Nothing's lost. There's no impact but at the same time it's just no way in hell.

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Why the fuck is it there? From Walter the farting dog to fucking lone bear like what the fuck

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a difference does this mean? To the hardest work of his entire life which is putting up some drywall.

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Makes no impact to what I know about David Wolcott. I think, I think. I don't know that for sure.

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It builds his character. It builds his character. Okay. Much like the hard work he did renovating

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that basement. It seems tough. Now during this time the reincarnation book came out and during

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a short break David also produced his first reading on CD complete with his own ambient

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electronic background music entitled What is My Purpose? Did he do the music? Oh he did the music.

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He needs compact disc right? Yeah compact disc. He focused on all that. Again like he went into

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super detail where like it's not necessary at all and then like out of nowhere and by the way I had

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to give up being a vegan. And by the way that's when my next book came out on CD. And then like

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he focuses on the weirdest fucking stuff. Like right now David was tasked by Richard C. Hoagland

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to upgrade his interplanetary climate change research to a whole new level and this necessitated

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a relieving end to the basement labor by the beginning of April. Oh my god ew. We went from

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him posting in 96 Richard Hoagland's forums to he's doing research for Richard Hoagland. Or sorry

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he's being directed on research by Richard Hoagland. This is still I had a feeling that he was

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something with Richard Hoagland. This is still on his current website right? Oh yeah. He didn't feel

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the need to upgrade that to he relocated from Virginia Beach to Louisville Kentucky in which

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he worked on this research that Richard Hoagland told him to but he yet has to go into this whole.

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Even how the relationship budded. Also I use that word intentionally because I get a lot of

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Blavatsky feel from this guy. Yeah Blavatsky plays a huge role in everyone's life. Well and yeah Edgar

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Casey was taken in by Blavatsky a little bit. Not him per se but it came up so yeah there we have it.

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Listen to the episode of You're Confused. Yeah I get that too as well actually and that was a great.

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And also it should be very important right now that I say this Richard Hoagland has no formal

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training of any science like at all. He finished high school that's Richard Hoagland's background.

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Yeah and he is directing David Wilcox's research into interplanetary climate change and the best

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resources to use and it comes up right now David relies heavily on Russian scientists

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for this research. Doesn't speak a lick of Russian or sorry he might but he didn't find it important

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to fucking say in this damn bio pic. The bio I'm finding it so strange the things he's focusing on

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and not focusing on and adding in brackets about shit but continue continue please I'm intrigued

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to hear more about this. Up until the Hoagland initiative David had relied heavily on the work

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of a Russian Dr. Oleski-Dmitriev. His study to argue that our entire solar system was

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rapidly becoming brighter hotter and more energetic. Hoagland insisted that all Russian data needed to

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be thrown out for the purposes of skeptical western scientists and every point needed to be argued

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from a direct NASA study. And like really what I just told you about Richard Hoagland he is not in

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any way like formally educated and he's like dude stop fucking relying on Russian scientists

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they are not adding any look for actual studies. You don't speak Russian. Richard Hoagland's like

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the true hero first calling him out. Yeah somehow yeah. I wouldn't call Richard Hoagland a hero by

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any means except when it comes to this. And as soon as he was told that David generated well over

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a foot of new internet research books. Internet research books is what he described it as in just

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a few months as a result of this inspiration which led to the 2004 interplanetary day after

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tomorrow question mark article series on Richard's website EnterpriseMission.com and an appearance on

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Art Bell's show with Richard followed by an appearance on the Bay Area UFO Expo later that

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same year. Before leaving for the conference David had dreams equating the career breakthrough with

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winning a gold medal in the Olympics. That's such a good story. Then on the way home he found himself

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on the same flight with a local Olympic gold medalist from Kentucky. And what? Who showed her

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gold and silver medals off to the crowd? Oh it wasn't him. David luckily had his camcorder with

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a blank tape in it and filmed the whole thing as he felt this was the only way people would believe

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such a staggering synchronicity. Nice try David Wilcock. David moved out in October of 2004 to

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get much needed time and privacy to focus on his own work. I thought that's why they built the

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rooms in the basement for privacy. Yeah what the fuck was he breaking his back for and complaining

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about? I just hope he got paid for it. Maybe got builders lean on in there. Anyhow while still

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providing crucial assistance for developing LLs and rustic property Avalon which was a real passion

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for both Bruce and Vara. I just need to say this now LLs is capital L slash capital L apostrophe S

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and I have no idea what that fucking means. Okay are you serious and like who is these people?

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Yeah. Continue just have to say it again. It was intended to become a sustainable organic farm

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totally off the power grid and possible conference center. David provided farm labor

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including the completion of a large utility shed on the Avalon site and complimentary housing

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for Avalon project director Bruce Lone Bear for an entire year. David's three-bedroom Milton

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home was 3.1 miles from the Avalon site itself and equally short distance from Madison, Indiana.

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No idea why he put that. I feel like he's trying to say that he put something into it. He probably

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never got recognition or something. But the way he is with his ego I feel like it's in there for a

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reason like he's bitter maybe about something. Yeah that's there but Chelsea this is the moment

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you've been waiting for right here. Oh good oh what is it? Well hey there we gotta stop running

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into each other like this. This is Taylor the editor of Journey to the Fringe not to be confused

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