WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:13.500 us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:13.500 --> 00:00:15.740 to Journey to the Fringe, where we join this 00:00:15.740 --> 00:00:19.420 episode already in progress. Now we finally get 00:00:19.420 --> 00:00:21.899 to the part where they're talking about the Iraqi 00:00:21.899 --> 00:00:24.960 Stargate Which is I think what we all thought 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.559 I would be doing at least when I started this 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:29.559 episode This is where I thought I would be but 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:32.579 it's not we have so many places to go still But 00:00:32.579 --> 00:00:35.679 we are actually gonna get to the Iraqi Stargate 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:38.259 part now. I'm glad we're starting this episode 00:00:38.259 --> 00:00:45.259 by getting back Yeah If there is a Stargate existing 00:00:45.259 --> 00:00:47.899 in southern Iraq that will play a role in such 00:00:47.899 --> 00:00:51.100 a prophesied return of the gods, then it is most 00:00:51.100 --> 00:00:53.759 likely that clandestine government organizations 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.659 that greatly influence or control the Bush administration 00:00:56.659 --> 00:00:58.920 are aware of the existence and the role of the 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.979 Stargate. Iraq's President Hussein is most likely 00:01:01.979 --> 00:01:04.879 also aware of such a Stargate's existence, as 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.799 might be inferred by his architectural project 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.939 intent on reviving the grandeur of early Mesopotamia 00:01:10.939 --> 00:01:13.260 civilizations and cementing his place as the 00:01:13.260 --> 00:01:15.780 restorer of Iraq's glory. More significantly, 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.879 his permission for a German team of archaeologists 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.739 to resume excavations in the Sumerian city of 00:01:21.739 --> 00:01:24.060 Uruk. The knowledge of a buried stargate may 00:01:24.060 --> 00:01:26.400 also be part of the reason why the German government 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.359 has been publicly opposed to a US preemptive 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.040 war. If in fact both the Hussein regime and the 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:33.840 Bush administration believe, then there most 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.980 likely exists a race to gain access to it and 00:01:36.980 --> 00:01:39.319 to control it. William Henry's thesis is that 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.000 this is indeed the political opinion of the Turk. 00:01:41.900 --> 00:01:44.400 conflict in Iraq. There's a few things in that 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.180 paragraph I need to go back to. First and foremost, 00:01:47.500 --> 00:01:50.280 it's clearly a Stargate because Saddam Hussein 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.879 said he's going to revive the grandeur of early 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.700 Mesopotamian civilization. Clearly that's a Stargate. 00:01:56.859 --> 00:02:00.000 It is past glory. Yes, clearly a Stargate. Definitely 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.939 a Stargate. If I've ever heard a Stargate referred 00:02:02.939 --> 00:02:06.900 to, that was it. Is that not just make America 00:02:06.900 --> 00:02:10.219 great again? It's just what dictators say is 00:02:10.219 --> 00:02:12.680 we need to restore ourselves to our past glory. 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:15.360 Oh absolutely, but that's also what you say when 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.319 you have a stargate. It's not not what you say 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.539 when you have a stargate, but it's also what 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:23.560 dictators say they need to bring themselves back 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:26.180 to a past glory. Both could be right, and he's 00:02:26.180 --> 00:02:29.159 not wrong in saying that he has a stargate because 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.500 that's probably exactly what I would say if I 00:02:31.500 --> 00:02:33.800 had a stargate, but I would also probably say 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.240 it if I was a dictator and didn't have a stargate. 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.840 Fair enough, because you'd pretend to have a 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.439 stargate if you Exactly. If a team of archaeologists 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.979 was close to unearthing a Stargate, yeah, think 00:02:46.979 --> 00:02:49.479 Saddam Hussein's gonna let him be German. No, 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.139 he's definitely not just gonna allude to it in 00:02:52.139 --> 00:02:54.719 speeches either, probably. That's one of those 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.180 things, kind of like if you develop a nuke, you 00:02:57.180 --> 00:02:59.319 say you have a nuke, not that you're going to 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.580 make your country great again. Yeah. You're going 00:03:01.580 --> 00:03:04.520 to say, I have a Stargate, don't fuck with me. 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:06.639 Yeah, you know the other thing I'm thinking of 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:10.800 is how great the time before 2012 was for... 00:03:10.699 --> 00:03:14.340 12 conspiracy theories and all of the stuff that's 00:03:14.340 --> 00:03:17.139 going on. That was a nice time. It really was. 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.819 Totally unrelated. I just, I'm just thinking 00:03:19.819 --> 00:03:22.039 about it. It might have just been that we were 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.240 in our teens to early 20s years in that time 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.879 span. I was very receptive of it. It may have 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.300 molded me into this person that's sitting here 00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.800 today. Not Stephen Greer. Let me be clear. It 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.199 is really good that we need to address that. 00:03:36.259 --> 00:03:38.400 I also haven't said that and I need to address 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:41.340 Barry specifically. Leaving Greer is not the 00:03:41.340 --> 00:03:45.240 reason I got into this position. Stargates though, 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.580 maybe. It might have been a little. Potentially. 00:03:48.860 --> 00:03:50.939 It might have been a little. Anyhow, I just needed 00:03:50.939 --> 00:03:53.879 to address, he doesn't defend this position at 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.560 all. Oh yeah, there was a German team of archaeologists 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.120 there. Yeah. And Saddam said, we're going to 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.120 make Iraq great again. Holy shit, Chelsea. That's 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.139 a little worrisome. No, it's Maiga. Sorry, I 00:04:09.139 --> 00:04:12.000 was gonna say it was Maya, but it's make Iraq 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.520 great again. We forgot how to spell that. I know, 00:04:15.699 --> 00:04:18.480 but it was almost the Maya calendar right there. 00:04:19.259 --> 00:04:21.980 It's 2012 all over again. It was the Maiga calendar. 00:04:23.540 --> 00:04:26.360 It's the same thing at this point. Nobody knows 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.920 what's happening. But everybody's real excited 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.980 for that time, but also they don't want it to 00:04:30.980 --> 00:04:32.899 come because they're making so much money off. 00:04:32.939 --> 00:04:35.300 It's just almost exactly like what's happening 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:37.360 right now. But not quite, and that is going to 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.220 come up at the end of the episode, Chelsea. Oh 00:04:39.220 --> 00:04:41.420 good. I hope it does because I have comments 00:04:41.420 --> 00:04:43.100 if it's what I think it's going to be about. 00:04:43.220 --> 00:04:45.199 From the perspective of the Bush administration, 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.540 control of the Sumerian Stargate would enable 00:04:47.540 --> 00:04:50.360 clandestine government organizations to continue 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.079 their global campaign of non -disclosure of the 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.000 ET present. How the Stargate is going to help 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.540 them there, I don't know. Is that a direct quote 00:04:57.540 --> 00:05:00.839 from the Bush administration? This is cited, 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.019 so I can look up they are talking about here. 