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Okay, Chelsea, no option this time. You told

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me we're going into a two parter. So I decided

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that I'm going to kind of go into a two parter

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too, in that these are going to be kind of paired

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stories in that. Well, I don't like that you

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don't give me a choice. I haven't been disappointed

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with the choices that you've made for me. Well,

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I feel like some of the stories have. disappointed

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you in that they reveal aspects of the world

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but it's disappointing in a way that i wasn't

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able to choose as well as am disappointed in

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humanity but not disappointed with your choice

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okay there's a difference fair enough well these

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are going to be appearing in the arc of the rich

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person's emotions saga that we followed in the

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fringy minis However, this is like that category.

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Yeah, I like that category, too. It's usually

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fun. However, this is the opposite side of the

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rich person's emotions in how other people have

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to react to sea level changes. I feel like that's

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the side I don't like. to explore and very few

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people do and the stories stay hidden on it for

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the most part yeah i'm feeling conflicted at

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this time but uh let's see what you got okay

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this article comes from the week uk the week's

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about like the the week the days of the week

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oh not like We did have it from another source,

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but that source has a paywall that I cannot reach

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at the moment. So we are here, unless you guys

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want to pay us miraculously in the next 30 seconds

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or so to get that other one. Anything? No, nothing

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yet. So we're just going to go ahead with this.

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There's still like 20 seconds. Yeah, they still

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got it. I'm gonna start reading though. Okay

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This is from July 31st 2025 written by Davika

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Rao Article title Tuvalu is being lost to climate

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change other countries will likely follow The

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island nation of Tuvalu is becoming the first

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country to be completely lost due to rising sea

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levels However, the country is possibly only

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the first of many without actions taken to mitigate

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climate change Tuvalu, located in Oceania, is

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expected to be completely underwater by 2050.

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What? The island nation with a population of

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11 ,000. Once you see pictures of Tuvalu it's

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gonna make sense, but we'll talk about it at

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the end here. The island nation with a population

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of just 11 ,000 is setting a precedent to become

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the first country to have to permanently evacuate.

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To do this, Australia and Tuvalu signed the Philippine

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Union Treaty. which is an, quote, agreement that

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provides for a migration scheme that will allow

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280 Tuvaluans per year to settle in Australia

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as permanent residents, end quote, said Wired.

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This is the first climate visa of its kind, end

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quote. We received extremely high levels of interest

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in the ballots with 8 ,750 registrations, basically

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everybody that lived there, which includes family

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members of primary registrants, end quote, with

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my additions in there. The Australian High Commission

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in Tuvalu said in a statement, The visa operates

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through a ballot system and quote, will grant

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beneficiaries the same health, education, housing

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and employment rights enjoyed by Australian citizens,

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end quote, said Wired. Tuvaluans, which I just

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gotta say, one of the greatest like nationality

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prefixes I've ever heard. Tuvaluans is great.

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It rolls right off the tongue. Yeah, it does

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sound really nice. And we're losing that, which

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is so sad. Well, they would still be Tuvaluans,

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just not in Tuvalu. Well, there's not that many

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of them. It's going to be like one generation

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and they'll be gone. Well, your ancestry though.

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Tuvaluans will also be able to return to their

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home country if conditions allow. However, Tuvalu

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is perhaps just the first of many countries or

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regions that will have to evacuate because of

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climate change. Quote. From historic droughts

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to catastrophic floods, these extreme variations

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disrupt lives, economies, and entire ecosystems.

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A professor at Australian National University

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said to Wired, Unfortunately, Tuvalu is the canary

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in the coal mine and that coal mine is rapidly

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filling with water. While not on the scale of

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an entire country, there have been other times

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when almost full populations have made moves

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to evacuate where they lived. In 2024, approximately

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1 ,200 members of the indigenous Guna community

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relocated from the island of Gardi -Sugdub off

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the coast of Panama to the mainland. This was

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also due to rising sea levels slowly sinking

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the island. This was, quote, one of the first

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planned migrations in Latin America due to climate

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change, end quotes at AFP. In a similar vein,

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Nearly 300 people moved from New Talk, Alaska,

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because the village was perched on permafrost,

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which began to thaw dangerously and erode the

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banks. More countries are likely to become less

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habitable in the future. By 2070, over, quote,

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three billion people could find themselves living

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outside of humanity's climate niche, end quote,

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said the San Francisco Chronicle. Island nations

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are especially at risk. The Maldives are an archipelago

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comprising almost 1 ,200 islands, most of which

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are under four feet above sea level. Wow. Making

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them especially vulnerable to changes in ocean

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levels. Quote, even a minimal rise in water levels

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can lead to a major change, such as coastal erosion,

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salinization of drinking water sources, and more

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frequent flooding, end quote said Wodna Sprawji.

