00:00:00You going to hit us with the truth a little bit but it's a very lame truth bomb as many of our listeners. I'm sure and you I have been a little bit bored of things to do in this world that we live in with very few things to do with interaction. With people might I suggest an activity to those of you out there yourself included this weekend and it is picking up garbage on the side of the road. It is outside. You get the sun, you get your fresh air, you get your exercise and there is no chance of anybody coming near you. Nothing. Now. I remember you do it is an annual thing in my mind, because every time I start getting on my bike to get out there, I see how terrible we are out of this planet, go anywhere, there's garbage all over the place and pick it up, and throw it in the garbage downstairs, playing with his little friend. And we went downstairs. Tell him to come.<br>00:00:59Man, and they're picking up garbage. I guess they got the idea from school. I was so proud of them. More often, not just on Earth Day. I kind of feel like you know, what, just be the change you want. You see the garbage. We know it's terrible and especially this is a big thing. Kalona is now going to run a test on its water for how much microplastic is in the lake. Yeah, which is first and foremost like something that they don't want to know because if you know, then you have to do something about it. So meeting somebody said they wanted a test done of the air quality and the city council literally said, okay, so we get that test done and it comes back bad then was<br>00:01:47Because if you know something sucks, you have to fix it when you see that and you see all the garbage in the ditches, all that garbage in the ditches and zup in your body of water. It just does. Yeah, be the change. You want out into the ocean? Be the change you want. It's more fun accident. You would expect especially if you got a good podcast on like Journey To The Fringe. Yeah. And very satisfying. I would imagine seeing how much did you pick up your bags and kind of disgusting but what exactly we're not going to pressure you into anything. You do what you want and we are going to start this show.<br>00:02:35From The Unexplained to the mundane. Come join us on our journey to The Fringe.<br>00:02:46Welcome back to Journey To The Fringe, the only podcast with a 17-minute guarantee. That's right. If we do not get our information into your lovely years of in 17 minutes, it's free. Now that out of the way we are continuing on with our Mysterious Island portion of our Deep dive this time. We're getting real with it. These are islands that have stories about them myths, weird folklore, but most importantly they actually do exist this time around.<br>00:03:24Chelsea has gone and more paranormal way with this. I have something I've stumbled across a couple years ago and I really want to talk about it. But let's Chelsea. I'll let you start this off over to Europe for hovick, Leah on island. I've heard this announced a few ways. I'm going with the way I'm comfortable, which is more than likely the wrong way. That is Leah. This is an island off of Venice and it has a fairly long important history, which I was surprised by, it's a small Island located between Venice island and Lido island in the Venetian Lagoon. There is a canal that divides the island into two separate parts. That island is super old by my standards. Anyhow, and Canada standards and there's a saying that I love about this in North America hundred years is a long time and in Europe, a hundred km is a far away.<br>00:04:24And being populated in 1421 and in reading through the history, I did think to myself. Why of all places would someone want to settle on a small island like this? As I would think about Venice. I mean, it is a beautiful island, but doesn't it seem it's a beautiful island. Now, would you want to settle there? Probably not the Netherlands. They're both kind of half underwater and they've had to like damn up so much just asked me about the water in the history of this island. The answer is that the residents of Mainland Italy, fled as refugees after Barbarian the storm, the apennine peninsula in the 5th Century. I kind of did some Googling on what a barbarian wasn't. I had no idea that a barbarian. I love barbarians citizen of Rome and did not Latin. So it was any<br>00:05:24Which I guess there are a lot of Barbarians mostly Germanic tribes, but the whole reason is because when they heard people speak from Germanic tribes, they thought they really sounded. Like they're saying Bar Bar Bar Bar Bar cuz that's apparently a lot of the like language that they use, a lot of tests. Also in these days were formed on Barber monkeys, which I forget what we call them now, but that is basically saying like these are uncivilized humans and I want to know what that is. It's a recent picture of a monkey with a red biry that comes to do good. I'm just going to keep reading so I'm learning lots of History here. I didn't know that's what a barbarian is. So then another wave of essentially refugees came in the eighth Century from Padua and SD which were destroyed by the Lombard tribes. Lots of people coming in.