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Anyhow, we're here on a Friday, 48 hours well
after you've decided on your veganism. Here today
with a Chelsea episode. We are your podcast host,
Taylor and Chelsea. Just like letting Chelsea
do her thing now. That was amazing. And it's
official. We foretold the future regular person
Andy is now regular person Andy. I believe our
last update was on regular person Andy being
able to travel again. What with the non -release
of the Epstein files thing. But things are looking
down. Way down for regular Andy now. The question
is less can he travel and more should he travel?
I think his future is looking really uncertain
right now. He's really looking into brain again.
And while we don't generally cover topical news,
I think we're okay on this one to make an exception
because we've been following him for quite a
while now and I just want to revel in the downfall
that he's... Currently going through can I just
yeah, can I just add this point? I've learned
so much about British Andy in this little bit
of time Specifically that like his real name,
which I can't remember in any way But he's got
a real name a real full name that he has to go
by it's not his real name It was a name that
he is being forced to go by now and I think I
don't think anybody knew it It was just they're
like we got to give them something You don't
think they mad lived it, do you? Because that
does feel like... what the upper class British
people might madly they might have because there's
no circumstance in which regular person Andy
was born into this world where he was ever gonna
go by this and he found it so we'll talk about
it today I thought I would do a full episode
on what's going on up until this very point because
I did update it today not only because this is
a story we've been following since I think pretty
much our inception but also because I've just
finished The Rise and Fall of the House of York
and the Virginia Jeffrey memoir Nobody's Girl
both very different reads So in honor of my reading
a book I have collected some articles to go through
on this episode to highlight some of the goings
-on of regular person Andy by the time this comes
out there may be Many more things going on with
him. So let's just jump right in October 15th.
Andrew emails show contact with Epstein lasted
beyond 2010 and I should tell you right now I've
ordered these in chronological order. I'm giving
you the title and then I'll give you a summary.
Yeah and it's not when it's coming out it's when
it happened correct? It would be the the date
of the article so it would be So this one's from
the BBC News, written by Sean Cullan. This article
confirms that Prince Andrew continued corresponding
with Jeffrey Epstein after 2010, despite publicly
claiming he cut ties with the convicted sex offender
that year. The BBC reports on emails from 2011,
including one in which Andrew wrote, quote, I'm
just as concerned for you. Don't worry about
me. It would seem we are in this together and
we'll have to rise above it otherwise keep in
close touch and we'll play some more soon many
exclamation marks and quote This email was sent
the day after a photo of Andrew with Virginia
Dufrey was published. He did publicly go on record
on the BBC documentary, which I have a little
treat for you later. That does say that he did
cut ties with him prior to this. The messages
were uncovered in court documents related to
a separate US case involving former JP Morgan
executive Jess Staley. They suggest that Andrew
maintained a friendly and familiar tone with
Epstein, even after his conviction and release
from prison. Yes, he was pictured with Jeffrey
Epstein after his release from prison. The article
emphasizes that these revelations undermine Andrew's
2019 BBC Newsnight interview where he insisted
he had no further contact with Epstein after
2010. The leak has intensified calls for accountability
with US lawmakers and UK MPs arguing Andrew to
testify. The BBC also notes that the monarchy's
efforts to distance itself from Andrew, such
as stripping him of titles, may not be enough
to contain the reputational damage. In April
2010, months after Epstein's release from prison
for prostituting minors, Andrew emailed Epstein
saying, quote it would be nice to catch up in
person end quote and that he had quote no immediate
plans to drop by new york but i think i should
at some stage soon end quote october 17th we
have a statement i grabbed this right from the
royals website whatever the hell it is i can't
remember they have their own website i did not
know that so this statement's published on their
website a statement from prince andrew quote
in discussion with the king and my immediate
and wider family, we have concluded the continued
accusations about me distract from the work of
His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided,
as I always have, to put my duty to my family
and country first. I stand by my decision five
years ago to stand back from public life. With
His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go
a step further. I will therefore no longer use
my title or the honors which have been conferred
upon me as I have said Previously, I vigorously
deny the accusations against me. End. October
18, 2025. Article titled, York MP Calls on Royal
Family to Explain Source of 12 Million Pound
Virginia Diffree Payment. That's from The Guardian,
Geraldine McKelvey, and Sammy Geksoyler. Are
the authors of that one? The summary of this
article. York MP Rachel Maskell has demanded
transparency from Buckingham Palace regarding
the $12 million settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey
by Prince Andrew. She questions whether public
funds were used and calls for a formal inquiry.
