From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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to Drink to the Fringe. Certainly not the worst
decision of your week. I'm sure of it, and if
it is, well then I would call that a pretty good
week. We are your optimistic podcast host Taylor
and Chelsea here today listening through or talking
through a Chelsea episode depending on which
one of us you are in the situation Okay Okay,
okay, just kidding I threw my voice pretty good
there. I know I do a pretty good Taylor Today
I'm gonna talk to you Taylor about UAPs and not
just any UAPs a very specific kind of UAP that
is widely spotted all over the place. Want to
take a guess? First I really can't wait for that
episode where it's just any UAP that we're doing
it. We're gonna be looking out the window for
the next two hours. Whatever shows up we're talking
about That one is unidentified for now Is it
the black triangle it is Okay, I was trying to
think back if we've done that one or not because
that's probably the most famous of them I didn't
actually check that we haven't done it yet. Yeah
triangle shape, not to be confused with pyramid
shaped UAP, which are two totally different things,
apparently. And like Taylor just said, it has
to be one of the most popular UAP shapes. There's
so many shapes that are to be had by UAPs, but
whoever the hell is driving these things, the
clear choice is triangle. It's the strongest
shape, isn't it? I mean, it depends on what you're
talking about exactly, but sure. I would also
add if you're gonna have a mass sighting, it
really seems like triangle shape is the most
likely you're gonna see. Yeah. Probably. Not
that I've counted them up or anything like that.
It just kind of feels like that. But yeah, triangles
are pretty strong. They are? Okay, good. I'm
just gonna clarify again because I know it's
confusing. I would consider these more of a boomerang
shape. Triangle in case you were also picturing
a pyramid in your head. I'm not gonna let it
go. I Was sure for the longest time that these
UAPs were pyramid shaped be fair We don't really
know what shape they are Because triangle is
a two -dimensional shape and I'm fairly certain
these are not two -dimensional crafts True, you
know, it is triangle again above them and therefore
pyramid. We just don't yeah, I haven't ever heard
it actually now that you're saying it described
as a three -dimensional shape because i don't
think anybody's see well maybe they're seeing
them from another angle nope yeah they're usually
in the sky and their people are on the ground
that you hear these stories from yeah but we
did have an episode where it came to like that
i was picturing pyramids and they are not pyramids
just in case anyone has the same issue that i
have mentally So there are so many encounters
of these triangle shaped craft often described
as dark in color covering or moving slowly and
eerily silently and Reaching sizes larger than
a football field and sometimes they're dotted
with lights accentuating the triangle boomerang
shape I'm actually going to do this episode a
little bit backwards. Do you think that's how
the triangle spacecraft salesman sells it? They
add the extra lights because it accentuates the
sleek triangle. It accentuates the shape because
that's what you want in your secret craft. Yeah,
it's the most popular design and this is really
gonna accentuate that shape of the boomerang
Yeah, yeah No, and really people are gonna be
confused about what shape it is because you're
gonna see it at night And you're really is it
fully a triangle is a boomerang. I don't know.
Is it a flying? Is it yeast? Yeah, that's why
you need these accentuating lights for the sexiness
of the crap These upsells sell themselves And
quiet versus all the honking you hear with a
V of geese. That upgrade isn't as popular. Or
it's too popular and the geese got it all. As
I was saying, I'm gonna start with some of the
most popular sightings that you may have heard
about the Black Triangles. First up we have the
1980s Hudson Valley sightings. During the 1980s
there are several hundred people claimed to have
witnessed UAPs flying over or near to the Hudson
River in New York State. The craft was often
said to move slowly and silently, as is very
common, like I said. and sometimes it would hover
for extended periods of time before moving away.
Many sightings were accompanied by reports of
strange electromagnetic effects like car engine
stalling and radio interference. Despite the
large number of witnesses, the sightings were
never conclusively explained and various theories
emerged. Some suggested the possibility of military
exercises, while others speculated about UFOs
or experimental aircraft. Hudson Valley sightings
remain one of the most famous and well -documented
UFO phenomena in the United States. And I'm pretty
sure we did do an episode on this one, I think.