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.639 Is this what they whispered into George Bush's 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.839 ear when we thought he was being told about the 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.879 9 -11 attack as the meme? It could have been. 00:05:13.139 --> 00:05:16.899 Yes, there's a Stargate in Iraq. Stargate is 00:05:16.899 --> 00:05:20.519 being reopened. The citation for this says, for 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:24.220 more discussion of this non -disclosure, CM Sala, 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:28.379 the need for exopolitics. Okay, so. I really 00:05:28.379 --> 00:05:30.939 like that citation. Okay. If you want to learn 00:05:30.939 --> 00:05:35.060 more about the Let's read more. I'm not going 00:05:35.060 --> 00:05:37.279 to explain it to you here. Okay. I'm going to 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.540 assume that the Bush administration did not comment 00:05:40.540 --> 00:05:44.060 on the Stargate situation directly. At no point 00:05:44.060 --> 00:05:46.759 after this happens, is there any evidence of 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.339 a Stargate? Is there any discussion on a actual 00:05:50.339 --> 00:05:54.259 government level that there's a Stargate? But 00:05:54.259 --> 00:05:56.720 we're going to keep reading this as if he has 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.720 a good position. I'm gonna say we're gonna be, 00:05:59.860 --> 00:06:01.399 this might be a surprise at the end. Because 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:03.740 Chelsea, importantly, you're not supposed to 00:06:03.740 --> 00:06:07.199 diss him. This is his thing. Who? You have to 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.259 sell us, Michael, sell us. Okay, okay. We've 00:06:09.259 --> 00:06:11.560 talked about so many people. You can't. It's 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.339 very important that you just take what he says 00:06:14.339 --> 00:06:18.259 as gospel and keep going. Like that's the entire 00:06:18.259 --> 00:06:21.519 starting point of exo -politics, is you have 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.220 to assume everything is correct and move forward 00:06:24.220 --> 00:06:25.860 with it. I don't know that we've talked about 00:06:25.860 --> 00:06:28.639 anybody that that wasn't their stance. But they 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:33.290 don't say it! They don't say it. That's true. 00:06:33.589 --> 00:06:36.870 It's an assumption. Okay, touche. Touche, Michael 00:06:36.870 --> 00:06:39.490 Salla. I did not question it. This is strongly 00:06:39.490 --> 00:06:42.170 implied by the Bush administration's penchant 00:06:42.170 --> 00:06:45.509 for secrecy and overturning many of the Freedom 00:06:45.509 --> 00:06:48.250 of Information initiative from the earlier Clinton 00:06:48.250 --> 00:06:50.430 administration. Oh, that was the answer to my 00:06:50.430 --> 00:06:52.850 question. Sorry. I should have just waited one 00:06:52.850 --> 00:06:55.329 second. Okay, perfect. Control of the Stargate 00:06:55.329 --> 00:06:57.589 in addition to any other Stargate that may have 00:06:57.589 --> 00:07:00.110 been established in the capital's other civilizations, 00:07:00.410 --> 00:07:04.149 examples Egypt, Inca, and Aztec, would presumably 00:07:04.149 --> 00:07:06.970 give clandestine government organizations greater 00:07:06.970 --> 00:07:10.470 leverage with ET races that are presently interacting 00:07:10.470 --> 00:07:13.449 with the planet, or are predicted to arrive on 00:07:13.449 --> 00:07:16.509 the scene in some event associated with the prophesied 00:07:16.509 --> 00:07:18.970 return of the god. At the very least, control 00:07:18.970 --> 00:07:21.310 of the Sumerian Stargate would allow clandestine 00:07:21.310 --> 00:07:23.750 government organizations to dictate the pace 00:07:23.750 --> 00:07:26.370 of global transformation that ET races almost 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:28.410 do introduce to the Earth with their advanced 00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:30.189 technology. technologies, superior knowledge, 00:07:30.490 --> 00:07:32.829 and heightened psychic abilities. On the part 00:07:32.829 --> 00:07:34.949 of the Hussein regime, control of the Stargate 00:07:34.949 --> 00:07:38.110 would allow him to fulfill prophecy by facilitating 00:07:38.110 --> 00:07:41.009 the return of an advanced race of T's, the elite 00:07:41.009 --> 00:07:44.069 Anunnaki. President Hussein probably imagines 00:07:44.069 --> 00:07:47.329 that in return for his loyalty to the elite Anunnaki, 00:07:47.389 --> 00:07:49.949 he would be rewarded with a position of great 00:07:49.949 --> 00:07:53.350 global authority who would solve all humanity's 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:56.329 problems and end the rule of clandestine government 00:07:56.329 --> 00:07:58.839 organizations perpetuated disclosure of the ET 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.720 present. Weirdly enough, he's coming off very 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:07.259 pro -Iraq. Yeah, it really gave a different feel 00:08:07.259 --> 00:08:09.819 at the end there. You say Ed, it keeps going, 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:12.560 Chelsea. Well, in this moment here, it gives 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.319 a different feel. I don't know. It gave a very 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.860 weird vibe. Yeah, right there. Where he's like, 00:08:17.860 --> 00:08:21.019 yeah, we're pro Iraq. Significantly, European 00:08:21.019 --> 00:08:22.800 governments such as Germany and perhaps even 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.600 France and Russia may be giving themselves greater 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.319 leverage to future control of Stargate by offering 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.220 diplomatic cover for the Hussein regime as a 00:08:31.220 --> 00:08:34.379 quid pro quo for allowing the resumption of our 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:36.980 archaeological digging in Uruk. These governments 00:08:36.980 --> 00:08:40.059 and the clandestine organizations associated 00:08:40.059 --> 00:08:42.259 with them that have access to the knowledge over 00:08:42.259 --> 00:08:45.039 the ET presence most likely have deep suspicion 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.379 over the willingness of the US to share information 00:08:47.379 --> 00:08:50.120 and control over the future of the Sumerian Stargate. 00:08:50.460 --> 00:08:53.159 Sitchin's thesis of an ancient ET presence in 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.539 Sumer combined with the notion of a variety of 00:08:55.539 --> 00:08:58.620 ET transportation device described by other authors 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:01.519 in their research of ancient civilizations and 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.590 resumption of archaeological excavation in 2002. 00:09:04.850 --> 00:09:06.710 Give support to William Henry's thesis brigade 00:09:06.710 --> 00:09:09.350 that lies buried in the sands of southern Iraq. 00:09:09.470 --> 00:09:12.549 This provides important contextual information 00:09:12.549 --> 00:09:15.029 that is helpful in understanding the true motivations 00:09:15.029 --> 00:09:18.090 of the Bush administration on launching a preemptive 00:09:18.090 --> 00:09:20.429 attack on Iraq. I'm pretty convinced, I would 00:09:20.429 --> 00:09:22.870 say. This is a pretty thorough paper. It has 00:09:22.870 --> 00:09:25.750 a lot of history behind it. It's well researched. 00:09:25.909 --> 00:09:28.570 Why would I argue with it? Importantly, I also 00:09:28.570 --> 00:09:30.409 find it weird that they're talking about this 00:09:30.409 --> 00:09:33.509 ancient technology that's like so far past where 00:09:33.509 --> 00:09:37.289 we are that Iraq seems to have almost had. And 00:09:37.289 --> 00:09:40.710 do you consider Iraq advanced country in the 00:09:40.710 --> 00:09:43.350 grand scheme of things. You know I don't know 00:09:43.350 --> 00:09:46.889 a whole lot about Iraq and just off the little 00:09:46.889 --> 00:09:50.269 I know I would say no and that may be very biased. 00:09:50.269 --> 00:09:52.649 Even before our invasion where we put them back 00:09:52.649 --> 00:09:55.950 50 years I would never say that they were more 00:09:55.950 --> 00:09:58.950 advanced than the US and I do think that the 00:09:58.950 --> 00:10:02.809 invasion of Iraq in both 94 and 2002 proved that. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.639 Yeah, I would say that's correct. Absolutely. 00:10:05.860 --> 00:10:08.679 So I just don't understand this. I don't know. 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:12.539 I mean, the civilization that goes like as far 00:10:12.539 --> 00:10:16.200 back as humanity itself ish. Well, not only that, 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.299 it's linked to Atlantis. I'm sorry, I don't think 00:10:18.299 --> 00:10:20.399 it comes up in this article, but he says, oh 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.360 yeah, no, the Stargate is linked to Atlantis. 00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:24.899 That's a big thing that I don't know if it gets 00:10:24.899 --> 00:10:27.820 stated in this article, but is something that 00:10:27.820 --> 00:10:30.509 Michael Salla does mention. Yes, not in here. 00:10:31.009 --> 00:10:34.929 My Bible history may be a little rusty, but Gardening 00:10:34.929 --> 00:10:38.789 even would go back to the creation of humanity. 00:10:38.909 --> 00:10:42.919 We know that it goes well past there, but. the 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:46.820 biblical creation of humanity at least yeah and 00:10:46.820 --> 00:10:49.740 that's no you are correct technically it is if 00:10:49.740 --> 00:10:52.000 you're a christian you believe garden of eden 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:55.179 is where man first came to clearly it goes back 00:10:55.179 --> 00:10:58.419 far far far beyond there but that's kind of a 00:10:58.419 --> 00:11:01.820 cool thing in the fact that that is there. So 00:11:01.820 --> 00:11:03.980 to get back to my point instead of just ending 00:11:03.980 --> 00:11:07.580 there, you would think are they more advanced 00:11:07.580 --> 00:11:10.179 than the U .S.? Probably not, but the history 00:11:10.179 --> 00:11:13.620 goes back so much longer and that is something. 00:11:14.009 --> 00:11:16.570 Yeah, but that's like every part of the world. 00:11:16.590 --> 00:11:21.710 That's true. Well, no, except white people in 00:11:21.710 --> 00:11:24.950 North America. North America makes a point of 00:11:24.950 --> 00:11:27.470 deleting its history that goes further back than 00:11:27.470 --> 00:11:29.769 a certain point. Okay, that's the same thing 00:11:29.769 --> 00:11:31.649 as I said, except white people in North America. 