Quote, the public has a right to know whether
their money was used to silence a victim of abuse,
end quote. The article highlights growing political
pressure in the UK for financial accountability.
and suggests that the monarchy's silence is fueling
public distrust. It gets worse. October 25, 2025.
Article title, Prince Andrew's remarks about
Kate sparked royal rift with Prince William.
This isn't the worst part, worser part. It just,
it adds to kind of what's going on. This article
is from Marie Claire, Kaylee Roberts is the author
and the summary of this one is this article explores
how a disparaging comment made by Prince Andrew
about Kate Middleton allegedly triggered a long
-standing rift between him and Prince William.
The remark made early in William and Kate's relationship
reportedly questions Kate's suitability for royal
life and was perceived as snobbish and dismissive.
Quote, attributed to regular person Andy. Quote,
she's just a commenter. She'll never fit in.
Next quote, Andrew has never been a great drudge
of character. So it's not surprising that he
would resent someone as stellar as Kate eclipsing
him and pretty much everyone else in the monarchy.
End quote. I really like that. quote from the
article it just kind of summarized his isn't
like alt royal related to him anyway so is he
saying like you should have married your sister
basically yeah probably he he really is a shitty
judge of character though it's really undeniable
so I just I really liked how that kind of brought
it all kind of together and I also like you know
you can just tell that Prince William just absolutely
fucked and he eats his guts. I don't know how
you can tell it. You just get it off of him.
He's Creepy Uncle Andy. Like straight up. Like
you know they call him that. You just want nothing
to do with him. You can tell. October 30th Buckingham
Palace puts out a statement. They're like we
got to deal with this. This is snowballing. People
are questioning where money's coming from and
everything. And regular person Andy tried to
get ahead of it. He knew this was gonna come
up. It was either gonna be taken from him or
he had to renounce it. So he renounced it. is
that Buckingham Palace is like oh fuck we're
gonna crumble too our approval rating I don't
know if that's what they call it not good we're
on shaky ground so we're gonna put out a statement
because it's not looking good for them either
So they published this on their website, October
30th. His Majesty has today initiated a formal
process to remove the style titles and honors
of Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew will now be known
as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. There you go.
That's, yeah. It's quite the name. It sounds
like a wombat, doesn't it? His lease on Royal
Lodge has to date provided him with legal protection
to continue in residence. Formal notice has now
been served to surrender the lease and he will
move to alternative private accommodation. These
censors are deemed necessary not withstanding
the fact that he continues to deny the allegations
against him. Love that line. Their Majesties
wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost
sympathies have been and will remain with the
victims and survivors of any and all forms of
abuse. And I love their one line in that. So,
we have October 29th, MPs demand clarity over
Prince Andrew's peppercorn rent at Royal Lodge.
This is from The Guardian, author Anisa Ahmed.
This article reports that UK Members of Parliament
are calling for an investigation into the financial
arrangement allowing Prince Andrew to live at
Royal Lodge, a 30 -room mansion in Windsor Great
Park, for a nominal annual rent. The arrangement
stems from a 75 -year lease signed in 2003, but
critics argue it's inappropriate given Andrew's
removal from royal duties in recent scandals.
a working royal and from serious and disturbing
allegations made against him." The Guardian notes
that Andrew has spent millions on renovations
and continues to reside there despite King Charles'
efforts to relocate him. The article raises concerns
about transparency, accountability, and the optics
of privilege, especially as Buckingham Palace
remains silent on the lease's terms and funding
sources. disgraced royal living rent free for
years stings especially during a cost of living
crisis currently happening in many places in
the world October 30th, title, Prince Andrew
is losing his Prince title and his royal estate.
This is from the CBC News. The summary of this
article, Buckingham Palace announces that Prince
Andrew will be stripped of his Prince title and
evicted from Royal Lodge. As we've already learned,
I thought this was a nice summary of it in this
article. He will now be referred to as regular
person Andy. Just kidding. It's Andrew Mountbatten.
Windsor. This decision follows mounting public
and political pressure over his ties to Jeffrey
Epstein and the settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey.
