WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:13.400 us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.480 to Journey to the Fringe, now available in boxed 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:19.019 form. For those looking for bulk discount and 00:00:19.019 --> 00:00:21.899 much like a fine boxed wine, we are and that's 00:00:21.899 --> 00:00:24.719 actually as far as I got in the writing of this 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:26.760 intro because I realized there are so many different 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:28.780 directions to go with that. That was a metaphor. 00:00:29.179 --> 00:00:31.500 Is it the giggles start happening as it goes 00:00:31.500 --> 00:00:34.780 in? Is it that we get more fun as time goes on 00:00:34.780 --> 00:00:36.880 or with consumption? I don't know. I couldn't 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.219 decide. You pick it from here. Anyhow, we're 00:00:39.219 --> 00:00:41.859 your podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea here today. 00:00:42.100 --> 00:00:44.079 And Chelsea, I texted you about this earlier. 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.100 I'm not really sure what this episode is. It's 00:00:47.100 --> 00:00:49.539 kind of a weird amalgamation of two things that 00:00:49.539 --> 00:00:53.700 never fully addresses either topic, but I'm happy 00:00:53.700 --> 00:00:56.340 with how it turns out. I am confused because 00:00:56.340 --> 00:00:59.020 of what you sent me, and I'm not sure that that 00:00:59.020 --> 00:01:03.020 explains any of what you did send me, so... Potentially 00:01:03.020 --> 00:01:06.939 not! I'm gonna go through my thought process 00:01:06.939 --> 00:01:09.500 as we go through this episode. This episode started 00:01:09.500 --> 00:01:11.840 out Chelsea You have heard of this topic. It's 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:16.340 the Iraqi Stargate. Oh And I was like, oh this 00:01:16.340 --> 00:01:18.540 would make a great episode We're gonna learn 00:01:18.540 --> 00:01:21.140 so much about it half the episodes about that 00:01:21.140 --> 00:01:23.180 and then half the episodes about something else, 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:32.299 but That was the Gulf of Amman, correct it's 00:01:32.299 --> 00:01:35.790 a belt Mesopotamia basically Okay. I did some 00:01:35.790 --> 00:01:38.549 research into this and I had found out that Vice 00:01:38.549 --> 00:01:41.709 actually did a deep dive into it. What? Yeah, 00:01:41.909 --> 00:01:44.810 they have a great article on it and I got halfway 00:01:44.810 --> 00:01:46.909 through the article and then I learned something 00:01:46.909 --> 00:01:49.010 that I couldn't unlearn. I need to go learn about 00:01:49.010 --> 00:01:51.109 it immediately. So we're gonna start with the 00:01:51.109 --> 00:01:53.569 Vice article. We're gonna go down the rabbit 00:01:53.569 --> 00:01:56.219 hole. It led me down. We're going to finish with 00:01:56.219 --> 00:01:57.680 the Vice article and then we're going to learn 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.079 more about this other topic. Okay, I'm intrigued. 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.480 The Vice article was written in January 23rd, 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.299 2017 by Mac Lamoro and it's called There Are 00:02:06.299 --> 00:02:09.680 People Who Think the West Invaded Iraq Over a 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.699 Stargate. Okay. Great article title, right to 00:02:12.699 --> 00:02:15.620 the point. If I recall back to when I learned 00:02:15.620 --> 00:02:19.180 about this, it was probably around that time 00:02:19.180 --> 00:02:21.659 actually that I first heard about it. We're going 00:02:21.659 --> 00:02:23.960 to read a bit from this article. To begin with, 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.400 we're going to need to go way back in time to 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.240 talk about the Sumerians who lived in ancient 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.319 Mesopotamia. The Sumerians were one of the first 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.759 civilizations in existence, and for a time worshipped 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:35.139 the Anunnaki, their deities. But what if they 00:02:35.139 --> 00:02:37.620 weren't gods? What if they were aliens? Essentially, 00:02:37.780 --> 00:02:40.520 the Iraq War stargate theory pushes and narrows 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.240 this idea a little further, saying one of the 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.680 technologies that were gifted upon the Sumerians 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.740 were stargates, and their positioning was one 00:02:48.740 --> 00:02:50.900 of the major reasons for the years of strife 00:02:50.900 --> 00:02:53.599 in the Middle East. I reached out to Dr. Michael 00:02:53.610 --> 00:02:57.050 who wrote an in -depth article about the theory 00:02:57.050 --> 00:03:00.530 back in 2003 to learn about it further. And this 00:03:00.530 --> 00:03:03.129 is where I said, where do people start talking 00:03:03.129 --> 00:03:05.669 about the Stargate? Dr. Michael Sal is one of 00:03:05.669 --> 00:03:08.069 the first people to start talking about Stargates 00:03:08.069 --> 00:03:11.810 in Iraq. He wrote a very in -depth paper on this 00:03:11.810 --> 00:03:15.770 topic in 2003. So we're going to be reading his 00:03:15.770 --> 00:03:19.030 article from that time about this topic. What 00:03:19.030 --> 00:03:22.210 kind of paper would he be writing this for? For 00:03:22.210 --> 00:03:25.590 his website. Galactic Diplomacy dot com. Okay, 00:03:25.689 --> 00:03:27.849 so it's just an article that he was writing it 00:03:27.849 --> 00:03:30.330 for. It wasn't for like a dissertation or something. 00:03:30.610 --> 00:03:33.569 There are good citations within it. He actually 00:03:33.569 --> 00:03:36.030 did a fairly good job. From what I can tell, 00:03:36.169 --> 00:03:39.250 he actually does have a fairly comprehensive 00:03:39.250 --> 00:03:42.169 education behind him. This is unheard of. Well, 00:03:42.389 --> 00:03:45.879 except Stephen Greer. But here we come to, so 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.639 who is Dr. Michael Salla? Right off his Galactic 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.900 Diplomacy, he has like four different websites. 00:03:51.099 --> 00:03:53.419 One of them is GalacticDiplomacy .com. One of 00:03:53.419 --> 00:03:56.939 them is Exopolitics .com. MichaelSalla .com is 00:03:56.939 --> 00:03:59.919 his. He's been on Coast to Coast a ton as well. 00:04:00.099 --> 00:04:00.819 So he does have that one. Oh yeah, that's where 00:04:00.819 --> 00:04:03.699 I know I'm from. But I wanted to use his description 00:04:03.699 --> 00:04:06.520 of himself. Dr. Michael Salla is a joint founder 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.139 of GalacticDiplomacy .com. and is best known 00:04:09.139 --> 00:04:12.020 as a pioneer in the development of exo -politics. 00:04:12.219 --> 00:04:14.599 Chelsea, have you heard this term? We've talked 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.720 about it before. Yes. And it sounds like such 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.959 a legitimate thing, does it not? Yeah, but I 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:22.620 know. Like it sounds like something that needs 00:04:22.620 --> 00:04:26.740 to be taken seriously. It's just a spin on making 00:04:26.740 --> 00:04:29.120 something sound much more professional than it 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.000 is because it's actually not a thing at all. 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.149 This guy claims to have coined this term. Okay, 00:04:35.290 --> 00:04:38.910 that sounds legit, of course. He is a pioneer 00:04:38.910 --> 00:04:41.250 in the development of exopolitics, the scholarly 00:04:41.250 --> 00:04:45.209 study of political implications of life. That's 00:04:45.209 --> 00:04:47.250 how he describes it. His interest in galactic 00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:49.870 diplomacy evolved out of his investigation of 00:04:49.870 --> 00:04:52.009 the sources of international conflict and its 00:04:52.009 --> 00:04:54.670 relationship with the undisclosed extraterrestrial 00:04:54.670 --> 00:04:57.649 presence. His groundbreaking book, Exopolitics, 00:04:57.730 --> 00:04:59.529 Political Implications of the Extraterrestrial 00:04:59.529 --> 00:05:01.870 Presence, presents the first scholarly framework 00:05:01.870 --> 00:05:03.949 for understanding the political implications 00:05:03.949 --> 00:05:06.699 of of extraterrestrial presence. Dr. Salah is 00:05:06.699 --> 00:05:08.860 an internationally recognized scholar in international 00:05:08.860 --> 00:05:12.699 politics, conflict resolution, second track diplomacy, 00:05:13.139 --> 00:05:15.379 U .S. foreign policy, and is the author -editor 00:05:15.379 --> 00:05:17.779 of an additional four books, including The Hero's 00:05:17.779 --> 00:05:20.160 Journey Towards a Second American Century, Essays 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.480 on Peace, Why the Cold War Ended, and Islamic 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:26.540 Radicalism, Muslim Nations, and the West. He 00:05:26.540 --> 00:05:29.319 has also authored more than 70 articles, chapters, 00:05:29.420 --> 00:05:31.740 and book reviews on peace, ethnic conflict, and 00:05:31.740 --> 00:05:34.540 conflict resolution. academic appointments in 00:05:34.540 --> 00:05:36.779 the School of International Service and the Center 00:05:36.779 --> 00:05:39.639 for Global Peace American University Washington 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:43.500 DC from 1996 to 2004. I looked it up and apparently 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:45.879 this school is also ranked as like one of the 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.100 top 100 universities in the US. Wow this actually 00:05:49.100 --> 00:05:51.579 seems like one of the most legit guys that we've 00:05:51.579 --> 00:05:53.939 ever talked about. The Department of Political 00:05:53.939 --> 00:05:56.879 Sciences of Australian National University Canberra 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.339 Australia from 94 to 96 and the Elliott School 00:05:59.339 --> 00:06:01.959 of International Affairs George Washington University 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:05.370 Washington DC 2002. Holy shit. He has a PhD in 00:06:05.370 --> 00:06:07.089 government from the University of Queensland, 00:06:07.269 --> 00:06:09.790 Australia, and a master's of arts in philosophy 00:06:09.790 --> 00:06:11.970 from the University of Melbourne, Australia. 