WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.980 Now, Chelsea, I don't use this source that often 00:00:03.980 --> 00:00:06.519 for news, but this is just the first place I 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:10.560 saw this article. It's Newsweek. So I just honestly, 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.500 I know the name, but I couldn't tell you what 00:00:14.500 --> 00:00:17.359 its kind of reputation is out there. I just know 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.839 it's a name. I would accept it as news. OK. Yeah. 00:00:21.100 --> 00:00:23.019 It's got it in the title. So it's got to be. 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.940 Yeah, exactly. That's how it works. Someone lie. 00:00:28.219 --> 00:00:32.630 Yeah. Exactly. It could not be news. So this 00:00:32.630 --> 00:00:36.570 article comes on May 10th, 2025. It was actually 00:00:36.570 --> 00:00:41.250 updated on May 12th, 2025, written by Holly Silverman 00:00:41.250 --> 00:00:44.409 and article title is Parkinson's disease linked 00:00:44.409 --> 00:00:47.890 to living near golf courses. New study. What? 00:00:48.210 --> 00:00:52.240 Yeah. Okay. I'm intrigued. Researchers found 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.600 that those living within a mile of golf courses 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.780 have 126 % higher risk of developing Parkinson's 00:00:58.780 --> 00:01:01.520 disease than those who live more than six miles 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.079 away, according to a new study published in the 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.219 Journal of the American Medical Association, 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.299 JAMA. JAMA! Newsweek has reached out to Parkinson's 00:01:09.299 --> 00:01:12.060 Foundation as well as the Dr. Brittany Krizanowski 00:01:12.060 --> 00:01:16.629 researcher. Oh, okay. Sorry, there's a comma 00:01:16.629 --> 00:01:19.209 there in this. I was reading as Dr. Brittany 00:01:19.209 --> 00:01:23.689 Krizanowski, the researcher, which is Dr. Brittany 00:01:23.689 --> 00:01:26.709 Krizanowski, comma, researcher for the study, 00:01:27.150 --> 00:01:31.129 comma, or comment. You know, the researcher. 00:01:32.709 --> 00:01:35.530 Areas that shared drinking water supplies with 00:01:35.530 --> 00:01:38.930 water used near golf courses were the most greatly 00:01:38.930 --> 00:01:41.859 impacted, the study shows. Researchers believe 00:01:41.859 --> 00:01:44.299 this shows that the pesticides used on golf courses 00:01:44.299 --> 00:01:46.459 could contribute to the amount of Parkinson's 00:01:46.459 --> 00:01:49.480 cases. Parkinson's disease is a neurodegenerative 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.340 disease estimated to affect about 10 million 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:54.040 people globally. At about 1 .1 million people 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.079 in the United States, according to the Parkinson's 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.459 Foundation, there is no cure but treatments are 00:01:58.459 --> 00:02:01.620 available. Researchers used data of golf course 00:02:01.620 --> 00:02:04.319 locations throughout the US along with data from 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.780 the United States Geological Survey on 224 water 00:02:07.780 --> 00:02:10.819 service areas across 27 counties in Wisconsin 00:02:10.819 --> 00:02:14.599 and Minnesota. Data from 711 municipal wells 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.439 provided by the Minnesota Geospatial Information 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.680 Office was also used to determine the correlation 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.770 between proximity and prevalences of cases. During 00:02:22.770 --> 00:02:26.349 the study, 450 incident cases from 1991 to 2015 00:02:26.349 --> 00:02:28.849 were identified in Olmsted County, Minnesota. 00:02:28.969 --> 00:02:32.409 Quote, the odds of PD, which I think is Parkinson's 00:02:32.409 --> 00:02:41.650 disease, were relatively constant within close 00:02:41.650 --> 00:02:44.189 proximity to a golf course and decreased linearly 00:02:44.189 --> 00:02:47.280 as distance increased. Individuals living farther 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.560 from a golf course have reduced odds of PD decreasing 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.219 relative to the distance from the nearest golf 00:02:53.219 --> 00:02:55.919 course, end quote the study explained. Previous 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.280 studies have already linked chemicals found in 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.580 pesticides including paraquat and rotanone to 00:03:01.580 --> 00:03:04.560 neo -degeneration according to the study. The 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.639 disease impacts the nervous system causing symptoms 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.139 such as tremors, slow movement, and rigid muscles 00:03:09.139 --> 00:03:11.979 among others according to Mayo Clinic. Parkinson's 00:03:11.979 --> 00:03:14.620 disease is believed to be caused by a combination 00:03:14.620 --> 00:03:16.780 of genetics and environmental factors, with men 00:03:16.780 --> 00:03:19.659 1 .25 times more likely to develop the disease. 