A statement said he will also move out of Royal
Lodge, the home in Windsor Great Park he has
had for decades. Constitutional experts said
the move is unprecedented in the royal family's
modern history, marking the first genuine royal
crisis in Charles' reign. I would say that's
correct. Andy will be moved to Sandringham. Buckingham
Palace isn't saying exactly where Andrew will
live on San Ringham Estate, the King's private
estate in Norfolk, northeast of London. Be fair,
people might murder him if they know where he
lived. Yeah, and I think he's on thin ice with
the royal family as well. He's on time out. San
Ringham as a private estate means that no taxpayer
money will be spent housing Andrew. quote his
majesty has today initiated a formal process
to remove the style titles and honors of prince
andrew and quote the move is seen as king charles's
attempt to protect the monarchy's reputation
amid growing scrutiny and backlash i like this
one october 30th article title a bbc studio audience
applauded the news and this is written by anna
cunningham Summary. Today's news broke during
a recording of the BBC's Question Time, a TV
show debating current issues with political guests
in front of a live studio audience. As the details
of the King's decision was read out by the host
Fiona Bruce, the studio audience gave a resounding
applause. I quite like that. That's beautiful.
That is beautiful. October 30th, 2025. Title
of this one, No Longer Prince Andrew, an expert
on how royals can be stripped of their titles.
This is from The Conversation written by Cindy
McCreary. Cultural historian Cindy McCreary explains
the constitutional and symbolic process behind
stripping royal titles. King Charles issued a
letters patent to remove Prince Andrew's Prince
and His Royal Highness styles, a rare and significant
act. While titles can be revoked by the monarch,
Andrew remains in the line of succession unless
Parliament intervenes. Quote, this is a powerful
symbolic move but it doesn't remove him from
the line of succession. The article emphasizes
that this decision reflects Charles' desire to
modernize and protect the monarchy's reputation
amid scandal. Andrew remains eighth in line to
the throne and could only be removed by the line
of succession by an act of parliament, Prescott
said, which I'm surprised isn't happening, to
be honest with you. That would also require the
consent of the 14 other countries where Charles
is king, including Canada. Wait, we would have
to pass our own thing? I guess. So, I don't think
- Or he could accidentally become king? I would
vote for that. I mean, he would be king here
too, right? Technically. That was a nobody's
ticket in the last election. Yeah, and you know
what? I say do it! Who's gonna vote against this?
I mean, it's gonna cost money to vote to do that,
but I don't think anyone gives a fuck at this
point. They just wanna - It's a pretty minimal
vote. It's true. There have been rare removals
from the line of succession in the past, one
being Prince Michael of Kent, who lost his place
when he married a Catholic in 1978, as per the
Act of Settlement in 1701. With the succession
to the Crown Act in 2013, Prince Michael was
reinstated into the line of succession. So yeah,
that one is really interesting just on the technicalities
over stripping the titles from him against him.
But he's still in the bloodline, right? They
can't take that away unless they kill him. Or
the governor says that you don't count anymore.
Yeah, I guess there's that too. Yeah, killing
him is probably easier. October 31st. Prince
Andrew has lost his titles but could still be
king. What else does he keep? National Post,
Chris Knight. Following King Charles' decision
to strip Prince Andrew of his Prince title and
Royal Honours, the article explores what Andrew
still retains. I'm just gonna read what else
he keeps. So what he keeps, I covered the other
stuff in the other article. He keeps his personal
wealth, military pension, and Falklands war medal,
which was earned through active service and cannot
be revoked, which I think is funny because I
read his book and pretty much they're insinuating
that his whole military career was based on privilege.
Well yeah, he didn't have to actually go to war
in any time. Except that time where he forgot
to sweat. Most people that they had in the book
that were talking about his career in the military
said that he was just this privileged, I guess,
nepo baby in the end. His daughters, princesses,
Beatrice and Eugene retain their titles, though
their public roles are limited as well, which
I was shocked at. The article emphasizes that
while Andrew's public role is over, his legal
and hereditary status, remains intact unless
further action is taken. It also notes that his
new designation, Andrew Montban Windsor, marks
a rare and dramatic shift in his royal identity.
The piece notes that while his public role is
over, his legal and financial entitlements remain
largely intact unless further action is taken.
October 31st, 2025, former Prince Andrew brought
40 prostitutes to a hotel in Thailand using taxpayer
money, reveals historian. Spectacular fall from
grace. This one's the times of India, of all
places reporting. India, the times of them. Well,
technically he's still king of India, isn't he?
