From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
to Journey to the Fringe, where, hey, I think
these are privileges that you guys just feel
entitled to at this point. And you know what?
No, I work hard on these. So maybe sometimes
you don't get these right here. Anyhow. Podcast
host Taylor Chelsea. Chelsea episode. There,
go. Oh, okay. I'm starting to think that this
is like the last episode and it's a one -way
street. And we're giving so much. We're giving
them the gifts. Exactly. I'm so excited for this
episode. Taylor, if I were to ask you, who was
Skinny Bob? Would you have any idea what I was
talking about? I would... If it was outside of,
like, the podcast, I would think of, like, Bob,
Bob. Who do we know who's Bob, like, in common?
I don't think we have a Bob in common. Well,
that's not true. I had a friend growing up whose
dad's name was Bob, but I don't think I would,
like, call him Skinny, so. But because it's a
podcast about fringe topics, I would think you're
talking about some type of cryptid or an alien,
potentially. Because that kind of feels like
one of those alien interviews, Skinny Bob. I
like how you feel about this out. Okay. I'm going
to say I don't know. I don't know. But by that,
I take away that your understanding of who Skinny
Bob was, was like mine when I was scrolling through
YouTube one day and there's a video that popped
up about Skinny Bob and I was intrigued because
I didn't know who Skinny Bob was. Well, today...
And I'm just curious, was it the title Skinny
Bob or the thumbnail? That drew you in. I have
to know this. I can't remember because by this
point it was like a month or two ago. But whatever
it was, it was about Skinny Bob. So I would assume
it was both that drew me in. Intrigued a little
bit. And so I clicked on it and I was like, meh.
But then here we are today. I'm going to skip
the whole middle part. Here we are. And today
where we're at now, we're getting a nice little
essential things you need to know to talk about
Skinny Bob at a dinner party or follow along
if someone brings them up like right now. Taylor's
really unprepared in this situation. So I'm going
to give him the down low in case it ever comes
up again. And you guys are just going to be brought
into it not being caught off guard like Taylor.
Skinny Bob, he's an entity on linked videotapes
containing footage of a gray -like alien. It
continues to divide opinion within the UFO community.
I know exactly what you're talking about now.
No definitive proof of its authenticity or fabrication.
It's the interview with the gray, right? It's
not the one you're thinking of. Oh, okay. I don't
think. We're going to take a look into the whole
thing. The video first appears on the internet
in early May 2011, which is exactly vague enough
for this introduction. The uploader claimed that
they were leaked KGB files of alien encounters
from the 1940s to 1960s. There and about. To
talk about Skinny Bob, first we have to talk
about not Skinny Bob. Let's set the scene. It's
2011, which has a lot going on for UFOs that
I didn't actually know about what was going on
at the time. The UK drops 35 Ministry of Defense
UFO files. 8 ,500 pages released to the public
of people who claim to have been abducted, pilots,
reports, mass sightings, so on, all in regards
to UFOs. Then the FBI launches the vaults, and
from there, the 1950 Hottel Memo gets released,
sparking a crazy amount of UFO researcher interest.
Guy Hoddle wrote to the director of the FBI saying
that an investigator for the United States Air
Force stated that three flying saucers had been
recovered in New Mexico, described as being circular
in shape with raised centers about 50 feet in
diameter, each occupied by three bodies of human
shape but only three feet tall and dressed in
metallic cloth of very fine texture. Each was
bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout
suits used by speed flyers and test pilots. Now,
that's 2011 that the Hoddle memo was leaked.
We've talked about a lot of stuff to do with
like Roswell and when the bodies were recovered
and stuff like that. So just something to keep
in the back of your mind with that 2011 that
was leaked in FBI files. They also said that
the saucers that were found in New Mexico were
dropped due to very high powered radar set up
in that area. Believed that it was affected by
the navigation system of the saucers. So lots
of UFO stuff going down in the world in 2011.
And this is around the time of alien autopsy
videos coming out. And other recovered alien
videos posted out of Russia are floating around.
