1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,840 So I've got three openers. Do you want to start with water pollution, water protecting us from 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:14,720 pollution or panspermia? The first one I want to hear first. Start with the worst one that it sounds 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,800 like first. The worst one. Well, following up on the episode we did not that long ago on water 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,360 and really how we all learned that tires are absolutely awful for the environment. Not long 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,200 after that episode came out there is an article in the Guardian about it. And first off I learned 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:37,360 that British people spell tires with a Y which kind of blows my mind. What? Yeah. That's insane. 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Yeah. What is this world even? What is that? I know. Okay, I mean whatever to them. That doesn't 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,080 even matter. But not only that, they also talked about tires within this and they said that car 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,880 tires produce vastly more particles of pollution than exhaust as of now. Really? Yeah. So toxic 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:03,200 particles from tire wear are almost 2000 times worse than from exhaust as weights of cars increase. 11 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,280 What can we even do? Like invent a hover car? Well, and this is a weird thing. It's both. Cars 12 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,880 are getting bigger and they're getting heavier. But I'll talk about that once we're done with this 13 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:20,240 article. It was posted on the Guardian on June 3rd of 2022 and the article is written by Damian 14 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Carrington. So almost 2000 times more particle pollution is produced by tire wear than is pumped 15 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,080 out of the exhaust of modern cars as of now. Wow. The tire particles pollute air, water, and soil 16 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,480 and contain a wide range of toxic organic compounds including known carcinogens and 17 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:43,040 the analysts say suggesting tire pollution could rapidly become a major issue for regulators. Tests have also 18 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,560 revealed that tires produce more than one trillion ultrafine particles for each kilometer driven, 19 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,520 meaning particles smaller than 23 nanometers. These are also emitted from the exhaust and are of special 20 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,200 concern to health as their size means they can enter organs via the bloodstream. What? Particles 21 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,040 below 23 nanometers are hard to measure and are not currently regulated in either EU or the US. 22 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:11,520 I was not ready for that turn. Yeah. Here's a quote from a Nick Molden at Emissions Analytics. 23 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Tires are rapidly eclipsing the tailpipe as a major source of emissions for vehicles. Tailpipes are now 24 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,800 so clean for pollutants that if you were starting out fresh you wouldn't even bother regulating them. 25 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,920 We came to a bewildering amount of material being released into the environment. 300,000 tons of 26 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:35,600 rubber in the UK and US just from cars and vans every year. There are currently no regulations on 27 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,560 the wear rate of tires and little regulation on the chemicals they contain. Emissions Analytics has 28 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,720 now determined the chemical present in 250 types of tires which are usually made from synthetic 29 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 rubber derived from crude oil. There are hundreds and hundreds of chemicals many of which are 30 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,120 carcinogenic. The wear rate of different tire brands varied substantially and the toxic chemical 31 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,120 content varied even more. He said showing low cost changes were feasible to cut the environmental 32 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,240 impact. You could do a lot by eliminating the most toxic tires he said. It's not about stopping 33 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,880 people from driving or having to invent completely different new tires. If you could eliminate the 34 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:16,080 worst half and maybe bring them in line with the best in class you can make a massive difference 35 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:22,240 but at the moment there's no regulatory tool then there's no surveillance. And used tires produced 36 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:29,200 36 milligrams of particles for each kilometer. 1,850 times higher than the 0.02 milligrams per 37 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:35,440 kilometer average from exhaust. Very aggressive though legal driving style sent particle emissions 38 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:44,000 soaring to 5,760 milligrams per kilometer. So like 800 times higher. And this is the big thing here. 39 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,360 The average weight of all cars has been increasing but there has been particular debate over whether 40 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,960 battery electric vehicles which are heavier than conventional cars and can have greater wheel torque 41 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,320 may lead to more tire particles being produced. Bolden said it would depend on driving style 42 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,760 with gentle EV drivers producing fewer particles than fossil fuel cars driven badly. Though on 43 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:12,000 average he expected slightly higher tire particles from electric vehicles. Interesting take on that 44 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,040 because supposedly an electric car is supposed to be better for the environment but if it's all 45 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:24,000 coming from the tires. But they're not measuring um co2 going into the atmosphere as a uh as a 46 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,760 pollutant per se. Yeah. Like these are other pollutants to the environment. Without that 47 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:37,520 though as well on the side of tires as well that batteries are supposed to be worse for the 48 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:46,480 environment than just a regular car or the electric cars. Yeah. Lithiums are great. Oh. So yeah. 49 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,720 A few things against it right there. But yeah that's not even something we really talked about 50 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,920 in that episode was the fact that cars are getting heavier and larger which means there is more wear 51 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:03,440 coming off the tires and they're a very lowly regulated industry. Oh I had no idea that tires 52 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:09,600 even from I mean I know you're not supposed to stop obviously from our episode but that's crazy. I 53 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,240 had no idea. But yeah with that the world's a sadder place so let's talk about something 54 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:23,280 funner. Cue music. Let's go to the episode. From the unexplained to the mundane why don't you come 55 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:32,480 join us on our journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe where we 56 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,400 metaphorically take you to see normal's freak babies. You know the ones who's paying alimony 57 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,560 to them under the table. They live in the next state over and its spouse doesn't know about them. 58 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:49,760 We are your purveyors of normalcy filth Taylor and Chelsea. Speaking of freak babies talking about 59 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:59,440 one David Wilcock. That's a beautiful tie in. He is a freak baby. If you're not tuned in to the UFO 60 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,200 community or the alternative science community you may not know this man's name. However there 61 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,640 is a definite reason and linearness to the episodes that we've been doing the last little while. 