From the unexplained to the mundane. Come join
us on a Journey to the Fringe. Tuning the dial
to exactly 13%, by the way, incredibly hard.
It is. Incredibly hard. We had our top scientists
working on it. We sure did. I think I got a fun
one for you, Taylor. Today, we're going to be
taking a glimpse into the world of Dog Man. And
not the children's novel written by Dave Pilkey.
I know that's why you're getting excited. No,
no, I'm part of the subreddit, so I'm excited
for this episode. Okay, well I actually found
out that this subreddit is bullshit. Oh it is.
They literally just talk about this podcast it
just or it's YouTube or something and they just
post episodes and talk about the episodes So
it's actually not actual dogman sightings They're
just like what one's the scariest dogman sighting
and they're like, oh episode 26 Yeah, that's
why I don't read it that much but I am a member
I am too and I didn't actually pay attention
to it that much before apparently because I didn't
know that's what they're Which is talking about
some YouTube channel, which is completely useless
to me anyhow I don't think Dave Pilkey's inspired
by dog man, right? Like the the cryptid, you
know, I couldn't confirm or deny that We would
have to get him and I think he's probably we
would have the people we've talked about He might
be the hardest outside of the people who are
dead If not bad daddy or Trenma So dog man actually
has a long and rich history and for some reason
Strangely concentrated around the Great Lakes
mainly Michigan and Pennsylvania Crazy, I know
there's some outside of those areas, but there's
a weird concentration of them here as well And
I will have you recall back to Chicago Mothman
who is in the same area funnily enough and I
will also not call you back to any other episode
but I'm sure there are many more weird things
happening around there if they got Mothman and
Dogman yeah it is weird that I don't think there's
any cryptids in the actual lakes themselves no
I've never heard of what there may be I've never
actually looked into it yeah neither have I and
now that I said it we're gonna look like real
fools I bet Probably full of them. Some other
sort of man is in there. See, I think it's just
filled with the remains of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
That's all I know about the Great Lakes. Yeah,
I don't even know that one. I don't even know
who that is. That's the song. Gordon Lightfoot?
No, maybe if I heard it. Maybe I know. I don't
know. So I assume this has to be the Great Lakes
doing some weird shit because Pennsylvania is
not touching much of the Great Lakes But there's
one tiny sliver touching it so I assume That
counts to me. There's a lot of weird stuff going
around those lakes. Someone ought to look into
it. Or we won't be us. Well, maybe in like here
and there we'll touch it. You guys give us enough
money. It's going to take more than David Wilcock,
funny, to get us to look into this more. But
we will if the money's right. It's true. We'll
pretty much do... Well, we'll do a lot of things
for money, probably. We wouldn't know that right
now. We've looked into lycanthropy before. I
learned that word in that episode. I believe
Taylor blessed us with that episode. It is a
long time ago. It was a long time ago. We've
also looked at some dogman -type creatures before,
such as the beast of Bray Road. I think we did
that one? Pretty sure. We've done a whole werewolf
episode, which is basically dogman of type. It
basically is, actually. So... While werewolves
would turn into this, there's no mention with
dogman of them transforming from human to man.
I think they're just overall accepted that that
is their form. So common traits will describe
dogman as a bipedal wolf -like creature with
human -like features. They vary encounter to
encounter. Imagine a giant, somewhat muscular
man, depending on the sighting, depends on how
muscular. I've seen a lot of the Arter's renditions
where they just make him the beefiest ripped
boy that ever did live. Yep, some are like coyote
skinny, you know, like a lot skinnier than that.
