WEBVTT 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.599 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:15.289 us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome 00:00:15.289 --> 00:00:18.109 to Journey to the Fringe, now accepting bribes, 00:00:18.329 --> 00:00:20.390 which I think I'm actually supposed to call sponsors. 00:00:20.890 --> 00:00:24.269 We are your podcast hosts who are, we know our 00:00:24.269 --> 00:00:26.070 words, we're good at them. Don't worry about 00:00:26.070 --> 00:00:28.649 it, Taylor and Chelsea. You're here today following 00:00:28.649 --> 00:00:31.870 up on the, I think it's J4 productions, Chelsea, 00:00:31.910 --> 00:00:33.890 or is it J3 productions? Three, you were so close. 00:00:33.890 --> 00:00:37.590 Okay, okay. Just minus one. I felt J4 sounded 00:00:37.590 --> 00:00:40.049 better, which is why I went with that. I thought 00:00:40.049 --> 00:00:42.909 surely it can't be J3, that just sounds wrong. 00:00:42.939 --> 00:00:45.619 You got to go with the one that sounds more right 00:00:45.619 --> 00:00:48.500 before sounds better, right? It does actually 00:00:48.500 --> 00:00:50.539 it sounds more official. But I guess you got 00:00:50.539 --> 00:00:52.560 to have an extra J and J's are hard to come by 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.579 in English. So yeah, I guess that's why they 00:00:55.579 --> 00:00:57.840 went with it. Anyhow, we are not recording these 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:01.179 back to back nor even within a week of the first 00:01:01.179 --> 00:01:03.679 one. So I am going to fess up that I do not remember 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.340 much. But I do remember Stanley Tiger. And I 00:01:07.340 --> 00:01:09.120 do remember these guys getting very misleading. 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.670 So I think we can go from there. Yeah last week 00:01:12.670 --> 00:01:15.049 we went over the first there's three of them 00:01:15.049 --> 00:01:18.049 we went over the first and second are you safe 00:01:18.049 --> 00:01:22.170 three do you mean three outside of stanley tiger. 00:01:22.930 --> 00:01:26.489 Okay so if you recall back to the last one that 00:01:26.489 --> 00:01:30.689 you probably use the first in the series starts 00:01:30.689 --> 00:01:34.920 with extraordinary stanley tiger right. Right, 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.379 I actually do remember that because a lot of 00:01:37.379 --> 00:01:40.280 it is like all this stuff's coming out while 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.439 the movie is kind of being filmed and they're 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.359 like, eh, we can't throw away good money. Yeah, 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.540 why the hell do you keep going with it when it 00:01:48.540 --> 00:01:51.260 comes out right at the end that he's a pedophile 00:01:51.260 --> 00:01:54.540 and he has been arrested and been found guilty? 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.840 Why do you keep going with the series? Anyhow... 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:01.680 Today I'm starting off with the third in the 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.480 series, which is called Extraordinary The Revelations. 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:09.860 And this one gets a little bit higher ratings 00:02:09.860 --> 00:02:14.419 on IMBD with a whopping 5 .4 out of 10 rating 00:02:14.419 --> 00:02:16.759 and an all -star cast. That's over half. That 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.460 is above average technically. Yeah, yeah. But 00:02:19.460 --> 00:02:21.560 that's not how society works, unfortunately. 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.400 I'm about to shock you with who is in this movie. 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.960 Jimmy Church narrates it. Oh, no way. He's got 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.300 a good voice. He does have a good voice. I don't 00:02:32.300 --> 00:02:34.759 know how they got him. I don't. It doesn't make 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:37.039 sense to me. I don't think Jimmy Church is in 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.240 high demand, Chelsea. I know. But still, like, 00:02:40.580 --> 00:02:42.479 I think we could get Jimmy Church. If you're 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:45.780 lending your name to something, wouldn't you 00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:48.840 do a little bit of research knowing like it's 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.699 going to come up probably pretty quickly that 00:02:51.699 --> 00:02:55.539 they put out a movie about a pedophile? Though 00:02:55.539 --> 00:02:59.009 Stanley Tiger was involved. I believe he was 00:02:59.009 --> 00:03:01.590 on Coast as well. We would have to go all the 00:03:01.590 --> 00:03:03.849 way back to the Stanley Tiger episode, not the 00:03:03.849 --> 00:03:06.949 last episode, to remember that. And I can't recall. 