WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.419 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.419 --> 00:00:15.980 us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:15.980 --> 00:00:19.519 to Journey to the Fringe, where, hey, I think 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:21.399 these are privileges that you guys just feel 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:23.960 entitled to at this point. And you know what? 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.120 No, I work hard on these. So maybe sometimes 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.920 you don't get these right here. Anyhow. Podcast 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.460 host Taylor Chelsea. Chelsea episode. There, 00:00:33.579 --> 00:00:36.460 go. Oh, okay. I'm starting to think that this 00:00:36.460 --> 00:00:38.500 is like the last episode and it's a one -way 00:00:38.500 --> 00:00:42.079 street. And we're giving so much. We're giving 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:47.079 them the gifts. Exactly. I'm so excited for this 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:51.420 episode. Taylor, if I were to ask you, who was 00:00:51.420 --> 00:00:54.600 Skinny Bob? Would you have any idea what I was 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.490 talking about? I would... If it was outside of, 00:00:58.549 --> 00:01:00.850 like, the podcast, I would think of, like, Bob, 00:01:00.909 --> 00:01:03.450 Bob. Who do we know who's Bob, like, in common? 00:01:03.670 --> 00:01:06.069 I don't think we have a Bob in common. Well, 00:01:06.129 --> 00:01:08.290 that's not true. I had a friend growing up whose 00:01:08.290 --> 00:01:10.670 dad's name was Bob, but I don't think I would, 00:01:10.730 --> 00:01:14.209 like, call him Skinny, so. But because it's a 00:01:14.209 --> 00:01:16.230 podcast about fringe topics, I would think you're 00:01:16.230 --> 00:01:18.989 talking about some type of cryptid or an alien, 00:01:19.209 --> 00:01:21.769 potentially. Because that kind of feels like 00:01:21.769 --> 00:01:23.569 one of those alien interviews, Skinny Bob. I 00:01:23.569 --> 00:01:26.799 like how you feel about this out. Okay. I'm going 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.500 to say I don't know. I don't know. But by that, 00:01:29.579 --> 00:01:32.159 I take away that your understanding of who Skinny 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.980 Bob was, was like mine when I was scrolling through 00:01:35.980 --> 00:01:39.319 YouTube one day and there's a video that popped 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.000 up about Skinny Bob and I was intrigued because 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.239 I didn't know who Skinny Bob was. Well, today... 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:47.819 And I'm just curious, was it the title Skinny 00:01:47.819 --> 00:01:50.870 Bob or the thumbnail? That drew you in. I have 00:01:50.870 --> 00:01:53.409 to know this. I can't remember because by this 00:01:53.409 --> 00:01:56.109 point it was like a month or two ago. But whatever 00:01:56.109 --> 00:01:58.930 it was, it was about Skinny Bob. So I would assume 00:01:58.930 --> 00:02:02.849 it was both that drew me in. Intrigued a little 00:02:02.849 --> 00:02:06.030 bit. And so I clicked on it and I was like, meh. 00:02:07.150 --> 00:02:10.250 But then here we are today. I'm going to skip 00:02:10.250 --> 00:02:13.229 the whole middle part. Here we are. And today 00:02:13.229 --> 00:02:16.469 where we're at now, we're getting a nice little 00:02:16.469 --> 00:02:19.270 essential things you need to know to talk about 00:02:19.270 --> 00:02:22.150 Skinny Bob at a dinner party or follow along 00:02:22.150 --> 00:02:25.349 if someone brings them up like right now. Taylor's 00:02:25.349 --> 00:02:28.830 really unprepared in this situation. So I'm going 00:02:28.830 --> 00:02:31.509 to give him the down low in case it ever comes 00:02:31.509 --> 00:02:34.509 up again. And you guys are just going to be brought 00:02:34.509 --> 00:02:37.469 into it not being caught off guard like Taylor. 00:02:38.189 --> 00:02:42.830 Skinny Bob, he's an entity on linked videotapes 00:02:42.830 --> 00:02:46.860 containing footage of a gray -like alien. It 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:51.219 continues to divide opinion within the UFO community. 00:02:51.340 --> 00:02:53.879 I know exactly what you're talking about now. 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.719 No definitive proof of its authenticity or fabrication. 00:02:58.340 --> 00:03:00.919 It's the interview with the gray, right? It's 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.699 not the one you're thinking of. Oh, okay. I don't 00:03:03.699 --> 00:03:06.280 think. We're going to take a look into the whole 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.659 thing. The video first appears on the internet 00:03:09.659 --> 00:03:14.259 in early May 2011, which is exactly vague enough 00:03:14.259 --> 00:03:18.240 for this introduction. The uploader claimed that 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:22.240 they were leaked KGB files of alien encounters 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:26.840 from the 1940s to 1960s. There and about. To 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.219 talk about Skinny Bob, first we have to talk 00:03:29.219 --> 00:03:32.719 about not Skinny Bob. Let's set the scene. It's 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.879 2011, which has a lot going on for UFOs that 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.360 I didn't actually know about what was going on 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.759 at the time. The UK drops 35 Ministry of Defense 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.939 UFO files. 8 ,500 pages released to the public 00:03:47.939 --> 00:03:51.319 of people who claim to have been abducted, pilots, 00:03:51.539 --> 00:03:55.060 reports, mass sightings, so on, all in regards 00:03:55.060 --> 00:03:59.199 to UFOs. Then the FBI launches the vaults, and 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.000 from there, the 1950 Hottel Memo gets released, 00:04:03.099 --> 00:04:06.680 sparking a crazy amount of UFO researcher interest. 00:04:07.389 --> 00:04:10.750 Guy Hoddle wrote to the director of the FBI saying 00:04:10.750 --> 00:04:13.509 that an investigator for the United States Air 00:04:13.509 --> 00:04:16.329 Force stated that three flying saucers had been 00:04:16.329 --> 00:04:19.430 recovered in New Mexico, described as being circular 00:04:19.430 --> 00:04:22.550 in shape with raised centers about 50 feet in 00:04:22.550 --> 00:04:25.850 diameter, each occupied by three bodies of human 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:28.529 shape but only three feet tall and dressed in 00:04:28.529 --> 00:04:32.149 metallic cloth of very fine texture. Each was 00:04:32.149 --> 00:04:35.209 bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout 00:04:35.209 --> 00:04:38.790 suits used by speed flyers and test pilots. Now, 00:04:38.829 --> 00:04:43.370 that's 2011 that the Hoddle memo was leaked. 00:04:43.509 --> 00:04:46.810 We've talked about a lot of stuff to do with 00:04:46.810 --> 00:04:50.069 like Roswell and when the bodies were recovered 00:04:50.069 --> 00:04:52.089 and stuff like that. So just something to keep 00:04:52.089 --> 00:04:55.230 in the back of your mind with that 2011 that 00:04:55.230 --> 00:04:59.199 was leaked in FBI files. They also said that 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.180 the saucers that were found in New Mexico were 00:05:02.180 --> 00:05:05.120 dropped due to very high powered radar set up 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.959 in that area. Believed that it was affected by 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.399 the navigation system of the saucers. So lots 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.199 of UFO stuff going down in the world in 2011. 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:18.339 And this is around the time of alien autopsy 00:05:18.339 --> 00:05:21.779 videos coming out. And other recovered alien 00:05:21.779 --> 00:05:25.560 videos posted out of Russia are floating around. 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.689 Lots of hoaxes. In March, the Pentagon admitted 00:05:29.689 --> 00:05:34.170 to having 2 ,400 high -classified sensitive files 00:05:34.170 --> 00:05:37.329 stolen from them. And directly preceding all 00:05:37.329 --> 00:05:40.129 of this, a new channel emerges on YouTube and 00:05:40.129 --> 00:05:43.589 uploads four strange videos, which is exactly 00:05:43.589 --> 00:05:45.930 the sentence you want to hear on the podcast. 