Lots of hoaxes. In March, the Pentagon admitted
to having 2 ,400 high -classified sensitive files
stolen from them. And directly preceding all
of this, a new channel emerges on YouTube and
uploads four strange videos, which is exactly
the sentence you want to hear on the podcast.
Video. But we're groundbreaking here at Journey
to the Fringe and we don't give a... fuck we're
doing videos april 13 2011 user ivan0135 creates
a profile that uploads a video the very same
day according to the channel description the
creator is from russia and was born in 1969 he
only ever posts the four videos ever on these
videos you get a glimpse of what appears to be
real ufos and real evens Graze, if you prefer.
I don't know, I prefer even. I know, everyone
prefers even. It implies they're from Serpo.
Exactly. We're going to see that the uploaded
clips are small samples selectively taken from
a larger collection of video material. The original
footage is apparently spread across several physical
tapes. And Ivan provides a detailed list of tape
numbers and timestamps for all the clips presented.
You'll see it come together. Even embeds an animated
timestamp into the first two videos to indicate
where the original footage, the sequence was
taken from. Here's what we're going to do, Taylor.
We're going to pull up a video, watch it, give
you the gist of the video. I'll read the YouTube
description, tell you what's going on, get your
thoughts on it. And we're going to take a little
bit of a closer look at each video. I want you
to just take it all in and keep your opinions
until the very end of the second episode. I just
want you to observe, take it all in. I'll give
you all the information you need. So just remain
silent when we watch them? Like, let me know
what your general thoughts are, but I want you
to form an opinion as we go along and give me
your final opinion at the end, I think is what
I'm looking for. Okay. Don't form any thoughts
immediately is what I'm trying to say based on
what you're watching. I used skinnybob .info
which does an incredibly detailed analysis of
this whole thing. It's crazy the amount of work
that these people have put into these videos.
I'm going to go through only a couple points
for each video. I'll do what I think is the most
relevant. Not everything is going to be included
because it is so detailed. We're talking a breakdown
of possible locations, buildings, stabilized
videos, measurements, background components,
everything. I don't need to go through it in
such detail. So if you're compelled by the power
of Skinny Bob, you can check it out there. So
without further ado, let me get Taylor this first
video. You got it? Okay. You can see it? I can
see it and I can hear it. Here we go. Oh, I have
seen these videos. What we're starting with is
a symbol of the KGB. Above and below have black
bars, which we assume are censoring something.
Words, probably. Moving on, we're seeing a saucer
-shaped UFO hovering statically above a building.
Looks to be shot from the perspective of a moving
car, maybe a train. After watching this a million
times, I do feel like it looks like they're filming
it from a train, because you do see kind of like
a train kind of thingy go by a window. Then the
footage transitions to a closer look at the craft
from the air, looking down on the craft like
a plane, maybe, before depicting a scene of what
appears to be a UFO crash, of what we assume
is the same craft with UFO in the background.
smoke billowing from the UFO, and then one being
seen standing in the frame in bad lighting before
panning to the craft and another being laying
on the ground, who is moving. You don't really
see him moving from how briefly we watched the
clip, but when you slow it down, he is moving.
Then we see very briefly what appears to be an
autopsy. The whole thing has a kind of old -timey
security footage feel to it. And I think it's
important to say old timey. You mean like pre
1940s. Like it is super old. Yeah. So I don't
know. Did you catch the autopsy at the end? I
kind of did the body laying on the bed. I didn't
see them performing an autopsy, but I kind of
assumed it's on a bed for a purpose. I'm going
to read the description in the YouTube video
now. It reads, leaked Air Force UFO footage,
confidential. Classified document 1942 to 1969.
Relevant information. The video contains a sample
edited fragments of tapes 01, 03, and 04. Tape
duration, 180 minutes. Total recorded duration.
Wait, sorry. Mm -hmm. There's a recorded 180
minutes, and we got, what, 20 seconds? Yes. Okay.