00:11:31.789 --> 00:11:34.929 You're absolutely right on that one. So that's 00:11:34.929 --> 00:11:37.129 my ignorance showing on that one. So I don't 00:11:37.129 --> 00:11:39.590 know exactly what I was trying to say. That's 00:11:39.590 --> 00:11:41.289 okay, we can just keep going, there's still a 00:11:41.289 --> 00:11:44.110 lot to read. It may be argued that the Bush administration 00:11:44.110 --> 00:11:46.990 and the Hussein regime are both in a race against 00:11:46.990 --> 00:11:49.330 time to gain access and control of the Stargate 00:11:49.330 --> 00:11:52.029 in the ruins of Uruk or some other location in 00:11:52.029 --> 00:11:54.460 Iraq. before the prophesied return of the Anunnaki. 00:11:54.620 --> 00:11:57.259 At the moment, a stalemate exists. Hussein controls 00:11:57.259 --> 00:11:59.620 the grounds in southern Iraq and is permitting 00:11:59.620 --> 00:12:01.960 the German -led excavation at Uruk. While the 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.620 U .S.-led coalition controls the sky and is monitoring, 00:12:04.779 --> 00:12:07.120 the Bush administration wants control of Iraqi 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.840 territory to take control of excavation of Uruk 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.419 to uncover its buried Stargate. In contrast, 00:12:12.539 --> 00:12:15.139 Hussein wants to find and activate the Stargate 00:12:15.139 --> 00:12:17.500 for his greater glory, presumably the benefit 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:19.779 of humanity. I just want to state there too, 00:12:19.940 --> 00:12:22.620 they're weirdly assuming like the The only thing 00:12:22.620 --> 00:12:25.539 that can be gathered from the ruins is the Stargate. 00:12:25.740 --> 00:12:27.440 Like, that's the only thing they left behind, 00:12:27.500 --> 00:12:29.379 but they also had to leave behind because there 00:12:29.379 --> 00:12:32.580 was a cataclysm at the time. You gotta assume 00:12:32.580 --> 00:12:35.679 that could not be the only thing there. No, you 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.740 wouldn't think so. And I also want to add right 00:12:38.740 --> 00:12:42.379 here that this is a fairly detailed, completely 00:12:42.379 --> 00:12:46.679 made up history. I do love it. It's very institutionally 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.399 written. It is very much from Educana around. 00:12:49.620 --> 00:12:53.320 It's like really that are doing this really well 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.220 thought up. But also I find it weird that they're 00:12:56.220 --> 00:12:58.639 like it's either the US is going to go and take 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.980 the Stargate or Saddam is going to open it. Those 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:04.320 are the only options. Well, you see that now. 00:13:04.169 --> 00:13:07.850 But there's also other things. And also, I do 00:13:07.850 --> 00:13:10.610 need to say too, it does make sense how you're 00:13:10.610 --> 00:13:14.090 writing this as you have come to this point without 00:13:14.090 --> 00:13:17.389 having to critically analyze anything that got 00:13:17.389 --> 00:13:20.570 you to this point. No. Because that's how exo 00:13:20.570 --> 00:13:23.970 -politics works. Exactly. Oh, you can do whatever 00:13:23.970 --> 00:13:27.269 you want in exo -politics, I think, from my understanding 00:13:27.269 --> 00:13:30.850 of exo -politics. Is Calvin Ball a political 00:13:30.850 --> 00:13:34.190 commentary? To my point, exactly. this is so 00:13:34.190 --> 00:13:36.649 fucking detailed for something that's not like 00:13:42.289 --> 00:13:46.230 The primary evidentiary support for the above 00:13:46.230 --> 00:13:49.809 discussion is admittedly thin for conventional 00:13:49.809 --> 00:13:53.570 public policy experts, and may sound better suited 00:13:53.570 --> 00:13:56.210 to a fictional thriller than a serious public 00:13:56.210 --> 00:13:59.230 debate. From a conventional perspective, a scattered 00:13:59.230 --> 00:14:01.690 assortment of independent archaeological authors, 00:14:01.909 --> 00:14:05.450 radical exegetical interpretations of biblical 00:14:05.450 --> 00:14:08.389 texts, the writing of channels of ET knowledge. 00:14:08.649 --> 00:14:11.370 Speculative papers from astronomers hardly constitute 00:14:11.370 --> 00:14:14.850 a persuasive source of information for understanding 00:14:14.850 --> 00:14:17.629 the motivation of U .S. The prevailing explanation 00:14:17.629 --> 00:14:20.450 of a Bush administration as either to eradicating 00:14:20.450 --> 00:14:23.289 weapons of mass destruction and or being driven 00:14:23.289 --> 00:14:26.230 by oil interests and imperial ambitions would 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:29.789 predictably prevail for those unconvinced by 00:14:29.789 --> 00:14:33.289 the above sources. There is however some important 00:14:33.289 --> 00:14:36.659 circumstantial evidence which Lends plausibility 00:14:36.659 --> 00:14:39.679 to the Henry thesis of a Stargate as the true 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.980 focus of the Bush administration. The first piece 00:14:41.980 --> 00:14:44.759 of circumstantial evidence are the overwhelming 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.139 whistleblower testimonies confirming the existence 00:14:47.139 --> 00:14:50.360 of clandestine government organizations responsible 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.139 for suppressing public knowledge of an ET presence 00:14:54.139 --> 00:14:56.379 and which controls all official interactions 00:14:56.379 --> 00:14:59.000 with From an exo -political perspective, the 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.840 clandestine suppression of a contemporary ET 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.299 presence supports the conclusion there is also 00:15:05.299 --> 00:15:08.480 an active clandestine suppression of an ancient 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.399 ET presence which also has significant public 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.620 policy implications. So he just extrapolates 00:15:14.620 --> 00:15:17.460 fully from Stephen Greer. Yike. The second piece 00:15:17.460 --> 00:15:20.659 of circumstantial evidence is the powerful diplomatic 00:15:20.659 --> 00:15:23.820 support given by Germany to the Hussein regime 00:15:23.820 --> 00:15:26.919 in warning off a preemptive military strike. 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.320 So powerful has been the support that the U .S. 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.179 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld disparagingly 00:15:33.179 --> 00:15:36.000 referred to them as the Old Europe in response 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.179 to a reporter on January 22, 2003. If you're 00:15:39.179 --> 00:15:41.620 thinking of Europe as Germany and France, I don't. 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.279 I think that's old Europe. If you look at the 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.820 entire NATO Europe today, the center of gravity 00:15:46.820 --> 00:15:49.779 is shifting to the east and there are a lot of 00:15:49.779 --> 00:15:52.080 new members. Take the list of all the members 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.399 of NATO and all of those who have been invited 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.120 in recently. What is it? 26? Something like that. 00:15:57.220 --> 00:15:59.000 But you're right. Germany has been a problem. 00:15:59.059 --> 00:16:01.360 That's the quote that he's using. I don't think 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:05.019 you had to have just not wanted to invade Iraq 00:16:05.019 --> 00:16:07.200 because you thought they had a stargate that 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.740 would have benefited humanity. I think there 00:16:09.740 --> 00:16:13.299 were other reasons. Not that I can think of. 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:15.840 Rather than backtracking on what was a diplomatic 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.340 bombshell, the Bush administration has instead 00:16:18.340 --> 00:16:21.519 continued to go to extraordinary lengths to isolate 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.139 the German and French positions on Iraq. For 00:16:24.139 --> 00:16:26.340 example, the administration encouraged the leaders 00:16:26.340 --> 00:16:29.600 of Spain, Portugal, Italy, the UK, Hungary, Poland, 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.000 Denmark, and the Czech Republic to write letters 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.620 to the Wall Street Journal on January 30th that 00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:37.559 said, quote, the Iraqi regime represent a clear 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.340 threat to world security, end quote. Rather than 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.399 merely an intense diplomatic debate over different 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.519 policy positions on Iraq, the striking language 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.120 and positions taken in this debate suggest a 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.159 more fundamental conflict over issues hidden 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.419 from the public view. It is likely that there 00:16:54.419 --> 00:16:57.519 exists a factional struggle between clandestine 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.480 government organizations set up to deal with 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.799 the ET presence in the US. He has just completely 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:05.819 thrown out potential for like, oh no, it's about 00:17:05.819 --> 00:17:08.599 the oil. Like he has completely disregarded that. 00:17:08.700 --> 00:17:11.630 Oh, he is full on on the story like he's all 00:17:11.630 --> 00:17:13.950 in on it yeah it's one of those things i just 00:17:13.950 --> 00:17:17.549 love this about his extraction policy is we don't 00:17:17.549 --> 00:17:21.549 have to discuss anything that gets me to my final 00:17:21.549 --> 00:17:24.549 position we just have to discuss my final position 00:17:24.549 --> 00:17:27.569 okay like that's how he writes things and once 00:17:27.569 --> 00:17:29.509 we get to the end of this episode that's just 00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:32.690 like his lifestyle that he has chosen for himself, 00:17:33.210 --> 00:17:35.769 Chelsea. Oh, OK. I wouldn't put that outside 00:17:35.769 --> 00:17:38.289 of the realm of possibility for somebody that's 00:17:38.289 --> 00:17:40.910 saying things like this. The third piece of circumstantial 00:17:40.910 --> 00:17:44.089 evidence is the resumption of excavations of 00:17:44.089 --> 00:17:47.630 the first capital of Sumer Uruk by a German archaeological 00:17:47.630 --> 00:17:50.890 team in 2002. Given the prominence of Uruk and 00:17:50.890 --> 00:17:54.329 its likelihood as the site for a Sumerian stargate, 00:17:54.710 --> 00:17:57.509 then resumption of excavation raises questions 00:17:57.509 --> 00:17:59.849 over why they were resumed and what is being 00:17:59.849 --> 00:18:02.049 sought. Even that political tensions in Iraq 00:18:02.049 --> 00:18:05.509 have not significantly diminished since 2002. 