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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join

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us on a Journey to the Fringe. We are your podcast

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host, Taylor and Chelsea, here today doing what

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may be a two parter, we don't know for sure,

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of Chelsea's doing. So I don't even know right

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now starting this episode, so we are just gonna

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find it all out together. Today, Taylor, I'm

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so excited to tell you what we're talking about

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today. We're diving into, let's see if you know

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who this is. J3 Productions. Oh, they did Stanley

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Tiger. They did Stanley Tiger. The continuation

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of the Extraordinary series, which started with

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Stanley Tiger. Yes. So I was looking at this

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at one point, right after Stanley Tiger, and

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I just didn't feel like I had the time for it.

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So I'm very excited. So, in case you need a reminder,

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first off, I would recommend you go back to listen

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to Stanley Tiger. Classic episode. Such a good

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episode. They were the Ed Walters of their time,

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which is useless after 1999. So good. You can't

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be Ed Walters once, like, the internet comes

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about. So, I thought I could trigger your memory

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if you don't remember right now. Don't go back

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if you listened to it, but please go back if

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you didn't. And I'm going to refresh you with

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just some reviews. extraordinary extraordinary

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I don't know why I keep wanting to say it that

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way in the series Stanley tiger which doesn't

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go by Stanley tiger he goes by Stanley what's

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his last name again who fucking knows tiger I

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don't know I can't go back and tell us just tell

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us in the comments okay first one four out of

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ten it's a four like it's better than one three

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above one it's obvious no one here watched until

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the end this one actually has a spoiler on it

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it's very obvious no one here watched until the

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end because everyone who reviewed this film left

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out one very important detail of this dude's

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credibility at the very end of the film text

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pops up that says that in 2014 stan was charged

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with possessing and distributing child pornography

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as children his young as five years old. He claimed

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the FBI planted this evidence to shut him up.

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When I saw this I was disgusted and any little

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teeny bit of belief I had in some of what he

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said, in brackets there are parts where there

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were police reports and also the injuries which

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he had medical records of which shocked me if

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they were self -inflicted end quote, all went

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out the window. This dude is sick. Tons of child

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porn were found all over a bunch of USB sticks

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so it's not like it was just on the computer.

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If FBI was going to plant evidence to frame him,

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they wouldn't bother downloading child porn all

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over a bunch of random USB sticks and stash them

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all over the house when you wouldn't need to

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do all that to convict someone of child porn.

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Just it being on the computer is enough. This

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dude is so effing sick in the head. When I read

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that these poor babies were as young as five,

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I wanted to reach through my computer screen

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and strangle him. He's a fraud. Even if he is

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telling the truth of some stuff, it doesn't matter.

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He is a disgusting human being. The only reason

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I'm giving him a four is because the actual documentary

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is well made. I love the format of it. I wouldn't

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even give it a four. It was not well made. It

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was not. it is spoiler it's clearly all made

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up they give it a 403 despite the fact they clearly

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did not like that angle wow yeah i probably okay

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four out of ten again four to ten this time i'm

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a believer but i don't believe this they're both

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four out of ten yeah i was confused of what you

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kept saying that and i even told you this is

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four out of ten i really struggled with how to

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rate this So firstly, let's concentrate on this

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true story. For the first part, I was like, wow,

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this is actually quite amazing. However, the

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more it went on, the more skeptical I became.

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My skeptical brain was asking, why? Why, for

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example, would aliens move his knee brace outside

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and leave it strewn across the garden? That at

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19 minutes is where it lost all credibility for

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me Nineteen minutes is all it took. Come on,

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a peeping Tom alien? If aliens came into the

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house, no problems, abduct people from their

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beds, can send light orbs in to look around,

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then why would it need to pop up at the window

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and peek through? And the way it dropped down.

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And then the other alien visits, where he stood

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filming it in his kitchen as it unnaturally leaned

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around the corner in brackets, almost like some

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was holding a puppet and bracket. Apparently

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they can float too because the way it moved back

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around the corner. The biggest deciding factor

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on those two incidents being fakery rubbish.