That's what the description says. Total recorded
duration, 1 .260 minutes, which I assume is how
long that YouTube video is. Yeah. So then it
goes down to break it down. Tape one, case 07,
Tin Bird. 0841 to 0847. Tape 3, Case 15, Flying
Twin, 2711 to 2713. Case 15, Flying Twin, 2734
to 2739. Tape 4, Blue Boys, 4250 to 4251. Case
23, Blue Boys, 4809 to 4816. Case 24, Blue Boys
Meeting, 4330 to 4332. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting,
5612 to 5614. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting, 5826
to 5828. I can hear you watching the video. Yeah,
sorry. I don't know why it's coming out of a
different speaker. From this description, we
can put together that the footage is compiled
from four videos. The leaked material allegedly
covers a span of 27 years, starting in 1942.
Yeah, because for some reason, it has in the
bottom of the video, almost like a 1980s camcorder,
it has the date, time, year. And we'll talk about
that. So, from the title of these videos that
they're talking about, it's thought that perhaps
Blue Boys might be referring to Project Blue
Book. Project Blue Book was created in 1952,
but the material in Ivan's possession allegedly
covers a span from 1942 to 1969. So, it is possible.
And is it Russia? So, they wouldn't really know
about it. It's up for debate where it's from.
Who knows if this Ivan person is playing it that
way. The style of the house that we see in the
video. You're right. I assume because you keep
saying Ivan, that it was Russian. And it does
say. There are a lot of Russian ties to it. Now,
there are people who have broken down this video
to think that the house is, in fact, in the United
States, just based on the style. Yeah, the first
shot I saw is like, oh yeah, this is American.
I just kind of thought from what I saw. But I
was not allowed to give my opinions on this.
You can give your opinion. Just hold your full
opinions to form a full one. So it is possible
that the Blue Boys and Blue Boys meeting scenes
were recorded after 1952 if these are based on
Project Blue Book. Let's talk about a few details
that are found in the video. So first, you'll
see here in my notes, this image. Okay. This
image, which is the first image that we see in
the video. Right, right. And that may be why
I assumed it was Russian. Because that's clearly
Russian writing. Yes, but they block it out on
the video. Oh. So it turns out that this opening
still image was taken from a documentary, which
was titled The Secret KGB UFO Files, which was
released in 1998. That of which has been debunked.
And here's obviously the original image, which
translates to top secret KGB archive. We also
see that Ivan has tampered with the original
footage by applying various effects, such as
the damaged film overlay and old projector sounds.
Those are not on the original film footage. I
kind of assumed that. Like, that didn't seem
like it should be there. Yeah, so they are added
after the fact. Additionally, there is generally
a consensus that all the effects have been applied
digitally to presumably clean underlying footage.
Clean or make it look specific? Yes, both. I
think by clean it means... As well, that time
code that you pointed out running at the bottom
has also been embedded digitally after the fact
using the Microsoft font. Consoles, which was
released in 2006. There are a multitude of reasons
Ivan may have been compelled to use these effects,
including a cover -up of a hoax. Maybe Ivan thought
it looked cooler this way. Maybe Ivan was doing
damage control for stolen top secret videos.
Blackmail. Ambiguous Provence. Intentional obfuscation
of a layer of abstraction. And D, watermarking
attempt in case of multiple distinct copies circulating
among those in the know. So he added it so he
knew it was his? Potentially? Is that what they're
kind of saying? Potentially many reasons he could
have added it, including basically what they're
saying is, I mean, there's multiple reasons that
he's saying it could be covered up. Number one
is he think it looks cooler. to add those effects.
It's 2011. Like, you're adding effects. It's
gotta look flashy. People don't want it to be
boring alien footage. Another one is damage control,
which could be multiple reasons. Number one,
so that you're covering up major identifying
factors in a video if you have stolen this video
and are leaking it as a whistleblower. You're
covering for stolen top secret videos. There
could be a million things. Blackmail. You stole
it and are blackmailing someone. So you're putting
it together without identifying features because
you're blackmailing somebody. Dewatermarking
in an attempt of multiple distinct copies circulating
among those in the know. So trying to cover up
obvious watermarks in the video that show ownership
or something like that. Oh, it's almost like
putting a redacted over like a trademark. Okay.