00:18:05.690 --> 00:18:08.029 With it being a likely source of future military 00:18:08.029 --> 00:18:10.390 conflict with the US, it can be suggested that 00:18:10.390 --> 00:18:13.470 there are powerful hidden motivations for what 00:18:13.470 --> 00:18:15.750 on the surface appears to be a purely scientific 00:18:15.750 --> 00:18:18.609 dig on an ancient Sumerian capital. The fourth 00:18:18.609 --> 00:18:21.009 piece of circumstantial evidence was the destruction 00:18:21.009 --> 00:18:23.829 of the Space Shuttle Columbia during its final 00:18:23.829 --> 00:18:27.250 descent on February 1, 2003. At an approximate 00:18:27.250 --> 00:18:30.960 height of 38 miles and traveling at One of the 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.779 astronauts was the first Israeli in space, Colonel 00:18:33.779 --> 00:18:37.980 Ilan Raman from the Israeli Air Force. The destruction 00:18:37.980 --> 00:18:41.279 of the Columbia occurred 60 minutes before touchdown 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.920 when its fuel tanks would have been virtually 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:46.539 empty. A likely source of the shuttle's destruction, 00:18:46.740 --> 00:18:49.400 given the speed and height of the Columbia, would 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.359 have been some form of attack from an organization 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.960 or state possessing military well beyond most 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.700 nations. The likely cause would have been a clandestine 00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:02.960 government's organization that desired to send 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.460 an important message to its rival, the US, over 00:19:06.460 --> 00:19:09.460 the threatened preemptive attack on itself, Iraq. 00:19:09.619 --> 00:19:11.720 When all primary and circumstantial evidence 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.000 is gathered, what emerges is a very plausible 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.140 case that supports Henry's thesis of power struggled 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:19.740 at the heart of the ET presence and the continued 00:19:19.740 --> 00:19:22.559 clandestine suppression of ET -related information 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.160 and its full implications. The interpretation 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:26.859 of the motivation of the Bush administration 00:19:26.859 --> 00:19:30.099 in terms of the concerns raised in Bush's 2003 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:32.279 State of the Union address or the corporate and 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.539 imperial interests suggested by his critics such 00:19:34.539 --> 00:19:37.380 as Robert Fisk and Michael Lind. In all be described 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:40.019 as part of the surface layer of motivations driving 00:19:40.019 --> 00:19:42.220 the Bush administration, at a deeper level it 00:19:42.220 --> 00:19:46.119 is likely that there is great anxiety by clandestine 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:48.299 German and European governments who have gained 00:19:48.299 --> 00:19:51.500 access to the Sumerian Stargate or other ET technology 00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:54.380 buried in Uruk. Or if the Stargate were to somehow 00:19:54.380 --> 00:19:57.160 reactivate without clandestine government personnel 00:20:19.389 --> 00:20:23.509 That's his paper. Holy shit. There's policy implications 00:20:23.509 --> 00:20:25.630 and recommendations after this, but what do you 00:20:25.630 --> 00:20:29.750 think? lot to take in. That took like a week 00:20:29.750 --> 00:20:33.789 or so to read. Two weeks in the past. Yeah, two 00:20:33.789 --> 00:20:39.329 weeks to read. Wow, that was a well thought out 00:20:39.329 --> 00:20:42.990 exo -political paper. I think that's the best 00:20:42.990 --> 00:20:45.990 exo -political paper we've ever read. So does 00:20:45.990 --> 00:20:52.359 he at all address 9 -11? And what that has to 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.059 do with the Stargate. I won't say no. Okay. And 00:20:56.059 --> 00:20:58.059 you wouldn't think you would. To be fair. What 00:20:58.059 --> 00:20:59.839 does it have to do with the Stargate? The invasion 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.039 of Iraq has very little to do with them because 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:06.549 it has to do with Osama Bin Laden who is Anunnaki 00:21:06.549 --> 00:21:09.710 yeah of course no he's from Saudi Arabia and 00:21:09.710 --> 00:21:12.769 lived in Afghanistan both weirdly enough not 00:21:12.769 --> 00:21:16.130 part of Iraq interesting interesting I didn't 00:21:16.130 --> 00:21:18.970 actually know that until you just said that okay 00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:22.089 yeah just a weird little thing that kind of gets 00:21:22.089 --> 00:21:24.779 disregarded when we talk about the war Okay, 00:21:25.059 --> 00:21:27.240 no other thoughts. I guess that just kind of 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.279 blew my mind. I didn't know that. Fair enough. 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:31.740 We'll move into the policy implications and recommendations. 00:21:32.259 --> 00:21:35.500 If the exo -political perspective is a more accurate 00:21:35.500 --> 00:21:37.859 description of the motivations driving the Bush 00:21:37.859 --> 00:21:39.740 administration and pushing for a preemptive war, 00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:41.859 then the following policy recommendations can 00:21:41.859 --> 00:21:45.140 be made. First, the quality of evidence substantiating 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:48.599 a historic ET presence and clandestine government 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:50.700 cover -up has a significant degree of credit 00:21:50.700 --> 00:21:55.220 and persuasiveness. I just love that. If everything 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:58.299 I say is correct above and you don't fight it, 00:21:58.579 --> 00:22:01.279 then we can take it as fact and move forward 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:06.980 with it. I mean, he's not wrong. It is very significant 00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:11.799 and credible. He's not wrong. This supports the 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.339 creation of a new field of public policy, exopolitics, 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.680 which would study the historic ET presence in 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.079 terms of its implications for a public policy. 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.279 Fair enough. Yeah, I mean, you can't argue with 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:26.680 any of it so far. No, in fact, that's part of 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:31.039 his thesis is don't argue with it. And I won't 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.900 because he said that. Second, there is need to 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:36.000 promote official government disclosure of the 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.900 historic ET presence and or the impending return 00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:42.240 of these ET's and to make representative the 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.660 policy making process that has evolved in government 00:22:45.660 --> 00:22:48.319 responses to such information. Third, evidence 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.559 suggests that the present military preparations 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.859 for war against Iraq have little to do with weapons 00:22:53.859 --> 00:22:56.420 of mass destruction but are designed to perpetuate 00:22:56.420 --> 00:22:59.279 U .S. clandestine government control of information 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.220 the historic and present ET presence, such a 00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:05.680 preemptive war should therefore be stopped and 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.160 a resolution between the US -Iraq should be encouraged. 