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.919 Her symptoms may include little expressions on 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.800 the face, difficulty walking, and soft or slurred 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.199 speech. The Parkinson's Foundation says cases 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.400 have been higher in areas such as the Rust Belt, 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.860 which includes parts of the Midwest. Cases are 00:03:31.860 --> 00:03:34.219 also high in Southern California, Southeast Texas, 00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:36.360 Central Pennsylvania, and Florida, according 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.939 to the Foundation. Utah saw the highest rate 00:03:38.939 --> 00:03:42.180 of Parkinson's mortality at 12 .4%, while California 00:03:42.180 --> 00:03:45.280 saw the highest number of deaths, with 4 ,289 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.539 according to the U .S. Center for Disease Control 00:03:47.539 --> 00:03:50.520 and Prevention. National medical advisor for 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.680 the Parkinson's Foundation, Dr. Michael Okun, 00:03:52.900 --> 00:03:55.080 posted on Twitter on Saturday, quote, Parkinson's 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.020 cases are exploding. We now face 11 .8 million 00:03:58.020 --> 00:04:00.259 cases globally and the numbers are climbing fast. 00:04:00.379 --> 00:04:03.379 Despite this reality, we still spend just 2 -3 00:04:03.379 --> 00:04:05.659 % of every Parkinson's dollar on prevention. 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:08.770 That has to change. He also added that quote, 00:04:23.740 --> 00:04:26.139 This isn't about golf, it's about pesticides, 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.660 environmental exposures and preventable risks 00:04:28.660 --> 00:04:31.740 hiding in plain sight. If we don't shift from 00:04:31.740 --> 00:04:34.079 reactive treatment to proactive prevention, the 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.779 burden will become unmanageable. Who will this 00:04:36.779 --> 00:04:39.680 affect? Everyone including families, health systems, 00:04:40.220 --> 00:04:42.879 economies and societies. The science is accumulating. 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.540 The signals are clear. Now we need the will and 00:04:45.540 --> 00:04:48.759 a Parkinson's plan." The researchers also said 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:50.740 in the study, quote, individuals getting their 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.500 tap water from groundwater services areas with 00:04:53.500 --> 00:04:56.420 a golf course had nearly doubled the odds of 00:04:56.420 --> 00:04:59.860 PD compared to, again, Parkinson's disease. compared 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:02.500 with individuals getting tap water from groundwater 00:05:02.500 --> 00:05:05.939 services areas without golf courses and 49 % 00:05:05.939 --> 00:05:08.560 greater odds of PD compared with individuals 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.600 getting drinking water from private wells. Researchers 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.620 say more information is needed to further study 00:05:14.620 --> 00:05:16.579 the link between pesticides, golf courses, and 00:05:16.579 --> 00:05:18.939 the prevalence of Parkinson's disease. The Parkinson's 00:05:18.939 --> 00:05:21.379 Foundation says an estimated 90 ,000 more people 00:05:21.379 --> 00:05:23.459 will be diagnosed this year with the number of 00:05:23.459 --> 00:05:25.680 those suffering expected to be about 1 .2 million 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.889 by 2030. And that's the end of our article. It's 00:05:28.889 --> 00:05:32.089 interesting that they go the link between pesticides 00:05:32.089 --> 00:05:36.009 and golf courses, as if it's the golf course 00:05:36.009 --> 00:05:39.389 itself, contributing to the Parkinson's, which 00:05:39.389 --> 00:05:43.870 I don't, or PD, so sorry. Which I don't think 00:05:43.870 --> 00:05:49.689 is actually a link causing the PD. Golf courses 00:05:49.689 --> 00:05:53.589 don't cause PD, per se. And they're really making 00:05:53.589 --> 00:05:57.199 it seem like it is. I would be interesting to 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.300 see, which they also didn't link in there, is 00:06:00.300 --> 00:06:03.660 the average age of people who reside next to 00:06:03.660 --> 00:06:06.319 golf courses. That is true, but you got to remember 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.720 it's not next to golf courses. It's within one 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.720 to three miles of a golf course. Which is still, 00:06:12.860 --> 00:06:16.180 I would probably go out on a limb to say that 00:06:16.180 --> 00:06:18.720 the average age is going to be higher within 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:20.839 one to three miles of a golf course. I mean, 00:06:20.860 --> 00:06:23.079 yeah, that's fair. We don't exactly know the 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.160 areas that they were studying. I can't give you 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.540 that much. I can tell you I'm within one to three 00:06:27.540 --> 00:06:29.959 miles of a golf course, but also we don't have 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.300 groundwater that we drink where we are. It all 00:06:32.300 --> 00:06:34.579 comes from a pretty far away. That's true. I 00:06:34.579 --> 00:06:37.079 mean, I could definitely see where they're going 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.720 at, but there's definitely some finer tuning 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.939 of the wording that they're using. Yeah. Well, 00:06:42.939 --> 00:06:45.439 and I think that they kind of didn't quite shine 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.339 a light on this, but I think it's harder to study 00:06:47.339 --> 00:06:49.860 that it is somewhat of a follow -up on one of 00:06:49.860 --> 00:06:53.300 the episodes we did a long time ago on the issue 00:06:53.300 --> 00:06:56.540 of modern day yards and specifically the pesticides 00:06:56.540 --> 00:06:59.720 we use