I think we did, yes. Don't hold me to it. Moving
on, 1989 to 1992 is the Belgian UAP wave. The
Belgian UFO wave began in November 1989. The
events of the 29th of November were documented
by over 30 different groups of witnesses and
three separate groups of police officers. All
of the reports related to a large object flying
at a low altitude. The craft was flat and triangular
with lights underneath. The giant craft did not
make a sound as it slowly moved across the landscape
of Belgium. Most witnesses reported that the
objects were silent. The Belgian UFO wave peaked
with the events on the night of March 30, 1990.
On that night, one unknown object was tracked
on radar and two Belgian Air Force F -16s were
sent to investigate with neither pilot reporting
seeing the object. No reports were received from
the public on the date, but over the next two
weeks, reports from 143 people who claimed to
have witnessed the object were received, all
of them after the event. Over the ensuing months,
many others claim to have witnessed these events
as well. This is definitely entire episode worthy,
but you're just getting a brief glimpse at it
here. These major sightings of black triangle
UFOs. We could have done more work, but we choose
not to. And you all know that if you've been
here long enough, we give you the gist. Exactly.
A little bit more. And plus the last one we did
have another episode on and the next one that
I'm gonna read now does have another episode
on it so it's not like we may not cover one of
these in a future episode. I'm sure you don't
have an answer. It's just a brief glimpse. i'm
sure you don't have an answer for this but i
would just be curious if the belgian wave extended
past the borders of belgium anywhere i'm gonna
answer no oh because like even one of your stories
is on the german border so like i know I'm assuming
the majority of them just based on this and this
is my assumption took place within Belgium's
confines Yeah, but it's easy enough to generalize
it and just say it's the Belgian wave Hey, it's
not like the Belgian some of Germany, but only
that one time and a little bit in France But
only that one time which is super strange as
well because it's in Europe So it's such a small
area of land as well. So yeah It is coming from
Belgium on this one, and I'm gonna stick with
that. And on to the next one we've covered in
an episode, as I alluded to, the 1997 Phoenix
Light, which was a widely reported appearance
of black triangles involved in the Phoenix Light.
Yes, I know that. during which multiple unidentified
objects were observed near Phoenix, Arizona,
and videotaped by both the local media and residents
beginning on Thursday, March 13, 1997. The objects,
or lights, which appeared to be grouped in a
large V -formation that lingered for several
minutes. Some residents reported one of the black
triangles to be over a mile wide, and then it
drifted slowly over their house, blocking out
the night sky stars. An official report from
the U .S. Air Force concluded that the military
had been locally testing aircraft launch flares
during that period. And it was also witnessed
by Kurt Russell. Very important. Yes, which we
have had an episode on in the past. Kurt Russell.
Yeah. Which brings me to the next one. A 2000
millennium Southern Illinois incident. The St.
Clair Triangle. The UFO over Illinois. The Southern
Illinois UFO or Highland Illinois UFO sighting
occurred on January 5th, 2000 over the towns
of Highland, Upo, Lebanon, Shiloh, Summerfield,
Milstead, and O 'Fallon, Illinois. See, this
is the problem you get when you try to be overly
encompassing is you get a really hard to name
blip. Too many options on this. Yeah, like just
go with Belgium. Just call it the Belgian one
because I saw it first. Yeah. Beginning shortly
after 4am, in the early hours of January 5th,
2000, residents and on -duty police officers
in St. Clair County, Illinois witnessed a prolonged
UAP encounter. object described as triangular
and about the size of a football field, they're
all described as the size of a football field.
Are we talking the same football field? I guess
technically they're about the same size. Never
mind. Yeah. Now that I'm thinking about it. Okay.
Are we are we including like the track around
a football field and the stadium seats or just
like it's about a hundred ish meters yards? I
feel like the people who are saying that aren't
thinking about that. So maybe. I don't know if
somebody says it's as big as a football field.
I don't know. Are they just talking about the
field? Would you just picture a field? No, but
I don't think they're being that specific about
it, to be honest. And I'm not, if I saw something
like that, I'd be like, holy shit, that's huge.