00:23:09.539 --> 00:23:11.880 Fourth, evidence suggests that the Iraq conflict 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.480 and the destruction of the Columbia space shuttle 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.259 mask a deep factional struggle between clandestine 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:20.839 government organizations associated with different 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:23.180 national governments. It is recommended that 00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:26.019 there is a public disclosure of these organizations 00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:29.210 and that these organizations accountable to elected 00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:32.329 public officials. The final policy recommendation 00:23:32.329 --> 00:23:35.549 is that there needs to be more efforts in determining 00:23:35.549 --> 00:23:38.289 the extent to which congressional insight is 00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:41.410 required for organizations created in different 00:23:41.410 --> 00:23:44.630 countries to deal with all aspects of ET presence, 00:23:44.930 --> 00:23:47.490 both past and present, and on the implications 00:23:47.490 --> 00:23:50.809 of a projected return of a race of ET. This paper 00:23:50.809 --> 00:23:53.490 suggests that the best mechanism for responding 00:23:53.490 --> 00:23:57.569 to the existence of ancient ET technology in 00:23:57.569 --> 00:24:00.609 the ancient Siberian capital of Uruk and or elsewhere 00:24:00.609 --> 00:24:03.589 is a willingness by major world governments and 00:24:03.589 --> 00:24:06.109 associated clandestine organizations to share 00:24:06.109 --> 00:24:08.930 information and control over these assets that 00:24:08.930 --> 00:24:13.089 are ET. A preemptive war conducted largely for 00:24:13.089 --> 00:24:16.089 the control of a Stargate in Uruk which pits 00:24:16.089 --> 00:24:19.049 the US and its allies against an Iraq which is 00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:21.910 passively supported by key European nations could 00:24:21.910 --> 00:24:25.269 be calamitous. If indeed the prophesied return 00:24:25.269 --> 00:24:28.500 signified an actual physical Event. involving 00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:31.740 the ancient ET race that played a role in the 00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:34.400 start of human civilization. Competing clandestine 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.299 government organizations struggling through a 00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:39.019 proxy war over the control of ancient ET technology 00:24:39.019 --> 00:24:41.779 in order to prepare for those events corresponding 00:24:41.779 --> 00:24:44.339 to the prophesied return would hardly send the 00:24:44.339 --> 00:24:48.039 best example of a mature human civilization responsible 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.259 enough to continue to exercise sovereignty over 00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:53.460 the Earth resources. The Columbia Space Shuttle 00:24:53.460 --> 00:24:56.359 may well have been a high -profile victim of 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.079 such a proxy war. war intended to send a message 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.460 to US -based clandestine organizations over the 00:25:02.460 --> 00:25:04.599 preemptive war, human sovereignty may therefore 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.019 be at stake at the very time where there exists 00:25:08.019 --> 00:25:11.339 an opportunity for a rapid movement forward in 00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:13.960 the evolutionary growth of human consciousness. 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.339 It is up to all humanity to decide how we respond 00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:20.700 to the challenge posed by clandestine organizations 00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:23.859 struggling over Iraq's historic resources to 00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:26.529 further their respective secret agenda. That's 00:25:26.529 --> 00:25:29.170 the end, except for one end note, I would like 00:25:29.170 --> 00:25:32.390 to thank my good friend Yazdi Kalegi for his 00:25:32.390 --> 00:25:34.809 insights on the Columbia Space Shuttle tragedy, 00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:37.769 and that's the end of the article. Holy shit. 00:25:38.029 --> 00:25:41.470 He is all over the frickin' map. But he has such 00:25:41.470 --> 00:25:45.309 a background behind him that he writes it well. 00:25:45.529 --> 00:25:48.710 You could believe it, based on how he's writing 00:25:48.710 --> 00:25:51.430 it, if you don't know how to critically read. 00:25:51.529 --> 00:25:54.710 Yeah, yeah, and like you said, he cites everything. 00:25:55.019 --> 00:25:58.299 Nicely and everything and it seems like he knows 00:25:58.299 --> 00:26:01.480 what he's talking about weirdly I actually see 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.420 and this is just an aside from this part It's 00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:07.599 weird that the conspiracy theorist in 2003 is 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.099 not pro -republican and right -wing No, it certainly 00:26:11.099 --> 00:26:13.420 took a shift, didn't it? He doesn't necessarily 00:26:13.420 --> 00:26:16.980 say he's anti -George Bush, but he's anti -George 00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:19.740 Bush in it. In my opinion, it's only been something 00:26:19.740 --> 00:26:22.880 that's come out in the last... Four years. Five 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.759 years, maybe. You know, it was COVID. It was 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:26.980 COVID where that kind of happened. It was COVID, 00:26:27.259 --> 00:26:38.410 wasn't it? Yep. For all of them. Yep. He wrote 00:26:38.410 --> 00:26:41.390 it, but also skipped over a ton of shit that 00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:44.349 he should have actually discussed and argued, 00:26:44.490 --> 00:26:47.609 which kinda bugs me a lot. Probably because there's 00:26:47.609 --> 00:26:50.170 some pretty big things that he missed. Not only 00:26:50.170 --> 00:26:53.009 big things he missed, just exopolitics assumes 00:26:53.009 --> 00:26:56.490 this, so we don't need to discuss this. He's 00:26:56.490 --> 00:26:59.809 the authority on exopolitics, so he's technically 00:26:59.809 --> 00:27:06.279 right. But that doesn't mean you're right and 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.160 we should actually discuss to get to the point 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.380 you get to. No, but he also said that you don't 00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:13.759 ask questions really, both of us. Yeah, fair 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.900 enough. Yeah, seems to be all tracking for me. 00:27:17.059 --> 00:27:19.640 So weirdly, Chelsea, I need you to remember a 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:24.059 week ago, which is I'll try my best. We're going 00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:26.759 back to the vice article because they interview 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:31.700 They interviewed him. Yeah, they got him for 00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:34.920 it. Fuck. Oh He was like, yeah, I'll do it. Oh, 00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:39.660 yeah. No, this guy is just like so open to Detention, 00:27:40.019 --> 00:27:41.759 okay before we get into the nitty -gritty. Sorry. 00:27:41.819 --> 00:27:43.980 This is back to the vice art before we get into 00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:46.539 the nitty -gritty I had to figure out if a stargate 00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:48.819 was just as cool as hollywood made it out to 00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:51.930 be quote, is kind of like instantaneous space 00:27:51.930 --> 00:27:55.569 time means of travel, where people are instantaneously 00:27:55.569 --> 00:27:58.569 transported from one area to another, end quote, 00:27:58.710 --> 00:28:01.309 said Salah. Oh, so he knows all about them. Yeah. 00:28:01.470 --> 00:28:04.210 He's not the authority. Stargate apparently found 00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:09.170 near in the Nasiriyah, a city about 370 kilometers 00:28:09.170 --> 00:28:11.609 southeast of Baghdad, in the ancient city of 00:28:11.609 --> 00:28:14.349 Ur. Within that city is the Great Ziggurat, a 00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:17.970 massive temple which had a stargate. Some theories 00:28:17.970 --> 00:28:20.150 also argue that there is a stargate in one of 00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:22.630 the basements of Hussain's palace, where he probably 00:28:22.630 --> 00:28:24.950 did some pretty freaky stuff. I can get that 00:28:24.950 --> 00:28:27.250 part out. Is he just making this up? No, this 00:28:27.250 --> 00:28:29.049 is kind of what people believed at the time. 00:28:29.130 --> 00:28:32.450 Okay. So what he's saying in this article weirdly 00:28:32.450 --> 00:28:35.269 is just what Sal has been saying. It's incorporating 00:28:35.269 --> 00:28:38.009 everything from the Stargate story, but this 00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:39.690 is the weird thing I ran into the problem of. 00:28:39.730 --> 00:28:42.230 I couldn't just do a Sal story. I couldn't just 00:28:42.230 --> 00:28:44.490 do a Stargate story, but they weirdly amalgamate 00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:46.210 them into something where I couldn't quite tell 00:28:46.210 --> 00:28:49.470 the whole story. Okay. Gotcha. I do apologize 00:28:49.470 --> 00:28:52.390 to everybody. These also might be their own episodes 00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:55.130 sometime in the future, weirdly enough, because 00:28:55.130 --> 00:28:57.730 there is enough on both of these things to do 00:28:57.730 --> 00:29:00.569 another episode on. While the location number 00:29:00.569 --> 00:29:03.910 of Stargates is in dispute, one thing the theorists 00:29:03.910 --> 00:29:07.150 all do agree on is that the Iraq War wasn't the 00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:09.069 first time that a foreign power showed interest 00:29:09.069 --> 00:29:11.829 in it. In what sounds like Indiana Jones fanfic, 00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:14.369 the Nazis were fighting the British during World 00:29:14.369 --> 00:29:17.710 War II over control of a Stargate in this region. 