WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 from the unexplained to the mundane. Come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:16.059 us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:19.160 to Journey to the Fringe. Maybe just a figment 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.379 of your imagination and maybe you just forgot 00:00:21.379 --> 00:00:24.559 to turn those headphones on. Anyhow, we are your 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:26.980 podcast host. We probably exist. Don't think 00:00:26.980 --> 00:00:29.760 too much about it, Taylor and Chelsea. Here today 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:32.640 doing a Chelsea episode. It's probably not the 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.840 mushrooms you just ate. We're not literally talking 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.299 to you, right? It might be the mushrooms we just 00:00:37.299 --> 00:00:41.719 ate, but who knows for sure. Anyhow, on with 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.500 the episode. Don't think too much about what 00:00:43.500 --> 00:00:47.200 Taylor just said. This episode has been a long 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.780 time coming. I really hope nobody's done some 00:00:49.780 --> 00:00:53.000 hallucinatories while listening to this. I'm 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.079 actually surprised - Oh no, is it a bad trip? 00:00:55.420 --> 00:01:00.159 Yep. Coming up, turn it off right now. You know 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.719 who you are. You need to be in a better place. 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.260 I'm actually surprised we haven't covered it 00:01:06.260 --> 00:01:10.140 yet, except for briefly once on a Halloween episode, 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:13.180 I believe it was. And if there was another time, 00:01:13.459 --> 00:01:18.099 boy was I wrong. Today, I'm covering the fascinatingly 00:01:18.099 --> 00:01:22.620 horrifying world of all that is pale crawlers. 00:01:23.060 --> 00:01:25.599 So let's not beat around the bush and let's just 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.420 jump right in. You don't need to hear where I 00:01:27.420 --> 00:01:30.879 came up with the episode. If I say crawler, what 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:35.090 are we thinking of? Well, They are almost completely 00:01:35.090 --> 00:01:38.409 opposite of Bigfoot or Mothman, though they are 00:01:38.409 --> 00:01:42.930 humanoids, characterized by their pale, emaciated 00:01:42.930 --> 00:01:46.530 appearance and quadrupedal movement, crawling 00:01:46.530 --> 00:01:48.969 for the layman person. I don't know why, Chelsea, 00:01:49.109 --> 00:01:51.569 but I always feel that you can see their spine, 00:01:51.829 --> 00:01:55.349 like very prominently. Yeah, me too. And it's 00:01:55.349 --> 00:01:57.689 for a reason. It's because they're supposed to 00:01:57.689 --> 00:02:00.560 be like hunched over. And they're emaciated. 00:02:01.019 --> 00:02:03.400 So that would logically lead you to believe that 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.920 you can see their pointy spine. I assume it's 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:09.139 pointy, too, for some reason. Yep. We're on the 00:02:09.139 --> 00:02:12.860 same page. Perfect. They have translucent skin, 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:16.740 pale ash gray. Some people have noted that it's 00:02:16.740 --> 00:02:19.319 leathery looking. I don't picture it that way, 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.879 but I haven't seen one and I hope to never see 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.479 one. They're extremely tall and gangly, appearing 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.379 thin and emaciated abnormally. Yeah, we got that. 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:33.800 We got that. Elongated limbs, visible ribs, long 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.439 fingers with claws or talons, and always naked. 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:42.360 Always naked. But... Yeah? Rarely are the genitals 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.939 described. Never. And I'm sorry, it needs to 00:02:44.939 --> 00:02:47.099 be addressed because we are that podcast. We 00:02:47.099 --> 00:02:51.159 are that podcast. The podcast about cryptogenitals. 00:02:51.419 --> 00:02:54.379 Yeah. That's us. But thankfully, it's not Crawlman 00:02:54.379 --> 00:02:59.189 or Crawlerman. It is crawlers. So yeah, it has 00:02:59.189 --> 00:03:01.889 not been gendered. So I don't think it matters 00:03:01.889 --> 00:03:04.310 as much. Yep. I'm not going to hold it up as 00:03:04.310 --> 00:03:07.030 a gripe compared to say a moth man. Yeah. No, 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:10.569 this one's completely ungendered and I'm just 00:03:10.569 --> 00:03:14.939 putting it out there. If any of you ever see 00:03:14.939 --> 00:03:17.939 a cryptid. Please make note of the genitals. 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.000 Please. It's all we're asking. Maybe. This is 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.879 what this live cast is for. If anything, tell 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:25.860 us about it. It might make the whole interaction 00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:28.699 less scary if you just see something like dangle. 00:03:28.780 --> 00:03:31.500 It's true. And you're like, man, I got an email 00:03:31.500 --> 00:03:33.500 journey to the French. We're really looking for 00:03:33.500 --> 00:03:39.539 it. And we hope the first one is about some cryptid. 00:03:39.539 --> 00:03:41.740 We're getting put on some weird spam lists right 00:03:41.740 --> 00:03:47.229 now. I can feel it. Okay, where was I? Always 00:03:47.229 --> 00:03:51.789 naked. Their face is sunken in large black or 00:03:51.789 --> 00:03:55.650 glowing eyes even. Often black, a visible nose, 00:03:56.009 --> 00:03:58.889 no hair, totally bald with their nudity as well. 00:03:58.949 --> 00:04:01.189 They're probably pretty cold. But for some reason 00:04:01.189 --> 00:04:03.909 I always hear of them in like not like super 00:04:03.909 --> 00:04:06.870 warm climates. Like they're usually, the places 00:04:06.870 --> 00:04:09.129 I've heard of them being spotted are more like, 00:04:09.129 --> 00:04:11.729 I don't know, northern states. From what I've... 00:04:11.770 --> 00:04:14.669 taken in it seems like they're everywhere why 00:04:14.669 --> 00:04:17.490 they're not in warmer areas specifically with 00:04:17.490 --> 00:04:20.029 all their nudity no idea maybe they don't feel 00:04:20.029 --> 00:04:22.769 cold maybe i don't know that wasn't in the notes 00:04:22.769 --> 00:04:24.550 yeah and they don't have any fat either they 00:04:24.550 --> 00:04:26.769 wouldn't know you made that very clear in your 00:04:26.769 --> 00:04:29.790 description yeah except for the fact that i did 00:04:29.790 --> 00:04:34.660 you guys know that they're emaciated Well, quadrupedal, 00:04:34.899 --> 00:04:38.680 they're capable of bipedalism and they move hunched 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.839 or bent over frantically and quickly. They are 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.600 known to be incredibly fast as with the quickly, 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:54.379 stealthy, smart and move quickly. I'm really 00:04:54.379 --> 00:04:57.240 trying to make my points here. They're generally 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:01.439 nocturnal, elusive, and highly observant. They 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.040 are often reported watching humans from the tree 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.920 line, rooftops, and they're typically encountered 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.540 around abandoned buildings or in forest caves, 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.839 other heavily wooded areas. Most sightings are 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.480 at dusk, night, early morning before sunrise, 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.779 so main takeaway in that is they like the darkness. 00:05:20.139 --> 00:05:24.279 They have been reported as chattering, high -pitched 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.660 screams often associated with sightings as well. 