WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane. Come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:15.500 us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:15.500 --> 00:00:18.359 to Journey to the Fringe. We're the strangest 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:20.640 standard and the unexplained is just a Tuesday. 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:24.079 Anyhow, we're here on a Friday, 48 hours well 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:26.780 after you've decided on your veganism. Here today 00:00:26.780 --> 00:00:29.239 with a Chelsea episode. We are your podcast host, 00:00:29.420 --> 00:00:32.109 Taylor and Chelsea. Just like letting Chelsea 00:00:32.109 --> 00:00:35.450 do her thing now. That was amazing. And it's 00:00:35.450 --> 00:00:39.530 official. We foretold the future regular person 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:42.729 Andy is now regular person Andy. I believe our 00:00:42.729 --> 00:00:45.630 last update was on regular person Andy being 00:00:45.630 --> 00:00:49.469 able to travel again. What with the non -release 00:00:49.469 --> 00:00:53.070 of the Epstein files thing. But things are looking 00:00:53.070 --> 00:00:56.590 down. Way down for regular Andy now. The question 00:00:56.590 --> 00:00:59.829 is less can he travel and more should he travel? 00:01:00.539 --> 00:01:03.700 I think his future is looking really uncertain 00:01:03.700 --> 00:01:07.159 right now. He's really looking into brain again. 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.959 And while we don't generally cover topical news, 00:01:12.500 --> 00:01:15.859 I think we're okay on this one to make an exception 00:01:15.859 --> 00:01:19.219 because we've been following him for quite a 00:01:19.219 --> 00:01:22.620 while now and I just want to revel in the downfall 00:01:22.620 --> 00:01:25.760 that he's... Currently going through can I just 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.480 yeah, can I just add this point? I've learned 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.299 so much about British Andy in this little bit 00:01:31.299 --> 00:01:34.640 of time Specifically that like his real name, 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.819 which I can't remember in any way But he's got 00:01:37.819 --> 00:01:40.060 a real name a real full name that he has to go 00:01:40.060 --> 00:01:43.079 by it's not his real name It was a name that 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.400 he is being forced to go by now and I think I 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:48.819 don't think anybody knew it It was just they're 00:01:48.819 --> 00:01:54.450 like we got to give them something You don't 00:01:54.450 --> 00:01:57.170 think they mad lived it, do you? Because that 00:01:57.170 --> 00:01:59.900 does feel like... what the upper class British 00:01:59.900 --> 00:02:02.480 people might madly they might have because there's 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.420 no circumstance in which regular person Andy 00:02:05.420 --> 00:02:08.060 was born into this world where he was ever gonna 00:02:08.060 --> 00:02:11.699 go by this and he found it so we'll talk about 00:02:11.699 --> 00:02:14.520 it today I thought I would do a full episode 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.860 on what's going on up until this very point because 00:02:17.860 --> 00:02:21.219 I did update it today not only because this is 00:02:21.219 --> 00:02:23.360 a story we've been following since I think pretty 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:26.659 much our inception but also because I've just 00:02:26.659 --> 00:02:29.860 finished The Rise and Fall of the House of York 00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:33.180 and the Virginia Jeffrey memoir Nobody's Girl 00:02:33.180 --> 00:02:37.479 both very different reads So in honor of my reading 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:40.719 a book I have collected some articles to go through 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.520 on this episode to highlight some of the goings 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:46.620 -on of regular person Andy by the time this comes 00:02:46.620 --> 00:02:49.919 out there may be Many more things going on with 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.419 him. So let's just jump right in October 15th. 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.939 Andrew emails show contact with Epstein lasted 00:02:56.939 --> 00:03:00.020 beyond 2010 and I should tell you right now I've 00:03:00.020 --> 00:03:02.419 ordered these in chronological order. I'm giving 00:03:02.419 --> 00:03:04.319 you the title and then I'll give you a summary. 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.740 Yeah and it's not when it's coming out it's when 00:03:06.740 --> 00:03:09.120 it happened correct? It would be the the date 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.960 of the article so it would be So this one's from 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.379 the BBC News, written by Sean Cullan. This article 00:03:16.379 --> 00:03:19.419 confirms that Prince Andrew continued corresponding 00:03:19.419 --> 00:03:22.960 with Jeffrey Epstein after 2010, despite publicly 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:26.139 claiming he cut ties with the convicted sex offender 00:03:26.139 --> 00:03:29.900 that year. The BBC reports on emails from 2011, 00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.219 including one in which Andrew wrote, quote, I'm 00:03:33.219 --> 00:03:36.159 just as concerned for you. Don't worry about 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.340 me. It would seem we are in this together and 00:03:39.340 --> 00:03:42.509 we'll have to rise above it otherwise keep in 00:03:42.509 --> 00:03:45.349 close touch and we'll play some more soon many 00:03:45.349 --> 00:03:48.810 exclamation marks and quote This email was sent 00:03:48.810 --> 00:03:52.069 the day after a photo of Andrew with Virginia 00:03:52.069 --> 00:03:55.310 Dufrey was published. He did publicly go on record 00:03:55.310 --> 00:03:58.469 on the BBC documentary, which I have a little 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:01.469 treat for you later. That does say that he did 00:04:01.469 --> 00:04:04.129 cut ties with him prior to this. The messages 00:04:04.129 --> 00:04:06.710 were uncovered in court documents related to 00:04:06.710 --> 00:04:10.250 a separate US case involving former JP Morgan 00:04:10.250 --> 00:04:13.370 executive Jess Staley. They suggest that Andrew 00:04:13.370 --> 00:04:15.949 maintained a friendly and familiar tone with 00:04:15.949 --> 00:04:18.759 Epstein, even after his conviction and release 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.819 from prison. Yes, he was pictured with Jeffrey 00:04:21.819 --> 00:04:24.959 Epstein after his release from prison. The article 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.240 emphasizes that these revelations undermine Andrew's 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.839 2019 BBC Newsnight interview where he insisted 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.279 he had no further contact with Epstein after 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.860 2010. The leak has intensified calls for accountability 00:04:37.860 --> 00:04:42.399 with US lawmakers and UK MPs arguing Andrew to 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:45.769 testify. The BBC also notes that the monarchy's 00:04:45.769 --> 00:04:48.290 efforts to distance itself from Andrew, such 00:04:48.290 --> 00:04:50.529 as stripping him of titles, may not be enough 00:04:50.529 --> 00:04:53.689 to contain the reputational damage. In April 00:04:53.689 --> 00:04:56.829 2010, months after Epstein's release from prison 00:04:56.829 --> 00:04:59.949 for prostituting minors, Andrew emailed Epstein 00:04:59.949 --> 00:05:03.379 saying, quote it would be nice to catch up in 00:05:03.379 --> 00:05:06.879 person end quote and that he had quote no immediate 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.639 plans to drop by new york but i think i should 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.639 at some stage soon end quote october 17th we 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.300 have a statement i grabbed this right from the 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:20.519 royals website whatever the hell it is i can't 