from the unexplained to the mundane. Come join
us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome
to Journey to the Fringe. And Chelsea, I don't
really have an opener. It's more on a side that
we need to go over right now. I think it is only
due to societal pressures that we pronounce it
dandelions and not dandelions. and I can't get
it out of my head and I just need that to be
known to people. There are so many things that
could be pronounced in a different way that could
you imagine though if you're just talking to
someone in there like dandelions? Yeah, somebody
who had only read the word and looked at those
beautiful dandelions. In a social setting and
like, I think I would ponder it for a minute
before he's like, okay, was he trying to say
dandelion? Yeah, I don't know if I hadn't thought
of that. If somebody said that, I would fully
assume they're talking about dandelions at that
point. But it sounds flowery, that name, does
it not? It sounds like it's how it actually should
be, but for societal pressures. There ought to
be a day where you just pronounce things weird.
Try pronouncing things new. What would you call
that day? It needs to be there. Alternate pronunciation
day. The funnest day on the earth. I am so excited
to go pray to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
personally. Yes. Anyhow, we are your podcast
hosts, Taylor and Chelsea. Here today, probably
covering a two -parter in what... Mayor may not
be to connected stories it's weird to explain
starting out here but what we go through the
entire story it's gonna make more sense okay
i'm really curious what's this about we are talking
about the ufo hotbed. Golf breeze florida have
you ever heard. I need to look at the. No, no,
I haven't I haven't maybe I have though. Maybe
I have I need more information at this point
What weirdly enough I bought secondhand? I think
this is like four years ago at a used bookstore
a book called the golf breeze incident Oh wait,
I think I have heard this but vaguely I can't
think of anything It's written by an Edward Walters
who we're going to be talking a lot about in
this episode. I'm actually glad if you haven't
heard about this one. This is a really fun story
that takes some twists and turns that we're going
to go through and just learn like why Golf Breeze
is significant in the UFO community. I always
love a good twist and a turn and potentially
an asshole to look into at a later date. This
is where we're looking into him. We'll learn
about him. Okay, good. I would hope so. Okay,
good. strap yourselves in. For some reason, our
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You as podcaster listeners, I don't think they're
mandatory, but you should just invest in some
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should, because mine's done up. You've told you
so many times to do it. I know. And you wouldn't
believe how many times the seat belt has come
in handy while we've been recording. Well and
you gotta admit, you guys look really awkward
when I say strap yourselves in and you guys do
the like fastening your seatbelt motion like
you're on a plane and just look like a fool in
public because you don't have that seatbelt with
you. You would look so much better if you had
the seatbelt. It's true, just to do it up while
everyone was watching you pretend to do it up.
Judging you. With those eyes. We know the eyes.
Anyhow, Chelsea, our story starts in the 80s,
specifically on November 11th, 1987, when a building
contractor by the name of Edward Walters is working
late at his home when he notices a strange light
outside his property. Intrigued, he made his
way to the window to see what the source of the
glow might be. What was it? A glowing object
hovering in the sky, although his view was partially
obscured by a tree outside his house. Wanting
to get a better view, Walters immediately ventures
outside. Good choice. He makes a of good choices
actually as we get going here. I love that for
him. As soon as he stepped outside he realized
he was viewing something out of the ordinary.
He would later describe the object quote top
shaped craft which I think he means like a spinning
top end quote. Okay. Sorry I need to end the
quote differently there but you guys all get
what I was trying to do. They're strapped in
of course they do. Yes this is why you have the
straps. The top had a circle of bright lights
on the underside. Around the edges were what
appeared to be dark square windows that were
separated by portals, as he called them. Upon
coming to his senses, he sees it, he's like,
whoa, and he's like, wait, I clearly need a camera.
So he goes and gets his Polaroid camera, grabs
it, comes back outside, and he snaps several
photos of the phenomenon from his front yard.