62 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:18,160 Setting up to get to this point. This man actually a weird cosmological sort of way is the entire 63 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:24,080 reason this podcast came about. It is a weird cosmological way. Yeah we just wanted to shit on 64 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,760 people we did not like in the UFO community. He's one of the top on the list. He is top on the list 65 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,280 and it is that hatred for him that uh really brought us about to where we are now. So you 66 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:40,240 have this man to thank. If he did bring one good thing into the universe it is this podcast episode. 67 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,320 Yeah so in the end just go thank him for that. He born the podcast. Thank you for that and now 68 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,920 it's gonna take a turn I think. I mean we're gonna see. Maybe not. Okay we'll see. We're gonna 69 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,200 distinctly break this up into a two-part episode. There is the portion that I will be doing today. 70 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:03,760 This is David Wilcock, his life, what we know about him up to a very particular point in both 71 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,760 the world and his life that you all do understand why we chose this point to separate the before 72 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:16,640 and afters and then Chelsea will be taking over to see what becomes of this monstrosity known as 73 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,960 the David Wilcock timeline. Freak baby and from that very specific time point as well. Now I do 74 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,240 need to take one really quick break because I am out of alcohol and I have to listen to David 75 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Wilcock talk for several minutes in this episode and you cannot do that without alcohol. Oh no. 76 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,680 No. Let's take a fiver. I'll be right back but we need alcohol for this part. Okay I'm loaded. 77 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Well not yet. I just have alcohol. Okay I am back. We are good to go. Did you hear that dog barking? 78 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:53,040 I did hear it bark a little bit in your intro. Maybe I should go close the door. Go yell at it. 79 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:02,560 You fucker. Okay hold on a second. Okay bad news I can't close the door so I'll just mute myself. 80 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:10,160 You should have just yelled at the dog. Hey shut the fuck up. Without further ado we are going to 81 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:16,480 be talking about the mushroom-cutted individual known as David Wilcock. Now he doesn't even have 82 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,720 the haircut like that anymore. Well he rose to fame in the 90s so it makes a lot of sense. He just 83 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:31,120 keeps going with it though it works for him. Sure so I'm I'm going to talk a little bit about his 84 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:39,280 rise to fame kind of how it all came about. Then we're going to move to his self-written biography. 85 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,440 We're going to talk about a few interviews he's done and we're going to talk about some of his 86 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,960 science in this episode. So Chelsea I have a very loose idea of what this episode's going to look 87 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,000 like. I'm okay with that. If you have any questions or anything you want to talk about while we're 88 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,680 going through it feel free I might just stop you if I say it comes up in a bit. Okay. But we can 89 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:05,040 make this a little more open of an episode. Okay I agree with that. That's totally where my notes 90 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,520 are taking me as well and when you said that it reminded me of another Dumb and Dumber quote 91 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:17,920 when the police officer is like you pumpkin pie haircut and freak. Oh what a show. I know a quote 92 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:24,880 for everything in life I tell you. Okay thank you for that input and like that input we're going to 93 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:31,440 talk about a lot of words that David Volcock has written. He started kind of in the alternative 94 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:39,600 science psychic world in about 1936 to 1999. He really started his own website in 1999. It was 95 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,920 called ascension2000.com. You can't find this website anymore it's not up. You can get to it 96 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,800 through the way back machine but it no longer exists. If you go to ascension2000.com it is an 97 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:56,320 entirely different website now. It seems to intentionally have much of its information 98 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,640 tried to be removed from the internet and it makes sense. We're going to get into it a bit. 99 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Oh I love it. Okay. And this is where I had no idea this guy just so we need to get this out of 100 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,680 the way right now because it comes up a ton. He thinks he's the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. 101 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,880 Simple as that. It's going to come up a lot and I always found it so confusing because he is not 102 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,240 known as like a seer or a prophet really. He's more known like his most famous thing that he's 103 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,600 ever done was he was on ancient aliens for a couple seasons. Yeah that's probably where 104 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,160 most people would know him from just like the lay person. You see that guy on ancient aliens 105 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,840 you're like okay why does he keep talking about how he's Edgar Cayce? Well if you go back to the 106 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:45,840 very start of his internet era he was writing down his dreams as if they were their premonitions of 107 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:53,840 the future and he did them as in like question answer style like Edgar Cayce did. What? Like how 108 00:10:53,840 --> 00:11:00,960 the hypnotist would ask him questions? Yes but it was just it was him asking questions to someone 109 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:07,680 in his dream who was answering them for him. I mean I could do that. Yeah so he does these 110 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:13,120 there's thousands of them on this webpage basically of him talking about his dreams and what they were 111 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,840 prophesizing and boy is there a reason he doesn't want a lot of these up there. Like the last one of 112 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:26,320 1999 that has a note right at the top some people may not ever be able to access the internet again 113 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:32,800 after the Y2K rollover date as we do have readers in many foreign countries all over the world and 114 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:39,440 there are wide discrepancies in levels of compliance both within the U.S. and Canada area and abroad. 115 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,960 Therefore we hope that you receive this in time to put it at the end of the book if you have been 116 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,640 printing these readings as they go along. For those of you who still have power and telephone 117 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,840 access to the net we will continue to post readings providing that the telephone services 118 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,880 everything here in Virginia Beach and servers in Los Angeles, California are functioning properly. 