From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
us on a journey to the fringe. Journey to the
Fringe, where we are finishing off our dive into
Uri Geller and we left off Uri Geller kind of
just how his career went. I still don't fully
understand how it went that way and I don't think
we ever will because a lot of his career between
like 1980 to even now is locked behind CEO meeting
minutes. Okay. Yeah, no What we got left is I
got two things that we're gonna cover in this
episode Chelsea it's going to be friends He made
along the way that's beautiful and it's gonna
be either predictions or steps He's taken recently
where he's still in the news trying to make himself
a thing Yeah, he would have to well, I think
he's made quite a bit of money during his time,
but he's still he's a clout chaser He's a big
guy So let's talk about people he became friends
with or at least says he became friends with
him We're gonna stop number one chelsea with
my favorite spaniard. Who is it? Salvador Dali
interesting choice. I thought you're gonna say
someone else was it Continue so this is a quote
directly from him So, in New York we met many
times. On one occasion, Dolly was locked in a
bathroom at the St. Regis Hotel where he drew
the outline of a horse, and I drew an identical
outline from the outside. Oh my god. He made
me a gift of a crystal ball, which I made the
hood ornament of my Cadillac, covered in 3 ,000
bent spoons. He told me that the ball belonged
to Leonardo da Vinci. That's as much as the story
I want to go What kind of story is that? I mean,
it's a pretty good one. That's a pretty Oh, yeah,
Chelsea you googled origeller Cadillac. You're
gonna see that car. Okay, but so He drew the
same horse Salvador Dali did. Yeah, because Salvador
Dali was into the alternative and Uri Geller
wooed him. And that's how their relationship
began. Yeah, I'm looking for this Cadillac. What
the fuck is this? Oh, it's ugly as all. He drove
around in this? It's in his museum now. I have
no evidence he drove in it. Hold on, I gotta
put this in general. Yeah, that's his car. That's
actually a pretty bad picture of it too because
he can't oh just on the very left of it You can
see the part of the crystal ball. There's a crystal
ball. Oh, there it is Just the very left the
blurry part. Yeah, but in other pictures you
can see it. What an asshole Okay, next up John
Lennon Geller's celebrity circles in the early
1970s briefly included John Lennon. The two met
through the New York social scene and Lennon,
who was already interested in mysticism and unusual
experiences, was curious enough to let Geller
perform a few psychic demonstrations for him.
Their contact was limited, but Geller has repeated
the stories for decades, especially one in which
Lennon allegedly described a UFO encounter outside
his apartment and handed Geller a small metal
egg said to have come from the experience. Lennon
has never publicly confirmed these details, though
he did speak openly about seeing a UFO in New
York around the same time. The relationship appears
to have been very short -lived and mostly social,
but it became a durable part of Geller's mythology.
In later years, Geller positioned Lennon as another
high profile figure who validated his abilities,
while the available evidence suggests their connection
was brief and formal and remembered primarily
through Geller's retellings. yeah but somebody
who i know for sure they actually had a more
meaningful relationship chelsea michael jackson
okay but urri geller is like an adult oh yes
very much so an adult and actually this kind
of comes up in the story okay oh okay and this
one's gonna be long michael jackson urri geller
met in 1998 when jackson reached out to geller
after hearing him on the radio jackson was fascinated
by paranormal topics hypnosis and mind power
and Geller fit perfectly into that world. Two
bonded quickly and in March of 2001 Michael Jackson
actually becomes the best man at Geller's wedding.
No. So this is a direct quote from Uri Geller
on the day of his wedding. Many guests commented
that I seemed nervous and I was but not about
being married. Hannah and I had been together
30 years and I felt I was probably ready for
the commitment. What concerned me was a call
from an Israeli source, warning there might be
a terrorist attack on the wedding. I took the
warning very seriously and I engaged all precautions.
Scotland Yard referred me to a local police,
who in turn sent two policemen to discuss the
day. Some internationally famous people were
there, aside from Michael, the Formula One racing
champion Nigel Mansell, Sir David Frost, David
Stewart of the Eurythmics, the horror writer
James Herbert, Ditto's producer Youth, not to
mention an Israeli consul and the Japanese ambassador.