<br>00:06:24Fleeing as refugees from Northern Italy onto this island and these new residents also, settled numerous other islands in the Venetian Lagoon, essentially, to get away from war, is being fought the reasons for the popularity of Bequia, check out the population steadily growing population and importance. I was even given a governing body for the area. So it was actually a fairly important islands in the early times. And wasn't, there reminds me a lot of several groups in North America that basically moved because they were wanted in certain areas and I said, well no one would surely ever want to live in this area. One of them being the Cajuns into Louisiana. And the other one is the Mormons into Utah. Both of them are going into. Like, yeah, they're both going to places that. No one would ever want to live and then just populations, eventually reach them.<br>00:07:24I was going to school. Where Acadian? How did we get to stay when everyone keep the Cadian and Caden really are the same word just slightly differently, even on the island itself of Poveglia. And in 1379 after Venice, came under attack from the Juno one Fleet, and the Poveglia hands were moved to judika and island in the Venetian Lagoon, in 1527. The Dodge offered the island to the camel Deliz monks who refused. They didn't want the island and turning down a free Island. I'm not sure why. It didn't say, why they turned it down, because at this point, it doesn't have any of the has no amenities.<br>00:08:24Yeah, I guess so, essentially from 1645 on the Venetian, government built five, octagon, all forts to protect and control the entrances of the Lagoon. And the Poveglia octagon is one of four that still stands. Then in 1776 that Island comes under the jurisdiction of the public health office being used as a checkpoint for goods and people coming and leaving Venice by ship, which is a fairly important part in its history in 1793. There were several cases of the plague on ship. So, at this point, it was transformed into a temporary confinement station for victims of the plague in the 1640s. So that is a 1776 research. It's still bonded, play. The Black Death, went through Europe, a lot. So, and that's where I kind of found some things because Black Death goes back way further than<br>00:09:241776, I found out and I always find it, interesting. Cuz there are a lot of legs that end up being syphilis, which I find when that plague goes through towns. It gets really interesting is what a lot of people do is bring in the Army, to stop it. And the Army is young males, who don't exactly stop syphilis. So I'm just looking at clegg's or Europe. Honest, we could do entire episode from that just because it is really fun to look at. I don't know if we be considered Bridge, though, could be. I mean, that's not a well-known fact. If I Google it, it comes up is 1346. That's its Cola is really well with the fall of the Mongolian Empire. And that's because they had set up such a very good network of trade that could be done, instantaneous by their standards and it came from the Yellow River base. Nyanza River because of that, it basically spread all the way from China.<br>00:10:24All the way over into Europe where the Mongolian Empire ended right around Germany and the continued spreading there and killed a third of Europe. So Black Death killed more people than anything. It's like the world's deadliest. Yes, but it has to do with the time that coincided with. Yes, from what I can tell this is bubonic plague Black Death is one thing to quickly add to that the Bubonic plague still does happen. Every now and then in our modern world dad leave yet a couple years ago in Madagascar. They had a few cases. Yeah. It's just that it is incredibly treatable.<br>00:11:04It's pretty disgusting to. I would not recommend Googling it. It's like it affects the lymph nodes and they turned black. And then they can, like, explode there a movie called the black black, and it's not good to Google. Don't do it. Yeah. So yeah, this is the time frame that I have for, when they start quarantining ships from the plague. However, it doesn't correspond with that original Black Death of 1300. So not sure I can't really confirm that one. So 1793, that's when some victims were coming in on ships. And so, under Napoleon Bonaparte. Actually, he makes it a permanent picture for ships to quarantine here before their entry into Venice Napoleon.<br>00:12:04So comes in around this time. This is where the term quarantine comes from. Correct? You can't come in for 40 days, that would. Sorry. I need to look this morning because I did read that somebody had a diary of quarantine Easter from a ship comes from the mid-seventeenth century. And it's Italian for 40 days. Would be literally where the first quarantine has happened where your ship pass it out. Once it gets there for 40 days, to show that everybody's healthy on board. This is where they are first doing it. So Napoleon comes in Napoleon, destroyed one of the churches that was built on the island and converted, the bell tower into a lighthouse, and he also use the island to store weapons and using it as an Armory for French troops. 1793 to 1814 was officially the years that Island was you.