00:03:07.069 --> 00:03:09.289 I think he was on Coast to Coast to him, though. 00:03:09.610 --> 00:03:13.030 Followed by Richard Doling, David Jacobs, L .A. 00:03:13.250 --> 00:03:15.750 Marzulli, George Norrie makes an appearance, 00:03:15.949 --> 00:03:19.930 Nick Pope, Michael Salla, all in this documentary, 00:03:20.069 --> 00:03:23.240 at least in one form or another. And so I'm just 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.479 going to read you the storyline of this one. 00:03:25.780 --> 00:03:29.219 So Extraordinary the Revelations explores the 00:03:29.219 --> 00:03:33.060 historical significance of ET presence, as well 00:03:33.060 --> 00:03:37.419 as three specific paradigms. Biblical ascension 00:03:37.419 --> 00:03:40.680 and colonization, that attempt to define the 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.360 alien agenda. While individuals in each of these 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.560 thought camps believe ET interaction is occurring, 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.960 their endgame assessments are vastly different. 00:03:51.259 --> 00:03:54.479 Retired military whistleblowers directly involved 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.120 in government sanctioned programs related to 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.159 ET engagement and communication also tell their 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.340 life changing stories. Answering once and for 00:04:03.340 --> 00:04:06.379 all, do governments know about the existence 00:04:06.379 --> 00:04:10.500 of ET's? Have they made contact with them? Are 00:04:10.500 --> 00:04:14.199 they engaged in above black programs and have 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.680 they been hiding these facts from the general 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.779 public for decades? That's the official storyline 00:04:20.779 --> 00:04:26.379 of this and I gotta tell you Watching this movie 00:04:26.379 --> 00:04:30.139 was all of them were born all of them boring 00:04:30.139 --> 00:04:33.680 really dry to get through and it reminded me 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.240 exactly of a really long ancient aliens episode 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.459 to the teeth really because i could at least 00:04:39.459 --> 00:04:42.439 find a good amount of ancient alien episodes 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.519 entertaining yeah you can you can they're putting 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.240 this a different spin on the same information 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:52.740 it feels like every single one but it has to 00:04:52.740 --> 00:04:55.620 be entertaining for it to go on for so many seasons 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.860 And I heard that, you know, David Wilcock was 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:07.139 paid $500 an episode. Oh, man, I bet that comes 00:05:07.139 --> 00:05:12.439 from a credible source, too. You know it. I mean, 00:05:12.860 --> 00:05:15.019 even look at who's involved in this. It's set 00:05:15.019 --> 00:05:18.319 up exactly like an ancient aliens episode. And 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:21.600 this is purely my feedback from watching it. 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:25.800 I just. Chelsea, I just want to, could we call 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:31.540 it Teemu Ancient Aliens? Yes. We could. We could. 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.339 I don't know if I quite do Teemu because you 00:05:35.339 --> 00:05:36.660 got all the players here. No, because they still 00:05:36.660 --> 00:05:38.420 got this. Yeah, they still got the same players. 00:05:38.740 --> 00:05:41.339 That's fair. Yep. And you know what? It'd be 00:05:41.339 --> 00:05:45.139 like if they got Nick Pape. Yeah, exactly. Or 00:05:45.139 --> 00:05:49.480 it's like. all these people you've never heard 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.439 of before but they're there like they've been 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.139 there the whole time that that's how I like Stanley 00:05:55.139 --> 00:06:00.399 tiger and friends yeah yeah now basically the 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.279 idea for this series of the creators of this 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.939 trilogy was the lame man's version of UFOs If 00:06:09.939 --> 00:06:13.600 you know nothing going into UFOs, which I don't 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.300 even know why a series like this would appeal 00:06:16.300 --> 00:06:18.779 to you in the first place, I feel like I would 00:06:18.779 --> 00:06:20.920 watch the first Stanley Tiger one and be like, 00:06:20.980 --> 00:06:24.800 what the fuck did I actually just watch? And 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:30.120 this man was a pedophile, you say? I would be 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.699 