WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:32.329 us on a Journey to the Fringe. We are your sometimes 00:00:32.329 --> 00:00:35.429 less prepared than one thought podcast host Taylor 00:00:35.429 --> 00:00:38.549 and Chelsea here today doing a Chelsea episode 00:00:38.549 --> 00:00:43.770 and I'll let her take it from there Yeah, it's 00:00:43.770 --> 00:00:46.310 like we're not prepared but hey, I'm letting 00:00:46.310 --> 00:00:50.590 you in on too many secrets right now so I was 00:00:50.590 --> 00:00:54.549 listening to the podcast as I do when I'm not 00:00:54.549 --> 00:00:59.789 the editor that week and Inspiration was struck 00:00:59.789 --> 00:01:03.189 on the tunnel episode because that was a golden 00:01:03.189 --> 00:01:07.090 episode it was a fun episode yeah really parkins 00:01:07.090 --> 00:01:09.430 back to like our first couple seasons where was 00:01:09.430 --> 00:01:11.450 just like give you a general overview of this 00:01:11.450 --> 00:01:14.069 entire topic without diving too much into it 00:01:14.069 --> 00:01:16.790 yeah that was fun and then sometimes we took 00:01:16.790 --> 00:01:20.969 turns which we just completely act yeah we really 00:01:20.969 --> 00:01:26.680 did it wasn't. Intentional I don't think no it 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:29.439 took too much coordinating It took a little too 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.120 much coordinating and also it took away the ability 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:35.379 to like have one person be the stand -in surprise 00:01:35.379 --> 00:01:39.000 person or like the layman Yeah, that's true ask 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.019 questions not knowing a lot about it Yeah, I 00:01:42.019 --> 00:01:44.200 forgot about that because then when we know too 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.650 much we can't ask the questions. Yeah Or you 00:01:47.650 --> 00:01:50.010 ask weird, different questions that wouldn't 00:01:50.010 --> 00:01:53.269 be the normal ones you'd want. Yeah. Not like 00:01:53.269 --> 00:01:58.030 our weird questions we ask. Yeah, exactly. So 00:01:58.030 --> 00:02:02.010 inspiration was struck and that's what ended 00:02:02.010 --> 00:02:05.450 up with my episode today. As it usually does, 00:02:05.510 --> 00:02:08.810 I'm inspired somehow usually to do an episode 00:02:08.810 --> 00:02:13.650 on Mines. Mines with an M. We'll mistake that 00:02:13.650 --> 00:02:17.490 for an M. That would be such a fucking weird 00:02:17.490 --> 00:02:20.509 episode if I did mimes. I mean, they are a fringy 00:02:20.509 --> 00:02:23.849 topic, especially there's got to be like, it's 00:02:23.849 --> 00:02:26.870 true. Do you think people do podcasts on mimes? 00:02:27.150 --> 00:02:29.930 I would say no, but there's got to be like a 00:02:29.930 --> 00:02:34.629 John Wayne Gacy of mimes, does there not? Yeah. 00:02:35.270 --> 00:02:38.330 No. Are you scared of mimes comes up. I just 00:02:38.330 --> 00:02:41.069 did a quick search because I was curious. Let's 00:02:41.069 --> 00:02:44.740 just jump right in. The number one. thing that 00:02:44.740 --> 00:02:47.379 you're going to find with and it's spooky mines. 00:02:47.699 --> 00:02:50.180 We're not just talking about I'm not just going 00:02:50.180 --> 00:02:53.919 to list you mines in this episode. OK, we're 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.280 going to. And I assume they're not open pit mines. 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:58.879 That just doesn't feel like it gives off spooky 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.080 feels. I'm not sure exactly what that is. So 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.400 there might be. Well, that's just where like 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.680 they just like dig into the ground. You don't 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.080 go into a mine itself. I don't think so. But 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.060 I don't know. We might be in for some surprises. 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:18.039 OK. We started this episode by saying... We like 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.879 to be surprised by our episodes too. Exactly. 00:03:21.780 --> 00:03:26.639 As I'm constantly demonstrating. This is what 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.819 I mean by an open pit mine. It just does not 00:03:28.819 --> 00:03:31.500 give off scary vibes. And I don't think there's 00:03:31.500 --> 00:03:33.759 going to be anything haunting those. You didn't 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:37.020 have dinosaur ghosts? which we learned this week 00:03:37.020 --> 00:03:40.819 even are a real thing from chat at GBT to confirm 00:03:40.819 --> 00:03:43.379 it. Although it might have been reacting to what 00:03:43.379 --> 00:03:46.819 we've said about it. I'm a little we got to be 00:03:46.819 --> 00:03:49.960 like on the forefront of dinosaur ghosts and 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.900 dinosaur ghost research. I believe that we are 00:03:52.900 --> 00:03:55.879 the first research. We might be the experts on 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.159 this. Yeah, I think we are. So if anybody needs 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:03.819 an expert on dinosaur, we're your guys. So first 00:04:03.819 --> 00:04:07.909 one. First spooky thing you're ever gonna find 00:04:07.909 --> 00:04:11.830 with mines are Tommy knockers Which have come 00:04:11.830 --> 00:04:14.550 up I believe in a Halloween episode, but these 00:04:14.550 --> 00:04:17.110 guys might be a little bit different They also 00:04:17.110 --> 00:04:19.870 fully need their own episode I think okay because 00:04:19.870 --> 00:04:22.769 they're pretty cool guys And I think you can 00:04:22.769 --> 00:04:25.490 find them in a variety of situations and in this 00:04:25.490 --> 00:04:28.709 specific situation you find them in mines Tommy 00:04:28.709 --> 00:04:32.509 knockers are like the Irish equivalent of leprechaun 00:04:32.490 --> 00:04:35.750 They're little wee people. Irish equivalent of 00:04:35.750 --> 00:04:39.069 leprechauns? Yeah. What ethnicity are leprechauns? 