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Which, okay, it's a Polish name, it doesn't sound

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fake. Wait, okay, Wat Nisprally is a Polish publication,

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it's not even a Polish person, never mind. As

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preparation, the Maldives government has quote,

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explored plans to purchase land on higher grounds

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in other countries, end quote, said NASA. Why

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would NASA say that? Why didn't the Maldives?

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Anyhow, I don't know if I trust the weak UK yet

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as a great source. Almost every other island

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nation faces similar risks. including Kiribati,

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the Solomon Islands, Fiji, and Vanuatu. The US

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is also not free from the threat of relocation.

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Several coastal states such as Florida, Louisiana,

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Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi are at risk of

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losing their coastlines. New York City, Chicago,

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and several cities in California are also sinking,

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which could in time require evacuation. In addition,

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the Gulf of Mexico is rising three times faster

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than the global average, according to a study

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published in the journal Nature. Without measures

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to combat climate change, mass migration may

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be the only way to survive. And that's the end

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of the article. I found it really interesting,

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actually, at the end there, where they include

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Chicago, which is not a coastal city. It's on

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a lake. So they're sinking for a very different

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reason, I would think. What? Any idea what reason

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that one is? It could be that they're using too

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much groundwater and it's sinking that way. Weird.

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And, you know, there's a handful of states that

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I always forget are coastal states like Mississippi.

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But definitely a bad side of global warming that

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I mean you talk about rising sea levels and and

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whatnot, and you think, yeah, yeah, it's so far

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in the future, but you think, you know, with

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this article, this is in the next, what did they

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say, 2050? 2050, 25 years. 25 years, we're gonna

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lose whole entire populations. And I did pull

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up Tuvalu, like, I do see how this could, I mean,

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it was teetering on it the whole time, I think,

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as it's falling in the ocean. Its highest point

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is six feet above sea level. And it's very tiny.

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Yeah. Oh, it's very long. It is a strip of sand

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above the ocean pretty much. I don't know that

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I would like to live there. If you ever told

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me to design a highway that goes across the ocean,

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that's what I would do. I'd make it look like

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Tuvalu. Yeah, it would with a big enough wave.

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It would be gone. Yeah, it makes me nervous.

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I will say apparently Australia and Tuvalu have

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had these talks going back to the 1960s. You

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would have to be at a low level. Yeah, you would

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have to. Yeah, that's crazy. Something you don't

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think about. Well, I mean, no, where I am, it's

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not. that uh there's a threat here yes because

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i am close to the well not where you are specifically

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but you're in the city itself yeah it could be

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if it rises far enough yes and yeah it's just

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like there's no point in saving this island importantly

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because i don't think any really rich people

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live there yeah and it's only worth saving if

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rich people are there yeah they're not shoring

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up the beaches there yeah How true. And yeah,

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it's funny that they're talking about like, basically

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the entire country did sign up to leave. Well,

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you would have to. Who would be so crazy to not?

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The captain of the island. You say that, but

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people are like... Dreaming into Florida, which

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is basically in the exact same situation Yeah,

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but I mean Florida people are Florida people

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Yeah, but how do we know Tuvaluans aren't just

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the Floridians of the Oceania area? I feel like

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nobody is the Florida of anywhere but Florida.

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That's a fair point Only Americans can be so

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American. Yeah, and then there's Floridians Floridians?

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Yeah, I think that's how you say it I don't know.

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But yeah, you guys got 48 hours. Go check if

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you're at risk in the next 70 or so years of

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falling into the ocean. If not, hey, keep listening.

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Bye.
