WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:14.699 us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:14.699 --> 00:00:17.559 to Journey to the Fringe, where the Fringe festivities 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.260 come to bear fruit. We are your podcast hosts, 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.000 Taylor and Chelsea, and today I need to set a 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.399 scene for you. It's Christmas Eve, fireplaces 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.519 crackle, and somewhere in the distance you hear 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.780 it. That unmistakable sound. Bells. Maybe it's 00:00:30.780 --> 00:00:33.140 Santa's sleigh gliding across the sky, or maybe 00:00:33.140 --> 00:00:36.140 it's something older, stranger. Tonight, we're 00:00:36.140 --> 00:00:38.619 following the sound of bells down a darker path, 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.159 because in the world of fringe folklore, bells 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:44.020 don't just signal joy. They warn, they lure, 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:46.560 they haunt. Oh boy. From the mournful toll of 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:49.020 the bell buzzard to the mimicry of swamp dwelling 00:00:49.020 --> 00:00:51.640 bell bottoms, the ghostly chimes of phantom churches 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.250 and fairy crossings, these are - These are the 00:00:54.250 --> 00:00:56.729 creatures that ring in the season with something 00:00:56.729 --> 00:00:59.369 far more chilling than cheer. So pour yourself 00:00:59.369 --> 00:01:01.490 some hot cocoa, hang your stockings with care, 00:01:01.530 --> 00:01:04.430 and maybe keep one ear open because not every 00:01:04.430 --> 00:01:07.049 bell you hear this Christmas is jingling for 00:01:07.049 --> 00:01:10.390 joy. Oh man. We're starting our dark descent 00:01:10.390 --> 00:01:13.390 not on a snowy roof but deep in the wetlands 00:01:13.390 --> 00:01:15.750 because not all bells are carried on the wind. 00:01:15.930 --> 00:01:19.370 Some ring from the water to draw you in. Our 00:01:19.370 --> 00:01:21.969 first cryptid is a creature that thrives on deception, 00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:25.379 a swamp dwellers whose chimes are the last sound 00:01:25.379 --> 00:01:28.459 its victims ever hear. Let's wade into the mire 00:01:28.459 --> 00:01:42.200 and talk about bell bottoms. grotesque semi -aquatic 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.280 cryptids believed to dwell in bogs, lake shallows, 00:01:45.500 --> 00:01:47.780 and abandoned irrigation trenches. Their names 00:01:47.780 --> 00:01:50.400 come from the distinctive bell -shaped bodies 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:53.420 which rise from the water like submerged traps. 00:01:54.099 --> 00:01:57.000 According to Erbellum's cryptid compendium, they 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.040 are part predator, part decoy creature that mimic 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.859 the sounds of whimpering prey or emit bell -like 00:02:02.859 --> 00:02:05.560 charms to lure the curious to the water's end. 00:02:05.700 --> 00:02:08.020 These creatures are said to have faces that shift 00:02:08.020 --> 00:02:10.879 or resemble the person's fear. or desires, making 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.800 them especially dangerous to the lonely or emotionally 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.319 vulnerable. Their presence is often marked by 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.060 muddy footprints, trembling dogs, or unexplained 00:02:20.060 --> 00:02:22.379 laughter echoing from beneath the surface. They 00:02:22.379 --> 00:02:25.479 are said to delight in secrets, especially those 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.120 spoken aloud near water. Some tales claim that 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.400 bell -bottoms can store voices and replay them 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.780 to confuse and lure victims. Weirdly enough, 00:02:32.900 --> 00:02:34.860 there's not a lot of writing about bell -bottoms. 00:02:34.979 --> 00:02:37.000 The Erbellum's cryptic convenium has pretty much 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.680 everything. And he goes into great detail about 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.979 the weaknesses and warts. So at least this one, 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.860 you can ward off. Okay, good. But it's a pretty 00:02:44.860 --> 00:02:47.080 terrifying creature, I would say. I didn't even 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.280 think that I shouldn't be telling my secrets 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.840 near water. I hate to know how many secrets have 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.039 been told there. Where else seems safer than 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:55.919 near the water to tell your secrets. It's true. 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.020 It seemed like the safest place to meet, so... 00:02:58.990 --> 00:03:01.810 That's where I was going. And I don't think there's 00:03:01.810 --> 00:03:04.110 anything creepier than a creature that knows 00:03:04.110 --> 00:03:06.909 and presents as all your worst fears. That's 00:03:06.909 --> 00:03:09.409 probably why he's a water monster, because I 00:03:09.409 --> 00:03:11.870 hate water. I mean, to you, yes. I guess that 00:03:11.870 --> 00:03:13.930 makes sense. Yeah. But Chelsea, don't worry. 00:03:14.069 --> 00:03:16.250 It seems fairly straightforward to ward off. 00:03:16.349 --> 00:03:18.550 All you need is a couple things. One of them 00:03:18.550 --> 00:03:21.030 can be dust of mustard. The primary weakness, 00:03:21.270 --> 00:03:23.550 sprinkling mustard powder near the water's edge 00:03:23.550 --> 00:03:26.069 is said to keep them at bay. What is that? Just 00:03:26.069 --> 00:03:28.860 mustard powder. Oh, like the spice? Yeah. Okay, 00:03:29.060 --> 00:03:31.620 I'm gonna go pack that up right after this episode. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:33.939 If that doesn't work, apparently iron buckets, 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.939 the sound of iron clanging disrupts their mimicry. 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.860 Also, if you have nothing on you, direct eye 00:03:39.860 --> 00:03:42.240 contact is said to make them recoil from being 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:46.419 seen clearly. Okay. And sunlight on reeds. Hopefully 00:03:46.419 --> 00:03:48.560 there's some reeds around. They avoid areas where 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.120 sunlight reflects off water. What a random list 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.300 of things. Yeah. Like how it goes from like you're 00:03:55.300 --> 00:03:57.400 not gonna have this around you to oh, yeah, just 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.590 look at Sometimes direct eye contact is the hardest 00:04:01.590 --> 00:04:03.610 thing to do though, especially if they're like 00:04:03.610 --> 00:04:05.810 weird looking. Yeah, but to be fair, they probably 00:04:05.810 --> 00:04:07.750 think you're weird looking too. It's true. It 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:09.710 just seems to be like socially awkward. So maybe 00:04:09.710 --> 00:04:11.789 they won't be able to look me in the eye. I don't 00:04:11.789 --> 00:04:13.550 know. Yeah. It seems like the hardest one. And 00:04:13.550 --> 00:04:15.509 it's funny because the details suggest a creature 00:04:15.509 --> 00:04:17.730 that thrives on deception and darkness, but fears 00:04:17.730 --> 00:04:19.670 clarity and confrontation. And that's, we're 00:04:19.670 --> 00:04:22.230 going from the least information to the most 00:04:22.230 --> 00:04:24.589 information in these stories. So that one, like 00:04:24.589 --> 00:04:27.129 I said, there was like one story on it. The next 00:04:27.129 --> 00:04:29.379 one too, we'll probably... do an episode on them 00:04:29.379 --> 00:04:32.040 on their own at a later point, but I had to include 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.240 them just because bells are something that's 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.339 associated with them. We're moving on from the 00:04:36.339 --> 00:04:38.819 Muddenmire from a bell that lures you into physical 00:04:38.819 --> 00:04:41.379 danger to something far more enchanting yet equally 00:04:41.379 --> 00:04:43.680 mysterious. In the British Isles, a bell can 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:45.540 signal a completely different kind of presence. 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.079 Instead of grotesque swamp dwellers, we're talking 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.740 about the delicate spectral chimes that signal 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.339 the passing of a fairy procession or the opening 00:04:53.339 --> 00:04:55.399 of a door to the other world. Now we're stepping 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.399 from the swamp into the twilight and air to talk 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.899 about fairies. In folklore, across the British 00:05:02.899 --> 00:05:04.660 Isles and beyond, the delicate chimes of bells 00:05:04.660 --> 00:05:06.939 have long been entwined with the presence of 00:05:06.939 --> 00:05:09.420 fairies. These spectral sounds, soft, melodic, 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.579 and often heard without a visible source, are 00:05:11.579 --> 00:05:13.720 said to signal the passing of a fairy procession 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.160 or the opening of a portal to the Otherworld. 00:05:16.339 --> 00:05:19.160 Known as fairy bells, these ethereal tones might 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.720 drift through the twilight air, luring wanderers 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:24.600 towards enchanted glades or fairy wreaths. In 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.220 some tales, the bells are instruments of enchantment. 00:05:27.389 --> 00:05:30.490 drawn the curious into a trance or marking the 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.009 movements when time slips sideways. The bells 00:05:33.009 --> 00:05:35.610 also serve as a paradox in fairy lore. While 00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:37.930 they can't summon or signal the faith, they're 00:05:37.930 --> 00:05:40.769 equally known as wards against them. In Celtic 00:05:40.769 --> 00:05:42.769 and Scandinavian tradition, the ringing of church 00:05:42.769 --> 00:05:45.790 bells were believed to drive away fairies, trolls, 00:05:45.970 --> 00:05:49.139 and other spirits. their sacred resonance disrupting 00:05:49.139 --> 00:05:51.620 the magic of the unseen. This duality, Bell's 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:53.680 as both invitation and banishment reflect the 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:55.959 complex, often contradictory nature of fairy 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.120 folklore. Even today, echoes of this belief persist 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.819 in modern pagan and druidic rites. Bells are 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:03.939 sometimes wrung during solstice ceremonies to 00:06:03.939 --> 00:06:06.819 call fairies to the circles or to mark transitions 00:06:06.819 --> 00:06:09.329 between worlds. In the natural world, Certain 00:06:09.329 --> 00:06:11.829 woodland flowers, like the bell -shaped campanula 00:06:11.829 --> 00:06:14.689 or dysporum, are known as fairy bells, believed 00:06:14.689 --> 00:06:17.310 to be used by fairies as hats, cups, or musical 00:06:17.310 --> 00:06:20.430 tools. Whether heard in the hush of a forest 00:06:20.430 --> 00:06:22.569 or imagined in the shimmer of moonlight, the 00:06:22.569 --> 00:06:25.350 sound of bells remains a potent symbol of the 00:06:25.350 --> 00:06:27.910 liminal, the magical, and the unseen. So the 00:06:27.910 --> 00:06:30.129 next time you hear a faint chime with no clear 00:06:30.129 --> 00:06:32.810 source, ask yourself, is it the wind or is it 00:06:32.810 --> 00:06:35.550 something older, stranger, and far more enchanting? 