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:22.779 remember they have their own website i did not 00:05:22.779 --> 00:05:25.439 know that so this statement's published on their 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.360 website a statement from prince andrew quote 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:31.160 in discussion with the king and my immediate 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.199 and wider family, we have concluded the continued 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.040 accusations about me distract from the work of 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:39.980 His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided, 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.959 as I always have, to put my duty to my family 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.939 and country first. I stand by my decision five 00:05:45.939 --> 00:05:48.680 years ago to stand back from public life. With 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.860 His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go 00:05:51.860 --> 00:05:54.620 a step further. I will therefore no longer use 00:05:54.620 --> 00:05:57.660 my title or the honors which have been conferred 00:05:57.660 --> 00:06:01.019 upon me as I have said Previously, I vigorously 00:06:01.019 --> 00:06:04.439 deny the accusations against me. End. October 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:09.139 18, 2025. Article titled, York MP Calls on Royal 00:06:09.139 --> 00:06:12.839 Family to Explain Source of 12 Million Pound 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.220 Virginia Diffree Payment. That's from The Guardian, 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.160 Geraldine McKelvey, and Sammy Geksoyler. Are 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.579 the authors of that one? The summary of this 00:06:23.579 --> 00:06:27.819 article. York MP Rachel Maskell has demanded 00:06:27.819 --> 00:06:30.480 transparency from Buckingham Palace regarding 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.519 the $12 million settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.480 by Prince Andrew. She questions whether public 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.180 funds were used and calls for a formal inquiry. 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.839 Quote, the public has a right to know whether 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.699 their money was used to silence a victim of abuse, 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.620 end quote. The article highlights growing political 00:06:47.620 --> 00:06:50.279 pressure in the UK for financial accountability. 00:06:50.220 --> 00:06:53.459 and suggests that the monarchy's silence is fueling 00:06:53.459 --> 00:06:59.829 public distrust. It gets worse. October 25, 2025. 00:07:00.269 --> 00:07:02.730 Article title, Prince Andrew's remarks about 00:07:02.730 --> 00:07:05.189 Kate sparked royal rift with Prince William. 00:07:05.269 --> 00:07:08.750 This isn't the worst part, worser part. It just, 00:07:08.750 --> 00:07:11.970 it adds to kind of what's going on. This article 00:07:11.970 --> 00:07:14.870 is from Marie Claire, Kaylee Roberts is the author 00:07:14.870 --> 00:07:18.069 and the summary of this one is this article explores 00:07:18.069 --> 00:07:21.250 how a disparaging comment made by Prince Andrew 00:07:21.250 --> 00:07:23.930 about Kate Middleton allegedly triggered a long 00:07:23.930 --> 00:07:26.000 -standing rift between him and Prince William. 00:07:26.269 --> 00:07:29.370 The remark made early in William and Kate's relationship 00:07:29.370 --> 00:07:32.410 reportedly questions Kate's suitability for royal 00:07:32.410 --> 00:07:35.290 life and was perceived as snobbish and dismissive. 00:07:35.629 --> 00:07:39.550 Quote, attributed to regular person Andy. Quote, 00:07:39.550 --> 00:07:41.970 she's just a commenter. She'll never fit in. 00:07:43.389 --> 00:07:46.550 Next quote, Andrew has never been a great drudge 00:07:46.550 --> 00:07:48.850 of character. So it's not surprising that he 00:07:48.850 --> 00:07:51.509 would resent someone as stellar as Kate eclipsing 00:07:51.509 --> 00:07:54.029 him and pretty much everyone else in the monarchy. 00:07:54.069 --> 00:07:56.420 End quote. I really like that. quote from the 00:07:56.420 --> 00:07:59.579 article it just kind of summarized his isn't 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:02.800 like alt royal related to him anyway so is he 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:04.660 saying like you should have married your sister 00:08:04.660 --> 00:08:09.540 basically yeah probably he he really is a shitty 00:08:09.540 --> 00:08:13.220 judge of character though it's really undeniable 00:08:13.220 --> 00:08:17.439 so I just I really liked how that kind of brought 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.819 it all kind of together and I also like you know 00:08:20.819 --> 00:08:24.620 you can just tell that Prince William just absolutely 00:08:24.620 --> 00:08:28.420 fucked and he eats his guts. I don't know how 00:08:28.420 --> 00:08:30.319 you can tell it. You just get it off of him. 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.159 He's Creepy Uncle Andy. Like straight up. Like 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.080 you know they call him that. You just want nothing 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:38.759 to do with him. You can tell. October 30th Buckingham 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.559 Palace puts out a statement. They're like we 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.320 got to deal with this. This is snowballing. People 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.539 are questioning where money's coming from and 00:08:46.539 --> 00:08:49.460 everything. And regular person Andy tried to 00:08:49.460 --> 00:08:51.940 get ahead of it. He knew this was gonna come 00:08:51.940 --> 00:08:54.460 up. It was either gonna be taken from him or 00:08:54.460 --> 00:08:57.379 he had to renounce it. So he renounced it. is 00:08:57.379 --> 00:09:00.539 that Buckingham Palace is like oh fuck we're 00:09:00.539 --> 00:09:04.080 gonna crumble too our approval rating I don't 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.659 know if that's what they call it not good we're 00:09:06.659 --> 00:09:09.200 on shaky ground so we're gonna put out a statement 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.460 because it's not looking good for them either 00:09:12.009 --> 00:09:14.590 So they published this on their website, October 00:09:14.590 --> 00:09:18.610 30th. His Majesty has today initiated a formal 00:09:18.610 --> 00:09:21.470 process to remove the style titles and honors 00:09:21.470 --> 00:09:24.210 of Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew will now be known 00:09:24.210 --> 00:09:27.110 as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. There you go. 00:09:27.330 --> 00:09:30.330 That's, yeah. It's quite the name. It sounds 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:34.620 like a wombat, doesn't it? His lease on Royal 00:09:34.620 --> 00:09:37.980 Lodge has to date provided him with legal protection 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:40.799 to continue in residence. Formal notice has now 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.100 been served to surrender the lease and he will 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:45.779 move to alternative private accommodation. These 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:48.580 censors are deemed necessary not withstanding 00:09:48.580 --> 00:09:51.940 the fact that he continues to deny the allegations 00:09:51.940 --> 00:09:55.139 against him. Love that line. Their Majesties 00:09:55.139 --> 00:09:57.620 wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost 00:09:57.620 --> 00:10:00.379 sympathies have been and will remain with the 00:10:00.379 --> 00:10:03.809 victims and survivors of any and all forms of 00:10:03.809 --> 00:10:07.320 abuse. And I love their one line in that. So, 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:14.679 we have October 29th, MPs demand clarity over 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:18.059 Prince Andrew's peppercorn rent at Royal Lodge. 00:10:18.299 --> 00:10:20.960 This is from The Guardian, author Anisa Ahmed. 