00:06:12.170 --> 00:06:14.629 Dr. Salla has conducted research into the fieldwork 00:06:14.629 --> 00:06:17.889 in the ethnic conflicts in East Timor, Kosovo, 00:06:18.129 --> 00:06:20.790 Macedonia, and Sri Lanka, and organized successful 00:06:20.790 --> 00:06:23.410 Track 2 diplomacy. He puts this in quotes, I 00:06:23.410 --> 00:06:26.110 don't know what that means, and peacemaking initiatives 00:06:26.110 --> 00:06:28.610 involving high to mid -level participants from 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:30.569 these conflicts. He received two grants from 00:06:30.569 --> 00:06:33.069 the US Institute for Peace. and one grant from 00:06:33.069 --> 00:06:35.529 the Ford Foundation to conduct track two initiatives 00:06:35.529 --> 00:06:38.110 to resolve the East Timor conflict. Dr. Salla 00:06:38.110 --> 00:06:40.850 invited a group of East Timorese and later prominent 00:06:40.850 --> 00:06:44.029 Indonesian citizens to Washington DC to initiate 00:06:44.029 --> 00:06:46.430 dialogue that would produce an ongoing initiative 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:49.490 to help promote a resolution of the East Timor 00:06:49.490 --> 00:06:52.470 conflict. In the subsequent meetings, why consultation 00:06:52.470 --> 00:06:55.350 occurred with members of the U .S. and Indonesian 00:06:55.350 --> 00:06:57.730 diplomatic community and with the United Nations. 00:06:57.930 --> 00:07:00.569 These meetings resulted in important breakthroughs 00:07:00.569 --> 00:07:03.569 which resulted in power -sharing documents that 00:07:03.569 --> 00:07:06.269 helped stimulate a diplomatic solution to the 00:07:06.269 --> 00:07:09.250 East Timor conflict. A final report described 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:12.290 the series of Track 2 initiatives with the East 00:07:12.290 --> 00:07:15.430 Timorese community that Dr. Salla helped organize. 00:07:15.709 --> 00:07:17.910 Dr. Salla combines his experience in Track 2 00:07:17.910 --> 00:07:20.069 diplomacy in the international arena with his 00:07:20.069 --> 00:07:22.730 exo -politics research to produce a unique set 00:07:22.730 --> 00:07:25.490 of skills and knowledge base for galactic diplomacy 00:07:25.490 --> 00:07:27.990 involving private individuals and citizen groups. 00:07:28.250 --> 00:07:30.930 It is his unique combination of conflict resolution, 00:07:31.310 --> 00:07:33.230 second track diplomacy, international politics 00:07:33.230 --> 00:07:36.769 and exopolitics that provides a firm foundation 00:07:36.769 --> 00:07:39.550 for establishing key principles and practices 00:07:39.550 --> 00:07:43.470 of galactic diplomacy. So that's his self written 00:07:43.470 --> 00:07:46.370 biography. Oh, I thought we moved on from that. 00:07:46.529 --> 00:07:50.829 No, that was it. And that actually sounds super 00:07:50.829 --> 00:07:55.480 impressive. yeah and like weirdly grounded in 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.339 actual international politics and negotiation 00:07:58.339 --> 00:08:01.639 well especially when you frame it was such i 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.379 mean his education is pretty decent so when you 00:08:05.379 --> 00:08:08.300 frame it that way as well he spent a decade in 00:08:08.300 --> 00:08:10.480 university he got both a master of arts and a 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:12.800 master of science to get a master both he has 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.240 two bachelors a master for sure and a phd he 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.139 is very well educated he became a professor a 00:08:20.139 --> 00:08:22.959 lecturer but there's There's a distinct change 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.660 in his trajectory that you're going to notice 00:08:25.660 --> 00:08:27.220 here pretty quick, Chelsea, because we're going 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:30.360 to start reading this article he wrote in 2003 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.720 about Iraq. And unfortunately, you can't find 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.820 this just by searching the internet. You got 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:38.000 to go on the way back machine from his website, 00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:41.139 ExoPolitics .com, but it's not. Posted there 00:08:41.139 --> 00:08:43.379 anymore. So it's called an exo political perspective 00:08:43.379 --> 00:08:46.220 on the preemptive war against Iraq posted February 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:49.960 3rd 2003 written by dr Michael Sala the abstract 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.200 right at the start most if not all criticism 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.100 of Bush administration's motivations for launching 00:08:54.100 --> 00:08:56.919 a preemptive war on Iraq focus on a combination 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.940 of the imperial world's view of conservative 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:01.279 politicians in power in Washington DC and the 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.759 corporate interests that drive the political 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:06.019 agenda of the Bush administration In his 2003 00:09:06.019 --> 00:09:08.179 State of the Union address, President George 00:09:08.179 --> 00:09:10.820 Bush declared the gravest danger facing America 00:09:10.820 --> 00:09:13.279 in the world is outlaw regimes that seek and 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.539 possess nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. 00:09:15.659 --> 00:09:18.259 In his speech, President Bush eloquently expressed 00:09:18.259 --> 00:09:20.559 his main motivation for launching a preemptive 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.639 war against Iraq in order to prevent, quote, 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:24.940 a day of horror like none we have ever seen, 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.820 end quote. Critics of President Bush's preemptive 00:09:27.820 --> 00:09:30.340 policy, including the political commentator Robert 00:09:30.340 --> 00:09:32.419 Fisk, argued the upcoming US -led war against 00:09:32.419 --> 00:09:35.029 Iraq isn't about chemical warheads or human rights. 00:09:35.149 --> 00:09:37.850 It's about oil." According to another prominent 00:09:37.850 --> 00:09:40.370 political commentator, Michael Lind, the motivation 00:09:40.370 --> 00:09:42.950 lies in the preemptive military doctrine championed 00:09:42.950 --> 00:09:45.629 by neoconservatives such as Deputy Defense Secretary 00:09:45.629 --> 00:09:48.070 Paul Wolfowitz, whose policy views were given 00:09:48.070 --> 00:09:50.370 more prominence after the September 11th attack. 00:09:50.529 --> 00:09:53.049 Most, if not all, criticism of the Bush administration's 00:09:53.049 --> 00:09:55.990 motivation for going to war focus on a combination 00:09:55.990 --> 00:09:58.169 of the imperial world's view of conservative 00:09:58.169 --> 00:10:00.970 politicians and power in Washington DC and the 00:10:00.970 --> 00:10:02.570 corporate interests that drive the political 00:10:02.570 --> 00:10:04.840 agenda of the Bush administration. This paper 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:06.720 will provide a radically different political 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:08.580 analysis of Bush administration's motivation 00:10:08.580 --> 00:10:11.200 for going to war and of the explanations offered 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.559 by his critics. It will be argued that the focus 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:15.980 on either the factors supporting a preemptive 00:10:15.980 --> 00:10:18.080 war against an Iraq possessing weapons of mass 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.039 destruction or on criticisms against US imperialism 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.860 and corporate interests are not so much wrong 00:10:23.860 --> 00:10:26.659 but simply reflect a limited political paradigm 00:10:26.659 --> 00:10:29.120 for understanding the motivation behind US foreign 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.620 policy. The political paradigm to be used in 00:10:31.620 --> 00:10:35.100 this paper is based on This paradigm starts with 00:10:35.100 --> 00:10:37.440 the premise that there exists an extraterrestrial 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.840 presence on Earth which clandestine government 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.559 organizations image of from the general public 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:44.960 and elected public officials. Rather than being 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.700 an upsubstantiated conspiracy theory with little 00:10:47.700 --> 00:10:50.340 relevance to contemporary policy issues such 00:10:50.340 --> 00:10:52.679 as the preemptive war against Iraq, it will be 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.200 argued that an exo -political analysis can provide 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:58.019 a more comprehensive understanding of what motivates 00:10:58.019 --> 00:11:00.679 the Bush administration in launching a preemptive 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.720 attack against Iraq. Exopolitics as an emerging 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.960 field of public policy is primarily based on 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.379 the evidence provided by a range of sources supporting 00:11:08.379 --> 00:11:11.720 the idea of an ET presence that is known by clandestine 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:13.879 government organizations that suppress this from 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.179 the general public and elected political leaders. 