00:29:17.950 --> 00:29:21.089 Fast forward several decades, and according to 00:29:21.089 --> 00:29:24.029 some theorists, in the 1980s, the Saddam started 00:29:24.029 --> 00:29:26.849 doing a restoration of the temple ring, the world, 00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:29.609 which they also take to mean the Illuminati. 00:29:29.579 --> 00:29:32.000 Oddly, the theories don't really mention the 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.519 first Iraq war, but after years of work, Hussein 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.900 either was able to get the Stargate working or 00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:41.240 learn from it and Big Daddy America got concerned. 00:29:41.380 --> 00:29:43.759 Quote from Salah again, the Bush administration 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.920 recognized that Hussein had very, very valuable, 00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.700 relevant information concerning the history of 00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:52.740 the planet. Either technology or text basically 00:29:52.740 --> 00:29:55.539 confirming this and he was going to release this 00:29:55.539 --> 00:29:58.640 to the general public. I think that was a big 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.819 part of the reason why the Bush administration 00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:04.119 went into Iraq to stop Hussein from revealing 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.579 and also to get control themselves." Salah went 00:30:08.579 --> 00:30:11.279 on to tell me that while he wasn't the first 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.839 person to write about the theory, he was the 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:18.559 first person to write in 2003 an in -depth article 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.359 regarding it. Since that time, he said numerous 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.140 people have furthered the idea. Many whistleblowers 00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:26.819 have come forward that have corroborated the 00:30:26.819 --> 00:30:29.829 story. Quote, essentially, more and more people 00:30:29.829 --> 00:30:32.369 are coming forward saying that they have been 00:30:32.369 --> 00:30:35.690 involved in classified programs where these technologies 00:30:35.690 --> 00:30:38.869 are used quite regularly and that they are found 00:30:38.869 --> 00:30:41.950 all over the planet. Iraq is just one place they're 00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:44.490 found. They're also located in places like Iran 00:30:44.490 --> 00:30:48.710 and Syria, which is why there is a push for America 00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:52.210 to go into Iran and intervene in the Syrian civil 00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:55.720 war. All this is very significant. and what drives 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.440 international conflict. Any congressman who wants 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.480 to investigate this topic, if they take steps 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.440 to actually investigate it, they are quietly 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.460 approached and given the old carrot and stick 00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:07.059 treatment, and most congressmen accept the carrot 00:31:07.059 --> 00:31:11.019 and are basically promoted." There is hope, though, 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.279 that the websites covering these theories are 00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.240 just a click away from info wars, and it's not 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.019 too hard to imagine President Trump having one 00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:22.099 of his sleek and smooth underlings read it out 00:31:22.099 --> 00:31:24.980 to him before switching on ancient aliens. Like 00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:27.660 imagine him sitting there in his gold throne 00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:30.319 leaning forward like a hungry baby bird with 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.680 ancient aliens reflecting in his eyes. So maybe 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.099 Trump's recent comments about how the US should 00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:38.900 have stolen Iraq's oil and his statement of maybe 00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:41.359 we'll have another chance are actually about 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.319 that sweet sweet teleportation tack. That's the 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.839 end of the Vice article. Chelsea, any comments? 00:31:47.099 --> 00:31:50.220 We're coming up to a weird spot. This is all 00:31:50.220 --> 00:31:53.400 very weird. It's gonna go weird from here, too. 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.599 It's all, like, such pre-, like, crazy conspir 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.180 - Like, it's giving me the feel -goods, because... 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.099 I remember all of this happening, but it's like 00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:07.099 such a weird spot to look back on. Yeah. And 00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:09.920 also funny enough, like the U .S. bombed Iran 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.599 and Israel bombed Iran. Oh, yeah. Not that long 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.460 ago from here. Yeah. Yeah. We're coming up on 00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:18.480 a lot of stuff where we're looking back and being 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.519 like, Oh, that's that's just the Middle East. 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.799 That's how it is. It doesn't guarantee that there's 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.940 a Stargate there. Yeah. I feel like we should. 00:32:27.419 --> 00:32:30.740 approach this topic as if there is no Stargate, 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.700 and then only if it's proved that there's a Stargate 00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:36.740 there can we start moving forward with that. 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.920 Yeah, but could you imagine if we went in there, 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.839 or it's not us, Canada wouldn't go in there, 00:32:42.140 --> 00:32:44.119 but they went in there and they're like, huh, 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.400 there really was a Stargate. To be fair, if Canada 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.220 went in there, technically, if there was a Stargate, 00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:51.680 I don't think it would just be their first learning. 00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:53.880 I feel like they would have to address the fact 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.799 that, oh, by the way, there's a Stargate. it 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.940 wouldn't be like oh look at that stargate there 00:32:58.940 --> 00:33:02.539 look at that yeah nobody knew about this weird 00:33:02.539 --> 00:33:07.059 yeah anyhow chelsea that's that portion of this 00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:09.880 episode now we have to get into michael cella 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.680 because we were reading michael cella yes okay 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.700 but we are not talking about him now we need 00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:19.880 to talk about him because Chelsea, just Google 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.759 Michael Salla, please. OK, here he is. Which 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.920 is the first website that shows up? He's pretty 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.460 crazy looking. ExoPolitics .org. Go to that website. 00:33:28.539 --> 00:33:30.980 Wow. First thing that should be known. Really 00:33:30.980 --> 00:33:34.119 combing all his hair forward. He is, strangely 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.039 enough, I get a lot of Corey Good vibes from 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.339 his YouTube screens, pictures. Yeah, it's a little 00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:46.509 aggressive. I must say. It has one, two, three, 00:33:46.569 --> 00:33:49.289 four, five people with bags over their heads 00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:53.670 and targets on their heads and UFOs and Michael 00:33:53.670 --> 00:33:56.650 Sela. I was just so distracted by his hair all 00:33:56.650 --> 00:33:58.829 combed forward. I didn't think they did that 00:33:58.829 --> 00:34:02.460 anymore. that just in that one picture too the 00:34:02.460 --> 00:34:04.700 rest he does different things with his hair is 00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:08.260 just that one he did he decided to do a little 00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:10.659 something oh no never mind the star trek one 00:34:10.659 --> 00:34:13.500 below is also yeah it seems pretty aggressive 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:17.139 if i was to be honest oh chelsea i just scrolled 00:34:17.139 --> 00:34:19.260 down this is what the fuck is this beautifully 00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:23.280 yeah this is beautifully one of those like 1990 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.820 style websites One of like four that he owns. 00:34:27.099 --> 00:34:30.440 Oh, I just expand. Why is there a guy in a mask 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.920 next to him? Like this isn't just a picture. 