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.480 They're even associated with mimic behavior, 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.180 impersonating someone, calling out your name, 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.040 crying children, crying babies. And a lot of 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:39.500 people also mentioned the overwhelming feeling 00:05:39.500 --> 00:05:42.180 of dread. I always think of the creatures on 00:05:42.180 --> 00:05:44.680 the descent when I think of crawlers. Yeah, I 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:47.000 was actually gonna say that too. Yeah, I wonder 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.500 if it's based on that. Is there a chance that 00:05:49.500 --> 00:05:54.920 it is a Bigfoot with blight? No. Maybe? Actually, 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.060 I have a story that you might like. It might 00:05:57.060 --> 00:05:59.699 be. I don't know. Next thing I want to spend 00:05:59.699 --> 00:06:03.480 a little bit of time on is distinguishing between 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:07.740 a rake versus a crawler, which I have seen used 00:06:07.740 --> 00:06:12.339 interchangeably sometimes. The rake. A rake. 00:06:12.860 --> 00:06:14.920 Rake. I don't know how he likes to be called. 00:06:15.060 --> 00:06:17.420 Yeah. Yeah. And I was saying, I said blight. 00:06:17.459 --> 00:06:19.600 What I meant was alopecia. It's where they like 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.259 lose all their hair. No, I would think they're 00:06:23.259 --> 00:06:26.040 different guys. Just based on how they walk around. 00:06:26.139 --> 00:06:28.720 Okay. Because Bigfoot's not really reported as 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.339 walking around quadrupedally, right? Fair. I 00:06:31.339 --> 00:06:33.519 think he's mostly upright. Unless he had like 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.100 a fun night, probably. So the rake, or Senor 00:06:38.100 --> 00:06:41.449 Rake. is essentially the same thing as a crawler 00:06:41.449 --> 00:06:45.790 however the rake was definitely created on 4chan 00:06:45.790 --> 00:06:48.990 and is most definitely made up the history of 00:06:48.990 --> 00:06:51.970 the rake is a perfect example of how internet 00:06:51.970 --> 00:06:55.410 culture can manifest a modern legend which is 00:06:55.410 --> 00:06:58.310 something that we see quite a bit now, I think. 00:06:58.829 --> 00:07:01.430 While many people today claim to see them in 00:07:01.430 --> 00:07:04.790 the woods, calling them crawlers, the rake actually 00:07:04.790 --> 00:07:08.230 has a very specific documented origin story from 00:07:08.230 --> 00:07:12.129 the mid -2000s. In late 2005, an anonymous user 00:07:12.129 --> 00:07:16.189 on 4chan's Slash be slash board posted a thread 00:07:16.189 --> 00:07:20.069 saying hey be let's make a new monster. I've 00:07:20.069 --> 00:07:23.129 never used 4chan I think it's not around anymore. 00:07:23.129 --> 00:07:25.810 I think I don't know. Oh, it's still around it 00:07:25.810 --> 00:07:28.389 is actually Specifically listed in the Epstein 00:07:28.389 --> 00:07:31.110 files that just came out. Oh, it is 4chan like 00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:33.949 had a lot of stuff on there right here I don't 00:07:33.949 --> 00:07:37.269 know what that slash be slash means. Those are 00:07:37.269 --> 00:07:40.569 their subreddits. Okay, basically Thank you for 00:07:40.569 --> 00:07:42.829 clearing that up. You're a 4chan expert that 00:07:42.829 --> 00:07:46.550 means. Users brainstorm features. Pale skin, 00:07:46.810 --> 00:07:49.610 sunken eyes, lanky limbs. The goal was to create 00:07:49.610 --> 00:07:52.370 something so creepy it would feel like a real 00:07:52.370 --> 00:07:55.259 urban legend. Similar to Slender Man. in the 00:07:55.259 --> 00:07:57.199 way they're both made up, I guess. Not the same 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.180 creature, same kind of concept. One was from 00:08:00.180 --> 00:08:02.360 Creepy Past or something like that. Both totally 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.139 made up. During the development, it was briefly 00:08:05.139 --> 00:08:07.939 called Operation Crawler before the name The 00:08:07.939 --> 00:08:11.100 Rake Stuck, referring to its long tool -like 00:08:11.100 --> 00:08:15.490 claws. The 4chan creation even had made up documentation 00:08:15.490 --> 00:08:18.509 for the rake to make the story believable and 00:08:18.509 --> 00:08:21.329 the creators wrote several fictional historical 00:08:21.329 --> 00:08:23.970 documents that are now core to the rake lore. 00:08:24.569 --> 00:08:28.730 So they got the miners log written in 1691, an 00:08:28.730 --> 00:08:31.029 English seaman claims a creature came to him 00:08:31.029 --> 00:08:33.450 in his sleep demanding he leave the land and 00:08:33.450 --> 00:08:37.110 never return. The Spanish Journal from 1880, 00:08:37.409 --> 00:08:40.370 a translation of a diary from a man who was so 00:08:40.370 --> 00:08:42.970 traumatized by the hollow black eyes watching 00:08:42.970 --> 00:08:45.450 him that he could no longer sleep. There was 00:08:45.450 --> 00:08:49.309 a suicide note in 1964 of a man who took his 00:08:49.309 --> 00:08:52.029 life leaving a note for his daughter, Linnie, 00:08:52.149 --> 00:08:56.190 claiming that he, the rake, spoke her name. And 00:08:56.190 --> 00:08:59.429 there's a media blackout 2003 where the lore 00:08:59.429 --> 00:09:02.820 claims that this that there was a flurry of sightings 00:09:02.820 --> 00:09:06.360 in northeastern US in 2003, but a mysterious 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:08.720 blackout occurred and all local news records 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.659 were destroyed. Unlike typical monsters that 00:09:11.659 --> 00:09:14.840 just attack, the rake is a psychological stalker. 00:09:14.940 --> 00:09:17.460 Its most famous behavior is sitting at the foot 00:09:17.460 --> 00:09:19.759 of a victim's bed and simply watching them while 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.299 they sleep. Seeing the rake is often considered 00:09:22.299 --> 00:09:25.279 an ill omen. It chooses a victim and stalks them 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.600 for years, eventually driving them to madness 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.700 or suicide, which is a weird note on this one. 00:09:31.259 --> 00:09:34.240 It is one of the very few creepypasta monsters 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:37.440 that speaks. It usually speaks in a shrill metallic 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.019 voice, often whispering the name of its next 00:09:40.019 --> 00:09:42.659 victims. I'm actually pretty sold him in. He's 00:09:42.659 --> 00:09:44.820 actually pretty cool as a made up guy. Yeah. 00:09:44.940 --> 00:09:47.340 You know, as far as made up stuff goes, this 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:50.600 one, I like the videos for like people who claim 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:52.919 to have seen crawlers. Like they are creepy. 00:09:53.019 --> 00:09:58.200 They do a good job. Yeah. So the rake is described 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.230 as hairless, emaciated. A specific detail from 00:10:02.230 --> 00:10:05.809 the original 4chan thread is a mouth that hinges 00:10:05.809 --> 00:10:09.370 open much wider than a human's, revealing rows 00:10:09.370 --> 00:10:13.470 of small, dull teeth. Very important. It's namesake, 00:10:13.730 --> 00:10:16.730 long, thin fingers ending in sharp, rake -like 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:19.769 nails used for lacerating prey. I also just picture 00:10:19.769 --> 00:10:22.330 them raking with it. Why else would they have 00:10:22.330 --> 00:10:25.149 them? Nature obviously wanted them to rake up 00:10:25.149 --> 00:10:28.509 some leaves. In the original lore, it's sometimes 00:10:28.509 --> 00:10:32.470 depicted with three neon green eyes, though modern 00:10:32.470 --> 00:10:34.570 crawler sightings usually describe two large 00:10:34.570 --> 00:10:37.210 glowing white or sunken black eyes. It's known 00:10:37.210 --> 00:10:39.549 to move faster than the human eye can track, 00:10:39.789 --> 00:10:42.210 often scuttling away the moment it's spotted. 00:10:42.460 --> 00:10:45.600 It can hide in plain sight, often standing perfectly 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.259 still in the corner of a room or behind a thin 00:10:48.259 --> 00:10:52.059 tree. In many stories, it seems unfazed by physical 00:10:52.059 --> 00:10:55.139 damage or gunshots, though it usually chooses 00:10:55.139 --> 00:10:58.639 to flee rather than fight when confronted. So 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:03.659 I didn't directly comment on your comment because 00:11:03.659 --> 00:11:06.460 obviously there's a lot of crossovers between 00:11:06.460 --> 00:11:09.340 the two, perhaps even drawing inspiration from 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:12.840 a crawler or perhaps a little bit of Tulpa. So 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.200 why not both or none of them? Perhaps we can't 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.759 have one without the other. It's always a fun 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.740 thought experiment that way, but they are two 00:11:22.740 --> 00:11:25.799 totally separate things. Rake made up, crawler. 