00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:43.269 Irish. Maybe that didn't come out right. Do you 00:04:43.269 --> 00:04:45.550 mean like they're the American version of Irish 00:04:45.550 --> 00:04:48.730 leprechauns? They're Cornish. Cornish, okay. 00:04:48.990 --> 00:04:53.829 Yeah. So their equivalent would be Irish leprechauns, 00:04:53.829 --> 00:04:57.329 I think is how that meant to come out. And they're 00:04:57.329 --> 00:05:01.129 little people who share the underground with 00:05:01.129 --> 00:05:04.449 Cornish miners. Yeah. And I always assume, I 00:05:04.449 --> 00:05:06.550 think we just should establish this early on. 00:05:06.750 --> 00:05:08.730 We're talking about miners in this episode. It's 00:05:08.730 --> 00:05:12.149 ER, not OR. Yes. The Cornish do not put their 00:05:12.149 --> 00:05:16.970 children underground. Yes. Miners hear eerie 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:20.689 sounds working underground. Sounds made by the 00:05:20.689 --> 00:05:24.230 earth moving along fault lines, miners in distant 00:05:24.230 --> 00:05:28.110 tunnels, lots of creepy sounds, dynamite charges, 00:05:28.730 --> 00:05:31.990 wearing machines echoing off tunnel walls. All 00:05:31.990 --> 00:05:35.250 could be attributed to tommy knockers. Sounds 00:05:35.250 --> 00:05:38.410 of dripping water, spraying mules, and creaking 00:05:38.410 --> 00:05:41.029 mine cars were compounded by total darkness. 00:05:41.670 --> 00:05:44.470 Cornish miners believed that benevolent tommy 00:05:44.470 --> 00:05:47.370 knockers beckoned them towards finding fortunes. 00:05:47.750 --> 00:05:50.089 They believed that tommy knockers warned them 00:05:50.089 --> 00:05:53.050 of impending disasters, especially cave -ins. 00:05:53.290 --> 00:05:56.449 Tommy knockers were the diminutive creatures 00:05:56.449 --> 00:05:59.430 knocking on tunnel walls signaling immediate 00:05:59.430 --> 00:06:02.709 danger, and some miners believe the Tommy knockers 00:06:02.709 --> 00:06:05.009 were the spirits of those who died underground, 00:06:05.290 --> 00:06:08.930 luring others to join them. If you actually saw 00:06:08.930 --> 00:06:12.129 a Tommy knocker, you're gonna die. This unfortunate 00:06:12.129 --> 00:06:15.490 characteristic has never been proven wrong because 00:06:15.490 --> 00:06:18.449 no one has ever seen one and lived to tell the 00:06:18.449 --> 00:06:22.009 tale. Trickster Tommyknocker tales were told 00:06:22.009 --> 00:06:25.810 both in jest and in seriousness. Tools disappeared. 00:06:26.129 --> 00:06:28.730 Items fell down shafts when dropped by deranged 00:06:28.730 --> 00:06:32.110 we -folk. They extinguished lamps and candles 00:06:32.110 --> 00:06:34.689 and left miners hopeless in the dark and committed 00:06:34.689 --> 00:06:37.529 other malevolent folk -war. Hey Kana, is this 00:06:37.529 --> 00:06:40.089 a good moment for a few comments? Yeah, yeah. 00:06:40.290 --> 00:06:42.670 Okay, first and foremost, it's weird that they're 00:06:42.670 --> 00:06:45.569 really nice to you unless they're not and they 00:06:45.569 --> 00:06:49.009 will murder you. but the weird way that was phrased 00:06:49.009 --> 00:06:52.389 is it does seem like people have seen Tommy Knockers 00:06:52.389 --> 00:06:54.769 like it's implied that some people have seen 00:06:54.769 --> 00:06:57.170 it but like we would never really know about 00:06:57.170 --> 00:06:59.670 that unless they've been able to talk to someone 00:06:59.670 --> 00:07:03.170 prior to their life and I feel like more the 00:07:03.170 --> 00:07:06.750 idea is people sense their presence around them 00:07:06.750 --> 00:07:10.310 by the knocking and the missing of tools they're 00:07:10.310 --> 00:07:13.730 like the trickster leprechauns but nicer than 00:07:13.730 --> 00:07:17.069 leprechauns except they may murder you Exactly. 00:07:17.350 --> 00:07:19.269 That's really what they're going for, I think. 00:07:19.449 --> 00:07:21.769 So I'm glad you picked up on that. Yeah, but 00:07:21.769 --> 00:07:24.129 it is weird how they phrased it like nobody has 00:07:24.129 --> 00:07:26.810 ever seen one and lived to tell about it. Yeah, 00:07:26.910 --> 00:07:29.490 because that implies that like people have seen 00:07:29.490 --> 00:07:31.649 it and then were murdered because of it. But 00:07:31.649 --> 00:07:34.189 it could just be nobody's seen them. Yeah, it 00:07:34.189 --> 00:07:37.689 could be either one. The way it's phrased is 00:07:37.689 --> 00:07:42.819 implied that they've been murdered. No, that's 00:07:42.819 --> 00:07:46.120 that's true and that's a part of their like duality 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.120 I think if I was to say anything But I think 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.420 they deserve a whole episode on their own because 00:07:52.420 --> 00:07:55.040 from what I recall in the Halloween episode I 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.300 thought they lived in graveyard Apparently they 00:07:58.300 --> 00:08:01.100 lived in mine. So I would I'm not actually sure 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:03.600 where they made an appearance in our episodes 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.899 just from the way they're named it almost makes 00:08:05.899 --> 00:08:08.699 me think that like You know that the grounds 00:08:08.699 --> 00:08:10.889 like shifting and moving And like, if you hear 00:08:10.889 --> 00:08:13.069 a tommy knocker, that's the ground shifting. 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.250 And it's a good sign that maybe you shouldn't 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:19.029 be going into this part of the mine. Yeah. This 00:08:19.029 --> 00:08:22.389 is a very practical approach to it. Well, I think 00:08:22.389 --> 00:08:26.269 this is a very old kind of thing as well. It's 00:08:26.269 --> 00:08:29.709 folklore. And it's before they had safeguards 00:08:29.709 --> 00:08:33.090 and stuff with the mines as technology grants 00:08:33.090 --> 00:08:36.429 you. Not everybody can have a marathon running 00:08:36.429 --> 00:08:39.919 robot just at hand back in these days. Wait, 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.120 do you think that's what they're going to be 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.120 doing with the marathon riding them into the 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:49.820 mines? I kind of have an inkling. Yeah. I mean, 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.799 I wouldn't even the toddlers, especially the 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.159 toddler. Do you see him? He's made for working 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:02.460 in the mine. I think the Tommy knockers definitely 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:05.500 deserve more. That's all I got on them. for now, 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.919 except that there are still modern reports of 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:12.620 tommy knockers. No, I don't think I finished 00:09:12.620 --> 00:09:17.259 my sentence. So this was back when in the days 00:09:17.259 --> 00:09:21.700 of old, before they had safeguards for, you know, 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.419 not having mines cave in and such. I don't know 00:09:25.419 --> 00:09:27.740 a whole lot about mining, but I assume that there 00:09:27.740 --> 00:09:30.059 could be things that they do better now about 00:09:30.059 --> 00:09:32.240 it. Yeah, they got the robots going in there. 