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it, Taylor and Chelsea. You're here today following
up on the, I think it's J4 productions, Chelsea,
or is it J3 productions? Three, you were so close.
Okay, okay. Just minus one. I felt J4 sounded
better, which is why I went with that. I thought
surely it can't be J3, that just sounds wrong.
You got to go with the one that sounds more right
before sounds better, right? It does actually
it sounds more official. But I guess you got
to have an extra J and J's are hard to come by
in English. So yeah, I guess that's why they
went with it. Anyhow, we are not recording these
back to back nor even within a week of the first
one. So I am going to fess up that I do not remember
much. But I do remember Stanley Tiger. And I
do remember these guys getting very misleading.
So I think we can go from there. Yeah last week
we went over the first there's three of them
we went over the first and second are you safe
three do you mean three outside of stanley tiger.
Okay so if you recall back to the last one that
you probably use the first in the series starts
with extraordinary stanley tiger right. Right,
I actually do remember that because a lot of
it is like all this stuff's coming out while
the movie is kind of being filmed and they're
like, eh, we can't throw away good money. Yeah,
why the hell do you keep going with it when it
comes out right at the end that he's a pedophile
and he has been arrested and been found guilty?
Why do you keep going with the series? Anyhow...
Today I'm starting off with the third in the
series, which is called Extraordinary The Revelations.
And this one gets a little bit higher ratings
on IMBD with a whopping 5 .4 out of 10 rating
and an all -star cast. That's over half. That
is above average technically. Yeah, yeah. But
that's not how society works, unfortunately.
I'm about to shock you with who is in this movie.
Jimmy Church narrates it. Oh, no way. He's got
a good voice. He does have a good voice. I don't
know how they got him. I don't. It doesn't make
sense to me. I don't think Jimmy Church is in
high demand, Chelsea. I know. But still, like,
I think we could get Jimmy Church. If you're
lending your name to something, wouldn't you
do a little bit of research knowing like it's
going to come up probably pretty quickly that
they put out a movie about a pedophile? Though
Stanley Tiger was involved. I believe he was
on Coast as well. We would have to go all the
way back to the Stanley Tiger episode, not the
last episode, to remember that. And I can't recall.
I think he was on Coast to Coast to him, though.
Followed by Richard Doling, David Jacobs, L .A.
Marzulli, George Norrie makes an appearance,
Nick Pope, Michael Salla, all in this documentary,
at least in one form or another. And so I'm just
going to read you the storyline of this one.
So Extraordinary the Revelations explores the
historical significance of ET presence, as well
as three specific paradigms. Biblical ascension
and colonization, that attempt to define the
alien agenda. While individuals in each of these
thought camps believe ET interaction is occurring,
their endgame assessments are vastly different.
Retired military whistleblowers directly involved
in government sanctioned programs related to
ET engagement and communication also tell their
life changing stories. Answering once and for
all, do governments know about the existence
of ET's? Have they made contact with them? Are
they engaged in above black programs and have
they been hiding these facts from the general
public for decades? That's the official storyline
of this and I gotta tell you Watching this movie
was all of them were born all of them boring
really dry to get through and it reminded me
exactly of a really long ancient aliens episode
to the teeth really because i could at least
find a good amount of ancient alien episodes
entertaining yeah you can you can they're putting
this a different spin on the same information
it feels like every single one but it has to
be entertaining for it to go on for so many seasons
And I heard that, you know, David Wilcock was
paid $500 an episode. Oh, man, I bet that comes
from a credible source, too. You know it. I mean,
even look at who's involved in this. It's set
up exactly like an ancient aliens episode. And
this is purely my feedback from watching it.
I just. Chelsea, I just want to, could we call
it Teemu Ancient Aliens? Yes. We could. We could.
I don't know if I quite do Teemu because you
got all the players here. No, because they still
got this. Yeah, they still got the same players.