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is the guy's reactions. Lordy, there is better

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acting at a second grade drama club. Aliens are

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obviously in on the selfie craze too. As reportedly

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he found a camera with extraterrestrial selfies

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on it. Eye roll. Yet somehow other photos magically

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erased. This guy is just someone who feels very

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unspecial and has created this imaginary life

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of being special. Alien visits, alien children,

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mystery phone phone calls calling him star seed.

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I'm a believer in UFOs and extraterrestrials,

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but this was just fake. I'm not saying I don't

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100 % not believe this guy was adopted or experienced

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something. I just think when you use fakery to

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pack up planes, that's when you lose credibility.

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The documentary was well done though, which is

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why I struggle with how to rate it. Is this the

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same guy? I want to give it a BS rating but feel

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it's unfair to the documentary makers as it was

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a well done and difficult topic. I would have

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liked to see some objective psychology experts

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view on this. I felt the one that they used who

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based this evaluation of how calm he was was

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amateur at best. So I just want to be fair because

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this is a J3 episode. They are not shitting on

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J3. They are for the most part actually saying

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this company seemed to do a good job. It's just

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that Stanley Tiger's a piece of shit. You know

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what? I grabbed the best two kind of well -explained

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explanations I could find, but reading those

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two kind of gave me some red flakes. And they

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both... kind of say the same things. Am I reading

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this correctly? Did you get the same thing out

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of them? They're both four out of 10. They're

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essentially saying the same thing. Yeah, they're

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both basically saying we have no belief in Stanley

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Tiger, but the documentary itself was well put

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together. But the documentary makers are very

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good. And it wasn't necessarily made to make

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you believe Stanley Tiger. It was just to document

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Stanley Tiger. Does that make sense? I grabbed

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those at random off IMDB. Take that with what

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you will. Reading those out loud right now though,

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they sound suspicious to me. They might have

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been put on there. They do, they do. So that'll

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get you caught up with Stanley Tiger just about.

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They pretty much summarized the Stanley Tiger

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episode. As much as I hate to say this, highly

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recommend watching Extraordinary. I don't know

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why I want to say it that way. Extraordinary

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Stanley Tiger. Romanek! Because Stanley Tiger

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is extraordinary and in fact below ordinary and

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that's the extra parts. Yep. Check it out. It

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is absolutely a work of art that you just need

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to see. I've caught you up on the first extra

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extraordinary god damn it Stanley Tiger. I do

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have to add that I think it's funny which doesn't

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feel like the right word that in the end. Now

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Chelsea you say funny. something easier to say

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it I feel it is something of note of note that

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there we go the very last second of that documentary

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and you'll hear the reviews mentioning it that

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I just read that Stanley tiger was literally

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arrested for child pornography yeah pedophilia

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right before this was released it says in the

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documentary that It was planted by the government

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and so and so on due to the alien abductions.

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And we have very clear evidence from a one Mr.

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Richard Doty that if the government was to in

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fact try to discredit someone, they're not going

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to plant child pornography into someone. They're

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probably going to do different methods. of discrediting

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you other than child porn. So I just wanted to

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throw that in there. We do have a whole other

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scenario where child pornography was not used.

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This man, Dianne Lee Tiger -Romack, has been

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found guilty of pedophilia. I just want to make

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that clear here. While we're on the topic of

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child porn, I was wondering if the directors

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ever actually commented on this. kind of start

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out this episode from where we left off on the

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last episode. And I pretty much came up empty

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handed. I could not find any written response

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of this at all. It wasn't until I listened to

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a podcast where they were talking about their

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next episode. What they had relayed about the

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situation was that it was pretty much right on

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the release of this documentary where it came

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out about Stanley Tiger and the child pornography.