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.960 yeah exactly they have competition to see which 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.139 robot gets the mining one because they all want 00:09:37.139 --> 00:09:41.960 it so bad yeah the future is looking bright but 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.299 the folklore probably started around something 00:09:44.299 --> 00:09:47.139 like that creeks in the mind danger it's gonna 00:09:47.139 --> 00:09:50.919 collapse tommy knocker stuff like that i can't 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.600 put it all fully together in a nice vision for 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.379 you right now you get the words that i'm saying 00:09:56.379 --> 00:09:58.220 until one of them murdered somebody because it 00:09:58.220 --> 00:10:03.580 saw them yeah exactly and yeah very dangerous 00:10:03.580 --> 00:10:06.200 those tommy knockers but also the nicest people 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.759 you'll ever meet yeah that you'll never meet 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:14.019 yeah hopefully so there are still modern reports 00:10:14.019 --> 00:10:17.320 of tommy knockers sounds of unexplained knocking 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.419 or laughter that are still reported in abandoned 00:10:20.419 --> 00:10:24.080 us mines like those in colorado and west virginia 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.240 and sounds like they could have their own episode, 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:30.600 like I said, that we're going back to, you know, 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.379 just a brief overview and we're on to the next 00:10:34.379 --> 00:10:37.860 one already. The next one. Do you have anything 00:10:37.860 --> 00:10:40.759 else to add about Tommy Knockers? I don't think 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.039 so. Other than so, it's a Cornish and American 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.399 thing. Yeah. You got it. You followed correctly. 00:10:48.019 --> 00:10:50.840 Good job. Just wanted to make sure. Yep. OK. 00:10:51.379 --> 00:10:55.320 Second mine is the Belmiz Faces of the Mines. 00:10:55.849 --> 00:10:59.809 Spain. This one's not a mine, per se. The guidelines 00:10:59.809 --> 00:11:02.809 were loose on this one. I'm... whoops. It was 00:11:02.809 --> 00:11:06.490 loose. What can I say? It's mine adjacent though, 00:11:06.850 --> 00:11:08.470 I think. Mines do come up. Why don't you just 00:11:08.470 --> 00:11:11.049 say what it is? All I know is in Spain. What 00:11:11.049 --> 00:11:13.870 is it? I don't know. He says not a mine. That's 00:11:13.870 --> 00:11:15.830 all I know. Yeah, you just have to listen. Stop 00:11:15.830 --> 00:11:19.769 interrupting me. Okay. In a Spanish mining town. 00:11:19.909 --> 00:11:23.000 See? There we go. Well, we're still we're getting 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.220 there. It's not a town. I don't think oh ghostly 00:11:26.220 --> 00:11:29.840 faces We're said to appear on the floor of a 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.820 miners home after a death in the family reports 00:11:33.820 --> 00:11:36.940 of appearances in Belmez began on the 23rd of 00:11:36.940 --> 00:11:41.740 August 1971 when Maria Gomez Camara claimed that 00:11:41.740 --> 00:11:45.179 a human face formed spontaneously on her concrete 00:11:45.179 --> 00:11:48.960 kitchen floor Maria's husband Juan Pereira and 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.600 their son Miguel destroyed the image with a pickaxe 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.179 and new concrete was laid down Can you imagine 00:11:55.179 --> 00:11:56.879 getting to that point where you're like fuck 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.240 this face in the concrete? Here is this? Son 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:04.700 get the pickaxe 1971 Okay. Yeah, that's a little 00:12:04.700 --> 00:12:07.799 past where I would feel like a pickaxe responses. 00:12:08.179 --> 00:12:10.639 Yeah, maybe maybe put down some carpet or maybe 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.279 I don't know Yeah, Brugs didn't exist in the 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:17.590 Spanish are just so fiery They're always looking 00:12:17.590 --> 00:12:21.230 for an excuse to get that pickaxe out. They really 00:12:21.230 --> 00:12:26.389 are. However, the Pereira story goes, a new face 00:12:26.389 --> 00:12:29.750 formed on the floor. The mayor of Belmez was 00:12:29.750 --> 00:12:32.909 informed and forbade the destruction of the new 00:12:32.909 --> 00:12:35.929 face. Instead, the floor concrete was cut out 00:12:35.929 --> 00:12:39.210 and taken for setting. I love how they do things 00:12:39.210 --> 00:12:43.360 in Spain. Maria's home was advertised to tourists 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:47.139 a la Casa de las Queres, the house of the faces. 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:51.919 By Easter 1972, hundreds of people were flocking 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.700 to the house to see the faces. For the next 30 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:57.500 years, the Pereira family claimed that faces 00:12:57.500 --> 00:13:00.539 continued to appear, both male and female and 00:13:00.539 --> 00:13:03.779 of different shapes, sizes, expressions. Local 00:13:03.779 --> 00:13:06.340 legend has it that the house was built over an 00:13:06.340 --> 00:13:09.649 old graveyard. Excavations beneath the home in 00:13:09.649 --> 00:13:13.870 1972 revealed human remains. Some skulls missing 00:13:13.870 --> 00:13:17.190 jaws, others buried strangely. The remains were 00:13:17.190 --> 00:13:20.049 exhumed and reburied elsewhere. For a while the 00:13:20.049 --> 00:13:23.110 faces stopped, then they came back. More vivid, 00:13:23.330 --> 00:13:25.909 more detailed, as if disturbed spirits had found 00:13:25.909 --> 00:13:28.789 a new way to speak. Some believe the faces are 00:13:28.789 --> 00:13:31.730 psychic imprints of the dead. What paranormal 00:13:31.730 --> 00:13:35.720 theorists called stone tape theory? never heard 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.940 of that. The idea that strong emotions can imprint 00:13:38.940 --> 00:13:41.820 themselves onto physical materials like a recording. 