00:05:46.269 --> 00:05:49.029 Video. But we're groundbreaking here at Journey 00:05:49.029 --> 00:05:52.639 to the Fringe and we don't give a... fuck we're 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:58.779 doing videos april 13 2011 user ivan0135 creates 00:05:58.779 --> 00:06:02.019 a profile that uploads a video the very same 00:06:02.019 --> 00:06:05.000 day according to the channel description the 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.660 creator is from russia and was born in 1969 he 00:06:09.660 --> 00:06:13.740 only ever posts the four videos ever on these 00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:16.720 videos you get a glimpse of what appears to be 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.300 real ufos and real evens Graze, if you prefer. 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.899 I don't know, I prefer even. I know, everyone 00:06:23.899 --> 00:06:27.540 prefers even. It implies they're from Serpo. 00:06:27.660 --> 00:06:30.759 Exactly. We're going to see that the uploaded 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.439 clips are small samples selectively taken from 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.600 a larger collection of video material. The original 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:41.120 footage is apparently spread across several physical 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:46.089 tapes. And Ivan provides a detailed list of tape 00:06:46.089 --> 00:06:49.449 numbers and timestamps for all the clips presented. 00:06:49.670 --> 00:06:53.149 You'll see it come together. Even embeds an animated 00:06:53.149 --> 00:06:55.930 timestamp into the first two videos to indicate 00:06:55.930 --> 00:06:58.449 where the original footage, the sequence was 00:06:58.449 --> 00:07:00.529 taken from. Here's what we're going to do, Taylor. 00:07:00.629 --> 00:07:03.509 We're going to pull up a video, watch it, give 00:07:03.509 --> 00:07:06.110 you the gist of the video. I'll read the YouTube 00:07:06.110 --> 00:07:09.009 description, tell you what's going on, get your 00:07:09.009 --> 00:07:11.449 thoughts on it. And we're going to take a little 00:07:11.449 --> 00:07:14.879 bit of a closer look at each video. I want you 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:18.339 to just take it all in and keep your opinions 00:07:18.339 --> 00:07:22.040 until the very end of the second episode. I just 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.620 want you to observe, take it all in. I'll give 00:07:24.620 --> 00:07:27.399 you all the information you need. So just remain 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:31.199 silent when we watch them? Like, let me know 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.120 what your general thoughts are, but I want you 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:37.720 to form an opinion as we go along and give me 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.920 your final opinion at the end, I think is what 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.100 I'm looking for. Okay. Don't form any thoughts 00:07:43.100 --> 00:07:46.920 immediately is what I'm trying to say based on 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:51.660 what you're watching. I used skinnybob .info 00:07:51.660 --> 00:07:55.839 which does an incredibly detailed analysis of 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:59.139 this whole thing. It's crazy the amount of work 00:07:59.139 --> 00:08:01.759 that these people have put into these videos. 00:08:02.490 --> 00:08:05.389 I'm going to go through only a couple points 00:08:05.389 --> 00:08:09.930 for each video. I'll do what I think is the most 00:08:09.930 --> 00:08:13.509 relevant. Not everything is going to be included 00:08:13.509 --> 00:08:17.290 because it is so detailed. We're talking a breakdown 00:08:17.290 --> 00:08:20.149 of possible locations, buildings, stabilized 00:08:20.149 --> 00:08:22.829 videos, measurements, background components, 00:08:23.250 --> 00:08:26.029 everything. I don't need to go through it in 00:08:26.029 --> 00:08:28.470 such detail. So if you're compelled by the power 00:08:28.470 --> 00:08:30.649 of Skinny Bob, you can check it out there. So 00:08:30.649 --> 00:08:35.610 without further ado, let me get Taylor this first 00:08:35.610 --> 00:08:40.070 video. You got it? Okay. You can see it? I can 00:08:40.070 --> 00:08:42.990 see it and I can hear it. Here we go. Oh, I have 00:08:42.990 --> 00:08:45.509 seen these videos. What we're starting with is 00:08:45.509 --> 00:08:49.090 a symbol of the KGB. Above and below have black 00:08:49.090 --> 00:08:51.909 bars, which we assume are censoring something. 00:08:52.409 --> 00:08:56.379 Words, probably. Moving on, we're seeing a saucer 00:08:56.379 --> 00:08:59.720 -shaped UFO hovering statically above a building. 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:02.799 Looks to be shot from the perspective of a moving 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.769 car, maybe a train. After watching this a million 00:09:06.769 --> 00:09:10.070 times, I do feel like it looks like they're filming 00:09:10.070 --> 00:09:12.830 it from a train, because you do see kind of like 00:09:12.830 --> 00:09:17.629 a train kind of thingy go by a window. Then the 00:09:17.629 --> 00:09:20.610 footage transitions to a closer look at the craft 00:09:20.610 --> 00:09:23.230 from the air, looking down on the craft like 00:09:23.230 --> 00:09:26.429 a plane, maybe, before depicting a scene of what 00:09:26.429 --> 00:09:29.649 appears to be a UFO crash, of what we assume 00:09:29.649 --> 00:09:32.929 is the same craft with UFO in the background. 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.679 smoke billowing from the UFO, and then one being 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.600 seen standing in the frame in bad lighting before 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:43.299 panning to the craft and another being laying 00:09:43.299 --> 00:09:47.080 on the ground, who is moving. You don't really 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.039 see him moving from how briefly we watched the 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.240 clip, but when you slow it down, he is moving. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.019 Then we see very briefly what appears to be an 00:09:56.019 --> 00:10:00.940 autopsy. The whole thing has a kind of old -timey 00:10:00.940 --> 00:10:04.139 security footage feel to it. And I think it's 00:10:04.139 --> 00:10:07.659 important to say old timey. You mean like pre 00:10:07.659 --> 00:10:12.720 1940s. Like it is super old. Yeah. So I don't 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.539 know. Did you catch the autopsy at the end? I 00:10:15.539 --> 00:10:18.159 kind of did the body laying on the bed. I didn't 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.059 see them performing an autopsy, but I kind of 00:10:20.059 --> 00:10:22.539 assumed it's on a bed for a purpose. I'm going 00:10:22.539 --> 00:10:25.200 to read the description in the YouTube video 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.779 now. It reads, leaked Air Force UFO footage, 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.700 confidential. Classified document 1942 to 1969. 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.279 Relevant information. The video contains a sample 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:43.340 edited fragments of tapes 01, 03, and 04. Tape 00:10:43.340 --> 00:10:47.440 duration, 180 minutes. Total recorded duration. 00:10:47.460 --> 00:10:50.299 Wait, sorry. Mm -hmm. There's a recorded 180 00:10:50.299 --> 00:10:54.360 minutes, and we got, what, 20 seconds? Yes. Okay. 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.399 That's what the description says. Total recorded 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:01.980 duration, 1 .260 minutes, which I assume is how 00:11:01.980 --> 00:11:05.100 long that YouTube video is. Yeah. So then it 00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:08.799 goes down to break it down. Tape one, case 07, 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:16.320 Tin Bird. 0841 to 0847. Tape 3, Case 15, Flying 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:23.639 Twin, 2711 to 2713. Case 15, Flying Twin, 2734 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:32.389 to 2739. Tape 4, Blue Boys, 4250 to 4251. Case 00:11:32.389 --> 00:11:38.590 23, Blue Boys, 4809 to 4816. Case 24, Blue Boys 00:11:38.590 --> 00:11:44.490 Meeting, 4330 to 4332. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting, 00:11:44.750 --> 00:11:50.710 5612 to 5614. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting, 5826 00:11:50.710 --> 00:11:54.509 to 5828. I can hear you watching the video. Yeah, 00:11:54.509 --> 00:11:57.289 sorry. I don't know why it's coming out of a 00:11:57.289 --> 00:12:00.549 different speaker. From this description, we 00:12:00.549 --> 00:12:02.990 can put together that the footage is compiled 00:12:02.990 --> 00:12:07.230 from four videos. The leaked material allegedly 00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:12.029 covers a span of 27 years, starting in 1942. 00:12:12.769 --> 00:12:16.490 Yeah, because for some reason, it has in the 00:12:16.490 --> 00:12:21.230 bottom of the video, almost like a 1980s camcorder, 00:12:21.409 --> 00:12:25.210 it has the date, time, year. And we'll talk about 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:29.210 that. So, from the title of these videos that 00:12:29.210 --> 00:12:32.149 they're talking about, it's thought that perhaps 00:12:32.149 --> 00:12:35.809 Blue Boys might be referring to Project Blue 00:12:35.809 --> 00:12:40.149 Book. Project Blue Book was created in 1952, 00:12:40.190 --> 00:12:42.990 but the material in Ivan's possession allegedly 00:12:42.990 --> 00:12:47.250 covers a span from 1942 to 1969. So, it is possible. 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:51.649 And is it Russia? So, they wouldn't really know 00:12:51.649 --> 00:12:56.100 about it. It's up for debate where it's from. 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.639 Who knows if this Ivan person is playing it that 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.519 way. The style of the house that we see in the 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.860 video. You're right. I assume because you keep 00:13:04.860 --> 00:13:07.179 saying Ivan, that it was Russian. And it does 00:13:07.179 --> 00:13:10.419 say. There are a lot of Russian ties to it. Now, 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.259 there are people who have broken down this video 00:13:13.259 --> 00:13:16.440 to think that the house is, in fact, in the United 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:19.759 States, just based on the style. Yeah, the first 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.620 shot I saw is like, oh yeah, this is American. 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.299 I just kind of thought from what I saw. But I 00:13:25.299 --> 00:13:26.919 was not allowed to give my opinions on this. 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.960 You can give your opinion. Just hold your full 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.889 opinions to form a full one. So it is possible 00:13:33.889 --> 00:13:36.690 that the Blue Boys and Blue Boys meeting scenes 00:13:36.690 --> 00:13:40.970 were recorded after 1952 if these are based on 00:13:40.970 --> 00:13:44.009 Project Blue Book. Let's talk about a few details 00:13:44.009 --> 00:13:46.570 that are found in the video. So first, you'll 00:13:46.570 --> 00:13:50.690 see here in my notes, this image. Okay. This 00:13:50.690 --> 00:13:53.950 image, which is the first image that we see in 00:13:53.950 --> 00:13:56.679 the video. Right, right. And that may be why 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.179 I assumed it was Russian. Because that's clearly 00:13:59.179 --> 00:14:01.519 Russian writing. Yes, but they block it out on 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.840 the video. Oh. So it turns out that this opening 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.960 still image was taken from a documentary, which 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:13.080 was titled The Secret KGB UFO Files, which was 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:17.919 released in 1998. That of which has been debunked. 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:21.480 And here's obviously the original image, which 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:26.240 translates to top secret KGB archive. We also 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.759 see that Ivan has tampered with the original 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.779 footage by applying various effects, such as 00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:37.419 the damaged film overlay and old projector sounds. 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.720 Those are not on the original film footage. I 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.419 kind of assumed that. Like, that didn't seem 00:14:43.419 --> 00:14:46.360 like it should be there. Yeah, so they are added 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.220 after the fact. Additionally, there is generally 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:53.539 a consensus that all the effects have been applied 00:14:53.539 --> 00:14:57.559 digitally to presumably clean underlying footage. 00:14:58.019 --> 00:15:02.059 Clean or make it look specific? Yes, both. I 00:15:02.059 --> 00:15:05.820 think by clean it means... As well, that time 00:15:05.820 --> 00:15:08.620 code that you pointed out running at the bottom 00:15:08.620 --> 00:15:12.220 has also been embedded digitally after the fact 00:15:12.220 --> 00:15:16.480 using the Microsoft font. Consoles, which was 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.120 released in 2006. There are a multitude of reasons 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.539 Ivan may have been compelled to use these effects, 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.539 including a cover -up of a hoax. Maybe Ivan thought 00:15:27.539 --> 00:15:31.159 it looked cooler this way. Maybe Ivan was doing 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.299 damage control for stolen top secret videos. 00:15:34.860 --> 00:15:39.759 Blackmail. Ambiguous Provence. Intentional obfuscation 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:44.039 of a layer of abstraction. And D, watermarking 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.399 attempt in case of multiple distinct copies circulating 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.639 among those in the know. So he added it so he 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.500 knew it was his? Potentially? Is that what they're 00:15:54.500 --> 00:15:56.759 kind of saying? Potentially many reasons he could 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.820 have added it, including basically what they're 00:15:59.820 --> 00:16:02.799 saying is, I mean, there's multiple reasons that 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.559 he's saying it could be covered up. Number one 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.289 is he think it looks cooler. to add those effects. 00:16:08.409 --> 00:16:11.350 It's 2011. Like, you're adding effects. It's 00:16:11.350 --> 00:16:13.710 gotta look flashy. People don't want it to be 00:16:13.710 --> 00:16:16.769 boring alien footage. Another one is damage control, 00:16:17.009 --> 00:16:20.470 which could be multiple reasons. Number one, 00:16:20.509 --> 00:16:23.590 so that you're covering up major identifying 00:16:23.590 --> 00:16:27.070 factors in a video if you have stolen this video 00:16:27.070 --> 00:16:29.509 and are leaking it as a whistleblower. You're 00:16:29.509 --> 00:16:32.269 covering for stolen top secret videos. There 00:16:32.269 --> 00:16:35.950 could be a million things. Blackmail. You stole 00:16:35.950 --> 00:16:38.419 it and are blackmailing someone. So you're putting 00:16:38.419 --> 00:16:40.980 it together without identifying features because 00:16:40.980 --> 00:16:43.799 you're blackmailing somebody. Dewatermarking 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:47.139 in an attempt of multiple distinct copies circulating 00:16:47.139 --> 00:16:50.659 among those in the know. So trying to cover up 00:16:50.659 --> 00:16:54.259 obvious watermarks in the video that show ownership 00:16:54.259 --> 00:16:56.519 or something like that. Oh, it's almost like 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.159 putting a redacted over like a trademark. Okay. 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.899 Exactly. Because this is a lot of video footage 00:17:03.899 --> 00:17:08.079 that apparently they have. It was what, 180 minutes? 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.000 Yeah. 180 minutes from which they posted a minute. 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.440 Yeah, exactly. Okay, so my next point is the 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:18.460 name Flying Twin. So Flying Twin is the part 00:17:18.460 --> 00:17:21.400 of the video where we're seen flying from above 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.210 the object. Okay. Which is a bit mysterious. 00:17:24.430 --> 00:17:28.109 It might refer to the situation in the sky where 00:17:28.109 --> 00:17:31.069 the aircraft is being accompanied by a UFO in 00:17:31.069 --> 00:17:34.569 close proximity. When pilots report UFO encounters, 00:17:34.910 --> 00:17:37.890 they often claim the UFO was mirroring their 00:17:37.890 --> 00:17:40.549 movements while maintaining a constant distance. 