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:18.259 The most important evidence comes from former 00:11:18.259 --> 00:11:20.240 military and government officials who have come 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.720 forward to give their whistleblower testimony 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.860 and a number of non -governmental initiatives 00:11:24.860 --> 00:11:27.559 to promote disclosure of the ET presence. While 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:30.399 many disagree over the plausibility of the available 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.250 evidence and various positions either for or 00:11:33.250 --> 00:11:35.730 against the existence of an ET presence and government 00:11:35.730 --> 00:11:38.250 nondisclosure of this presence, exopolitics is 00:11:38.250 --> 00:11:40.809 based on the premise that such debate ought not 00:11:40.809 --> 00:11:43.549 preclude discussions of the implications of such 00:11:43.549 --> 00:11:45.710 a presence among policymakers and the general 00:11:45.710 --> 00:11:48.350 public. Therefore, when one examines contemporary 00:11:48.350 --> 00:11:51.629 international issues such as a US -led preemptive 00:11:51.629 --> 00:11:54.090 war in Iraq, one can explore the viewpoint offered 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:57.129 by those using an exopolitical analysis and consider 00:11:57.129 --> 00:12:00.330 the plausibility of these for a more comprehensive 00:12:00.269 --> 00:12:02.690 of understanding a foreign policy, irrespective 00:12:02.690 --> 00:12:04.929 of the ongoing debate over the persuasiveness 00:12:04.929 --> 00:12:07.350 of the available evidence. This is necessary 00:12:07.350 --> 00:12:10.009 since those actively involved in non -disclosure 00:12:10.009 --> 00:12:12.830 programs will use disinformation, intimidation, 00:12:12.929 --> 00:12:15.549 and other strategies to deter witnesses, distort 00:12:15.549 --> 00:12:18.269 evidence, and deter public attention from the 00:12:18.269 --> 00:12:20.710 ET presence and how it pertains to a range of 00:12:20.710 --> 00:12:24.049 contemporary policy issues. Finally, a clandestine 00:12:24.049 --> 00:12:26.570 campaign of non -disclosure needs to be considered 00:12:26.570 --> 00:12:29.070 in conducting exopolitical analysis in terms 00:12:29.070 --> 00:12:31.639 of the likelihood of this influencing and or 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.980 compromising available empirical evidence that 00:12:33.980 --> 00:12:37.080 otherwise would confirm an ET presence. Therefore, 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.620 exopolitical analysis of some key differences 00:12:39.620 --> 00:12:42.399 from more conventional approaches to political 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.820 analysis, which are based on a traditional social 00:12:44.820 --> 00:12:47.559 scientific method of a value -free objective 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:50.360 analysis of available institutions and actors 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.220 in the public policy arena. What follows is an 00:12:53.220 --> 00:12:55.559 exopolitical analysis of the policy dimensions 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.580 of a historic ET presence that is pertinent to 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:01.480 and a U .S.-led preemptive attack on the regime 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.659 of Saddam Hussein. In conducting this analysis, 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.000 I will first examine the available evidence of 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.840 a historical ET presence in Iraq, then apply 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.080 this evidence to better understand the contemporary 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.600 political situation in Iraq. I will then analyze 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:15.740 actors and the perspective U .S.-led preemptive 00:13:15.740 --> 00:13:17.960 war against Iraq and finally conclude by making 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:23.029 some policy recommendations. So Chelsea, there 00:13:23.029 --> 00:13:26.330 were a few sentences in that preamble in the 00:13:26.330 --> 00:13:28.350 introduction there, which I'm curious if they 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:29.269 remind you of anybody. You know what? I'm so 00:13:29.269 --> 00:13:33.009 taken aback by what I consider to be a 180 from 00:13:33.009 --> 00:13:37.070 his East Timor negotiations and political stances 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:40.789 and education. Yeah. And it is written in a weirdly 00:13:40.789 --> 00:13:43.889 doctrinal way. Is it not? Like this sounds like 00:13:43.889 --> 00:13:48.710 a paper. Yeah. No, it's super weird. Why is what 00:13:48.710 --> 00:13:50.570 I'm wondering? And that really caught me off 00:13:50.570 --> 00:13:53.350 guard. So who does this remind me of I'm not 00:13:53.350 --> 00:13:56.049 sure because I was so like what the hell just 00:13:56.049 --> 00:13:58.149 happened here I'm just gonna go back like what 00:13:58.149 --> 00:14:00.309 brought him here. This is what I brought him 00:14:00.309 --> 00:14:03.289 here This sentence right here I think gives it 00:14:03.289 --> 00:14:05.350 away the most important evidence comes from former 00:14:05.350 --> 00:14:07.169 military and government officials who have come 00:14:07.169 --> 00:14:08.889 forward to give whistleblower Testimonies and 00:14:08.889 --> 00:14:11.129 a non -governmental initiative to promote disclosure 00:14:11.129 --> 00:14:14.250 of the ET presence. Mm -hmm. It's 2003. You got 00:14:14.250 --> 00:14:18.090 to remember here. He got into this in 2001 Because 00:14:18.090 --> 00:14:21.529 of the disclosure project by Stephen Greer. I 00:14:21.529 --> 00:14:24.350 was just about to say fucking Stephen. I was 00:14:24.350 --> 00:14:26.809 literally about to open my mouth and say Stephen 00:14:26.809 --> 00:14:29.990 Greer. He is the one who brought this guy into 00:14:29.990 --> 00:14:33.830 this world. Not again. There's a citation at 00:14:33.830 --> 00:14:35.929 the end of the sentence that takes you to the 00:14:35.929 --> 00:14:38.970 disclosure project by Dr. Stephen Greer. Most 00:14:38.970 --> 00:14:41.269 people, once they come into contact with Stephen 00:14:41.269 --> 00:14:43.129 Greer, they're like, Stephen Greer, can you leave 00:14:43.129 --> 00:14:46.190 me alone and stop implicating me like I gave 00:14:46.190 --> 00:14:48.129 you anything? Not everybody, though. But this 00:14:48.129 --> 00:14:50.649 guy is like... This guy has no information to 00:14:50.649 --> 00:14:52.750 give him. And I think that's the important thing. 00:14:52.889 --> 00:14:55.070 It's when you have information that Stephen Greer 00:14:55.070 --> 00:14:57.330 wants, or you have something Stephen Greer wants, 00:14:57.649 --> 00:15:00.899 you get used by him. I could see that because 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:03.860 this guy at this point, he's looking pretty good. 00:15:03.860 --> 00:15:07.220 He has really good education. And why not? If 00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:10.419 he's open to it, he's only going to help. I mean, 00:15:10.620 --> 00:15:12.639 Stephen Greer is a fucking grifter. So this guy 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.860 is only going to help. The funny thing is, I 00:15:14.860 --> 00:15:17.139 can't actually find a relationship between them. 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:21.080 He was just influenced by Stephen Greer's disclosure 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.980 project in 2001, where he had that meeting at 00:15:23.980 --> 00:15:26.980 the the official press room or the press. I forget 00:15:26.980 --> 00:15:29.879 where that was. Yeah, I know exactly what you're 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.679 talking about. Yeah, and it was somewhere that 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.000 he just rented a room in it, right? But he makes 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.440 it sound real official. But the American University 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.740 is in DC, so he was in DC at the time that Stephen 00:15:40.740 --> 00:15:43.240 Greer was doing that and it left such an impression 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.700 on him. He decided he needed to start exo -politics 00:15:46.700 --> 00:15:49.600 and just analyze everything from the presumption 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.860 that there is a secret space program. Son of 00:15:52.860 --> 00:15:58.370 a bitch. Yeah. OK, yeah, I accept it. So, you 00:15:58.370 --> 00:16:01.269 need to put any type of skepticism when you're 00:16:01.269 --> 00:16:04.049 reading this guy's stuff on hold because he has 00:16:04.049 --> 00:16:06.809 just blown past skepticism and just accepted 00:16:06.809 --> 00:16:09.669 everything. It doesn't even seem like it was 00:16:09.669 --> 00:16:12.769 even on his radar. It came across and he was 00:16:12.769 --> 00:16:16.629 like, I'm all in on this. Yeah. I am all in. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.299 And as far as I can tell, he hasn't, after 2004, 00:16:21.620 --> 00:16:23.820 he like never teaches again, and this appears 00:16:23.820 --> 00:16:28.019 to be like his whole time gig. I love it. When 00:16:28.019 --> 00:16:31.059 you get a calling, you get a calling. Just like 00:16:31.059 --> 00:16:34.019 regular person Andy. So first off, he starts 00:16:34.019 --> 00:16:36.559 with what's the evidence of a historic ET presence 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.860 in Iraq. The strongest available evidence for 00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:41.860 a historic ET, and sorry, this is something that 00:16:41.860 --> 00:16:45.899 bugs me, he uses Anne. historical ET presence. 00:16:46.139 --> 00:16:48.779 If it's an H, it makes a H sound. It's a consonant. 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.080 It can't have an N. If it has an N, you're saying 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.000 historical. No, we're not saying historical. 00:16:55.179 --> 00:16:58.159 We're saying historical. It's A. Isn't he Australian? 