00:10:21.259 --> 00:10:24.340 This article reports that UK Members of Parliament 00:10:24.340 --> 00:10:27.299 are calling for an investigation into the financial 00:10:27.299 --> 00:10:30.000 arrangement allowing Prince Andrew to live at 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.139 Royal Lodge, a 30 -room mansion in Windsor Great 00:10:33.139 --> 00:10:39.450 Park, for a nominal annual rent. The arrangement 00:10:39.450 --> 00:10:43.690 stems from a 75 -year lease signed in 2003, but 00:10:43.690 --> 00:10:46.669 critics argue it's inappropriate given Andrew's 00:10:46.669 --> 00:10:49.529 removal from royal duties in recent scandals. 00:11:05.389 --> 00:11:08.549 a working royal and from serious and disturbing 00:11:08.549 --> 00:11:12.370 allegations made against him." The Guardian notes 00:11:12.370 --> 00:11:15.070 that Andrew has spent millions on renovations 00:11:15.070 --> 00:11:18.070 and continues to reside there despite King Charles' 00:11:18.289 --> 00:11:21.370 efforts to relocate him. The article raises concerns 00:11:21.370 --> 00:11:24.409 about transparency, accountability, and the optics 00:11:24.409 --> 00:11:27.049 of privilege, especially as Buckingham Palace 00:11:27.049 --> 00:11:30.230 remains silent on the lease's terms and funding 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:33.649 sources. disgraced royal living rent free for 00:11:33.649 --> 00:11:37.169 years stings especially during a cost of living 00:11:37.169 --> 00:11:40.409 crisis currently happening in many places in 00:11:40.409 --> 00:11:43.889 the world October 30th, title, Prince Andrew 00:11:43.889 --> 00:11:47.029 is losing his Prince title and his royal estate. 00:11:47.149 --> 00:11:50.309 This is from the CBC News. The summary of this 00:11:50.309 --> 00:11:53.090 article, Buckingham Palace announces that Prince 00:11:53.090 --> 00:11:55.710 Andrew will be stripped of his Prince title and 00:11:55.710 --> 00:11:58.070 evicted from Royal Lodge. As we've already learned, 00:11:58.110 --> 00:12:00.549 I thought this was a nice summary of it in this 00:12:00.549 --> 00:12:02.909 article. He will now be referred to as regular 00:12:02.909 --> 00:12:07.009 person Andy. Just kidding. It's Andrew Mountbatten. 00:12:07.810 --> 00:12:10.730 Windsor. This decision follows mounting public 00:12:10.730 --> 00:12:13.389 and political pressure over his ties to Jeffrey 00:12:13.389 --> 00:12:15.830 Epstein and the settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey. 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:19.629 A statement said he will also move out of Royal 00:12:19.629 --> 00:12:22.350 Lodge, the home in Windsor Great Park he has 00:12:22.350 --> 00:12:25.330 had for decades. Constitutional experts said 00:12:25.330 --> 00:12:28.230 the move is unprecedented in the royal family's 00:12:28.230 --> 00:12:31.330 modern history, marking the first genuine royal 00:12:31.330 --> 00:12:34.190 crisis in Charles' reign. I would say that's 00:12:34.190 --> 00:12:37.990 correct. Andy will be moved to Sandringham. Buckingham 00:12:37.990 --> 00:12:40.509 Palace isn't saying exactly where Andrew will 00:12:40.509 --> 00:12:42.929 live on San Ringham Estate, the King's private 00:12:42.929 --> 00:12:45.850 estate in Norfolk, northeast of London. Be fair, 00:12:45.889 --> 00:12:47.769 people might murder him if they know where he 00:12:47.769 --> 00:12:50.429 lived. Yeah, and I think he's on thin ice with 00:12:50.429 --> 00:12:53.429 the royal family as well. He's on time out. San 00:12:53.429 --> 00:12:56.730 Ringham as a private estate means that no taxpayer 00:12:56.730 --> 00:12:59.730 money will be spent housing Andrew. quote his 00:12:59.730 --> 00:13:02.490 majesty has today initiated a formal process 00:13:02.490 --> 00:13:04.830 to remove the style titles and honors of prince 00:13:04.830 --> 00:13:08.610 andrew and quote the move is seen as king charles's 00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:11.129 attempt to protect the monarchy's reputation 00:13:11.129 --> 00:13:15.070 amid growing scrutiny and backlash i like this 00:13:15.070 --> 00:13:19.850 one october 30th article title a bbc studio audience 00:13:19.850 --> 00:13:23.110 applauded the news and this is written by anna 00:13:23.110 --> 00:13:26.639 cunningham Summary. Today's news broke during 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.820 a recording of the BBC's Question Time, a TV 00:13:29.820 --> 00:13:32.259 show debating current issues with political guests 00:13:32.259 --> 00:13:34.919 in front of a live studio audience. As the details 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.559 of the King's decision was read out by the host 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.500 Fiona Bruce, the studio audience gave a resounding 00:13:40.500 --> 00:13:46.240 applause. I quite like that. That's beautiful. 00:13:46.539 --> 00:13:50.679 That is beautiful. October 30th, 2025. Title 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:53.379 of this one, No Longer Prince Andrew, an expert 00:13:53.379 --> 00:13:55.899 on how royals can be stripped of their titles. 00:13:56.379 --> 00:13:59.100 This is from The Conversation written by Cindy 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:03.100 McCreary. Cultural historian Cindy McCreary explains 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:05.860 the constitutional and symbolic process behind 00:14:05.860 --> 00:14:08.899 stripping royal titles. King Charles issued a 00:14:08.899 --> 00:14:11.899 letters patent to remove Prince Andrew's Prince 00:14:11.899 --> 00:14:15.159 and His Royal Highness styles, a rare and significant 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.379 act. While titles can be revoked by the monarch, 00:14:18.740 --> 00:14:21.559 Andrew remains in the line of succession unless 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.700 Parliament intervenes. Quote, this is a powerful 00:14:24.700 --> 00:14:29.740 symbolic move but it doesn't remove him from 00:14:29.740 --> 00:14:32.539 the line of succession. The article emphasizes 00:14:32.539 --> 00:14:35.899 that this decision reflects Charles' desire to 00:14:35.899 --> 00:14:38.460 modernize and protect the monarchy's reputation 00:14:38.460 --> 00:14:41.919 amid scandal. Andrew remains eighth in line to 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.679 the throne and could only be removed by the line 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.559 of succession by an act of parliament, Prescott 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.039 said, which I'm surprised isn't happening, to 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.639 be honest with you. That would also require the 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.059 consent of the 14 other countries where Charles 00:14:56.059 --> 00:14:58.919 is king, including Canada. Wait, we would have 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.240 to pass our own thing? I guess. So, I don't think 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.879 - Or he could accidentally become king? I would 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.200 vote for that. I mean, he would be king here 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.539 too, right? Technically. That was a nobody's 00:15:09.539 --> 00:15:11.639 ticket in the last election. Yeah, and you know 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.799 what? I say do it! Who's gonna vote against this? 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.559 I mean, it's gonna cost money to vote to do that, 00:15:18.620 --> 00:15:20.840 but I don't think anyone gives a fuck at this 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.559 point. They just wanna - It's a pretty minimal 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:26.870 vote. It's true. There have been rare removals 00:15:26.870 --> 00:15:29.129 from the line of succession in the past, one 00:15:29.129 --> 00:15:32.049 being Prince Michael of Kent, who lost his place 00:15:32.049 --> 00:15:35.830 when he married a Catholic in 1978, as per the 00:15:35.830 --> 00:15:39.289 Act of Settlement in 1701. With the succession 00:15:39.289 --> 00:15:42.649 to the Crown Act in 2013, Prince Michael was 00:15:42.649 --> 00:15:45.779 reinstated into the line of succession. So yeah, 00:15:45.940 --> 00:15:50.240 that one is really interesting just on the technicalities 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.879 over stripping the titles from him against him. 00:15:52.940 --> 00:15:55.440 But he's still in the bloodline, right? They 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.000 can't take that away unless they kill him. Or 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.879 the governor says that you don't count anymore. 