very curious what their target audience is. Do 00:06:32.699 --> 00:06:34.339 they think they're getting repeat people or do 00:06:34.339 --> 00:06:35.779 they think they're just getting people based 00:06:35.779 --> 00:06:38.540 on what name recognition? Which I think at the 00:06:38.540 --> 00:06:40.339 end of the day is what they're going for on this 00:06:40.339 --> 00:06:44.399 one. I don't think it is because this is exactly 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.420 what they're going with. This is, you know, nothing 00:06:47.420 --> 00:06:50.259 going into UFOs about it. You don't want anything 00:06:50.259 --> 00:06:54.439 overwhelming. You just want, you know, the absolute 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:56.779 essential information. If you were to say, tell 00:06:56.779 --> 00:06:59.639 me about aliens, this is this is what you would 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:05.470 be looking for. So by the end of the third installment 00:07:05.470 --> 00:07:08.069 of this, you will have a better understanding 00:07:08.069 --> 00:07:12.569 of the bigger picture and their goal was to reach 00:07:12.569 --> 00:07:16.050 the widest audience possible, know over the top 00:07:16.050 --> 00:07:18.769 stories so that they could connect with people. 00:07:19.339 --> 00:07:22.519 Which I find interesting that in the seeding, 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.959 a majority of the focus was on alien hybrid babies. 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.379 Oh, yes. Didn't seem like the most beginner friendly, 00:07:29.379 --> 00:07:32.319 but hey, who am I to judge? I guess. I mean, 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.740 they're the laymen. No, that's fair. But yeah, 00:07:36.740 --> 00:07:38.680 it makes more sense to go with something that's 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.199 just about ordinary, extraordinary, because people 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.420 know ordinary. Oh, they did not go much above 00:07:45.420 --> 00:07:47.860 ordinary. It sounds like you really just hated 00:07:47.860 --> 00:07:51.509 them. But. Actually, I'm very specifically here 00:07:51.509 --> 00:07:54.970 to judge this and it doesn't just connect for 00:07:54.970 --> 00:07:58.069 me under the guise of Abduction 101 because they're 00:07:58.069 --> 00:08:01.449 using terms that you would have to have a knowledge 00:08:01.449 --> 00:08:04.750 of going in. For instance, a woman recalling 00:08:04.750 --> 00:08:07.829 an abduction and she is conveying her experience 00:08:07.829 --> 00:08:11.910 that was uncovered under regression with no other 00:08:11.910 --> 00:08:16.399 information on what regression is. So I Am I 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.139 often thinking that their target audience wouldn't 00:08:19.139 --> 00:08:22.139 know what the regression portion of that is? 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.959 Or are they just kind of operating on the understanding? 00:08:25.259 --> 00:08:28.769 I do think. that their target audience does know 00:08:28.769 --> 00:08:30.589 what a regression was because they're targeting 00:08:30.589 --> 00:08:32.870 people who would know who the celebrities are 00:08:32.870 --> 00:08:36.169 in this movie. So they should at least know what 00:08:36.169 --> 00:08:39.190 regression is. And it does kind of take a turn 00:08:39.190 --> 00:08:43.450 for the second two, but I just it feels really 00:08:43.450 --> 00:08:47.009 off to be targeting people who are looking for 00:08:47.009 --> 00:08:50.350 information to get them started. It doesn't feel 00:08:50.350 --> 00:08:51.990 like a right fit to me. I mean, that's fair. 00:08:52.710 --> 00:08:53.950 Ancient Aliens is more of a fit. Yeah, that makes 00:08:53.950 --> 00:08:55.570 sense. And especially with going with like such 00:08:55.570 --> 00:08:58.970 a broad title, like extraordinary. You think 00:08:58.970 --> 00:09:01.029 you'd want to go with a lot more simple terms? 00:09:01.409 --> 00:09:04.450 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, even when we were 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:07.710 talking about the seating, it's very female oriented. 00:09:07.970 --> 00:09:11.009 It's a lot of miscarriages. It's a lot of hybrid 00:09:11.009 --> 00:09:13.529 babies, people being pregnant and then not being 00:09:13.529 --> 00:09:16.149 pregnant. I just it doesn't seem like something 00:09:16.149 --> 00:09:18.190 that would draw you in if you're looking for 00:09:18.190 --> 00:09:22.490 people who and less people are specifically looking 00:09:22.490 --> 00:09:25.860 for something on that. It's very niche. It's 00:09:25.860 --> 00:09:29.580 not an overall overview of something. Yeah. And 00:09:29.580 --> 00:09:31.840 if you're putting if you're putting George Norrie 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.519 in a movie, like you're not going for people 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.360 who know stuff about the community. You're looking 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.779 at people who have merely dipped their toe into 00:09:39.779 --> 00:09:42.799 the water that is fringe. Oh, and will George 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.659 Norrie not elaborate or give you any more information? 