Any terrorist wanting to make a name for himself
need only open fire on the canvas walls of the
marquee with an automatic weapon. I just wanted
to include that because Michael Jackson was the
best man. Like he's a clout chaser. That was
a statement from Uri Geller. He's listing all
the celebrities at his wedding and saying that's
the thing that made him the most nervous. Yeah,
I just gathering from everything that you've
already covered so far, I can't even tell what's
true and what's not. of what you're actually
saying. But this part is confirmed. Michael Jackson
was the best man at his wedding. But why? Why
would Michael Jackson be the best man at his
wedding? Michael Jackson doesn't have many close
friends and Uri Geller was looking for clout,
people to be near him for this. Okay. It's weird
that they are that close at this time, but around
the time of Michael Jackson's death, Michael
Jackson reportedly kept a list of enemies, one
of whom was his purported friend Uri Geller.
The King of Pop's former manager Dieter Wiesner
said the paranoid star had a list of people who
he believed were set against him. The list allegedly
included ex -magician Geller, along with another
former friend Rabbi Shmuley Bodich. Geller and
Rabbi Shmuley are good friends. We're gonna talk
about them in a minute. That is crazy that he
kept eight lists of people who were against him.
I actually really like that. Geller and Jackson
initially fell out in 2002 after Geller introduced
the singer to Martin Bashir, who went on to make
a controversial documentary about the troubled
star. I fell out with Michael Jackson a few times,
Geller told Channel 4 in June. I don't blame
him for not talking to me because I unfortunately
introduced him to Martin Bashir. Bushir. However,
he added that the pair had reconciled before
Jackson's death in June. Martin Bushir ends up
writing a documentary called Living with Michael
Jackson. Like Geller says, he repeatedly has
regretted introducing them. The documentary includes
Jackson holding hands with a young boy, Jackson
defending sharing beds with children, and scenes
that were edited to appear more damning than
Jackson expected. And Michael Jackson feels absolutely
betrayed by everything that happens with them.
I get that. I'm not trying to defend him in any
way. I'm just saying he considers all of this
Yuri Geller's fault. Yeah, okay, I can see it.
And Yuri Geller weirdly enough says that actually
their friendship ended when he got anti -semitic
in 2000. Not because of this. Okay. I don't know
that I take Yuri Geller for any of his words.
Yeah. Naturally flowing from this, Rabbi Schmooley.
Chelsea, I don't know if you know who Rabbi Shmuley
is. No. What I know him for now is, have you
ever seen a Piers Morgan debate where there's
four people and they just devolve into like everybody
yelling at each other? Maybe not. Okay. So Rabbi
Shmuley debated Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks.
He ends up just being the most racist individual
you have ever seen defending Israel. And the
fact that him and Yuri Geller are friends really
makes me understand the kind of person he is.
I get weird vibes. if you're friends with him
yeah that you're not in great standing and especially
like with everything going on I kind of understand
the kind of guy he is Rabbi Shmueli was friends
of Michael Jackson. I don't quite understand
how that works, but this is not a Michael Jackson
episode or a Rabbi Shmueli episode, so whatever.
From what I've seen of him recently, he's kind
of this like, he's incredibly Zionist and really
racist against any non -Jewish group surrounding
Israel in the Middle East. But just my opinion
for that part. They appear to have been good
friends and they even wrote a book together called
The Psychic and the Rabbi, blessed by Pope John
- Paul II and acclaimed by Deepak Chopra and
Rabbi Harold Kushner. The psychic and the rabbi
is a spellbinding correspondence between the
world's most celebrated paranormalist and one
of the most controversial and famous religious
figures. In over 50 letters, these two friends
share their inner fears, doubts, joys, and beliefs.
Searingly honest, they lay bare their innermost
feelings and life experiences while confronting
The most profound questions and issues of our
time. Can we believe in God when we experience
a horrendous tragedy? I have no desire to read
this book at all. Is marriage always sacred?