00:16:01.139 --> 00:16:03.779 Yeah, I guess there's that too. Yeah, killing 00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:10.019 him is probably easier. October 31st. Prince 00:16:10.019 --> 00:16:12.720 Andrew has lost his titles but could still be 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.419 king. What else does he keep? National Post, 00:16:15.580 --> 00:16:17.899 Chris Knight. Following King Charles' decision 00:16:17.899 --> 00:16:20.519 to strip Prince Andrew of his Prince title and 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.919 Royal Honours, the article explores what Andrew 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.419 still retains. I'm just gonna read what else 00:16:25.419 --> 00:16:27.899 he keeps. So what he keeps, I covered the other 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:30.580 stuff in the other article. He keeps his personal 00:16:30.580 --> 00:16:34.059 wealth, military pension, and Falklands war medal, 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.840 which was earned through active service and cannot 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.139 be revoked, which I think is funny because I 00:16:39.139 --> 00:16:42.019 read his book and pretty much they're insinuating 00:16:42.019 --> 00:16:45.299 that his whole military career was based on privilege. 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.799 Well yeah, he didn't have to actually go to war 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.220 in any time. Except that time where he forgot 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:53.700 to sweat. Most people that they had in the book 00:16:53.700 --> 00:16:56.159 that were talking about his career in the military 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.240 said that he was just this privileged, I guess, 00:16:59.419 --> 00:17:02.379 nepo baby in the end. His daughters, princesses, 00:17:02.379 --> 00:17:05.119 Beatrice and Eugene retain their titles, though 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.519 their public roles are limited as well, which 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.140 I was shocked at. The article emphasizes that 00:17:10.140 --> 00:17:12.819 while Andrew's public role is over, his legal 00:17:12.819 --> 00:17:15.920 and hereditary status, remains intact unless 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.779 further action is taken. It also notes that his 00:17:18.779 --> 00:17:21.480 new designation, Andrew Montban Windsor, marks 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.480 a rare and dramatic shift in his royal identity. 00:17:23.779 --> 00:17:26.160 The piece notes that while his public role is 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.000 over, his legal and financial entitlements remain 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.779 largely intact unless further action is taken. 00:17:32.029 --> 00:17:35.690 October 31st, 2025, former Prince Andrew brought 00:17:35.690 --> 00:17:39.369 40 prostitutes to a hotel in Thailand using taxpayer 00:17:39.369 --> 00:17:43.049 money, reveals historian. Spectacular fall from 00:17:43.049 --> 00:17:46.329 grace. This one's the times of India, of all 00:17:46.329 --> 00:17:49.809 places reporting. India, the times of them. Well, 00:17:50.190 --> 00:17:51.910 technically he's still king of India, isn't he? 00:17:52.049 --> 00:17:54.680 I don't... Is he? They're part of the Commonwealth. 00:17:54.980 --> 00:17:57.480 Are they? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. A historian 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.220 revealed that Prince Andrew allegedly used public 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:03.019 funds to pay for 40 sex workers during a trip 00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:06.160 to Thailand. The claim, part of a broader expose 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.180 on his spectacular fall from grace, spectacular 00:18:09.180 --> 00:18:12.420 it is, has reignited outrage over royal spending 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:15.599 and accountability. Quote, this is not just a 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.539 lapse in judgment. It was a grotesque abuse of 00:18:18.539 --> 00:18:20.980 privilege. End quote. The article underscores 00:18:20.980 --> 00:18:23.869 how Andrew's behavior is long been shielded by 00:18:23.869 --> 00:18:27.089 royal status and how recent revelations are fueling 00:18:27.089 --> 00:18:29.670 calls for criminal investigation and financial 00:18:29.670 --> 00:18:32.970 transparency. Yep, you'll notice that a lot of 00:18:32.970 --> 00:18:36.509 these are kind of the monarchy covering up for 00:18:36.509 --> 00:18:40.509 his stuff so far. Yep. In everything that's talking 00:18:40.509 --> 00:18:43.190 about the past, they're finally putting a foot 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.950 down realizing that it's damaging them more than 00:18:45.950 --> 00:18:48.349 anything now that his accusations are getting 00:18:48.349 --> 00:18:52.119 so very public. October 31st. Prince Andrew, 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:54.859 what his behavior tells us about the royal family. 00:18:54.980 --> 00:18:58.059 This is from The Guardian, Caroline Davies. This 00:18:58.059 --> 00:19:01.099 analysis critiques the monarchy's long -standing 00:19:01.099 --> 00:19:04.180 tolerance of Prince Andrew's behavior, arguing 00:19:04.180 --> 00:19:07.220 that his downfall reflects deeper institutional 00:19:07.220 --> 00:19:10.259 flaws. The article highlights how Andrew's ties 00:19:10.259 --> 00:19:13.640 to Jeffrey Epstein and his refusal to take responsibility 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.740 were enabled by a culture of privilege and protection. 00:19:17.130 --> 00:19:20.710 This analysis piece delves into the deeper implications 00:19:20.710 --> 00:19:23.609 of Prince Andrew's conduct and the royal family's 00:19:23.609 --> 00:19:26.430 response. It critiques the monarchy's long -standing 00:19:26.430 --> 00:19:29.410 tendency to shield problematic members and questions 00:19:29.410 --> 00:19:32.430 whether the institution is truly capable of reform. 00:19:32.789 --> 00:19:35.549 Personally, I wouldn't just say reform, but also 00:19:35.549 --> 00:19:37.809 the individuals that they're capable of turning 00:19:37.809 --> 00:19:41.309 out. This guy is not something, he's not a leader, 00:19:41.470 --> 00:19:43.670 he's not something to be proud of. He's just... 00:19:43.740 --> 00:19:46.799 a problem, to put it lightly. That's probably 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.019 a compliment to him, actually. The article argues 00:19:50.019 --> 00:19:52.720 that Andrew's downfall is not just personal, 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.920 but emblematic of broader issues within the royal 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:58.859 system, including privilege, lack of accountability, 00:19:58.940 --> 00:20:01.940 and outdated traditions. Quote, Andrew's behavior 00:20:01.940 --> 00:20:05.400 was tolerated for decades until it became untenable, 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.380 end quote. The piece suggests that the palace's 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:11.640 recent actions are reactive rather than proactive, 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.640 driven by public outrage. rather than internal 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.819 ethics. Quote, Andrew's behavior was tolerated 00:20:17.819 --> 00:20:21.259 for decades until it became untenable, end quote. 