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And the company releasing the documentary at

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that time wanted them to completely recut the

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documentary and do it on Stanley Tiger's current

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situation. with the pedophilia that would have

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been such an interesting documentary at that

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point i mean that wouldn't be the original documentary

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at all and so they were like no no that would

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be so many times you go into documentary you

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end up with a story that you have to follow and

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that would have been such an interesting documentary

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where you go in with a guy who is claiming these

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things and then it turns into really, really

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gross sex charges which you have to follow. Yeah,

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which also leads you to believe that this might

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have been a storyline to begin with. So they

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do say on this podcast that yep, they said that

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they wanted us to do it on this. And we said,

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no, they ended up releasing it independently

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and self distributed it because they were like,

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yeah, this was this period in his life where

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he was being abducted. And this is what we documented.

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And it's completely separate from this. They

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didn't want to redo it and they self distributed

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it. Then somebody reached out to them after they

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released it. They approached them about releasing

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it. And then that's when Netflix bought it up

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as well. I don't know. I find that a fucking

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weird storyline that they bought it up knowing

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that this guy was a pedophile. This is I want

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you to keep this in mind. through this whole

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episode. Because I find it weird where this goes.

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This should have been a huge black mark on the

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first documentary. Not only that, Netflix bought

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it after they did it. Which is a huge black mark

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on Netflix and I've never heard them come up

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in the bad on that. I know and It brings into

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question as well. Did they buy it with that little

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blurb at the end saying that he was arrested

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on sex offender, like pedophilia charges, and

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they were like, okay, that's your due diligence?

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Or did they make them at that point? There's

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nothing kind of addressed as far as that goes.

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I can't believe that they don't do research into

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what they're buying. I just can't. Yeah, no,

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it's definitely something to keep in the back

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of your mind through the rest of this episode

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because I still can't figure out how we get from

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here to where we end the episode. I can't make

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heads or tails of it. I find it weird and to

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me it seems like turning a blind eye. What I'm

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going to leave it with and the conclusion I'm

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coming up with to end on is the end of the documentary

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where it says that he was framed. for being a

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pedophile by the government in light of these

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abduction stories. And while they say all of

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this stuff about Netflix buying it and they're

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like, oh, this is a different point of his life,

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blah, blah, blah. He would have been doing this

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the whole time. I don't buy the cover up story

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of this. Stanley Tiger is a pedophile. He's been

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proven guilty. He's in jail for it. But this

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is clearly where the producers of this, of J3,

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stand on it. That's where I'm ending this little

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section off. And it's a pretty dark section,

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but that's their stance on it. Yeah, fair enough.

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Moving on. J3 Films has three documentaries with

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the extraordinary... I can't believe... Sorry,

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just, Chelsea, before you continue on, that they...

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saw that the first one ended with the guy he

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ended up being a pedophile. They're like, yeah,

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yeah, let's just use the same name. It's got

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cred. Let's just continue it. Let's just make

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a second and third of this series, right? I don't

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know. It makes no sense to me. And like I said,

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by the end of this, you're not going to have

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our heads or tails of it for why it started with

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Stanley Romanuk, Stanley Tiger. Like it doesn't

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make sense how it gets from there to there. The

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documentaries start with extraordinary the Stan

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Romanek story, which I just finished reminding

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you about and going on a long tangent about,

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but I didn't actually say the name of what it's

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called. It is a funny documentary to watch. These

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are clearly made up scenarios as I'm sure you

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have already found out going back and listening

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to the Stanley Tiger episode. Next documentary

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in line, is extraordinary the seeding and then

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extraordinary the revelations and J3 films describe

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themselves as an indie documentary film production

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and distribution. I found this great little blog

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post on their website that I think will take

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us at least from their point of view from Stanley

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Tiger to the next film. because I was having

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a lot of trouble figuring out how the fuck they

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got to the seeding from Stanley Tiger. This blog

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post is titled Extraordinary the Seeding Deeper

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Down the Rabbit Hole and this is written by John

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Semple who was one of the directors on October

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18th, 2018. When so many people reached out to

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us after watching our first film, Extraordinary

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The Stan Romanukh Story, we realized it was mission

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accomplished. We knew it would be a polarizing

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film simply because of the subject matter, but

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as filmmakers, our goal from the beginning was

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to present the story and evidence in an objective

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matter so viewers could make up their own minds

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as to whether or not they believed the story

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to be true. We also wanted to provide the nudge

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that would compel people to at least consider

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the possibilities. Do extraterrestrial beings

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exist? And if they do, are they abducting humans

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for some kind of experimental purpose? We didn't

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make the film for true believers or hardcore

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skeptics. It was made for those who lived somewhere

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in the middle, in the space where most of us

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reside. A place where healthy skepticism and

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childlike curiosity constantly co -mingle. We

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made it for those who aren't afraid to ask the

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questions. Who are we? Why are we here? Why don't

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we know about the universe that surrounds us?