00:16:58.500 --> 00:17:02.220 Yeah, that's true. It's not really English. Oh, 00:17:03.460 --> 00:17:05.880 he is speaking Australian. I've watched him. 00:17:11.139 --> 00:17:14.539 So the strongest available evidence for historical 00:17:14.539 --> 00:17:17.200 ET presence in Iraq comes from cuneiform tablets 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.279 directly recording the beliefs and activities 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:21.460 of the ancient Sumerians whose civilization began 00:17:21.460 --> 00:17:25.099 almost overnight in 3800 BC. Most of these cuneiform 00:17:25.099 --> 00:17:28.140 tablets relate stories of the Sumerians interacting 00:17:28.140 --> 00:17:31.079 with their gods. Most archaeologists initially 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.400 accepted that these were merely myths and attached 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.759 little importance to them other than giving insight 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.059 into the mytho -religious beliefs of the ancient 00:17:38.059 --> 00:17:40.720 Sumerians. That viewpoint received a major challenge 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:44.000 in 1976 when the Sumerian scholar Zachariah Stitchin 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:46.220 published the first of a series of books on his 00:17:46.220 --> 00:17:48.420 translations of thousands of Sumerian tablets. 00:17:48.539 --> 00:17:50.539 Rather than treating the stories of the gods 00:17:50.539 --> 00:17:53.119 as myths that had little empirical relevance, 00:17:53.380 --> 00:17:55.839 Stitchin decided to interpret the tablets as 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:58.059 literal descriptions of events as they occurred. 00:17:58.220 --> 00:18:00.480 Stitchin's translations of Sumerian cuneiform 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.640 tablets reveal precise information on a range 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.160 of topics that he argues could not have been 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:07.829 possible for a civilization at the initial stages 00:18:07.829 --> 00:18:10.069 of its development with no obvious predecessor 00:18:10.069 --> 00:18:12.410 civilization to borrow from. The cuneiform tablets 00:18:12.410 --> 00:18:14.670 revealed all their knowledge came from a race 00:18:14.670 --> 00:18:17.250 of extraterrestrial visitors called the Anunnaki, 00:18:17.450 --> 00:18:20.109 those who come from heaven to earth, who were 00:18:20.109 --> 00:18:22.829 not only teachers of the Cimmerians but also 00:18:22.829 --> 00:18:24.970 played a role in the creation of the human race. 00:18:25.250 --> 00:18:27.430 The origins of this ET race was a planet called 00:18:27.430 --> 00:18:29.710 Nabiru that had a long elliptical journey around 00:18:29.710 --> 00:18:31.490 the sun and returned to this region the solar 00:18:31.490 --> 00:18:34.859 system every 3600 years. We probably should do 00:18:34.859 --> 00:18:38.039 a Zachariah Sitchin episode at some point. Is 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.559 he on the list even? I think he's on the list. 00:18:40.579 --> 00:18:42.339 I sent you a picture of him. He looks like Richard 00:18:42.339 --> 00:18:44.559 Doty. He's Richard Doty. Yeah, he does look like 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.380 Richard Doty. But basically, he's the start of 00:18:47.380 --> 00:18:49.960 the ancient alien theory. There's nothing before 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.059 him. It's the 1970s. Boom, he comes along. It 00:18:53.059 --> 00:18:56.759 would be a tie between him and... Traits of the 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.339 Gods, Eric Van Daniken. Yeah, our other friend 00:18:59.339 --> 00:19:01.640 Eric Van Daniken. Who's got the theme park. I 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:04.059 wanna go there. I can't believe you didn't go. 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:06.900 I didn't know about it at that time when I was 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:09.279 in Switzerland. It has to be a tie between the 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.440 two. I believe they're around the same period, 00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:15.000 just going off the top of my head. They're very 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:16.420 close. Everything's off the top of my head today. 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.099 Eric von Daniken is second, and I know this because 00:19:20.099 --> 00:19:23.200 of the next sentences here. Okay. I do trust 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.059 this part of his research. Fair enough. When 00:19:26.059 --> 00:19:28.240 Sitchin's innovative work was first published, 00:19:28.380 --> 00:19:31.200 it raised great controversy and intense debate 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:33.559 between and those either for or against his thesis 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:36.859 of a historic ET presence in Sumer. That was 00:19:36.859 --> 00:19:38.779 responsible for starting the remarkable Sumerian 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:41.039 civilization. Among those responding favorably 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.839 to Sitchin's thesis included established popular 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.720 authors such as Erik Mondaniken, who had himself 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:49.220 written in 1969 the best -selling book, Chariot 00:19:49.220 --> 00:19:51.799 of the Gods, that proposed a historic ET presence 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.079 in different parts of the planet. So he was talking 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:55.819 about it, but he wasn't talking about it in Sumer. 00:19:57.019 --> 00:20:00.200 pretty much. Yeah. Okay. Another popular author, 00:20:00.339 --> 00:20:02.700 David Patrick Childress, outlines with great 00:20:02.700 --> 00:20:05.279 detail the ET technology possessed by ancient 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:07.579 civilizations in his various books. Less well 00:20:07.579 --> 00:20:09.839 -known authors, such as William Henry, have similarly 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.339 published books supporting Sitchin's thesis. 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:15.619 And Chelsea, William Henry wrote a book called 00:20:15.619 --> 00:20:18.180 One Foot in Atlantis. And I just want you to 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:20.900 Google William Henry One Foot in Atlantis. The 00:20:20.900 --> 00:20:23.099 picture they have on Goodreads for this guy, 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:25.339 I just get really weird vibes. He's not what 00:20:25.339 --> 00:20:28.880 I expected in any way. No, he seems like a washed 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:31.019 up movie star. And he should be wearing a Hawaiian 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:34.660 shirt. He should be. I would have to agree with 00:20:34.660 --> 00:20:37.000 you. It's actually really weird that he's not. 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:39.700 I would have to agree with you here. And maybe 00:20:39.700 --> 00:20:42.940 that's why I get weird vibes. Yeah, I totally 00:20:42.940 --> 00:20:45.400 get it. Yeah, he should be. Well, he wrote a 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.099 lot of stuff. Yeah, he did. And they're all very 00:20:47.099 --> 00:20:49.519 weird books. I was just about to say that. To 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:51.660 support Sitchin's thesis, many authors typically 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:54.180 cite biblical texts that make reference to the 00:20:54.180 --> 00:20:56.789 gods that resided on Earth. and interacted with 00:20:56.789 --> 00:20:59.289 humanity. The biblical text most referred to 00:20:59.289 --> 00:21:02.049 as the Apocryphal Book of Enoch. While the Book 00:21:02.049 --> 00:21:03.890 of Enoch was excluded in most versions of the 00:21:03.890 --> 00:21:06.109 Old Testament, it was nevertheless part of ancient 00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:08.509 Hebrew scholarship and indeed is included in 00:21:08.509 --> 00:21:10.609 the Ethiopian and Slavic versions of the Old 00:21:10.609 --> 00:21:13.029 Testament. I think at one point we do have to 00:21:13.029 --> 00:21:15.190 touch base on like the religious background of 00:21:15.190 --> 00:21:18.329 Ethiopia because I find that fascinating. Like 00:21:18.329 --> 00:21:22.029 Ethiopia has Jewish populations. They have like 00:21:22.029 --> 00:21:24.450 basically every Abrahamic faith religion there 00:21:24.450 --> 00:21:27.809 and And they also claimed to have a copy of the 00:21:27.809 --> 00:21:30.829 Ten Commandments. Not a copy, the Ten Commandments. 00:21:31.089 --> 00:21:33.130 Oh sorry, Ark of the Covenant. I was just going 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:35.210 to say, they also claimed to have the Ark of 00:21:35.210 --> 00:21:37.329 the Covenant in Ethiopia. Also it was under attack 00:21:37.329 --> 00:21:39.430 there at one point, remember? You bring up a 00:21:39.430 --> 00:21:42.029 very good point. What's going on in Ethiopia? 00:21:42.250 --> 00:21:45.190 And has British Yandhi been there? Back to this 00:21:45.190 --> 00:21:47.410 episode. Book of Enoch describes a rebel group 00:21:47.410 --> 00:21:49.950 of angels, the Nephilim, who numbered 200 who 00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:52.170 settled the earth and interbred with the human 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:54.289 population before being recalled and punished 00:21:54.289 --> 00:21:56.690 by their superiors, the Elohim. The Book of Enoch 00:21:56.690 --> 00:21:59.529 provides contextual details for mysterious verses 00:21:59.529 --> 00:22:01.789 in the Book of Genesis, which described a time 00:22:01.789 --> 00:22:04.809 when the sons of gods, Nephilim and Unaki, interbred 00:22:04.809 --> 00:22:07.990 with humanity and created a race of giants slash 00:22:07.990 --> 00:22:10.309 heroes that ruled over the rest of humanity. 