00:06:38.269 --> 00:06:41.250 We move now from the delicate spectral triumphs 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:43.889 of the British Isles to a much heavier more grounded 00:06:43.889 --> 00:06:46.470 kind of bell and across the ocean in the southern 00:06:46.470 --> 00:06:48.870 United States where there's no enchantment or 00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:51.370 otherworldly portal signaled by the sound. Here 00:06:51.370 --> 00:06:54.589 the bell is a simple mournful toll and it is 00:06:54.589 --> 00:06:58.370 an absolute undeniable harbinger of death. were 00:06:58.370 --> 00:07:01.709 leaving the twilight era's fairy crossings and 00:07:01.709 --> 00:07:04.069 stepping into the shadows of a truly unsettling 00:07:04.069 --> 00:07:08.430 American legend, the belled buzzard. The belled 00:07:08.430 --> 00:07:10.970 buzzard is one of the most haunting and peculiar 00:07:10.970 --> 00:07:13.829 figures in American folklore, particularly rooted 00:07:13.829 --> 00:07:16.430 in the southern United States during the 19th 00:07:16.430 --> 00:07:19.149 and 20th century. Described as a turkey vulture 00:07:19.149 --> 00:07:22.290 or buzzard with a bell inexplicably tied around 00:07:22.290 --> 00:07:24.829 its neck, this creature was more than just a 00:07:24.829 --> 00:07:27.759 curiosity, it was widely regarded as a harbinger 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.300 of doom. The eerie tolling of its bell, often 00:07:30.300 --> 00:07:33.000 heard before the bird was even seen, was believed 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.600 to signal an impending disaster. Communities 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.160 across Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, and beyond 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.199 reported sightings of the Bell of Buzzards as 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.220 early as the 1850s, with the legend gaining traction 00:07:43.220 --> 00:07:45.699 during times of crisis. One of the most chilling 00:07:45.699 --> 00:07:48.839 associations came in 1878 when the bird was reportedly 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:51.420 seen at Brownsville, Tennessee during a devastating 00:07:51.420 --> 00:07:54.879 yellow fever epidemic. By the 1880s and 90s, 00:07:55.060 --> 00:07:57.519 the belled buzzard had become a media sensation. 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.060 Small town newspapers across the South and Appalachia 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:03.699 chronicled its appearances, often linking them 00:08:03.699 --> 00:08:06.579 to local tragedies like floods, fires, or outbreaks 00:08:06.579 --> 00:08:09.339 of disease. In 1885, a sighting in Wheeling, 00:08:09.459 --> 00:08:11.519 West Virginia was followed by a deadly flood, 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.639 further cementing the bird's reputation as a 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.500 supernatural omen. Some articles speculated that 00:08:16.500 --> 00:08:19.139 pranksters had tied bells to buzzards for sport. 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:21.180 But others treated the creature as a singular, 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.439 possibly immortal entity. The legend even reached 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.360 national audiences when Irvin S. Cobb published 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:29.620 the story of the belt buzzer in the Saturday 00:08:29.620 --> 00:08:32.779 Evening Post in 1912. The 20th century brought 00:08:32.779 --> 00:08:36.000 more sightings, including a 1930s report in the 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.039 Troy Messenger of Alabama, where a witness recounted, 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:40.960 quote, I had often heard of such things, but 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.220 this was the first time I had ever seen a belt 00:08:43.220 --> 00:08:45.980 buzzer, end quote. In 1930, the Hagerstown Daily 00:08:45.980 --> 00:08:48.320 Mail in Maryland claimed the, quote, original 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.309 belt buzzer. buzzer, end quote, have been captured 00:08:50.309 --> 00:08:52.889 on a canal tilt path, and another sighting was 00:08:52.889 --> 00:08:55.529 reported nearby Wood Point the following year. 00:08:55.629 --> 00:08:58.370 These articles often featured vivid poetic language 00:08:58.370 --> 00:09:01.250 with one describing the bird's return as, quote, 00:09:01.269 --> 00:09:03.909 its mournful toll echoing across the valley, 00:09:04.110 --> 00:09:06.389 end quote. And Chelsea, here's just a smattering 00:09:06.389 --> 00:09:09.269 of articles from way back in the day about it. 00:09:09.269 --> 00:09:12.850 In the 1800s, there were dozens of articles across 00:09:12.850 --> 00:09:15.090 Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, 00:09:15.149 --> 00:09:17.309 Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina, 00:09:17.509 --> 00:09:19.210 where there They're talking about the birds tolling 00:09:19.210 --> 00:09:22.049 bell, said to precede fires, floods, or outbreaks. 00:09:22.289 --> 00:09:25.409 In Wheeling, West Virginia in 1885, a local newspaper 00:09:25.409 --> 00:09:27.690 described the buzzard flying overhead before 00:09:27.690 --> 00:09:30.490 a deadly flood reinforcing its ominous reputation. 00:09:30.750 --> 00:09:32.830 As I said earlier, the Troy messenger in Alabama 00:09:32.830 --> 00:09:35.690 reported a belled buzzard flying low over farms 00:09:35.690 --> 00:09:38.950 in 1913, with witnesses describing it as, quote, 00:09:39.149 --> 00:09:42.110 a small cast bell tied to its neck, end quote. 