Some are super jacked. Some of them standing
seven feet tall with the head of a German Shepherd
or a Timber Wolf. Some of them are slightly dog
-like with like a human nose. Unlike traditional
werewolves, Dogman is not said to transform during
the full moon or shift from human to beast. It's
usually described as a permanent creature, part
man, part wolf, seen in rural forests often at
night. I think the most overwhelmingly weird
thing... that you're going to recognize a dog
man creature from is that it's standing upright
on its hind legs. Completely unnatural. I know
where you would say like, oh, there's a cryptid
bear's walk on their hind feet sometimes. Dogs
don't generally do that. No as a rule and I do
think from my understanding of it is that dogman
seems to have more sentience to it than a werewolf
and that it seems to kind of have like some cognition
of the world and like understanding of humans
There is also in some cases. I don't know that
I talk about it, which is why I say there are
some talking dogs Yes, there are There's some
that report mind speak from Dog man, which I
don't think has generally been associated with
werewolves. I don't know them. Although to be
fair, I bet there's more people that have reported
mind -speaking with their dogs than there are
dog men. You think? Yeah, there's more dog interactions,
so I'm guessing there's more. Mind -speak is
when a thought goes into your head. Do people
generally do that with their dogs? Yeah, you
don't think there's people out there that say
their dog has like mind -shared with them? Maybe,
but that's not like a thought coming in. Maybe
I'm not gonna say no actually I mean I can get
what a dog's trying to say what our dogs have
been trying to say Well, they're more subtle
about it than dog man. They don't actually say
it in my head though They're not like let me
in you son of a bitch you forgot me outside Okay,
their height can be between six to eight feet
sometimes one upright three to four feet at the
shoulder on all fours I don't even know what
that means. I do like that you added sometimes
there We're going to give you a general idea
of what it can be within, but it won't fit that
all the time. Only sometimes. It sure won't.
Eyes are often described as having eye glow or
eye shine. What one's the one that I want? They
light themselves up. Oh, I thought you mean like
that thing when you like shine a flashlight on
them. They don't have that. They actually glow.
Oh, then it's glowing eyes. Glowing eyes. Either
amber or icy blue. a beautiful icy blue head
clearly canine like a german shepherd or wolf
and like i said sometimes it's can you imagine
if it was a pug oh man there's so many different
dog breeds where their head just would not fit
on a human or would fit too well like a bulldog
oh yeah oh a bulldog oh if i saw someone like
that no that's just a human oh you're so cute
it's just a human or a boxer sounds apparently
deep growls or screams resembling a human we
already talked about the mind speak sometimes
there's mind speak telepathy that they're protruding
their thoughts into your head. They move fluidly
on two legs but can drop to all fours. They seem
to be a fairly aggressive cryptid and they're
known to approach or confront humans especially
near fresh kills so dear livestock. So pretend
you asked what is the difference between dogmen
and werewolves which I've already told you a
little bit but I could tell you more. Many dogman
accounts blurb with traditional werewolf stories.
Pennsylvania in particular has historic werewolf
stories like the 1899 Northumberland legend where
a man shoots a wolf but finds a dead human at
the end of a trail. That's just a tragic accident
it sounds like. That sounds like somebody trying
to get away with murder actually. Yeah, it could
be that. You couldn't believe it. I was shooting
a wolf, got down there, guy was a werewolf. Guaranteed.
2011, Bradford County report, a large wolf -like
creature spotted running on two legs along a
road. I'm sorry, if I saw something like that
I would freak the fuck out. And then Linda Godfrey,
who's a cryptid researcher or something like
that, links dogman sightings to the beast of
Bray Road in Wisconsin, which is a very similar
creature. So sightings of dog man go way back.
Pre 1887, there's early lore and folklore about
dog man or wolf. This creature was unknown to
most of the modern world until very late in the
20th century. It is said to have been stalking
the area around the Manistee River since the
days when the Odawa tribes lived there. In 1794,
in Fur Trader Journal, Wexford County, Michigan,
a French fur trader records an encounter near
the Manistee River describing a creature called
a loop guru, French for werewolf. And either
we talked exactly about this sighting or we just
talked about the loop guru. Which is just French
for werewolf. So it is such a better name for
a werewolf Can you imagine screaming that in
like horror running away from something? And
of course you have to have a bottle of wine while
you're yelling that to make it even classier
He noted it was large wolf -like and moved unlike
a normal animal This region was home to the Odawa
tribes and indigenous Algonquin legends mention
similar wolf -human hybrids. There are Native
American connections during this time that go
way back. Algonquin mythology speaks of shapeshifting
beings possibly linked to the dogma. I wonder
if they're not talking about skinwalkers here.