Is human cloning immoral? Does extraterrestrial
intelligence exist? Deeply moving and far -reaching
in scope, Geller and Botich discuss such topics
as sexual energy as a spiritual force, New Age
spirituality versus traditional religion, money,
power, ambition, fame, and much more. He wrote
a book with him. Okay next up friends apparently
with Muhammad Ali Although I have absolutely
no evidence of their direct relationship He does
say he met and had a relationship with Muhammad
Ali on multiple occasions and the ori Geller
museum in Jaffa includes boxing gloves signed
by Cassius Clay who is Muhammad Ali which is
among Geller's personal collection of items from
celebrities he interacted with. So there's at
least an implied meeting or personal exchange
between the two men. This is the fucking most
random list of famous people. Chelsea he's a
cloak chaser if you haven't figured it out by
now. Anybody he can get close to he's gonna get
his name near. Yeah. I mean, it's just the most
random group of people though Oh, yeah, so you
can guess where I'm going to next, right? Is
it Donald Trump or something? No, he'll come
up eventually but right now I'm going to Werner
von Braun That actually was guessable based on
my last comment. Warner von Braun was apparently
introduced to Orie Geller in 1972. Absolutely
no evidence of it. NASA has no evidence of it.
Warner von Braun has made no mention in any way
of it outside. Where is this list of people that
you're getting from his website? No, this is
actually a very famous story that apparently
happened. But here we are with no evidence of
it outside of... Where do we get the story? Orie
Geller. only person who could possibly give us
a story because he's the only person this is
the majority of all these stories okay other
than Michael Jackson at his wedding apparently
that one is true i still don't understand it
Michael Jackson was his best man that is straight
up a fact i mean that's the only thing that we
know as fact and it's weird yeah okay what's
the story about This is first hand from Uri Geller
talking about Werner von Braun. So he took me
into his office, opened a safe and showed me
something extraordinary. Fragments from a craft
that was not from this earth. But he didn't tell
me that at first. Instead he just asked me to
hold them and use my extra sensory abilities
to tune in. Read them. and explain what I sensed
and picked up from them. As soon as I touched
those pieces I knew they were not from here.
I also knew as I tuned into these samples that
they were not made from any ordinary kind of
metal because they felt alive as if they were
breathing and the sensation I got was one of
connection. Sorry there's capital so I have to
say those. Not coldness. Instead, I felt an abiding
sense of vast knowledge, wisdom, and understanding
beyond anything we could ever comprehend. We
have come across the fascinating phenomenon before,
spaceships that would somehow be alive. David
Adair shared his experience with Ptholom. I have
also gathered a number of examples of people
who talk with conscious spaceships. I shared
with Von Brom, and it was only then that he told
me they had been recovered from a crashed UFO!
I believe the material he gave me to hold, and
the larger craft they came from, must have been
created, whether it was built or perhaps even
grown, with an innate merged consciousness. Some
kind of synthetic biological intelligence, and
I believe the craft these beings traveled in
were not machines in the way we understand them.
They were living entities. linked directly to
the minds of their occupants. And if what I felt
from those samples were telepathically linked
with the consciousness of those pilots, then
I am absolutely sure the aliens themselves shared
the same mental signatures. After asking me to
read the samples of metal from the craft, Von
Braun took me to a refrigerator room beneath
a secure NASA -owned building, where he showed
me clear coffin -like containers that held the
mangled bodies of the craft's occupants. Again,
I tried to tune in and the strongest impressions
I got from them was that they were scientists
or historians. I felt that they had come here
to observe and perhaps even to maybe help us
in some way. But what I felt in those metal pieces,
what I saw in those beings was not war, it was
not wonder, not domination, but a higher intelligence
and maybe guidance. And that's his interaction
with Werner von Braun, is that he showed him
pieces of a UFO. UFO! It's getting out of hand.
And dead bodies. Which he also says that Edgar
Mitchell was the one who had introduced them,
but Edgar Mitchell doesn't say that. No, or Heller
does. Yeah. Next up, Chelsea. This one actually
might be guessable. Who do you think is the next
person he says is a friend? Oh my god. It's not
Prince Andrews. No, it's Edgar Mitchell. Of course.
So Edgar Mitchell did in fact encounter Uri Geller
in the early 1970s when both men were involved
with the parapsychology research program at SRI.