00:17:40.769 --> 00:17:43.549 Such maneuvering might have led to the title. 00:17:43.650 --> 00:17:47.589 My thought on the whole thing, Flying Twin to 00:17:47.589 --> 00:17:52.150 me says... twin. It's another UFO. Perhaps it's 00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:55.289 being shot from another UFO. That's what I get 00:17:55.289 --> 00:17:58.670 from it anyway. I didn't see that anywhere in 00:17:58.670 --> 00:18:00.589 anything that I read that that's potentially 00:18:00.589 --> 00:18:02.970 what it could be. However, that's what I take 00:18:02.970 --> 00:18:06.269 from Flying Twin. There's literally not enough 00:18:06.269 --> 00:18:09.690 footage to say the UFO is twinning it. Like, 00:18:09.809 --> 00:18:14.109 it is, what, five seconds long, maybe seven seconds 00:18:14.109 --> 00:18:16.410 at most? It's nothing to make any obvious. Of 00:18:16.410 --> 00:18:18.869 watching it? Yeah. And it seems to just be floating. 00:18:19.049 --> 00:18:21.750 Yeah. That's it. Which is a point towards the 00:18:21.750 --> 00:18:25.170 optification that they're referring to in that 00:18:25.170 --> 00:18:28.369 they're such short videos. You can't really grasp 00:18:28.369 --> 00:18:31.650 a whole lot of what's going on in these videos. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.180 And it doesn't appear to have a reason why it's 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:37.920 shortened. Like, it seems pretty clear if this 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.480 was natural video, it did go on longer. The only 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.920 real reason they can really say is because they 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:45.640 need to shorten it so people didn't know they 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:47.579 were the leakers or something like that. That's 00:18:47.579 --> 00:18:50.460 very true. It is very clearly a leak, I think, 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:53.839 is what we can say by the shortened videos. It's 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.019 very clearly not a whole video. I think we can 00:18:57.019 --> 00:18:58.819 all agree. Absolutely. I don't know if we can 00:18:58.819 --> 00:19:01.420 say it's very clearly a leak. To me, it's very. 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.039 clear that it's a leak especially when they're 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.640 putting that it's 180 minutes and we're getting 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:12.059 very very short glimpses without much to go back 00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:16.400 on but chelsea yeah the leaker and i say it with 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.420 like hand quotation marks which are great for 00:19:19.420 --> 00:19:22.200 use during a podcast yeah just like videos they 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:26.329 could just be like so i Yeah, I mean, I'm just 00:19:26.329 --> 00:19:28.509 saying that because, like, based on what I'm 00:19:28.509 --> 00:19:30.769 seeing, it seems kind of like that. But you're 00:19:30.769 --> 00:19:32.210 probably going to edit this part out just so 00:19:32.210 --> 00:19:34.529 that you can keep that. Yeah. Like, I'll get 00:19:34.529 --> 00:19:36.309 into the further details in the next episode. 00:19:36.970 --> 00:19:40.930 Based on lens flares of the alien and disposed 00:19:40.930 --> 00:19:43.750 portion of the video, you'll remember there's 00:19:43.750 --> 00:19:47.470 a UFO on fire, which you can't really tell from 00:19:47.470 --> 00:19:50.549 the brief glimpse of it, but there is smoke billowing 00:19:50.549 --> 00:19:52.630 from it. It is clearly a crash. Oh, I did not 00:19:52.630 --> 00:19:55.769 notice that one. Yeah. Based on a lens flare 00:19:55.769 --> 00:19:58.650 of the alien and disposed portion of the video, 00:19:58.690 --> 00:20:01.150 they were able to put together that the shakiness 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:05.390 of the video is artificial as a post -processing 00:20:05.390 --> 00:20:08.609 effect. also confirm that the camera was recording 00:20:08.609 --> 00:20:12.210 these live. Amazing what you can put together 00:20:12.210 --> 00:20:15.869 from a lens flare. And another fun fact about 00:20:15.869 --> 00:20:19.450 the alien and disposed portion of the clip, it's 00:20:19.450 --> 00:20:22.829 the only place where we see the feet of these 00:20:22.829 --> 00:20:26.579 beings. It's to be noted that the upload dates 00:20:26.579 --> 00:20:29.960 of the videos are important events in the history 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.200 of the Soviet Union and speculated that together 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.440 with the name Ivan and the KGB logo, the publishing 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:40.559 dates could have been chosen intentionally to 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.240 further imply a Russian origin. Maybe that was 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.900 a clear way of saying it in the beginning, that 00:20:46.900 --> 00:20:50.000 it was of a Russian origin. This could also be 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.420 implied on purpose. I also just wonder, and this 00:20:53.420 --> 00:20:56.019 is if it's somebody who's trying to fake something, 00:20:56.220 --> 00:20:58.599 if it's easier to say like, oh, it's Russian, 00:20:58.660 --> 00:21:00.759 so the technology's not as good, so it looks 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.900 crappier. Well, that same year, 2011, when this 00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:06.759 was leaked, there were a couple of Russian videos 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.599 that were leaked. One was a found alien body. 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.680 And it was later confirmed to be a hoax of chicken 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.660 skin and chicken bones stuffed with something. 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.819 I think I know the exact one you're talking about. 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.440 It's the tiny alien, right? Yeah, yeah, in the 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.259 snow. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to share my screen 00:21:25.259 --> 00:21:28.900 again. I have a bunch of clips for you to watch. 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:33.160 But this skinnybob .info did a great job. Last 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.240 portion of the video, Blue Boy's meeting is actually, 00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:40.109 can you see this? Yes. Yeah. Oh, and they stitched 00:21:40.109 --> 00:21:42.650 it all together. Okay. Yeah, they did a great 00:21:42.650 --> 00:21:45.630 job. So Blue Boy's meeting is actually pretty 00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:48.589 intriguing. Thank you SkinnyBob .info for the 00:21:48.589 --> 00:21:51.569 incredible in -depth research they did into this. 00:21:51.710 --> 00:21:54.349 They put all the clips together of the alien 00:21:54.349 --> 00:21:57.670 autopsy to create like a panoramic photo. So 00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:00.930 here you go. Just to take a look at that. Actually, 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:04.009 you know what? While I'm sharing my screen, can 00:22:04.009 --> 00:22:06.799 you see what I'm doing right now? See, they recreate. 00:22:07.059 --> 00:22:09.819 Just look at this. They recreate the house. Oh, 00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:11.980 yeah. They're trying to figure out where in America 00:22:11.980 --> 00:22:13.319 it is. Yeah, you could say, like, this seems 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.740 like it's kind of a distinct building. So you 00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:17.920 could say, like, hey, where was this film? I 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.160 actually want to show you while we're on the 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.900 panoramic film. I just realized I didn't put 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:25.799 it in here. Here is, can you see this? They actually 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.599 put together the panoramic film of the crash. 