00:13:42.139 --> 00:13:45.659 And that's the Belmez faces. Much more detailed 00:13:45.659 --> 00:13:48.259 than the Tommy Dockers, I gotta say. Well, it's 00:13:48.259 --> 00:13:50.779 one thing that's not going on for generations 00:13:50.779 --> 00:13:54.320 unknown that will kill you if you see it. This 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.519 is a lot more one specific mind -working individual 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:02.019 who decided to haunt his place near the mind. 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:06.309 Exactly. And Spanish things ensue. Yes, very 00:14:06.309 --> 00:14:10.230 spare. Responds in Spanish. Now you know why 00:14:10.230 --> 00:14:14.830 I say mine adjacent. I did say mine a few times 00:14:14.830 --> 00:14:18.110 in there, if you noticed. Yeah, you really emphasized 00:14:18.110 --> 00:14:21.409 them when they came up. I wanted to make sure 00:14:21.409 --> 00:14:24.870 that you knew. OK, this one has to I don't want 00:14:24.870 --> 00:14:26.850 to pick favorites, but this one's my favorite 00:14:26.850 --> 00:14:28.629 in the episode. And you're going to see why in 00:14:28.629 --> 00:14:33.679 a second. September 10, 1978, a group of miners 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.960 in Freiburg, Germany approached the mine's entrance 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.940 to begin their day of work. As they got closer, 00:14:41.220 --> 00:14:44.120 they noticed a man appearing to be wrapped in 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:46.980 a dark trench coat standing in front of the entrance 00:14:46.980 --> 00:14:50.860 of the mine. Unsure as to why the man was standing 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:54.100 there, a few of the workers approached to investigate. 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.460 However, when they got a few feet away from the 00:14:57.460 --> 00:15:00.799 man, what they thought was a trench coat flung 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.779 open and formed a pair of huge outstretched wings 00:15:04.779 --> 00:15:08.710 attached to his dark figure. The miners, who 00:15:08.710 --> 00:15:11.950 had approached, stood in shock and after a moment 00:15:11.950 --> 00:15:14.950 the dark figure let out a series of piercing 00:15:14.950 --> 00:15:19.049 shrieks, which would later be described by eyewitnesses 00:15:19.049 --> 00:15:22.750 as sounding like 50 men screaming and the sound 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:27.250 of trains emergency brakes. The miners fled from 00:15:27.250 --> 00:15:30.539 the creature and the mine's entrance. From a 00:15:30.539 --> 00:15:33.059 safe distance, the men observed what would later 00:15:33.059 --> 00:15:36.580 be dubbed the Freiburg Schrieker as it folded 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:39.860 its wings back around its body and stood motionless 00:15:39.860 --> 00:15:43.360 in front of the mine. The miners reportedly began 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.639 to busy themselves with cleaning up outside the 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:49.139 mine. Oh, they are Germans. They just got at 00:15:49.139 --> 00:15:53.639 work. hoping that the shrieker would go away. 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:57.480 It is unclear why they did not report the beast 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.399 to the local authorities. After waiting for what 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.000 seemed like an hour, at approximately 8am the 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.679 miners were startled by a massive subterranean 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.700 explosion which rocked the mine and shook the 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:14.919 very ground on which they stood. They rushed 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.740 to the mine's entrance to discover the shrieker 00:16:17.740 --> 00:16:20.840 was gone and a huge plume of smoke and flame 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.460 bellowed from the entrance of the mine. When 00:16:23.460 --> 00:16:26.039 the smoke and flame died down, the officials 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.960 were able to examine the mine. It was determined 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.919 that all 36 miners, should they have been at 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.399 their designated posts, would have perished. 00:16:35.769 --> 00:16:38.889 This has led some investigators to suggest that 00:16:38.889 --> 00:16:42.169 the Freiburg Shrieker appeared that day to prevent 00:16:42.169 --> 00:16:44.909 the men from entering the mine and in the process 00:16:44.909 --> 00:16:48.049 saved their lives. Some researchers have made 00:16:48.049 --> 00:16:50.629 the link between the Freiburg Shrieker and such 00:16:50.629 --> 00:16:53.929 winged beasts as the Blackbird of Chernobyl and 00:16:53.929 --> 00:16:57.220 the Mothman. All creatures which have been sighted 00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:59.740 before disasters and are thought to actually 00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:03.320 be the same entity believed to be an omen of 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.160 disasters of which to come. I had never heard 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.539 of the Blackbird of Chernobyl. Neither have I, 00:17:08.539 --> 00:17:11.279 actually. So that's going on the list. That is 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:13.680 definitely going on the list. Haunted nuclear 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:17.000 reactors. Oh, that's going on the list, too. 00:17:17.850 --> 00:17:21.789 But that is Mothman, my beloved. Yeah, I did 00:17:21.789 --> 00:17:24.569 not know there was a German Mothman. I did not 00:17:24.569 --> 00:17:27.410 know so either. It is unique, particularly in 00:17:27.410 --> 00:17:30.269 this case, that this weird sighting corresponds 00:17:30.269 --> 00:17:32.710 to like a significant event and people being 00:17:32.710 --> 00:17:37.130 saved. It's also very weird that he just stands 00:17:37.130 --> 00:17:39.730 there and screams. Yeah, he's like, don't go 00:17:39.730 --> 00:17:42.509 in there. Yeah, and he's really keeping them 00:17:42.509 --> 00:17:46.349 out. But like usually paranormal things are not 00:17:46.349 --> 00:17:49.869 things that just stick around. Yeah. And just 00:17:49.869 --> 00:17:52.349 stand there. This one was like, hey, no, don't 00:17:52.349 --> 00:17:55.269 go in there. You just fuck off right now from 00:17:55.269 --> 00:17:59.369 going in there. He's going to scream. He's being 00:17:59.369 --> 00:18:02.809 a hero and definitely not a Tommy knocker because 00:18:02.809 --> 00:18:05.630 he definitely saved their lives and they're all 00:18:05.630 --> 00:18:08.670 alive and was definitely seen today. Probably. 