But I don't believe that this is the area where
skinwalkers are existing. So they really shouldn't
be no no so Possibly another creature these beings
were often associated with spiritual imbalance
or taboo breaking behavior Which is what the
skinwalker was associated with as well. So in
1887 coming out of the early lore and folklore
in Wexford County, Michigan. This is the first
modern encounter and this is where two lumberjacks
working in remote forested areas described a
creature with the body of a man and the head
of a dog or a wolf. This being walked upright
on two legs and was estimated at being around
seven feet tall and the lumberjacks were reportedly
so frightened that they fled the area. This sighting
is considered the origin point of the Michigan
dogman name and marked the beginning of modern
dogman folklore. 1887. So I want to jump forward
a bunch. I do find it interesting that this one
doesn't apparently have any like standing in
indigenous culture. What do you mean? It just
like that it only goes back to the 1880s. There's
nothing before that. Well, it's not like the
1880s with the Native American folklore. That
one I don't have the time for. So it could just
be like the beginning of that. Oh, fair enough.
You can just skip over. Yeah. Skipping way ahead
to 1987. Following up the rear of the original
sighting relates, I promise. There is a April
Fool's Day radio broadcast by DJ Steve Cook at
WTCM FM Introverse City that releases a song
we're gonna take a look at because it causes
a huge ripple in the dog man community. I'm gonna
play it and then we'll talk about it. take a
look at it. You know, it was obviously it wasn't
a bear because, you know, he just tried to chew
in around the doors. You could see a dog print,
you know, alongside the windowsill there. And
so it was obviously a dog. They really didn't
spare any expense on this music video. I wonder
if I should be reading this. at a nameless logging
camp in Wexford County where the Manistee River
ran. Eleven lumberjacks near the Garland Swamp
found an animal they thought was a dog. In a
playful mood, they chased it around till it ran
inside a hollow log. A logger named Johnson grabbed
him a stick and poked around inside. Then the
thing let out an unearthly scream and came out.
upright. None of those men ever said very much
about whatever happened then. They just packed
up their belongings and left that night, were
never heard from again. It was ten years later
in 97 when a farmer near Buckley was found. Slumped
over his plow, his heart stopped, there were
dog tracks all around. Seven years past the turn
of the century, they say a crazy old widow had
a dream of dogs that circled her house at night.
They walked like men and screamed. In 1917, a
sheriff who was out of walking found a driverless
wagon and tracks in the dust like wolves had
been a stalking. Near the roadside, a four -horse
team lay dead with their eyes open wide. When
the vet finished up his examination, he said
it looked like they died of fright. In 37, a
schooner captain said several crew members had
reported. A pack of wild dogs row in Bowers Harbor.
His story. was never recorded. Till now. That
was a great rhyme right there. In 57, a man of
the cloth found claw marks on an old church door.
The newspaper said they'd been made by a dog.
He'd had to stood seven foot four. I keep waiting
for the chorus to come, it's just not gonna happen.
He just talks the song. There were cuts around
the doors could have only been made by very sharp
teeth and claws. He didn't wear shoes because
he didn't have feet. He walked on just two paws.
You can only tell a story in this matter of song.
You really can. Screamo, for instance. Well,
he could rap it. Legends are born of stories
told, imagination without restriction. But what
does a legend become when the truth outruns the
fiction? The decades come, the decades go. People
still swear they see. Interlock and read city
back and on. There was something looking back
at me. And somewhere in the Northwoods darkness,
a creature walks upright. And the best advice
you may ever get. I think Kendrick Lamar should
cover this. That would be the best halftime show
in Super Bowl history. I don't know if we can
play that entire song in our episode, we might
lose some people. It's an important part. It
is an important part of Dog Man Lore and history.
I hope that you're still with us. Welcome back.