I don't... Is he? They're part of the Commonwealth.
Are they? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. A historian
revealed that Prince Andrew allegedly used public
funds to pay for 40 sex workers during a trip
to Thailand. The claim, part of a broader expose
on his spectacular fall from grace, spectacular
it is, has reignited outrage over royal spending
and accountability. Quote, this is not just a
lapse in judgment. It was a grotesque abuse of
privilege. End quote. The article underscores
how Andrew's behavior is long been shielded by
royal status and how recent revelations are fueling
calls for criminal investigation and financial
transparency. Yep, you'll notice that a lot of
these are kind of the monarchy covering up for
his stuff so far. Yep. In everything that's talking
about the past, they're finally putting a foot
down realizing that it's damaging them more than
anything now that his accusations are getting
so very public. October 31st. Prince Andrew,
what his behavior tells us about the royal family.
This is from The Guardian, Caroline Davies. This
analysis critiques the monarchy's long -standing
tolerance of Prince Andrew's behavior, arguing
that his downfall reflects deeper institutional
flaws. The article highlights how Andrew's ties
to Jeffrey Epstein and his refusal to take responsibility
were enabled by a culture of privilege and protection.
This analysis piece delves into the deeper implications
of Prince Andrew's conduct and the royal family's
response. It critiques the monarchy's long -standing
tendency to shield problematic members and questions
whether the institution is truly capable of reform.
Personally, I wouldn't just say reform, but also
the individuals that they're capable of turning
out. This guy is not something, he's not a leader,
he's not something to be proud of. He's just...
a problem, to put it lightly. That's probably
a compliment to him, actually. The article argues
that Andrew's downfall is not just personal,
but emblematic of broader issues within the royal
system, including privilege, lack of accountability,
and outdated traditions. Quote, Andrew's behavior
was tolerated for decades until it became untenable,
end quote. The piece suggests that the palace's
recent actions are reactive rather than proactive,
driven by public outrage. rather than internal
ethics. Quote, Andrew's behavior was tolerated
for decades until it became untenable, end quote.
November 1st, Prince Andrew faces renewed scrutiny
over Virginia Jeffrey claims in panorama follow
-up. The panorama interview is the one that you
talk about with regular person Andy where he
says he doesn't sweat. This one's from The Independent
from Shweta Sharma and Athena Stavrou. This article
covers the release of a follow -up episode of
the BBC's panorama investigation, reigniting
public attention on Virginia Jeffries' allegations
against Prince Andrew. The program includes new
testimony and commentary from legal experts suggesting
that Andrew's legal exposure may not be over.
The piece also highlights the palace's silence
in response to the broadcast, contrasting it
with the swift action taken to strip Andrew of
its titles. His titles. A standout quote from
Jeffrey's lawyer, quote, this is not just about
one man, it's about a system that allowed abuse
to flourish, end quote. The article underscores
the continuing reputational damage to the monarchy.
The BBC's panorama investigation into Prince
Andrew, titled Panorama, the Follow Prince Andrew,
is a documentary series that revisits his ties
to Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Jeffrey. featuring
previously unaired footage and new revelations.
And like I said, the original one was aired in
2019. I rewatched it in preparation for this
episode and man, it is a hard watch. It is a
hard watch. Yeah. All the way through. He's just
lying through his teeth. All he can say is I
don't remember meeting her and he's stumbling
all over himself He's like that picture specifically
remembers the pizza. Yeah, he remembers the pizza
He goes well that picture was taken upstairs
and I've never been upstairs in Jelaine Maxwell's
house and just how he keeps repeating that and
he keeps saying it was taken upstairs like how
would you know that was taken upstairs if you've
never been there and then he's like i've never
been to that club that virginia roberts at the
time said that i was there with her at because
i don't know where that club is yeah he has beautiful
beautiful excuses why they let him do that i
think it just i i think it's just privilege Honestly,
the whole interview just... It reeks of privilege.
It reeks of somebody who knows, thinks they can
pull a fast one on someone. And he clearly can't.
He cannot. And that's why I said it reeks of
privilege. So the follow -up episode did just
come out in 2025, November 2025. And it features
previously unseen footage from Jeffrey's 2019
interview. She says in the footage, quote, I
was a toy. I was there to be passed around, but
I was still a human being with feelings. emotion
and sadness." She expressed disbelief that Andrew,
a father of daughters, could still abuse her.