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:44.649 Farmers wondered who had belled the buzzer when 00:09:44.649 --> 00:09:49.049 and where. In Brownsville, Tennessee, in 1878, 00:09:49.409 --> 00:09:51.889 during a yellow fever epidemic, newspapers connected 00:09:51.889 --> 00:09:54.590 the belled buzzard to the calamities, cementing 00:09:54.590 --> 00:09:57.350 its role as a harbinger of doom. Quote, the belled 00:09:57.350 --> 00:10:00.230 buzzard has been seen again and death walks close 00:10:00.230 --> 00:10:02.889 behind. End quote. This chilling line connected 00:10:02.889 --> 00:10:05.590 the bird directly to devastating epidemics. From 00:10:05.590 --> 00:10:08.789 the 1912 Irving S. Cobb story, he says, quote, 00:10:08.889 --> 00:10:11.190 the belled buzzard is no myth. He's a feathered 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.529 fact and his tolling bell is the funeral knell 00:10:13.529 --> 00:10:16.769 of the South. End quote. in Woodpoint, Maryland, 00:10:16.870 --> 00:10:18.529 which I believe we mentioned earlier, quote, 00:10:18.750 --> 00:10:20.809 the Bell Buzzard has returned its mournful toll, 00:10:21.049 --> 00:10:23.110 echoing across the valley, end quote, and that's 00:10:23.110 --> 00:10:25.590 in February of 1931. Now, sightings of the Bell 00:10:25.590 --> 00:10:28.190 Buzzard faded dramatically after the early 20th 00:10:28.190 --> 00:10:30.549 century, and by the 1940s, a legend had largely 00:10:30.549 --> 00:10:33.169 disappeared from newspapers and public consciousness. 00:10:33.429 --> 00:10:35.600 Several Factors contributed to this decline. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.399 In the 19th century, small town newspapers often 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.980 blended fact and folklore, publishing sensational 00:10:40.980 --> 00:10:43.440 stories to entertain an alarm. As journalism 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.480 professionalized in the 20th century, editors 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.200 became less likely to print cryptic sightings 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.779 without art evidence and the bell buzzered once 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:53.340 a media darling lost his platform. The buzzard 00:10:53.340 --> 00:10:55.679 itself, a symbol of death and decay, lost its 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.000 folklore potency as newer cryptids and omens 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.220 emerged. Creatures like Mothman, Jersey Devil, 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.879 and Bigfoot captured public imagination with 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.049 more dramatic traits. That's true. The bell -buzzard, 00:11:06.250 --> 00:11:08.590 quiet tolling bell, couldn't compete with the 00:11:08.590 --> 00:11:11.169 glowing eyes and monstrous footprints. The bell 00:11:11.169 --> 00:11:13.629 -buzzard was deeply tied to oral storytelling 00:11:13.629 --> 00:11:16.090 in southern and Appalachian communities. As rural 00:11:16.090 --> 00:11:18.490 populations shifted and oral traditions waned, 00:11:18.610 --> 00:11:20.870 the legend faded. Without regular retelling, 00:11:21.029 --> 00:11:23.470 it became a historical curiosity rather than 00:11:23.470 --> 00:11:25.909 a living myth. Some sightings were debunked as 00:11:25.909 --> 00:11:28.929 pranks, too, with farmers or boys tying bells 00:11:28.929 --> 00:11:31.429 to buzzards for fun. And once this explanation 00:11:31.429 --> 00:11:33.509 gained traction, the mystery really lost its 00:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.220 edge. of unknown, belt buzzards became less compelling 00:11:37.220 --> 00:11:39.720 and died off. So there's not much talk about 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.039 it after the 1940s. That is a weird one. I don't 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:44.840 know what I think about that. It is. And though 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:46.779 sightings have ceased, the belt buzzard survives 00:11:46.779 --> 00:11:49.159 in folklore archives, regional ghost story collections, 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.820 and occasional cryptid forums. It remains a fascinating 00:11:51.820 --> 00:11:54.539 case study in how a simple anomaly, a bell on 00:11:54.539 --> 00:11:56.919 a bird, can evolve into a widespread omen of 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.480 death. His story also offered insight into the 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.720 role of media in shaping his insane encrypted 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.789 legend. We move now from the unsettling grounded 00:12:04.789 --> 00:12:07.470 toll of the belled buzzard, a bell that foreshadowed 00:12:07.470 --> 00:12:10.450 death on land, to a sound that is both lamented 00:12:10.450 --> 00:12:13.190 and a perpetual warning ringing from the depths. 00:12:13.389 --> 00:12:15.309 We're leaving the dry folklore of the American 00:12:15.309 --> 00:12:18.169 South for the coasts of Europe, where bells toll 00:12:18.169 --> 00:12:22.029 not from a bird, but... from entire lost civilizations. 00:12:22.070 --> 00:12:24.789 What? These are the sounds of divine judgment 00:12:24.789 --> 00:12:28.049 and vanished kingdoms. What? Like what kingdoms? 00:12:28.389 --> 00:12:31.190 Oh man, Chelsea, I had no idea that there are 00:12:31.190 --> 00:12:34.370 so many lost cities off the northwest coast of 00:12:34.370 --> 00:12:37.769 Europe. There is? See, I was thinking where you're 00:12:37.769 --> 00:12:40.070 going with this was maybe like a ghost ship, 00:12:40.110 --> 00:12:43.330 like with a foghorn or something. Oh, maybe. 00:12:43.330 --> 00:12:45.970 But no, it's a lost civilization. Across Europe 00:12:45.970 --> 00:12:48.429 and North America, legends about church bells. 00:12:49.419 --> 00:12:52.320 that continue to ring from beneath the earth 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.519 or water. In France, the sunken city of Ys is 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.820 said to toll its bell from beneath the waves 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:03.519 during storms. In England and Wales, tales speak 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.039 of submerged villages as well, whose bells can 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.500 still be heard on quiet nights in May, a time 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:10.860 associated with thin rounderies between the world. 