00:18:08.910 --> 00:18:12.420 Maybe not. I made that up. It's the 70s. It's 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:14.640 like 50 years above. Quite a few of them are 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.039 probably dead at this point. Yeah. But not due 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.440 to an explosion in a mine, I hope. Probably. 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.099 I mean, we're led to believe. Can you imagine 00:18:23.099 --> 00:18:26.359 surviving one explosion in a mine and dying in 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.099 another one? Do you really call that surviving 00:18:29.099 --> 00:18:31.539 an explosion? Yes. I feel like that's avoiding 00:18:31.539 --> 00:18:35.710 an explosion. I mean at that point you're just 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:37.430 like... I mean technically I've survived like 00:18:37.430 --> 00:18:40.029 every explosion since I was born by not being 00:18:40.029 --> 00:18:42.509 anywhere near them. That is true. I've never 00:18:42.509 --> 00:18:45.250 heard of the Mothman's wings looking like a trench 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:47.670 coat. That is an interesting description and 00:18:47.670 --> 00:18:50.289 I can also kind of see how it got there but like 00:18:50.289 --> 00:18:51.609 also the first time we've heard that Do you know 00:18:51.609 --> 00:18:54.269 how fucking fast I would be out of there if I 00:18:54.269 --> 00:18:56.710 saw something spread wings like that? You mean 00:18:56.710 --> 00:18:59.049 you wouldn't be busy yourself with cleanup because 00:18:59.049 --> 00:19:03.190 the boss is like I would be so far gone by the 00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:06.940 time they were fully extended Cause that is the 00:19:06.940 --> 00:19:08.980 creepiest thing in the universe. Not only extended, 00:19:09.220 --> 00:19:12.359 but screaming at the decibel level of 50 people 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.319 and a railroad. I don't think it's the screaming 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.519 that would get me. It would be the wings. Yeah. 00:19:18.180 --> 00:19:21.740 The human sized wings. I'd be gone in an instant. 00:19:22.019 --> 00:19:24.039 You'd be like, wasn't Chelsea just right beside 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.259 me? And I'm driving away. Like gone, gone. Taking 00:19:27.259 --> 00:19:31.859 a personal day. Yeah. I'm never coming back. 00:19:32.589 --> 00:19:36.230 Don't get any ideas if Mothman is listening to 00:19:36.230 --> 00:19:39.750 this. You better not be at my work tomorrow. 00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:45.809 Lost Dutchman Mine in Arizona, United States. 00:19:46.390 --> 00:19:49.349 The Lost Dutchman Mine is one of the most famous 00:19:49.349 --> 00:19:52.829 lost treasures in American history. When I was 00:19:52.829 --> 00:19:55.950 writing this one, it kind of reminded me of the... 00:19:55.829 --> 00:19:58.369 Remember that one? It's not a mine. It was a 00:19:58.369 --> 00:20:01.170 cave, I think, that had all the Egyptian treasure 00:20:01.170 --> 00:20:04.849 in the Grand Canyon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, in the Grand 00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:07.730 Canyon. Yeah. That one seemed like a famous lost 00:20:07.730 --> 00:20:10.309 treasure. I can't remember if that one was real 00:20:10.309 --> 00:20:13.279 or not. Was it real? It's not. It was not. Okay. 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.500 No. No, the art, the stories from the day made 00:20:16.500 --> 00:20:18.559 it fairly clear it was not real. Right. Okay. 00:20:18.660 --> 00:20:20.900 I knew I was forgetting a part of that story. 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:24.200 Hidden somewhere in the Superstition Mountains 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.599 of Arizona, which I didn't even know was a thing. 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:29.279 It's a great name. It is a really great name. 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.099 I really like this for where the story's going. 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:37.180 This legendary gold mine has captured the imagination 00:20:37.180 --> 00:20:40.170 of treasure hunters for over a century. Many 00:20:40.170 --> 00:20:42.890 have tried to find it, but few have succeeded. 00:20:43.769 --> 00:20:46.230 The Tale of the Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine is 00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:50.670 a story woven with mystery and greed. The legend 00:20:50.670 --> 00:20:53.670 centers on Jacob Waltz. He was a German immigrant. 00:20:53.789 --> 00:20:58.150 Lots of German in the story. This episode, actually, 00:20:58.490 --> 00:21:01.890 it's the how is it described? Like it's the best 00:21:01.890 --> 00:21:05.390 language, I think, as one with the house. It's 00:21:05.390 --> 00:21:08.880 the purest language. Yeah. Billy Meyer, right. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:12.039 I always just think one arm. That's all. That's 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.720 how I identify him. He's a German immigrant mistakenly 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:20.140 called Dutchman for from Douche Douche. I don't 00:21:20.140 --> 00:21:22.640 know who. I don't know. I don't speak German. 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.119 I'm not sure how exactly you pronounce that. 