Mitchell, who had recently returned from the
Apollo 14 mission and developed an interest in
consciousness studies, participated in the several
of I think is from that episode. He observed
portions of the testing and supported the continuation
of the research describing Geller as a subject
who occasionally produced results that were difficult
to explain under available protocols. Mitchell
spoke publicly about Geller in later interviews
and usually in the context of broader discussions
about PSI phenomena. He did not endorse all of
Geller's claims, but he maintained that some
of the SRI sessions suggested the presence of
anomalous cognition and Mitchell's comments were
generally cautious. emphasizing the need for
better experiment controls and more rigorous
methodology. Geller has frequently described
Mitchell as a supporter and has included him
in accounts of his early career. Some of these
stories such as claims that Mitchell introduced
him to Werner von Braun or accompanied him to
a classified facility are not corroborated anyway.
by Mitchell's own statements and Mitchell never
confirms participating in any such events, then
there is no independent evidence that he and
Geller interacted outside of the SRI research
environment. And that description right there
of him fully encapsulates Edgar Mitchell. It
really does. I will lend my name to you. I have
absolutely no association with any of this shit.
There's no account of their relationship extending
beyond the SRI experiment relationship. And then
next up, of course, Benjamin Netanyahu apparently
is a good friend of Yuri Geller. who has known
him for at least 50 years, dating back to Netanyahu's
early military career. And Sarah Netanyahu has
visited Geller at his museum's construction site
to wish him a happy birthday. And one that I
find incredibly curious, Chelsea, is he shows
up in the Epstein files. Netanyahu or Uri Geller?
Uri Geller. I wouldn't be surprised at either
of them, but what does he show up in? So we knew
Epstein two -way. It's in passing. So this is
an email that - Can I just ask first? Does he
actually show up there or does he just say that
he's in them? No. I googled and made sure he's
in them. It would make sense that he's trying
to say he's in them. That's perfect. I get that.
No, he's actually in here and I'm gonna say this
is an email from Deepak Chopra to Jeffrey Epstein
on Sunday, February 19th 2017 Email I'm in Israel
that week with 30 people teaching Judaic and
Vedic cognition. I wish you would join It's going
to be an amazing experience. I also speak in
Tel Aviv to 7 ,000 people Uri Geller who is an
old friend will join for dinner and dazzle my
group. Also a prof of medicine from Jerusalem
who does research on non -local research love.
So no way to confirm whether or not he actually
ever met. There are a few other mentions of him
in the epstein files but most of them are like
spam emails that he got with big news stories
on them so it's hard to say whether or not there
was actually like any association. So, other
than Michael Jackson being his best man, which
is confirmed, this is the only other confirmation
of who he knows. Yes. Like solid evidence. Is
the Epstein friend? Absolutely. But to be fair,
that doesn't confirm they actually ever met,
because if you listen to the email, it's like
somebody offering Epstein to come to this. So
I don't know if he actually ever will. Well,
Deepak Chopra is the one that's saying he's a
good friend of his. So while Uri Geller doesn't
say Deepak Chopra is his friend, Deepak is telling
Jeffrey Epstein that he is his friend. Okay,
I love this episode. Yeah, so that's the friend
list and now I want to get into this weird thing
I've called predictions. They're not quite predictions,
but it all kind of falls into that category.
Okay. In 1992, Erie Geller was asked to investigate
the kidnapping of Hungarian model Helga Farkas,
and he predicted she would be found in good health,
but she's never found as widely believed to have
been murdered. Okay, yeah in 2013 a BBC documentary
the secret life of her Geller psychic spy featured
her Geller Netanyahu Christopher Kate Green Paul
H Smith how put off and Russell targ the documentary
claims Geller became a psychic spy for the CIA
and was recruited by Massad and worked as an
official secret agent in Mexico, being a frequent
guest of President Jose Lopez Portillo. In the
film, Geller claims he erased floppy disks carried
by the KGB agents around him by repeatedly chanting
the words ERASE. Erase erase erase erase erase
erase erase. Okay. Now you guys only have journey
to the fringe in your podcast. There you go So
that's all they have in their podcast you were
good Next up speaking exclusively to the mirror.