This was an April Fool's prank, by the way. It
was not real. I assume Steve Cook did that talking
in the video that you just heard. It's called
The Legend and it's referenced mythical creatures
from around North America including what he says
is a made -up dogman. Intended as a satire but
the response to this video when they played it
was overwhelming. And it was a totally unexpected
outcome for Steve, who is a skeptic because dozens
of listeners called and claiming to have seen
this creature. Many reports came from Michigan,
also neighboring states. Steve Cook said he was
shocked at how many people believed or had already
encountered the same creature that he had intended
as a satire. He later added verses to the song
based on real reports and re -recorded it in
1990. and 2007 so I'm not sure what one that
we just listened to right there to be honest
with you 2007 okay one of the phone calls Steve
received was from none other than Robert Fortney
who was fishing one summer day on the Muscagon
River closest to the town of Paris Michigan man
we were unoriginal and naming things when we
got to North America The year was 1938 and Fortney
was 17 years old. Suddenly, Fortney was attacked
by a pack of wild dogs, six, as far as Fortney
could count. The teenager was lucky to have his
rifle handy for some reason. Before any of the
dogs could lunge, he fired one warning shot into
the air and after that all the dogs scattered,
save for one. This black fur canine proved to
be no ordinary dog. However, and as soon as the
shot rang out, it proceeded to stare into Fortney's
eyes with his own piercing blue gaze from a distance
of 10 feet. Then it started grinning. Not succumbing
to fear, Robert Fortney fired one more warning
shot. This time, I think you're really supposed
to fire one. How many bullets did he take? Because
I feel like you got to play that carefully. this
time causing the maybe werewolf to run off. However,
instead of skedaddling on all fours, this would
-be werewolf stood up to around six feet tall
before running away on two legs. And that was
Robert Fortney. Moving on, sightings continue
across the Midwest and beyond. In the 1950s to
60s, this is one of the reports of upright canine
creatures in Allegan County, Cross Village, and
Manistee, which were often linked with livestock
disappearances or deer kills. The behavior was
described as territorial and sometimes aggressive.
1993 through 1994 Ottawa County Grand Haven a
man known only as Ben reported three separate
sightings. One in December 1993 involved the
dog man standing on his hind legs behind a car
and it fled only after Ben screamed. Another
1994 sighting involved a driver hitting what
he thought was a deer. When he checked, the body
was gone. Only gray fur was left in the grill.
I mean, that is not a dog man sighting. How did
it even make this into my notes? And what episode
is complete without a skinwalker ranch reference?
This is not anywhere near the Great Lakes, which
is the Uinta Basin. It was a police officer,
I believe, in Skinwalker Ranch that had the sighting
of two dogmen in trench coats smoking cigarettes
on the side of the road. Yeah, I think so. One
of my favorite sightings of dogmen ever to be
recorded and one of my favorite encounters in
the book. So there was a video that was released
of a dog man and this is referred to as the Gable
film that came out in 2007. This supposed vintage
8mm footage showing a dog man attacking someone
gained massive attention on YouTube and paranormal
sites. followed by gable film part two showing
a police investigation both were hoaxes and were
featured on monster quest linda godfrey who i
mentioned earlier in this episode she is like
a cryptid hunter or something who has worked
on the Beast of Brave Road. She acknowledges
the hoaxes of Dogman and she also defends the
credibility of many eyewitnesses because there
are a ton of people who have had sightings of
Dogman and she does suggest that there is consistency
across independent reports. Now what I want to
end this episode with is somebody who spends
a lot of time investigating dogman encounters
in and around this area but not specific to this
area there just seems to be a pattern is somebody
who we love long strickler of phantoms and monsters
he does not just cover chicago mothman they also
follow dogman so there's some good news for your
day let's read some encounters i didn't do reddit
reddit was disappointing yeah reddit really is
disappointing when it comes to dogman yeah so
i'm gonna read these ones which i find much more
credible than reddit and anyway, Reddit encounters
are usually just entertaining. In August 2015
the woman was standing inside her home looking
out at a bright full or close to full moon when
she saw a large canine looking creature standing
at the edge of a pond approximately 25 yards
distance. It was just staring at the pond. It
was upright and had a short snout and short pointed
ears. It had what appeared to be narrow flat
feet. The only movement noticed was the tail
swishing back and forth. She watched it for 10
minutes and it did not move as it continued to
stare into the pond on the property which has
apple orchards and is close to the state game
lands 33 and 176. The creature was standing sideways
to her so she only saw a side profile. Her husband
also advised their one -year -old bulldog went
out the next day and squirted all tires on their
vehicles to mark his territory. He's never done
that. ever. She was sure the full moon was at
the end of the month but didn't remember the
date. A moon phase check for August 2015 revealed
full moon on August 29 and 30 August. She estimates
the height of the creature to be 8 feet. Note
the only other description of a short snout creature
was on November 6, 2014 report the two dog incident
at SGL 331. Next one is a South Central Pennsylvania
waste hauler recently observed an unknown cow
-sized hyena -like cryptid at approximately 3
a .m. Those are weird descriptors to put together.