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:28.359 Who allegedly discovered a gold rich mine in 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:32.079 the 19th century. Waltz kept its location secret, 00:21:32.099 --> 00:21:35.220 revealing only cryptic clues on his deathbed 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:39.839 in 1891. He claimed the mine was so well hidden 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.599 that quote you could drive a pack train over 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.759 it and never know it was there end quote. I don't 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.539 even know the implications of that. Waltz's clues 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:52.819 were vague quote from my mind you can see the 00:21:52.819 --> 00:21:55.519 military trail but from the trail you cannot 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.089 see my mind. The rays of the setting sun shine 00:21:59.089 --> 00:22:02.970 into the entrance and glitter with gold." Map, 00:22:03.250 --> 00:22:06.609 stone tablets, and supposed landmarks like Weaver's 00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:09.990 Needle have only deepened the mystery. The Superstition 00:22:09.990 --> 00:22:12.910 Mountains were considered sacred by the Apache, 00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:15.970 who warned that disturbing the land would invoke 00:22:15.970 --> 00:22:19.849 a curse. Spanish conquistadors ignored these 00:22:19.849 --> 00:22:22.670 warnings and were said to have vanished mysteriously. 00:22:23.009 --> 00:22:26.500 Some found mutilated and beheaded. Later, the 00:22:26.500 --> 00:22:30.039 Peralta family mined the area, but were ambushed 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:32.700 and killed, their spirits rumored to haunt the 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:35.980 range. Many who search for this legendary gold 00:22:35.980 --> 00:22:38.940 mine in the Superstition Mountains either disappear 00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:42.660 or go mad. Treasure hunters have long sought 00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:46.019 the mine, but many met grim fates. Adolf Ruth, 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.559 in 1931, vanished while searching. His skull 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.700 was later found with bullet holes. Multiple, 00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:57.799 I guess? Jesse Capen in 2009 disappeared during 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.259 an expedition. His remains were discovered years 00:23:00.259 --> 00:23:04.579 later. Others have been searching for the mine, 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:08.079 have encountered eerie lights, phantom footsteps, 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:12.440 ghostly figures in the mountains, reports of 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.700 shadowy figures, even skinwalker -like beings 00:23:15.700 --> 00:23:18.859 have been reported in and around the area. And 00:23:18.859 --> 00:23:20.980 that could technically be within their range, 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.809 correct? It is, yes, it definitely is. Because 00:23:23.809 --> 00:23:26.130 you know, they have shot colors on them or something 00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:28.509 and they can't leave the area. I believe. Well, 00:23:28.529 --> 00:23:30.630 yeah, it's only the area that they're used to 00:23:30.630 --> 00:23:33.609 was the whole thing. Yeah, it gives them power 00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:36.269 somehow. And it can't be zoo animals. I do specifically 00:23:36.269 --> 00:23:39.670 remember that or native animals. Which is why 00:23:39.670 --> 00:23:41.869 you don't hear about like weird exotic animals 00:23:41.869 --> 00:23:44.849 being imported to that region of the world specifically 00:23:44.849 --> 00:23:47.609 in like weird circumstances not to zoos. It would 00:23:47.609 --> 00:23:50.809 be weird if like the most like exotic animal 00:23:50.809 --> 00:23:54.589 zoo was in like small rural Nevada. Some Tates 00:23:54.589 --> 00:23:57.750 even mentioned strange creatures guarding the 00:23:57.750 --> 00:24:00.970 gold but do with that what you will because if 00:24:00.970 --> 00:24:03.890 it was guarding the gold then you know it'd be 00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:06.049 standing where the mine was and it'd be weird 00:24:06.049 --> 00:24:08.710 to find. You think it's a Tommy knocker? Could 00:24:08.710 --> 00:24:10.809 be. So that if anybody sees the treasure, they 00:24:10.809 --> 00:24:13.329 see a Tommy knocker and they die? You know, that 00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:17.470 would really be a smart thing to do. If I ever 00:24:17.470 --> 00:24:20.410 had something in which I really wanted no one 00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:22.789 to find, I would have to find a Tommy knocker. 00:24:22.950 --> 00:24:25.029 Well, but then you got to communicate with a 00:24:25.029 --> 00:24:26.849 Tommy knocker, which probably inevitably means 00:24:26.849 --> 00:24:28.650 you're going to see the Tommy knocker and die. 00:24:29.190 --> 00:24:31.250 Yeah, I wonder if they have like, you know how 00:24:31.250 --> 00:24:34.170 you get leprechauns with lucky charms? They have 00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:35.829 to have something like that and you just put 00:24:35.829 --> 00:24:38.349 those out. I don't know why, but instead of Lucky 00:24:38.349 --> 00:24:40.269 Charms, I thought you were going to say leprosy. 00:24:40.589 --> 00:24:42.690 Don't know why. It just kind of felt like it 00:24:42.690 --> 00:24:46.029 was the natural progression. You know how our 00:24:46.029 --> 00:24:49.369 favorite person always thinks there's synchronicities 00:24:49.369 --> 00:24:51.450 and things that aren't synchronicities. This 00:24:51.450 --> 00:24:54.329 one actually is because leprosy has come up a 00:24:54.329 --> 00:24:57.490 few times this week, and now you're saying leprosy 00:24:57.490 --> 00:25:00.150 right now. So it's not a good synchronicity, 00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:03.619 but it is still a synchronicity. I don't know 00:25:03.619 --> 00:25:06.460 why it's come up so much this week, but alas. 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.140 That brings us to our last one, which is the 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:13.779 Wabana ore mine on Belle Island, Newfoundland. 00:25:13.980 --> 00:25:16.880 Have you heard of Belle Island before? Yeah, 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:19.500 I have. There's an entire series about that one 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:22.980 on our podcast. Not on our podcast is on. I think 00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:26.180 it was a Discovery Channel. Really? OK, I never 00:25:26.180 --> 00:25:29.240 heard about it before. And apparently I need 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.119 to make sure. Is this the one with the potentially 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.440 it's a mine, but nobody really knows for sure 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.500 and they can never get to the bottom of it? No, 00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:39.900 it's definitely a mine. Oh, are you talking about? 