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.960 These bells are often tied to moral warnings, 00:13:14.139 --> 00:13:16.620 towns that sank due to sin or pride, with the 00:13:16.620 --> 00:13:18.720 bells serving as eternal reminders of divine 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.669 judgment. So Chelsea, I'm going to tell you now 00:13:20.669 --> 00:13:24.450 about the lost city of Ys. So Ys, spelled Y -S, 00:13:24.730 --> 00:13:27.730 of course, is said to have been a magnificent 00:13:27.730 --> 00:13:30.809 city built below sea level on the coast of Brittany, 00:13:30.990 --> 00:13:33.289 protected by a massive dike with gates that opened 00:13:33.289 --> 00:13:36.350 at low tide to allow ships into bustling ports. 00:13:36.649 --> 00:13:40.049 It was ruled by King Gradlin, a pious and noble 00:13:40.049 --> 00:13:42.669 monarch, and his daughter Princess Dehut, whose 00:13:42.669 --> 00:13:45.629 wild and hedonistic ways ultimately led to the 00:13:45.629 --> 00:13:47.759 city's downfall. There are multiple versions 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.580 of the legend, but most agree on these core elements. 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.360 Dahut, often portrayed as a sorceress or seductress, 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.820 hosted lavish parties and took lovers nightly. 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.019 One night, she stole her father's key to the 00:13:59.019 --> 00:14:01.820 dyke gates and either through drunken revelry 00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:04.120 or deliberate sabotage, opened the gates during 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.720 high tide, allowing the Atlantic Ocean to flood 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:15.129 the city. As the waters rose, St. Winowola I 00:14:15.129 --> 00:14:23.309 like all of those versions. I can't choose. Now, 00:14:31.129 --> 00:14:33.149 one of the most haunting elements of the legend 00:14:33.149 --> 00:14:36.149 is the claim that the bells of ease still toll 00:14:36.149 --> 00:14:38.830 beneath the waves, especially during storms or 00:14:38.830 --> 00:14:42.500 at twilight. Locals in the Bay de Dornanez or 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.100 Dornene, I don't know, it's French, where Ys 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:47.620 is said to lie have reported hearing phantom 00:14:47.620 --> 00:14:50.100 chimes echoing from the depths. These spectral 00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:52.360 sounds are interpreted as either a warning or 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.700 a lament, a reminder of the city's hubris and 00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:57.299 loss. The city of Ys is widely regarded as a 00:14:57.299 --> 00:15:00.419 mythical place and not a historical or archaeological 00:15:00.419 --> 00:15:02.860 reality, and while it holds a powerful place 00:15:02.860 --> 00:15:05.259 in Breton folklore, there is no concrete evidence 00:15:05.259 --> 00:15:07.779 that Ys ever physically existed beneath the Bay 00:15:07.779 --> 00:15:11.220 of Dornene or anywhere else along the coast of 00:15:11.220 --> 00:15:13.539 Brittany. So just keep that in mind. The story 00:15:13.539 --> 00:15:16.440 of Ys is rich in Christian symbolism and moral 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.639 themes, pride, sin, divine punishment, which 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.139 suggests it's functioned as a cautionary tale 00:15:21.139 --> 00:15:23.399 rather than a historical account. And the character 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.019 of Princess Dahut, often blamed for the city's 00:15:26.019 --> 00:15:27.799 destruction, embodies the archetype of the dangerous 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.460 Temptress, a common figure in medieval Christian 00:15:30.460 --> 00:15:33.100 storytelling. Likely not a true story, but there's 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:36.980 still every now and then a rumor of bells ringing 00:15:36.980 --> 00:15:40.340 off the coast of France for the lost city of... 00:15:40.379 --> 00:15:43.779 Still creepy. And hey, the British Channel, or 00:15:43.779 --> 00:15:45.320 what do you call that? Is it the French or the 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.179 British Channel between them? I don't know. The 00:15:48.179 --> 00:15:52.340 channel between the UK and France. It's not the 00:15:52.340 --> 00:15:56.840 only lost city in the channel between France 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.159 and the UK. There is also the city of Lyonais. 00:16:00.460 --> 00:16:03.679 I believe it's said that way. It's L -Y -O -N 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.320 -E -S -S -E. So the lost city of Lyonais... was 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.019 believed to stretch from the lands ending Cornwall 00:16:10.019 --> 00:16:13.919 to the Isle of Sili, occupying fertile plains 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.700 and coastal towns. According to legend, it boasted 00:16:16.700 --> 00:16:20.220 over 140 churches, flourishing villages and orchards, 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.460 a towering cathedral, possibly built atop what 00:16:23.460 --> 00:16:26.179 is now the Seven Stones Reef. This reef, located 00:16:26.179 --> 00:16:29.299 about 18 miles west of Land's End, is still marked 00:16:29.299 --> 00:16:31.460 on nautical charts and considered treacherous. 