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Most importantly, we wanted a story to tell about

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what it is to be human. Regardless of whether

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or not you believe in UFOs, and or alien contact,

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there are tens of thousands of people across

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the planet who have had UFO related encounters

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and been profoundly affected by them. By telling

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their stories, our hope is that others can be

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empathetic to their experiences. With the success

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of the first film, we were asked by The Orchard,

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our distributor partner in LA, to create more

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content. So that would be the one as an aside

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that was able to get Netflix to pick them up.

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We told them there was more to this story and

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that we would like to go deeper down the rabbit

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hole to tell it. Our second film, Extraordinary

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the Seeding, is the result of those efforts.

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The film is a logical progression from where

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the first one took us, akin to continuing to

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put pieces of a complex puzzle together. If aliens

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do exist and they are abducting humans for experimental

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reasons, why exactly do these experiments entail

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and why are they conducting them? Over the years,

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as we've researched these strange phenomena,

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we've come across many individuals who claim

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to have been abducted by extraterrestrials. In

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particular, women have come forward and shared

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what they describe as abductions followed by

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pregnancies that can't be explained and that

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end in strange miscarriages where the fetus simply

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disappears. In many of these cases, they describe

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another abduction a few years later during which

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they are shown their hybrid children on board

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alien craft. Without exception, these women are

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sincere and credible. They hesitate to come forward

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with their stories out of fear of being ridiculed

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and have to relieve the nightmare. In all cases,

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their lives are changed forever. Sometimes relationships

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are destroyed, as are careers, but many of these

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courageous individuals manage to come out on

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the other side stronger and with a keen sense

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of purpose and some even voice for those who

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are still struggling in science with the fear

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and drama. We, the Phil makers have become more

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open -minded and understanding as a result of

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making the second installment in the Extraordinary

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Series. We originally set out to find as much

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tangible evidence as we could. And while this

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is most certainly critical when it comes to validating

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the reality of these strange phenomena, our main

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goal as filmmakers is to share human experiences.

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Our true gift in sharing the story is introducing

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you to the experiencers themselves, the individuals

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who go to work every day, love their families

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and otherwise live like the rest of us, but who

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have been touched by something so extraordinary.

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as two have been profoundly touched by it forever.

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That brings us to Extraordinary The Seeding,

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which is the second in the trilogy. And might

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I just add, he did not mention at all the sex

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issues. Yeah, I told you, you cannot find that

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in writing anywhere. If you want something in

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writing, we go how they ended that last documentary,

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is that it was planted and that's their stance

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on it. That's what I'm going with. Yeah. So I'm

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going to read you. I mean, I'll I have a comment

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at the end, but I'll let you keep going through

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the story. OK, let's look at Extraordinary The

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Seating. This one gets a 5 .4 out of 10 on IMBD.

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Here's the storyline of what kind of happens

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in this. If you can already kind of picture it

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in your mind's eye what's going on and how they

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kind of brought us from Stanley Tiger to here.

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Abductions. Reproduction experiments. Memories

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of seeing children off planet. The idea of humans

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participating in an alien hybrid program sounds

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absurd until you talk to people who have experienced

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it. Thousands of women and men around the world

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have had reproductive experiments carried out

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against their will. The most harrowing, unexplained

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pregnancies that terminate without explanation.