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:25.299 November 1st, Prince Andrew faces renewed scrutiny 00:20:25.299 --> 00:20:28.779 over Virginia Jeffrey claims in panorama follow 00:20:28.779 --> 00:20:32.640 -up. The panorama interview is the one that you 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.319 talk about with regular person Andy where he 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.359 says he doesn't sweat. This one's from The Independent 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.349 from Shweta Sharma and Athena Stavrou. This article 00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:44.950 covers the release of a follow -up episode of 00:20:44.950 --> 00:20:48.349 the BBC's panorama investigation, reigniting 00:20:48.349 --> 00:20:51.269 public attention on Virginia Jeffries' allegations 00:20:51.269 --> 00:20:54.089 against Prince Andrew. The program includes new 00:20:54.089 --> 00:20:57.250 testimony and commentary from legal experts suggesting 00:20:57.250 --> 00:21:00.289 that Andrew's legal exposure may not be over. 00:21:00.490 --> 00:21:03.390 The piece also highlights the palace's silence 00:21:03.390 --> 00:21:06.269 in response to the broadcast, contrasting it 00:21:06.269 --> 00:21:08.950 with the swift action taken to strip Andrew of 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:12.420 its titles. His titles. A standout quote from 00:21:12.420 --> 00:21:15.279 Jeffrey's lawyer, quote, this is not just about 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:17.799 one man, it's about a system that allowed abuse 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.079 to flourish, end quote. The article underscores 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:24.339 the continuing reputational damage to the monarchy. 00:21:24.700 --> 00:21:27.440 The BBC's panorama investigation into Prince 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.279 Andrew, titled Panorama, the Follow Prince Andrew, 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:33.140 is a documentary series that revisits his ties 00:21:33.140 --> 00:21:36.630 to Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Jeffrey. featuring 00:21:36.630 --> 00:21:40.390 previously unaired footage and new revelations. 00:21:40.829 --> 00:21:44.930 And like I said, the original one was aired in 00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:48.890 2019. I rewatched it in preparation for this 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:53.069 episode and man, it is a hard watch. It is a 00:21:53.069 --> 00:21:58.970 hard watch. Yeah. All the way through. He's just 00:21:58.970 --> 00:22:02.069 lying through his teeth. All he can say is I 00:22:02.069 --> 00:22:05.130 don't remember meeting her and he's stumbling 00:22:05.130 --> 00:22:07.730 all over himself He's like that picture specifically 00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:10.630 remembers the pizza. Yeah, he remembers the pizza 00:22:10.630 --> 00:22:13.710 He goes well that picture was taken upstairs 00:22:13.710 --> 00:22:16.930 and I've never been upstairs in Jelaine Maxwell's 00:22:16.930 --> 00:22:21.170 house and just how he keeps repeating that and 00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:23.369 he keeps saying it was taken upstairs like how 00:22:23.369 --> 00:22:25.730 would you know that was taken upstairs if you've 00:22:25.730 --> 00:22:28.250 never been there and then he's like i've never 00:22:28.250 --> 00:22:32.109 been to that club that virginia roberts at the 00:22:32.109 --> 00:22:35.670 time said that i was there with her at because 00:22:35.670 --> 00:22:42.190 i don't know where that club is yeah he has beautiful 00:22:42.190 --> 00:22:45.609 beautiful excuses why they let him do that i 00:22:45.609 --> 00:22:48.839 think it just i i think it's just privilege Honestly, 00:22:49.779 --> 00:22:53.089 the whole interview just... It reeks of privilege. 00:22:53.190 --> 00:22:55.690 It reeks of somebody who knows, thinks they can 00:22:55.690 --> 00:22:59.210 pull a fast one on someone. And he clearly can't. 00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:02.069 He cannot. And that's why I said it reeks of 00:23:02.069 --> 00:23:06.130 privilege. So the follow -up episode did just 00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:10.549 come out in 2025, November 2025. And it features 00:23:10.549 --> 00:23:13.549 previously unseen footage from Jeffrey's 2019 00:23:13.549 --> 00:23:16.390 interview. She says in the footage, quote, I 00:23:16.390 --> 00:23:19.009 was a toy. I was there to be passed around, but 00:23:19.009 --> 00:23:21.490 I was still a human being with feelings. emotion 00:23:21.490 --> 00:23:25.210 and sadness." She expressed disbelief that Andrew, 00:23:25.490 --> 00:23:27.769 a father of daughters, could still abuse her. 00:23:27.910 --> 00:23:32.109 Key themes are emotional depth, The episode highlights 00:23:32.109 --> 00:23:35.250 Jeffrey's pain in humanity, contrasting it with 00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:38.390 Andrew's perceived lack of accountability. Legal 00:23:38.390 --> 00:23:40.869 experts interviewed in the documentary argue 00:23:40.869 --> 00:23:43.509 that Andrew's case reflects broader failures 00:23:43.509 --> 00:23:46.869 in elite institutions protect vulnerable individuals, 00:23:47.309 --> 00:23:50.289 and the broadcast intensified calls for transparency 00:23:50.289 --> 00:23:52.829 around Andy's settlement with Jeffrey and his 00:23:52.829 --> 00:23:56.190 continued legal exposure. The Panorama episode 00:23:56.190 --> 00:23:58.529 added pressure on the royal family, especially 00:23:58.529 --> 00:24:01.789 as it aired just days after Andy was stripped 00:24:01.789 --> 00:24:04.329 of his titles and evicted from Royal Lodge. It 00:24:04.329 --> 00:24:07.910 also fueled speculation about further legal consequences 00:24:07.910 --> 00:24:10.589 and the monarchy's role in shielding its members. 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.319 Next article, November 1st, House Democrats asked 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.220 former Prince Andrew to appear for questioning 00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:21.279 about Jeffrey Epstein. From CBS News by Haley 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:24.539 Ott, the U .S. House Democrats are calling for 00:24:24.539 --> 00:24:27.000 Prince Andrew to testify about his relationship 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.440 with Jeffrey Epstein and the financial settlement 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.559 paid to Virginia Jeffrey. Lawmakers argue that 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.420 Andrew's involvement may shed light on Epstein's 00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:38.039 broader network and the mechanisms of elite protection. 00:24:38.299 --> 00:24:40.940 Quote, we cannot allow powerful men to evade 00:24:40.940 --> 00:24:43.319 accountability simply because they wear a crown, 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.799 end quote. Representative Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez. 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.119 The article notes that. Ocasio. Oh, you're going 00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:54.460 to like this. AOC. What? Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez. 00:24:54.579 --> 00:24:58.299 Oh yeah, you got it. The article notes that diplomatic 00:24:58.299 --> 00:25:01.839 immunity no longer applies to Andrew and that 00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:05.079 subpoenas of formal requests may follow if UK 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.400 cooperation is secured, now that he has no titles. 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.160 Yeah, hopefully, but he's also, like, he's picking 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.599 his places he's flying pretty carefully right 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.299 now. Yeah, yeah, but he's no longer back to your 00:25:17.299 --> 00:25:21.779 miles, Auntie. No, he is Bahrain Andy at most. 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.980 He had such a brief glimpse of potential freedom. 00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:30.819 Oil brain Andy. November 1st, Met Police looks 00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:34.440 into reports Prince Andrew asked Officer to investigate 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.519 Accuser, which is Virginia Jeffery, as William 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.660 Plans ruthless approach towards the Royals. This 00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:43.099 is Sky News. I couldn't find the author on this 00:25:43.099 --> 00:25:45.539 one. This article reports that the Metropolitan 00:25:45.539 --> 00:25:47.880 Police have been asked to investigate whether 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.720 Prince Andrew committed misconduct by allegedly 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.599 attempting to smear Virginia Jeffery in 2011. 