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I have a limited choice for you this week because

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I have some things that I think would be good

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to cover for the mini, but I've just, I've not

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been saving them into my choice document, my

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regular choice document. I've been saving it

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into my notepad to transfer it into my document.

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So I'm just going to choose one. Okay. Cause

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all I'm hearing is excuses right now. So let's

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just get past those. Yeah. Yeah. I probably shouldn't

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have started with that, but here we are. So this

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one's from boardpanda .com. That doesn't sound

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any different than most pandas. I don't think

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that's an adjective You need to add to pan honestly

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doesn't sound any different than any of our regular

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sources Sometimes at least we know how to pronounce

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this one. I assume yeah This one is titled hundreds

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of detainees reportedly missing from ice records

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after being sent to alligator Alcatraz Oh, I

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know about this one. It's real up. It's Peter

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Michael de Jesus and it was published September

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29, 2025. I thought it would be good to cover

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because I haven't heard anything on it. So, a

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chilling report has suggested that nearly two

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-thirds of the 1 ,800 men brought to Florida's

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new immigration detention center, branded Alligator

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Alcatraz, could not be found in federal databases.

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Families and attorneys have claimed that they've

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lost track of loved ones with numerous detainees

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reportedly disappearing from official records.

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The U .S. Department Department of Homeland Security,

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however, has claimed that none of the detention

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centre's detainees are unaccounted for. News

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about Alligator Alcatraz's missing detainees

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was initially reported by the Miami Herald, which

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obtained two detainee rosters from July and August.

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By checking them against Immigration and Customs

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Enforcement, ICE, databases, the Herald alleged

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that a good portion of the centre's detainees

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seemed to be missing. Reporters reportedly found

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that a around 800 detainees had no records at

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all, while another 450 were listed only with

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the vague instruction to call ICE for details.

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This meant that the whereabouts of nearly 1 ,200

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men, or about two thirds of those brought to

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the facility in July, could not be determined

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by late August. The center, built in just eight

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days, and what? I didn't know that. It's tense

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in the middle of the bayou. That's crazy. Eight

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days and officially run by Florida's division

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of emergency management does not maintain a public

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detainee database. This has reportedly resulted

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in attorneys and family members being left in

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the dark. It became a game of chicken to see

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who's going to blink first, to see if the client's

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going to say, I don't want to be detained in

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these conditions, just send me back. That was

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a quote. Miami immigration attorney Alex Solomiani

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told the Herald. Some men, like a 53 year old

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Guatemalan, who had lived in the US since 2001,

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reportedly vanished from court dockets after

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being detained. His lawyer said he was mistakenly

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deported to Guatemala instead of being transferred

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to another detention center, according to The

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Mirror. In another case, Cuban national Michael

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Borrego Fernandez was deported to Mexico despite

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recovering from surgery. His family described

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the silence around his case as psychological

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torture. The US Department of Homeland Security

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pushed back on the Herald's in a statement to

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Snopes, which asked about the matter, the agency

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argued that all of its detainees on the site

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are accounted for, quote, false. No one is unaccounted,

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including at Alligator Alcatraz. In ICE's online

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detention locator system, this is yet another

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hoax about the facility, end quote, the USDHS

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stated. Attorneys and human rights advocates,

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however, claimed otherwise. Court filings from

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the American Civil Liberties Union have argued

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that the detention center has violated detainees'

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constitutional rights by making it nearly impossible

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for lawyers to contact their clients. Families

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for their part have also claimed that they've

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been left in limbo. Records reviewed by the Herald

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even suggested that the vast majority of detainees

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didn't have final orders of removal before they

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entered alligator alcatraz. Snopes concluded

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that while it could not independently verify

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every name on the Herald's list, real -life cases

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like Borrego Fernandez's have shown the detainees

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have indeed gone missing from the system or been

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deported without notice. The fact -checking website

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suggested that this may mean that the missing

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detainees in the ISIS system have either been

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deported or sent to unknown facilities without

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their families or attorneys' knowledge. It's

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a temporary stay before being flown to their

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home country, one commenter stated. It's called

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they got sent back to their country, no one is

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missing, wrote another. The reality is that facility

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is to detain, process, A bit of a background

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on Alligator Alcatraz. Apparently, despite it

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only taking eight days to build, it still cost

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$20 million to build and it's going to have an

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annual budget of $450 million to run. that's

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crazy and i do want to comment the fact that

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the government is saying oh yeah don't worry

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we know where everybody is that's also kind of

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damning in that even if that's true they're not

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telling people where they are yeah like almost

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intentionally if they do know where it is i'm

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obviously there's a good chance they're lying

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because that's what they love to lie but there's

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a chance of that from what i know of it that

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seems a boat on brand but people arguing that

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maybe they just got sent back to their countries

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There would be documentation showing they were

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sent back to their countries if they were sent,

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particularly with the embassy or the country

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that they're being deported to. Well, there is

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people being deported to, you know, countries.

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Countries they should not be. Yeah. In the middle

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of like destitute Africa. Yeah. War zones themselves

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like really dangerous to be being deported to.

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Yeah, South Sudan, of all places, was getting

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some. I can't imagine. I think I might have been

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here. Quote, the reality is that this facility

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is to detain, process and either deport or release.

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The planes leave from the airstrip on the premises.

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There's zero reason that they should all still

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be there. It's not a prison, another commentator

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said. Others, however, remained aghast at the

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missing records of the facility's detainees.

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There's no record. Deported people have a record.

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They just go before a judge. In brackets, you

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ever heard of due process? bracket. These people

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have been wiped from the database and there's

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no record of where they went. It happened in

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Germany too. Learn your history end quote one

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commenter stated. Over a thousand unaccounted

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for from a single facility within the first 60

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days of operations. Think about that really really

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think about that end quote an article. 20 people

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a day going missing. Yes, I don't know that there's

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a whole lot to comment on that other than what

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you've commented but I thought it was important

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nonetheless because I haven't been hearing a

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whole lot about that so I just thought it was

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good too. And I do think it's important to also

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emphasize that although it is like front and

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center, this is just one holding center for immigrants

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and ICE detainees in the U .S. It's likely a

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huge problem and I don't know there is a chance

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that the worst case scenario is what has happened

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and at least some of these people are dead yeah

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yeah but yeah i mean let's not you guys got 48

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hours do not focus on that sorry about this wednesday

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yep don't do it it's got to get better from here

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you would think yeah anyhow bye bye