It's the size of a football field. And I wouldn't
actually know by eyeing something if it was actually
the size of a football field, I feel like. In
my mind, you really can't, because this is something
in the sky, so you don't really have any way
of, oh, what's it called? Referencing, a reference
point for how big it is, or how far away it is.
so I don't unless these people are good at it
yeah I feel like it might just be a turn of phrase
being that they saw something really big and
they want to compare it to something really big
because like I see I see the moon in the sky
and the only reason I know it's bigger than a
football field I know it's bigger than a football
field because I have a reference point to how
far away it is, but I do have to trust a lot
of other people that it's that big. And at the
same time, like I'm looking at the moon, I wouldn't
say that it's as big as a football field. I wonder
how many people would describe it to someone.
I would be like, if you held a loony up into
the sky, it's like that. Oh, you've just confused
so many of our listeners. It's as big as a toony,
Chelsea, come on. Much easier to get reference
and I've never heard this talked about actually
and when somebody's saying something as big as
a football field So you bring up a good point.
Yeah, and it might just be people trying to think
of something big to say it was huge You know
what? It could have just been John keel was the
first one to do the investigations and that was
his opening question So was it as big as a football?
Yes, and now everybody says it didn't have legs
that went on for miles Was it silent like somebody
masturbating on the other end of the phone line?
Oh no, he specifically says not like, but yeah.
What would you, if you saw something huge in
the sky, what else could you compare it to? Hey,
that's his biggest super store. Yeah, I don't
know car lengths. You see planes in the sky So
maybe you could compare it to a plane, but that's
not as big I wouldn't say a plane's as big as
a football field Like what could be I don't think
size that that's big. Well to two planes, Chelsea
Two planes, but at the same time I'm not gonna
be like wow, that's the size of seven play Yeah,
there's a point where you got to switch it off
because you gotta switch it to something bigger
unless Yeah, but that's how... That's the size
of like a Walmart. But at the same time, like
none of those things are triangle shaped that
you're trying to compare it to. Super stores,
Walmarts, football fields. I don't think we have
any triangle sporting fields. No. So that's why
they're going with football field. I'm just trying
to think of what else, if not football field,
would I compare this to? Baseball diamond? Baseball
diamond. OK. Because that's half of a... Hockey
rink? That's not going to help us in any way.
Okay. Also, yeah, it's only about 100 feet or
110 feet or whatever. It's also like a football
field. Okay, okay. Where the fuck am I? Well,
yeah, you are right. It's hard to have reference
points in this. Yeah, I feel like when we actually
say it, that it's just something huge and we
have no other reference. it's as big as a football
what if it wasn't what if it was smaller than
a football field what would you use as a reference
point or would you just say it is smaller than
a football field see i feel like if it's smaller
then you would use an airplane maybe an elephant
maybe but how many elephants until you have to
convert it to an airplane or football How many
airplanes until you gotta start using football
fields? It's way too technical at this point.
I don't fucking know. I've never seen one. I've
never needed to measure something in the sky.
I have no reference. I'm just gonna wait for
John keel to tell me how to feel. He's dead.
You're never gonna know. Well, not with the AI
technology we have now. Oh, no, he's gonna come
back to interview witnesses. It's gonna be so
sexist. He's gonna be pissed with the way society
works. I know, but he's gonna fit right in. What's
this me too thing? Okay, okay, football field.
That's where I got to. It also moves slowly and
silently over the area. One of the first witnesses,
66 year old Melvern Noel, saw a bright light
that appeared to be a big house floating in the
air with windows visible on the craft. There
we go, the mouse. Noel observed the object for
about five minutes before it disappeared. He
reported the sighting to the Highland Police,
who passed the information to other officers,
including Officer Ed Barton. The sighting is
part of a larger pattern of triangle UFO reports,
which have sparked ongoing speculation about
whether these objects are extraterrestrial craft
or top -secret military technology. The Illinois
UFO incident remains a point of interest for
UFO enthusiasts. and investigators and has been
featured on multiple tv shows now that audiobook
for the mothman prophecies i didn't expect that
it would forever change you have such an impact
2004 to 2006 tinley park lights three lights
hovered in a triangular formation oh This is
not a triangle UFO though. It's a very abstract
triangle so far triangular formation received
by multiple witnesses in Tinley Park and Oak
Forest, Illinois another Illinois Why isn't this
in the Illinois one that and then the question
really has to be asked now? Are they hitting
moth people? Yeah, like there's a lot of things
going on in the sky there, but Are they maybe
moth people? Because UFO sightings and moth people
go hand in hand, as we've seen in Illinois sightings
at least. And the moth man brought the seeds,
now that I think about it. They just appear in
the same book. That would be a big moth person.