<br>00:13:04Is the quarantine station for the plague. After several cases arriving from the ship's Napoleon was quarantining the ship 1793. This is officially being used for people to go corn tortillas. Basically, if you had, if you had this disease, you are sanctioned to go over there and if you survived, you could come back, but if you don't, I don't know how many people actually driving back from the store. And this is unfortunately, a very common practice throughout the world for the next hundred and fifty years or so. I'm sure most people have heard that quietly. Some of the islands around Hawaii or word quarantine stations for leprosy. All yes. I have heard that I actually have a ceremonial coffin burial with your family before you were sent off to the leper colony. Are you would stand in this coffin and they would put dirt on you because they need to accept that your dad and you would leave and<br>00:14:04I'm sure you would die on this leper colony Island. I mean, what are the odds of coming back? If you're being sent to receive basically no chance but like the plague plague there is a chance of surviving the Black Death smallpox Island aquariums on Stanley Park, Stanley Park, the island. There was a small Fox colony in the late eighteen hundreds or early nineteen-hundreds where if you got smallpox, it would send you there to die. Interesting. So this is very much do not an isolated case of an island where people were sent to, to just kind of died cuz they had a plague. I mean, islands are a popular choice for your that kind of. Yeah, and if you notice the countries that are doing the best in covid, 10 to be island, countries are other ones that I would argue that are doing well else because they have a community-based approach to things but that's too<br>00:15:04Sweetly outside of what we're talking about. So we're going to leave that there have been dragged from their homes under the slightest suspicion of the Bubonic plague. It was the Bubonic plague, good loaded in this could be like anyone who had a vendetta for somebody. You didn't like your neighbors, just kidding. But I mean wall that could be the truth. But if anyone suspected you of being sick, he would be off the ship to this island. I would imagine this area would have said in somewhat when they're saying these things. I mean you look at everything now, this is killing way more people than covid deaths. So<br>00:15:53I don't know about that, but I don't have the world's population. So then in 1922, the existing buildings were converted into an asylum for the mentally ill, and then so this is after the plague obviously. So 1922 after it's been used. And then with as a quarantine Island for the sick of the plagues, the existing buildings were converted into an asylum for the mentally ill and then used as the nursing home, / long-term care, facility until the Island. Full closure in 1968. They say that they close the mental disorder Island before having a nurse, but there is evidence that it wouldn't coinciding at the same. And by the way, I do feel, we should be using the term sanitarium both because it's a fun word to say and it it's apt in the situation.<br>00:16:53Yeah, I probably won't remember that because I specifically Road Esiason. Okay, people sent here, wouldn't be considered a low by our standards today. Obviously mental health has come a long way in most recent years reason. Somebody might have been sent to that. What was the word again? Sanitarium, edit Arium, include depression, homosexuality, bipolar disorder, Etc. Basically anyone considered not normal by Society at the time, not just a practice that is prevalent in Europe or Asia Italy at the sandwiches. Dennis Bono. JFK is probably president about the time, is it closed? JFK had a sister who was lobotomized because she was quote unquote uppity.<br>00:17:53Pro-feminist, I guess in the sixties. She was sorry, wouldn't have happened in the sixties. What happened in the 50s, but she was lobotomized. No particular, mental issue. And I honestly don't know if lobotomies still take place today or not, but they were handed out like a party favors back in the fifties and previous and then any asylums and hospitals of the time that isolation and secrecy of these establishments allow doctors to perform horrific. Medical procedure is probably more along the lines of torture for the medical procedure at these days off and performed without anesthetic, which the lobotomy was included and I wasn't listening to a podcast actually the other day about someone who gave lobotomies and it would have all the time in might've even been the person that came up with the Laboy me and the person that killed with it was just a psychopath and they often use no anesthetic or<br>00:18:53Anything like that, they just went in like a steel rod and beef are there wouldn't be any rain sensors on the brain. So if you're looking at it simply from that point of view, it wouldn't be something that hurts at least from a scientific point of view. I have no idea if it hurts. I don't know if they ever bothered to ask somebody who added lobotomy done, if it hurts the person who had received a lobotomy. No, at the point after it's been done to have enough, telling you, I don't know people who've had lobotomies. Done do still have cognitive function. They can still interact. They canceled for the most part. They're their personality changes significantly their IQ. Doesn't drop to like invalid levels. I mean, you are taking, but it's it's a very specific part of the brain and it's basically what they considered the part that had anger in it. Is that true?<br>00:19:53So anyhow, now it stinks being can of humans, and it's illegal to visit that is Poveglia. And since it was closed, there were plans to use the island for tourism purposes. So one time at one time but Italy was broke. And they did come up with the idea to auction it off for a 99-year lease. And it was to remain state property. And then later there are many plans to develop, restaurants, Parts, hostels. And however, there was never any traction and is just remain to be lonely. The 99-year lease. Somebody did get it. It was for like 400 and some thousand Euros that they did that. Yeah, and then it ended up. It was somebody who ran for mayor of Venice that Italy said no after he put forth his plans because they didn't like what he was doing with it, and he was in the process of snow.