00:25:40.339 --> 00:25:42.779 Oh, I know what when you're talking about the 00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:47.140 curse of Oak Island, you're thinking of Oak Island. 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.740 OK, then never mind. Yes. OK, so you've never 00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:51.980 heard of it. You've never heard of the island. 00:25:52.460 --> 00:25:55.339 OK, I potentially have not. Newfoundland. It's 00:25:55.339 --> 00:25:57.599 literally right off the coast of Newfoundland. 00:25:57.900 --> 00:26:02.940 You can it's like it's right there as you gather 00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:05.210 from what I'm saying. It's apparently, which 00:26:05.210 --> 00:26:07.750 is hard to do, I don't know how many islands 00:26:07.750 --> 00:26:11.049 there are in North America, apparently the most 00:26:11.049 --> 00:26:13.829 haunted island in North America. It took me a 00:26:13.829 --> 00:26:16.190 little bit to actually look into what's going 00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:19.930 on at the mine because so much stuff came up 00:26:19.930 --> 00:26:23.269 for what's going on on Belle Island. It's a shitload. 00:26:23.650 --> 00:26:26.670 It needs its own episode. Now I want to go to 00:26:26.670 --> 00:26:29.369 Belle Island for a little bit and then leave. 00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:33.680 The Wabana iron ore mines began around the turn 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.640 of the 20th century. The mines included six shafts 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.720 and operated for 71 years. The mines closed in 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:46.880 June 1966 after producing 79 million tons of 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.619 iron ore. For that mine, that seems like a lot. 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:54.240 It had a huge role in the wars. Lots of war history 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:57.170 going on with it as well. There were tragic mining 00:26:57.170 --> 00:26:59.950 accidents that led to the haunting here. Ghost 00:26:59.950 --> 00:27:03.089 miners are said to be seen both inside and outside 00:27:03.089 --> 00:27:06.549 the sealed mines. Some even say that at 5pm, 00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:09.109 when it was time for a shift change, a whole 00:27:09.109 --> 00:27:11.890 stream of ghostly miners have been seen entering 00:27:11.890 --> 00:27:14.829 and exiting. There are numerous tales of people 00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:17.670 seeing phantom miners down there in the darkness, 00:27:17.930 --> 00:27:21.009 as well as suddenly finding white crosses etched 00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:23.730 into the stone where there were none moments 00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:27.029 before. The white crosses were used by miners 00:27:27.029 --> 00:27:29.990 as a way of honouring their fallen, making it 00:27:29.990 --> 00:27:32.349 seem as if they were trying to communicate to 00:27:32.349 --> 00:27:35.069 the living from beyond the grave. Besides the 00:27:35.069 --> 00:27:38.049 shadow figures and mysteriously appearing crosses, 00:27:38.450 --> 00:27:41.230 visitors have heard muffled, disembodied whispering 00:27:41.230 --> 00:27:44.970 or footsteps, felt an icy wind rush past and 00:27:44.970 --> 00:27:48.170 often there is a dreadful feeling of being watched. 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.460 Shadow figures are often sighted and phantom 00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:53.819 screams can be heard coming from the mine. I 00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:56.460 almost feel this is a phase worse than like having 00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:59.559 to haunt a graveyard. Like having to haunt the 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.039 place that you worked and you're like, God, I 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.519 just want to get out of here and nope. you're 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.359 just gonna keep working even after you die yeah 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.519 uh you're right actually that is worse than like 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.160 a graveyard or like a haunted house or something 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.259 because you're at least you get to talk to different 00:28:15.259 --> 00:28:18.319 people at a graveyard at a mine site those are 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.019 the people that you worked with there was probably 00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:22.279 that guy you didn't like but you had to make 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.640 small talk with yeah or the guy that was at a 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:31.039 cold plate concert with that age yeah it's so 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:35.430 embarrassing That would be like him having to 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:40.170 haunt Coldplay concerts once he dies. But that 00:28:40.170 --> 00:28:42.650 still sounds better than having to haunt a mine. 00:28:43.470 --> 00:28:46.450 Yeah. No, it does actually. You're right. That 00:28:46.450 --> 00:28:49.410 is a fate worse than death, I think, is dying 00:28:49.410 --> 00:28:52.170 at work and having to be at work for the rest 00:28:52.170 --> 00:28:55.049 of your life. That just brings a whole new level 00:28:55.049 --> 00:28:58.269 of empathy to them. Like I said, there is a military 00:28:58.269 --> 00:29:02.259 angle to this. some believe secret cold war experiments 00:29:02.259 --> 00:29:05.440 took place here possibly opening portals or time 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.920 slips as witnesses claim to lose hours or feel 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.559 disconnected in certain mind sections i don't 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.759 know that that's necessarily like cold war experiments 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.059 it could be something