00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:31.599 Wow. Which I thought was pretty cool. That's 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.900 a great job. You only see a glimpse of it. Good 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:35.380 for them. But here, you see the whole thing. 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:38.220 whole thing together so yeah that's video one 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:41.640 and we're gonna go on to video two i'm just gonna 00:22:42.299 --> 00:22:46.400 give you this to watch in general. And I'm going 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.200 to just read my stuff while you watch this. Ah, 00:22:49.339 --> 00:22:51.740 I now understand the talking out loud before. 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:54.599 Oh, I have definitely seen this video. Titled 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:58.299 Alien Gray Extraterrestrial Zeta Reticuli UFO 00:22:58.299 --> 00:23:02.059 Leaked Footage. The 1st of May 2011. No description 00:23:02.059 --> 00:23:06.880 is provided by Ivan0135 for this video. The video 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:09.900 track starts with several paragraphs of text 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:12.799 providing background information. about the material 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:15.279 I'm gonna read it to you while you watch this 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.880 so let you listen to this okay I'm ahead so maybe 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.380 I'll just wait and catch be on the same page. 00:23:21.380 --> 00:23:24.019 Okay, that would bother me as well if I was trying 00:23:24.019 --> 00:23:26.240 to read something and someone was reading it. 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:29.859 Ten seconds behind, yes. So, yeah, it goes, filtrate 00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:33.099 for disclassification and dissemination through 00:23:33.099 --> 00:23:36.119 the internet and media. Seven videotapes with 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:40.460 material recorded between 1942 to 1969, material 00:23:40.460 --> 00:23:44.019 containing UFO incidents, recovery, and study 00:23:44.019 --> 00:23:47.200 of extraterrestrial life forms. Due to the importance 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:50.299 of these documents, maintain the anonymity of 00:23:50.299 --> 00:23:53.359 the sources. The video contains a sample edited 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:57.480 fragments of videotape 5, tape duration 180 minutes, 00:23:57.779 --> 00:24:01.700 total recorded duration 1 .260 minutes, tape 00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:06.440 5 edited fragments case 25 skinny bob 842 to 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:12.720 850, case 25 skinny bob 2736 to 2745, case 26 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.049 how to drive 5507 to 5512. So that's the video 00:24:18.049 --> 00:24:21.230 if you want to go through it now. I'm watching 00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:24.730 it now. After the weird text Ivan included in 00:24:24.730 --> 00:24:27.990 the video, we're watching a gray alien presumably 00:24:27.990 --> 00:24:31.569 being interviewed. Maybe he's putting together 00:24:31.569 --> 00:24:36.319 a puzzle. Both equally valid. Maybe. We see him 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.279 from the side sitting, seemingly interacting 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.559 with something, potentially a puzzle, blinking, 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:46.640 gesturing. We see the same timestamp as with 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.619 the last video, which is artificially inserted. 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:52.059 I really don't understand what's happening in 00:24:52.059 --> 00:24:53.880 the third video. What one's the third one? Where 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.839 he's being interviewed? Just like a weird, it 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.819 almost looks like a bacteria cell. The next scene 00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:03.440 we see kind of a full body of Skinny Bob, who 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.130 we assume is Skinny Bob. The camera starts at 00:25:06.130 --> 00:25:09.730 about the shins, I guess. It pans up, showing 00:25:09.730 --> 00:25:12.670 long, crepey fingers. He's wearing a dark suit. 00:25:13.549 --> 00:25:16.029 Ginormous, like, cranium, I guess, back of his 00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:18.829 head. Maybe his brain's really big. Big, dark, 00:25:18.890 --> 00:25:21.769 blinking eyes. And then we see that he's being 00:25:21.769 --> 00:25:23.869 measured, maybe, with, you know, when you go 00:25:23.869 --> 00:25:25.829 to the doc, you do that measuring thing. You 00:25:25.829 --> 00:25:28.089 only do it at the doctor's office this way. It 00:25:28.089 --> 00:25:29.789 almost looks like, actually, he's being, like, 00:25:29.789 --> 00:25:33.170 they're doing the photos for a diet. Yeah. No, 00:25:33.210 --> 00:25:36.049 he does, yeah. Yeah. They just don't do a side 00:25:36.049 --> 00:25:38.789 profile. Back when they prescribed you like meth 00:25:38.789 --> 00:25:41.750 to lose weight. Yeah. And man, that worked. It 00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:43.990 looks like they're not doing it. An aside, it 00:25:43.990 --> 00:25:47.410 worked. The side effects were just too bad. Yeah, 00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:50.750 exactly. There's a movie about it. What's it 00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:54.170 called? I can't remember. I won't think of that 00:25:54.170 --> 00:25:57.150 one. Good movie though. And it almost looks like 00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:00.130 they're measuring him wrong because I never got 00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:03.269 measured like that. He's like at the tip of it. 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.539 when you should be with your head against the 00:26:05.539 --> 00:26:08.559 wall, right? And he's just standing there with 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.380 the thingy touching his head. No, like I said, 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:12.559 and that's why I think it's more of like a diet 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.640 video to show what your body looks like once 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.220 you've lost some weight. Yeah, no, you're complete. 00:26:18.299 --> 00:26:20.279 It's just for show, obviously, because they're 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.779 not doing it right. The last scene, as Taylor 00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:27.000 was just commenting on, shows a mysterious circle. 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:29.400 To me, when I watched it, I was like, this is 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.299 boring. This means nothing to me. And I moved 00:26:32.299 --> 00:26:36.000 on. SkinnyBob .info whoever ripped it apart. 00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:40.390 Where I lost interest, they found so much more 00:26:40.390 --> 00:26:43.029 than I ever could have imagined. It appears to 00:26:43.029 --> 00:26:46.970 be like a shadow, like a meba thing. Like I was 00:26:46.970 --> 00:26:49.869 the same thing. Like maybe it looks like a petri 00:26:49.869 --> 00:26:51.930 dish or something. I don't know. I didn't know 00:26:51.930 --> 00:26:54.230 what it was. Hold on a second to that thought 00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:56.990 with the petri dish, whatever the hell the end 00:26:56.990 --> 00:27:00.730 of the video is. Ivan declares explicitly what 00:27:00.730 --> 00:27:03.990 we suspected with the wording in the video. The 00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:07.269 material as presented on the channel is intended 00:27:07.269 --> 00:27:11.210 for public distribution. He wants people to watch 00:27:11.210 --> 00:27:15.750 these videos. He also mentions sources. By this, 00:27:15.809 --> 00:27:19.250 he clearly means the original leakers of the 00:27:19.250 --> 00:27:22.809 material. This means Ivan is a middleman. He 00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:26.029 edited and published the videos he received from 00:27:26.029 --> 00:27:29.630 someone else. Both important portions of this. 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.319 In the video, we see Skinny Bob in all his beautiful 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.339 glory. Let's talk about his physical going -ons. 