It would be. That would be terrifying. And also
weirdly triangular lights. On August 24, 2004,
two months later on October 31, 2004, again on
October 1, 2005, and again on October 31, 2006,
witnesses photographed the lights and captured
them on video. According to some ufologists,
video evidence suggests the lights kept geometrical
shape and moved as if they were attached through
a dark object. The incident was examined on Dateline
NBC episode on May 18, 2008. if I've heard about
that one or not. I'm not sure. I haven't at all.
But to be fair, I hadn't heard of the other Illinois
one either. No, neither. The other ones too,
but they're famous enough to make it into these
notes. 2008, Stephenville, Texas. This sighting
occurred in January 2008 in Stephenville, Texas.
But who made the notes for this? Geez. Enumerous
residents reported seeing strange lights in the
sky. Witnesses described the lights as large,
bright and moving erratically, some even stating
they appeared to be a part of a large craft.
The lights were observed for several minutes
and some witnesses claimed to have seen a large,
silent triangular or cigar -shaped object. Some
even claimed the occupants inside were mantis
beings. The US military later acknowledged the
presence of fighter jets in the area at the time
but denied any connection to the sightings. The
incident gained widespread media attention, fueling
speculation about UFOs and government coverups.
So those are just some of the more famous sightings
that included black triangles. And while the
ones I mentioned are more modern, these sightings
go back centuries to my surprise, and maybe yours.
that's why I'm sharing it with you. We have very
good witness testimony going back to the late
20s even later. I couldn't find documentation
for the ones that I found even going back into
like the 1500s. So I have some from the 20s here
or maybe I don't, I don't know. They only wrote
the episode. These sightings all describe basically
the same thing as I just went through these more
modern -day sightings with you with the same
type of triangular craft demonstrating the same
characteristics and the coming of the internet
would also Contribute to the spreading of these
ones versus the ones that go further back. Oh
now I'm gonna go over some less popular ones
I guess that maybe you haven't heard of because
they're going back a little further than these
more mass sightings yeah September 1960 there
was basically identical in description to the
Belgian craft and the Belgian craft are basically
identical to the other ones it was a standard
triangle ufo with points of life on each tip
and revolving red light at the center just like
the Belgian craft was silent hovered and also
zipped off at high speed and it was witnessed
by an air force vet his family his neighbors
and a police officer i'm gonna read to you the
actual newspaper article here if i can zoom in
on it to actually read it yep okay triangle that
flies sighted along shore september 17 1960 richard
Earton has come up with a new flying saucer angle,
a triangle that flies. He reports having seen
a flying triangle in the shoreline area two weeks
ago. Is that the story? No, I'm just trying to
read the last name. Earton, who lives at 34 Grove
Road. I love it when they put the addresses in
the newspaper here. said he and his wife first
noticed it about 11 30 p .m. while they were
driving on Something number one in Westbrook
was hovering 80 feet or so above the cottages
along the oceanfront when it moved noiselessly
and lightning fast, traveled in the direction
of its apex when going upward and in the direction
of its sides when moving sideways. What the fuck
is he talking about? In other words, the view
of the moving triangle was the same as that of
an equilateral... Equilateral triangle? Equilateral
or Isosceles? If I zoom in it gets all blurry.
Scaling triangle? As it would appear drawn in
two dimensions on a sheet of paper. Scaling triangle
a thing? I'm trying to - is an air force veteran
said the oh it is scaling triangle there you
go are all those people who would picture exactly
all sides are unequal and all angles have different
measures okay that's a that's really weird it
still doesn't make sense that is really weird
yeah so he's a air force veteran he said the
mysterious object appeared to be about the about
the axle of a fighter aircraft or possibly a
bit bigger At two points of the triangle were
white lights and at the apex a blue light shone.
In the middle of the solid figure a red light
flashed much like the light stop of a police
cruiser. Anticipating ridicule and disbelief,
Irton withheld reporting the strange sight of
Fortnite, but he got such a good look at it that
his curiosity eventually got the better of him.