00:11:26.059 --> 00:11:29.480 There are sightings of crawlers even before the 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.500 rake came into made up existence. Chelsea, I 00:11:32.500 --> 00:11:34.820 do just need to ask you something at this point. 00:11:34.860 --> 00:11:37.179 I don't know if it came up at all for your research 00:11:37.179 --> 00:11:40.990 on this, but Is it not called the rake, that 00:11:40.990 --> 00:11:44.090 Sacramento video of like that guy with that night 00:11:44.090 --> 00:11:46.929 cam footage of those beings walking through his 00:11:46.929 --> 00:11:50.950 backyard? No, that's the Fresno Nightcrawler. 00:11:51.269 --> 00:11:53.549 Nightcrawler, okay. Yeah, totally. For some reason, 00:11:53.610 --> 00:11:56.129 I've always thought that was called a rake. No. 00:11:57.049 --> 00:12:00.110 But it did come up in my research because it 00:12:00.110 --> 00:12:03.929 has crawler in it. Okay. So I know exactly what 00:12:03.929 --> 00:12:06.679 you're talking about. but something that you 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.879 might recognize, I'm just gonna share my screen 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.320 with you. I just actually have to find the right 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.519 screen to share with you. You might recognize 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.519 this guy. This guy's a very famous rake that 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.700 you may have seen him passing. Oh, and I always 00:12:24.700 --> 00:12:27.299 thought that one was a crawler. So it's a rake 00:12:27.299 --> 00:12:30.789 because it's made up. It's made up. So I mean, 00:12:31.070 --> 00:12:34.269 I would just consider really anything that is 00:12:34.269 --> 00:12:38.370 made up. Probably a rake is what I think. I don't 00:12:38.370 --> 00:12:42.879 know. So what I just shared was. I guess I should 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:44.700 tell you. It'll be included somewhere. Yeah. 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.799 Maybe it might even be the the title page of 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:52.279 this episode. That is the Louisiana swamp monster 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:55.639 which came out of this online universe and is 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.159 probably the most recognizable fake footage. 00:12:59.470 --> 00:13:04.250 There are tons of like what are they called trail 00:13:04.250 --> 00:13:07.830 cam footage of quote unquote crawlers, rakes, 00:13:07.970 --> 00:13:10.889 what have you and tons of fake footage out there. 00:13:11.149 --> 00:13:13.990 I would go as far as to say the most I have had 00:13:13.990 --> 00:13:17.029 to sift through to find actual information for 00:13:17.029 --> 00:13:22.549 any cryptid ever. So much made up AI crap and 00:13:22.549 --> 00:13:26.690 stuff out there for this. It's insane. The roots 00:13:26.690 --> 00:13:30.110 of the legend, lore, myths, and origins of the 00:13:30.110 --> 00:13:33.850 crawler were off the rake now. Honestly, the 00:13:33.850 --> 00:13:37.090 crawler itself doesn't go very far back, which 00:13:37.090 --> 00:13:40.070 is something interesting to note, especially 00:13:40.070 --> 00:13:43.009 with the advent of the rake. There are sightings 00:13:43.009 --> 00:13:46.129 that go before the rake was made up officially, 00:13:46.350 --> 00:13:50.190 probably going back to the early 2000s. The rake 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:54.419 comes in the 2005s, slightly before The thing 00:13:54.419 --> 00:13:57.259 that does seem to come up with the crawler is 00:13:57.259 --> 00:14:01.259 that it does seem like it could possibly be mistaken 00:14:01.259 --> 00:14:05.120 for other entities. And while what I read for 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.259 you does seem distinct to the crawler because 00:14:08.259 --> 00:14:10.899 you don't really hear anything else described 00:14:10.899 --> 00:14:14.120 as that. I mean, we could be looking at something 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.559 that's a skinwalker. which I was informed crawler 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.200 did come up in the skinwalker episode actually 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.600 to my shock and disbelief. I don't know about 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:24.720 that. I didn't go double check the information 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.340 I got, but here we are. As well, the Windigo 00:14:28.340 --> 00:14:32.840 could actually fall into crawler territory. Even 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.779 things like the Djinn or ghouls could potentially 00:14:35.779 --> 00:14:39.100 fall into crawler territory, which I did get 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:41.639 pulled into a little bit because I haven't heard 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.570 of them before. Ghouls? And I had to read you 00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:48.070 this because what a creepy thing. And this comes 00:14:48.070 --> 00:14:51.789 from Arabic countries, just like the djinn. It 00:14:51.789 --> 00:14:55.230 sounds so creepy and cool. The ghoul in popular 00:14:55.230 --> 00:14:58.269 legend is a demonic being believed to inhabit 00:14:58.269 --> 00:15:02.029 burial grounds and other deserted places. In 00:15:02.029 --> 00:15:06.009 ancient Arabic folklore, ghouls belong to a diabolical 00:15:06.009 --> 00:15:09.309 class of djinn spirits and were said to be the 00:15:09.309 --> 00:15:12.200 offspring of Iblis. the Prince of Darkness in 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:14.419 Islam. Sorry for butchering that. I already know 00:15:14.419 --> 00:15:17.919 I did. They were capable of constantly changing 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.799 form, but their presence was also recognizable 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.779 by their unalterable sign, ass as hooves, which 00:15:24.779 --> 00:15:27.570 is super creepy. Just like the jinn. Can you 00:15:27.570 --> 00:15:30.230 say that again? Asses, hooves? Like a donkey. 00:15:30.889 --> 00:15:33.570 Oh, okay. Like hooves. Okay. I was in the wrong 00:15:33.570 --> 00:15:37.970 place with that. They put it funny. Just like 00:15:37.970 --> 00:15:40.769 the jinn are recognizable by their backwards 00:15:40.769 --> 00:15:43.529 feet. I always found that to be such a creepy 00:15:43.529 --> 00:15:47.129 detail. Considered female by the ancients, the 00:15:47.129 --> 00:15:51.009 ghoul was often confused with the sea la, also 00:15:51.009 --> 00:15:54.110 female. The sea la, however, was a witch -like 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:57.919 species of jinn. immutable in shape. A ghoul 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.500 stalked the desert, often in the guise of an 00:16:00.500 --> 00:16:02.960 attractive woman, trying to distract travelers 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.639 and, when successful, killed and ate them. That 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:09.519 sounds like a good career. The sole defense that 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:12.200 one had against a ghoul was to strike it dead 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.799 in one blow. A second blow would only bring it 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.220 back to life again. That's gonna be the robots, 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:21.460 I bet you. The ghoul, as a vivid figure in the 00:16:21.460 --> 00:16:25.340 Bedouin imagination, appeared in pre -Islamic 00:16:25.340 --> 00:16:29.919 Arabic poetry, notably that of Ta 'abata, Shiran. 00:16:30.220 --> 00:16:33.539 In North Africa, it was easily assimilated into 00:16:33.539 --> 00:16:36.740 an ancient Berber folklore, already rich in demons 00:16:36.740 --> 00:16:39.919 and fantastic creatures. Modern Arabs use ghoul 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.799 to designate a human or demonic cannibal, and 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.480 frequently employ the world to frighten disobedient 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.960 children. As you do. So much of this world has 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.759 demons and like scary things to scare children. 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.820 Anglicized as ghoul, the word entered English 00:16:57.820 --> 00:17:00.500 tradition and was further identified as a grave 00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:03.019 robbing creature that feeds on dead bodies and 00:17:03.019 --> 00:17:06.019 on children. In the West ghouls have no specific 00:17:06.019 --> 00:17:08.619 image and have been described by Edgar Allan 00:17:08.619 --> 00:17:12.420 Poe. He's obviously the man to get the description 00:17:12.420 --> 00:17:15.799 from. As neither man nor woman, neither brute 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.240 nor human. They are thought to assume disguises 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:22.440 to ride on dogs and hares and to set fires at 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.920 night to lure travelers away from main roads. 