00:25:53.859 --> 00:25:56.480 The request stems from claims that Andrew instructed 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.140 his Royal Protection Officer to dig up damaging 00:25:59.140 --> 00:26:02.200 information on Jeffery shortly after her allegations 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.119 became public. Quote, if true, this would amount 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.660 to a serious abuse of power and obstruction, 00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:10.680 end quote, said a legal source. The article also 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.819 highlights less importantly that Prince William 00:26:12.819 --> 00:26:15.839 is taking a ruthless stance toward Andrew, supporting 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.500 his permanent exclusion from royal events and 00:26:18.500 --> 00:26:21.400 future coronations. Lawyers for Epstein's victims 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.799 predict more damaging leaks are imminent, potentially 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.960 involving other high profile figures. What does 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.299 life look like for Prince Andrew now that he's 00:26:30.299 --> 00:26:33.180 been stripped of his titles? This is Marie Claire 00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:36.920 from Kristen Contino. Kristen Contino explores 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.779 Andrew's post -title lifestyle. He's been evicted 00:26:39.779 --> 00:26:42.400 from Morrill Lodge and will relocate to a private 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.200 residence in San Rigan Mistate. The article paints 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.220 a picture of isolation and diminished influence, 00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:51.019 noting that regular person Andy's routine will 00:26:51.019 --> 00:26:54.200 consist of quiet weekends, legal consultations, 00:26:54.339 --> 00:26:58.019 and limited public visibility. November 1st, 00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:01.019 ex -Prince Andrew faces increased calls by U 00:27:01.019 --> 00:27:04.039 .S. lawmakers to testify in Epstein case. This 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.819 one's by Politico EU staff Jacob Wiseman. Following 00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:10.579 renewed scrutiny of Prince Andrew's ties to Jeffrey 00:27:10.579 --> 00:27:13.180 Epstein, several U .S. lawmakers are urging him 00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:16.440 to testify before Congress. The pressure intensified 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.759 after Virginia Jeffrey's death and the release 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.759 of new BBC footage. Lawmakers argued that Andrew's 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.079 testimony could shed light on Epstein's network 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.380 and the role of powerful figures in enabling 00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:30.859 abuse. The American people deserve answers. If 00:27:30.859 --> 00:27:33.380 Andrew has nothing to hide, he should come forward. 00:27:33.630 --> 00:27:36.069 The article notes that while Andrew is no longer 00:27:36.069 --> 00:27:38.490 a working royal, diplomatic and legal hurdles 00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:41.069 remain, his lawyers have declined comment, and 00:27:41.069 --> 00:27:43.410 UK officials have not confirmed cooperation. 00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:45.430 Mostly they just want to hear if he knew Trump 00:27:45.430 --> 00:27:48.470 in any way, which he probably did. Trump loves 00:27:48.470 --> 00:27:52.349 clout. November 2nd, 2025, Andrew erased royal 00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:55.170 tributes to Jeffrey Epstein victims. That one's 00:27:55.170 --> 00:27:58.539 from the Times, Tom Sykes. The expose reveals 00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:01.299 that Prince Andrew repeatedly removed references 00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:04.839 to Epstein's victims from official palace statements 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:09.240 over the years. How does he have access to that? 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.579 I feel like he walked into the wrong room and 00:28:13.579 --> 00:28:16.460 just Mr. Beaned them out of existence. Doesn't 00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:19.480 he feel like a Mr. Bean type character? Yeah, 00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:22.640 yeah he does. He does. A source close to the 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.359 King and Queen said Andrew resisted acknowledging 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.279 the victim's suffering even after his disastrous 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.980 2019 interview. Quote, each time courtiers drafted 00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:34.819 in references to the victims, they were removed 00:28:34.819 --> 00:28:37.079 after they went to Andrew for sign -off. Why 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.809 would they go to him for sign -off? The article 00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:49.869 highlights internal frustration within the royal 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:53.869 family, especially from Camilla and Sophie, whose 00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:57.349 advocacy for abuse survivors clashed with Andrew's 00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:00.250 evasiveness. I think Sophie's their sister, is 00:29:00.250 --> 00:29:04.690 it not? I have no idea. Oh yeah, here's a good 00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:08.069 one. November 3rd. Donald Trump feels badly for 00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:11.990 the royal family after ex -Prince Andrew is stripped 00:29:11.990 --> 00:29:15.990 of his title's tragic situation. This one's from 00:29:15.990 --> 00:29:20.869 OK Magazine from Irene Marie Espera. Donald Trump 00:29:20.869 --> 00:29:24.190 commented on Prince Andrew's title removal, expressing 00:29:24.190 --> 00:29:26.970 sympathy for the royal family. He reportedly 00:29:26.970 --> 00:29:30.190 told aides he feels badly about the situation 00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:32.910 and believes Andrew was thrown under the bus. 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.319 It's a shame. I always liked him. He was a gentleman. 00:29:37.099 --> 00:29:41.759 Oh god, the misogynistic tone of that. The article 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.559 notes Trump's past interactions with Andrew and 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.559 Epstein and frames his remarks as part of a broader 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.650 pattern of defending controversial figures. Oh, 00:29:50.730 --> 00:29:53.190 I like this one too. Okay, I like all my articles, 00:29:53.250 --> 00:29:56.970 okay? Name change call for Prince Andrew Road 00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:00.089 in Maidenhead. That's the article title. From 00:30:00.089 --> 00:30:03.069 the BBC News. Some residents of Prince Andrew 00:30:03.069 --> 00:30:05.630 Road and Prince Andrew clothes in Maidenhead 00:30:05.630 --> 00:30:09.689 have requested that the streets be renamed. citing 00:30:09.689 --> 00:30:12.250 discomfort with the association after Prince 00:30:12.250 --> 00:30:15.210 Andrew was stripped of his titles and re -designated 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:17.690 as Andrew Mountain Batten Windsor. The Rhodes 00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:20.750 were originally named in the 1960s to honor his 00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:24.009 birth. The Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead 00:30:24.009 --> 00:30:26.970 stated that any formal application for renaming 00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:29.589 would be assessed according to local procedures, 00:30:29.849 --> 00:30:33.049 which require unanimous agreement from all property 00:30:33.049 --> 00:30:35.910 owners on the affected streets. Quote, it's not 00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:38.109 right to have a street named after someone who's 00:30:38.109 --> 00:30:40.950 brought shame on the royal family, said one resident. 