Wanting to get a better view, he left his front
yard, steps out onto the street. heads closer
to the UFO and takes several more photos as he
does this. A moment later the object headed in
his direction and then hovered directly over
where he was standing and he took five Polaroids
of the object in the sky outside his home. Walters
reported seeing the object hover about 200 feet
above the ground describing it as being quote
right out of a Spielberg movie end quote. As
he looked at the craft, a sudden bright blue
beam of light came from its underside and struck
him. He said the force of the light was so strong
that he was even lifted several feet from the
ground. He later described the moment to a local
newspaper stating that as soon as the light hit
him, he was unable to move his arms and that
his entire body appeared blue. He further recalled
that he was, quote, trying to breathe, but my
chest wouldn't expand, end quote. At the same
time, a voice appeared in his head stating that
he should not worry and that, quote, we will
not harm you, end quote. Despite these assurances,
Walter screamed to be put down. He also recalled
a, quote, piercing smell, a little scent of ammonia
mixed with heavy cinnamon. We've heard cinnamon
before. I don't know where. I don't really remember
that. You don't? No. End quote. And this scent,
quote, scorched and then stuck to, end quote,
the back of his throat. Things then turned even
more bizarre as he began seeing pictures and
images of dogs in his head, further describing
this as if he was turning pages in a book in
his mind while humming sounds began resonating
in his head. The next memory he had was waking
up on the ground. He looked up and around him
and the strange craft was now nowhere to be seen.
Dazed and perplexed at what had transpired, Walters
returned to his house with his camera. November
17th of the same year, Ed goes and contacts a
local newspaper, the Gulf Breeze Sentinel, and
met with an editor and told him of events occurring
six nights earlier, as well as presenting this
photographic evidence. However, Ed did so under
the guise of having been given the photos by
somebody else named Mr. X and remained anonymous
during this time. That seems like an odd thing
to do. However, days and weeks go by and he would
eventually claim He claims further sightings
and eventually admits that he was the anonymous
friend who was the witness to these bizarre happenings.
So November 11th, the first sighting, November
17th, when he goes and talks to the newspaper.
On the evening of November 20th, Walters claimed
to suddenly be able to hear voices coming from
somewhere, as well as a hum that filled his head
during his initial encounter. He left what he
was doing and made his way outside. Once there,
he could see a glowing orb -like object that
was descending. Then it stopped and hovered in
place for several moments allowing him to take,
again, more photos of it. Several weeks later,
at around 3 .30am on December 2nd, the family's
pet dog awoke Walter from sleep with its sudden
barking. Walter's got out of bed, headed to the
French doors where the dog had its focus, and
Walter's opened the blinds and was beyond shocked
to see a strange figure standing directly outside
looking at him. He described the creature as
being around four feet tall with a particularly
large head and black eyes. Walters claims that
he was surprised at the sight that he momentarily
fell to the ground in shock after the two locked
stairs for several moments and the strange figure
turned around and began to walk away. At this
point, Walters opens the door, began to pursue
the creature, and after taking only a few steps,
the bright blue beam of light rapidly descended
from above and instantly paralyzed him. He looked
on as the small figure headed off into the field
and disappeared from sight. I'm finding a couple
things interesting already. Don't worry, there's
more to the story. There will be more interesting
things. Okay. A moment later, the blue beam retracted
and he could move once more. Already with his
camera in hand, he took a picture of the object.
now hovering over the field where the creature
went headed, shooting a blue beam down to the
ground. Walter stated that it was his belief
that this second beam was, quote, picking up
the creature, end quote, that had been outside
the house. Two nights later, in early hours of
December 5th, holy Jesus, Ed awoke in the middle
of the night and witnessed objects hovering over
the high school that was near Walter's home.
After several moments, the object descended.
Although Ed could not tell if it hovered just
above the ground or it actually landed. In total,
over this time period, Chelsea, from November
11th, December 5th, he took 32 photos and one
video recording of the object over these sightings.
It's funny, if I Google it, only like three or
four come up, actually. They're actually all
in the book, funny enough. I mean, that's probably
a red flag. Don't worry. There will be time for
red flags when we get to red flags, Chelsea.
Oh, they're just a fly in. They're just a fly
in out right now. OK. But I'm keeping my mouth
shut so far. By this time not only had many in
the local community heard about Walter's claims
but so did Mufon who contacted Ed in order to
conduct an investigation into these enigmatic
events. Oh man. So Mufon gets involved here and
after examining the photographs and listening
to the details that Ed accounts they are largely
impressed and even describe it as one of the
most incredible cases in modern UFO history.
They had even provided Walters with specialized
cameras and equipment so that he could capture
clear images should he have any further encounters.