I know and that's why I said when I was going
through the description this is generally what
you're gonna hear described but then you get
into stuff especially with Lon Strickler. We
even had some super weird Mothman encounters
that I feel like you wouldn't have seen anywhere
else because people collect evidence to fit what
they want to, but this obviously doesn't fit
exactly what I was saying with Dogman. I was
just gonna call him Bigfoot. Yeah, hyena is not
a dog and like a cow is not a man. Yeah, and
a dire wolf is not a, what was it again? A wolf.
A wolf, right. But dogs come in all shapes and
sizes and for breeds of creature. Including hyena.
Okay during his route near Shippensburg, Pennsylvania
The following account was recently sent to me
around 3 a .m. On July 14 2020 I have my first
close cryptid sighting I'm writing to you in
the community to see if anyone else had seen
or heard anything the likes of what I saw today
Can I just interrupt because I feel like if you
know someone and they come up to you and they're
like Taylor I had my first cryptid encounter
yeah you buy them a cake and like congratulations
on your first cryptid encounter i don't know
you say the first one's never easy it gets better
from here yeah tell me everything because i need
to put it on my vlog yes yeah now i'm a waste
hauler in brackets trash man and brad i start
my days very early every day. So the majority
of my work day takes place in the wee hours of
the day. I live in South Central Pennsylvania
and have resided there nearly my whole life.
My place of employment is in the college town
of Shippensburg. My job sits on an outlying area
of Shippensburg. A lot of these areas are surrounded
by vast farmlands and open fields. Well, this
morning while traveling to the start of my route,
I turned down one of the many roads surrounded
by It was a half crescent moon, so there was
plenty of light to see in the darkness. As I
rounded my turn, I saw what looked like a cow
lying in an open field. But this field had no
fences or wire to keep livestock in. And it was
only one. I found this very odd as I'm looking
at the broad shoulders of what I thought was
a ca - So I broke out my high -power mag light
to brighten up what I was looking at. What is
a mag light? I don't know. Maybe it's a flashlight.
Yeah, it's a big flashlight. One with a big candle.
Nice, okay. It rose up from the ground in a slow,
lumbering, and purposeful action. As it came
up on all fours, the creature stood about five
to six feet at its shoulder blades? That's taller
than I am. I'm my truck, I'm elevated, and I
sit about that high from the ground. The creature
was about 30 feet from me, and I know if I stood
toe to toe with it, its head would be taller
than I, and I'm six foot. Now, at this moment,
the back of this creature is still facing me.
It then turned its head into my light and the
lens flare off its eyes were a yellow -green
color, and eyes facing forward. This was a predatory
creature, not a damn cow. At that moment, heat
and cold wash over my body and I feel real genuine
life -threatening fear takeover. I don't move.