00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:13.109 Quote, the Nephilim were on earth in those days 00:22:13.109 --> 00:22:15.410 and also afterwards when the sons of gods went 00:22:15.410 --> 00:22:17.950 to the daughters of men and had children by them. 00:22:18.089 --> 00:22:20.809 They were heroes of old, men of renown." End 00:22:20.809 --> 00:22:23.430 quote. Supporters of Sitchin's thesis say that 00:22:23.430 --> 00:22:25.670 this is part of the biblical evidence that an 00:22:25.670 --> 00:22:28.069 advanced ET race did in fact exist on Earth, 00:22:28.269 --> 00:22:30.289 had a long interaction with humanity, and even 00:22:30.289 --> 00:22:32.150 played a role in the creation of the race. That's 00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:34.829 basically ancient aliens in a nutshell. There 00:22:34.829 --> 00:22:37.170 you go. It really is. Like you could save yourself 00:22:37.170 --> 00:22:39.569 10 seasons of the show. He actually did a really 00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:42.150 good job synthesizing that whole thing. In addition 00:22:42.150 --> 00:22:43.910 to the growing number of authors in Depending 00:22:43.910 --> 00:22:46.299 on Archaeology, and biblical commentators supporting 00:22:46.299 --> 00:22:48.779 Sitchin's thesis, there is a burging number of 00:22:48.779 --> 00:22:51.519 individuals who claim to be in telepathic communication 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.660 with ET races who reveal information on the historic 00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:57.819 ET presence in Sumer. One of these ET channels 00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:00.460 is Delayla Starr, who claims to be in touch with 00:23:00.460 --> 00:23:04.059 beings from Nibiru itself. She regularly releases 00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:06.500 online information from the Anunnaki themselves 00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:09.359 on her website. Another is Sheldon Nidle, who 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:12.859 channels an ET race from the Starr system Sirius, 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.019 who gives extensive information on the historic 00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:17.299 presence and influence of the Anunnaki in his 00:23:17.299 --> 00:23:19.720 books and websites. There is great controversy 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.259 over the extent to which such a disparate collection 00:23:22.259 --> 00:23:24.880 of evidentiary sources can substantiate the sitch 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:27.579 and thesis of a historic ET presence consumer. 00:23:27.740 --> 00:23:30.180 Despite the controversy generated by such sources, 00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:32.319 they provide a wealth of information that merits 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.940 closer examination in terms of their public policy 00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:38.500 implications. Given that exopolitics is based 00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:40.960 on the premise of an ET presence that is subject 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.220 to non -disclosure by clandestine in government 00:23:43.220 --> 00:23:46.059 organizations, it is possible to provide an exo 00:23:46.059 --> 00:23:48.799 -political perspective on Sitchin's thesis despite 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.380 the ongoing debate over the consistency and accuracy. 00:23:51.460 --> 00:23:54.740 I just love, he's just forgoing that. He does 00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:56.940 not even have to worry about claiming that these 00:23:56.940 --> 00:23:59.140 are correct. Let's just claim they're correct 00:23:59.140 --> 00:24:02.299 and move on from there. Well, exactly. That just 00:24:02.299 --> 00:24:04.339 makes it easier. It makes it so much easier. 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.779 Oh yeah. It is written in such a institutional 00:24:08.779 --> 00:24:11.279 way, but it's hilarious that he just brushes 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.190 that aside. Well, you gotta think, he has the 00:24:14.190 --> 00:24:18.170 know -with -all to be able to put it in an academic 00:24:18.170 --> 00:24:21.369 way. Oh, he's got the fancy words. Yeah, exactly. 00:24:21.690 --> 00:24:23.930 From here he goes on, How does the historic ET 00:24:23.930 --> 00:24:27.230 presence relate to US policy in Iraq? An independent 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:29.609 archaeologist that discusses a direct link between 00:24:29.609 --> 00:24:32.390 the ancient ET presence in Sumer and current 00:24:32.390 --> 00:24:35.450 US focus on the regime of Saddam Hussein is William 00:24:35.450 --> 00:24:37.930 Henry, that man who should be wearing a Hawaiian 00:24:37.930 --> 00:24:40.890 shirt. Right, yeah, I remember him. Henry's main 00:24:40.890 --> 00:24:43.569 thesis. is that there existed in Sumerian times 00:24:43.569 --> 00:24:46.109 a technological device which he describes as 00:24:46.109 --> 00:24:49.529 a stargate that the Anunnaki Nephilim used to 00:24:49.529 --> 00:24:51.849 travel back and forth from their home world and 00:24:51.849 --> 00:24:54.109 the earth. Henry focuses on the following scene 00:24:54.109 --> 00:24:56.950 described by Sitchin's interpretation of cuneiform 00:24:56.950 --> 00:25:00.210 tablets of an Uruk ritual text. And this is the 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:02.750 text, and I should say as translated by Sitchin. 00:25:18.310 --> 00:25:21.309 flanking a gateway through which Anu is making 00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:24.319 a grand entry. End of that. Rather than a simple 00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.519 temple scene involving the chief Anunnaki of 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.299 the Sumerians, Anu and his two sons Enlil and 00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:32.619 Enki, Henry proposes that the above scene represents 00:25:32.619 --> 00:25:36.059 a transportation device used by Anu and others 00:25:36.059 --> 00:25:39.079 from the elite Anunnaki. If so, then such a device 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.799 is most likely located in the Sumerian city of 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.339 Uruk, which was the founding city of the Sumerian 00:25:44.339 --> 00:25:46.980 civilization in the home of Gilgamesh, the famed 00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:49.519 king of the Epic of Gilgamesh. I sit in an author 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:51.579 such as David Childress, who I'm pretty sure 00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:55.779 was on ancient aliens, who discussed the various 00:25:55.779 --> 00:25:58.160 technologies used by ETs and ancient civilizations, 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:00.920 missed the significance of the Stargate in their 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.559 own translations of the above text and investigations 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.640 of ET transportation. Both operated in a controversial 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.299 paradigm where transportation occurs through 00:26:09.299 --> 00:26:12.039 rocket -propelled vehicles. Sitchin focuses on 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.180 rocket -propelled spacecrafts in his description 00:26:14.180 --> 00:26:16.559 of the Anunnaki and their various trips to and 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.779 from the Earth, for example describing the transportation 00:26:18.779 --> 00:26:21.220 moving hundreds of them. The Anunnaki Kevin, 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.900 or Igig, were true astronauts who stayed aboard 00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:25.819 the spacecrafts without actually landing on Earth. 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.900 Orbiting Earth, these spacecrafts launched and 00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:29.839 received the shuttlecrafts to and from Earth. 00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:31.839 It therefore can be concluded that there were 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.500 two forms of transportation used by the Anunnaki. 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.099 One was a form of rocket technology. Another 00:26:37.099 --> 00:26:39.559 transportation technology was the Stargate, which 00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:42.779 presumably was used only by the highest class 00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:45.319 who dispensed the tasks of harvesting the Earth's 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.680 resources to the resident and space -based Anunnaki's 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.309 lesser god slash rebel. angels. Interpreting 00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:53.869 the Babylonian epic of creation, one gains an 00:26:53.869 --> 00:26:56.089 idea of the hierarchy of the Anunnaki and the 00:26:56.089 --> 00:26:59.250 way the supreme god Marduk dispensed tasks of 00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:01.869 his subordinates Anu chief of the Anunnaki. And 00:27:01.869 --> 00:27:04.549 this is another quote, assigned to Anu to heed 00:27:04.549 --> 00:27:07.470 his instructions 300 in the heavens he stationed 00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:10.349 as a guard the ways of earth to define from the 00:27:10.349 --> 00:27:13.069 heaven and on earth 600 he made reside after 00:27:13.069 --> 00:27:15.710 he all their instructions had ordered to the 00:27:15.710 --> 00:27:18.690 Anunnaki of heaven and of earth he allotted their 00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:21.529 assignments. end of that part i'm not sure what 00:27:21.529 --> 00:27:23.190 to call those i think they are quotes but i don't 00:27:23.190 --> 00:27:28.369 know for sure is it a different symbol than they're 00:27:28.369 --> 00:27:32.109 not quoted they're they're um okay he's pushing 00:27:32.109 --> 00:27:34.289 tab whatever i don't know what you call that 00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:39.769 he's indented that pair the sumerians this is 00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:43.230 the area of the middle east that we're talking 00:27:43.230 --> 00:27:45.589 about i just want to put it out there and make 00:27:45.589 --> 00:27:49.210 sure we're talking about sumer the ancient region 00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:52.710 of Middle East, yes. Okay, okay, okay. Just wanted 00:27:52.710 --> 00:27:55.369 to make sure we were on the same page. Yeah, 00:27:55.390 --> 00:27:58.329 no, it's the Cimmerian area, which predominantly 00:27:58.329 --> 00:28:01.130 was in Iraq, which is technically where, like, 00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:03.170 the Garden of Eden, everything's supposed to 00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:05.210 be according to all these people. What? Okay, 00:28:05.210 --> 00:28:07.529 that's crazy. I had no idea about that. That's 00:28:07.529 --> 00:28:09.589 cool. All of these religions developed in the 00:28:09.589 --> 00:28:11.609 Middle East, so the Garden of Eden is in the 00:28:11.609 --> 00:28:14.569 Middle East. I couldn't just say be a jet setter 00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:17.410 and go there and see the Garden of... You're 00:28:17.410 --> 00:28:20.509 no air miles Andy Chelsea. I'm not we can't wait. 00:28:20.670 --> 00:28:22.789 Is it in Bahrain? Do you think he's been there? 