00:17:25.259 --> 00:17:28.579 Pretty cool, isn't it? I couldn't not put that 00:17:28.579 --> 00:17:31.440 in. Yeah, I mean, I know enough about ghouls 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.160 from The Witcher, the video game, not from the 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.019 show, but I'm not familiar with either. Yeah. 00:17:38.410 --> 00:17:41.869 They are very cool and they are super like because 00:17:41.869 --> 00:17:43.750 I've always thought of them like before knowing 00:17:43.750 --> 00:17:47.329 what their background was as very just like generic 00:17:47.329 --> 00:17:49.710 ghosts and ghouls like you never really know 00:17:49.710 --> 00:17:52.589 exactly It's like the boogey but no they are 00:17:52.589 --> 00:17:55.450 terrifying. They eat bones of dead bodies. Yeah 00:17:55.450 --> 00:18:00.190 the graveyard Yeah, so I just think it's interesting 00:18:00.190 --> 00:18:03.349 that they don't officially appear as a crawler 00:18:03.349 --> 00:18:06.559 until around that time like I said there are 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.259 sightings of these creatures what they exactly 00:18:09.259 --> 00:18:14.119 are it could be anything um with that being said 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:18.099 just coming recently to being identified as a 00:18:18.099 --> 00:18:21.160 crawler So now we're onto evidence and sightings, 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.099 which is what we've all been waiting for. I already 00:18:24.099 --> 00:18:26.799 mentioned all the fake footage, so no need to 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.180 mention that again, as I've been doing in this 00:18:29.180 --> 00:18:32.440 podcast episode. In doing my research, there 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.240 were a fair number of pale crawler sightings 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:37.920 that are regurgitated throughout the community. 00:18:38.170 --> 00:18:41.950 known as confirmed sightings. It includes law 00:18:41.950 --> 00:18:44.750 enforcement or something around the Midwest and 00:18:44.750 --> 00:18:47.250 Ontario. I'm not going to tell you these sightings 00:18:47.250 --> 00:18:50.289 because if you do any bit of digging on pale 00:18:50.289 --> 00:18:53.349 crawlers, they're the first sightings that come 00:18:53.349 --> 00:18:56.390 up. And to be frank, the sightings suck. There's 00:18:56.390 --> 00:18:58.789 no details, which lead me to believe that they're 00:18:58.789 --> 00:19:03.289 also fake. Every podcast I listened to on these 00:19:03.289 --> 00:19:06.509 pale crawlers, the podcast read these stories. 00:19:06.509 --> 00:19:08.890 And OK, I'm just gonna read you one so you can 00:19:08.890 --> 00:19:11.849 see. So this is from Wikikrypted, and they have 00:19:11.849 --> 00:19:14.789 it under confirmed sightings. Like, give me a 00:19:14.789 --> 00:19:17.150 break. Listen to it. June 14th - Is this a Deer 00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:21.309 Man -like story? Oh, just wait. June 14th, 2008. 00:19:21.789 --> 00:19:24.690 Near a forested area in Higgins Lake, Michigan, 00:19:25.069 --> 00:19:28.630 in which two unnamed men were injured and one 00:19:28.630 --> 00:19:32.009 is killed. Police passed it off as a bear attack 00:19:32.009 --> 00:19:35.190 officially. The validity of the bear attack is 00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:38.789 unlikely as video has since been lost and was 00:19:38.789 --> 00:19:42.430 shown to have disproved that theory. That's it. 00:19:42.630 --> 00:19:45.630 And all the sightings were like this. Okay, so 00:19:45.630 --> 00:19:48.069 they'd have no first -hand account despite the 00:19:48.069 --> 00:19:50.069 fact that somebody survived. Yeah. They have 00:19:50.069 --> 00:19:53.609 no reason to believe that it wasn't a bear attack 00:19:53.609 --> 00:19:56.569 other than the person telling us says it wasn't 00:19:56.569 --> 00:19:59.859 a bear attack. Yeah. And there is a video that 00:19:59.859 --> 00:20:02.980 has now been lost. Was there a video at all? 00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:07.099 Who knows? Because all it just says now - We 00:20:07.099 --> 00:20:11.240 just know a general idea from a city. Like a 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.640 forest near a city. They have no idea where that 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.740 is. No, to one named Men. No, it couldn't have 00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:20.640 less detail. No, you know what? Dear Men was 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:24.710 more accurate. and more sexy just gotta say it 00:20:24.710 --> 00:20:28.450 like i know it was so much more intriguing and 00:20:28.450 --> 00:20:31.509 i don't get it and the amount of podcasts i listened 00:20:31.509 --> 00:20:35.210 to that repeated these was like it was ridiculous 00:20:35.210 --> 00:20:38.210 it was so ridiculous anyhow i just had to get 00:20:38.210 --> 00:20:41.250 that in there how stupid it was the crawler is 00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:44.970 an enigma and Let's get to some actual good sightings. 00:20:45.509 --> 00:20:47.869 Sightings with a disclaimer, I did exclusively 00:20:47.869 --> 00:20:51.410 limit myself to phantoms and monsters. And guess, 00:20:51.549 --> 00:20:54.809 surprise guest, I know that there are some good 00:20:54.809 --> 00:20:57.769 and creepy reddit sightings out there. even funny 00:20:57.769 --> 00:21:00.490 and entertaining. I know that's where you got 00:21:00.490 --> 00:21:02.970 your creepy backwards encounter. Do you remember 00:21:02.970 --> 00:21:05.150 that one? I believe it was close to Banff. I 00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:07.869 do. Yeah, I believe that was a Boogeyman episode 00:21:07.869 --> 00:21:09.930 where that one came up. Oh, yeah, that was a 00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:11.369 good one. That one was so funny. Because I think 00:21:11.369 --> 00:21:13.869 I decided to say that the Boogeyman kind of transfers 00:21:13.869 --> 00:21:15.970 to the crawlers in how I saw it. Yeah. Oh, and 00:21:15.970 --> 00:21:19.910 it came up again on this one. OK, but I... the 00:21:19.910 --> 00:21:23.390 crawler sightings reddit or the crawlers reddit 00:21:23.390 --> 00:21:26.569 both of them there's two of them crawlers crawler 00:21:26.569 --> 00:21:29.710 sighting it was so difficult to sift through 00:21:29.710 --> 00:21:32.930 all the aid generated fake bullshit of crawlers 00:21:32.930 --> 00:21:35.829 and the sightings themselves were stupid i did 00:21:35.829 --> 00:21:38.470 not want to spend that much time looking for 00:21:38.470 --> 00:21:42.349 like decent stories to read you guys so lon does 00:21:42.349 --> 00:21:45.609 good work and i just want to know what I was 00:21:45.609 --> 00:21:48.130 in for and have some good sightings for you because 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:51.430 that's in the end. We want good sightings. Sometimes 00:21:51.430 --> 00:21:54.690 a funny one is good, but we're going to get some 00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:57.430 actual creepy ones here. We're starting off with 00:21:57.430 --> 00:22:00.930 a fucking creepy one. OK, this one's giving me 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:02.630 the creeps right now. I'm glad I have the lights 00:22:02.630 --> 00:22:05.920 on. In the fall of last year, a couple traveling 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.339 through isolated back roads south of Zanesville 00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:12.900 experienced an encounter that defies easy explanation, 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:15.680 I'm sorry anyone who lives in Zanesville that 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.500 is offended in the tone I took in reading that. 00:22:20.099 --> 00:22:23.119 What initially appeared to be a forgotten Halloween 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.920 decoration turned out to be something far more 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.819 disturbing, brazen questions about an emerging 00:22:28.819 --> 00:22:31.980 pattern of anomalous humanoid sightings in rural 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:42.369 Ohio. The witnesses were driving toward Colossalcon 00:22:42.369 --> 00:22:46.329 in Sandusky, choosing a quiet one -lane route 00:22:46.329 --> 00:22:48.750 through the dense forest south of Zanesville. 00:22:49.190 --> 00:22:51.930 See, I said it better this time. The road was 00:22:51.930 --> 00:22:55.490 narrow and unlit. bordered by trees on both sides, 00:22:55.849 --> 00:22:59.009 with no houses or traffic in sight. As they rounded 00:22:59.009 --> 00:23:02.190 a curve, their headlights illuminated what appeared 00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:06.089 to be a human -shaped figure hanging directly 00:23:06.089 --> 00:23:09.670 over the roadway. Their first assumption was 00:23:09.670 --> 00:23:13.250 that it was a Halloween prop, possibly left behind 00:23:13.250 --> 00:23:16.549 after the season. That assumption ended abruptly 00:23:16.549 --> 00:23:19.289 when the figure turned its head towards the vehicle. 