Sitting in the middle of the road knowing I'm
low on the pecking order of the food train at
this moment. It continues to measure me for what
felt forever and it suddenly turned its head
and tore off faster than I could know. My pathetic
guess is about 30 to 40 miles per hour as it
darted away and after all this the only thing
I could think was that it was some form of giant
hyena the most terrifying real -life creature
I've ever witnessed and it was gone so fast it's
been on my mind all day and I had to share this
experience I always listen to your show or others
and hear about people in their sightings feeling
away wishing for my experience and as of this
morning I really wish I didn't get my turn not
like that not feeling so vulnerable like it was
starting at its next meal I hope there are others
that may have seen or heard what I saw. That
light can be shed on the topic, especially my
area. I work in that darkness all the time. Now
I'm looking over my shoulder. Interesting that
he is a listener of the podcast and he knew exactly
where to report it. Yeah, I wonder how many of
them are actually listeners. From my experience
reading the account, there's very little of them.
Yeah, I've never had one like put it in there
that they reported it that day though, because
they knew exactly. where to report it yeah which
is pretty strange let's just pick one at random
because i didn't pick another one so let's go
oh i got another massive hyena one oh nice yeah
let's do another or do you want to do gruesome
cryptid k9 yeah i better do that one so we know
that that massive hyena is probably on the loose
in and around that area so you can know nothing
about it Nope. For the past several weeks, I've
been referring to a cryptic K -9 case that was
submitted to me by the witness MH. Most of the
particulars are included in the witness written
report the phantoms and monsters 14 research
team and i have talked to the witness on numerous
occasions quote this sighting happened on 4 30
22 birdsboro pennsylvania in the birdsboro preserve
this area is just north of french creek state
park and the forests intersect with one another
there are roughly 15 to 20 square miles of dense
natural woodlands in this area it is one of the
largest forested areas in southeastern It was
a crystal clear warm spring day and my 12 year
old daughter wanted to learn trout fishing. Interesting.
We decided to go up to Hay Creek which runs for
13 miles through French Creek State Park and
through the Byrdsboro Preserve. We parked at
the north end of the preserve on old route 82
now called Hay Creek Road. We hiked up into the
old road past the still active larger quarry
and continued up about a half mile past it. We
found a spot where she could practice waiting
in the stream in a safe shallow area for the
stream with semi -fast water. There were a lot
of people walking, hiking, and horseback riding
that day and not a cloud in the sky. We fished
the spot for about two hours or so slowly moving
back down the stream. At one point while I was
sitting on the bank enjoying the stream and nature
while my daughter was fishing I heard a loud
crash like a tree was falling over behind us.
It was a bit strange because I didn't hear any
chainsaws. Funny that he that's the only way
trees come down. It's very natural. Yeah And
this sounded like a huge tree was coming down
It was only a few hundred feet behind us and
it was super loud being an avid stream Outdoorsman
for three plus decades, you know when things
seem out of place This was totally different
from a tree falling over and then silence But
to him it just seemed like he thought it sounded
exactly like a tree falling over This went on
for about two minutes and I stood up and looked
around. in the direction the sound was coming
from but saw nothing I said to myself that was
a bit strange and it just stopped about 30 minutes
later I heard the same thing and again this went
on for two minutes again now I'm puzzled and
I was like what the hell is going on this is
not normal I said to my daughter let's start
heading back down the stream and find another
spot I still did not see anything unusual but
was on alert I thought to myself it could be
deer up in the back across the road but this
sounded. That sentence does not make a lot of
sense. Then I heard a giant crashing through
the woods as it was very loud. This time it was
definitely closer to us. We walked about 200
yards down the trail and we started hearing this
again and it was even closer than the past two
times. We stopped and looked up towards the quarry
in the direction of the sound but still saw nothing.
I assume it's crashing of branches? I said we
will cross the stream and fish down around the
bend. The spot where you cross the stream is
about 30 feet wide and very slippery. We took
it slow because the water was a bit high for
my daughter. We were about halfway across and
all hell broke loose with the sound of tree branches
breaking again. It took us about 90 seconds to
cross the stream and I was holding her hand to
help her. The whole time the sound is still going
on and I'm looking back but see nothing because
we're about 20 feet below the quarry where the
old bridge was. Where we cross the stream there's
about a six to seven foot beam to step up to
the road level. I get up first and help my daughter
get up with my hand when I see something moving
in the distance out of my peripheral vision.