Key themes are emotional depth, The episode highlights
Jeffrey's pain in humanity, contrasting it with
Andrew's perceived lack of accountability. Legal
experts interviewed in the documentary argue
that Andrew's case reflects broader failures
in elite institutions protect vulnerable individuals,
and the broadcast intensified calls for transparency
around Andy's settlement with Jeffrey and his
continued legal exposure. The Panorama episode
added pressure on the royal family, especially
as it aired just days after Andy was stripped
of his titles and evicted from Royal Lodge. It
also fueled speculation about further legal consequences
and the monarchy's role in shielding its members.
Next article, November 1st, House Democrats asked
former Prince Andrew to appear for questioning
about Jeffrey Epstein. From CBS News by Haley
Ott, the U .S. House Democrats are calling for
Prince Andrew to testify about his relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein and the financial settlement
paid to Virginia Jeffrey. Lawmakers argue that
Andrew's involvement may shed light on Epstein's
broader network and the mechanisms of elite protection.
Quote, we cannot allow powerful men to evade
accountability simply because they wear a crown,
end quote. Representative Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez.
The article notes that. Ocasio. Oh, you're going
to like this. AOC. What? Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez.
Oh yeah, you got it. The article notes that diplomatic
immunity no longer applies to Andrew and that
subpoenas of formal requests may follow if UK
cooperation is secured, now that he has no titles.
Yeah, hopefully, but he's also, like, he's picking
his places he's flying pretty carefully right
now. Yeah, yeah, but he's no longer back to your
miles, Auntie. No, he is Bahrain Andy at most.
He had such a brief glimpse of potential freedom.
Oil brain Andy. November 1st, Met Police looks
into reports Prince Andrew asked Officer to investigate
Accuser, which is Virginia Jeffery, as William
Plans ruthless approach towards the Royals. This
is Sky News. I couldn't find the author on this
one. This article reports that the Metropolitan
Police have been asked to investigate whether
Prince Andrew committed misconduct by allegedly
attempting to smear Virginia Jeffery in 2011.
The request stems from claims that Andrew instructed
his Royal Protection Officer to dig up damaging
information on Jeffery shortly after her allegations
became public. Quote, if true, this would amount
to a serious abuse of power and obstruction,
end quote, said a legal source. The article also
highlights less importantly that Prince William
is taking a ruthless stance toward Andrew, supporting
his permanent exclusion from royal events and
future coronations. Lawyers for Epstein's victims
predict more damaging leaks are imminent, potentially
involving other high profile figures. What does
life look like for Prince Andrew now that he's
been stripped of his titles? This is Marie Claire
from Kristen Contino. Kristen Contino explores
Andrew's post -title lifestyle. He's been evicted
from Morrill Lodge and will relocate to a private
residence in San Rigan Mistate. The article paints
a picture of isolation and diminished influence,
noting that regular person Andy's routine will
consist of quiet weekends, legal consultations,
and limited public visibility. November 1st,
ex -Prince Andrew faces increased calls by U
.S. lawmakers to testify in Epstein case. This
one's by Politico EU staff Jacob Wiseman. Following
renewed scrutiny of Prince Andrew's ties to Jeffrey
Epstein, several U .S. lawmakers are urging him
to testify before Congress. The pressure intensified
after Virginia Jeffrey's death and the release
of new BBC footage. Lawmakers argued that Andrew's
testimony could shed light on Epstein's network
and the role of powerful figures in enabling
abuse. The American people deserve answers. If
Andrew has nothing to hide, he should come forward.
The article notes that while Andrew is no longer
a working royal, diplomatic and legal hurdles
remain, his lawyers have declined comment, and
UK officials have not confirmed cooperation.
Mostly they just want to hear if he knew Trump
in any way, which he probably did. Trump loves
clout. November 2nd, 2025, Andrew erased royal
tributes to Jeffrey Epstein victims. That one's
from the Times, Tom Sykes. The expose reveals
that Prince Andrew repeatedly removed references
to Epstein's victims from official palace statements
over the years. How does he have access to that?