119 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,720 This contingency assures us that no one reading these articles is left with an unfinished body of 120 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:13,200 work. Casey never got to do this so in one sense we have quite the privilege here. How old was he 121 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:20,960 at this point do we know? He was born in 73 so he's about 26 so he's his mid-20s. Interesting 122 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:27,120 interesting that he wants to do that 26. I also want to make a point just asking here as far as 123 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,320 him thinking he's Edgar Casey I mean he very well may think he's Edgar Casey is one thing but 124 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:40,240 the feeling that I get for him and maybe I should hold my comments is that he's more just using this 125 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,520 to gain the footing that he's wanting. At the beginning what he was trying to do too is be this 126 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,400 prophetic individual. We're going to talk about it a bit more and the greatest one that he could think 127 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,520 of was Edgar Casey and he's living in Virginia Beach at the time so he really tries to glob on 128 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,640 to that image. Yeah and I don't know if you're going to talk about this so just tell me to shut 129 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:09,600 up if you do. Oh boy we are. I watched you know just to refresh myself a little bit. There's so 130 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:15,200 much he put like the guy is full of himself and he just keeps talking as you may already know or 131 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,480 you're gonna find out if not I just told you. His setup and everything is that he is reincarnated 132 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Edgar Casey so in the interview I watch with him his like nice little setup he takes a picture of 133 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Edgar Casey and puts his portrait that looks like he's trying to impersonate that photo in that photo. 134 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:40,720 He is and all of the pictures that he has are deliberately put in the same tone in the same 135 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,400 shadows and then he goes through all the people he knows and specifically takes who looks most 136 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:52,640 like this person in Edgar Casey's life so he goes through a slideshow of people and then he puts 137 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:58,480 his friends up next to him being like they're all the reincarnation of Edgar Casey's friends like 138 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,720 we are all the same soul group and I just find it kind of comedic that he went through all the trouble 139 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:11,200 of finding these photos and then finding photos of his friends to replicate like what they look 140 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:18,080 like in the photos that he chose to put up there like prove his point like yes it's me. And when 141 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,600 you see him making this comparison that he's Edgar Casey reincarnate which first off doesn't matter 142 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:29,360 if you look the same in reincarnation that is not how reincarnation works at least as far as I 143 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,680 understand it like maybe I'm off because reincarnation is a weird thing that may or 144 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,120 may not actually exist there's no science to back it up but as far as I can tell you can be 145 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,120 reincarnated according to Buddhism as a bug so is that bug gonna look like Edgar Casey? Probably not 146 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:52,560 but he's always using the same photo too it's just one photo that he compares it to. The one photo that he 147 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,240 like looks I'll say like yeah okay it kind of looks like him but there's a million other 148 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,080 photos of Edgar Casey and David Wilcock in which they look nothing the same but that's one of his 149 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,360 things where he just really nails it to be like this is just another thing and people who are 150 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:16,160 already taken in by it or like that is him that look at that picture that is Edgar Casey. Yeah and 151 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:22,480 to finish that rant off as well he doesn't look like him in that photo like if you compare features 152 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,720 the features aren't the same at all. No they're not but he has the colors the same and everything 153 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,000 the same so that it just kind of if you quickly look at it you're like okay yeah I've never seen 154 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,840 Edgar Casey before and this guy has a weird haircut and a big forehead and he's also in Virginia 155 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Beach so it must be him. Yeah that is why he does the Edgar Casey thing though because he's trying 156 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,760 to market himself early on as kind of a prophet the seer and he tried to take that persona of Edgar 157 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Casey early on. Boy does it not last though. Other things that he quoted or has quotes of that he 158 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,240 predicts will happen this I found it's a great video on YouTube by a YouTuber by the name of 159 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Truth Be Told all one word B is the letter B. I like it. Posted by David Wilcock on his website 160 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:16,240 on February 23rd 1999. I don't know whether this will be the big one or just a major quake what I 161 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,600 do know what we are heading into is truly beyond description our bodies will be transformed into 162 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:27,200 light and as I explained in the book there is a full scientific explanation for how when and why 163 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,520 this will happen and just in case you have no idea what he's talking about when he talks about that 164 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,360 date it's on the website Ascension 2000 so he's got an idea of when this is all gonna happen. Oh 165 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,280 it's 2000. Yeah at first at first yes. Okay I was just gonna say we don't have access to this website 166 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,240 anymore because we don't have the way back machine. We do have the way back machine. Oh we do. Yes I 167 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:54,480 I've gone on the website it's weird. Okay. And the much like all 90s websites were. I was just gonna 168 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,760 say did it look like did it have like flashing like. Didn't have anything flashing it was just 169 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:07,280 very nondescript in a lot of spots. Now next quote from April 21st 99. Lastly there is again a 170 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,000 repeated reference to the upcoming Ascension event here on the planet. We need to realize that this 171 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,000 is not speculation but fact. I have written a comprehensive book called Convergence from a 172 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,680 largely scientific standpoint that gives definitive proof that this Ascension event is really going 173 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,360 to happen. And in Convergence chapter one of the book he wrote why do we somehow know that we are 174 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:35,040 indeed about to experience something so fantastic as to be the single greatest moment of all time. 175 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:42,000 We will demonstrate that the 1999 to 2000 Ascension vortex is the result of all dimensions 176 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,760 in the solar system operating through large approximately 25 000 year cycles. So that's his 177 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,440 start. Also when you're on the Ascension webpage I picked a random date to kind of go in. I think 178 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:59,440 it was around the year 2001. No sorry it was after the year 2005. He's got some interesting stuff on 179 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:06,320 there. Top of the page right here Mayan Ascension cruise with David Wilcock November 5th to 12th 180 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:15,840 2005. $999. Yes call now for the best spots and make 2012 come alive today by going to the exact 181 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:23,440 sites where it all happened. The calendar, the pyramids, the mystery, the grid vortexes. Be there 182 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:34,720 to experience it with David firsthand in 2005. But that's not all. We set sail in Tampa Florida on 183 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:41,600 day one then have another complete day at sea with full-on lectures and Q&As with David. By the way 184 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,880 emphasis added because he puts an exclamation mark after David a lot. So at this point is he popular? 