<br>00:20:53Bring them and anyhow, he ended up backing out once he started getting into the politics and ran for, I think he was mayor, it was something political and he did end up getting elected never pursuing. The proper sources went for the next best island. There was some things that they wanted to develop just nothing ever went through and there's I mean, there's just Shady accounts of what was going on on the island. Generally. It's thought that it's haunted locals. Won't talk about it for fear that it brings bad luck. They do. You say at one point criminals were executed there about by Drowning. I couldn't confirm that fit actual haunting accounts of Poveglia are very shady just because of its sordid history buildings, that currently make up the island, include a cabinet, which is a shelter for boats a church, a hospital.<br>00:21:53An asylum, a bell tower / Lighthouse from what our friend Napoleon did, which is the most visible building from afar and it dates back to the twelfth century and once belong to the church, obviously a housing and administrative building for staff and a plague pit or AKA played field, which most good Islands, have them, which is the word on the street. We just talked about. I'm sorry. Just so that we can all be clearer. If you ever looking for a home on the island island to make sure it's a reputable Island. You need to ask for the plague pit and Orefield is zactly. Estimates range from 100000 to 160000. People died on the island and were buried in the plague pits. However, I could not confirm that. There is an island close by where I also saw that most of the plague victims were buried whether or not it's on this island or one of the close by islands is Up For Debate. Like I said,<br>00:22:53But I want kind of Stroud in the mystery. I would assume that there is a lot. Here that people don't really like talking about as a part of history. Or maybe they do. I don't know. I mean, it's an interesting part of history. There is another rumor that the soil is about 60% human tasks which again on the island as well. So which leads me to believe it's probably not 60% human ass and they are haunted this. I mean, you read a lot of reports where some people were just take him right to the Isle of sick, with the baby right into the blankets today. And I mean, a lot of things like that. You can't confirm, right? They're just out there because this is supposedly one of the world's most haunted island. So, this was named after a mass burial of the victims, after three ways of the epidemic. So when in<br>00:23:531348 to 1348, didn't didn't necessarily impact this island hitches, impacted all of Europe, killed over 5,500 residents of Venice. Many victims were burned in the northern part of the island and remains were transported here to the plague field and some were not burned which we can tell by skeleton remains. And like I said, there were suspicions that somewhere simply thrown into the pit of life. Just for natural course of the Bubonic plague, to take the person, I guess Jake is step out. Another kind of urban legend of the island is that due to erosion of the island bones are commonly, found in fishing nets of local fishermen nearby. So you're very unlikely to spot any fisherman here nowadays, which is speculation with all that being said, I was left, rather underwhelmed. It has a really rich, interesting history forever.<br>00:24:53Cat. Yeah, I mean given it stored in history and lack of residence with visiting being illegal in all. There's very little actual reports of hauntings. And it does appear that if you ghost hunting shows did gain permission to film segments and they dubbed it, the most haunted island in the world giving it its notoriety. And all the actual stories. I was able to find appear to urban legends with nothing that's actually verifiable. And I mean, I would assume there is a lot going on here due to everything. That I just kind of disgust, however, with no oxygen, since stepping foot on the island being illegal. There's no chilling and counters to be passed on around and Sharon. I do have a few of the more notable urban legends of the island that I heard and saw various versions of around the internet. One of the most famous ones. I saw is of a doctor who allegedly experimented on patients with crude lobotomies and other inhumane experiments.<br>00:25:53And there are varying reports of what he was up to included that he wanted to get to the bottom of mentally ill residents who claim to hear voices and Seed, plague victims. According to various reports. The doctor went mad himself and started to see and hear ghosts and ended up jumping or was pushed depending on what story you're reading from the bell tower in the 1930s. Some of them say he fell to his death. Some of them say that he fell did not die and then was taken by an unknown entity. Once you reach the bottom very many different stories on that one. You can read. If there's also reports of moans cries cost and plague victims, still roaming the island and reports of the smell of sulfur and burning wood that emanate from the island and several things down, the smell of sulfur, reported violent ghost, who has touched push slapped and even chose.