00:16:31.580 --> 00:16:33.580 Some say it's the last remnants of the drowned 00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:37.000 kingdom. Now, Leonas is most famously known as 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.200 the home of Sir Tristan, one of the Knights of 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:41.840 the Round Table, and central figures in the tragic 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.139 romance of Tristan and Izyold. I don't know how 00:16:44.139 --> 00:16:46.500 to say that either, geez. I didn't think these 00:16:46.500 --> 00:16:49.360 names would be so hard. In some of the versions 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.799 of the Thurian Cycle, Leones is portrayed as 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.379 a noble and powerful kingdom deeply tied to the 00:16:55.379 --> 00:16:58.419 fate of Camelot. The legend says Leones was swallowed 00:16:58.419 --> 00:17:00.960 by the sea in a single night with no survivors 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.339 except one man, Trevillion, who escaped on horseback 00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:06.579 and gave rise to the Cornish Trevillion family. 00:17:06.859 --> 00:17:08.940 The cause of the flood varies. Some say divine 00:17:08.940 --> 00:17:11.700 punishment for sin or pride, a natural disaster 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:14.400 like a massive tidal wave, or a magical collapse 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.119 tied to the fall of Camelot. Local fishermen 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.519 have long claimed to hear phantom church bells 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.920 ringing beneath the waves during storms. Some 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.619 maps even mark reefs with names like city and 00:17:24.619 --> 00:17:27.480 court, hinting at submerged structures. And the 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.599 third one are, of course, Pantergwyllodd. I can't 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:35.039 say it because this is a Welsh Atlantis. Cantergwelod 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.000 is a legendary sunken kingdom said to also lie 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.599 beneath this area in the Cardigan Bay off the 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.039 west coast of Wales. According to the myth, it 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.539 was once a fertile lowland protected by seawalls 00:17:45.539 --> 00:17:48.559 and sluice gates. The kingdom's downfall came 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.980 when Sethanen, a drunken gatekeeper, failed in 00:17:51.980 --> 00:17:54.500 his duty allowing the sea to flood the land and 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:56.500 drown the cities. One of the most enduring elements 00:17:56.500 --> 00:17:58.940 of the legend is the haunting sound of bells. 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.019 Welsh folklore holds that on quiet nights or 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:04.859 during storms, the bells of Cantigwold churches 00:18:04.859 --> 00:18:07.579 can still be heard ringing from beneath the waves. 00:18:07.859 --> 00:18:09.980 These ghostly chimes are said to echo across 00:18:09.980 --> 00:18:12.519 the bay, a mournful reminder of the kingdom's 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.339 tragic fate. There's even a traditional Welsh 00:18:15.339 --> 00:18:17.700 poem that captures its haunting imagery. Beneath 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:20.880 the sea and its waves are many cities fair that 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.720 used to listen to bells ringing at coming night. 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:26.839 The bells of Cantigwald vanish beneath the water. 00:18:27.069 --> 00:18:29.569 I find it really interesting how many sunken 00:18:29.569 --> 00:18:33.289 cities with haunted bells are in this area, when 00:18:33.289 --> 00:18:35.869 this is something I really never heard of before. 00:18:36.089 --> 00:18:38.150 That's a fair point. And they all seem to be 00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:41.089 like Atlantis -esque. Like they were pretty prominent 00:18:41.089 --> 00:18:43.450 places and then just sunk. Well, it's funny that 00:18:43.450 --> 00:18:45.769 they would place those kind of important cities 00:18:45.769 --> 00:18:48.769 below sea level. Yeah, but they kept doing it. 00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:53.329 Yep. But of course, undersea church bells aren't 00:18:53.329 --> 00:18:57.460 the only type of phantom church bells. On a cold 00:18:57.460 --> 00:18:59.960 October morning in the late 1800s, the quiet 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:02.039 streets of Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.339 were startled awake by the unexpected tolling 00:19:04.339 --> 00:19:06.500 of the church bell at the Kirk of St. James, 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.460 a historic Presbyterian church built in 1878. 00:19:09.700 --> 00:19:12.359 The bell rang out clearly and deliberately. Yet 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.339 when townspeople arrived to investigate, they 00:19:14.339 --> 00:19:16.720 found the church locked and empty. No one had 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.740 been scheduled to ring the bell and no one was 00:19:18.740 --> 00:19:21.900 inside. Witnesses claimed to have seen four ghostly 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:24.500 women in the bell tower, their forms faint and 00:19:24.500 --> 00:19:26.980 shimmering. in the early morning light. The figures 00:19:26.980 --> 00:19:29.240 were described as solemn, their presence eerie, 00:19:29.299 --> 00:19:31.480 but not malevolent. The townspeople were shaken, 00:19:31.819 --> 00:19:33.519 unsure what to make of the strange occurrence. 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:35.900 Later that same day, news arrived that a ship 00:19:35.900 --> 00:19:38.779 had gone down in the Northumberland Strait between 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:41.880 Charlottetown and Pictou, Nova Scotia. Tragically, 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.299 four women perished in the wreck, the same number 00:19:44.299 --> 00:19:46.519 as the spectral bell ringers seen that morning. 00:19:47.140 --> 00:19:49.420 The coincidence was too eerie to ignore, and 00:19:49.420 --> 00:19:51.619 the story quickly took root in local legend. 