I feel like he walked into the wrong room and
just Mr. Beaned them out of existence. Doesn't
he feel like a Mr. Bean type character? Yeah,
yeah he does. He does. A source close to the
King and Queen said Andrew resisted acknowledging
the victim's suffering even after his disastrous
2019 interview. Quote, each time courtiers drafted
in references to the victims, they were removed
after they went to Andrew for sign -off. Why
would they go to him for sign -off? The article
highlights internal frustration within the royal
family, especially from Camilla and Sophie, whose
advocacy for abuse survivors clashed with Andrew's
evasiveness. I think Sophie's their sister, is
it not? I have no idea. Oh yeah, here's a good
one. November 3rd. Donald Trump feels badly for
the royal family after ex -Prince Andrew is stripped
of his title's tragic situation. This one's from
OK Magazine from Irene Marie Espera. Donald Trump
commented on Prince Andrew's title removal, expressing
sympathy for the royal family. He reportedly
told aides he feels badly about the situation
and believes Andrew was thrown under the bus.
It's a shame. I always liked him. He was a gentleman.
Oh god, the misogynistic tone of that. The article
notes Trump's past interactions with Andrew and
Epstein and frames his remarks as part of a broader
pattern of defending controversial figures. Oh,
I like this one too. Okay, I like all my articles,
okay? Name change call for Prince Andrew Road
in Maidenhead. That's the article title. From
the BBC News. Some residents of Prince Andrew
Road and Prince Andrew clothes in Maidenhead
have requested that the streets be renamed. citing
discomfort with the association after Prince
Andrew was stripped of his titles and re -designated
as Andrew Mountain Batten Windsor. The Rhodes
were originally named in the 1960s to honor his
birth. The Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
stated that any formal application for renaming
would be assessed according to local procedures,
which require unanimous agreement from all property
owners on the affected streets. Quote, it's not
right to have a street named after someone who's
brought shame on the royal family, said one resident.
The article also notes that similar calls have
emerged in Helsten near Norwich, although the
road was named after Prince Andrew of Greece
and Denmark, not the Duke. of York. But it was
so bad that they just have to get rid of it.
Yeah, exactly. They don't know about that guy
anymore. and final article titled this is published
yesterday ex -prince andrew insisting on royal
staff and not feeling confined in new homes says
former butler this is marie claire written by
amy mckelden this article reveals that prince
andrew now officially regular person andy is
reportedly refusing to scale back his royal lifestyle
even after being stripped of his titles and evicted
from royal lodge according to his former butler
and Drew is insisting on retaining royal staff,
including footmen and valets, and continues to
behave as though he is entitled to full royal
treatment. I mean, to be fair, the guy can't
drive. He has never driven in his life. You expect
him to pick up driving at like 65? Yes, he's
now regular. He was behaving irregular now. No,
he was really behaving like royalty now, wasn't
he? Yeah, just the part we don't want to talk
about with royalty. Yeah, exactly. quote, he
still expects to be treated like a prince even
if the palace says otherwise, end quote. The
article also notes that Andrew does not feel
confined in his new smaller residence and is
allegedly resisting efforts by King Charles to
further reduce his privileges. The former butler
describes Andrew as delusional and in denial
about his change status. The article frames this
as a part of a broader pattern of Andrew's refusal
to accept accountability even as public and political
pressure mounts. What say you? What do you have
to say about all of this? Oh man, just first
off. It's a train wreck. It's a train wreck.
The royal family is trying to maintain any form
of decadence that they can or at least persona
that they are royal. Yeah. So they are just ditching
him as fast as they can. Matt, he is trying to
do his own damage control, but I feel he's in
charge of his damage control. And he's an idiot.
He is a fucking idiot. He's a total idiot. And
you know, I really needed these articles too
to put the monarchy in a different light for
me because yes, I totally got before reading
all of these that they're outdated. Who needs
the monarchy in my raid? But it just gives this...
whole larger implication of they're only finally
doing something about this now when they're being
absolutely hands tied forced to because they
can't look away from it anymore. They will be
destroyed if they don't do something about it.
That's basically it. When before like when Queen
Elizabeth was alive she was doing everything
to pay off this kind of stuff to push it to the
side so that nobody paid attention to it and
they were quite content doing that and I think
now they're realizing that they're not able to
do that so they had to take a much more oh brazen
report and it almost seems like they're being
celebrated for actually doing something when
they should have done look at you guys doing
the bare minimum Yeah exactly. So I think they
really opened my eyes at least in these articles
showing the behavior that was covering up for
what is clearly an idiot acting incredibly inappropriately.