Exactly. Because this is a lot of video footage
that apparently they have. It was what, 180 minutes?
Yeah. 180 minutes from which they posted a minute.
Yeah, exactly. Okay, so my next point is the
name Flying Twin. So Flying Twin is the part
of the video where we're seen flying from above
the object. Okay. Which is a bit mysterious.
It might refer to the situation in the sky where
the aircraft is being accompanied by a UFO in
close proximity. When pilots report UFO encounters,
they often claim the UFO was mirroring their
movements while maintaining a constant distance.
Such maneuvering might have led to the title.
My thought on the whole thing, Flying Twin to
me says... twin. It's another UFO. Perhaps it's
being shot from another UFO. That's what I get
from it anyway. I didn't see that anywhere in
anything that I read that that's potentially
what it could be. However, that's what I take
from Flying Twin. There's literally not enough
footage to say the UFO is twinning it. Like,
it is, what, five seconds long, maybe seven seconds
at most? It's nothing to make any obvious. Of
watching it? Yeah. And it seems to just be floating.
Yeah. That's it. Which is a point towards the
optification that they're referring to in that
they're such short videos. You can't really grasp
a whole lot of what's going on in these videos.
And it doesn't appear to have a reason why it's
shortened. Like, it seems pretty clear if this
was natural video, it did go on longer. The only
real reason they can really say is because they
need to shorten it so people didn't know they
were the leakers or something like that. That's
very true. It is very clearly a leak, I think,
is what we can say by the shortened videos. It's
very clearly not a whole video. I think we can
all agree. Absolutely. I don't know if we can
say it's very clearly a leak. To me, it's very.
clear that it's a leak especially when they're
putting that it's 180 minutes and we're getting
very very short glimpses without much to go back
on but chelsea yeah the leaker and i say it with
like hand quotation marks which are great for
use during a podcast yeah just like videos they
could just be like so i Yeah, I mean, I'm just
saying that because, like, based on what I'm
seeing, it seems kind of like that. But you're
probably going to edit this part out just so
that you can keep that. Yeah. Like, I'll get
into the further details in the next episode.
Based on lens flares of the alien and disposed
portion of the video, you'll remember there's
a UFO on fire, which you can't really tell from
the brief glimpse of it, but there is smoke billowing
from it. It is clearly a crash. Oh, I did not
notice that one. Yeah. Based on a lens flare
of the alien and disposed portion of the video,
they were able to put together that the shakiness
of the video is artificial as a post -processing
effect. also confirm that the camera was recording
these live. Amazing what you can put together
from a lens flare. And another fun fact about
the alien and disposed portion of the clip, it's
the only place where we see the feet of these
beings. It's to be noted that the upload dates
of the videos are important events in the history
of the Soviet Union and speculated that together
with the name Ivan and the KGB logo, the publishing
dates could have been chosen intentionally to
further imply a Russian origin. Maybe that was
a clear way of saying it in the beginning, that
it was of a Russian origin. This could also be
implied on purpose. I also just wonder, and this
is if it's somebody who's trying to fake something,
if it's easier to say like, oh, it's Russian,
so the technology's not as good, so it looks
crappier. Well, that same year, 2011, when this
was leaked, there were a couple of Russian videos
that were leaked. One was a found alien body.
And it was later confirmed to be a hoax of chicken
skin and chicken bones stuffed with something.
I think I know the exact one you're talking about.
It's the tiny alien, right? Yeah, yeah, in the
snow. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to share my screen
again. I have a bunch of clips for you to watch.
But this skinnybob .info did a great job. Last
portion of the video, Blue Boy's meeting is actually,
can you see this? Yes. Yeah. Oh, and they stitched
it all together. Okay. Yeah, they did a great
job. So Blue Boy's meeting is actually pretty
intriguing. Thank you SkinnyBob .info for the
incredible in -depth research they did into this.