00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:49.659 No, no, he doesn't know what regression is. Let's 00:09:49.659 --> 00:09:55.600 face it. Yeah. And. Speaking of boring, who made 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.759 these documentaries, you ask? Well, Taylor, two 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:05.159 of the most boring people on the planet. Unfortunately, 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.720 I was really hoping for something else because 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.940 we focus on assholes so much in this podcast 00:10:10.940 --> 00:10:15.279 and these people boring, boring as I don't even 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:19.000 know. Let's just talk about first one. John Semple. 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.840 I'm who doesn't love a good coast -to -coast 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.220 AM biography So I'm just gonna start with that 00:10:24.220 --> 00:10:27.259 and it goes a little something like this researcher 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:30.460 and documentary filmmaker John simple is one 00:10:30.460 --> 00:10:32.500 of the men behind the films of extraordinary 00:10:32.500 --> 00:10:34.899 the seating and Extraordinary the Stan Roman 00:10:34.899 --> 00:10:37.700 X story surprised they included that one from 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:40.820 his website John simple is one of the three This 00:10:40.820 --> 00:10:43.240 is not coast -to -coast AM anymore. Wait, that 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.990 was all they had on That was literally it. From 00:10:46.990 --> 00:10:50.629 his website, John Semple is one of three co -founders 00:10:50.629 --> 00:10:53.789 of J3Films along with partners Jack Roth and 00:10:53.789 --> 00:10:58.230 Jamie Sernoff. J3Films creates engaging, entertaining, 00:10:58.470 --> 00:11:00.950 and educational documentaries that challenge 00:11:00.950 --> 00:11:04.330 conventional wisdom. With deep ties to communities 00:11:04.330 --> 00:11:06.750 surrounding the unexplained, they have access 00:11:06.750 --> 00:11:09.990 to researchers, investigative journalists, subject 00:11:09.990 --> 00:11:13.490 matter experts, and eyewitnesses in the paranormal 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:16.919 and ufology fields. John is also a producer, 00:11:17.059 --> 00:11:20.299 director, and writer for J3Films projects, having 00:11:20.299 --> 00:11:22.440 done all three of the following award -winning 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.519 films. Not that award -winning, by the way, if 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.740 you remember back to the first episode. Extraordinary 00:11:28.740 --> 00:11:32.480 The Stan Romanukh Story 2013 -2017 I don't know 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.940 what that second date is. Extraordinary The Seeding 00:11:35.940 --> 00:11:39.600 2019 and Extraordinary The Revelations 2021. 00:11:40.059 --> 00:11:44.139 They are all available worldwide on avod platforms. 00:11:44.299 --> 00:11:46.620 I don't know what that means. John Semple and 00:11:46.620 --> 00:11:49.600 Jack Roth are the driving creative force between 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.120 J3 Films, and the duo is responsible for cultivating 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:56.220 the company's development opportunities for documentaries 00:11:56.220 --> 00:12:00.519 and feature scripts. I don't know, he has a baseball 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:05.460 podcast? He is or was or whatever a senior editor 00:12:05.460 --> 00:12:09.889 for TheFenceBaseball .com? He also seems to be 00:12:09.889 --> 00:12:13.309 associated somehow with the Hollywood Disclosure 00:12:13.309 --> 00:12:16.269 Alliance, which seems to be founded by Stephen 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:18.149 Bassett. I forgot about that group. They've come 00:12:18.149 --> 00:12:20.870 up before. What is it? I can't remember, but 00:12:20.870 --> 00:12:23.230 it has come up before. Look at the website. Go 00:12:23.230 --> 00:12:25.070 take a look at the website. I've seen the website. 