I love that for this story. Investigators also
began to collect other sightings from Gulf Breeze
and nearby residents. So it's not just him seeing
this. One of these events even occurred on the
same day as Walter's initial sighting on November
11th, several hours earlier at 4 30 a .m. Arthur
Hooford. claimed that on the afternoon in question,
he and his wife witnessed an object that looked
exactly like the one photographed by Walters
hovering over trees in Pensacola. Resting. In
an article of Hufford's report, Jackie Brooks
wrote in the New Journal that he was a, quote,
quiet, sober, involved, intelligent, unquote,
man, and someone, quote, you would trust to tell
the truth, end quote. In the same article, she
also highlighted a similar sighting by Dr. Fenner
McConnell, describing him as a, quote, Well -respected
man of community and someone known for extreme
views or exotic notions. I feel like that's wrong,
but I'm gonna keep going with it Okay, I have
to assume they mean not known for extreme views
or exotic notions, but that's not what it says
I always wonder if I was to ever see a UFO like
how people would describe me as either being
credible or not Are people still respected in
communities anymore? That's my one question Yeah,
maybe. Like, community might be used loosely.
I feel like it's just not hated within the community
nowadays, because I feel like that's the only
reputation you get anymore. What with society
killing the idea of community? That's true, but
you would have to ask people directly, because
if you ask people on social media, like, everyone
would hate you, I think. Because you get behind
a screen and people feel a lot looser to give
their full opinions. I mean, it really depends
on what you mean by social media. If it's blue
sky, they might say good things. If it's Twitter,
whatever they call it now these days, there might
be a few N words and other things thrown around.
Yeah, I've seen people's opinions. I think there's
a little bit too much leeway given. Well, not
leeway, just ability now that people shouldn't
have. It's too easy to give their opinion. Anyhow,
not known for his extreme views or exotic notions
and like huge his accounts work were operated
by his wife. So these seem to line up and MUFON
is pumped that they have this kind of sighting
going on with multiple times over the course
of months and photographic evidence from each
time it happens. Like super pumped. But as they
get going a few holes start to show up. Oh no.
Many, even in the UFO community, were far from
convinced from Walters credibility. Just one
of whom was the Center for UFO Studies. One of
the main refutes against Walters is that he intentionally
produced the photographs using double exposure
techniques and a toy model. Which Chelsea, I
don't know if you know what double exposure is.
It's basically when you take one picture and
then take another picture on top of it. Oh, okay.
Which makes it look like something completely
different. Yeah. But, you know, with a Polaroid,
it's hard to do that. Is it? Yeah, because the
photo comes out once you do it. Yeah, but then
you just take another Polaroid of that photo.
That's not quite how that works. It's because
the film gets exposed. You can re -expose the
film to another shot and it'll have an underprint
of the first photo in it. Oh, okay. Do you understand
that? Yeah. It's basically how ghosts kind of
show up on some pictures is because there was
a negative already on there that when it took
the photo and it gets a little blurry because
of it. Oh, I didn't know that. That's actually
it can explain away some of the ghost photos.
I've actually never heard that theory put forth
before. Oh, okay. Which is super interesting.
And the veracity of these claims appeared even
more certain when ufologist Zan Overall seemingly
discovered that Walters did indeed he'd have
the knowledge of how to do double exposure techniques
and the capability to utilize them. Even those
who did not accuse Walters of perpetrating a
hoax were not as convinced of the photograph's
authenticity. The National Enquirer asked a photo
expert with NASA, Dr. Robert Nathan, to analyze
the pictures as they were interested in running
a story on Walters' accounts. Ultimately, however,
he stated his findings were inconclusive and
so couldn't say with certainty that they weren't
fake. There were also details that came to light
such as Walters reported paying a fee to Dr.
Bruce McCabe in order to write a chapter in a
potential book he had been given a six -figure
advance for that he was to call UFO's proof positive.
A little weird thing there. Just a little weird
thing. However, when the publisher had the photographs
analyzed, they received a similar report that
was given by Dr. Robert Nathan and ultimately
had the title of the book changed to The Golf
Breeze Sightings. Interesting. We should also
note that during this time, Walter's wife and
family stood by his accounts. Furthermore, in
February of 88, Walter's passed two polygraph
tests regarding his claims. Now, despite the
skeptics, however, further sightings of the bizarre
object hovering and moving over the region continued
to unfold, with Walter's himself recording several
more apparent close encounters. Indeed, although
he began by giving his information under the
guise of a go -between, he quickly became a celebrity
in the state of Florida, even appearing appearing
on several television shows that wish to examine
his apparent evidence of visitation. With all
of this fame and fortune, he moved out of the
house where most of the sightings had occurred
and he moved elsewhere in the region to an undisclosed
location. And he specifically kind of says that
he did this because he was getting too big in
the UFO world and he wanted to be kind of remain
anonymous, not have people come visit him in
his house. That property stood empty for close
to a year. And when it was clear to the UFO adventure
seekers that Walters had indeed gone for good,
the house was finally bought by somebody named
Robert Menzer. that name's gonna come up again
here soon. Really? Okay. Actually, immediately.