That's fair. Yep. And you know what? It'd be
like if they got Nick Pape. Yeah, exactly. Or
it's like. all these people you've never heard
of before but they're there like they've been
there the whole time that that's how I like Stanley
tiger and friends yeah yeah now basically the
idea for this series of the creators of this
trilogy was the lame man's version of UFOs If
you know nothing going into UFOs, which I don't
even know why a series like this would appeal
to you in the first place, I feel like I would
watch the first Stanley Tiger one and be like,
what the fuck did I actually just watch? And
this man was a pedophile, you say? I would be
very curious what their target audience is. Do
they think they're getting repeat people or do
they think they're just getting people based
on what name recognition? Which I think at the
end of the day is what they're going for on this
one. I don't think it is because this is exactly
what they're going with. This is, you know, nothing
going into UFOs about it. You don't want anything
overwhelming. You just want, you know, the absolute
essential information. If you were to say, tell
me about aliens, this is this is what you would
be looking for. So by the end of the third installment
of this, you will have a better understanding
of the bigger picture and their goal was to reach
the widest audience possible, know over the top
stories so that they could connect with people.
Which I find interesting that in the seeding,
a majority of the focus was on alien hybrid babies.
Oh, yes. Didn't seem like the most beginner friendly,
but hey, who am I to judge? I guess. I mean,
they're the laymen. No, that's fair. But yeah,
it makes more sense to go with something that's
just about ordinary, extraordinary, because people
know ordinary. Oh, they did not go much above
ordinary. It sounds like you really just hated
them. But. Actually, I'm very specifically here
to judge this and it doesn't just connect for
me under the guise of Abduction 101 because they're
using terms that you would have to have a knowledge
of going in. For instance, a woman recalling
an abduction and she is conveying her experience
that was uncovered under regression with no other
information on what regression is. So I Am I
often thinking that their target audience wouldn't
know what the regression portion of that is?
Or are they just kind of operating on the understanding?
I do think. that their target audience does know
what a regression was because they're targeting
people who would know who the celebrities are
in this movie. So they should at least know what
regression is. And it does kind of take a turn
for the second two, but I just it feels really
off to be targeting people who are looking for
information to get them started. It doesn't feel
like a right fit to me. I mean, that's fair.
Ancient Aliens is more of a fit. Yeah, that makes
sense. And especially with going with like such
a broad title, like extraordinary. You think
you'd want to go with a lot more simple terms?
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, even when we were
talking about the seating, it's very female oriented.
It's a lot of miscarriages. It's a lot of hybrid
babies, people being pregnant and then not being
pregnant. I just it doesn't seem like something
that would draw you in if you're looking for
people who and less people are specifically looking
for something on that. It's very niche. It's
not an overall overview of something. Yeah. And
if you're putting if you're putting George Norrie
in a movie, like you're not going for people
who know stuff about the community. You're looking
at people who have merely dipped their toe into
the water that is fringe. Oh, and will George
Norrie not elaborate or give you any more information?
No, no, he doesn't know what regression is. Let's
face it. Yeah. And. Speaking of boring, who made
these documentaries, you ask? Well, Taylor, two
of the most boring people on the planet. Unfortunately,
I was really hoping for something else because
we focus on assholes so much in this podcast
and these people boring, boring as I don't even
know. Let's just talk about first one. John Semple.
I'm who doesn't love a good coast -to -coast
AM biography So I'm just gonna start with that
and it goes a little something like this researcher
and documentary filmmaker John simple is one
of the men behind the films of extraordinary
the seating and Extraordinary the Stan Roman
X story surprised they included that one from
his website John simple is one of the three This
is not coast -to -coast AM anymore. Wait, that
was all they had on That was literally it. From
his website, John Semple is one of three co -founders
of J3Films along with partners Jack Roth and
Jamie Sernoff. J3Films creates engaging, entertaining,
and educational documentaries that challenge
conventional wisdom. With deep ties to communities
surrounding the unexplained, they have access
to researchers, investigative journalists, subject
matter experts, and eyewitnesses in the paranormal
and ufology fields. John is also a producer,
director, and writer for J3Films projects, having
done all three of the following award -winning
films. Not that award -winning, by the way, if
you remember back to the first episode. Extraordinary
The Stan Romanukh Story 2013 -2017 I don't know
what that second date is. Extraordinary The Seeding
2019 and Extraordinary The Revelations 2021.
They are all available worldwide on avod platforms.
I don't know what that means. John Semple and
Jack Roth are the driving creative force between
J3 Films, and the duo is responsible for cultivating
the company's development opportunities for documentaries
and feature scripts. I don't know, he has a baseball
podcast? He is or was or whatever a senior editor
for TheFenceBaseball .com? He also seems to be
associated somehow with the Hollywood Disclosure
Alliance, which seems to be founded by Stephen
Bassett. I forgot about that group. They've come
up before. What is it? I can't remember, but
it has come up before. Look at the website. Go
take a look at the website. I've seen the website.