00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:23.930 I would fucking die. The entity was suspended 00:23:23.930 --> 00:23:28.619 in midair with arms outstretched. Its body dangling 00:23:28.619 --> 00:23:31.940 but clearly not attached to any visible structure, 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:35.400 wire, or branch. The limbs were unnaturally long, 00:23:35.619 --> 00:23:38.259 with joints that appeared twisted or misaligned. 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:42.180 Its skin hung loosely, described as sagging like 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.500 soaked fabric clinging unevenly to its frame. 00:23:46.099 --> 00:23:49.799 The face was thin and drawn. The skin stretched 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.480 tightly over the skull, giving it a parchment 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.380 -like appearance. As the car passed beneath it, 00:23:55.539 --> 00:23:58.960 the entity opened its mouth wide. No scream was 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.000 heard. The witnesses described the silence as 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:05.279 more unsettling than any scream. Neither spoke 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.880 until they reached Interstate 70. The route has 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.140 not been used again since the encounter. I assume 00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:15.819 by the witnesses? Yeah, just by then, I hope. 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.700 They called the police and they said, Kate, we're 00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:21.299 just shutting this road down. Yeah, we're shutting 00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.440 this place down. That sounds fucking creepy. 00:24:23.849 --> 00:24:26.150 We'll see if we can get them to nuke this spot. 00:24:26.289 --> 00:24:28.990 I'm just going to read Lon's commentary and notes 00:24:28.990 --> 00:25:17.809 that he follows it up with here. Kind of floating. 00:25:18.390 --> 00:25:22.579 Some of them. Some witnesses describe these entities 00:25:22.579 --> 00:25:26.009 crouching or standing unnaturally still. Others 00:25:26.009 --> 00:25:29.309 report levitation or vertical movement inconsistent 00:25:29.309 --> 00:25:32.990 with known biological mechanics. Possible origins 00:25:32.990 --> 00:25:36.650 include an undiscovered biological entity adapted 00:25:36.650 --> 00:25:39.710 to nocturnal environments, an interdimensional 00:25:39.710 --> 00:25:43.109 manifestation temporarily intersecting physical 00:25:43.109 --> 00:25:46.349 space, or an alterterrestrial presence using 00:25:46.349 --> 00:25:49.690 perceptual camouflage and silence as a defensive 00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:52.950 or observational behavior. The lack of sound 00:25:52.950 --> 00:25:55.890 and the entity's reaction to headlights may indicate 00:25:55.890 --> 00:25:59.250 awareness and intentional exposure rather than 00:25:59.250 --> 00:26:16.759 accidental discovery. more gives me the creeps 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.859 than anything I've heard like some of the talk 00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:21.640 on crawlers is like fallen angels and just like 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.400 the fact that it would be floating would be like 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.200 yeah I get where that's coming from yeah that's 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.339 true yeah I actually haven't heard I mean Mothman 00:26:29.339 --> 00:26:32.440 will kind of suspend yeah but he's mostly flying 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.920 it's not something yeah it's not well you don't 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.079 really see like the wing but yeah he's like not 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:41.960 just suspended, which is interesting. He says 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.460 that there's other sightings like that gives 00:26:44.460 --> 00:26:47.319 me the creeps. It's just one of those unnatural 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.460 things that, you know, shouldn't be happening. 00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:53.599 So it's just like extra creepy, just like the 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:57.500 hoops, the asses hoops. Anyhow, you're going 00:26:57.500 --> 00:27:00.660 to like this one. This one is from the special 00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:04.390 guest, not Lon. but I took it from somebody that 00:27:04.390 --> 00:27:07.930 Taylor actually turned me on to, who was Hammerson 00:27:07.930 --> 00:27:12.789 Peters. Oh. And he took these stories from the 00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:15.349 comments on his videos. It's actually highly 00:27:15.349 --> 00:27:17.589 recommended. Maybe I'll link it up in this for 00:27:17.589 --> 00:27:20.190 you to go over to. He said he was getting so 00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:23.690 many comments on people saying that he was AI 00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:26.750 on his videos that he does. Yeah, he's got a 00:27:26.750 --> 00:27:30.089 very bland voice when he's speaking. So he just 00:27:30.089 --> 00:27:33.069 wanted to do, I guess, is the topic that he did 00:27:33.069 --> 00:27:35.769 he said he was gonna do it more podcast and actually 00:27:35.769 --> 00:27:38.710 like do things where he's not reading off his 00:27:38.710 --> 00:27:41.910 script so I found the the start of the video 00:27:41.910 --> 00:27:45.150 pretty funny where he was saying that so on this 00:27:45.150 --> 00:27:49.309 one he was reading specific encounters through 00:27:49.309 --> 00:27:52.990 videos that he posted on these so this one comes 00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:55.869 from user rookie mate I'm not sure where that 00:27:55.869 --> 00:27:58.829 is maybe YouTube I don't know where he posts 00:27:58.829 --> 00:28:01.700 I don't know if he has a podcast platform on 00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:03.019 Spotify or something. Yeah, I don't know. He 00:28:03.019 --> 00:28:04.839 definitely has a YouTube channel. I know that. 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.799 So let's just say from there user rookie mate 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.920 writes this one. My buddies and I, when we were 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.319 younger, we're checking out this abandoned factory. 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.940 And when we first got there, my buddy was like, 00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:20.569 look, And we looked up and we saw an orb going 00:28:20.569 --> 00:28:23.369 across the field in front of the factory and 00:28:23.369 --> 00:28:26.390 then the next second we saw a seven plus foot 00:28:26.390 --> 00:28:29.789 white humanoid being looking thing chasing the 00:28:29.789 --> 00:28:32.829 orb. Let me tell you I've never seen such a thing 00:28:32.829 --> 00:28:36.230 ever before or again. The way the white figure 00:28:36.230 --> 00:28:39.589 moved was super frightening. We'll never forget 00:28:39.589 --> 00:28:42.609 that night my buddies and I ran so fast the two 00:28:42.609 --> 00:28:45.660 of us lost a shoe. This is all maybe a hundred 00:28:45.660 --> 00:28:48.599 feet in front of us and the tall white thing 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.029 that for sure was no regular human being. It 00:28:52.029 --> 00:28:55.049 was maybe 15 feet behind the orb chasing it, 00:28:55.210 --> 00:28:58.130 but what made it so frightening was how fast 00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.970 they were both moving. It was almost like they 00:29:00.970 --> 00:29:03.690 were in fast forward. I've never seen anyone 00:29:03.690 --> 00:29:06.869 or any other animal move that fast. The whole 00:29:06.869 --> 00:29:09.970 experience was definitely inhuman. I think about 00:29:09.970 --> 00:29:12.849 it often because it always raised questions for 00:29:12.849 --> 00:29:15.869 me and it helps me keep an open mind in today's 00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:19.220 world. End story. Doesn't that remind you of 00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:21.339 one of those weird Bigfoot stories? The Bigfoot 00:29:21.339 --> 00:29:25.140 gets weird stories, yeah. Yeah, doesn't it? And 00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:29.039 you know me, I love like quote unquote Bigfoot 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.539 get weird stories that you're never going to 00:29:31.539 --> 00:29:35.359 hear anywhere else because they just defy every 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.299 known aspect of reality outside of UFOs and stuff. 