Mr. Geller says I think in the next 10 to 20
years there will be a landing It won't be an
invasion. Wherever they come from, I think maybe
two or three species out there, if they want
to destroy us, they could. There will be a Steven
Spielberg -type landing. I hope they land somewhere
like the White House lawn or the Eiffel Tower.
It will be the biggest revelation in history.
Religiously, archaeologically, everything, you'll
be like finding the Ark of the Covenant. In 2023,
that was Yuri Geller's prediction. I guess that
we'll see aliens in the next 10 to 20 years.
Okay. Now, when you say speaking to the mirror,
is this, is he looking at himself in the mirror?
The Mizzi. Okay. And you know what? I think Billy
Meyer is doing better with his predictions at
this point. This is a pretty horrible prediction.
At least somebody talks back to him. He cuts
them off constantly. But. Yes, exactly. Okay.
December 29th. Yuri Geller claims he has energized
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and he's going
to win his election. Does he fail? No, he actually
wins that election. Wow, did he already win it
when he said that? I didn't put a time on that.
That could have been even stated after he won
the election that he did that because you're
gonna notice in a lot of these he makes his comments
after things happen and that's he's already predicted
it. Not predicted it, brought it about. Ah yes.
On March 29, 2021. I should say, this is the
blockage of the Suez Canal. The illusionist has
been instructing his followers to focus on moving
the Ever Given at the same time, every day, at
11 11, a numerology the time 11 11 is believed
to hold spiritual significance. Many will make
a wish or hold a prayer at that minute, as it
is seen as a auspicious moment. The showman claims
that the world's collective mind power, not the
14 tugboats attempting to dislodge the ship,
already moved it a bit. Keep up the good work!
Focus every day at 11 .11 and 11 .11 p .m. And
your energy to free the ship! Help the tugboats
too, Geller wrote on Twitter. Quote, This was
a mammoth task, but with your mind power and
self -belief, we all, together, freed the ship.
Your sheer positive energy also helped the ground
crew's efforts. Well done to them too, end quote.
Hate this guy and like which time he took full
credit for freeing that ship from the Suez Canal
I Know or that one frickin tractor that was just
digging it worked. So friggin hard. Oh, yeah
Chelsea, do you remember in late 2025 the drones
being spotted over airports all over Europe?
Drones buzzing airports are not Vladimir Putin's
pies in the sky, but alien -controlled UFOs according
to spoon -bending mystic Yuri Geller. He has
called on governments to stop gaslighting the
public and come clean if the mystery crafts are
not human -controlled. Geller predicted there
will be more sightings in the coming months across
airport cities and military bases worldwide,
and told the public to watch the skies but don't
believe the lies. I have a terrible feeling.
There will be an attempt on your life. I am getting
bad signals. This is a golden opportunity for
Islamic terrorists. You are the biggest prize
in the world for them. Remember, Sadat was killed
by one of his own security forces. No one can
be 100 % protected. Not even you. Double your
security cordon and handpick your bodyguards.
Do not move anywhere without a ring of steel.
And then of course, Iran attacked Israel in 2024.
Boy, you didn't know about this, Chelsea. I can't
go into details because the operation was classified,
but I played a part in bringing down the Iranian
drones that attacked Israel in April. I can't
go into details, but it is fact. Where's that
from X? That is just a quote from him on this
text This is I don't know where we're going with
this because I didn't put a title on it But this
is from the Jerusalem Post June 8th 2025 Israel
psychic Yuri Yeller has threatened to stop activist
Greta Thunberg as her Gaza aid flotilla Continues
its journey to Israel telling the Jerusalem Post
that he also is responsible for the navigation
malfunctions on her ship. Oh my god Quote I stopped
the navigation systems of the ship end quote.
He explained who is also the Explanation I've
ever seen sorry explain Geller who is also the
owner of we're Geller museum in Jaffa that who
would use psychic powers to interfere with her
ship. On Sunday, Israeli media reports showed
that the navigation tools on the ships were malfunctioning,
with the leader of the Freedom Flotilla ship
accusing Israel of being behind it. Yeller, however,
takes full credit for the ship's navigation errors.