00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:36.800 This is literally someone in a balaclava. And 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.340 then if I scroll down a little bit more, there's 00:34:39.340 --> 00:34:42.599 a is that a blue avian? Chelsea, I need to go 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:46.179 to the very top, actually. Uh huh. And put your 00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:56.630 mouse cursor over witnesses. Oh no. Okay, oh 00:34:56.630 --> 00:35:00.809 no, I'm now I'm gonna share my screen it has 00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:03.090 everything here. Well, it doesn't have everything 00:35:03.090 --> 00:35:08.389 but I need to know I'm now gonna share my screen 00:35:08.389 --> 00:35:12.650 Listen to his most current statement on Corey 00:35:12.650 --> 00:35:18.650 good. Oh No Just when is this from does he know 00:35:18.650 --> 00:35:20.849 that Corey good admitted that everything was 00:35:20.849 --> 00:35:28.539 made up? Oh, yes Okay, good. In fact, this is 00:35:28.539 --> 00:35:33.300 the statements about. Mention Corey Good. And 00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:39.599 so the Y files talked about Corey Good. And I 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.719 worked closely with Corey Good for six years, 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:50.360 from 2015 to 2021. And we parted company in a 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.780 friendly way, in the sense that you know, my 00:35:53.780 --> 00:35:57.000 relationship with Corey was positive. I mean, 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.639 we never had any real problem in terms of any 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.599 kind of financial disagreements or anything like 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.920 that. Financial disagreements? Why? It was all 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.820 kind of on the up and up. But then in 2021, Corey 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:16.699 took exception to the information that I was 00:36:16.699 --> 00:36:20.780 getting from a number of insiders that I was 00:36:20.780 --> 00:36:25.389 promoting. It wasn't just Elena Dunham, but it 00:36:25.389 --> 00:36:33.130 was also Tony Rodrigues and some others. But 00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:36.789 one of the things about Corey Good that is pointed 00:36:36.789 --> 00:36:42.590 out in this episode of The Y Files is his legal 00:36:42.590 --> 00:36:46.949 deposition in a court case. The way he's clicking 00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:49.969 his tongue is driving me crazy. On a key aspect 00:36:49.969 --> 00:36:53.449 of his testimony that he had given to me and 00:36:53.449 --> 00:36:56.210 to David Wilcock and to many others. I mean, 00:36:56.489 --> 00:36:59.750 in the time I worked with Corey, he was very 00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:05.469 clear that his revelations were based on him 00:37:05.469 --> 00:37:08.650 physically traveling to these different locations 00:37:08.650 --> 00:37:12.190 and having face -to -face encounters with inner 00:37:12.190 --> 00:37:14.849 Earth beings extraterrestrials going out into 00:37:14.849 --> 00:37:18.590 space going to Mars. I mean his incredible testimony 00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:25.909 which I think was that helped kind of like expand 00:37:25.909 --> 00:37:27.610 our understanding of what's happening in secret 00:37:27.610 --> 00:37:31.010 space programmed and was corroborated by others 00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:34.369 such as William Tompkins that he presented all 00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:39.050 that as his direct Physical experiences now when 00:37:39.050 --> 00:37:44.369 he gave his legal deposition he Backtracked he 00:37:44.369 --> 00:37:49.690 said that those that information was now something 00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:54.510 that was a product of his imagination Fantasy 00:37:54.510 --> 00:37:57.289 even delusion. I mean even referred to it as 00:37:57.289 --> 00:38:00.630 delusion. So why would he do that? I? Suspect 00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:04.809 that has a lot to do with him wanting to claim 00:38:04.809 --> 00:38:10.340 intellectual property to claim as his own intellectual 00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:13.440 property. His testimony that was put out by Gaia 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.519 TV, he's in a legal dispute with them. I don't 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.539 want to go into that. So I just need to put a 00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:24.699 break in here. This is Gaia. The Australian accent 00:38:24.699 --> 00:38:28.679 is beautiful on that. I think he's done it for 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.900 his reasons related to this kind of law case. 00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:36.199 or this litigation with Gaia over intellectual 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.019 property rights, but exactly what the nuances 00:38:39.019 --> 00:38:42.440 are, that's above my pay grade. But he has discredited 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.780 himself and he has done a disservice to those 00:38:46.780 --> 00:38:50.420 of us that have been researching this field for 00:38:50.420 --> 00:38:54.400 decades and worked closely with him and supported 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.940 his testimony and defended him from many public 00:38:56.940 --> 00:39:00.619 attacks. I defended Corey from many public attacks. 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.219 But now he's discredited himself and that is 00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:09.179 a shame because he really has undermined his 00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:13.000 credibility now as a legitimate source for understanding 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.539 what's going on in space out there. So the Y 00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:18.900 -Files goes into details into this and really 00:39:18.900 --> 00:39:23.780 lays out that Corey is now taking the position 00:39:23.780 --> 00:39:27.679 that His secret space program revelations were 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.480 a product of his creative imagination, fantasy, 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.559 and even delusion. So very sad. Yeah, watch that 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.400 episode. Yeah, White Falls comes up a lot weirdly 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.159 enough in the whole conspiracy world. He has 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.900 no introspection. I have accepted Corey Good 00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:52.280 for five years. Yeah. as a credible source who's 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.900 giving me information, who has lied about this 00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:57.699 stuff. Yeah, he almost seemed to defend it as 00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:01.500 if it was something to get creative. Created 00:40:01.500 --> 00:40:04.579 licensing. Licensing back from Gaia. And he just 00:40:04.579 --> 00:40:06.880 kind of said, well, he kind of discredited himself 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.300 in doing all of that. I made it all up. Yeah, 00:40:09.460 --> 00:40:12.440 but he kind of excuses it. He posts this on the 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.440 website just below this too. A whole thing about 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.000 how it seems like Corey Good is just lying about 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.440 all this information so he can get the intellectual 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.519 proof for it. But it's just kind of hilarious 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.219 that he works with Corey Good. His entire thing, 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.760 it seems, after 2003 with Exopolitics, is the 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.860 secret space program. And it makes... full sense 00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:37.420 for it to be that and Chelsea it is so much that 00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:42.219 thing that he has a comment on the Epstein files 00:40:42.219 --> 00:40:44.880 he always brings everything back to the secret 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.940 space program and somehow he even brings the 00:40:48.940 --> 00:40:51.980 Epstein thing back there and I still Chelsea, 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.800 I don't understand his position on it, but it's 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.880 part of the secret space program. I think his 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.460 original thing made it pretty clear what his 00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:05.320 opinion is on the Epstein files because you sent 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.900 it to me and you said about an hour. So I put 00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:10.639 it to about an hour and you actually started 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.079 off right where I got to and turned it off because 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.360 he kept referring to what was going on with Epstein 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.809 as honey pot over and over and over. again and 00:41:21.809 --> 00:41:24.690 it was really disturbing to me that he kept saying 00:41:24.690 --> 00:41:28.010 honey pot and putting quotations around young 00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:30.570 girls. I had to listen to it because my entire 00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:33.690 episode is about him but when he said young people 00:41:33.690 --> 00:41:37.349 it really bugged me. And not only that when he 00:41:37.349 --> 00:41:40.969 kept saying honey pot about like people getting 00:41:40.969 --> 00:41:45.369 wrangled into the honey pot and end quote. He 00:41:45.369 --> 00:41:49.909 takes away anybody's actual actions and saying 00:41:49.909 --> 00:41:52.920 like Oh, these young people, you couldn't resist 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.800 them, like anybody couldn't resist them. Exactly. 