He notified state police. Don't want the publicity,
he says. I'm just dying to know what it was that
I saw. An incline to the belief that it was a
new type of aircraft the government is testing.
Irton's father and several neighbours at the
shore also reported seeing the object, though
not at so close. close a distance. But one minute
it was hovering over the beach and the next moment
it had zoomed up so high it appeared to be one
of the stars." He said. And it never made a sound.
Ayrton had the object in his binoculars for a
good half an hour. It was weird, he says. I don't
mind telling you, my wife was scared. He has
heard nothing from the official sources as to
what the object was. A belief indicated that
he received reports of other sightings, he said.
And that was a very difficult to read news article
about that sighting. Well, in any event, it will
sound better in the edits. It really will. It's
going to sound so professional. June 18, 1950,
similar triangle sighting to the previous encounter,
but it didn't have the light on each tip. Can
I just make a prediction on this one? Yes. John
Keel is showing up and he's saying that it's
the size of a football field. Oh my god. Wouldn't
that be so funny if he showed up? Okay, here
we have a crossword puzzle that I actually would
be loving to do. This is breeds of canines, and
there's the picture of a puppy in the middle
of the crossword. Puppy's not a breed, Chelsea.
Yes, it is. Picked a breed of canine. Well, this
blank was developed in Mexico. Oh, great. This
dog. Who's going to save it? Okay, anyhow, I
feel like there's something else we should be
talking about. Okay, okay, I was distracted by
the puppy in the middle of a crossword flying
saucer at Roscoe maneuvers and then speeds Roscoe
Roscoe's first flying saucer was spotted recently
June 8th about 3 p .m. their first flying saucer
at WC Kelly at his farm five miles southeast
of here according to a report in the Roscoe Times
quote Kelly was plowing and was prompted to look
upwards by hearing an airplane passing over end
quote the Times reported quote he saw the plane
flying above the clouds but he also saw a strange
triangular object under the clouds it was tur
- burning and maneuvering in a remarkable manner.
The airplane passed on out of hearing but the
triangular object remained and continued its
maneuvering without making any noise at all.
Kelly said it appeared to be 10 feet or larger
in diameter and its edges looked to be aluminum.
It's like I could just reach out and crinkle
it up. Yeah. This thing's so advanced, like the
aluminum of its day. It kind of reminds me that
it came up in Behind the Bastards on Napoleon
III, that he was trying to be super fancy, so
he didn't get cutlery made of gold and silver.
His was made of aluminum, because at the time
aluminum was incredibly rare. so time really
played him for the fool it really did because
that's super shitty after several maneuvers objects
suddenly took off in a southeasterly direction
at a tremendous burst of speed estimated by kelly
to be several times speed of sound was go how
would he estimate that It disappeared from sight
in about four seconds, he said. He only said
the object definitely was operated by some form
of power, that it was highly maneuverable, and
was not any form of air. It wasn't just window
cystic. Yeah. He could not estimate its height
accurately. Well, I mean, I couldn't say he estimated
any of that accurately. That's not true. He estimated
aluminum. visible. Although flying saucers have
been reported from many other places, this was
the first glimpse reported at any raw skin of
the strange objects which many people are now
beginning to believe are some sort of secret
weapon of the United States. Wow, that left a
lot to be imagined. Well, it does line up with
like every sighting outside of that one Belgian
flap is in the US. Yeah, it does, but he really
took a lot of educated And it goes to show what
you've been saying like you can't really guess
without having a reference point frame or reference
the next one I'm gonna share with you is a new
segment on a massive baseball home plate -shaped
craft flying around in Bridgewater, Massachusetts.
I'm assuming what Mass is short for in 1979.
Witnessed by two reporters and a number of other
people in the area. So I'm going to share my
screen. Time viewers of Channel 5 know the name
Steve you hear Asia Steve was a reporter I can
hear five or 16 years until he moved Are we to
be learning about leprechauns and before that
honestly don't know I have a water That's when
he became part of the story of the Bridgewater
Triangle The spring of 1979 proved to be the
most active period of documented UFO sightings
in the history of the Bridgewater Triangle region
A number of news outlets and law enforcement
agencies were flooded with reports of large,
low -flying UFOs. During that time, former WHDH
reporters Jerry Lopes and Steve Sprague claimed
to have witnessed what is arguably the most famous
UFO sighting. Oh, they're so happy. With the
sinister music playing in the background, I'm
predicting their deaths. Jerry Lopes and I worked
at WHDH radio, and we were heading down to the
Rainham Dog Track, and we got off 24 onto 106.