It was really weird, but I can't remember it.
I can't tell you what the fuck it is. Hollywood
it has no information you yeah, we've definitely
been there before but I can't remember why yeah
No information on that website though. I got
this guy's full bio from there for some reason
it's pretty much the only place he had a full
bio it was super weird i don't know what it is
we looked at somebody that brought us here we've
definitely been here before i can't remember
looking but it there's it's no information there's
no information about what the hell it is it's
super well they lost robert anderson and sergio
love Poor guys. Yeah. I mean, that's the only
thing you can safer from that freaking website.
It's weird. I don't know. I don't know. You don't
think it was AI created, do you? No, it didn't
have an AI feel to it. It just has like a super
non direction. I wish I could remember where
that came up. We've definitely seen it before,
though. I don't remember looking at it before.
That's funny. So, yeah, this guy, just to really
underline this, he has No paranormal extraterrestrial
anything. This guy definitely put together like
a two hour PowerPoint presentation, which had
an ROI near the end that said we can get 1 .8
% return on investment from this industry after
like talking about it for three hours. Yeah,
that is what it seems to be in the end. Disappointing
to say the least. Jack Roth is no better, but
it has a little bit more of a biography on Coast
to Coast. Researcher and documentary filmmaker
Jack Roth is one of the men behind the film's
extraordinary The Seating and extraordinary The
Stan Romanek Story. and that's what's on coast
to coast am again that's literally how boring
these guys are because there's literally nothing
on coast to coast am about them and they went
on i think once or twice to just talk about the
movies oh yeah and they'll write anything you
want on the coast to coast am biography like
why not make it more than So from his own website,
Jack Roth, he writes us, Jack Roth is a journalist,
documentary film producer and non -fiction book
author. He has produced the award -winning documentary
films, Extraordinary, The Stan Romanukh Story,
Extraordinary, The Seeding and Extraordinary,
The Revelations. In addition to killing Kennedy,
he is also the author of Ghost Soldiers of Gettysburg
and Unknown Down, books that adeptly explore
and explain phenomena. Jack's work is driven
by his strong desire to seek the truth and share
it with others, as this, he believes, will ultimately
lead to greater enlightenment and personal freedom
for all of humanity. He is a graduate of Boston
University, BS Business Administration, University
of Miami Film Institute Certification, and University
of Central Florida BA Journalism. And at the
end of the biography, I have to say that given
his background of what he has written books about,
he literally has not appeared on Coast to Coast
AM for anything other than the extraordinary
plug once. Is that not weird? Because he also
wrote a book on ghost soldiers of Gettysburg
and killing Kennedy. So yeah, that's those are
things that they would eat up. For sure. Exactly.
So weird, right? Like I said, they are surprisingly
boring people. And I noticed that they kept saying
things like they have quote, deep ties to communities
surrounding the unexplained and quote, with never
any more elaboration than that. That's all they
say. They say it in their biographies. I listened
to a podcast episode with them. Strongly do not
recommend that because their talking is not any
more interesting. That's all they would say,
though, is that they had deep ties to communities
surrounding the unexplained. Oh, that's great.
Yeah. Yeah. Which is what they kind of say. That's
what got them into it. And they had the resources
and the connections to be able to speak with
these people who had experiences, but they never
elaborated on it, which I thought was weird as
well. That's usually where it goes. Yeah. I searched
and searched and, you know, when researching
Usually for someone very involved in a community
such as this you can find what they're involved
with and who they've talked at least a sufficient
amount Yeah, and these guys I can't even tell
you how much searching I had to do To find even
just this stuff that I told you on them The biographies
on the website are on their own website with
all their awards and everything highly edited.
You can tell they're only giving you what they
want, right? And you never know when they're
involved with someone with Stanley Roman. Like
they might have to be very wary of what they're
putting out because there's probably a lot to
uncover. I listened to a podcast with them on
in which the host kept breathing. I forgot about
this. The host kept breathing incredibly heavy
into the mic while they talk. And it was so annoying,
but Turns out they came together and literally
they just wanted to make a documentary with a
compelling story and that's literally the background.
They're like, hey I want to make a documentary
because I have a BA in journalism. And the other
guy was like, yeah, me too. I want to make a
documentary. What should we do it on? And I guess
it's exactly like what you said. Like if we do
it on this, then the ROI is the highest. Yeah.