00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:25.589 It might be in Bahrain Maybe he might have been 00:28:25.589 --> 00:28:27.750 trying to track down the garden if he did. I 00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:32.589 think we're on to something. Holy shit This might 00:28:32.589 --> 00:28:39.900 be an episode, okay for that episode Thus, the 00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:42.180 Anunnaki operated outposts both on Earth and 00:28:42.180 --> 00:28:44.339 in space to maintain their control over the planet. 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.619 Given the strict hierarchy of authority described 00:28:46.619 --> 00:28:49.599 by Sitchin in his detailed analysis of the Anunnaki 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.559 and their interactions with one another, and 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.619 humanity, it's likely that the Stargate would 00:28:53.619 --> 00:28:56.180 have been revered by the resident Anunnaki and 00:28:56.180 --> 00:28:58.319 humanity who could only observe its operation 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.519 but were not allowed to use it themselves. By 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.980 the way, I feel like, Chelsea, you heard that 00:29:02.980 --> 00:29:05.339 description of the Stargate. There's not a lot 00:29:05.339 --> 00:29:07.619 of talk about the Stargate at all, is there? 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:10.599 No, no. It's mostly about rockets. That's what 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.059 we see a lot in this, what would you call it? 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.779 This business subject, I think is probably the 00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:20.319 right word. There's a lot of liberties taken. 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.759 I think it's more aptly called business, since 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.559 you use that term. Yeah. There's a lot of liberties 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:32.250 taken and they are run with them. Oh yeah. Also, 00:29:32.609 --> 00:29:34.970 weirdly enough, I actually kind of feel like 00:29:34.970 --> 00:29:38.269 the movie Stargate is based off of the Zachary 00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:43.769 Sitchin stuff, but it came out a while before 00:29:43.769 --> 00:29:46.289 this movie. Was it the show or the movie that 00:29:46.289 --> 00:29:48.269 I'm thinking of that was good? Oh, the movie 00:29:48.269 --> 00:29:50.950 is great. The movie came out in 94. The movie 00:29:50.950 --> 00:29:52.970 came first, right? Oh, yeah. And then a show 00:29:52.970 --> 00:29:54.650 came after and actually lasted quite a while. 00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:57.829 But 94 is when Stargate came out. The actual 00:29:57.829 --> 00:30:01.450 talk about Stargate's in Iraq didn't happen. 00:30:01.609 --> 00:30:06.849 for another nine years which is crazy that could 00:30:06.849 --> 00:30:09.069 have also been the kickoff point well especially 00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:11.829 like when you hear conspiracy these days and 00:30:11.829 --> 00:30:14.569 all they talk about is like sci -fi for the basis 00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:17.450 of theirs conspiracies yeah it's kind of wild 00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:20.589 that that movie got nine years not being used 00:30:20.589 --> 00:30:25.980 for that it is Yeah, that's what he does. He's 00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.019 intimidating. He was a witness of UFOs. Yeah, 00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:31.259 he knows all about them. I think he also murdered 00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:33.579 Disney. Good. I don't know if it's ever come 00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:36.839 up at this show, but the last words uttered by 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.680 Walt Disney were Kurt Russell. What? Why? Just 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.940 because he was a child star actor at the time 00:30:42.940 --> 00:30:46.900 for Disney. It's super weird. But yeah, one of 00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:49.940 his things. I would have to agree that that is 00:30:49.940 --> 00:31:07.660 super weird. As such, there have been only a 00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.619 limited number of stargates around the planet, 00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:11.599 with the Sumerian Stargate being located in the 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.119 most important of ancient Sumerian cities, the 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.380 most likely being the ancient capital of Uruk, 00:31:16.579 --> 00:31:18.819 home of the ancient kings which is located in 00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:22.099 south Iran. Significantly, after a 12 -year low 00:31:22.099 --> 00:31:24.400 on excavation, a team of German researchers in 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.660 2002 resumed excavation in the buried city of 00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:30.480 Uruk using a magnetometer. never heard of that, 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.839 which is able to detect the presence of man -made 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.099 objects beneath soil and a powerful computer 00:31:35.099 --> 00:31:38.059 system in Germany. German geophysicists were 00:31:38.059 --> 00:31:41.079 able to map out the buried structure of the sprawling 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.160 ancient capital of 5 .5 kilometers that was where 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.980 Sumerian civilization began. An important event 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:48.920 in the Sumerian description of the Anunnaki was 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.079 the latter's final departure from the planet 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.279 during a series of cataclysmic events that culminated 00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.240 in the period 1800 to 1700 BC. Indeed, conventional 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.359 archaeologists support the view that there was 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.299 a regional cataclysmic event that occurred at 00:32:02.299 --> 00:32:04.579 that time, if in fact, there were two modes of 00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:06.819 transformation used by Anunnaki. When most of 00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:09.319 the resident lesser Anunnaki left by conventional 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.059 rocket ships, elite Anunnaki most likely left 00:32:12.059 --> 00:32:14.559 by the Stargate and closed it down. Predictably, 00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:17.240 given the reference and awe surrounding the Stargate, 00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:19.960 it would not have been left unprotected in the 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.480 interim period between their departure and its 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.440 reactivation with the prophesied return of the 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.230 Anunnaki. Why does he make the assumption that 00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:35.799 they didn't just go on the rocket too? The higher 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.900 -ups are too good for rockets. Maybe he either 00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:40.960 thought too much about it or didn't think enough 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.400 about it. I don't know how to answer that question. 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.279 He thought too much about it. You have to assume, 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.640 and we can't discuss it because we just have 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.359 to move forward with this so we can discuss the 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.500 implications of it. Yeah. But I really like that. 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.180 They couldn't have gone back on the rocket. Those 00:32:56.180 --> 00:32:58.480 higher -class Anunnaki, they're too good for 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.539 rockets. They go on the Stargate. Yeah, it's 00:33:00.539 --> 00:33:02.420 because they're extraterrestrial and they wouldn't 00:33:02.420 --> 00:33:05.049 just... You know, do a normal travel? Provides 00:33:05.049 --> 00:33:07.789 no citations or sources for them shutting down 00:33:07.789 --> 00:33:09.589 the Stargate. I don't know why he makes that 00:33:09.589 --> 00:33:11.230 assumption, but he does. Well, it's the same 00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:13.509 reason that they don't travel by rocket ship. 00:33:13.809 --> 00:33:17.970 Yeah. Of course. They can't have the common folk 00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:19.730 going through the Stargate when they're young. 