let's go head over to the doc we got feel good
we got feel bad now with the same amount of bad
news we got pretty sure this is bad feeling uncertain
feeling like science which one feels the most
built up at this time i don't know what's this
one to be filed okay Let's do a 2B files. Yeah,
let's do that. That's a real wild card. Yeah,
it is. Let's just go for it. This one is postapocalypticmedia
.com. So this one is written by Stephanie. The
dark disturbing reason why Bigelow sold Skinwalker
Ranch. September 2nd, 2023. I think it's still
relevant. It's only two years, two and a half
years old. Yeah. I think we're good. We've done
further back. Yeah, exactly. Skinwalker Ranch
is not only the source of mysterious phenomenon
UFOs, but it's also been at the center of a heavily
funded federal government investigation that's
still classified to this day. I've never heard
that before. Maybe I didn't read the second book,
so I wouldn't know that. Brandon Fugel purchased
the ranch in April 2016 and revealed in a recent
interview that Robert Bigelow had a dark, disturbing
reason for selling the ranch and stepping away
from skinwalker research. Bigelow himself confirmed
the rumors in a recent interview last month.
Wait, was the rumor that it was for a dark reason
and he just said yes? Probably. Let's see what
Stephanie has to say. Fugel shared stories about
the ranch during an August 2023 Malty Hour interview
with The Sean Ryan Show on YouTube during the
interview. Why does The Sean Ryan Show keep coming
up? I have never heard of it. Where'd it come
up before? Previously. It's somebody I'm building
a script for keeps coming up on that show. That's
a weird coincidence. Yeah. I always love it when
things start showing up that you never heard
of before. Like that guy with the unfiltered
podcast, what was it, Gleisinger or something
like that? Lindmeyer or something? I don't know.
Well, maybe you'll find out once you do your
research. Find out about Sean Ryan. It'll be
a weird part of the episode, I'm sure. During
the interview, he revealed how he acquired the
ranch and why Robert Bigelow, the former owner,
had decided to sell it. Around 1 .21 in the interview,
Beagle shared that before acquiring Skinwalker
Ranch, he had worked with a young tech mogul
in 2009 to 2010 who had UFO encounters and thought
he had discovered technology that could enable
anti -gravity. Fugal devoted resources to ultimately
debunking the claim. Through the experience,
I developed relationships with a team of science
advisors that unbeknownst to me were simultaneously
advising an elusive billionaire out of Las Vegas
named Robert Bigelow, he shared. After he ended
the anti -gravity project in 2013, two of Fugal's
science advisors approached and asked if he would
like to meet with Bigelow about Skinwalker Ranch.
Fiegel said he made sure the science advisors
knew that he was a skeptic who just concluded
a project where they had debunked core claims
using scientific rigor. They were okay with that.
So we flew to Las Vegas to meet with Bigelow.
Bigelow's facility is the closest thing to a
James Bond villain lair I've ever seen. I like
that they say villain. Well, I think you have
to. Like James Bond's lair's not like that. That's
true. Yeah, but like you could - Does he even
have a lair? Not in the James Bond universe,
but you could say something else, not like a
villain's lair. Like a Batcave, per se? Implying
that he's - yeah, exactly. Implying that he's
like, not a good billionaire. Well, Chelsea,
those two words don't go together. Yeah. Like,
I think that's the position of the podcast. Yeah,
I do understand that, but Batman. Batman doesn't
exist and - Yes he does. There's a very good
argument out there that he's the whole reason
that supervillains exist in that society. I'm
curious as to why, but we only have so many times.
He creates socioeconomic problems through the
hoarding of his wealth that create the larceny
and general villainy in the society of Gotham.
Wow. I never thought about this about Batman
before. And instead of, you know, funding social
programs, he beats them up at night wearing a
mask. Huh. I'm seeing Batman in a whole new light.
Not that I ever really watch Batman. I do know
of him, though. Fugal said that he no villain
layer. He joked he joked. It's an incredible
facility I mean huge buildings that house full
-size space stations and space habitats They're
doing the material science and the life safety
testing and engineering the transaction for the
ranch was completely private What the hell those
two didn't seem to like lead to one another he
was not why wouldn't it be private what like
The only other option from that is the government
buy. I didn't see them buying. Yeah, this is
a weird. Is this an interview? Yeah, it's an
interview. He was not putting the property up
on the market for sale, Fugal clarified. This
was a very private transaction, private dialogue.
