WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.660 I don't know how to feel about this article I 00:00:02.660 --> 00:00:06.160 found, but I can't not share it. So we're just 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.080 gonna go with it and you're gonna have to trust 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:10.599 I don't steer you wrong with articles. You know 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:13.140 what? It was hard for me to start trusting for 00:00:13.140 --> 00:00:15.619 some reason. I don't know why, but now I've come 00:00:15.619 --> 00:00:18.839 to trust. Except for that last one you did. Oh 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.420 man, that one was rough. That was a rough one. 00:00:21.539 --> 00:00:24.739 But the trust is still there now. This one is 00:00:24.739 --> 00:00:27.980 about the implications of cryogenically freezing 00:00:27.980 --> 00:00:30.339 people to bring them back. back to life at some 00:00:30.339 --> 00:00:32.299 time in the future. You're really bringing us 00:00:32.299 --> 00:00:35.399 a lot of content that is, we must judge the morality 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:37.780 of things. I feel like that's where this is going. 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.200 Continue. I don't think it's a heavy topic. It's 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:44.039 a weirdly fun one. I haven't read the article. 00:00:44.179 --> 00:00:47.219 I have merely read the headline and saw it was 00:00:47.219 --> 00:00:50.299 on, not the onion. So I had to read it to you 00:00:50.299 --> 00:00:52.700 all. It comes from a website called dexerto, 00:00:52.859 --> 00:00:56.939 d -e -x -e -r -t -o dot com, posted on November 00:00:56.939 --> 00:01:00.320 17th, 2025, written by Virginia Glaze. Article 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.079 title, man who cryogenically froze his wife finds 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.120 new love years later. I'm not really sure what 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:09.480 to make of this title, but I guess we have to 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.159 continue listening. A man who cryogenically froze 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.859 his wife in hopes of curing her lung cancer has 00:01:14.859 --> 00:01:17.400 found a new partner years later. It's a story 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.340 that feels straight out of a sci -fi novel or 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:22.959 a Batman movie with Mr. Freeze. In 2017, 57 -year 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.040 -old Gui Junmin made the decision to cryogenically 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.420 freeze his wife's body with the hope that in 00:01:28.420 --> 00:01:30.640 the future she could be potentially revived and 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.939 treated when a cure for her lung cancer had been 00:01:32.939 --> 00:01:36.879 found. His wife, Zhang Wenlian, famously became 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.299 China's first ever cryopreserved person. To this 00:01:40.299 --> 00:01:42.239 day, her body is still being stored at minus 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.920 196 degrees Celsius in a unit labeled container 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.739 in the Shandong Yin -Feng Life Science Research 00:01:49.739 --> 00:01:52.469 Institute. The institute, which was founded in 00:01:52.469 --> 00:01:55.469 2015, teamed up with Shandong University Chiru 00:01:55.469 --> 00:01:58.269 Hospital to start an experimental cryopreservation 00:01:58.269 --> 00:02:01.030 program for humans, offering to freeze early 00:02:01.030 --> 00:02:03.969 volunteers for free. When Wen Lian was diagnosed 00:02:03.969 --> 00:02:06.989 with terminal lung cancer in April of 2017, Jun 00:02:06.989 --> 00:02:09.389 Min made the decision to have her preserved as 00:02:09.389 --> 00:02:11.770 part of the program. Quote, when she left, my 00:02:11.770 --> 00:02:14.270 world collapsed, I didn't know what to do, end 00:02:14.270 --> 00:02:16.490 quote, he told news outlets, describing himself 00:02:16.490 --> 00:02:19.610 as a dreamer and fantasist. Shandong Yinfeng 00:02:19.689 --> 00:02:22.770 or Science Research Institute claims that Wenlian 00:02:22.770 --> 00:02:26.330 is in quote stable