00:33:19.730 --> 00:33:22.690 No, you can't. and they're not common folks so 00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:24.970 they just have to shut it down after. A wide 00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:27.269 number of sources describe the present era in 00:33:27.269 --> 00:33:30.190 terms of prophesied return of the gods Anunnaki. 00:33:30.410 --> 00:33:32.589 The notion of prophesied return in the context 00:33:32.589 --> 00:33:35.009 of the former Anunnaki presence varies in meaning 00:33:35.009 --> 00:33:36.950 according to three different perspectives. First 00:33:36.950 --> 00:33:39.450 perspective is based simply on the idea of gods 00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:42.069 or Anunnaki physically returning to resume a 00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:44.849 prominent role in influencing human affairs and 00:33:44.849 --> 00:33:47.369 overseeing the use of planet. In such a scenario, 00:33:47.470 --> 00:33:49.930 the first wave of Anunnaki would arrive to create 00:33:49.930 --> 00:33:52.609 the favorable conditions for the anticipated 00:33:52.609 --> 00:33:55.369 return of the Anunnaki elites. This would involve 00:33:55.369 --> 00:33:57.809 the lesser Anunnaki first returning and activating 00:33:57.809 --> 00:33:59.769 the Sumerian Stargate that would be required 00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:01.990 for the return of their leaders. Presumably, 00:34:02.230 --> 00:34:04.950 this would be heralded as a sacred event that 00:34:04.950 --> 00:34:07.529 should be celebrated by all of humanity. The 00:34:07.529 --> 00:34:10.090 authors Clive Prince and Lynn Picknett argue 00:34:10.090 --> 00:34:12.829 that there has been an identifiable chain of 00:34:12.829 --> 00:34:15.329 global events involving key religious and political 00:34:15.329 --> 00:34:17.809 actors preparing humanity for such a return. 00:34:18.010 --> 00:34:19.769 I just have to emphasize again at this point 00:34:19.769 --> 00:34:24.349 this was 2003 22 years ago so yeah hasn't happened 00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:26.730 yet. That's pretty crazy. I don't think I don't 00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:28.670 remember the Anunnaki returning and saying like, 00:34:28.889 --> 00:34:32.489 hey, sorry, our fancies of need us to build this 00:34:32.489 --> 00:34:34.469 thing so they can come and I don't know what 00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:36.630 I don't actually know what the elites do when 00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:39.170 they come here. Sorry. You don't think it was 00:34:39.170 --> 00:34:41.550 that one time when Oh, right. Where they said 00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:44.349 that when they came back and reopened this, you 00:34:44.349 --> 00:34:47.210 know what? Right. Disregard what I just said. 00:34:47.510 --> 00:34:52.199 See? Yeah. Chelsea raises a good point. Second 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.579 perspective on the return of the gods Anunnaki 00:34:54.579 --> 00:34:57.159 is the return of their homeworld, the planet 00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.880 Nibiru. Indeed, there has been such interest 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:02.659 generated by a range of books and online websites 00:35:02.659 --> 00:35:05.059 devoted to the topic of the return of Jibiru, 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.780 which I think we might have to do an episode 00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:10.139 on at some point. Yeah, I've already added it 00:35:10.139 --> 00:35:13.179 to the list. Many authors cite a variety of astronomical 00:35:13.179 --> 00:35:15.679 events supporting the idea of a 10th planet that 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.199 has long been speculated to influence orbits 00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.500 of Uranus and Neptune ever since it was found 00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:23.500 that Pluto could not account for the perturbations 00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.460 of Neptune. In the late 1970s, two astronomers 00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:29.230 from the US Naval Observatory, Tom Van Flandern 00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:31.809 and Richard Harrington be supporting the existence 00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:34.449 of a 10th planet. I do know enough about this 00:35:34.449 --> 00:35:37.530 topic to give a bit of background of what's happened 00:35:37.530 --> 00:35:41.469 since he wrote this. So we did learn on a flyby 00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:45.929 of Neptune and Pluto, we were wrong in believing 00:35:45.929 --> 00:35:47.630 that there should have been a 10th planet based 00:35:47.630 --> 00:35:51.110 on our views of gravity pulls that we expected 00:35:51.110 --> 00:35:54.090 from Neptune and Pluto, but we do still believe 00:35:54.090 --> 00:35:55.989 there's a 10th planet out there. We're still 00:35:55.989 --> 00:35:59.409 looking for I have a fringy mini about potentials 00:35:59.409 --> 00:36:02.130 for a tenth planet out there and by tenth I mean 00:36:02.130 --> 00:36:04.650 a ninth now because this is before we took Pluto 00:36:04.650 --> 00:36:07.829 out as a planet. I really am sad by that still. 00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:11.389 It still stinks. I fully get it. So we do think 00:36:11.389 --> 00:36:13.570 that there's another planet. Yes, and in fact, 00:36:13.590 --> 00:36:15.989 there's really good evidence of there being that 00:36:15.989 --> 00:36:18.869 we could have spotted it. And it's Nibiru. Yeah, 00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:21.030 obviously. And we just have to name it that at 00:36:21.030 --> 00:36:22.389 this point. Yeah, we'll cover that in the fringe 00:36:22.389 --> 00:36:24.469 sheet, maybe. How they're surviving on a planet 00:36:24.469 --> 00:36:27.489 that is so far away we have no way of seeing 00:36:27.489 --> 00:36:31.190 it, really, is beyond me. But Nibiru's out there, 00:36:31.489 --> 00:36:34.300 guys. We just heard the science. that is disproven 00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:36.579 and then re -proven in a slightly different way 00:36:36.579 --> 00:36:38.880 later. So anyhow I just need to put that in there 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.980 that it's changed how we got to the whole ninth 00:36:41.980 --> 00:36:43.679 planet which is technically the tenth planet 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.019 from this time's point of view in here. You need 00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:48.179 to be in here for some reason. The most widely 00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:50.239 cited reference to support the thesis of a tenth 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.579 planet that is known but not released to the 00:36:52.579 --> 00:36:54.980 general public is a series of press releases 00:36:54.980 --> 00:36:57.840 by the astronomical team that was searching part 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.780 of the sky which calculations by Van Flandern 00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:03.730 and Harrington suggested would be where the 10th 00:37:03.730 --> 00:37:07.130 planet was. In December 1983, the chief astronomer 00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:10.940 in charge of the satellite run by Jet Propulsion 00:37:10.940 --> 00:37:14.239 Laboratory Dr. Jerry Neugebauer announced possible 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.280 confirmation of such a planet. The Washington 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.780 Post reporter summarizing the announcement wrote 00:37:18.780 --> 00:37:21.699 quote a heavenly body possibly as large as Jupiter 00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:23.619 and possibly part of the solar system has been 00:37:23.619 --> 00:37:25.300 found in the direction of the constellation of 00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:28.039 Orion by an orbiting telescope end quote after 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.519 a total of six major newspapers covered the announcement 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.880 there was a retraction of the announcement and 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.460 a public silence by the astronomer on the possible 00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:38.460 existence of a tenth Now, at this time, rumors 00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:41.400 began to emerge of an active campaign of suppression 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.340 of information and intimidation by clandestine 00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:46.960 government organizations. For example, one of 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.119 the astronomers, Dr. Richard Harrington, spoke 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.880 publicly and wrote articles on the hypothetical 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.599 planet X and there has been speculation that 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.019 this directly contributed to his untimely death 00:37:57.019 --> 00:38:00.619 by natural causes in 1992. A third perspective 00:38:00.619 --> 00:38:03.659 on what the prophesied return of the gods Anunnaki 00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:05.980 means can be found in authors who focus on the 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.679 significance on the upcoming end of the current 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.440 Mayan calendar, according to John Major Jenkins. 00:38:12.019 --> 00:38:15.320 We have to have this because this is pre -2012. 