185 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:53,520 I don't think he is. I don't think he has much of a following at this point. This is after his first 186 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,680 appearances on coast to coast so I think he has started to get the popularity and he is milking 187 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,920 it hard. Oh yeah he's hosting a cruise. That's the next big step. Day three we hit Georgetown 188 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:15,920 on the magnificent tropical Grand Cayman Island. Why? No idea. You know because this is a great Mayan 189 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:22,800 ruins. This is a great Mayan ruins. No that's it. That's it. Grand Cayman Island. Day four we visit 190 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:28,800 the ruins, jungles, and beaches at Costa Maya Mexico. Okay kind of tied in even though who 191 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:36,080 fucking knows what ruins. Day five see the rainforest gorgeous coastline in stunning 192 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,760 ruins of Belize City. Day six snorkel in the fantastic coastal reefs of Cozumal 193 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:51,440 and explore the relics. I don't know. I wonder if this cruise sold out. Probably not. I mean it 194 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:57,040 could have but like who was there with him on his portion of the cruise. And then day seven we sail 195 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:05,120 the seas with David as we cap off a stunning week of discovery. Return home tanned rested and ready 196 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:16,720 for 2012. On the eighth day ask anyone from our family who just journeyed to Egypt with us. 197 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:22,080 This will change your life. So they just did an Egypt trip too. Okay this is what year again? 198 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:28,640 2005. Okay ready to take on 2012. You're tanned and ready for 2012. 199 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,080 And then he has the he has the travel agent's name and phone number right after that. 200 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:43,760 So I'm gonna skip that. The next thing after that is just as great. Beyond the Da Vinci code on April 201 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,480 23rd this weekend. Click on the flyer to blow up the details for our first of the two events. 202 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,800 And this is my favorite part of the entire thing. Right next to the new living expo in San Francisco 203 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:02,720 he is too cheap to pay to attend or host a booth at the new living expo. He's hosting beside it. 204 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Okay so he didn't have that big of a following at this cruise. See I don't know I don't know if he's 205 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,200 trying to grift off it or if he got asked and he's like nah and then he did something right next to 206 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:26,240 it or if he asked if he could and they said no. But I love that. I do love that. Right next to the 207 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,800 new living expo in San Francisco. Just going off of it maybe he wasn't invited and he wanted to 208 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:41,520 like he was. Yeah. Like he was a part of it. That's the only reason you would do that. Make you 209 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,640 seem like you're a part of it. You also won't want to miss our fully catered day-long event with 210 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,880 David in Larkspur, California on Saturday April 30th. We begin where the other talks left off 211 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:59,280 and launch into even grander mysteries and truths including direct experiential practices of higher 212 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,720 consciousness and readings from never before revealed secret mystery school texts left to 213 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:12,880 David by a dying old woman who needed to keep the sacred fire burning. What? What fucking old woman? 214 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:20,320 What fucking nose? But I just had to include that one because he didn't pay for the booth. 215 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,760 I was just gonna say, if there's another event he hosted right next to, I have to ask was there any 216 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,440 mention of the band on the cruise? No but we're gonna get to that. Okay. Yeah. I'm glad we're 217 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,160 gonna get to it but I'm like where why wasn't there mention of the band? I don't get that. I 218 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,560 was actually worried because like we talked about when we were doing the research here it really 219 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:46,240 seems like a lot of David Wilcox stuff has been scrubbed from the internet. Like he keeps a very 220 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:53,280 specific persona online and I was worried because I could not find many reference any references to 221 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,040 his band which I always thought was we listened to a lot of this his stuff growing up in our early 222 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:05,360 20s at just out of high school and you just take it for what it is but the greatest most hilarious 223 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:11,920 part was every interview he did referenced his band. Yeah which is the most hilarious thing if 224 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,040 you'll go back and listen to our Eggie. And sorry everybody if you haven't done it when we're talking 225 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,880 about the Edgar Cayce appearance pause now or just continue listening to us and go on google 226 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:30,400 and look up what David Wilcox looks like. He does not look like a rock star in any sense of the word. 227 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,760 To be fair we've never actually listened to the band we don't know that he is a rock star he might 228 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:42,400 just play the clarinet. And here is the shittiest thing I found the name of the album that he put 229 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:52,080 out like when he was big it's not on Spotify. What? Yeah like in the 2000 to 2010. This is shocking 230 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,360 information to me right now actually because all he did was talk about his band at one point. 231 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:01,840 So that's what I wanted to bring you guys from the Ascension 2000 website. It does get shut down 232 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:07,200 right around the time that we're talking about about 2005 and David starts a new website called 233 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,520 Divine Cosmos. Man there's some gems on Divine Cosmos that we're going to get to because that 234 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,480 is where he wrote his biography. It is still up to this day his bio has not been updated since 2006. 