<br>00:26:53Visitors to the island and there are reports of the bell ringing from the bell tower, even though it was removed years ago. So those are the only actual haunting stories. I can find from the island without any kind of General very general without actually watching any of the ghost hunting shows that I'm not a huge fan of those ghost hunting shows, because I think we need to just say it's not real evidence, because if they had real evidence, it wouldn't just be on the ghost show. Let's be fair. It's true. Yeah, it is true. If the cardassians did anything of note. It wouldn't just be on the Kardashians reality TV show. True. I would like to assume that is haunted but I couldn't fine. Actually any really creepy stories, which I was very sad about. I know we are going to move on.<br>00:27:53Hold on. I search Babar monkey.<br>00:28:01I knew he was going to look at that monkey with the red beret. Okay, is this him? Those are Barbarian monkeys. Distinguished just like people know, we're going to go from Venice to, it will make sense. But these are oddly connected places. It's just going to take awhile to make that connection. Okay, she'll see, I'm going to give you a bit of a rhetorical question and I just want you to answer as honestly as possible. Okay, I'm leaving sometime. I don't know. We're not using the same calendar we have now. So times, just a vague Concept in your mind. You're right as tenth. Yeah, and your highest technological. Prowess is a canoe. You come across an island that is roughly three hundred square kilometers. Has no potable water on it.<br>00:29:00No arable Farmland honest, what do you do with the silent?<br>00:29:06Music for criminal. Interesting, the Australia route. My opinion would be, let's not use this island, seems fairly useless, but that is not what happened to this island. So I am talking about an island in a country called Micronesia and the island is known as pohnpei not to be confused with the other pohnpei. I was just going to ask, it is a very different font. There was a volcano on this island about 2 million years ago. That's how it was formed. It is still very much. So teeming with people about 30,000 people live there today, or is it Micronesia? So it's about a thousand kilometres Northeast of Papua New Guinea island is 26 km long. It is in total about 300 kilometers, 200 miles square of land. It does not have<br>00:30:06Any portable water locations on it? It does not have any known Farmland to have ever existed on. It basically doesn't have a lot of things to do now. I know I honestly would, I would love to visit it, but not for any of the reasons we talked about. Yes, it would have been tastic weather, but it also is very drastically changing. It is open to the elements. It is just in the middle of the Pacific, Ocean, all alone, more or less, why we're talking about this island because he answer that question. What do you do if with this uninhabitable land is build a megalithic city, the inhabitants of this island decided to build a city and this is a very rare way of building a city. In fact, that the only know one place in the world has happened where they decide to not actually build the city on the island. They, in fact built this city on the coral reef beside the island and building megalithic city is known as Nan madol.<br>00:31:06N a n m, a d o l and it is roughly two and a half square kilometers. Large get is made up of up somewhere, right? Around a hundred. I'll it's that they built to support the city. It is built out of Basalt pillars. So there's a volcano on the north side of the island that greater Basalt pillars are basically. Have you ever seen those hexagonal rock formations that look very they have a very systematic pattern to them that are very long pillars. Yes, but only cuz I just Google the picture of very well-known one is I think it's called the pillars of the gods are the pillars of the Giants in Ireland. Go on the north side of the island. They have these Basalt pillars and they decided you know, what, let's take these pillars and build log cabins on the southwest side of the island and they took from the north side to the southwest side. What if Kim lights will go up to million tons of Basalt pillars to build this city. Now these pillars<br>00:32:05Range. The average size is about 5 metric tons. So just so we're on the same page that's about ten thousand pounds as the average size pillar to build this island. The largest ones being 50,000 or sorry 50 tons or a hundred thousand. He'll be keeping in mind. That is far as we know the best technology this Society had was a okay. So I see where we going with this Hundred Islands that they built here. It's 2 and 1/2 square kilometers of land on coral, reefs that they built this on and they built at least a hundred and thirty building in total. The tallest of these buildings is 14 M. Tall are about 50 ft tall and they built walls the same size and about 17 ft thick 2 to protect this city from The Tide. Is it a few Nesco? It's a UNESCO world heritage site. Yes, and we'll get to that point. The largest of the buildings is called the Tomb of the first.<br>00:33:05King and it's about a t m by 60 M wide and long and 26 ft tall. And sorry that's about 262. Ft long and 196 ft wide and 26 feet tall. And that's about the size of a soccer field. Again, bill out of Basalt pillars, that are on average 5 metric ton that have to be moved. 20 km. I see to get there. Now, the best we know or understand of this. This was built by the solar Dynasty and I'm probably butchering how that's supposed to be pronounced. This dynasty was founded in or around the 1100 and went until about the 1640s. This was built as a ritualistic village. Basically, the Church of all the islands around, there's a lot of discussion on whether or not. The people who built this came from lailu, which is another megalithic city on the island of cos Rey, which is about 600 km east of here.