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:27.230 It was really weird, but I can't remember it. 00:12:27.250 --> 00:12:29.629 I can't tell you what the fuck it is. Hollywood 00:12:29.629 --> 00:12:32.509 it has no information you yeah, we've definitely 00:12:32.509 --> 00:12:35.009 been there before but I can't remember why yeah 00:12:35.009 --> 00:12:37.929 No information on that website though. I got 00:12:37.929 --> 00:12:41.090 this guy's full bio from there for some reason 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.840 it's pretty much the only place he had a full 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:47.139 bio it was super weird i don't know what it is 00:12:47.139 --> 00:12:49.559 we looked at somebody that brought us here we've 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.600 definitely been here before i can't remember 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.600 looking but it there's it's no information there's 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:56.980 no information about what the hell it is it's 00:12:56.980 --> 00:12:59.240 super well they lost robert anderson and sergio 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:02.200 love Poor guys. Yeah. I mean, that's the only 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.159 thing you can safer from that freaking website. 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:07.820 It's weird. I don't know. I don't know. You don't 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:10.480 think it was AI created, do you? No, it didn't 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.899 have an AI feel to it. It just has like a super 00:13:13.899 --> 00:13:16.299 non direction. I wish I could remember where 00:13:16.299 --> 00:13:18.379 that came up. We've definitely seen it before, 00:13:18.500 --> 00:13:20.580 though. I don't remember looking at it before. 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:25.379 That's funny. So, yeah, this guy, just to really 00:13:25.379 --> 00:13:32.000 underline this, he has No paranormal extraterrestrial 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.799 anything. This guy definitely put together like 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.500 a two hour PowerPoint presentation, which had 00:13:38.500 --> 00:13:42.919 an ROI near the end that said we can get 1 .8 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:46.539 % return on investment from this industry after 00:13:46.539 --> 00:13:48.659 like talking about it for three hours. Yeah, 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.539 that is what it seems to be in the end. Disappointing 00:13:52.539 --> 00:13:56.659 to say the least. Jack Roth is no better, but 00:13:56.659 --> 00:13:58.980 it has a little bit more of a biography on Coast 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:02.320 to Coast. Researcher and documentary filmmaker 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.659 Jack Roth is one of the men behind the film's 00:14:05.659 --> 00:14:08.080 extraordinary The Seating and extraordinary The 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.840 Stan Romanek Story. and that's what's on coast 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.519 to coast am again that's literally how boring 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.759 these guys are because there's literally nothing 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.200 on coast to coast am about them and they went 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:21.399 on i think once or twice to just talk about the 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.519 movies oh yeah and they'll write anything you 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.139 want on the coast to coast am biography like 00:14:26.139 --> 00:14:30.320 why not make it more than So from his own website, 00:14:30.740 --> 00:14:33.940 Jack Roth, he writes us, Jack Roth is a journalist, 00:14:34.139 --> 00:14:36.639 documentary film producer and non -fiction book 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.679 author. He has produced the award -winning documentary 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.100 films, Extraordinary, The Stan Romanukh Story, 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:44.639 Extraordinary, The Seeding and Extraordinary, 00:14:44.700 --> 00:14:47.539 The Revelations. In addition to killing Kennedy, 00:14:48.179 --> 00:14:51.379 he is also the author of Ghost Soldiers of Gettysburg 00:14:51.379 --> 00:14:54.919 and Unknown Down, books that adeptly explore 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.990 and explain phenomena. Jack's work is driven 00:14:57.990 --> 00:15:00.669 by his strong desire to seek the truth and share 00:15:00.669 --> 00:15:03.889 it with others, as this, he believes, will ultimately 00:15:03.889 --> 00:15:06.549 lead to greater enlightenment and personal freedom 00:15:06.549 --> 00:15:09.590 for all of humanity. He is a graduate of Boston 00:15:09.590 --> 00:15:14.049 University, BS Business Administration, University 00:15:14.049 --> 00:15:17.990 of Miami Film Institute Certification, and University 00:15:17.990 --> 00:15:21.879 of Central Florida BA Journalism. And at the 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.419 end of the biography, I have to say that given 00:15:24.419 --> 00:15:27.399 his background of what he has written books about, 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.639 he literally has not appeared on Coast to Coast 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:34.279 AM for anything other than the extraordinary 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:38.620 plug once. Is that not weird? Because he also 00:15:38.620 --> 00:15:41.460 wrote a book on ghost soldiers of Gettysburg 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:44.620 and killing Kennedy. So yeah, that's those are 00:15:44.620 --> 00:15:47.600 things that they would eat up. For sure. Exactly. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.179 So weird, right? Like I said, they are surprisingly 00:15:52.179 --> 00:15:55.679 boring people. And I noticed that they kept saying 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:59.240 things like they have quote, deep ties to communities 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.240 surrounding the unexplained and quote, with never 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.419 any more elaboration than that. That's all they 00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:07.580 say. They say it in their biographies. I listened 00:16:07.580 --> 00:16:10.720 to a podcast episode with them. Strongly do not 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.740 recommend that because their talking is not any 00:16:13.740 --> 00:16:16.299 more interesting. That's all they would say, 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.779 though, is that they had deep ties to communities 00:16:18.779 --> 00:16:20.919 surrounding the unexplained. Oh, that's great. 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.600 Yeah. Yeah. Which is what they kind of say. That's 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.399 what got them into it. And they had the resources 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:31.059 and the connections to be able to speak with 00:16:31.059 --> 00:16:34.139 these people who had experiences, but they never 00:16:34.139 --> 00:16:37.259 elaborated on it, which I thought was weird as 00:16:37.259 --> 00:16:40.220 well. That's usually where it goes. Yeah. I searched 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:42.460 and searched and, you know, when researching 00:16:42.860 --> 00:16:46.200 Usually for someone very involved in a community 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.480 such as this you can find what they're involved 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.720 with and who they've talked at least a sufficient 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.399 amount Yeah, and these guys I can't even tell 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:58.080 you how much searching I had to do To find even 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:02.519 just this stuff that I told you on them The biographies 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.400 on the website are on their own website with 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.930 all their awards and everything highly edited. 00:17:09.210 --> 00:17:11.769 You can tell they're only giving you what they 00:17:11.769 --> 00:17:13.950 want, right? And you never know when they're 00:17:13.950 --> 00:17:16.369 involved with someone with Stanley Roman. Like 00:17:16.369 --> 00:17:19.589 they might have to be very wary of what they're 00:17:19.589 --> 00:17:21.750 putting out because there's probably a lot to 00:17:21.750 --> 00:17:24.750 uncover. I listened to a podcast with them on 00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:27.529 in which the host kept breathing. I forgot about 00:17:27.529 --> 00:17:30.210 this. The host kept breathing incredibly heavy 00:17:30.210 --> 00:17:33.230 into the mic while they talk. And it was so annoying, 00:17:33.509 --> 00:17:37.789 but Turns out they came together and literally 00:17:37.789 --> 00:17:40.369 they just wanted to make a documentary with a 00:17:40.369 --> 00:17:43.430 compelling story and that's literally the background. 00:17:43.490 --> 00:17:46.329 They're like, hey I want to make a documentary 00:17:46.329 --> 00:17:50.089 because I have a BA in journalism. And the other 00:17:50.089 --> 00:17:53.269 guy was like, yeah, me too. I want to make a 00:17:53.269 --> 00:17:56.230 documentary. What should we do it on? And I guess 00:17:56.230 --> 00:17:59.450 it's exactly like what you said. Like if we do 00:17:59.450 --> 00:18:02.670 it on this, then the ROI is the highest. Yeah. 00:18:02.829 --> 00:18:04.990 With the least amount of effort. Yeah, honestly. 00:18:05.289 --> 00:18:07.849 the fact that i couldn't find much on them is 00:18:07.849 --> 00:18:10.150 enough to make me skeptical because they don't 00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:12.829 have a huge footprint outside of these documentaries 00:18:12.829 --> 00:18:16.329 other than what was the baseball website oh yeah 00:18:16.329 --> 00:18:20.630 the fence baseball these documentaries starting 00:18:20.630 --> 00:18:23.940 with stanley roman are extraordinarily bad and 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:27.140 are associated with a pedophile. And I can't 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:30.579 tie that with why they get so many people on 00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:33.480 board for them for the second two movies in the 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.240 series. I know I said this in the first one, 00:18:36.259 --> 00:18:40.460 but it just doesn't make sense to me. So they 00:18:40.460 --> 00:18:43.000 have connections somewhere. Here's the thing, 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:45.289 Chelsea. I think it makes a lot of sense since 00:18:45.289 --> 00:18:47.930 we're talking about ROI, return on investment. 