See idiot might be the wrong term for him. Entitled
frat boy I think is like fully how I encapsulate
British Andy. And you're not lying and he's very
from the book that I read about him too. He's
very like naive. Yeah No, it's ignorance and
idiocy can seem the same, but they are different
things. It's true. He's very entitled and can't
read a room. And all of those together do make
me summarize it as an idiot. But you're right,
they are different from idiots. And I do find
it hilarious because you can exist as an individual
with those skills and still make a fortune as
the second born. to the Queen of England, but
he fucked it up. And it's because he kind of
acted as the firstborn. It's funny because he
does have a certain kind of arrogance to the
stupidity. Because he thought he could get on...
I almost think it's a pretentiousness. It's a
pretentiousness that he just thinks he's better
than them. Yeah, because he could go on there
and make up all these lies that he doesn't sweat
and think that people are just gonna believe
him. Yeah, they'll get it, because I'm royal
-born, whereas they're the common folk. That
has to be one of the biggest royal fuck -ups
in history, that they let him do that. It's pretty
high up there. It's pretty high up there. I mean,
there's only a small timeline where Royals could
be interviewed in the grand timeline of things.
I don't know. Like, I picture it the same way
as, like, him in front of a large crowd of the
masses, like, saying, people of the land, I must
tell you, for I do not sweat. I do not sweat.
It couldn't have been me. These rumors are salacious
of me. That's his all. No further follow -up
questions. Oh, he's such a jackass. Yeah. I just
- I almost feel like that's how we thought it
was actually gonna happen instead of an interview.
Because there were follow -up questions. There
was, and she just kept reading the question back
to him after he said his reply. And you know
what? He's in a free fall right now going down.
I don't see an end to this. This last one where
he's trying to keep his butler and stuff like
that was just published yesterday. So by the
time this is published, you get your episode
on a Friday, he may be dead. Yeah, we don't know
where the ground for Royals are. There may be
no more monarchy, we don't know. But this is
what we can do with this time. He might be king,
weirdly enough. Like still, like we said, Ethan
Lye. Yeah, yeah. If he went on the murder spree.
Yeah, it's true. Oh, fuck. We could be living
in a weird world by the time this gets to your
ears. And yeah, it was a fun episode to look
at and I just... I just read them and I laugh
because and I both laugh and recoil because I
still feel like based on that last article it's
not hit enough. This is not a rock bottom for
him. Oh no, he is not a rock bottom. He hasn't
even tried heroin as far as I can tell. No, I
would say he's definitely, he's not hard enough
to have tried heroin by this point. Oh no. Maybe
he's tried heroin by the time this comes out.
No, Chelsea, at this point he has heard about
the marijuana. Oh, I don't know. No, he has heard
about it. Okay. He hasn't tried it. That's his
heart, the hard drug he heard about is the marijuana.
Okay, okay. Now that sounds real. Yeah, that's
the regular personality update we all needed.
And to take us on out of this one, I'm going
to leave you with some special excerpts of the
BBC interview about regular personality not being
able to sweat. Oh, good. And with that, I have
been Taylor, here with Chelsea. We are Journey
to the Fringe. Thank you all for listening. We'll
see you next week. Bye. One of Epstein's accusers,
Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against
you. She was very specific about that night.
She described dancing with you and you profusely
sweating and that she went on to have bath possibly...
There's a slight problem with the sweating because
I have a peculiar medical condition which is
that I don't sweat. or I didn't sweat at the
time, and that was... Oh, actually, yes. I didn't
sweat at the time because I had suffered what
I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline
in the Falklands War when I was shot at, and
I simply... It was almost impossible for me to
sweat. Do you remember dancing at Tramp? No.
That couldn't have happened because the date
that was being suggested... I was at home with
the children. You know that you were at home
with the children. Was it a memorable night?
On that particular day that we now understand
is the date, which is the 10th of March, I was
at home. I was with the children. I'd taken Beatrice
to a pizza express in Woking for a party at,
I suppose, sort of four or five in the afternoon.
Why would you remember that so specifically?
Why would you remember a Pizza Express birthday
and being at home? Because going to Pizza Express
in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do. A
very unusual thing for me to do. I've only been
through Woking a couple of times and I remember
it weirdly, distinctly. As soon as somebody reminded
me of it, I went, oh yes, I remember that. Thank
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