And I told him I would acquire the property as
long as my identity would be kept confidential.
But here we are doing this interview. I think
what they're basically saying is there was no
open house. Yeah, like it wasn't up for sale.
No, the realtor wasn't sitting on it coming up
with a game plan for like a month. Nobody's really
kicking the tires. Robbie, can we have like,
just do an open house every other weekend for
a while? Yeah, we really have to work this one.
I worked with legal counsel to structure the
entities that would shield my identity. I mean,
it's just getting weirder. They closed on the
property April 2016. Okay, so seven years before
this interview. Okay, so you had secrecy for
a while at least. For a while at least. And now
it's full disclosure. Fugel said he was surprised
at the shape the ranch was in when he bought
it. The septic system wasn't working, there were
no fiber optic connectivity, and reports were
simply transmitted by fax. For the first few
months he worked with Thomas Winterton and Jim
Morris to just build out the infrastructure.
Fugel said that when he acquired the ranch he
thought he would be finding prosaic explanations
for all the mysterious phenomena. He was quickly
proven wrong and later decided to no longer hide
his identity as the ranch owner. Bigelow was
interested in selling Skinwalker Ranch because
he was moving on to other interests, including
working with SpaceX Fugal shared. But he later
learned that there is more to the billionaire's
desire to leave the property behind. At around
2 .17 into the video, Fugal elaborated on what
he learned. Mr. Bigelow was actively engaged
with growing his aerospace company and and He
says and twice and and jumping into the private
space race Fugal said and the ranch he did we
don't know for sure Yeah to a degree it had faded
at the time I was led to believe that it was
simply because mr Bigelow was just buried very
busy with getting his p modules and his space
habitats up in orbit and ultimately on the moon
of Mars which I believe is true, but there was
more but also I've learned he ascribed negative
events afflicting his family to really his ownership
of the ranch, Pugel said. Mr. Bigelow blamed
the ranch for dark disturbing events that happened
in their lives, and it's not my story to tell.
It's been told by others in the media and advisors,
but owning the ranch was not a positive experience
for him. When Fugal asked to get access to some
of the data Bigelow had acquired while studying
the property with the government, Bigelow said
no. I just find it very odd that the paranormal
or whatever you want to call high strangeness
respects property rights that we created. Yeah.
Because he's not saying that this happened while
he was at the ranch. He's saying like his family
was just generally afflicted with a curse of
some kind due to owning it. Yep. You didn't know
that? In fee simple ownership. Didn't you study
that in law school? Yeah, how curses pass with
land. Yep. It's supposed to naturally flow with
the land. It's considered an attachment. Yeah.
He said, while I'm selling the property on an
as -is basis, I'm not willing to turn over any
data, and apparently all the curses that go with
it, Fugal recalled. Not that I just added that
in, I can't tell you that quote. That was me.
Not only because the ranch was part of a Pentagon
-funded black budget program. But what if the
curse was attached to the research? I feel like
Bigelow didn't think this through. That's true.
That's a really good point. But Bigelow might
be a little bit of an idiot. So not only because
the ranch was part of a Pentagon funded black
budget program between 2007 and 2013, but he
went on to say that he felt that he wanted to
keep that private. And I agreed. I didn't push.
I asked respectfully and I respected his response.
That's fucking far enough on this. And I do believe
the second Skinwalker book is called Skinwalker
Ranch at the Pentagon or something. So I'm led
to believe that it's mostly about that Pentagon
funded black budget program However, I did not
read it. So it's all hearsay. I haven't read
it either. Is it even the same authors? I have
no idea. I could not even guess at that. It might
be - And I know there's a Skinwalker Ranch TV
show, and it's a far swing from the actual, like,
first book. It's almost like it's created its
own franchise in the Heist Ranchers lore. Oh
yeah, those paranormal shows are absolutely shit.
Skinwalker Ranch, however, great book. Love that
book. Never got into the TV show and never read
the second book. So here we are at the end of
the mini. I kind of feel like even if he - telling
the story on the what Sean Ryan show it doesn't
sound very real no it kind of sounds like I don't
know Bigelow being a weird eccentric billionaire
made some sort of weird illusion or comment that
he like drew weird meaning from probably but
hey you guys got 48 hours I'm not gonna go listen
to it you guys go do it tell me what tell us
go do it thanks and we do enough work bye yeah
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