They put all the clips together of the alien
autopsy to create like a panoramic photo. So
here you go. Just to take a look at that. Actually,
you know what? While I'm sharing my screen, can
you see what I'm doing right now? See, they recreate.
Just look at this. They recreate the house. Oh,
yeah. They're trying to figure out where in America
it is. Yeah, you could say, like, this seems
like it's kind of a distinct building. So you
could say, like, hey, where was this film? I
actually want to show you while we're on the
panoramic film. I just realized I didn't put
it in here. Here is, can you see this? They actually
put together the panoramic film of the crash.
Wow. Which I thought was pretty cool. That's
a great job. You only see a glimpse of it. Good
for them. But here, you see the whole thing.
whole thing together so yeah that's video one
and we're gonna go on to video two i'm just gonna
give you this to watch in general. And I'm going
to just read my stuff while you watch this. Ah,
I now understand the talking out loud before.
Oh, I have definitely seen this video. Titled
Alien Gray Extraterrestrial Zeta Reticuli UFO
Leaked Footage. The 1st of May 2011. No description
is provided by Ivan0135 for this video. The video
track starts with several paragraphs of text
providing background information. about the material
I'm gonna read it to you while you watch this
so let you listen to this okay I'm ahead so maybe
I'll just wait and catch be on the same page.
Okay, that would bother me as well if I was trying
to read something and someone was reading it.
Ten seconds behind, yes. So, yeah, it goes, filtrate
for disclassification and dissemination through
the internet and media. Seven videotapes with
material recorded between 1942 to 1969, material
containing UFO incidents, recovery, and study
of extraterrestrial life forms. Due to the importance
of these documents, maintain the anonymity of
the sources. The video contains a sample edited
fragments of videotape 5, tape duration 180 minutes,
total recorded duration 1 .260 minutes, tape
5 edited fragments case 25 skinny bob 842 to
850, case 25 skinny bob 2736 to 2745, case 26
how to drive 5507 to 5512. So that's the video
if you want to go through it now. I'm watching
it now. After the weird text Ivan included in
the video, we're watching a gray alien presumably
being interviewed. Maybe he's putting together
a puzzle. Both equally valid. Maybe. We see him
from the side sitting, seemingly interacting
with something, potentially a puzzle, blinking,
gesturing. We see the same timestamp as with
the last video, which is artificially inserted.
I really don't understand what's happening in
the third video. What one's the third one? Where
he's being interviewed? Just like a weird, it
almost looks like a bacteria cell. The next scene
we see kind of a full body of Skinny Bob, who
we assume is Skinny Bob. The camera starts at
about the shins, I guess. It pans up, showing
long, crepey fingers. He's wearing a dark suit.
Ginormous, like, cranium, I guess, back of his
head. Maybe his brain's really big. Big, dark,
blinking eyes. And then we see that he's being
measured, maybe, with, you know, when you go
to the doc, you do that measuring thing. You
only do it at the doctor's office this way. It
almost looks like, actually, he's being, like,
they're doing the photos for a diet. Yeah. No,
he does, yeah. Yeah. They just don't do a side
profile. Back when they prescribed you like meth
to lose weight. Yeah. And man, that worked. It
looks like they're not doing it. An aside, it
worked. The side effects were just too bad. Yeah,
exactly. There's a movie about it. What's it
called? I can't remember. I won't think of that
one. Good movie though. And it almost looks like
they're measuring him wrong because I never got
measured like that. He's like at the tip of it.
when you should be with your head against the
wall, right? And he's just standing there with
the thingy touching his head. No, like I said,
and that's why I think it's more of like a diet
video to show what your body looks like once
you've lost some weight. Yeah, no, you're complete.
It's just for show, obviously, because they're
not doing it right. The last scene, as Taylor
was just commenting on, shows a mysterious circle.