00:19:51.710 --> 00:19:54.210 Over the years the tale of the phantom bell ringers 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:57.309 has been retold as a supernatural omen, a ghostly 00:19:57.309 --> 00:19:59.569 warning of a pending tragedy. Some believe the 00:19:59.569 --> 00:20:02.150 spirits were trying to alert the town to the 00:20:02.150 --> 00:20:04.609 disaster at sea. Others interpret the event as 00:20:04.609 --> 00:20:07.410 a moment where the veil between worlds thinned 00:20:07.410 --> 00:20:09.650 allowing the dead to reach out in one final act 00:20:09.650 --> 00:20:12.220 of communion. Yeah, I see that one. The Kirk 00:20:12.220 --> 00:20:14.759 of St. James remains a function in church today 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.579 and while the bell no longer rings on its own, 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.920 the legend lives on. Visitors and locals alike 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.119 still speak of the fateful morning and some claim 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.380 that on quiet autumn days, if you listen closely, 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.660 you might still hear the fateful toll of the 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:29.819 bell and wonder who or what is ringing it. And 00:20:29.819 --> 00:20:32.799 we move now from the spectral tolling of ancient 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.519 sunken kingdoms to a sound that is chillingly 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:37.799 modern, deeply personal, and terrifyingly real. 00:20:37.690 --> 00:20:40.109 Sometimes the bell you hear isn't an echo of 00:20:40.109 --> 00:20:43.069 a tragic past or a supernatural warning from 00:20:43.069 --> 00:20:45.490 the elements. It's a deliberate sound made by 00:20:45.490 --> 00:20:47.769 a figure lurking in the shadows. We aim the jury 00:20:47.769 --> 00:20:50.329 with an account that came straight from the internet. 00:20:50.890 --> 00:20:54.130 A true horror story that brings malevolent powers 00:20:54.130 --> 00:20:56.509 of the bell from folklore right into the deep 00:20:56.509 --> 00:21:00.150 dark woods of a young woman's summer. This is 00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:03.430 a story from Reddit. It's from the subreddit 00:21:03.430 --> 00:21:05.529 Let's Not Meet, which apparently is supposed 00:21:05.529 --> 00:21:08.509 to be your true horror stories. So I can't confirm 00:21:08.509 --> 00:21:12.529 this story for real. It was posted five years 00:21:12.529 --> 00:21:18.529 ago. Ding! Wilhame Baudelaire, titled, Man in 00:21:18.529 --> 00:21:20.910 Forest Kills Animals and Chases After Me While 00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:27.039 Ringing Bells in the Dark. And this is not the 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.700 whole telling of the story. I did use an AI to 00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:32.359 shorten it because it was incredibly long, but 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.980 we get the gist of it still. While home from 00:21:34.980 --> 00:21:37.660 university for the summer, I returned to a secluded 00:21:37.660 --> 00:21:40.200 forest trail I'd known since childhood. Dense 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:42.920 woods, winding streams, and a man -made lake 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:45.599 surrounded by silence. On my first solo walk, 00:21:45.740 --> 00:21:47.619 I reached a stream and knelt to run my hands 00:21:47.619 --> 00:21:49.759 through the water, when I heard it. A bell ringing 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:51.700 from somewhere to the north. It wasn't a light 00:21:51.700 --> 00:21:54.400 jingle like a dog collar. It was heavy, deliberate, 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:57.660 and rang with a strange urgency. I listen curious. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.319 Sorry, go ahead. No, I'm just trying to picture 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.539 the bell. I was picturing a gong at first. Yeah, 00:22:02.539 --> 00:22:04.880 I feel like it's a town crier one. Yeah, I think 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:06.960 you're right. At first I was going with a gong, 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.579 but I don't think that's the right feel for the 00:22:09.579 --> 00:22:11.920 story. I think it's a town crier bell. Yeah, 00:22:11.980 --> 00:22:15.450 okay. I listened curious and began walking towards 00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:18.069 the sound. It moved as I moved, always just out 00:22:18.069 --> 00:22:20.150 of reach until it stopped abruptly after five 00:22:20.150 --> 00:22:22.410 minutes. I tried to rationalize it, maybe a lost 00:22:22.410 --> 00:22:24.430 hunting dog, maybe something caught in a tin, 00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:27.029 but nothing made sense. Then I found the badger. 00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:30.089 It was freshly dead, decapitated with precision, 00:22:30.609 --> 00:22:32.589 the wound crawling with maggots, but not yet 00:22:32.589 --> 00:22:35.509 fully decomposed. It had clearly been killed 00:22:35.509 --> 00:22:38.150 with a knife. The bell had followed the stream 00:22:38.150 --> 00:22:41.329 and so had I. The badger had been placed or killed 00:22:41.329 --> 00:22:44.630 along the same path. I felt a chill but pushed 00:22:44.630 --> 00:22:47.210 the thought aside and made my way home. A week 00:22:47.210 --> 00:22:49.390 later I went back. It was raining heavily and 00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:52.089 I left around 6pm, planning to return before 00:22:52.089 --> 00:22:54.470 dark. I reached the river and then turned back 00:22:54.470 --> 00:22:57.410 as the light began to fade. The forest was loud 00:22:57.410 --> 00:23:00.130 with rain, and I was moving quickly, head down, 00:23:00.170 --> 00:23:01.930 when I collided with something hanging from a 00:23:01.930 --> 00:23:04.329 tree. It was the badger. But now its head had 00:23:04.329 --> 00:23:06.789 been tied grotesquely to its front paws. The 00:23:06.789 --> 00:23:09.309 whole thing strung