unquote condition saying her 00:02:26.330 --> 00:02:29.009 cellular structure has not undergone any abnormal 00:02:29.009 --> 00:02:31.569 fluctuations however she has been clinically 00:02:31.569 --> 00:02:35.949 declared quote unquote dead. While Junmin's heart 00:02:35.949 --> 00:02:38.169 -wrenching decision to preserve his wife in hopes 00:02:38.169 --> 00:02:40.870 of a future cure was equal parts shocking and 00:02:40.870 --> 00:02:43.090 saddening he's now being met with criticism for 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:46.750 refusing to wait for her resurrection. In November 00:02:46.750 --> 00:02:49.530 of 2025, Chinese news outlets discovered that 00:02:49.530 --> 00:02:52.129 Junmin had started dating again. Junmin himself 00:02:52.129 --> 00:02:54.210 confirmed that he has been living with his new 00:02:54.210 --> 00:02:56.889 girlfriend since 2020. He explained that he'd 00:02:56.889 --> 00:02:59.490 stayed single for two years but suffered from 00:02:59.490 --> 00:03:01.810 health complications that left him immobile without 00:03:01.810 --> 00:03:04.400 any help. Oh that's sad. without any help at 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.439 home. Mail Business Newspaper states that Junmin 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.560 suffered from a severe gout attack that caused 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.879 him to collapse. He was discovered two days later 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.759 after relatives broke down his door out of concern. 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:16.939 Quote, If something really happens when you're 00:03:16.939 --> 00:03:19.259 alone, there's nothing that person can do. No 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:22.080 one can know even if they die at home, end quote 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.419 Junmin said. He later met his current girlfriend, 00:03:24.699 --> 00:03:26.939 Wang Chun Sha, through an acquaintance describing 00:03:26.939 --> 00:03:29.300 her personality as kind and thoughtful like his 00:03:29.300 --> 00:03:31.860 late wife. Despite entering into a relationship 00:03:31.860 --> 00:03:34.560 with Chun Sha, Zhou Min said he remains committed 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.259 to his wife. Quote, she hasn't entered my mind 00:03:37.259 --> 00:03:39.580 yet. End quote. He said of his girlfriend, quote, 00:03:39.740 --> 00:03:42.460 I have a responsibility for her, but it's a complicated 00:03:42.460 --> 00:03:44.879 matter. She can never replace my wife. I can't 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.319 just forget the past, but I still have to live 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:49.400 my life. There should be an end quote there. 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.680 The situation has sparked debate on Chinese social 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.080 media platforms with one user writing, quote, 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.500 Now he's holding one woman in his arms while 00:03:57.500 --> 00:04:00.419 hoping to reunite with another in 30 years. What 00:04:00.419 --> 00:04:03.719 is this emotional polygamy? Question mark, end 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.539 quote. Quote, if that is the case, why start 00:04:06.539 --> 00:04:08.819 a new relationship? If you do, why not treat 00:04:08.819 --> 00:04:11.020 your new partner with genuine care? This kind 00:04:11.020 --> 00:04:14.080 of so -called devotion is not noble, it's selfish, 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.019 end quote, another remarked. This isn't the first 00:04:17.019 --> 00:04:20.759 strange case of separation to go viral. In October, 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.540 a Turkish man agreed to pay his ex -wife thousands 00:04:23.540 --> 00:04:25.779 of dollars in cat support as part of the terms 00:04:25.779 --> 00:04:27.480 of his divorce. And that's where the article 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.439 ends. We could probably have left that last part. 00:04:29.579 --> 00:04:34.620 What? What a weird place to end. I just I find 00:04:34.620 --> 00:04:38.220 that a fascinating implication of freezing a 00:04:38.220 --> 00:04:41.180 body to like bring it back to life in the future 00:04:41.180 --> 00:04:43.759 that like you kind of have to assume that life 