To me, when I watched it, I was like, this is
boring. This means nothing to me. And I moved
on. SkinnyBob .info whoever ripped it apart.
Where I lost interest, they found so much more
than I ever could have imagined. It appears to
be like a shadow, like a meba thing. Like I was
the same thing. Like maybe it looks like a petri
dish or something. I don't know. I didn't know
what it was. Hold on a second to that thought
with the petri dish, whatever the hell the end
of the video is. Ivan declares explicitly what
we suspected with the wording in the video. The
material as presented on the channel is intended
for public distribution. He wants people to watch
these videos. He also mentions sources. By this,
he clearly means the original leakers of the
material. This means Ivan is a middleman. He
edited and published the videos he received from
someone else. Both important portions of this.
In the video, we see Skinny Bob in all his beautiful
glory. Let's talk about his physical going -ons.
The alien blinks in a slow, organic way, and
the eyelids fold naturally over large eyes, and
he actually blinks like a cat where the lower
lids close as well as the upper lids. Can I just
say something, and this is not, like, my overall
opinion? Yeah. But... The eyes are very heavily
shadowed in all of the videos. Yeah, so there
is on skinnybob .info, there was a lot of people
saying that he's wearing perhaps covers over
the eyes. However, they debunked very well on
the website that it is literally just light play
of shadows. Yes, and I think that's the whole
point, is the lighting is set up to give shadowing
over the eyes. Like, it seems pretty intentional.
It does appear that you can see reflection in
his eyes, showing that it wouldn't actually be
a cover over his eyes. Oh, yeah, and you can
see him blink. Like, that's pretty clear. Yeah,
it is shadow. So it does make them look a lot
bigger as well than they actually are. When you
see Skinny Bob, the only place where there's
shadow on his entire body is his friggin' eyes.
Yeah. That's interesting that that appears to
be, that would be intentional, wouldn't it? Yep,
because, no, maybe this is better to get into
in the second episode, but eyes are the hardest
part of a face to fake or build, so you're going
to want to draw attention away from them. however
you can. Interesting. Okay, maybe don't hold
back, I think. And especially if you're doing
a medical exam and documenting it, you're going
to want to see the entire figure. Now, I will
say in this one, this is not the medical portion
of it. But we just talked about it being like
them taking a front view, almost like a medical
exam. Documenting what they look like, yeah.
Incredibly easy to just shine a light from the
other side. That's true. But, you know, government
budgets of the day, they just couldn't afford
another light. It's true. Yeah. And their videos
were so shitty. Yeah. So, you do see subtle micro
-expressions within the alien. So, tiny mouth.
You can see his eyebrows moving around, which
give it a sense of life and is very hard to fake.
Now, you may see that Skinny Bob seems... maybe
a little bit jerky in a couple of his motions
when he's doing his puzzle. I think he's doing
a puzzle. He's probably just interacting with
somebody. But... Ivan's videos do have some frame
rate issues due to his fuckery. And we don't
know how aliens move. You don't think that this
was just filmed on a Super Nintendo and they
got too many enemies coming on screen at the
time? It could be. It could be. So, yeah, we
do see frame rate issues and stuff like that.
So it could be that he's fucking around with
the timing. His neck and shoulders look bony
and frail with a strap. strangely realistic proportion.
And the head moves slowly with slight pauses,
not jerky like animatronics. We can very briefly
see his mouth open and close as well. Skinny
Bob does appear to have black fingernails when
they're panning up. And if it's CGI, the animation
is unusually restrained and subtle. Most bakes
overdo the motion. And it's not puppetry or anything
like that. It's been debunked. Definitely not
a puppet. Another thing to point out is that
the gray aliens depicted in different scenes
appear to have individually shaped heads, which
is a strange feature. So does that mean we're
looking at two different aliens? At least three.
And I'm going to share my screen again and show
you this, as Ralph pointed out. Thanks, Ralph.