235 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,960 That doesn't surprise me. But around this time too this is where David Wilcox gets introduced 236 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:34,400 into I don't know what you would call it but kind of that mainstream UFO community professional or 237 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:40,320 expert because in 2004 he has his first appearance on Coast to Coast AM. For those of you that don't 238 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:47,280 know what Coast to Coast AM is it's a three hour AM radio show that is hosted between I believe 239 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,840 it's 10 p.m to 1 a.m pacific or like 1 a.m to 4 a.m eastern standard time. It's hosted by George 240 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Norrie. I think it's widely considered to kind of be once you get on that show you kind of get 241 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:06,080 into the pipeline of the obscure and the UFO community and the all science stuff. Pretty much it's probably one of the most 242 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:12,240 mainstream. And it's the entry point to where you kind of start to make it big and I put big in quotation 243 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,480 marks because these guys don't make a ton of money. No they don't and I know the first place 244 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:24,560 we probably heard of David Wilcox was I think my first interview I watched with him was Project Camelot. 245 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Forgot about those guys. Yeah they do a lot of interviews with whistleblowers and stuff like that. 246 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:41,120 They're a lot less credential worried Linda Moulton Howe type thing. A lot less, way less like none at all probably. 247 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,320 In 2004 he finally gets his break on Coast to Coast AM and I don't know how this relationship kind of started 248 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:55,200 but he is on the episode with Richard C. Hoagland and Richard C. Hoagland kind of introduces him to 249 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,280 this community. If you don't know who Richard C. Hoagland is don't worry about it we might do an 250 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,480 episode on him in the future. He kind of falls into this group as well. He's very famous within 251 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,640 the community for kind of being the first person to say Cydonia on Mars has secret Mars bases 252 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:17,920 that NASA's operating off of and there's a secret space program which is kind of I think where he 253 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:24,080 got his move into the secret space program aliens things from there. I believe he does have a tie-in 254 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,160 and then his work changes once he gets in with Richard Hoagland from what I read. Yeah exactly 255 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:36,080 exactly so that happened on May 15th 2004 he's on Coast to Coast apparently it goes great because on 256 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:44,560 June 23rd 2004 he has his second Coast to Coast episode and this one is called Casey's Reincarnation 257 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:51,040 and the entire episode is just about how David Wilcock is a reincarnation of Edgar Casey. The 258 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:59,040 fact that him and another guy wrote a book how he is Edgar Casey. I'm surprised did we ever look into 259 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,560 did you look into whether or not he's accepted as the reincarnation of Edgar Casey through the 260 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:12,960 the Institute of I don't think he is no I don't think he is either but I didn't look for sure we 261 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,640 can confirm that for the next episode. Okay let's do that I'm gonna make a note right now. Unfortunately 262 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Coast to Coast Chelsea got rid of her subscription a few years ago because George Norrie went crazy. 263 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,280 I did I was an avid listener to Coast to Coast AM and I got rid of it about two and a half years 264 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,880 ago I was like I'm not paying for this BS anymore and you can't find the actual episodes anymore 265 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,840 from a particular period so unfortunately I thought I had lost a bunch of these episodes 266 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:46,480 and wouldn't be able to hear them but David Wilcock has so much narcissism and an ego that 267 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,760 needs to be fed that he put the transcript up on his website. Of course he did. This is a bit of 268 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,600 the story that happens actually my favorite part of the entire thing I just need to find it really 269 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,640 quick. If you haven't gotten it right now David Wilcock I don't know if I should be putting this 270 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,600 here like Taylor just said has a huge ego about himself. Yeah that's our opinion based on the 271 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,320 evidence that we've been reading I think and our whole life experience of hearing him talk. Yeah 272 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,040 we've listened we've I've listened to quite a bit of David Wilcock then it got old because I was 273 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:27,440 like I can't hear this guy talk about himself anymore. Yeah so the other guy just so we're on 274 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,120 the same page the other guy who wrote the story our Edgar Cayce book with David Wilcock his name 275 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,760 is Wynn. So there's three people there's George Norrie there's Wynn and there's David Wilcock in 276 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,560 this conversation and I absolutely love this quote this George Norrie and that's going to go into 277 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Wynn. Now Wynn at the time did David believe that he might be the reincarnated Edgar Cayce had that 278 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,200 come up yet? Wynn well the implication on his website was that he believed that. I don't remember 279 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,600 if he said it outright. It was such an outrageous thing to say and David was just so concerned 280 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,480 about people thinking that he was trying to draw attention to himself or being self-aggrandizing. 281 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,440 So he presented the case and talked about David Wilcock Edgar Cayce connection and I believe the 282 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,120 way he presented it was that there was a soul resonance between the two some kind of vocabulary 283 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:24,000 like that. Like I just love well he never said it he just has it all over his website. 284 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,240 And that's good enough for me. Yeah but no so humble to not say it what a guy. 285 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Okay now this one's a bit longer of a quote from the story or the interview sorry. George okay let's 286 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,080 jump over to Wynn for a second. So Wynn as you were deciding with David to put this book together 287 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,600 the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce with a question mark because nobody can prove it 100% 288 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,800 that came up earlier in the interview. I just had to add that and I notice you both have a question 289 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,360 mark at the oh no sorry it's right here I'm gonna get into it and I notice you both have a question 290 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,160 mark at the end of it. Why are you not just making it a definitive statement? Why the question mark? 291 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Wynn well you know there's no way to absolutely prove anything. People don't even believe that 292 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,720 reincarnation exists. So it was my thought that putting the question mark there allows a person 293 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,320 to look at the case. Basically I presented the case in the book. I was the one who was investigating 294 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,640 it and I revealed how it came to me how David had to be Cayce. So I let the readers follow my own 295 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,200 track of unfoldment to see if it made sense to them rather than saying it was just so. It's an 296 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:40,160 enormous thing to say. I just love that he put the question mark there. It's kind of like a I've got 297 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:46,960 no liability. Yeah like no I didn't say it. I inflected question at the end. I'm asking you. 298 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,000 I'm actually asking David Wilcox who was implying that he's Edgar Cayce. 