I noticed this really bright light over the tree
line, and the light was coming closer and closer
and getting bigger and bigger. And I remember
saying to Jerry, what is that over there? So
we pulled his vehicle over, and all of a sudden
the stars blotted out in the shape of an arrow
as this thing passed overhead. Ironically, you're
a big baseball fan, you look like a baseball
home. That wasn't quite a triangle though. And
it was very, very wide. perhaps the width of
now we'd say five 747 swing to wing it looked
like it had a little cord or something hanging
off and sparks were coming are they not on assignment
did they not have a camera with them and also
chelsea why did they not reference it as a football
field pretty much the shape of it and this thing
passed overhead is a professional like this oh
they got a model for me as a it's not a model
It's got a light on it! There it is! It's coming
right for us! Because of football fields! You
appreciate the fact that you're amazing. Oh,
they really made it more sinister than it had
to be. I'm waiting for the death of the story.
There were a series of spottings, different sightings.
It was reported in the papers, reported on the
radio station. And at that point, Steve and I
decided to come forward and say, hey, we actually
saw something. A couple of days later, an article
appears in the Brockton Enterprise. And not only
does it have interviews with Jerry and I, but...
quite a number of other folks in and around the
Randolph area who had seen it but they've got
the staff artist the shape of a triangle for
where it was seen and they're picking the spot
outside of the triangle So I we had a family
friend that had told me about some weird things
happening around is that Corey good So I remember
going to the library and a slightly chubbier
Corey Just a little bit of extra air was blown
into him I loved taking it wherever I went and
I remember saying to a friend. I want to make
a movie Cuz I don't know what these guys are
talking about. I'm just after the I like their
story Yeah, and he and he made a model he was
really into it He was into it and then so I just
came along and stole it. Yes So that one speaks
for itself. We got to learn who their background
music guy is. He did a great job. Oh, I would
like to get my hands on that background music.
You really would. That was good background music.
And now we've gone over a few newspaper reports.
Going to move on to some Reddit sightings. User
Lynchbot, which sounds promising. I've seen it
when I was young. hundreds have. I've met three
others who've seen it at completely different
times and during the day. When I saw it, the
road was packed with traffic. It was night and
raining. Then three huge lights come over the
hill and zigzag over us and the road into the
distance. It was probably the size of a football
field, but it could be bigger or smaller. See?
It's just a turn of phrase. It really is. Yeah.
We figured some shit out on this episode. There
was a photo of it in the paper the next day but
at the daytime and high up. Why are we not seeing
this? I've never seen any footage as close as
I was to this thing. I was in the car and the
lights were just enormous. Each one felt bigger
than the car but it was pitch black so hard to
tell how far away it was in order to make any
real claims on size. Okay, so he admits it. My
dad never got over the event and is terrified
still. I love that he decided he still had to
throw in a round of size of a football field
and then like, I can't claim any size. Yeah,
but I feel like that's what everybody's claim
is. He's just admitting it. I really, that's
what I feel in my bones. I was in the Lake District
in the UK, lots of military around there. I have
no idea what it was. I've heard and read all
the theories. I've met people who claim to work
on similar tech. I've heard of similar tech being
shut down by governments. I've seen videos of
the tech working but only to backyard science
levels and they could easily be faked. It's very
hard to say and who knows what the truth was
and that is a true reddit story right there And
we're quickly on to the next with user time underscore
composer underscore 113 I witnessed one in the
mid 2000s. It was late night early morning I
went out back and happened to notice it as I
was just sort of scanning the yard in the sky
while I smoked As I recall it was directly above
my back door and above my head It was just...
there. I went inside and told my sister, quote,
There's a goddamn UFO outside. You have to come
see it. It took me a moment to convince her,
but she finally came and saw it too. It was right
where I said it was. It stayed for a few minutes
and just took off. It didn't make any sound,
same as reported by others. I've never heard
of one before and just assumed it was top secret
military stuff and didn't put much thought into
it until later. After 2017, when I started wondering
what was up with it, I looked it up and And yeah
it turns out they're well documented which wasn't
surprising since if I had seen one surely others
had too. There isn't a clear theory but they're
real. They just are. Whatever they are. There's
decent photos and videos as well. You know what?