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.940 The alien blinks in a slow, organic way, and 00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:45.599 the eyelids fold naturally over large eyes, and 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.480 he actually blinks like a cat where the lower 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.680 lids close as well as the upper lids. Can I just 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.319 say something, and this is not, like, my overall 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.279 opinion? Yeah. But... The eyes are very heavily 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.700 shadowed in all of the videos. Yeah, so there 00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:06.000 is on skinnybob .info, there was a lot of people 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.059 saying that he's wearing perhaps covers over 00:28:09.059 --> 00:28:13.279 the eyes. However, they debunked very well on 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.779 the website that it is literally just light play 00:28:16.779 --> 00:28:19.740 of shadows. Yes, and I think that's the whole 00:28:19.740 --> 00:28:23.680 point, is the lighting is set up to give shadowing 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.200 over the eyes. Like, it seems pretty intentional. 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.920 It does appear that you can see reflection in 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.059 his eyes, showing that it wouldn't actually be 00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:35.599 a cover over his eyes. Oh, yeah, and you can 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.680 see him blink. Like, that's pretty clear. Yeah, 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.160 it is shadow. So it does make them look a lot 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.279 bigger as well than they actually are. When you 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.740 see Skinny Bob, the only place where there's 00:28:45.740 --> 00:28:48.799 shadow on his entire body is his friggin' eyes. 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.049 Yeah. That's interesting that that appears to 00:28:52.049 --> 00:28:54.390 be, that would be intentional, wouldn't it? Yep, 00:28:54.410 --> 00:28:57.410 because, no, maybe this is better to get into 00:28:57.410 --> 00:29:00.890 in the second episode, but eyes are the hardest 00:29:00.890 --> 00:29:04.230 part of a face to fake or build, so you're going 00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:06.099 to want to draw attention away from them. however 00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:08.839 you can. Interesting. Okay, maybe don't hold 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.740 back, I think. And especially if you're doing 00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:15.119 a medical exam and documenting it, you're going 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.000 to want to see the entire figure. Now, I will 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.599 say in this one, this is not the medical portion 00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.180 of it. But we just talked about it being like 00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:26.420 them taking a front view, almost like a medical 00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:28.599 exam. Documenting what they look like, yeah. 00:29:28.819 --> 00:29:31.519 Incredibly easy to just shine a light from the 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.940 other side. That's true. But, you know, government 00:29:33.940 --> 00:29:35.559 budgets of the day, they just couldn't afford 00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.240 another light. It's true. Yeah. And their videos 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:44.220 were so shitty. Yeah. So, you do see subtle micro 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:47.859 -expressions within the alien. So, tiny mouth. 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.000 You can see his eyebrows moving around, which 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.539 give it a sense of life and is very hard to fake. 00:29:54.740 --> 00:29:58.450 Now, you may see that Skinny Bob seems... maybe 00:29:58.450 --> 00:30:01.390 a little bit jerky in a couple of his motions 00:30:01.390 --> 00:30:03.930 when he's doing his puzzle. I think he's doing 00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:06.170 a puzzle. He's probably just interacting with 00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:10.400 somebody. But... Ivan's videos do have some frame 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.400 rate issues due to his fuckery. And we don't 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.059 know how aliens move. You don't think that this 00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:20.420 was just filmed on a Super Nintendo and they 00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:22.400 got too many enemies coming on screen at the 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.099 time? It could be. It could be. So, yeah, we 00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:28.700 do see frame rate issues and stuff like that. 00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:31.319 So it could be that he's fucking around with 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.779 the timing. His neck and shoulders look bony 00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:38.640 and frail with a strap. strangely realistic proportion. 00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:42.339 And the head moves slowly with slight pauses, 00:30:42.339 --> 00:30:46.279 not jerky like animatronics. We can very briefly 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.160 see his mouth open and close as well. Skinny 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.079 Bob does appear to have black fingernails when 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.619 they're panning up. And if it's CGI, the animation 00:30:55.619 --> 00:30:59.640 is unusually restrained and subtle. Most bakes 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.930 overdo the motion. And it's not puppetry or anything 00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:07.009 like that. It's been debunked. Definitely not 00:31:07.009 --> 00:31:10.210 a puppet. Another thing to point out is that 00:31:10.210 --> 00:31:13.450 the gray aliens depicted in different scenes 00:31:13.450 --> 00:31:17.069 appear to have individually shaped heads, which 00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:19.410 is a strange feature. So does that mean we're 00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:21.809 looking at two different aliens? At least three. 00:31:21.890 --> 00:31:26.210 And I'm going to share my screen again and show 00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:29.369 you this, as Ralph pointed out. Thanks, Ralph. 00:31:29.650 --> 00:31:32.670 With a focus on the bones. Yeah, I was trying 00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:35.109 to focus on it from the first video where he's 00:31:35.109 --> 00:31:38.269 blinking to the second of his Jenny Craig before 00:31:38.269 --> 00:31:43.029 video. I wasn't certain they were the same. Yeah, 00:31:43.029 --> 00:31:45.329 you were right on picking that up, which is a 00:31:45.329 --> 00:31:49.950 strange thing to fake to make so many and make 00:31:49.950 --> 00:31:52.970 them have different characteristics. So yeah, 00:31:53.069 --> 00:31:56.170 just an interesting thing you see here. There's 00:31:56.170 --> 00:31:59.690 at least three different ones. As you pointed 00:31:59.690 --> 00:32:02.329 out when watching the video, one of the more 00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:06.589 obscure scenes named How to Drive. Remember I 00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:09.130 told you to hold that thought while we're back. 00:32:09.269 --> 00:32:12.049 The boring clip that shows something barely recognizable. 00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:14.490 I wouldn't have given it a second thought because 00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:17.250 like I said, I had no idea what the last scene 00:32:17.250 --> 00:32:19.609 is. I don't know what's going on. I don't care. 00:32:19.769 --> 00:32:22.349 But the people at SkinnyBob .info, they care. 00:32:22.509 --> 00:32:25.069 And given the context, the title, and that we've 00:32:25.069 --> 00:32:27.950 seen a UFO in the video before, the thing... 