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:51.009 That fully explains the first one, why they would 00:18:51.009 --> 00:18:53.130 not get rid of the Stanley Tiger. They need to 00:18:53.130 --> 00:18:55.450 show that they could return on what they paid. 00:18:55.730 --> 00:18:57.309 My guess is that they didn't have to pay Stanley 00:18:57.309 --> 00:19:00.269 a lot, so any release at least paid for itself. 00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:04.069 And then from there, they paid for quality in 00:19:04.069 --> 00:19:06.849 this one. They paid for people that they knew 00:19:06.849 --> 00:19:09.460 what to expect from them. So they paid a little 00:19:09.460 --> 00:19:12.220 bit more and hopefully got a better return because 00:19:12.220 --> 00:19:14.259 of that Well, obviously it would have although 00:19:14.259 --> 00:19:16.299 that doesn't that doesn't explain the middle 00:19:16.299 --> 00:19:18.259 one though. I don't get what they were doing 00:19:18.259 --> 00:19:22.039 there I know it it totally doesn't make sense 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.799 for me. I mean, I do have some thoughts on it 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.420 I'm wrapping it up. This one's a really short 00:19:27.420 --> 00:19:30.839 one It's a mystery to me. I thought I was going 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.799 to be looking at assholes for sure going into 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:38.190 this because number one They came out strong 00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:41.349 with Stanley Tiger. They came out real strong 00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:43.869 No, it turns out the asshole was just capitalism 00:19:43.869 --> 00:19:47.009 the whole time. It was it is always the asshole 00:19:47.009 --> 00:19:51.710 in the end but then they keep going with the 00:19:51.710 --> 00:19:57.210 series and To me, they're not even the documentaries 00:19:57.210 --> 00:20:00.150 don't even have the same feel as the Stanley 00:20:00.150 --> 00:20:04.779 Tiger this is a series like we need to use the 00:20:04.779 --> 00:20:09.140 same name yeah like the second two definitely 00:20:09.140 --> 00:20:12.160 i could tell they're related with stanley tiger 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.519 like the guy clearly just made up a bunch of 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:17.940 shit and then was a pedophile the whole time 00:20:17.940 --> 00:20:20.079 just reboot you don't need to use extraordinary 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:21.779 exactly it's not even that good of a name but 00:20:21.779 --> 00:20:24.859 they just went for it and then i dug into it 00:20:24.859 --> 00:20:26.940 and we were like oh there's gonna be something 00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:28.819 there because we were like holy shit there's 00:20:28.819 --> 00:20:32.480 two more movies that these guys do and they like 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:34.839 worked with a pedophile and then they just turned 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:38.539 out to be the most miraculously boring dudes 00:20:38.539 --> 00:20:41.740 that were just like yeah you want to make a documentary 00:20:41.740 --> 00:20:46.309 yeah let's just make one that was of no interest 00:20:46.309 --> 00:20:49.150 to either of us, but we got connections somehow. 00:20:49.730 --> 00:20:52.289 We're not ever gonna disclose what those weird 00:20:52.289 --> 00:20:56.309 connections are or like literally anything because 00:20:56.309 --> 00:20:58.890 we're the two most boring dudes on the face of 00:20:58.890 --> 00:21:02.839 this earth and we're just gonna go with it. And 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:05.500 here we are in a podcast talking about two boring 00:21:05.500 --> 00:21:08.819 dudes and the weird movies they made that I wouldn't 00:21:08.819 --> 00:21:11.619 say that they particularly have had any fucking 00:21:11.619 --> 00:21:14.539 impact at all. I didn't learn anything. They 00:21:14.539 --> 00:21:18.200 were boring as well. I like I won't watch them 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.619 again. I wouldn't recommend you watch them. And 00:21:21.619 --> 00:21:24.960 it's it's been a while since they've done anything 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:28.720 right. Like this came out in twenty twenty one. 