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.019 stays the same for everybody involved in that 00:04:46.019 --> 00:04:48.860 situation until they find a cure or everybody 00:04:48.860 --> 00:04:51.600 dies in the meantime. and you come back hundreds 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:53.639 of years later. I don't think that you can hold 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.240 somebody like the, this is China right? Yeah. 00:04:57.339 --> 00:04:59.939 Like the media, the Chinese media is trying to 00:04:59.939 --> 00:05:03.240 do in the circumstance to a decision that was 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.740 made when they were grieving about how are they 00:05:05.740 --> 00:05:08.790 ever going to move on obviously. yeah and i'm 00:05:08.790 --> 00:05:11.769 also very curious about the whole process of 00:05:11.769 --> 00:05:14.449 like putting somebody cryogenic freezing it almost 00:05:14.449 --> 00:05:17.329 seemed like she was still alive when they put 00:05:17.329 --> 00:05:20.810 her under but also i doubt it i couldn't quite 00:05:20.810 --> 00:05:22.970 understand how they were describing it i know 00:05:22.970 --> 00:05:26.970 but like it did say she was clinically dead but 00:05:26.970 --> 00:05:29.250 you would think to be brought back if you were 00:05:29.250 --> 00:05:31.310 to be cryogenically frozen that you would have 00:05:31.310 --> 00:05:33.610 to be frozen alive i mean i guess it depends 00:05:33.610 --> 00:05:35.069 on where you think technology is going to be 00:05:35.069 --> 00:05:37.430 at in the future where it could resuscitate the 00:05:37.430 --> 00:05:40.449 body it would have to be at zombie level i would 00:05:40.449 --> 00:05:42.629 think anyhow yeah it's just like one of those 00:05:42.629 --> 00:05:45.089 weird implications of the decisions you make 00:05:45.089 --> 00:05:48.850 30 years down the line don't really match up 00:05:48.850 --> 00:05:50.930 with that yeah here's my other question what 00:05:50.930 --> 00:05:53.649 would they prefer him do like do you think he's 00:05:53.649 --> 00:05:56.269 paying rent for her this is like a black mirror 00:05:56.269 --> 00:05:59.509 episode by the way and if he were to move on 00:05:59.509 --> 00:06:01.670 are they expecting that he would be like you 00:06:01.670 --> 00:06:05.029 know just un -thar and What's barrier because 00:06:05.029 --> 00:06:07.529 now I move it like what what are they expecting 00:06:07.529 --> 00:06:10.189 here the article weirdly almost makes him like 00:06:10.189 --> 00:06:14.009 a celebrity or a star in China, from how they 00:06:14.009 --> 00:06:16.089 described it, but also he lived with this woman 00:06:16.089 --> 00:06:19.290 for five years before they kind of like noticed 00:06:19.290 --> 00:06:22.829 he was dating someone. It must have been a slow 00:06:22.829 --> 00:06:24.790 news day and they're just like, follow up on 00:06:24.790 --> 00:06:27.389 this guy, and they're like, no way, you're never 00:06:27.389 --> 00:06:29.949 gonna guess. Go look at all the cryogenic people's 00:06:29.949 --> 00:06:31.370 family members, see what they're up to. Yeah, 00:06:31.529 --> 00:06:34.069 you're never gonna guess, he's been living with 00:06:34.069 --> 00:06:40.079 a woman for five years now. I thought it was 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.500 a fun article. You can take those implications 00:06:42.500 --> 00:06:45.079 with you, I guess, for the rest of your listening 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.720 to this podcast episode has frozen a family member 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.560 or might be really awkward. A Bigfoot maybe though. 00:06:51.779 --> 00:06:54.540 I don't think it's cryogenically frozen if they're 00:06:54.540 --> 00:06:57.500 listening to this podcast episode. I think it's 00:06:57.500 --> 00:07:00.720 a deep freeze. It's definitely a deep freeze. 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.839 cryogenic chamber written in short B on it. Written 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.480 wrong. Written wrong on it. Yeah, it's spelled 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.360 totally wrong. Anyhow, you guys got 48 hours. 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.420 Maybe look into getting that Bigfoot properly 00:07:15.420 --> 00:07:18.639 stored for long -term care. So we could bring 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.259 it back. Anyhow, bye.