I turn and look and see nothing at first. Then
in the distance where the sound is coming from,
I walk onto a 40 foot pine tree at the top of
the quarry swaying violently side to side at
least five feet each way. I pointed to my daughter
and said, holy crap, what the hell is that? Look,
The next 40 to 50 seconds would change my life
forever. You were watching the pine tree shake
for about 10 to 15 seconds. Then I saw what I
thought was an arm reaching out of the tree.
I grabbed a bird. It grabbed, it grabbed a bird.
which I think was a turkey buzzard. All of a
sudden this thing jumps from the pine tree to
a big oak tree about 10 feet away and starts
climbing on the outside of the canopy. It pivoted
around somewhat like a spider on the top of the
canopy and disappears into the branches of this
large oak tree. Keep in mind the leaves are just
starting to bud on the tree and we can see movements
in the tree branches. Yeah, you should be able
to see pretty well in an oak tree if there's
no leaves on it. This is about 200 to 300 feet
away. The whole time branches are breaking very
large branches about two inches thick. This goes
on for about ten or more seconds and then this
thing jumps out of the tree. Now these trees
are at least 40 feet high. Plus it falls another
15 to 20 feet onto a 60 degree incline of rocks.
So about 60 or so feet this thing fell. I thought
it was dead. I'll never forget the sound of the
impact. This thing hit super hard and rocks started
flying down the side of this quarry inclined
at least 10 feet. When it fell out of the tree,
this creature landed on all fours. This thing
is lying flat and is a bit dazzled or winded.
Then this thing stands up bipedally on its two
hind legs and is about 10 to 12 feet in height.
I'm thinking that this thing should be dead.
I'm thinking bear, mountain lion, big push. So
this thing stands up and then goes back on all
fours and jumps like a toad or a frog does and
then clears 20 feet. Of ground in total not even
trying as well as jumps in height about eight
to ten feet in one jump It was on all fours again
flat like a frog and then it dropped this bird
that it had in its left hand keep in mind this
thing landed facing away from us on the right
side of us with its back to us and running away
parallel to our left and then reaches out with
its left hand and grabs the bird and pulls it
back into its chest the arms on this thing are
at least six feet plus in length it has human
-like hands and legs the hands have at least
two to three inch claws on the fingers as well
as are you thinking monkey a little bit isn't
quick out to the head yeah as it grabbed a Brit
I feel like to this there has to be as it grabbed
the bird and turned its head to the side and
I saw the side of the head and face this thing
was bald from the neck up it had a canine style
snout or nose with an upper jaw with an overhang
with very long upper teeth like fangs on a werewolf
no joke about it and it was hairless you see
thing when it stood up from heel to hip was six
to seven feet in height and from hip to shoulder
was another three feet from heel to top of its
head was 10 to 13 feet easy and it was mostly
a leg too the head was like a human's head but
had pointed ears like a dog's butt not on top
of the head. It had ears where a human has them,
but longer and pointed. It had fur like a deer
in length, but very short, brown, gray and black.
The skin was gray in color. This creature was
very skinny though, like it was starving or not
healthy. Very skinny except the forearms and
its legs were very toned. It did not have a tail.