00:30:41.089 --> 00:30:43.710 The article also notes that similar calls have 00:30:43.710 --> 00:30:47.069 emerged in Helsten near Norwich, although the 00:30:47.069 --> 00:30:49.309 road was named after Prince Andrew of Greece 00:30:49.309 --> 00:30:53.759 and Denmark, not the Duke. of York. But it was 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.200 so bad that they just have to get rid of it. 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.740 Yeah, exactly. They don't know about that guy 00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:04.980 anymore. and final article titled this is published 00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:08.480 yesterday ex -prince andrew insisting on royal 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.940 staff and not feeling confined in new homes says 00:31:11.940 --> 00:31:15.339 former butler this is marie claire written by 00:31:15.339 --> 00:31:18.339 amy mckelden this article reveals that prince 00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:22.079 andrew now officially regular person andy is 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.380 reportedly refusing to scale back his royal lifestyle 00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:28.359 even after being stripped of his titles and evicted 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.299 from royal lodge according to his former butler 00:31:31.150 --> 00:31:34.690 and Drew is insisting on retaining royal staff, 00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:37.789 including footmen and valets, and continues to 00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:40.089 behave as though he is entitled to full royal 00:31:40.089 --> 00:31:42.890 treatment. I mean, to be fair, the guy can't 00:31:42.890 --> 00:31:46.750 drive. He has never driven in his life. You expect 00:31:46.750 --> 00:31:50.349 him to pick up driving at like 65? Yes, he's 00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:54.730 now regular. He was behaving irregular now. No, 00:31:54.789 --> 00:31:57.410 he was really behaving like royalty now, wasn't 00:31:57.410 --> 00:31:59.509 he? Yeah, just the part we don't want to talk 00:31:59.509 --> 00:32:02.539 about with royalty. Yeah, exactly. quote, he 00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:05.180 still expects to be treated like a prince even 00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:08.059 if the palace says otherwise, end quote. The 00:32:08.059 --> 00:32:10.880 article also notes that Andrew does not feel 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.059 confined in his new smaller residence and is 00:32:14.059 --> 00:32:16.880 allegedly resisting efforts by King Charles to 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.660 further reduce his privileges. The former butler 00:32:19.660 --> 00:32:22.619 describes Andrew as delusional and in denial 00:32:22.619 --> 00:32:25.759 about his change status. The article frames this 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.359 as a part of a broader pattern of Andrew's refusal 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.599 to accept accountability even as public and political 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.039 pressure mounts. What say you? What do you have 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.559 to say about all of this? Oh man, just first 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.720 off. It's a train wreck. It's a train wreck. 00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:45.140 The royal family is trying to maintain any form 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:48.559 of decadence that they can or at least persona 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.960 that they are royal. Yeah. So they are just ditching 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:56.500 him as fast as they can. Matt, he is trying to 00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:59.039 do his own damage control, but I feel he's in 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.900 charge of his damage control. And he's an idiot. 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.180 He is a fucking idiot. He's a total idiot. And 00:33:07.180 --> 00:33:10.519 you know, I really needed these articles too 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.200 to put the monarchy in a different light for 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.819 me because yes, I totally got before reading 00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:19.539 all of these that they're outdated. Who needs 00:33:19.539 --> 00:33:23.779 the monarchy in my raid? But it just gives this... 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:27.619 whole larger implication of they're only finally 00:33:27.619 --> 00:33:30.819 doing something about this now when they're being 00:33:30.819 --> 00:33:34.579 absolutely hands tied forced to because they 00:33:34.579 --> 00:33:37.299 can't look away from it anymore. They will be 00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:39.579 destroyed if they don't do something about it. 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.799 That's basically it. When before like when Queen 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.000 Elizabeth was alive she was doing everything 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.740 to pay off this kind of stuff to push it to the 00:33:48.740 --> 00:33:51.259 side so that nobody paid attention to it and 00:33:51.259 --> 00:33:53.299 they were quite content doing that and I think 00:33:53.259 --> 00:33:55.960 now they're realizing that they're not able to 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.220 do that so they had to take a much more oh brazen 00:33:59.220 --> 00:34:02.039 report and it almost seems like they're being 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.900 celebrated for actually doing something when 00:34:04.900 --> 00:34:06.599 they should have done look at you guys doing 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:11.110 the bare minimum Yeah exactly. So I think they 00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:14.130 really opened my eyes at least in these articles 00:34:14.130 --> 00:34:19.449 showing the behavior that was covering up for 00:34:19.449 --> 00:34:23.449 what is clearly an idiot acting incredibly inappropriately. 00:34:24.489 --> 00:34:28.750 See idiot might be the wrong term for him. Entitled 00:34:28.750 --> 00:34:32.989 frat boy I think is like fully how I encapsulate 00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:36.380 British Andy. And you're not lying and he's very 00:34:36.380 --> 00:34:39.139 from the book that I read about him too. He's 00:34:39.139 --> 00:34:43.099 very like naive. Yeah No, it's ignorance and 00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.820 idiocy can seem the same, but they are different 00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:50.260 things. It's true. He's very entitled and can't 00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:53.500 read a room. And all of those together do make 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:55.699 me summarize it as an idiot. But you're right, 00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:58.460 they are different from idiots. And I do find 00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:01.880 it hilarious because you can exist as an individual 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.679 with those skills and still make a fortune as 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.780 the second born. to the Queen of England, but 00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:11.360 he fucked it up. And it's because he kind of 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.139 acted as the firstborn. It's funny because he 00:35:15.139 --> 00:35:19.619 does have a certain kind of arrogance to the 00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:23.179 stupidity. Because he thought he could get on... 00:35:23.179 --> 00:35:25.800 I almost think it's a pretentiousness. It's a 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.780 pretentiousness that he just thinks he's better 00:35:27.780 --> 00:35:30.239 than them. Yeah, because he could go on there 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.079 and make up all these lies that he doesn't sweat 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.099 and think that people are just gonna believe 00:35:35.099 --> 00:35:37.780 him. Yeah, they'll get it, because I'm royal 00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:40.420 -born, whereas they're the common folk. That 00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:42.900 has to be one of the biggest royal fuck -ups 00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:46.719 in history, that they let him do that. It's pretty 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.179 high up there. It's pretty high up there. I mean, 00:35:51.300 --> 00:35:53.820 there's only a small timeline where Royals could 00:35:53.820 --> 00:35:58.219 be interviewed in the grand timeline of things. 