00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:42.519 They're just so bizarre. And I love it. Like, 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.460 what the hell is going on here? Oh, yeah, no, 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.319 it's Thankfully, that's not, like, looking at 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.220 you, but that would still be horrifying. Like, 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.559 it's got its own thing it's going after, but, 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.539 like, at any moment you could be spotted. Aw. 00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:57.940 Yeah, it's one of those things where in the end 00:29:57.940 --> 00:30:00.500 you go, thank God it didn't see me, but I can't 00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:03.099 get out of here fast enough. What the fuck did 00:30:03.099 --> 00:30:06.500 I just see? But yeah, I had to include that. 00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:09.059 I was so happy that I found this and I - I'd 00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:10.720 be very curious because he didn't really mention 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.900 where it was, correct? Other than like what they 00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:15.259 saw? Because like, Hammer St. Peter's really 00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:17.859 focuses on Canadian lore, but - He did. That's 00:30:17.859 --> 00:30:19.880 not necessarily Canadian lore because it's coming 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.779 from some comment on his stuff. No, and he - 00:30:23.779 --> 00:30:26.859 I can't remember, but yes. I went through the 00:30:26.859 --> 00:30:28.940 video and he kept saying, oh, where is this one 00:30:28.940 --> 00:30:31.460 from? And one was - They were all over the place, 00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:33.299 but when was next to Edmonton? I don't think 00:30:33.299 --> 00:30:35.039 it was this one, though. Well, that's Dear Man. 00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.960 Sorry. Yeah, that is Dear Man. Does Hammerson 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.759 Peters do Dear Man? He does not. As far as I 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.099 can tell, he does a lot, though. Maybe I should 00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:46.420 comment that he should do a Dear Man episode. 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:50.940 The next encounter is Mozambique. No, I'm not 00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:53.250 going to read you the title. Because I put the 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:56.369 links for the thing here for my reference. Don't 00:30:56.369 --> 00:30:59.410 read it Chelsea Okay, so I never thought I would 00:30:59.410 --> 00:31:02.410 find myself writing this for context I hold a 00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:06.089 doctorate in wildlife biology reside in Mozambique 00:31:06.089 --> 00:31:08.829 and spend a considerable amount of time in the 00:31:08.829 --> 00:31:13.049 ocean as A result I had to process that he's 00:31:13.049 --> 00:31:15.930 always in the ocean as a result I've encountered 00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:19.089 a fair share of everyday yet unusual phenomena 00:31:19.309 --> 00:31:21.849 The night before last I couldn't sleep so I went 00:31:21.849 --> 00:31:24.190 down to the living room sofa so I wouldn't wake 00:31:24.190 --> 00:31:27.230 my partner. Sitting on the couch I hear rustling 00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:30.170 in the front room. We have cats and two large 00:31:30.170 --> 00:31:32.750 dogs. We leave the front door open so they can 00:31:32.750 --> 00:31:36.089 come and go as needed. The house complex is guarded 00:31:36.089 --> 00:31:38.910 but the incident occurred around 3 .30am the 00:31:38.910 --> 00:31:41.329 night before last and the guard is likely half 00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:43.799 asleep in his hut. I mean, first of all, what 00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.700 the fu - I can't possibly imagine, especially 00:31:46.700 --> 00:31:49.579 in Mozambique, like sleeping with the door open? 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.920 I don't know about that. It's probably pretty 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.839 common. You gotta assume. What if you get like 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.400 some weird creatures in there? Like what's about 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.420 to happen? I don't want to spoil anything. I 00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:02.900 think the wrestling is the cats and think nothing 00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:05.799 of it, but start to feel uneasy. Some slight 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.380 movement in the mirror by the room's door catches 00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:11.880 my eye. I smashed my head around and saw something 00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:15.599 bipedal in the mirror. I saw a head with large 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.259 glowing eyes, shoulders, and two arms ending 00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:21.980 in what appeared to be claws, devoid of any coloration. 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.799 The whole body seemed the same pale grey except 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.640 for the yellow eyes that seemed to glow or reflect 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.259 the light from the room I was in. This was hanging 00:32:32.259 --> 00:32:34.900 from the roof on the other side of the door, 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.019 seemingly watching me through the mirror, our 00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:41.119 eyes locked for about three to five seconds before 00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.140 I leapt up. I can't even imagine making eye contact 00:32:44.140 --> 00:32:48.019 with this for that long. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's 00:32:48.019 --> 00:32:51.079 awkward with another human. Imagine this pulling 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.569 my growing in the process. I shout, nope, nope, 00:32:54.609 --> 00:32:57.009 nope, this is not real, this is not happening 00:32:57.009 --> 00:33:00.130 as I run out of the room. In my head, I want 00:33:00.130 --> 00:33:03.569 to ID it sensibly so I don't go crazy. The thing 00:33:03.569 --> 00:33:06.329 immediately moved fast, exiting the house around 00:33:06.329 --> 00:33:09.690 the same time as I exited the room. I then see 00:33:09.690 --> 00:33:12.650 a tremendous shape on the deck, running left 00:33:12.650 --> 00:33:15.089 to right before it literally appears to jump 00:33:15.089 --> 00:33:17.740 off into the night. I go upstairs and explain 00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:20.539 what happened to my partner. My hair is standing 00:33:20.539 --> 00:33:23.359 on end. I have constant shivers down my spine 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.220 and I end up in tears. I'm a big boy. I've chummed 00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:30.339 water for sharks, jumped in and take them with 00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:33.619 a spear gun, sampled whales with a crossbow off 00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:37.240 a speedboat, been around baboons. We don't have 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.240 them here and there, much smaller than what I 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.839 saw. And I am familiar with the smaller animals 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.240 that we see rarely at night here. This terrified 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.440 me. What terrified me more was the thought of 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:52.160 the white cement ridge beam row of blocks on 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.019 the ceiling that it was hanging from on the roof. 00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:59.059 And the two dirty marks I found the next morning. 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.680 No fingerprints or monkey paws. Just what is 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.940 usually marked from the bottom of the palms of 00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:08.119 your hands are dirty. Usually animals wouldn't 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.460 dare enter the garden due to the large dogs which 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:13.619 were sleeping in the bedroom with the cats the 00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:16.539 whole night again, weird as the dogs usually 00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:19.780 are perfect guards. I've asked some locals and 00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:22.039 they have a name for it in the local language. 