up like a sick ornament. It 00:23:09.309 --> 00:23:11.869 was dripping green fluid, and I was soaked in 00:23:11.869 --> 00:23:14.630 it. I gay, confused by the mix of rain and rot. 00:23:14.750 --> 00:23:16.829 And then it hit me. Someone had done this after 00:23:16.829 --> 00:23:19.230 I passed by earlier. Someone had been watching 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:21.349 me. And then the bell rang again. This time it 00:23:21.349 --> 00:23:23.529 was louder, more persistent, echoing through 00:23:23.529 --> 00:23:25.960 the trees. I called my dad in a panic. told him 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.400 to meet me at the bend in the path, the closest 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:30.640 point to where I was. I started running, but 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:32.759 the bell kept ringing, on and off, surrounding 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.119 me. Every sound was muffled by the rain, and 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:37.539 I felt like I was moving through a dream. I couldn't 00:23:37.539 --> 00:23:39.920 breathe properly. I couldn't think. I was crying, 00:23:40.099 --> 00:23:42.259 stumbling, coughing, trying to stay upright as 00:23:42.259 --> 00:23:44.660 I ran. My mom stayed on the phone, shouting that 00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:47.079 they were close. I kept hearing things, branches 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.299 snapping, faint movements, but I couldn't tell 00:23:49.299 --> 00:23:51.700 what was real. Then I heard it, clear footsteps 00:23:51.700 --> 00:23:54.119 behind me and the bell louder than ever. I turned 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.279 and saw him, a tall figure at the edge of the 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.500 clearing, slowly creeping towards me, ringing 00:23:58.500 --> 00:24:00.559 a bell in front of his chest. He was staring 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.140 straight at me. I ran harder than I ever have 00:24:03.140 --> 00:24:05.180 in my life, screaming that I was on the phone 00:24:05.180 --> 00:24:07.140 with the police and that my dad was nearby. I 00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:09.740 didn't dare look back again. I was soaked, breathless 00:24:09.740 --> 00:24:12.200 and terrified. My phone felt like my only lifeline. 00:24:12.380 --> 00:24:14.299 I dropped my bag without realizing. The bell 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:16.640 kept ringing and I could feel it in my bones. 00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:19.039 Then I heard my dad's voice. He was close, calling 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.359 my name. I ran towards him and practically collapsed 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.579 into his arms and he heard the bell too. My mom's 00:24:23.579 --> 00:24:25.180 still on the phone. I heard it through the speaker. 00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:27.460 We didn't wait around. We got in the car and 00:24:27.460 --> 00:24:30.309 left. To this day, I do not know who that man 00:24:30.309 --> 00:24:32.589 was, what he wanted, or if he's still out there 00:24:32.589 --> 00:24:34.529 in these woods. But I know what I heard. The 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:36.809 bell wasn't just a sound. It was a warning, a 00:24:36.809 --> 00:24:39.309 lure, a present. And I've never gone back. And 00:24:39.309 --> 00:24:42.809 that's the end of that one. Interesting. Interesting 00:24:42.809 --> 00:24:45.289 choice. At one point I was picturing that it 00:24:45.289 --> 00:24:48.650 was just a bell that was killing like the badger. 00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:51.690 Just turning it up. Oh, okay. Yeah. But then, 00:24:51.970 --> 00:24:54.470 of course, it was a man just ringing a bell. 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:59.299 Holding it, of course. To be fair, they describe 00:24:59.299 --> 00:25:02.099 the person as a bell, like a person holding a 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.940 bell, but we don't get a good description, so 00:25:03.940 --> 00:25:08.019 it's hard to say whether or not it could have 00:25:08.019 --> 00:25:11.099 been a shadow person. It could have been a shadow 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:15.279 person full of bells shaped in a person shape. 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:19.460 Yeah. Just saying. So this holiday season, as 00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:22.059 sleigh bells jingle and carols echo through frosted 00:25:22.059 --> 00:25:24.500 streets, remember not every bell is a symbol 00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:27.359 of joy, some toll from beneath the sea, some 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:31.279 from sunken kingdoms like... Some ring from phantom 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.839 towers, warning a tragedy yet to come. Some chime 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:35.960 from the shadows of the forest, held by hands 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.019 that should not exist. Whether it's the bell 00:25:38.019 --> 00:25:40.859 buzzers circling overhead, the swamp -born mimicry 00:25:40.859 --> 00:25:42.779 of the bell bottoms, or a lone figure in the 00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:45.019 woods ringing a bell just for you, these stories 00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:47.619 remind us that sound can be more than festive, 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.460 it can be a lure, a warning, a presence. Thanks 00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:52.940 for joining us in this winter's walk through 00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:55.220 the uncanny, and if you hear a bell tonight, 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.920 maybe it's Santa, maybe it's something else entirely. 00:25:58.539 --> 00:26:01.059 I have been Taylor, here with Chelsea. 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