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.960 It's the same, yep. The Mayans were aware of 00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.719 the way the solar ecliptic plane comes into alignment 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:26.260 with the galactic plane on a periodic basis. 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.079 This makes it possible for more intense cosmic 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.599 energy to reach the Earth from the galactic core. 00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:34.159 There is then a corresponding increase or decrease 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.090 in the level of human conscious i .e. parts of 00:38:37.090 --> 00:38:40.070 the brain either go online or offline according 00:38:40.070 --> 00:38:42.750 jenkins Near 2012 corresponds to the end of the 00:38:42.750 --> 00:38:45.889 current mind cycle and will lead to a rapid transformation 00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:48.409 of consciousness. The numerous authors refer 00:38:48.409 --> 00:38:51.550 to this as the new age of more enlightened global 00:38:51.550 --> 00:38:53.889 thinking and increased human potential. Gee, 00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:56.170 aren't you so happy with all the political changes 00:38:56.170 --> 00:39:00.849 that have been since 2012, Chelsea? But everyone 00:39:00.849 --> 00:39:03.590 was on it back then. What a time to be alive. 00:39:03.829 --> 00:39:06.070 I mean, I did find that exciting. Everyone was 00:39:06.070 --> 00:39:09.449 cashing in on that. Yeah. David Wilcock was at 00:39:09.449 --> 00:39:12.309 his peak! Everybody was talking about it. And 00:39:12.309 --> 00:39:14.630 then we all just moved on from there. Nobody 00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:18.050 retracted statements. Nobody corrected themselves. 00:39:18.250 --> 00:39:21.409 We just all moved on. I am actually really surprised 00:39:21.409 --> 00:39:23.809 that nobody took the stance that the world did 00:39:23.809 --> 00:39:27.570 end and we aren't actually alive anymore. Oh, 00:39:27.769 --> 00:39:31.030 that would be a good one. Why didn't anybody 00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:34.300 do that? Why didn't they? That's, like, the perfect 00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:38.099 way to do it! Oh my gosh! Especially David Wilcock! 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.860 Right! Like, why wasn't he like, we did this 00:39:40.860 --> 00:39:44.739 then? You'll see, he's not smart enough! Can 00:39:44.739 --> 00:39:47.239 you imagine, though, being like, welcome to the 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.099 other side, folks! We made it! This is purgatory! 00:39:50.659 --> 00:39:54.420 Wow! Why didn't that happen? Nobody did that! 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.699 Wow! What the fuck? I know! Anyhow, the prophesied 00:39:58.699 --> 00:40:01.260 return of the gods may therefore signify a rapid 00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:03.760 inhuman consciousness as dormant parts of the 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.440 brain come online when the solar ecliptic comes 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.980 into alignment with the galactic plane. In this 00:40:08.980 --> 00:40:11.500 explanation, humanity itself would develop god 00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:13.940 -like powers which spontaneously become accessible 00:40:13.940 --> 00:40:16.599 to large numbers of humanity. A number of authors, 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.880 for example, have been describing the amazing 00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.940 abilities and psychic powers of an increasing 00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:23.300 number of children worldwide. Is that the indigo 00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:25.179 kids, Chelsea? Is that the color they called 00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:28.340 them? Or the violet? kids indigo you got it exactly 00:40:28.340 --> 00:40:30.139 right which is an episode i think we need to 00:40:30.139 --> 00:40:32.719 do in the future we lived in a good one because 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:35.260 we got the grifters we didn't see the beginning 00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:38.659 of it and like all the like weirdness with like 00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:41.079 all the guys who made no money off this passion 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.659 of really weird walkingness we got the guys who 00:40:43.659 --> 00:40:45.780 were like i could make money off this and they 00:40:45.780 --> 00:40:50.420 didn't but they tried we had richard doty and 00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:53.960 bill moore like paved the way they crawled so 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.940 that david wilcock could suffer His suffering 00:40:56.940 --> 00:41:00.079 just brings us so much joy. In sum, the available 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.460 information on the prophesied return of the gods 00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:04.679 can be understood to signify an important milestone 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.019 in the growth of human civilization. The prophesied 00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:09.820 return can be interpreted either literally or 00:41:09.820 --> 00:41:12.940 metaphorically to mean either a physical return 00:41:12.940 --> 00:41:15.340 of the gods at Anakki, the return of the mysterious 00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:17.639 10th planet of the solar system, or a rapid growth 00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.760 of consciousness of humanity if the solar plane 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.980 comes into alignment with the galactic plane. 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.380 Despite the controversy over that precisely, 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:26.769 such a prophesied The prophesied return signifies 00:41:26.769 --> 00:41:30.369 the factors in such a return that most pertain 00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:33.190 to the current political situation in Iraq and 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:36.050 preemptive military intervention can be identified 00:41:36.050 --> 00:41:39.309 and analyzed. The first factor that an ET transportation 00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:41.829 device, a Stargate, or some other important ET 00:41:41.829 --> 00:41:44.269 artifact may lie buried in the desert of southern 00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:47.530 Iraq, which presumably will play a role in the 00:41:47.530 --> 00:41:50.210 prophesied return of the god. Second, it is possible 00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:52.250 that there will be a return of a 10th planet 00:41:52.250 --> 00:41:54.409 that plays a critical role in the return of the 00:41:54.510 --> 00:41:57.889 and or which significantly impacts on the globe. 00:41:57.929 --> 00:42:00.269 Finally there is the potential of a rapid acceleration 00:42:00.269 --> 00:42:02.469 of human consciousness as the end of the mind 00:42:02.469 --> 00:42:06.030 calendar 2012 approaches. I just love the talk 00:42:06.030 --> 00:42:08.710 of 2012 because we haven't talked about that 00:42:08.710 --> 00:42:12.710 as a podcast. I love listening in like the 2007 00:42:12.710 --> 00:42:16.090 to 2012 range. And it made me really nervous 00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:19.309 the closer that we got to it. But I also loved 00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:22.010 how many people at that time started backing 00:42:22.010 --> 00:42:25.000 off the claims of 2012 as a got closer. I don't 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.079 even know where to file this but I'm getting 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.800 so many things added to our spreadsheet right 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.639 now. I can believe that. And 2012 is going on 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:35.699 there right now. Oh god yeah we do need to do 00:42:35.699 --> 00:42:37.480 a 2012 episode. We really do need to do a 2012 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:38.719 episode. We're gonna call it party like it's 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.570 2012. It was a special time. It really was. It 00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:46.909 got built up so much. And people that were not 00:42:46.909 --> 00:42:49.610 alive for it, I do think we'd need to explain 00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:52.050 that situation to them, or at least don't remember 00:42:52.050 --> 00:42:54.570 it. I was just going to say, they're still pretty 00:42:54.570 --> 00:42:58.730 young at this point. They weren't alive for 2012. 00:42:58.869 --> 00:43:01.269 They are coming into their podcast years. They 00:43:01.269 --> 00:43:04.190 would have just been turning 13. I think they're, 00:43:04.309 --> 00:43:07.110 um, is it flossing? They're flossing hard or 00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:11.980 something like that? Anyhow. Yeah, in Ohio. It's 00:43:11.980 --> 00:43:17.000 really hard to comprehend. I know. But 2012 would 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.139 be important to them. And Chelsea, if you can 00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:22.699 remember correctly, we are actually talking about 00:43:22.699 --> 00:43:26.019 a stargate in Iraq, which has weirdly not been 00:43:26.019 --> 00:43:28.219 talked about that much in this paper. Right. 00:43:28.380 --> 00:43:30.880 But this is the part where we get to it. Oh good. 00:43:31.340 --> 00:43:33.679 Exopolitical analysis of U .S. policy towards 00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.079 Iraq. I'm also realizing this episode probably 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.840 will have to cut it and make it two. Oh man, 00:43:39.059 --> 00:44:00.469 you really didn't want to do that. Thank you 00:44:00.469 --> 00:44:02.869 for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 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