00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:01.539 I don't know. Like, I picture it the same way 00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:04.019 as, like, him in front of a large crowd of the 00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:07.539 masses, like, saying, people of the land, I must 00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:11.519 tell you, for I do not sweat. I do not sweat. 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.440 It couldn't have been me. These rumors are salacious 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:19.510 of me. That's his all. No further follow -up 00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:25.690 questions. Oh, he's such a jackass. Yeah. I just 00:36:25.690 --> 00:36:27.590 - I almost feel like that's how we thought it 00:36:27.590 --> 00:36:30.369 was actually gonna happen instead of an interview. 00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:33.929 Because there were follow -up questions. There 00:36:33.929 --> 00:36:37.170 was, and she just kept reading the question back 00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:42.960 to him after he said his reply. And you know 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.840 what? He's in a free fall right now going down. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.760 I don't see an end to this. This last one where 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.239 he's trying to keep his butler and stuff like 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.840 that was just published yesterday. So by the 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.159 time this is published, you get your episode 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:02.219 on a Friday, he may be dead. Yeah, we don't know 00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:05.949 where the ground for Royals are. There may be 00:37:05.949 --> 00:37:08.769 no more monarchy, we don't know. But this is 00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:10.489 what we can do with this time. He might be king, 00:37:10.829 --> 00:37:15.769 weirdly enough. Like still, like we said, Ethan 00:37:15.769 --> 00:37:19.349 Lye. Yeah, yeah. If he went on the murder spree. 00:37:19.750 --> 00:37:23.829 Yeah, it's true. Oh, fuck. We could be living 00:37:23.829 --> 00:37:27.230 in a weird world by the time this gets to your 00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:31.530 ears. And yeah, it was a fun episode to look 00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:35.219 at and I just... I just read them and I laugh 00:37:35.219 --> 00:37:39.920 because and I both laugh and recoil because I 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.619 still feel like based on that last article it's 00:37:42.619 --> 00:37:45.800 not hit enough. This is not a rock bottom for 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.579 him. Oh no, he is not a rock bottom. He hasn't 00:37:48.579 --> 00:37:53.079 even tried heroin as far as I can tell. No, I 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.440 would say he's definitely, he's not hard enough 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.420 to have tried heroin by this point. Oh no. Maybe 00:37:58.420 --> 00:38:00.739 he's tried heroin by the time this comes out. 00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:03.079 No, Chelsea, at this point he has heard about 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.500 the marijuana. Oh, I don't know. No, he has heard 00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:09.699 about it. Okay. He hasn't tried it. That's his 00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:12.559 heart, the hard drug he heard about is the marijuana. 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.940 Okay, okay. Now that sounds real. Yeah, that's 00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:21.159 the regular personality update we all needed. 00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:25.139 And to take us on out of this one, I'm going 00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:28.300 to leave you with some special excerpts of the 00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:33.079 BBC interview about regular personality not being 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.539 able to sweat. Oh, good. And with that, I have 00:38:37.539 --> 00:38:39.739 been Taylor, here with Chelsea. We are Journey 00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:41.539 to the Fringe. Thank you all for listening. We'll 00:38:41.539 --> 00:38:45.559 see you next week. Bye. One of Epstein's accusers, 00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:48.699 Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against 00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:51.780 you. She was very specific about that night. 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.980 She described dancing with you and you profusely 00:38:55.980 --> 00:39:00.739 sweating and that she went on to have bath possibly... 00:39:00.739 --> 00:39:05.300 There's a slight problem with the sweating because 00:39:05.300 --> 00:39:11.059 I have a peculiar medical condition which is 00:39:11.059 --> 00:39:13.920 that I don't sweat. or I didn't sweat at the 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.579 time, and that was... Oh, actually, yes. I didn't 00:39:17.579 --> 00:39:22.159 sweat at the time because I had suffered what 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.519 I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.219 in the Falklands War when I was shot at, and 00:39:28.219 --> 00:39:32.519 I simply... It was almost impossible for me to 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.420 sweat. Do you remember dancing at Tramp? No. 00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.420 That couldn't have happened because the date 00:39:39.420 --> 00:39:42.409 that was being suggested... I was at home with 00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:47.110 the children. You know that you were at home 00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:49.389 with the children. Was it a memorable night? 00:39:49.829 --> 00:39:54.809 On that particular day that we now understand 00:39:54.809 --> 00:39:58.889 is the date, which is the 10th of March, I was 00:39:58.889 --> 00:40:02.110 at home. I was with the children. I'd taken Beatrice 00:40:02.110 --> 00:40:08.429 to a pizza express in Woking for a party at, 00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:10.469 I suppose, sort of four or five in the afternoon. 00:40:10.989 --> 00:40:13.050 Why would you remember that so specifically? 00:40:13.170 --> 00:40:15.570 Why would you remember a Pizza Express birthday 00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:18.510 and being at home? Because going to Pizza Express 00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:23.170 in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do. A 00:40:23.170 --> 00:40:26.230 very unusual thing for me to do. I've only been 00:40:26.230 --> 00:40:29.250 through Woking a couple of times and I remember 00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:32.610 it weirdly, distinctly. As soon as somebody reminded 00:40:32.610 --> 00:40:36.230 me of it, I went, oh yes, I remember that. Thank 00:40:36.230 --> 00:40:38.590 you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. If 00:40:38.590 --> 00:40:41.349 you have liked what you have listened to, please 00:40:41.349 --> 00:40:45.210 like, share, subscribe, or follow depending on 00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:47.969 what venue you are listening to us through. Also, 00:40:48.050 --> 00:40:51.110 please, if possible, leave a five -star review 00:40:51.110 --> 00:40:54.090 as that really helps us in the algorithms. 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