<br>00:34:05Yeah, but after carbon dating, they found that let Lulu actually is about a hundred years newer than Nan madol. So that's why I only know that it's likely the same Acres, but you would have to look at. It does share some similarities but Lily was in the middle of the island on Pompeii at most during its Reign, had a thousand people living on the island. Keeping in mind. They never had in the 1990s team tried, you're basically show how they would have built this and they loaded by Metric, ton Basalt slabs on to Bamboo raft. They believed would have been used or at least near what they would have used and it immediately suck struction even anyting. We haven't really had the technology to lift and manipulate a 100,000 lb pillar.<br>00:35:05Until very recently and even then can we even really do that in water? Don't know? Like that's the biggest piece like it's super bizarre. This thing exists that there's no written language. As far as we know, very rudimentary tools and they Rose and fell and basically after that after the 1640s, nobody dare set foot anywhere near Nan, madol, people still lived on the island, but they did not set foot near this city and they believe it's haunted and cursed. And then is going to come out there. Want to tell the oral history. Yes. I don't want to go there any more of the word dynasty then in the 80s, get through this part of the world and this actually does become. It's part of the astonishing power, more or less the Imperial reach of Europe. And Spain does have a big Power here cuz the Philippines aren't that far away and that<br>00:36:05Really? I don't know if you know this but the Philippines are named after King Philip. Oh, I did not know that. And that's why they speak to Gaelic. Not Filipino. Basically that it's yet. We really fucked over the Philippines. I do apologize for what we did is Europeans. Can I take blame for that? You know, I'm not even though we didn't terrible. So the Europeans get there and what the local King, the term that uses no more key be made a proclamation. He said everybody basically that would come there to just drop the holy grounds at once belong to pass rulers with Supernatural. Powers will be breaking the law time. And again, he made it clear that to disturb the hollow ground that once belonged to the old rulers with Supernatural Powers meant a legal for each time. And then tragedy struck those who defied the ban in 1870 for jewelry and artifacts that were buried with the chiefs were plundered, and the boot of a Polish Anthropologist named Jen, Cooper Mary.<br>00:37:05Artifacts from Nan madol was Shipwrecked near the Marshall Islands after departed, in hundreds of crates sink, to the bottom of the ocean if we've never found them again. Oh, wow, then in the twentieth century, the Germans box Pompeii off of the Spanish. So they became the imperialist rulers. And it was put under the power of the governor Victor Berg. He was given the same warning and he disregarded the Royal Bain and entered Nan madol. I don't know if this is like confirmed fully but he did set foot on Nan madol, April, 29th, 1907. So speculation. He opened the sealed tomb and found a coffin of an ancient Island ruler rumor. Has it that the inhabitants of this coffin was about three meters tall or about 10 ft tall in it. He found the skeletal remains of giants measuring two to three meters tall upon his arrival. Back the next morning. He said, Nan madol was alive with spiritual activity. During that night. There was a wild storm with lightning flashes in the sky and torrential rain.<br>00:38:05Counting down on the island, Viktor Berglund, Delerium and reported hearing the sounds of a conch salad blowing and seeing floating balls of light, few hours later on that very same morning, on April 30th. 1907, Governor bird mysteriously died. No, cause of death has claimed. It was because of a curse. Most modern-day people will say it's because of something along the lines of sunstroke die from sunstroke. Oh, yeah, if you're not used to that kind of War going down middle it don't do. They look at it. We'll talk about that once we get there. So, I'm just going through the stuff around World War. It was taken over by the Japanese the japanese-controlled it. They've reportedly all the way Platinum, caskets from a mere location called The House of the Dead under the sea.<br>00:39:06Oh, yeah, and this is this is unfortunately no. And it is historically disregarded. How bad the Japanese were from and World War II about the end of World War II. There are still in Korea. There's a big fight about Japan at least acknowledging what they call Comfort women. And basically they force women to be prostitutes during World War II and Korea. Japan completely says they never did it and I pretended, it never happened in. Korea is very big on pushing that you need to accept the sins of your past. Yeah. This is a hard part of History to find up much of do Japan from Japan and they're the only people here. So unfortunately, this is hearsay and it's really hard to find a first-person accounts, but they discovered coffins underwater and they open them up and they apparently found large pieces and quantities of platinum. And suddenly, the main export of Pompeii to Japan. Which before<br>00:40:05Was Vanilla copper Sago and mother-of-pearl and it became the valuable white metal Platinum. One day, two members of the Blasphemous mission to the house of the dead vanished because of all this stuff that's going on to those the Japanese died there. They kind of stopped digging but because of all this history that we just talked about. There's very few artifacts left actually finding a doll. What the hell? Japan Platinum is used for a lot of things. It also is a luxury metal. I couldn't speculate. I would assume some sort of weapon of War. That's the interactions that they've had after that. It did get involved in World War II in the Pacific Theater. And in fact, apparently if you go visit Pompeii and the main city, there is still the body of a Japanese tank just sitting there that you can see. So that would be really cool.