more paranormal than that 00:29:17.059 --> 00:29:20.539 but there are more military angles to it than 00:29:20.539 --> 00:29:24.259 not because of the war history that is in this 00:29:24.259 --> 00:29:26.420 place. I feel like it would be a really good 00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:29.960 episode to dive into more. So and I just wanted 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.380 to talk a little bit about it just to give you 00:29:32.380 --> 00:29:34.720 guys something to look forward to when we eventually 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:39.400 do this episode. April 2nd, 1978, a powerful 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.819 and unexplained explosion shook Bell Island, 00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:46.500 Newfoundland and Labrador, causing blinding flashes, 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.019 deafening thunder and electrical damage. It's 00:29:50.019 --> 00:29:53.099 known as the Belle Island Boom and the blast 00:29:53.099 --> 00:29:56.599 was so strong it registered on seismographs and 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.339 drew international attention including visits 00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:02.279 from Canadian military, Soviet officials and 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.420 mysterious U .S. personnel allegedly from Los 00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:08.880 Alamos. Theories range from rare atmospheric 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.180 phenomena like ball lightning to electromagnetic 00:30:12.180 --> 00:30:15.680 amplification from abandoned iron ore mines. 00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:19.039 We just said that one. Some locals attributed 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.880 it to the island's haunted history while others 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.259 linked it to sky quakes and global reports of 00:30:25.259 --> 00:30:28.480 strange booms. What's a skyquake? I have no idea. 00:30:28.900 --> 00:30:31.920 They sound common. Yeah it does. Like we should 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.779 know what it is at the very least. Fueling speculation 00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:38.599 about secret weapons and warfare or extraterrestrial 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:43.089 activity. Despite investigations, no definitive 00:30:43.089 --> 00:30:46.309 explanation has ever been found for this boom, 00:30:46.549 --> 00:30:49.910 leaving the Belle Island boom a lasting Canadian 00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:53.150 mystery filled with science, folklore and conspiracy. 00:30:53.470 --> 00:30:56.349 And that's how I'm going to end off this episode 00:30:56.349 --> 00:30:59.009 with something that is not even mine related, 00:30:59.289 --> 00:31:02.029 but related to a place that has a mine there 00:31:02.029 --> 00:31:04.910 and is very haunted. Wikipedia says that it's 00:31:04.910 --> 00:31:07.859 attributed to a lightning super bolt. Which I 00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:10.700 didn't even know was a thing either. Oh, coast 00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:13.259 to coast am actually just posted a video was 00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:15.519 where I saw it. It probably came from another 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.799 source, but somebody in Alberta captured ball 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.769 lightning on film. No. Yeah, and it's pretty 00:31:23.769 --> 00:31:26.109 crazy because I thought that everyone was just 00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:28.470 making it up the ball lightning is a thing. Oh, 00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:30.470 yeah five days ago Okay, I'm gonna have to take 00:31:30.470 --> 00:31:32.990 a look at that. Yeah pretty cool thing, but yeah, 00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:35.630 it's a podcast So you can't watch it here. So 00:31:35.630 --> 00:31:38.250 if you want narrated to you guys we were more 00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:43.490 than happy to It sounds like an easy job But 00:31:43.490 --> 00:31:47.150 yeah, those are my however many number of points 00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:50.650 about mines some mine adjacent some actually 00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:54.170 about being in the mines yeah and i've learned 00:31:54.170 --> 00:31:57.289 a lot about mines it made me think what was what's 00:31:57.289 --> 00:31:59.009 really the difference between a mine and a tunnel 00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:01.630 but they're different don't know why definitely 00:32:01.630 --> 00:32:06.509 well a tunnel is a means of transportation i 00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:09.069 think is if i was to come up with something on 00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:13.750 the fly a mine is a mean of extracting resources 00:32:13.750 --> 00:32:17.519 yeah i guess a tunnel a mine could turn into 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.759 a tunnel? I don't know if a tunnel can turn into 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.759 a mine, can it? Yes, it could. I guess if you 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.640 were like... If you started digging into the 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.099 wall potentially and found something. Like they 00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:30.339 started the tunnel and they found gold. Yeah, 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.680 then it tunnel becomes mine. I don't think they 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.420 exist together though. I don't think they can. 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.779 I think they could. No, no, I don't think a mine... 00:32:40.779 --> 00:32:43.440 You have to keep them separate. Yep, it has. 00:32:43.819 --> 00:32:45.759 I think the whole regulation side of the mining 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.900 thing might make force you to keep it separate. 00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:51.920 Yep. Now, back in the Tommy knocker days, no 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.500 regulation. But now we're in the era of mine 00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:59.400 robots. 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