There's actually a pretty good chance. that that
person saw one of the Illinois sightings. There
is. It was from when that lined up and they said
that there were stories about it. You're totally
right. Yeah, mid early 2000s. He doesn't say
exactly where he is, but it's very true. User
Roy Weezy, I've seen the black triangles myself
2009 when I was a smoker these smokers man We
are missing so many. I am missing so many UFO
sightings because of the decline in smoking One
of those negatives nobody talks about it is and
when a doctor says you need to quit smoking But
you're gonna be inside more you're gonna have
less of a chance of seeing you And society will
lose because of this. Yeah, so don't take the
decision lightly. I stepped outside just after
midnight to smoke a cig. It was a very clear
and cold night. I live in Washington state. But
the moon was high and bright in the sky, making
the sky a dark blue rather than black. All of
a sudden, I saw a movement above me. I'm kind
of always looking up at night to see meteors,
satellites, and planes. Anyway, I looked towards
the motion and see seven lights in tight formation.
They had the brightness of a satellite or star,
not blinding by any means. They were also very
high but I don't think they were in orbit. After
I focused on these lights for maybe one full
second, I could see black triangles between them.
They were flying in a row of three and their
wingtips were touching. Hence the seven lights
instead of nine. They shared the wingtip light.
It flew right over my head and behind me and
traveled off in the distance. That's weird. There
were more mountains in that direction so it didn't
take long for them to disappear. The whole sighting
lasted maybe 8 -10 seconds and was completely
silent. No jet noise or anything. Seeing these
craft has led me to believe that either A. Aliens
and UFOs exist in our universe and in our skies
or B. The government, most likely the USA, has
some fairly exotic tech that they aren't telling
us about. But did they build it themselves or
reverse engineer something they found? Which
would mean A is also true. Either conclusion
is crazy to me. The short sighting has had a
profound effect on the way I think and see the
world. I insist that people should look up and
watch the skies more often. You could have your
own profound 10 seconds or take up smoking. I
was kind of waiting for this to be sponsored
by Camel Cigarettes. User unicorn copia 23 sighting
at Pyramid Lake, Nevada In 2017 my parents were
visiting from another state and decided to take
them to my favorite place Pyramid Lake, Nevada
We were also accompanied by my partner and my
roommate the three of us went there almost every
weekend I was like, wow, that's such a weird
way to refer to as your partner. Hello. This
is my partner and roommate But there's three
of them Okay, yes, the commas are very important
there Five people's total saw this when it got
dark We were all kind of standing around the
shore looking out at the stunning sunset before
us suddenly my dad shouts What the hell is that
points at the water? Some sort of small craft
with lights on it was moving towards us under
the water. It was five lights in a triangle formation,
one at the front and two on each side like an
upside down V. I mean it was either being controlled
remote remotely or driven by something very tiny
because the thing was only 18 inches wide that
is not a football field that is definitely not
a football field it seemed to be moving intelligently
if that makes sense My roommate threw a rock
at it and it somehow managed to dart fast to
the side without disturbing the water. There
were ripples from the rock, but no additional
motion created by the craft itself and it reversed
and went backwards into the depths. My parents
instantly started to freak out. My dad just kept
saying, what the hell, what the hell? And my
mom was saying that she wanted to leave. Myself,
my partner and my roommate were a lot less freaked
out. We're used to seeing weird stuff at the
lake. Strange things happen there all the time.
The three of us had witnessed plenty of things
that we can't explain, although nothing quite
like this. Well, now I want to know what they
saw. And why do they keep going back there? Is
it just like that cheap? The fact that they're
like, eh, we've seen. It kind of happens. You
got to assume it's really cheap around there.
I mean. don't get me wrong we were all shocked
too but not nearly as freaked out as my parents
were it was their first paranormal experience
of any kind and they were terrified we're all
standing on the shore because that's where our
camp is set up kind of arguing about whether
or not we should leave when the thing comes back
again comes even closer than before and the yellowish
lights fade into more of an intense green color.