With a focus on the bones. Yeah, I was trying
to focus on it from the first video where he's
blinking to the second of his Jenny Craig before
video. I wasn't certain they were the same. Yeah,
you were right on picking that up, which is a
strange thing to fake to make so many and make
them have different characteristics. So yeah,
just an interesting thing you see here. There's
at least three different ones. As you pointed
out when watching the video, one of the more
obscure scenes named How to Drive. Remember I
told you to hold that thought while we're back.
The boring clip that shows something barely recognizable.
I wouldn't have given it a second thought because
like I said, I had no idea what the last scene
is. I don't know what's going on. I don't care.
But the people at SkinnyBob .info, they care.
And given the context, the title, and that we've
seen a UFO in the video before, the thing...
could be a control device for maneuvering an
alien spacecraft. A closer look suggests it being
some kind of glass plate with something casting
a shadow on it. Skinnybob .info seems to narrow
this down to having symbols on it. To me, this
is a seemingly meaningless thing. But how these
people break it down is actually insane. There
are apparently embossed symbols on a glass control
panel, potentially. And they link the writing
to a hometown connection saying the letters resemble
the Malmo plate. I have never even heard of this
before, which blows my mind. It may need... an
entire episode itself. So I'm going to talk to
you a little bit about the Momo plate. Sorry,
it's a first person video then? Like the aliens
holding it and driving something? I don't know.
Like we can't know what the hell it is. It could
be an instructional video. It could be first
person of the aliens driving. Like we don't exactly
know what it is, but they break it down from
the inference of the title of the video, How
to Drive. You have to assume it has something
to do with that yeah with driving yes and so
they break it down to a glass control piece and
however they've done it on skinnybob .info it
has symbols on it and they've matched these symbols
to this thing called the momo plate which I'm
going to talk to you a little bit about now which
came up in I don't even know I cannot find much
about the momo plate which is a little bit of
a red flag and I'll give you what I did find
and maybe we do an episode to follow up on it.
Here's what you need to know. In late 1967 in
Edmonton, Alberta, a man known only as L .R.
saw a silvery dish -shaped UFO about 500 meters
above the ground hovering silently over the frozen
North Saskatchewan River just 1 ,500 meters from
Riverside Golf Course. It emitted a soft violet
glow and buzzing noise like a transformer. That
is right down There's some red flags in this,
I'm going to admit it. Okay. And I couldn't find
much more than a Reddit post on it. But is skinnybob
.info refers back to this matching what was found
here. So I don't know what to make of this. Let's
just file it in. So skinnybob weirdly has a connection
to Edmonton. Yes. Potentially. Potentially. Now,
I will say, full disclosure, this one's giving
me red flags all over the place. I'm giving you
what I found. One post on Reddit. on this and
this is all i could find it i will i granted
i didn't spend long on it so i don't know the
ufo descended and landed on the riverside golf
course disappearing its lights The next morning,
November 5th, LR found a 5 meter circular indentation
and 10 centimeter holes left in the ground. Near
the edge of the circular landing site, about
2 meters from the ring, he spotted something
glinting in the grass. It was a thin copper plate
measuring 17 .3 by 2 .5 centimeters etched with
dozens of unknown symbols and geometric diagram
and sequences emphasizing 357 as well as cluster
-like patterns. I'm sorry, emphasizing, I don't
know what that means. Emphasizing 357. I don't
know either. I'm just reading it. Like 357, you
almost might be talking about prime numbers,
but I don't think so. I just assume he's emphasizing
those numbers. He takes it home, initially afraid
to involve police due to immigration status and
disbelief from authorities. This is all I'm going
into on this episode. Oh, man. Holy shit. Chelsea.
Yeah? I also just learned that everything going
on in the States is impacting UFO reporting.
How did you just learn that? We're in the middle
of an episode. No. But he said he was worried
about his immigration status, so he didn't want
to report anything. Oh, you did just learn it.
Okay. Yeah. I didn't get outside of what I was
telling you. No. You're right. So can you imagine
how many UFOs are missing out on right now? Well,
I know it could happen here. They're saying people
scared of their immigration status are not going
to the hospital right now. They're not going
to the hospital. They're not reporting crimes.