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In many cases, the memories of what happened

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remain suppressed and fragmented, leaving experiencers

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confused, depressed, and with a profound sense

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of loss. In others, the memories are visceral

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and emotionally disturbing. Thanks to increased

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public acceptance and regression therapy, more

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and more people are coming forward with stories

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of abductions and strange fertilization procedures

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that occur during their frightening experiences.

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Are aliens involved in a complex hybridization

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project where human females are used as vessels

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to carry hybrid fetuses and human males have

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their sperm harvested until they're ready to

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be transferred elsewhere? And if so, to what

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end? Extraordinary The Seeding is a riveting

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documentary that tells these stories through

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one -on -one interviews. with abductees, brave

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individuals willing to share intensely personal

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and emotional stories with the rest of the world.

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Through analysis with global ufology experts,

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the film also explores hybridization, why it's

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happening and why the impact on humanity is and

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will be. The information presented is intended

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to educate, entertain and encourage audiences

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to ask one simple question. What if it's all

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true? With that, I'm just going to read you a

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couple quick reviews of this whole thing, and

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then I'm going to give you, I watched this blessing

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of a documentary, unfortunately, not to spoil

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anything. Can I just ask, is it better than the

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Stanley Tiger story? No. I will give you a more

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detailed review of that at the end of this. I

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felt like mine needed to come last, best for

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last, right? One out of ten. This one's titled

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Mixed Nuts Mockumentary. Ridiculous and silly.

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I don't know if these people are on drugs or

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should be on drugs. Just a bunch of mixed up

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people telling stories. They try really hard

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to make you believe that they have been abducted

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and have had sex with aliens. Ha ha. Honestly,

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I don't know if this is a comedy, a hoax, or

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an array of mentally ill persons. Shake my head.

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Right, I only gave that one review. So Taylor,

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I would like you to take a look at, I'm just

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gonna share you a link here in general. I'd like

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you to take a look at, and I just want you to

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give me a feeling. Just explain to me kind of

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what you're seeing. I'm having a really hard

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time with this. Okay. So what I'm sharing with

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you is the G3 website. This is the exact movie

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that I'm talking about. It has the synopsis.

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It has the reviews. It has everything. The specific

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place I linked you to is the awards that this

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film has won. Oh yeah, there it is. Okay. So

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I just want you to read a couple of the recognition

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and awards that they have here. So they won the

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Best Documentary in People's Choice Award at

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the 2019 IUFOCEBE Film Festival. The Best Featured

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Documentary at the 2019 Aphrodite Film Festival.

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The Best Featured Documentary Silver Award. which

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I don't know what that means. I think that's

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good, but just take a scroll. Would you get from

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this that they've won a good amount? Many awards.

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Yes, many awards. Okay. Would it surprise you

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if I told you that they have actually not won

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one single award for this documentary? It kind

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of would. I thought what they were going for

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was submitting it to literally every film festival

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to get awards. Yeah. So that would surprise me

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that they won none. Yeah. Now, if you scroll

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down a little bit, you'll see official selection.

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All those ones in the, like, place. Those ones

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you can tell are official selections, but right

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above it, there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,

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10, where they legitimately make you seem like

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they have won these awards. They were nominated.

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okay they actually i don't know what these are

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the selections they submitted for but they have

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actually not won a single thing for this documentary

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and i feel this to be majorly misleading that

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they have this on their website just to put it

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out there that i was not reading this wrong as

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well I do like that I have somebody also backing

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up the fact that I was confused. I went and looked

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up each of these film festivals and found that

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they actually did not win a single one of these

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ones that they have put on there that they have

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in fact won. They did not. I did really like.

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that they do, of course, from famous people in

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the UFO community, such as George Norrie and

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Nick Pope. Yeah, which I am going to touch a

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bit, I think, in the next episode. OK, so let's.

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See, actually, hold on, the seating. Yeah, actually,

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I am going to read that right now. That's not

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the next episode. It is actually Taylor actually

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segmenting to this next part nicely. Segwayed.