299 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,640 One of the things I wanted to bring up that David didn't cover there was that the way this actually 300 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,760 unfolded for David was quite striking in that it actually fulfilled a prophecy of Edgar Cayce. 301 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,920 George here. And what was that? Wynn. Well to go back David was living in New Paltz New York. 302 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,880 He had graduated college and he was into metaphysics and had been recording his dreams 303 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:23,440 since 1992 and he added things in the middle of this transcript to make it make sense to him. 304 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,560 I don't understand what this means. Recording his dreams. Bracket since 1992, comma in 1996. 305 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:39,280 He fucking did that. Yeah. Yeah. End bracket. He had a conversation with Joe Mason and then he 306 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,960 asked Joe Mason's website right there who was telling him about how he would hear his dream 307 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:52,320 voice. Again in brackets. When he woke up in the morning. In brackets. That night. Bracket. 308 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:58,880 In brackets. As with all other nights. Over the last four years. Close bracket. David. 309 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Close bracket. And put. Close bracket. A pad by his pad to record his dreams. 310 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,280 And when night's over that last dreams. Sorry. 311 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:24,960 Why did he do that? Yeah. It's an interview. And when he woke up. Bracket. Something different 312 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:32,000 was happening. Close bracket. There were. Bracket now. Things that were communicated to him. Bracket. 313 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Just like the dream voice that Mason had described the night before. Bracket. And then the ass has 314 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:46,080 to go here. David Nusser's talking. Yeah. I heard Joe Mason's voice when I woke up in the morning. 315 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Just like when we were talking on the phone the night before. They were mostly nonsense sentences. 316 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,960 But what I did was just rigorously document them exactly as I was hearing them. Mason had taught me 317 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,920 to wake up, remain motionless, and if. Sorry. Again. Bracket. Mason had taught me to wake up, 318 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,360 remain motionless, and if. Wow. You can still remember new details from your dream. You 319 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:16,480 document all the garbage noise of the subconscious mind. Dot dot dot. What most people think of as 320 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,480 imagination or daydreaming. That becomes the data which you don't read and understand until 321 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,560 you finish the whole process and return to normal conscious. He doesn't close that bracket. 322 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:40,880 He edited the fucking interview. Yeah. Oh no. Sorry. You know what? I'm just gonna skip. He does close the bracket in four paragraphs. 323 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:50,000 In four paragraphs. So we're just gonna skip to George. So sorry. There were five paragraphs here 324 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:58,160 of what David's response was. And this is what he actually said. This is what he said in the interview. 325 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:04,080 Yeah. I heard Joe Mason's voice when I woke up in the morning. Just like we were talking on the phone 326 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,120 the night before. They were mostly nonsense sentences. But what I did was to just rigorously 327 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,560 document them exactly as I was hearing them. That's it. And then his five paragraphs. Yeah. 328 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,560 I don't see him. Yeah. 329 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,920 Okay. And even he edits George. Which I understand we've all wanted to do it. But come on. 330 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:36,400 Oh I can't even. This is hilarious. George, do you remember writing bracket these sentences 331 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:42,560 bracket down during the night? Because apparently somebody would be confused if they just heard 332 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:49,200 George at this point say do you remember writing that down during the night? I can't. I can't. 333 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:58,000 This is hilarious. Yeah. David responding to that. Yeah. I just had no idea what the content was. 334 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,360 After I had read through the second time I noticed that I'd said you should visit the pyramids of 335 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:10,400 Chichen Itza. You can go there with your mind. As soon as I read that bracket line bracket the phone 336 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,680 started ringing. I picked it up and it was this guy I met at a UFO conference saying hey do you 337 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:24,160 want to go to a seminar on astral projection? George bracket. Chuckles closes brackets. Ha ha ha ha ha. 338 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,240 I just I don't know what to do with that. 339 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:42,320 Ha ha ha. David it was like being in the matrix when your computer starts talking to you you know. 340 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,920 George well yeah and we all know what it's like to be in that. This is for you. That's a George 341 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:59,040 Norrie response of underage. Yeah that is. He's not listening. This is for you Wyn. As the 342 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,000 investigator here what proof did David bring forth for you to start saying I think he may be 343 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,800 Edgar Cayce reincarnate? Question mark. Well George it wasn't really that much. He put it on his website. 344 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Yep Wyn. Well to continue the track I had started on David was writing down these sentence fragments. 