I didn't realize it was immediately. I thought
it was a little further down. Menzer moves in
and he says in the June 10th 1990 edition of
the Pensacola News Journal that he had ventured
into the loft of the house in order to turn off
water so he could install a new ice maker and
as he was moving insulation in the attic he finds
a model UFO. No way! And he claims it. Does this
guy have both of his arms? Robert Menzer or Ed
Walters? Ed Walters. I assume so, why? This is
getting a little suspicious, and I don't know,
Billy Mayer would have never left the homeland.
Yeah, they don't speak enough German in Florida.
He's not going there. No, they really don't know.
Okay. So Menzer says that the object was made
of two foam plates and two slightly smaller foam
plates with paper rings in between them, onto
which windows had seemingly been drawn. Perhaps
even more damaging when the paper was removed,
records of a house sale were discovered in handwriting
that appeared to match that of Walters. In response
to the find, Walters completely dismisses this
and he says, quote, only a fool would leave behind
such a piece of evidence. End quote. Further
stating that the model have clearly been quote
unquote planted in order to discredit both him
and the many sightings he had experienced. He
added that the house sale records were his papers
and that they related to a house sale which fell
through two years after his initial sightings
in November of 1987. I don't really get the sale
of the house papers thing, but whatever. I think
it's just tying it to him that they were found
together. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. And they
likely would have been his if it was found with
papers of his. Yeah okay that makes sense. He
stated that he often found people searching in
his trash and that someone must have retrieved
the house paperwork from there. In another twist,
investigators eventually discovered that the
plans did indeed match those of a housing project
for 1989 that had fallen through. Walter stated
the model Mincer had discovered was not at all
like the crafts he'd photographed. Although he
stopped short of accusing Menzer of being behind
the model, he heavily hinted at it. We should
note that Menzer only revealed the model's existence
when a reporter arrived at the property in relation
to the former owner. That is hilarious. He didn't
actually go to the papers for it. This paper
wanted to write a story about it. He's like,
oh yeah, I found this. Does this help your claim
at all? If this guy had any brains, he would
have been like, yeah, I was just trying to recreate
the UFO that I saw. I don't know. Like, if we
know anything about how the world works now,
it's either you deny or you don't even answer
the question and you just completely respond
to something else. Like, that's how the world
works these days. And he didn't do a bad job
with that. Yeah. Now, with those cases at the...
All that happening, Walters appears to kind of
weather the storm and his claims of the model
being a plant are taken pretty well by actually
the people who believe him. Then, something else
happens, Chelsea. Oh, I'm so excited. What happens?
What happens? So the following week, June 17th,
1990 edition of the Pensacola News Journal, another
article appears concerning Walters UFO sightings.
In it, a teenager by the name of Tom Smith claims
that he had assisted Walters in making the UFO
model. just before the sightings began. He went
on that Walters had first taken pictures of the
model which had been made to give the appearance
of glowing and then taken pictures of the night
sky using the same frame on the film, which is
what double exposure is. He even revealed that
to make it appear that a UFO had landed in a
nearby field, Walters had turned a trampoline
upside down and then jumped on it over and over
again in order to flatten the grass and vegetation
in the shape of the round object. Smith continued
that, to begin with, he thought Walters was merely
going to play a joke on family or friends. However,
when he asked him to take the photographs to
the newspaper as if he had taken them in order
to make the story more believable, Smith realized
that Walters was looking to dupe the media and
publicize for financial gain. Not wanting to
get caught in a fraud, not least as he didn't
want to disappoint his family, Smith declined
to further be involved. When Smith's parents
were interviewed about their son's claims, they
stated that what he was saying was true and that
he had told them about the trickery before. And
while they had urged him to come forward with
the truth, he wished to stay out of the affair
until now. So this was three years after the
whole thing. And you got to think about it, I
don't know how old he was at that time, but three
years for a teenager is a lot of time to grow
up. That's true. That's true. But this story
just keeps going, Chelsea. So providing further
interesting backstory to the claims of the Smith
family was the fact that Smith was running against
Ed Walters for city council. What? The dad of
the teenager who allegedly helped him do this
is running against him for city council. Ed Wolter's
apparently got involved in politics, and this
is when it all comes out. Oh my god. Of course
he's getting involved in politics. Yeah, he's
got money, he's a celebrity. Coincidentally or
not, around the same time their son came forward
with the claims is when this all happened. So
the Smith family could have some motive for saying
this. Yes. Yeah. This, as we might imagine, led
those who backed Walters' accounts as proof and
fact to accuse Tom Smith of not only lying, but
of the Smith family being behind the plant of
the model in the first place so that they could