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Segwaying nicely to this next part. Reviews extraordinary

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the seating. This is from the same exact website

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that Taylor just read all the major awards that

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they won. The first one is from Whitley Strieber,

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who is the author of Communion and Fiction. He's

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come up a few times. Yeah. Finally, somebody

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gets it right. An intelligence searching exploration

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of the alien abduction mystery. Jim Semivan,

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vice president operations to the Stars Academy.

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CIA, senior intelligence service in classified

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projects for 25 years. And Jim Semivan says,

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quote, this documentary will be a seminal moment

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in the history of ufology. It is that good. George

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Norrie, host of Coast to Coast AM says, quote,

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UFO documentaries usually focus on lights in

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the sky, evidence and conspiracy theories. This

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film flips the script and shares the emotional

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impact abduction experiences have on the contactee.

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It's about time. Uh, I don't know who that is,

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so I'm skipping it. Nick Pope! Quote, Oh, Nick

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Pope. I should tell you who he is if you don't

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know who he is. He's the former lead investigator

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of UFO sightings for the British Ministry of

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Defense. Quote, If you have the slightest interest

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in the alien abduction mystery, this is a film

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you should check out. I'm not reading the rest

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of these people. I don't know who they are. So.

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Those are the reviews. And I must say, reading

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those reviews, I'm surprised that some of these

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people would even comment on it, given it's the

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second in a series. They don't seem to know about

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either of the videos. Exactly! Does that make

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sense? They just seem to make very general comments.

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Yes! So that's the thing and I don't put it past

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George Norrie commenting on something he knows

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nothing about and that has to be my suspicion

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about the other two is aren't the other two the

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others that they did absolutely no research in

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this because I'm led to believe they're fully

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unaware of the association with the child predator

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from the first of the series. or they're literally

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like, it's UFO, sure I'll say something about

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it. I seriously have to believe in my soul that

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they have no idea about Stanley Romanuk. But

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Stanley Romanuk has also been on Coast to Coast

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AM. This is someone who talked about his videos

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within the community, so... I don't know. I'm

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torn here about what the fuck is going on with

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these people and why they're reviewing and why

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on their website they have all of these recognition

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and rewards that aren't true. So I just want

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to give my review on it. I would not give it

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a 5 .4 out of 10. Mine's probably closer to 2

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or 3. It is boring. It is seriously boring. It

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has nothing to do with the first extraordinary,

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which I don't blame it for having nothing to

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do with the first extraordinary. No, but the

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reason they did it was to play off of the fact

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that some people watched it and would watch a

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second. Yes, that's what they're leading you

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to believe with what they said in that biography.

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Yeah. Nothing other than the name is tying it

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to the first one. It's boring. I did not even

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get to the end. I'm going to be completely honest

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with you. the people that they have talking.

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Yes, they're regular people. You don't really

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know their background or anything. Yeah, I mean,

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.599
that's my review of it. I mean, it talks a lot,

00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:33.309
a lot about. Seeding. It talks a lot about hybrids.

00:30:33.390 --> 00:30:36.470
It talks a lot about like reproduction and stuff

00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:39.349
like that. It talks a lot about miscarriages.

00:30:39.890 --> 00:30:43.410
It talks a lot about one of the abductees is

00:30:43.410 --> 00:30:47.529
a lesbian. It talks a lot about a lot of uncomfortable

00:30:47.529 --> 00:30:50.549
things that I think a lot of men would feel uncomfortable

00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:53.710
with. Most of the abductees are female and talked

00:30:53.710 --> 00:30:56.880
about female related things. They're being seated,

00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.099
so that makes sense, yeah. I thought was a really

00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:03.440
strange angle. Especially with the comments from,

00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.099
like, Nick Pope and George Rory. I really thought

00:31:06.099 --> 00:31:09.460
it was a strange angle to go with for a second

00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:12.440
one where they're trying to make it open for

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.039
everybody is kind of how they made it seem in

00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.009
that blog post. I was even shocked. It's not

00:31:18.009 --> 00:31:20.589
things that bother me. I was just shocked by

00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:23.329
it knowing that other people would probably be