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.260 They reportedly see a lot of unusual things in 00:34:25.260 --> 00:34:28.300 these communities. They said that sometimes when 00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:31.360 you see them running far ahead of you and then 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.980 they disappear and you turn around to find them 00:34:33.980 --> 00:34:36.960 coming up behind you. We've never seen anything 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.860 before save for an odd blue light out at the 00:34:39.860 --> 00:34:42.639 sea we wouldn't explain a while back but nothing 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:46.070 like this. There have been a spate of dog killings 00:34:46.070 --> 00:34:48.769 in the area lately. It was terrifying, but I 00:34:48.769 --> 00:34:51.269 didn't feel in any danger or likely wouldn't 00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:54.510 have gotten up. As a biologist, I've always been 00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:57.469 interested in overlooked signals. For example, 00:34:57.949 --> 00:35:00.349 many plants that appear dull and visible light 00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:03.949 can look quite unusual in infrared or other wavelengths 00:35:03.949 --> 00:35:06.809 of light. Something like that, specific times 00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:09.670 of light and light levels allow things to be 00:35:09.670 --> 00:35:12.980 seen that usually can't be. Interesting. from 00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:16.139 the UK originally never seen anything close to 00:35:16.139 --> 00:35:19.159 this the guys I work with knew what it was and 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.599 had seen something similar before the only thing 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.800 I recall is that it looked caught like an animal 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.679 with a light in its eyes and froze for a second 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.920 too either that or it took a moment to figure 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.440 out if I could really see it yeah it got awkward 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.260 yeah three minutes of eye contact will make anybody 00:35:35.260 --> 00:35:40.079 awkward Next one. I'm ready to talk. I've never 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.300 posted this anywhere, but I'm prepared to share 00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:45.420 my story I grew up in Pennsylvania specifically 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:48.260 in the central Pennsylvania Appalachian region 00:35:48.260 --> 00:35:51.559 You can probably figure out where I was as it's 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.300 the most wooded area in the middle of PA this 00:35:54.300 --> 00:35:58.599 happened between 2014 and 2016 I can't exactly 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.139 remember when but I know I was with my ex -girlfriend 00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.760 will call her Carrie I've talked about this to 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.559 maybe six people in my entire life so far and 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.599 I was around 13 or 14 at the time. I was leaving 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.340 work with my girlfriend's grandma. Being a typical 00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:14.599 teenager, I was trying to smooth talk my girl 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.000 as we drove to her grandma's house, which wasn't 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.900 far, maybe seven or eight miles. That's a phrase 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:24.539 I have not had in a long time. I could look it 00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:27.090 up, but I don't feel like it. Carrie's grandma 00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:29.650 owned a small BBQ restaurant where I worked, 00:36:29.809 --> 00:36:32.789 so I was used to seeing black bears and had even 00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:35.309 encountered one with mange. But I promise you, 00:36:35.369 --> 00:36:37.909 this wasn't what I saw. I've hunted my whole 00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:40.670 life, not proficiently, but I'm familiar with 00:36:40.670 --> 00:36:43.469 the local wildlife, including our scarce piebald 00:36:43.469 --> 00:36:46.250 deer population. And once again, this creature 00:36:46.250 --> 00:36:48.989 wasn't that. We were about 2 -3 miles from our 00:36:48.989 --> 00:36:51.449 house and had just turned off the main road onto 00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:54.469 a more minor side road that led directly into 00:36:54.469 --> 00:36:57.300 the woods and farmland. We had gone maybe a quarter 00:36:57.300 --> 00:37:00.360 mile down the road by an old pond I used to fish 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.980 at when something came out of the woods. It was 00:37:02.980 --> 00:37:05.900 pale, off -white and slightly hunched over. It 00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:09.000 wasn't huge, maybe five, six at the most, but 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.440 it could have been as short as four feet. It 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.039 was humanoid and I didn't see its face, but it 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.639 was definitely on two legs. It sprinted across 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.400 the road at a fast pace and jumped over a sign 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.980 that the homeowners of the lake had put up at 00:37:21.980 --> 00:37:24.820 the end of their deeply wooded driveway. Presumably 00:37:24.710 --> 00:37:28.690 to show off. What? Carrie's grandma quickly pulled 00:37:28.690 --> 00:37:31.530 over to the side of the road and, excuse my language, 00:37:31.710 --> 00:37:33.969 said, what the hell was that? And then it was 00:37:33.969 --> 00:37:37.230 gone. I never saw it again. I didn't see giant 00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:40.389 claws or glowing eyes or any sex organs. Wow. 00:37:40.889 --> 00:37:43.510 Good! Good on you, buddy. He good on him! I love 00:37:43.510 --> 00:37:45.639 - I love that, that's our first. He had the wherewithal 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.920 to check, well, he had genitals on the mind, 00:37:47.980 --> 00:37:52.179 let's face it. Yeah, well obviously. But that's 00:37:52.179 --> 00:37:54.980 our first, I think, that it's ever come up. This 00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:58.409 is incredible. Mark your calendar. Just a humanoid 00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:00.730 pale creature running on two legs and jumping 00:38:00.730 --> 00:38:04.090 over this gate. This was the early 2010s, so 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.829 of course, I thought I'd seen the rate. It wasn't 00:38:06.829 --> 00:38:09.730 moving at some unbelievable speed, and honestly, 00:38:09.929 --> 00:38:12.090 if we had been going faster, I probably have 00:38:12.090 --> 00:38:14.150 seen pictures of it wrapped around the bumper 00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:17.650 of her Hummer. What the fuck? Grandma's driving 00:38:17.650 --> 00:38:21.829 a Hummer? Yeah, they're teenagers. Grandma's 00:38:21.829 --> 00:38:25.219 probably in her late 50s at most. but it was 00:38:25.219 --> 00:38:28.079 fast like an adult man sprinting that's it i 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.599 never saw it again and never heard anything unusual 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.320 in the woods after that the coyotes disappeared 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.380 for a couple of months or at least they stopped 00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:38.059 howling oh i was gonna take this out because 00:38:38.059 --> 00:38:40.880 it kind of sucks but they do mention the sex 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.920 organs i'm cutting that one short because it 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.159 wasn't really going anywhere no Oh man, that's 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.760 uh, you gotta love teenage boys. They don't know 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.000 how to talk. Leave it to them that that's the 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.320 one that he comments on. Yeah. The genitals. 