They're not reporting to courts. So I guess it
would affect UFO sightings. Yeah, absolutely.
Interesting thing to find out. So yeah, all I'm
going to say here, you can Google and find the
plate and I would be interested to reverse Google
search that. However, They do link whatever the
writing is on this thing on learning to drive
to the mall mall plate. That's what I found out
from it. So now we're going to take a look at
the third video. And the third video, Ivan0135
about alien and UFO documents. Posted the 8th
of May, 2011. The video description in response
to posts about the documents. And then he has
a link to the first and second videos there.
I really like that they kind of post these videos
adding to it as responses to like, oh, these
are probably fake. The video track shows text
messages from Ivan0135 addressing negative reactions
he has received about the previous two videos.
In the background is a handprint from a hand
with four fingers, a thumb and three fingers.
In the end, a final sentence fades in and out.
No audio on this one. Ivan0135 in response to
posts about the documents. The material is an
edited compilation of the documents that we have.
Your opinion and the conclusion you draw from
this material do not depend on us. Maybe you
are looking in the wrong direction. You are the
ones who reject this material. Sources will not
be revealed. Information that may involve an
agency or people will not be disclosed. However,
you are speculating and making conjectures about
its origins. The material does not belong to
any film, video game, television series, or other
commercial products that have been revealed to
date or which are currently in production. Wow,
so there's no actual video with this. It is all
just writing. So that's the video. The feedback
made him post a somewhat emotional response containing
a list of sentences clarifying basic facts about
the material, posting such videos on a social
media platform with the most heterogeneous audience
imaginable, everyone, and expecting something
else than disbelief and ridicule for editing
bits of allegedly leaked alien footage is incomprehensible.
He seems to be annoyed by people speculating
about the origin of the tapes. Curiously, He
was the one that put the insignia of the KGB
in front of the first clip and is now claiming
that there is not any reference which may link
the material to any organization that is working
today in the material exposed. He is either contradicting
himself here or added working today on purpose
to indicating that at least the modern KGB is
not involved anymore. Ivan's claims about the
material not belonging to any film, video game,
etc. holds to this day. So far, not a single
frame has shown up anywhere else. People occasionally
claim they saw segments of the video without
cropping before, but always fail to provide proof.
Hinting at further material being released if
certain conditions are met makes us wonder what
those could possibly be. Pandora's box has already
been opened, so why hold back the rest of the
material and participate in this game of secrecy?
The obvious reason would be that no additional
material exists. Let's not underestimate the
human factor. Assuming someone's sitting on a
treasure trove and deciding to slowly release
it to the public, expecting overwhelming reactions
and gratitude but receiving the opposite the
person now being upset decides to cancel disclosure
for the underserving public so without forming
an overwhelming opinion take because we have
one more video left we're going to look at it
the next and then we have some surprises what
are you thinking so far um To be frank with you,
I'm kind of underwhelmed. I see a lot of the
same techniques that I see in other faked footage
being presented here. And the fact that they're
added to, the fact that they're not leaking the
whole thing, and in fact when people are disputing
or talking about how this might be fake, they're
releasing more footage, leads me to believe that
this is not something that was all... He's a
little bit combative, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Now, with that, I will see you. This video footage
is being seen by the community still to this
day as something different from the other leaked
footage where they were thinking it might be
a release for a video and nothing ever followed
up with it. The effects are much different. They
cannot prove. that this is definitely a puppet
being used. This is definitely CGI being used.
It's all coming up as something that was shot
live and that has very authentic movements and
stuff like that to it right now. And basically
they're not being able to debunk it at this point.
So this is kind of what sets Skinny Bob aside.
Apart from the rest, yes. Apart from the other
ones that are clear hoaxes to this day. That's,
I think, a good place to leave it on part one
of the Skinny Bob episodes. Okay. And with that,
because we're going to talk a lot more about
this after this, I have been Taylor, here with
Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank
you all for listening. We'll see you next week.
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