00:31:23.329 --> 00:31:27.130
very uncomfortable by how female oriented it

00:31:27.130 --> 00:31:31.849
was. So that's my review of it. I think that

00:31:31.849 --> 00:31:34.970
I'm going to leave it here on this one. I'm going

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:37.990
to leave it at a cliffhanger after extraordinary

00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:42.509
the seating. And in the next episode, let's get

00:31:42.509 --> 00:31:47.240
into extraordinary the revelations. And let's

00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.259
talk about the directors that are behind the

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:55.759
Extraordinary series. Okay. So let's ponder that

00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.819
for the next... Oh, I don't know how many hours

00:31:58.819 --> 00:32:01.660
are in a week. I was trying to end it like a

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:06.200
mini. Oh, hold on! What do you have to add? Well,

00:32:06.500 --> 00:32:09.460
I just want to say that I find this a problem

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:11.900
of the economic system that we have in place.

00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.000
In that... It is so much easier to build off

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:19.720
of an un -established brand, even if it's not

00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.319
good, or it has negatives attached to it, than

00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.140
to create an entirely new brand. That's totally

00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:28.579
fair. And that seems to be the problem with this

00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:30.819
situation. I would completely agree with that.

00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:33.799
They're like, we already established this. Let's

00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.259
continue on with where we're going. Netflix bought

00:32:37.259 --> 00:32:40.000
it. Why would we not continue it even though

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.799
it's attached to this pedophile? I would also

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.759
say, given what I know now, knowing how this

00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.000
series ends, I think this is just me saying,

00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:55.160
but they might even said it's vaguely connected.

00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.799
It's still all UFOs. We can continue with this.

00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.900
Yeah. But no, they most importantly said, we

00:33:01.900 --> 00:33:04.559
built so much credit off of this, we can't afford

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.900
to not use it again. Yeah, that's true. I mean,

00:33:08.220 --> 00:33:10.500
they did say in that podcast, they were like,

00:33:10.859 --> 00:33:13.740
it was it was meant to be it was fate that somebody

00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:16.680
ended up picking it up after all of this was

00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.700
causing us to fail. So maybe they just continued

00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:23.180
with it after that. And that's a very good point.

00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.619
But yeah, that's it. It's just the fact that

00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:30.890
it's. In any sane or normal society, you just

00:33:30.890 --> 00:33:32.730
ended at that. And if you have other stories

00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:35.569
to tell, you tell them separately from Stanley.

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:38.329
Personally, yeah, exactly. I would have probably

00:33:38.329 --> 00:33:41.069
moved on with another one and been like, you

00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:44.670
know, I want to keep directing. Let's just direct

00:33:44.670 --> 00:33:48.150
a whole different movie. And in this area too,

00:33:48.569 --> 00:33:50.970
just like these will be separate from Stanley

00:33:50.970 --> 00:33:54.089
because my God, this came out and we cannot have

00:33:54.089 --> 00:33:57.430
a catch to this. And they said, no, we've already

00:33:57.430 --> 00:34:00.650
built some brand. And the real shocker behind

00:34:00.650 --> 00:34:03.910
it was all of those credible people giving reviews

00:34:03.910 --> 00:34:07.269
as well. I was really shocked by it. Yeah. But

00:34:07.269 --> 00:34:09.789
yeah, that's all I had to add. Well, we've reached

00:34:09.789 --> 00:34:12.590
the end, I think. So now you have seven days

00:34:12.590 --> 00:34:16.949
worth of hours to contemplate what part two is

00:34:16.949 --> 00:34:20.590
going to bring you. What is it? 168 hours? 168

00:34:20.590 --> 00:34:21.449
hours. I don't know. I just said I don't know

00:34:21.449 --> 00:34:28.780
how many hours. Okay. Yeah. 120 plus 48, so 168.

00:34:29.500 --> 00:34:33.179
168 hours. Well, less than that because there's

00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:36.280
a mini and then you forget all about it. Plus,

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.820
also, you can listen to this episode, which kind

00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:42.480
of cuts in time to the next episode, so. So,

00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.840
see you there. Yeah. We'll see you there. Goodbye.

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