345 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,480 He would keep a record of them and many of them are on his website and he did put it in here 346 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,320 ascension2000.com. Right now anyone can go look and there's a section where he has his readings 347 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,520 and he has documented all of the best he could do. I hope someone has it printed somewhere. It's 348 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,200 again it's on the way back machine you can go look at it all. It is rambling nonsense. Yeah it sounds 349 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:45,200 like it really just even by this on divine cosmos it's so this is rambling nonsense but what 350 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,160 credentials does Wyn have to write this or is he just like a hired person to help write his book? 351 00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:00,080 Yeah. Like a ghost writer. Wyn wrote for a metaphysics magazine he said and he has no 352 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:07,440 actual background in writing books. No background like what? No he said he's more comfortable 353 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,280 jamming and writing small snippets but he wrote a book with David Wilcox. Why are we taking him as 354 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,560 a person to say whether or not he agrees if he's Edgar Cayce? I mean he said himself he just put a 355 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,800 question mark so we could leave it up to us. Okay well let's keep going because this is the story 356 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,960 that proves it's Edgar Cayce. Okay so we got to get to that. I'm ready. Now remember this is directly 357 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:38,160 for Wyn. It was George Norrie said Wyn answer this question. Okay so Wyn starts going. Wyn has 358 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,120 another part George says something it's of no consequence which I guess I could have edited 359 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,160 George out if that's my conditions on why I'm going to say George's lines but then we wouldn't 360 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,680 get the chuckle ha ha ha so you know take what you get. That was an important part of the interview 361 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,120 I think. So Wyn continues. So after a period of time he would get a sentence that would prophesy 362 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,560 something in his future that was quite specific and it would happen. Now the prophecy was always 363 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,440 a bit cryptic where you couldn't understand it before it happened but after it happened it became 364 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:15,280 obvious that wherever these sentences were coming from they knew something that was going to happen 365 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,720 for David. One of the ones that is in the book was quotation. You're going to get a three by 366 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:26,160 eleven sheet paper on Friday at 8 30 and that was on Wednesday I believe that he got that. 367 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,360 David now has to chime in. I actually have that original recording queued up and ready to play 368 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,880 if you guys want to hear it. George yeah how long is that David? It's about 11 seconds. Okay yeah 369 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,880 yeah get it ready. David I'm standing by. George continue if you will Wyn. Do we have this recording 370 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,280 that we can roll? I don't fucking know. So on Friday morning David got a traffic ticket at 8 30 am. 371 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,560 George Norrie laughs. Three inches by 11 inches right? Laughs. Wyn yeah David that was pretty 372 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,360 much what broke the shell and made me say okay I better start taking this seriously. 373 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,240 George okay well we'd better listen to the tape so let's play it here we go. 374 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:15,680 David all right hang on a sec here we go. George okay David parentheses from a tape in a whisper 375 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:22,000 with audible cuts after each sentence which I love that he put that there's cuts. Of course he did. 376 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:30,480 Which it implies he edited this. Oh my god it does. I didn't even think about that. And this 377 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,240 is what the audio says. My gift to the world will be a three inch by eleven sheet of paper 378 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:41,840 expected on Friday. This runs counter to earlier systems of thought. We can work on visual sites 379 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:48,240 90 minutes till 10. Was that audible? George well it was in the beginning which is fine. 380 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:53,600 Now is that your voice? Yeah in the beginning. That's David. I couldn't get enough energy going 381 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,640 through me to get a speaking voice. I could only get a whisper. So this came through and I thought 382 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,240 okay my gift to the world will be a three inch by eleven sheet of paper. Expect it on Friday 90 383 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,720 minutes until 10. It just was more garbage. Like a lot of the other stuff coming through. A lot of 384 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:15,840 it didn't make any sense at all. So what are you going to do with it? Just say well forget it. 385 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:22,480 Yeah if everything else is garbage you're going to chalk it up to survivorship bias. Like that's 386 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,120 literally it. And sorry that was what I added. And oh my god just this last part here. Then when I 387 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,560 rear end someone on the highway and the officer writes me a ticket and it's 8 30 and it's Friday 388 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:42,480 all of a sudden it all just came crashing in brackets pun intended close bracket. Oh my god 389 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,720 okay I'm not even getting into the pun intended but his gift to the world is a fucking speeding 390 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:55,280 ticket. Yes. Interesting that that's the world a fine that he has to pay. And then George having 391 00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:01,200 made the most astute observation of his entire interview career says yeah but that doesn't mean 392 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:11,680 you're Edgar Casey. That has to be the smartest thing he said. It's the most astute observation 393 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:18,720 he uh he ever made. And David Wilcock has made the obse transcribe this onto his website hopefully 394 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:24,400 with an embellishment or that was just it. Yeah David did respond to that and say oh gosh no 395 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:30,000 George. So somewhere along the line when you began to dot the i's and cross the t's and you said hey 396 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,280 there's a connection here what was it? When well after a year of David doing these kinds of sentence 397 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,640 fragments and then he started dictating it into a tape recorder and dictating page after page of his 398 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,480 incredible wisdom I knew from talking to David that he could not tap into that directly. David again 399 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,400 question directed at when David let's just clarify that by saying that the oblique and mysterious 400 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,160 quality of the words in the beginning was a function of my lack of tuning. As I worked on this more it 401 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,880 got to the point that it became a lot more eloquent and free-flowing and actually made sense. Bracket 402 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:12,720 laughs close bracket. Yes which we definitely are doing David. Good on you. When so after a year 403 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:18,160 David's dream voice he called it he called it his dream voice asked him to move to Virginia Beach. 404 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,560 George the voice we just heard that that's your dream voice David right when right he called it 405 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,200 a dream voice and so that's when David moved to Virginia Beach and of course people were looking 406 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,800 at him and identifying him as looking like Casey. Then I found out that Casey had made a prophecy 407 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,960 which would be interpreted to mean that he was going to return in 1998 and be in Virginia Beach. 408 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,920 Here is the prophecy that Casey made and I will read it directly verbatim. So I'm sure we're going 409 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,760 to get from his. Also I just really want to point out at this point he does not say he paid that 410 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,520 part that ticket. I am guessing that he just skipped town to another state over so that he 411 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,040 doesn't have to pay the ticket. Love it he went to Virginia Beach so he didn't have to pay the ticket. 