When he asked how he did it, he told the Post
that he utilized a technique known as remote
viewing. This alleged paranormal ability is supposed
to allow the user to project their mind anywhere
to be able to see distant people or places. Quote,
remote viewing is sending your mind through space
and time. If I attach my psychokinetic energy
through remote viewing, I can locate exactly
where the navigational instruments are on her
boat. End quote. He further explained that he
had done it before. He had claimed to have used
it to stop the clock on Big Ben clock tower in
London twice and to interfere with the Iran missiles
and drone attacks in Israel in 2024. Quote, it's
like a laser, like the idea of The weapon, the
iron beam. That's how powerful the mind is for
some people. It's now a laser. I will ward her
through the Jerusalem Post. Greta, if you come
to arm Israel, Uri Geller is going to stop you.
Geller concluded the interview by adding, I congratulate
Jerusalem Post on the most amazing website I
have ever seen. In honor of the Post's updated
look. On January 16th of 2026, Geller said in
the Jerusalem Post, quote, What the fuck is going
on? Yeah, so that's where we're at, Chelsea.
This is the last little bit just seemed like
all X posts. Don't know how to feel about any
of that. But like if you go to his website, it's
the same thing. Also, he declared independency
I don't know how like he hasn't done anything
official from Scotland with lamb Island Nothing
is on lamb Island, but if you go to his website
you can buy Residency on lamb Island. I didn't
go to his website yet for a dollar and Chelsea
I want you to go to your yellow calm now to kind
of like see it and just see, you're gonna see
a lot of spoons. I'm just gonna warn you. That's
a huge ass spoon. I hate this all, hate it all.
Oh, there's Abracadabra. This is actually the
most sane website that I've seen. Chelsea, if
you go to the very top, click here to become
a citizen of Uri's mystical island for just one
dollar. Oh yeah, right there. Proceeds go to
charity. That's Uri Geller. I don't feel I misrepresented
him and like I always felt he was a bigger deal
than everything I just explained. Can you click
on Become a Citizen as his island? I gotta show
you something. Yeah, I'm there. The certificate?
No, keep going down. The constitution? No, keep
going. Can you see the rainbow blessing his island?
Oh, there it is! Not an AI image! Rainbow blessing
my island. I mean you could take that from an
angle to do that pretty that's pretty funny.
I Really like holy shit. I'm sorry This is even
something I looked into the flake for his island
is the all -seeing eye His fucking shitty island.
Yeah, there's a lot of symbolism here in this
with the all -seeing eye and he doesn't even
explain it He really has it does but he doesn't
put the all -seeing eye in there. You're right.
Right is for energy. Where's the eye? yeah it's
creepy the the thing is creepy the official yeah
this is one of those things where there was too
many things to look into for uri geller where
i'm sure we could do a whole episode on the island
Oh, citizenship is a symbolic status which does
not allow for any territorial claims or unauthorized
activity on Lamb Island. I assume that means
it's not good for a visa that you need to travel
to the UK. Who's gonna protect it? If you get
there, you can do whatever you want because no
one's gonna protect that island. You could probably
just take it for your own, I think. Who's gonna
stop you? Your yeller's not there. As far as
I can tell he's in Jaffa and also 80 years old
at this point So you can read this English or
this website in either Russian or English? So
that's the point I got to is he's a weird guy
I can't tell how much massage CIA involvement
he has you can't say it's nothing but man is
he a weird guy Yeah, I totally forgot about that
connection in the beginning and like he's friends
with Netanyahu So yeah, that's not good and like
everything I learned about him in the last little
while like he's a big trunk by I he's Heavily
a Zionist. I just don't know how to feel about
that part. But yeah, everything else about him.
I don't like him Yeah, and even the parts of
him that we should like man. It's all just a
fucking lie. So that's irregular That was a great
three episodes. I quite enjoyed that. That was
refreshing. We've had quite a lot of assholes
already so far this year. Almost as if we were
inspired by the asshole ranges. We need to get
more assholes. We are inspired by that actually.
It's part of our podcast. We really are. It's
what drives us. We love assholes. Anyhow, I have
been Taylor. Here with Chelsea. We are Journey
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