<br>00:40:57From Alliance planes, flying over this island. They saw none badal. It got the reputation of being known as the Venice of the Pacific. So that's the connection there that we finally got to. Okay, good. I'm glad it finally connects and you can in fact, go over there and go take a trip to Nan madol. If you were to fly to Pompeii and it's really weird because there is an entire web page about it on the national park, service's of the US and that's because Micronesia falls under the protection of US military. And now I'm a dollar is considered a national park of the US and you can take a flight from Hawaii and it just it's a bunch of mini flights that go to all these little islands and tante's honest and you can go for a couple hours. Just check out malmedal. It sounds like he sounds like you shouldn't go there. So it is very hard to actually find somebody on the island.<br>00:41:57Hunan middle, there's two ways to get there. There is a road system now, and you can get to Nan madol from the road system at low tide. You still have to walk through water to get there, but it's less water. By the way, you do need the permission of the no more key to actually go to Nan madol. And then you can either go there with a guide by car. Or you can get somebody to take you by boat. There are very few people that will take you there. And apparently it's quite expensive to get a guide. And even with these people accepting to take you, they will not take you at night time. If you are there near the fall, they will say Kate's time to leave can't be here anymore. And to this day local, still tell tale of seeing balls of light coming from Nan madol and hearing Echoes of voices coming from their do. People still live on this island about 30,000, people live on the island more than I would have thought their story passed down orally through time. Is that their Island?<br>00:42:57Was visited by two wizards from a far-off land, by the name of Michael Scott. No, just kidding. It's not possible. And their two brothers were very large comparative Lee to them and they built Nan madol and they built it through levitation and the help of a dragon. He usually is levitation. That is usually levitation and this reminds me a lot of Coral, Castle, as well, in a later date, but died and all the sofa, found a wife on the island. He had an heir to the throne and created a linear chain of 12 dynasties that ruled over the island until the downfall husband. And that is what historians consider the soda lower Dynasty. Now, they don't believe the whole part about the wizards, but they do believe the solar dynasty mean, I believe in the Wizards, who else could have built this?<br>00:43:57Has put Nan madol to have been built around the 1100. There are very many contentious arguments about whether or not that is correct. And a lot of people when they're saying that's not correct, will say. And sorry, this is Thorium uranium dating, which is used for Coral. It's not always the best to use, depending on what type of coral you have. But unfortunately, I kind of ran out of time on learning about Thorium, uranium dating. I know it's big about this whole thing and we've talked about this before locals are very, apprehensive to open up about the history of Nadal. They don't like to share it, and it's partly because of the curse. And then the other part you just can't really know why. Somebody doesn't want to tell you something. Maybe everybody has gone. And asked. If we don't know, they probably are at least up until the 1980s.<br>00:44:56But I know I would say yes, but I don't know that they're not ask. I mean, I'm sure there's enough because I was like, why would they just build this on an island? First of all that has nothing? Nothing. And then not only do they not build it on the island. They build it on a coral reef, by the end of it, is considered the only megalithic city that wasn't built on land. That's funny. First of all, because who would do that under any like sort of reasoning but that I like turning them. It took, I want it protected me. Be there is still ongoing Research into this, like really the archaeological and geological research in to nominal, didn't start until about the nineteen-seventies. It's still ongoing and it is sorry. One thing. I never mentioned that I think is important to talk about now. It's been untended since the 16th. So it is covered what's called mangroves. And those are<br>00:45:56Forest that grow on the very shallow ocean waters. So it does not look inhabitable at this point is covered in forest. Was it when they lived in it, those thousand people lived in it. And then whatever happened during that war, there are Tales of this Warrior that rose up from a nearby Island, but it's really hard to say what happened. They just completely disregarded and will not tell anybody about it. In the most recent lidar scan was done. So lighter is basically, it's a deeper radar that lets you kind of know what's hidden beneath later. Vegetations shows that. At one point, they did have irrigation systems within the city so they would have had potable water in them at all. Maybe that's why it had to be on the coral for them to be able to do that maybe, but that since the whole weird thing and while doing some research into this, I did see one proposal that Nan madol does predate the great flood.