00:32:28.089 --> 00:32:30.930 could be a control device for maneuvering an 00:32:30.930 --> 00:32:34.289 alien spacecraft. A closer look suggests it being 00:32:34.289 --> 00:32:37.089 some kind of glass plate with something casting 00:32:37.089 --> 00:32:40.819 a shadow on it. Skinnybob .info seems to narrow 00:32:40.819 --> 00:32:44.319 this down to having symbols on it. To me, this 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.960 is a seemingly meaningless thing. But how these 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.859 people break it down is actually insane. There 00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:53.559 are apparently embossed symbols on a glass control 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.839 panel, potentially. And they link the writing 00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.720 to a hometown connection saying the letters resemble 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.519 the Malmo plate. I have never even heard of this 00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.849 before, which blows my mind. It may need... an 00:33:07.849 --> 00:33:10.750 entire episode itself. So I'm going to talk to 00:33:10.750 --> 00:33:13.009 you a little bit about the Momo plate. Sorry, 00:33:13.089 --> 00:33:16.009 it's a first person video then? Like the aliens 00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:18.170 holding it and driving something? I don't know. 00:33:18.190 --> 00:33:21.609 Like we can't know what the hell it is. It could 00:33:21.609 --> 00:33:25.009 be an instructional video. It could be first 00:33:25.009 --> 00:33:28.869 person of the aliens driving. Like we don't exactly 00:33:28.869 --> 00:33:31.589 know what it is, but they break it down from 00:33:31.589 --> 00:33:34.890 the inference of the title of the video, How 00:33:34.890 --> 00:33:37.170 to Drive. You have to assume it has something 00:33:37.170 --> 00:33:40.069 to do with that yeah with driving yes and so 00:33:40.069 --> 00:33:43.609 they break it down to a glass control piece and 00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:47.190 however they've done it on skinnybob .info it 00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:50.430 has symbols on it and they've matched these symbols 00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:54.450 to this thing called the momo plate which I'm 00:33:54.450 --> 00:33:56.569 going to talk to you a little bit about now which 00:33:56.569 --> 00:34:01.410 came up in I don't even know I cannot find much 00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:04.130 about the momo plate which is a little bit of 00:34:04.130 --> 00:34:07.519 a red flag and I'll give you what I did find 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.380 and maybe we do an episode to follow up on it. 00:34:10.460 --> 00:34:13.900 Here's what you need to know. In late 1967 in 00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:17.599 Edmonton, Alberta, a man known only as L .R. 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.559 saw a silvery dish -shaped UFO about 500 meters 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.579 above the ground hovering silently over the frozen 00:34:24.579 --> 00:34:28.400 North Saskatchewan River just 1 ,500 meters from 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.619 Riverside Golf Course. It emitted a soft violet 00:34:31.619 --> 00:34:34.579 glow and buzzing noise like a transformer. That 00:34:34.579 --> 00:34:48.500 is right down There's some red flags in this, 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.710 I'm going to admit it. Okay. And I couldn't find 00:34:51.710 --> 00:34:55.690 much more than a Reddit post on it. But is skinnybob 00:34:55.690 --> 00:34:59.090 .info refers back to this matching what was found 00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:02.929 here. So I don't know what to make of this. Let's 00:35:02.929 --> 00:35:05.449 just file it in. So skinnybob weirdly has a connection 00:35:05.449 --> 00:35:10.289 to Edmonton. Yes. Potentially. Potentially. Now, 00:35:10.429 --> 00:35:14.170 I will say, full disclosure, this one's giving 00:35:14.170 --> 00:35:16.789 me red flags all over the place. I'm giving you 00:35:16.789 --> 00:35:20.190 what I found. One post on Reddit. on this and 00:35:20.190 --> 00:35:23.510 this is all i could find it i will i granted 00:35:23.510 --> 00:35:27.809 i didn't spend long on it so i don't know the 00:35:27.809 --> 00:35:31.170 ufo descended and landed on the riverside golf 00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:35.800 course disappearing its lights The next morning, 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:40.460 November 5th, LR found a 5 meter circular indentation 00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:43.800 and 10 centimeter holes left in the ground. Near 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.219 the edge of the circular landing site, about 00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:48.559 2 meters from the ring, he spotted something 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.980 glinting in the grass. It was a thin copper plate 00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:56.539 measuring 17 .3 by 2 .5 centimeters etched with 00:35:56.539 --> 00:35:59.699 dozens of unknown symbols and geometric diagram 00:35:59.699 --> 00:36:04.889 and sequences emphasizing 357 as well as cluster 00:36:04.889 --> 00:36:07.650 -like patterns. I'm sorry, emphasizing, I don't 00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:10.030 know what that means. Emphasizing 357. I don't 00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:12.309 know either. I'm just reading it. Like 357, you 00:36:12.309 --> 00:36:14.250 almost might be talking about prime numbers, 00:36:14.389 --> 00:36:15.489 but I don't think so. I just assume he's emphasizing 00:36:15.489 --> 00:36:19.289 those numbers. He takes it home, initially afraid 00:36:19.289 --> 00:36:22.769 to involve police due to immigration status and 00:36:22.769 --> 00:36:26.079 disbelief from authorities. This is all I'm going 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.340 into on this episode. Oh, man. Holy shit. Chelsea. 00:36:29.539 --> 00:36:31.860 Yeah? I also just learned that everything going 00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:35.019 on in the States is impacting UFO reporting. 00:36:35.179 --> 00:36:37.019 How did you just learn that? We're in the middle 00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:41.579 of an episode. No. But he said he was worried 00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:43.679 about his immigration status, so he didn't want 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.579 to report anything. Oh, you did just learn it. 00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:48.280 Okay. Yeah. I didn't get outside of what I was 00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:52.750 telling you. No. You're right. So can you imagine 00:36:52.750 --> 00:36:55.050 how many UFOs are missing out on right now? Well, 00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:58.329 I know it could happen here. They're saying people 00:36:58.329 --> 00:37:00.690 scared of their immigration status are not going 00:37:00.690 --> 00:37:02.550 to the hospital right now. They're not going 00:37:02.550 --> 00:37:04.110 to the hospital. They're not reporting crimes. 00:37:04.389 --> 00:37:06.809 They're not reporting to courts. So I guess it 00:37:06.809 --> 00:37:09.570 would affect UFO sightings. Yeah, absolutely. 00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:13.690 Interesting thing to find out. So yeah, all I'm 00:37:13.690 --> 00:37:15.670 going to say here, you can Google and find the 00:37:15.670 --> 00:37:18.809 plate and I would be interested to reverse Google 00:37:18.809 --> 00:37:22.750 search that. However, They do link whatever the 00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:25.690 writing is on this thing on learning to drive 00:37:25.690 --> 00:37:28.710 to the mall mall plate. That's what I found out 00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:30.570 from it. So now we're going to take a look at 00:37:30.570 --> 00:37:34.769 the third video. And the third video, Ivan0135 00:37:34.769 --> 00:37:38.949 about alien and UFO documents. Posted the 8th 00:37:38.949 --> 00:37:42.800 of May, 2011. The video description in response 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.860 to posts about the documents. And then he has 00:37:45.860 --> 00:37:48.360 a link to the first and second videos there. 00:37:48.460 --> 00:37:52.019 I really like that they kind of post these videos 00:37:52.019 --> 00:37:54.900 adding to it as responses to like, oh, these 00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:59.489 are probably fake. The video track shows text 00:37:59.489 --> 00:38:04.090 messages from Ivan0135 addressing negative reactions 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:07.070 he has received about the previous two videos. 