With the least amount of effort. Yeah, honestly.
the fact that i couldn't find much on them is
enough to make me skeptical because they don't
have a huge footprint outside of these documentaries
other than what was the baseball website oh yeah
the fence baseball these documentaries starting
with stanley roman are extraordinarily bad and
are associated with a pedophile. And I can't
tie that with why they get so many people on
board for them for the second two movies in the
series. I know I said this in the first one,
but it just doesn't make sense to me. So they
have connections somewhere. Here's the thing,
Chelsea. I think it makes a lot of sense since
we're talking about ROI, return on investment.
That fully explains the first one, why they would
not get rid of the Stanley Tiger. They need to
show that they could return on what they paid.
My guess is that they didn't have to pay Stanley
a lot, so any release at least paid for itself.
And then from there, they paid for quality in
this one. They paid for people that they knew
what to expect from them. So they paid a little
bit more and hopefully got a better return because
of that Well, obviously it would have although
that doesn't that doesn't explain the middle
one though. I don't get what they were doing
there I know it it totally doesn't make sense
for me. I mean, I do have some thoughts on it
I'm wrapping it up. This one's a really short
one It's a mystery to me. I thought I was going
to be looking at assholes for sure going into
this because number one They came out strong
with Stanley Tiger. They came out real strong
No, it turns out the asshole was just capitalism
the whole time. It was it is always the asshole
in the end but then they keep going with the
series and To me, they're not even the documentaries
don't even have the same feel as the Stanley
Tiger this is a series like we need to use the
same name yeah like the second two definitely
i could tell they're related with stanley tiger
like the guy clearly just made up a bunch of
shit and then was a pedophile the whole time
just reboot you don't need to use extraordinary
exactly it's not even that good of a name but
they just went for it and then i dug into it
and we were like oh there's gonna be something
there because we were like holy shit there's
two more movies that these guys do and they like
worked with a pedophile and then they just turned
out to be the most miraculously boring dudes
that were just like yeah you want to make a documentary
yeah let's just make one that was of no interest
to either of us, but we got connections somehow.
We're not ever gonna disclose what those weird
connections are or like literally anything because
we're the two most boring dudes on the face of
this earth and we're just gonna go with it. And
here we are in a podcast talking about two boring
dudes and the weird movies they made that I wouldn't
say that they particularly have had any fucking
impact at all. I didn't learn anything. They
were boring as well. I like I won't watch them
again. I wouldn't recommend you watch them. And
it's it's been a while since they've done anything
right. Like this came out in twenty twenty one.
So it's been four years. And I don't think they've
been working on like their penultimate quadrilogy
to finish it off. You would never know. You would
never know. No, but you can't find anything they're
working on either. That's the funny thing. That
might be a part of why you can't find anything
on them because they have no connections. So
I don't know. I'm speculating at this part, but
it bothers me. Why would you make these documentaries?
I'm thinking they blew too much on this last
movie. Which is what I bet you they did which
is why they can't do anything now I didn't hear
anything I listened to a couple of podcasts because
I was like there has to be more to these guys
than what i'm hearing the podcast gave me a little
bit more info because that's where I learned
that you know they just got together and they
were like let's just make a documentary on something
like it could be anything it could be baseball
it could be hybrid babies I we don't care. Let's
just see what's going to make us the most money,
which is weird that this one they won with this
one. They might have made more with baseball.
But yeah, I was super shocked on that because
I was like, wow, these are, you know, usually
the people we talk about in the UFO community,
they have a little bit more present. They really
do. But I'm looking like they're they're socials.
They have a YouTube page, hasn't been posted
to in five years. They have an Instagram page.
Nothing's been posted to it. You know, I can't
tell on this one for sure. But you're not looking
at our Instagram. They have a J3 Films Facebook
page that nothing's been posted since 2023. so
yeah and then you look at their website it's
super professional looking but it's misleading
as all fuck yeah because it looks like they've
won many many many awards for these movies and
they didn't win shit and not a one the last time
they posted their blog is 2021 super weird they
might do something again i wouldn't doubt if
they do i don't know where they go from here
to be honest with you unless they find another
partnership with a pedophile You can't see what
any of them are up to, either. Yeah, why would
you? They don't do anything, I don't think. You
would think as production people, you would want
to have your name out there, knowing that you're
doing things. Maybe they're NPCs? Oh, maybe.
I guess with that. That has to be the answer,
right? With that, I have been Taylor, here with
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