to keep them looking just grass and that's 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.579 why it's an interesting link yeah and it's why 00:07:02.579 --> 00:07:04.860 it looks so prevalent with golf courses because 00:07:04.860 --> 00:07:07.279 golf courses are such a large area where they 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.300 need to keep it looking like pristine grass yeah 00:07:10.300 --> 00:07:12.660 and that's why they use a larger amount of this 00:07:12.660 --> 00:07:14.939 and why it's easier to study but i would wonder 00:07:14.939 --> 00:07:18.300 if they could show a very easy link between a 00:07:18.300 --> 00:07:21.139 house that uses pesticides versus one that doesn't 00:07:21.139 --> 00:07:24.939 they could have vined to that investigation a 00:07:24.939 --> 00:07:28.220 little bit further rather than just broadly saying 00:07:28.220 --> 00:07:30.699 golf course. And they never even brought up the 00:07:30.699 --> 00:07:32.279 fact that these might be pesticides you're using 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.300 in your yard and maybe you shouldn't. That's 00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:37.480 true because also you're not necessarily just 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:40.040 going to be having groundwater next to a golf 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:42.300 course. You could be having them in other locations, 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:45.160 but they didn't even mention that at a golf course 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.439 you might be using more pesticides. Yeah. So 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.110 there's work to be done. Was it this week? Technically 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:56.029 Newsweek did the article. I'm wondering if it 00:07:56.029 --> 00:07:58.649 goes more in depth in the actual research paper. 00:07:58.810 --> 00:08:01.209 I haven't read it. I have only read the article, 00:08:01.250 --> 00:08:04.509 which I don't know if it shows it well in this 00:08:04.509 --> 00:08:07.750 article. So it might be worth a read. But yeah, 00:08:08.269 --> 00:08:15.189 like, like we've done all we're willing to do. 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:18.649 It is a mini after all. Other than rant, we will 00:08:18.649 --> 00:08:22.139 rant some more for you. but the modern yard is 00:08:22.139 --> 00:08:26.180 just like so wasteful and bad for the environment 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:28.360 and this is just like one of those factors that 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.439 didn't necessarily get fully brought up in that 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.679 episode but actually that's one that might have 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.000 been interesting to look at is sod farms where 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:36.799 they're growing grass because i guarantee you 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.639 they're using pesticides there as well i didn't 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.960 even think about that yeah i wonder if that'd 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.379 be the next place to study it's gotta be maybe 00:08:43.379 --> 00:08:45.980 not by newsweek that's for sure not by newsweek 00:08:45.980 --> 00:08:50.379 they're not doing their research not at all Yeah, 00:08:50.500 --> 00:08:54.580 that research either. Newsweek, where we only 00:08:54.580 --> 00:08:59.000 vaguely make connections. Live next to a golf 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:06.360 course? Well, you're gonna get PD. Parkinson 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:10.080 was too much for him. That's not generally something 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.940 you would abbreviate, but okay. You got the P 00:09:12.940 --> 00:09:16.519 - oh man, I make light. It's a horrible disease, 00:09:16.580 --> 00:09:19.360 but you got the PD. It is, but abbreviating like 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:22.659 that I feel like is making light. They shouldn't 00:09:22.659 --> 00:09:25.320 have said it. Is it? I don't know, I have S gets 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.440 shortened all the time. But that one's a harder 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:31.379 word to say. Is it? Multiple? Yeah, sclerosis, 00:09:31.419 --> 00:09:33.980 that's harder. Oh, well what about multiple S? 00:09:34.059 --> 00:09:37.620 Why can't they just go with multiple S? Oh god. 00:09:38.220 --> 00:09:41.539 But PD, it doesn't need to be a breed. Maybe 00:09:41.539 --> 00:09:44.960 it's just because it's not normalized, PD. Or 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:49.159 is it? I don't know. I don't know either. Anyhow, 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.559 it's a horrible disease. What's his name? The 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.840 kid from Back to the Future. Oh, I was just thinking 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.480 about him. He's still going strong. Somebody 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.320 tweeted him and see if it's acceptable by him 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.639 to breed. Or is it a slur? Yeah. It might be. 00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:06.620 Don't tweet him. At least don't mention us. Yeah. 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.440 Michael J. Fox, you are on your own. We will 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.240 not back you up. Anyhow, you guys got 48 hours. 00:10:14.299 --> 00:10:16.679 Tweet at whom you may without our names involved. 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:17.399 Yeah. Bye.