then publicly humiliate Walters. But of course,
Smith family denies this. Those who side with
Walters turn their attention to the claims made
by Smith. For example, landing spot that was
examined and investigated did not grow vegetation
for almost 18 months. So they say. And what's
more, no chemicals or other agents were discovered
that could have caused the lack of growth, in
a perfect circle no less. This was something
that certainly could not be produced by jumping
on an upside -down trampoline. There was also
the details that Smith had given regarding how
Walters achieved the blue beam of light shown
in one of the pictures. He had claimed that Walters
had peeled away ever so slightly the back of
the film. This was something that those with
knowledge of photography stated would not achieve
such a result. Perhaps even more damaging for
Smith's claim were that, as well as those who
believe double exposure was the cause of the
UFO in the photograph, is that no photographic
expert could produce a double -exposed using
the camera that Walter said he used, a Sun 600
Polaroid. Perhaps most damaging of all to Smith's
claims was the fact that there's absolutely no
evidence whatsoever that Smith had ever met Walter's
before or after the sighting. Which, I don't
know, there's not a lot of paper evidence, even
in this day and age, of any relationships people
have with teenagers. That's just how it works,
is it not? Unless you're related to them. So
Smith offered in response to this that Ed had
used Smith's camera to take the photographs and
not the Polaroid which he said he even produced
these fake UFO pictures and made them available
to the media to prove how easily he could do
it and when these pictures were analyzed no evidence
whatsoever could be found to show that these
were fake meaning perhaps ironically by their
own standard they had declared the pictures authentic
images of UFOs. What? He's like oh yeah no those
didn't come from a Polaroid they came from my
camera I can even show you how I did it and he
made more UFO photos and they're like, yeah these
appear to be authentic Basically when they say
authentic they just mean they haven't been tampered
with Further turns in the already strange affair
occur following Walter's self -publishing of
the book, which I talked about before, that contained
many of the photographs. As we might imagine,
many people were eager to see the pictures close
up for themselves, both believers and skeptics
alike, and one picture in particular drew the
attention of skeptics, as one wore the UFOs just
above a road. In this image, an apparent UFO
is hovering and casts a reflection on the road
below. However, this picture was examined by
one particular photographic expert, and it was
determined that the were approximately nine times
larger than normal, suggesting that these reflections
were not coming from the road, but were suspended
in the air. Further analysis suggested that the
reflections didn't match the bottom of the underside
of the craft and that the road appeared too bright
to be a reflection from the object. Although
it appeared that Walters had finally been exposed,
some investigators pointed out that if the object
had been at an angle while the photographs had
been taken, this would explain the long shadows
and discrepancy in them matching the craft's
underside and the brightness of the road. Now
despite these the counterclaims to the apparent
exposures of Walters photographs being fakes,
it appeared at least as far as Mufon was concerned,
who really liked Walters at the time, that it
was finally time for them to withdraw support.
Oh, thank God. So after all of this happens,
they finally go out and in a state regarding
matter, they offer their belief in UFOs and that
they had, quote, entered this investigation with
a natural and favorable bias towards Walters
case. But our investigation and analysis lend
to the conclusion that several, if not all of
the photographs are probable hoaxes, end quote.
But regardless of Mufon's position, the fact
is that there were many more than just Ed Walters,
who also claimed to have seen UFOs in the Gulf
Breeze region of Florida during the late 80s,
early 90s. According to some sources, around
200 other people in the region made reports of
similar objects to those allegedly reported photographed
by Walters, with some of them even offering their
own photographs. One resident, Bland Pew, which
is a terrible name. managed to capture a picture
of an apparent alien craft in 93. This is an
absolutely terrible picture, so don't even bother
looking at it. Furthermore, in 1990, a group
of witnesses and believers organized themselves
into a loose organization that was dedicated
to studying sightings as well as documenting
any further encounters. And they would not be
disappointed observing and documenting several
encounters, including one that is similar to
the object to the one Walters claimed to have
seen. that had red lights on the underside. Although
the concentration of sightings in Gulf Breeze
began to slow as the 90s unfolded, reports of
bizarre aerial crafts continue to come from that
region, and it remains a location with more than
its fair share of UFO activity. The surge of
activity, however, at the end of the 80s into
the early 90s arguably remains the region's most
active years. In response to the Gulf Breeze
sightings, MUFON ends up holding its first annual
UFO symposium in nearby Pensacola, 1990. attracting
hundreds of attendees. The conference continued
for a remainder of the decade in this area and
the director of tourism for Golf Breeze said
that the free publicity attracted tourists and
UFO sightseers. A local travel agent even said
that she arranged 600 flights for the MUFON conference.