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.019 That's what I got. I think there are a variety 00:39:00.019 --> 00:39:02.980 of options for what this could be, including 00:39:02.980 --> 00:39:06.320 Tulpa. The sightings did start before the rake 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.639 was created, so maybe not. And the rake was created 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.719 out of mass consciousness pooling together, maybe. 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.019 So it could be paranormal, could be cryptid, 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.119 could be ultra -terrestrial, or extra -dimensional 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.920 being. could be Dear Man of Southern Alberta. 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.880 I think there's so many options for what the 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.639 crawler could be at this point and I think the 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.079 sightings that I included just leave so much 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.219 more openness to it because they really divide 00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:37.019 everything I think that we've covered as a cryptid. 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.079 Or maybe all of it. Encapsulated all of it. I'm 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.619 not really sure. Yeah and in fact we got what 00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:44.500 we've been looking for this whole time in this. 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.260 It's true. In that somebody finally looked at 00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:49.400 their junk and told us what was there. Which 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:55.679 was nothing. Yeah. So, I guess we're not getting 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.519 that email anymore. No, still look at the genitals 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.500 and emails, please. Still do it. You can still, 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:02.880 yeah. Yeah, you can still do it. You can be the 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.920 first to tell us. Yeah. The true people who know 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.380 what's going on. We'll start polling. We'll start 00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:10.059 a poll. Just do it. Do you have anything to add 00:40:10.059 --> 00:40:13.920 or say? Add and say. So, Lon, he covers quite 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.539 a bit of this, Lon Strickland, or is it? Strickler. 00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:19.349 Lon Strickler. i'm just wondering how like when 00:40:19.349 --> 00:40:21.090 he's covering these they're coming from all over 00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:23.489 the world for him or is he because he's mostly 00:40:23.489 --> 00:40:25.630 just american -based right or is that just like 00:40:25.630 --> 00:40:29.389 he is like he speaks english so you have to be 00:40:29.389 --> 00:40:32.849 able to like it's true it's true and i think 00:40:32.849 --> 00:40:35.929 a lot yeah he does like all of his are first 00:40:35.929 --> 00:40:37.449 -hand accounts like he's talked to the person 00:40:37.449 --> 00:40:39.429 who's had the sighting for the most part yeah 00:40:39.429 --> 00:40:41.989 they try to contact them back after and do a 00:40:41.989 --> 00:40:44.570 follow -up on it now i think there's a lot to 00:40:44.570 --> 00:40:47.820 be said it Hopefully future episodes. We've done 00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:50.280 a few where we look at other cultures. Cryptids 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.219 are so cultural based too, and we only have so 00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:55.900 much understanding of our own language, right? 00:40:55.980 --> 00:40:58.980 So much can be lost in translation. So much of 00:40:58.980 --> 00:41:02.019 our cultural experience can be tied into these 00:41:02.019 --> 00:41:04.800 creatures. And it's funny when they defy cultures 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:06.559 and stuff like that, there's really something 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.949 to it then at that point, but... Where I'm going 00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:12.110 with this is my very next encounter that I did 00:41:12.110 --> 00:41:14.570 have, which I think I'll save for another episode, 00:41:14.710 --> 00:41:19.030 was France, which is not that culturally different 00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:22.789 than North America as, say, like an Asian country, 00:41:22.949 --> 00:41:25.389 but still different country nonetheless, to answer 00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:27.469 your question. Okay. Well, no, that's the only 00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:29.449 thing I've had. Like I've seen crawler sightings 00:41:29.449 --> 00:41:31.409 before. And like I've said, there's movies out 00:41:31.409 --> 00:41:33.550 there, people purporting to have seen crawlers 00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:37.150 where they're the creepiest videos and I don't... 00:41:36.670 --> 00:41:38.650 care whether or not they're real or not because 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:40.670 they are just creepy. I know. Like that's why 00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:42.670 I'm watching them. They're creepy. Yeah. And 00:41:42.670 --> 00:41:45.610 it I think it's that kind of like uncanny valley 00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:50.090 effect where it's humanoid enough, but it's different. 00:41:50.349 --> 00:41:54.070 And that is something that is just like, I think, 00:41:54.369 --> 00:41:57.170 core to humans where if there's something just 00:41:57.170 --> 00:42:00.840 off. but it looks similar to us, it's creepy. 00:42:01.099 --> 00:42:02.039 And I think that's a big part of it. And that's 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.320 the thing about crawlers. Yeah. And the thing 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.320 about crawlers too is every single sighting is 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.599 somebody getting scared or it's creepy. There's 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.480 none that are just like awkward or they catch 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.960 it kind of dazed or like they don't know what 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.360 to think. No, it's everybody is creeped out or 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.699 scared. Yeah. And it has that overwhelming sense 00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:25.980 of dread, which you see with some certain cryptids 00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:29.000 or paranormal creatures for that matter which 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.440 gives it that like similar to the ghouls it's 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.980 I don't know where I'm going with that but yeah 00:42:34.980 --> 00:42:39.150 and on the train of thought that you're on scrolling 00:42:39.150 --> 00:42:43.630 through crawlers and rigs. So much found footage, 00:42:44.230 --> 00:42:48.369 so much AI, just so much made up stuff. I don't 00:42:48.369 --> 00:42:50.769 know why it goes hand in hand with this. You 00:42:50.769 --> 00:42:52.889 virtually see none of that with the Love Lamp 00:42:52.889 --> 00:42:55.570 Frog. It's all real footage. Why doesn't any 00:42:55.570 --> 00:42:58.340 - I know! But to be fair, we've tried doing AI 00:42:58.340 --> 00:43:01.539 images of the Loveland Frog, and AI just doesn't 00:43:01.539 --> 00:43:04.500 get it. It's true. No matter how hard you try, 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.920 it just can't capture the magnifique that is 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.260 Loveland Frog. He just has such a fantastic ass. 00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:17.460 Those thighs. I know. Anyhow. And the crawler 00:43:17.460 --> 00:43:20.320 definitely does not. Like, it's a Macy. We don't 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:21.639 have to worry about that. Such a terrible ass. 00:43:22.500 --> 00:43:24.840 Ass technology has only gone so far with the 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.360 AI we have. The Love Live Froggy's gonna win 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:33.519 any ass competition out there, hands down. That's 00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.480 probably a good place to stop. Chelsea, thank 00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.659 you for this episode. 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