00:38:07.389 --> 00:38:10.550 In the background is a handprint from a hand 00:38:10.550 --> 00:38:13.530 with four fingers, a thumb and three fingers. 00:38:13.829 --> 00:38:17.570 In the end, a final sentence fades in and out. 00:38:17.730 --> 00:38:22.829 No audio on this one. Ivan0135 in response to 00:38:22.829 --> 00:38:25.969 posts about the documents. The material is an 00:38:25.969 --> 00:38:29.030 edited compilation of the documents that we have. 00:38:29.329 --> 00:38:31.949 Your opinion and the conclusion you draw from 00:38:31.949 --> 00:38:34.849 this material do not depend on us. Maybe you 00:38:34.849 --> 00:38:37.369 are looking in the wrong direction. You are the 00:38:37.369 --> 00:38:40.489 ones who reject this material. Sources will not 00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:43.510 be revealed. Information that may involve an 00:38:43.510 --> 00:38:54.090 agency or people will not be disclosed. However, 00:38:54.989 --> 00:38:58.170 you are speculating and making conjectures about 00:38:58.170 --> 00:39:01.309 its origins. The material does not belong to 00:39:01.309 --> 00:39:05.030 any film, video game, television series, or other 00:39:05.030 --> 00:39:07.269 commercial products that have been revealed to 00:39:07.269 --> 00:39:09.909 date or which are currently in production. Wow, 00:39:09.989 --> 00:39:12.110 so there's no actual video with this. It is all 00:39:12.110 --> 00:39:32.380 just writing. So that's the video. The feedback 00:39:32.380 --> 00:39:35.420 made him post a somewhat emotional response containing 00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:38.739 a list of sentences clarifying basic facts about 00:39:38.739 --> 00:39:41.659 the material, posting such videos on a social 00:39:41.659 --> 00:39:45.280 media platform with the most heterogeneous audience 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.079 imaginable, everyone, and expecting something 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:51.039 else than disbelief and ridicule for editing 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.179 bits of allegedly leaked alien footage is incomprehensible. 00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.139 He seems to be annoyed by people speculating 00:39:58.139 --> 00:40:01.309 about the origin of the tapes. Curiously, He 00:40:01.309 --> 00:40:03.829 was the one that put the insignia of the KGB 00:40:03.829 --> 00:40:06.590 in front of the first clip and is now claiming 00:40:06.590 --> 00:40:09.889 that there is not any reference which may link 00:40:09.889 --> 00:40:12.530 the material to any organization that is working 00:40:12.530 --> 00:40:16.369 today in the material exposed. He is either contradicting 00:40:16.369 --> 00:40:20.050 himself here or added working today on purpose 00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:23.090 to indicating that at least the modern KGB is 00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:25.869 not involved anymore. Ivan's claims about the 00:40:25.869 --> 00:40:28.809 material not belonging to any film, video game, 00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:32.690 etc. holds to this day. So far, not a single 00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:35.889 frame has shown up anywhere else. People occasionally 00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:38.469 claim they saw segments of the video without 00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:41.730 cropping before, but always fail to provide proof. 00:40:42.219 --> 00:40:44.579 Hinting at further material being released if 00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:47.480 certain conditions are met makes us wonder what 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.719 those could possibly be. Pandora's box has already 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.159 been opened, so why hold back the rest of the 00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.920 material and participate in this game of secrecy? 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.880 The obvious reason would be that no additional 00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:03.179 material exists. Let's not underestimate the 00:41:03.179 --> 00:41:05.820 human factor. Assuming someone's sitting on a 00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:08.699 treasure trove and deciding to slowly release 00:41:08.699 --> 00:41:12.170 it to the public, expecting overwhelming reactions 00:41:12.170 --> 00:41:14.849 and gratitude but receiving the opposite the 00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:17.750 person now being upset decides to cancel disclosure 00:41:17.750 --> 00:41:21.730 for the underserving public so without forming 00:41:21.730 --> 00:41:25.010 an overwhelming opinion take because we have 00:41:25.010 --> 00:41:27.190 one more video left we're going to look at it 00:41:27.190 --> 00:41:30.369 the next and then we have some surprises what 00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:35.900 are you thinking so far um To be frank with you, 00:41:36.019 --> 00:41:39.139 I'm kind of underwhelmed. I see a lot of the 00:41:39.139 --> 00:41:42.719 same techniques that I see in other faked footage 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.940 being presented here. And the fact that they're 00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.059 added to, the fact that they're not leaking the 00:41:50.059 --> 00:41:53.039 whole thing, and in fact when people are disputing 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.519 or talking about how this might be fake, they're 00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.719 releasing more footage, leads me to believe that 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.059 this is not something that was all... He's a 00:42:00.059 --> 00:42:02.929 little bit combative, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. 00:42:03.369 --> 00:42:06.989 Now, with that, I will see you. This video footage 00:42:06.989 --> 00:42:11.070 is being seen by the community still to this 00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:13.949 day as something different from the other leaked 00:42:13.949 --> 00:42:16.710 footage where they were thinking it might be 00:42:16.710 --> 00:42:19.989 a release for a video and nothing ever followed 00:42:19.989 --> 00:42:23.309 up with it. The effects are much different. They 00:42:23.309 --> 00:42:27.139 cannot prove. that this is definitely a puppet 00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:31.320 being used. This is definitely CGI being used. 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.059 It's all coming up as something that was shot 00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:39.000 live and that has very authentic movements and 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.920 stuff like that to it right now. And basically 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.960 they're not being able to debunk it at this point. 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.219 So this is kind of what sets Skinny Bob aside. 00:42:50.099 --> 00:42:53.000 Apart from the rest, yes. Apart from the other 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.079 ones that are clear hoaxes to this day. That's, 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.059 I think, a good place to leave it on part one 00:43:00.059 --> 00:43:03.940 of the Skinny Bob episodes. Okay. And with that, 00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:05.480 because we're going to talk a lot more about 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.900 this after this, I have been Taylor, here with 00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:09.840 Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.239 you all for listening. We'll see you next week. 00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.920 Goodbye. Thank you for listening to Journey to 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.300 the Fringe. If you have liked what you have listened 00:43:17.300 --> 00:43:21.380 to, please like, share, subscribe, or follow 00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:24.019 depending on what. venue you are listening to 00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:26.539 us through. Also, please, if possible, leave 00:43:26.539 --> 00:43:29.920 a five -star review as that really helps us in 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.599 the algorithms. Should you wish to interact with 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.980 us, please check us out on your social media 00:43:34.980 --> 00:43:38.099 of choice. 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