Merchants began selling UFO related goods in
the area. That's crazy. It ends up being a big
thing. And that is the year immediately after
Bill Moore did his weird rant up at the MUFON
symposium. So this was the one they followed
that up with. It's not looking good for MUFON
at this time. It's sure not. I should note in
1993, somebody from News Journal revisited this,
named Curtis, the evidence against Walter's account
mentioning a friend of the Walters family, Tommy
Smith, that come forward admitting to, quote,
witness Ed faking UFO pictures, end quote, as
a practical joke. Curtis also reported that Walters
and his wife had divorced in 92 and they had
to split $2 .5 million in assets that Curtis
believed came from the hoax. So he got a ton
of money from this entire thing and like got
a book deal out of it. Now, right in and around
the MUFON 1990 symposium in Gulf Breeze area,
there's a group called the Gulf Breeze Six, and
it is six people who went AWOL from the military
and were posted in Germany, and they ended up
getting arrested in an area at that time. And
that's gonna be part two of this story. Whether
or not it's related to any of this, we're gonna
see. I'm gonna keep it vague at that point, but
it's just so weird that this other thing up happening
right around this and engulf Breeze. So I think
this is a good place to end it. It is a wild
story. And go ahead. You already mentioned Bill
Moore. I think we ought to throw Mufon on the
future episode list. At this point, it's not
a bad idea. I think between the 80s and the 90s,
they have a ton of baggage that never heard addressed.
Yeah. My other thing that immediately I went
to when I was like red flags everywhere was the
being that he saw on his front door, which I
believe was described as a gray. Yeah. Guess
when communion came out. Oh, man. Is it 87? It
is. Yeah. Yeah. February 1987, and this I believe
you said was November 87, which was a wildly
popular time for to graze. If you've ever heard
the story of communion and the cover of communion,
that was my other thing that I immediately went
to. I just want to add this too, at this point,
when we're talking about the grays. Thank you
for bringing that up, because they maybe remember.
That totally reminded me of the Stanley Tiger
story. I know. That was the other thing. I'm
glad you said that. It is almost exactly like...
Technology was too good for Stanley Tiger, so
it became very obvious. It reminds me exactly
of the Stanley Tigers story. This guy that just
happens to be constantly surrounded by UFOs.
Just getting like the best footage. Stanley Tigers
is so good with the grays in his house. Yes,
thank you for following my own train of thought
that I forgot because that was my other thing.
It sounds exactly like Stanley Tiger. Bill Moore
being in Mufon in and around the same time, which
it doesn't seem like he's like talking about
this, but maybe they needed this to kind of distract
from the mess that Bill Moore made. To be fair,
Bill Moore was too busy with his own drama going
on at this time to really address this. and it
being very close to. And he got it. I mean, most
people will be like, I don't want to make money
off of this. You don't see me getting rich, but
this guy got rich. He already had a book deal.
He already had a book deal, like right as it's
going on. Yeah, so those are just all the things
that I noticed about the story. So yeah, every
now and then you might hear about the Gulf Breeze
incident. This is literally it. Oh, and I forgot
to mention too, there is a fairly large Air Force
base very close to Gulf Breeze, which does somewhat
explain the sightings. And in fact... Oh, I guess
so. People did go talk to the base as well and
say, like, hey, was there anything weird on your
radar these nights? They said no. Nothing weird
was on a radar any of the nights that - As a
matter of fact, yes! And Walter saw it! Yeah.
Oh. Because we always hear that come up with
these UFO stories that the military just comes
clean about the secret shit that they're testing.
Don't worry about us, is what they say. Yeah,
maybe. I don't know. Who's asking? We're definitely
not gonna have Richard Doty be in contact. Okay,
good story. I love a good Stanley Tiger story.
The next one is even more bizarre, but it's going
to be the second part because we are like roughly
at the right time for an episode. And I think
the other one's going to be just as long. Fantastic.
So we'll leave it here. I have been Taylor here
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