This thing stands up again bipedally and takes
a step. like a track runner jumping a hurdle
and clears a 15 foot rock face again easily six
to seven feet in height and about 15 feet in
length it took another five to six steps and
went crashing through the woods and we never
saw it again i stood there in total disbelief
and i was trying to process what the hell this
thing was i'm a no fear kind of guy and this
thing scared the living crap out of me I'm standing
there completely frozen with fear, trying to
make sense of what the hell just happened. I
almost lost myself with fear because I... ever
had that type of fear ever and I had to talk
myself out of it. After about two minutes of
sheer confusion I snapped out of the fear factor
and I was now in adrenaline survival mode. My
number one concern was my daughter and us getting
out of there alive because this thing ran the
same way we had to walk to reach my car. Keep
in mind. Yeah, that would be awkward. Yeah, this
is a busy day with people out from being cooped
up all winter. Whatever this thing is violent
and super strong to the point the right thing
to do is warn people of this. I'll tell you this
this thing makes a full -grown tiger look like
a mouse and that is no joke My daughter was confused
about what had happened. I was very concerned
for her safety as we were slowly walking back
I actually started to call 9 -1 -1 But never
did because no one would believe me and I think
I was mad out of my mind I saw a few people on
the way back and asked them if they had seen
a big animal come down this way And they all
said no the kids said they saw it right? I can't
actually remember that She just says, let's just
finish this and see, because I mean, he says
that she saw it. A message for all the people
out there, one thing I want to say is this, I
have been in a lot of national parks and state
forests and never once seen anything like this
creature. Take everything I thought I knew about
wilderness and it's right out the window to start
over. I'm just gonna send this to you. You can
take a look at the dude. Oh yeah. See, that one
has two short of legs. He said it was mostly
legs, like it was... What, six to seven feet
to the hip and then three feet of torso? There's
actually another one. Okay, that seems more right.
Yeah, that's the other one. I wonder what all
the dark marks are. I don't know! He didn't really
mention it, did he? No. Hats off to Lon and all
you people who bring these cryptids to the masses.
These things are a hundred thousand million...
This is just a thousand percent real and they
are in your backyard not in some national parks
or some extreme remote area They are very close
to us. So please be mindful of your surroundings
I'll never step in the woods without a firearm
ever again This has changed my life and I'm on
an amazing journey find serious answers and for
all of you who have been Seeing crazy creatures
and struggle with it. You're not alone. Welcome
to the club of no return I don't like that that
club is called no return Keep an open mind and
talk to good people who can help you. I mean,
there is kind of a return. You just don't talk
about it, right? That seems like the obvious
answer. Yeah, you could just bury it deep down
inside and never talk about it again. Yeah, like
a good normal human in this society. Yeah, but
we do love to hear about these, so maybe don't
keep it in. You can always tell us and then we'll
get you a cake. Yeah, and then we'll tell you
better from here. The second one is supposed
to be much more enjoyable. Exactly. But alas,
that is the end of the Dogman encounter episode.
Any closing thoughts? I think there is more to
the Dogman community than just that. I know there's
a few people who stake their entire career in
this area. So I do think this is not going to
be our only time going to the Dogman well. No,
definitely not. And I didn't talk about anybody
other than that one girl. that talks about the
beast on Bray Road. Well, and Stephen Cook, the
biggest of the researchers, of course. Well,
he... He wasn't a researcher, of course. He just
made an April Fool's prank. And then fixed it
by researching and writing the song. He did fix
the song, so I guess he is technically a researcher.
But yeah, while you were reading some of those
stories, I quickly went on Coast to Coast AM
to see who their dogma people are. And it appears
they have a man by the name of Paul Sinclair
as their go -to guy. Oh, interesting. I haven't
even heard of this guy, so... He does other things
too, but he's talked on there about Dogman. I'm
a big fan of Dogman, kind of like him. And one
thing I don't think really came up in this episode,
but I've heard before, at least when we used
to listen to Coast to Coast AM when we were much
younger, is I always had Dogman associated with
like graveyards for some reason. And I don't
know if that's actually anything that came up.
But yeah, for some reason I remember on old Coast
to Coast AM episodes when they talked about it,
he was associated with graveyards and smoking.
See, I don't remember that. For some reason,
the smoking does stand out. Yes. Graveyards?
No, and it didn't come up. So I don't know. Maybe
there's room for a future episode of People Who
Talk About Dog Man? Yeah. Perhaps. But in any
event, this is a tricky one to do your own research
on because Dogman is also closely associated
with the furry and rule 34 community, so just
beware when you're doing your research on Google.
And on that note, I have been Taylor here with
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