<br>00:46:56So antediluvian or younger dryas. This would have been in one of those Prime locations for a greater land mass for when it was. And they kind of basically said it makes a lot of sense for this to be built, prior to water being there to be pointed towards magnetic north. Which at the time that they're proposing. It would have been built would have been when truenorth was in the Hudson Bay. And to this day they have not proposed any way that they put those Basalt pillars on top of each other. And even read that UNESCO. It is a UNESCO world heritage site. Read that article. It does not give one damn explanation about how they actually built this. One of those things that they can't recreate just like we weren't able to recreate the pyramids, right? And there are so many different explanations for the pier.<br>00:47:56Beds that it's hard to really say which one you're talking about at the point that they try to recreate as I do agree. At least the consensus at this point is the pyramids were not built by slaves but a specialized group of Trades. People that impact were buried near their work of art. Superfluous at a certain point and be not necessary. We would forget that trade. This place is crazy. This just makes no damn sense and it is as far as I'm concerned, cursed. I'm going with the locals, don't even advertise. It is a place. They want people to come visit. It's not a tourist destination. It's just kind of something that's there and it disappoint in human history. We explain everything. All the curse. Did, he Nan? Madol? So that is Nan madol. I highly encourage anybody. If you do want to check,<br>00:48:56So go check out the national parks of the Us website because they do explain the occasion that you can take hopping Island from there. And Guam unfortunately would not include Easter Island because that is a territory of Chilly. So if you want to go to Easter Island, you need to go to Chile. And that is also a different group that were talking about. That's the rap and who he's on Easter Island and I would love to do an episode on Easter Island. Just because most people don't even know that there were more than just had the infected bodies. Blow them. That's where I leave off. There is very little in concrete answers this. The only thing that I would say can't be corroborated necessarily is my talk about the Japanese on this island, but I have no reason to discredit what they're saying in there. And there are several people who agree with them that we just can't. There's only so much we can find. After looking at various sources, we do our best as we've always said, and I have never heard somebody tell anything more than<br>00:49:56But I just explained to all of you. I have watched and learned much about this in about three years cuz I find this place so bizarre, and Jen's going to be very upset cuz I had to make a hard choice between This Island and North Sentinel Island. And she loves North Sentinel Island. This one is this one is a fun one. This was a good choice. Stories together nicely. Yes. So there you have it. Two islands that are real or kind of weird. And sorry, one more thing. I should mention that, you know, what? This thing gets connected to a lot. Amelia Earhart. No, lemuria, and or moo, it's the last parts of the continent that are above water. It's funny because I didn't see it. Once. When I saw it in a couple videos. I was watching. They're saying that. And these people who were talking about, it said, lemuria and more the same thing. I did see that come up.<br>00:50:56Very different things. But anyhow, that's it. That's another tale for a different day. Thank you, all for listening. We both love and appreciate you for putting up with us and just accepting. All this knowledge that we're pouring upon. You is true from here. This is just a short vacation on to some nice mysterious Islands. We're going to go talk a little about the apocalypse now, so thank you all for stopping by the power of Christ. Compels you or something along those lines.<br>00:51:42Thank you for listening to Journey To The Fringe at we are a new podcast and we would very much so appreciate. If you could like subscribe, share & if possible provide a 5-star review or some sort of feedback. If you feel like there's anything we could be doing better. But five star review is the best thing you can do for us as it does help. Unfortunately in the world of algorithms and thank you and you can follow us on social media at Journey To The Fringe. We don't have all of them. So try searching it. Instagram for on Facebook right now. We have a subreddit and if there's anything you want to hear in the future, you back anything, you can email us that Journey To The Fringe at gmail.com., If there's something, we're missing added that you'd like to see is on please, let us know. We only know what we know so far.<br>00:52:42How many places also, if you feel that we have gotten anything wrong, please let us know they're as well as we would really like to have the best information possible. We are only as good as our research and if you can provide anything further, it's a real help. If you want to share anything. We will definitely. We're open two chairs. So, yes, thank you for listening.<br>Transcribed by algorithms.