412 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,600 You know what when you're reading this it just sounds so much better than I assume this interview 413 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,600 ever sounded. Oh it's all the ads David Wilcock really streamlined this down to what it is. 414 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,600 Yeah he really did so that we could get right down to the core of it with the cuts and everything 415 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:27,600 for the editing on his audio. Yeah so Wynn goes into the prophecy that Edgar Casey gave. Keeping 416 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:35,280 in mind there are definitely brackets in here definitely brackets. I assumed as much at this 417 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:43,600 point. Wynn he didn't refer to Casey he referred to bracket Casey's past life as bracket Ra Ta. 418 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,720 Is it not fitting then that these bracket a reference to Ra Ta and his associates closed 419 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:54,320 bracket must return as his priest may develop himself to be in that position to be in that 420 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,920 capacity of a liberator of the world in a capacity to individuals in those periods to come for he 421 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:07,360 must enter again in that period or in 1998. I like those options in that period or 1998. 422 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,320 Whatever one fits the prophecy the most. And then there was a book I found called many happy returns 423 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:23,040 by William Church where Church said brackets Casey closed brackets had a dream where he saw himself 424 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,320 in back in West Virginia surrounded by many of those who had been with him at an earlier time. 425 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Now David's relationship with his dream voice had gotten much much more sophisticated after that 426 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:39,200 initial fragment that you just heard. George all right well hold that thought Wynn. We'll be right 427 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:44,400 back with you and David as we are leading up to now to why Wynn made a decision that he believes 428 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,920 that David Wilcox is indeed Edgar Casey reincarnate and we're going to find out from David what made 429 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,600 him believe that he was. I mean just you just don't wake up in the morning and say I think I 430 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,880 was Edgar Casey. I'm George Norrie and we'll be back on Coast to Coast AM. I just I had to finish 431 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,760 it that way. You do look like George Norrie. Thank you because you do need that that is George Norrie's 432 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:12,160 tried and true. Is that going into break? He is tried and true. That's that and making old people feel good. 433 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:19,280 Okay here's where I'm at in this. Okay first of all I think he took such a bizarre career path 434 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:26,240 to wake up however many years old and be like I'm gonna milk being Edgar Casey for all I fucking can 435 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:31,760 right now and I'm gonna go somewhere with this and look where he is now. Well you'll see in the next 436 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:40,800 episode but I'm fairly confident based on this interview that I could hire a ghost writer and 437 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:50,080 I could start writing down my dreams and I could be like in 2023 or sometime I'll be in Virginia Beach. 438 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:55,360 Do you think I can take it from him that I'm the new reincarnation of Edgar Casey not him? I mean 439 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:01,520 you got to find the 1998 attachments maybe. I actually think it would be pretty easy. I think 440 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,080 I could take it from him very easily. I think I could give him a run for his money and I could be 441 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:12,160 like David fucking Wilcox not the reincarnation of Edgar Casey. I think I might be. Look at these 442 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:17,680 dreams that I'm having. Oh yeah and you can literally just make a tape recording the day 443 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,120 after everything had just happened and say I'm gonna say these in weird fancy ways without any 444 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:28,240 way of proving the day that I said these to say that oh yeah I prophesized this. Yeah. Pretty easy. 445 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:35,920 Art in the cuts in my audio that I'm gonna write out in the transcript cut. Yeah why did he write 446 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,720 that? But it's seeming to me fairly simple like I could pretty easily, what's the word that I'm 447 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:48,960 looking for, challenge him on this that I'm the reincarnation of Edgar Casey. Well and honestly I 448 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,840 bet you there's a lot more photos of Edgar Casey where you look a lot more like him than David 449 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,680 Wilcox does. That is so true and I could go out and get a speeding ticket tomorrow if I wanted to. 450 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,240 Well it sounds like you're right in the back of a car. It does not sound like you got a speeding ticket. 451 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,240 And then again jump state. 452 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:19,440 Like I could I wouldn't want to ram the back of a car but I could get a speeding ticket. Oh my god. 453 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:28,320 So at that point I just love that interview and the fact that yes he is self-aggrandizing 454 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:34,000 so much to the point that he has to he thinks doubt on who's reading it and he has to fill in 455 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,600 an interview with things that he's like my readers aren't gonna get this. I think it did a lot of 456 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:46,000 justice actually because David Wilcox I don't even know that I would describe him as having charisma. 457 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,480 It's different having you read it to listen to him in an interview because he has such a huge ego 458 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:58,000 and he loves to talk about himself that I think a lot of people are just taken in with how convinced 459 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:05,680 he is by himself. That they're like he must be. Hi Taylor here at Journey to the Fringe. Now I know 460 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,520 we promised that this would be a two-part episode however we were having too much fun and it turns 461 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,680 out this is actually going to be a four-part episode. Stay tuned for the second half of my 462 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,320 episode where we are going to discuss David Wilcox's autobiography and a few other things 463 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,760 and then after that stay tuned for two episodes of Chelsea discussing this guy. I do apologize 464 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,480 for a little lie up front but we are fully committed to a four-part episode. Thank you 465 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:36,720 very much we'll see you next time. Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. If you have 466 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:43,920 liked what you have listened to please like, share, subscribe, or follow depending on what venue you 467 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,840 are listening to us through. Also please if possible leave a five-star review as that really 468 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,960 helps us in the algorithms. Should you wish to interact with us please check us out on your 469 00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,240 social media of choice. 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