00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.460 They had to go to this. Exactly. It really bugs 00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:03.789 me. Is that not how it sounded? So I think that's 00:42:03.789 --> 00:42:05.550 his stance on it. He really dappens everything 00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:08.869 and it's really bothersome. I know. Anyhow, his 00:42:08.869 --> 00:42:12.630 position is, but also the oil and gas industry 00:42:12.630 --> 00:42:15.570 needs money. So that's his position. I can't 00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:18.610 say that this wasn't weird, but I'm also seeing 00:42:18.610 --> 00:42:22.989 he's kind of amalgamating everything into what 00:42:22.989 --> 00:42:25.809 he's talking, like literally everything into 00:42:25.809 --> 00:42:28.210 what he's talking about. I shouldn't say everything, 00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:30.849 but he amalgamates everything that we've talked 00:42:30.849 --> 00:42:34.110 about and it's weirdly that he is connected to 00:42:34.110 --> 00:42:36.929 a lot of people we have discussed, like Corey 00:42:36.929 --> 00:42:41.889 Good, like David Wilcock, like Stephen Greer, 00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:44.889 and like Linda Moulton Howe because he mentions 00:42:44.889 --> 00:42:47.809 her thoroughly several times. See, but there's 00:42:47.809 --> 00:42:50.389 other people to be tied to other than these people. 00:42:50.469 --> 00:42:53.769 It's not just all these people. He's just mentioning 00:42:53.769 --> 00:42:56.690 all these people who are straight up not credible 00:42:56.690 --> 00:42:59.380 sources. Yeah, he does the X thing, which David 00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:00.960 Wolkoff does now, and we'll do in the future. 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:03.840 He does do this. And is this like a live that 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.599 he's doing on YouTube? Oh, yeah, he does it every 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.539 week. We're seeing more and more of this as well. 00:43:09.929 --> 00:43:12.949 people like this going live and just they're 00:43:12.949 --> 00:43:15.630 there to make money too so they just have to 00:43:15.630 --> 00:43:18.130 and unfortunately getting way more views than 00:43:18.130 --> 00:43:22.650 we do because this one has 18 000 views wow anyhow 00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:25.730 chelsea those are my two episodes anything you 00:43:25.730 --> 00:43:28.170 want to say and i thought this was going to be 00:43:28.170 --> 00:43:31.329 a part of it which it actually funny enough doesn't 00:43:31.329 --> 00:43:34.550 come up at all here let me copy paste this into 00:43:34.550 --> 00:43:38.360 general this is When you said that you were talking 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.659 about the Stargate, this is my original reference 00:43:42.659 --> 00:43:45.159 for what you're talking about. And I know that 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.559 I watched this for the first time with you way 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:53.420 back when. And this is not a Stargate in Iraq. 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.699 This is in the Gulf of the Gulf of Aden thing. 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.639 Yeah. OK. Yeah. So that's what. I originally 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.960 thought of, and this is somebody who talked about 00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.179 a Stargate just off the coast of Saudi Arabia 00:44:07.179 --> 00:44:10.519 with Project Camelot, which is... They're going 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.739 to be their own episode at some point. Oh, yeah, 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.820 they're going to be their own episode. And that's 00:44:15.820 --> 00:44:18.800 Cary Cassidy and Bill Ryan. And Bill Ryan's tied 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.500 to Serpo. Oh, man, I love that Serpo article 00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:25.030 that he wrote. Yeah, I know. It was so good. 00:44:25.269 --> 00:44:26.110 But that's originally what I thought about. I 00:44:26.110 --> 00:44:28.309 tried to talk to the old man, but the people 00:44:28.309 --> 00:44:31.289 around the old man stopped me. Pretty suspicious. 00:44:32.090 --> 00:44:35.130 I know. That was so good. And like all of science 00:44:35.130 --> 00:44:37.789 pointed to no, but he just kept going on it. 00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:41.070 But that's what I originally thought of with 00:44:41.070 --> 00:44:42.889 the Stargate. And I thought it was this one. 00:44:42.909 --> 00:44:44.510 And then I looked it up while you're talking. 00:44:44.590 --> 00:44:46.909 Turns out totally different Stargate, I guess. 00:44:47.130 --> 00:44:51.730 That is. That's in Yemen. Yeah. And... Project 00:44:51.730 --> 00:44:54.550 Camelot, so there's another thing there for you. 00:44:54.710 --> 00:44:56.610 Oh yeah, no, there were lots of stargates out 00:44:56.610 --> 00:44:59.889 there. And let me be clear that Michael Salla 00:44:59.889 --> 00:45:02.710 has said there are other stargates out there. 00:45:02.989 --> 00:45:06.449 Oh, good for you, Michael Salla. Like I've said, 00:45:06.849 --> 00:45:09.809 this is neither, weirdly enough, a Michael Salla 00:45:09.809 --> 00:45:14.010 or a Stargate episode because I didn't know thoroughly 00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:17.010 enough. It's super weird. If we went on a journey, 00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:20.429 the only comment I think I have is, we've been 00:45:20.429 --> 00:45:24.800 through such a weird journey to the fringe. of 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.900 people of our age just going through who enjoy 00:45:28.900 --> 00:45:32.500 UFOs and conspiracy theories and stuff like that. 00:45:32.739 --> 00:45:34.940 Just even in this episode when we're talking 00:45:34.940 --> 00:45:39.320 about going from pre -9 -11 and then go 9 -11 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:42.159 and then you go past that and you go into COVID 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.519 and this guy just went full on and many of the 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.750 people that we see come up to 9 -11 and then 00:45:50.750 --> 00:45:53.349 they come up to COVID and then they just take 00:45:53.349 --> 00:45:56.030 a right turn. And you can tell that he's done 00:45:56.030 --> 00:45:58.250 it. Chelsea, I'm just going to throw it out there. 00:45:58.469 --> 00:46:02.369 Is that time period December 21st, 2012? It might 00:46:02.369 --> 00:46:05.309 be. And is that when their left wing side died 00:46:05.309 --> 00:46:08.849 and their right wing side emerged? You know what? 00:46:08.929 --> 00:46:11.550 I don't think it was then. I think it was a little 00:46:11.550 --> 00:46:12.550 bit later than that. I think it was pretty close. 00:46:12.909 --> 00:46:15.289 I think it was very close though. I think you're 00:46:15.289 --> 00:46:17.949 right. But here's another one that kind of went 00:46:17.949 --> 00:46:20.269 along with that. And I think it's been something 00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:23.590 that has been interesting me more and more of 00:46:23.590 --> 00:46:27.429 why the hell have they all gone that way? It 00:46:27.429 --> 00:46:30.409 just doesn't make sense in my head. I can't. 00:46:30.530 --> 00:46:32.489 We're gonna have to do a deep dive on that at 00:46:32.489 --> 00:46:36.239 some point. It might be too deep of a dive. It's 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.860 a really deep dive. In fact, there's entire podcasts 00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:42.300 on this subject. And it's so super weird what 00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:46.460 they have to tell themselves for this to continually 00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:49.559 be perpetuated. It just doesn't make sense in 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:54.280 my head. listening to Michael Stella about how 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.880 the Epstein files have to do with the secret 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.059 space program makes no fucking sense. But it 00:47:01.059 --> 00:47:04.320 just, you know, it was very quiet until the last 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.619 couple days because I think they were all trying 00:47:06.619 --> 00:47:09.179 to process how they were going to spin the fact 00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:12.559 that... No, but even that, they made no sense 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.139 before that either. It's just the fact that they 00:47:15.139 --> 00:47:17.760 ended up there. That's the weird part. We've 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.869 been getting a lot of weird things. Out of why 00:47:20.869 --> 00:47:23.389 they would say such a thing this week. I don't 00:47:23.389 --> 00:47:25.610 know if that was a super weird episode I'm not 00:47:25.610 --> 00:47:28.809 gonna lie a couple episodes It didn't address 00:47:28.809 --> 00:47:32.030 either of the topics that I wanted to it did 00:47:32.030 --> 00:47:34.869 address some of them But we could actually return 00:47:34.869 --> 00:47:39.889 to either of these topics because it is Weirdly 00:47:39.889 --> 00:47:44.369 enough big topics on both of those Anyhow, I 00:47:44.369 --> 00:47:46.789 think this actually is a great place to end I 00:47:46.789 --> 00:47:49.329 have been Taylor here with Chelsea We are Journey 00:47:49.329 --> 00:47:51.309 to the Fringe. Thank you all for listening. We'll 00:47:51.309 --> 00:47:57.650 see you next week. Bye. Thank you for listening 00:47:57.650 --> 00:48:00.230 to Journey to the Fringe. 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