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:31.690 So it's been four years. And I don't think they've 00:21:31.690 --> 00:21:35.009 been working on like their penultimate quadrilogy 00:21:35.009 --> 00:21:37.230 to finish it off. You would never know. You would 00:21:37.230 --> 00:21:39.410 never know. No, but you can't find anything they're 00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:41.769 working on either. That's the funny thing. That 00:21:41.769 --> 00:21:44.789 might be a part of why you can't find anything 00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:48.589 on them because they have no connections. So 00:21:48.589 --> 00:21:51.329 I don't know. I'm speculating at this part, but 00:21:51.329 --> 00:21:55.009 it bothers me. Why would you make these documentaries? 00:21:55.490 --> 00:21:57.509 I'm thinking they blew too much on this last 00:21:57.509 --> 00:22:00.309 movie. Which is what I bet you they did which 00:22:00.309 --> 00:22:03.109 is why they can't do anything now I didn't hear 00:22:03.109 --> 00:22:05.490 anything I listened to a couple of podcasts because 00:22:05.490 --> 00:22:08.309 I was like there has to be more to these guys 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:11.630 than what i'm hearing the podcast gave me a little 00:22:11.630 --> 00:22:14.670 bit more info because that's where I learned 00:22:14.670 --> 00:22:16.589 that you know they just got together and they 00:22:16.589 --> 00:22:19.730 were like let's just make a documentary on something 00:22:19.730 --> 00:22:22.690 like it could be anything it could be baseball 00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:27.000 it could be hybrid babies I we don't care. Let's 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.319 just see what's going to make us the most money, 00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:31.700 which is weird that this one they won with this 00:22:31.700 --> 00:22:33.920 one. They might have made more with baseball. 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.359 But yeah, I was super shocked on that because 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:39.619 I was like, wow, these are, you know, usually 00:22:39.619 --> 00:22:41.759 the people we talk about in the UFO community, 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.299 they have a little bit more present. They really 00:22:44.299 --> 00:22:47.279 do. But I'm looking like they're they're socials. 00:22:47.289 --> 00:22:49.369 They have a YouTube page, hasn't been posted 00:22:49.369 --> 00:22:52.230 to in five years. They have an Instagram page. 00:22:52.390 --> 00:22:54.890 Nothing's been posted to it. You know, I can't 00:22:54.890 --> 00:22:57.769 tell on this one for sure. But you're not looking 00:22:57.769 --> 00:23:01.650 at our Instagram. They have a J3 Films Facebook 00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:05.299 page that nothing's been posted since 2023. so 00:23:05.299 --> 00:23:07.319 yeah and then you look at their website it's 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.339 super professional looking but it's misleading 00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:13.420 as all fuck yeah because it looks like they've 00:23:13.420 --> 00:23:17.099 won many many many awards for these movies and 00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:19.920 they didn't win shit and not a one the last time 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.680 they posted their blog is 2021 super weird they 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.259 might do something again i wouldn't doubt if 00:23:27.259 --> 00:23:29.440 they do i don't know where they go from here 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.220 to be honest with you unless they find another 00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:34.720 partnership with a pedophile You can't see what 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:38.460 any of them are up to, either. Yeah, why would 00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:40.599 you? They don't do anything, I don't think. You 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:41.519 would think as production people, you would want 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.119 to have your name out there, knowing that you're 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.980 doing things. Maybe they're NPCs? Oh, maybe. 00:23:47.500 --> 00:23:49.920 I guess with that. That has to be the answer, 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:52.380 right? With that, I have been Taylor, here with 00:23:52.380 --> 00:23:53.980 Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank 00:23:53.980 --> 00:23:55.460 you all for listening, and we'll see you next 00:23:55.460 --> 00:24:01.609 week. Bye. Thank you for listening to Journey 00:24:01.609 --> 00:24:03.950 to the Fringe. If you have liked what you have 00:24:03.950 --> 00:24:07.930 listened to, please like, share, subscribe, or 00:24:07.930 --> 00:24:10.680 follow, depending on what. venue you are listening 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.559 to us through. 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