Now, here's where things get really fucked up.
None of us can remember what happened after that.
We still sometimes talk about it to this day,
years later, and none of us can remember seeing
it leave a final time or anything after. Basically
all of our memories blank until we were in the
car driving away. Whatever happened after the
second time it approached, you will never know
because apparently All of our memories were wiped.
The entire rest of the memory is super clear,
but once the light on that craft turned green,
everything goes blank for all five of us. I've
seen a lot of things I can't explain, apparently
at those lake, in particular at that lake. There
he said it. At huge discounts. And that's why
we like it so much. I love that he's like, yeah,
my parents will love it here. We see so much
weird stuff. We got, yeah, we got roofied by
an 18 inch pyramid. But nothing else has ever
affected me like this. I don't know what happened,
but every time I think about it, I feel this
intense fear and I don't know why. I'm planning
our summer vacation. That's just wow. Yeah. Just
because this happened there. There's a lot of
theories about what black triangles are. The
big one that people talk about is the F. Oh god.
I don't know why I decided to not write this
down and just say I would remember it. F35? I
thought it was the B52 that looks like it. Is
it B52? B52. No, that's definitely not it. No,
F -35. F -35. F -35, okay. Yeah, F -35. That,
if it is military, a lot of it is explained away
by being that. Obviously, like the last guy said.
And the guy who was really obsessed with the
aluminum. One of them said it could either be
aliens or it's the military. One of the options
is that it's extraterrestrial. One of the things
that I really wanted to cover with the black
triangles is the theory that these are in fact
terrestrial. There's a lot of researchers that
do link it back to terrestrial as well as military
operation. One witness that viewed it through
a rifle scope, that being a black triangle, and
identified an English labeled rescue access panel
as it flew over. Another witness decided to fire
a couple rounds into one from his fishing boat,
you know, as you do, not just shooting at UFOs,
but also when you go fishing, you just have a
few beers and have a gun and then you just shoot
into the air, whether or not there's a... Yeah,
sometimes the fishing rod is just not working.
So you got to... have other means of doing your
work couple in the water couple in the air yeah
hey from the stories triangles are coming from
both directions yeah it's true only to have someone
stick their head out of the black triangle and
quit shooting at us you idiot or something like
that And then, shortly thereafter, a helicopter
flew past and took pictures of the guy in the
boat. I'm glad they didn't yell at him, too.
And see, if I picture that scenario, I'm picturing
a zeppelin or something along those lines that's
moving very slowly through the air that has the
window ability to be like, hey, you stop that,
you jackass. Not like a black triangle scenario.
Also frequently spotted around military bases,
which I think is a fun fact about them, which
could also point to the fact that they're terrestrial.
The Southern Illinois sightings occurred within
one or two miles of Scott Air Force Base, home
to the U .S. Air Mobility Command, which coordinates
all global transportation for American troops.
The Hudson Valley sightings happened in close
proximity to Stewart Air Force Base, and Mellon
has interviewed, which is a guy that writes about
black triangle UFOs, I should have put that in
here better, but he interviewed multiple Persian
Gulf veterans who witnessed triangular craft
near sensitive military operations. Quote, an
adversary planning a future attack would want
to know every inch of the battlefield, he says,
alluding that they are ours. Not ours. but, you
know, military -owned terrestrial craft. And
although the US government has largely stayed
silent on the matter, it's common knowledge that
the Air Force has experimented with triangular
and V -shaped aircraft for decades, including
the B -2 Spirit Stealth Bomber and the F -117
Nighthawk, so we're both wrong, and possibly
others kept under wraps. Sightings near the clandestine
spy plane test facility in Area 51 in Nevada
may indeed be connected to test flights of some
of these crafts. And don't shoot the messenger.
I know this isn't the greatest source, but I
do know as well that Whitley Strieber is someone
who has suggested as well that some UFOs may
be operated by military forces as well rather
than extraterrestrial beings. Strieber has discussed
in interviews and his writings that the possibility
that certain UFO sightings might involve highly
advanced human -made technology, particularly
secret military or government aircraft. He has
speculated that some of the UFO phenomena could
be related to classified military projects, including
the possibility of black ops or experimental
aircraft developed by the military. I do know
that in his book, Munion, I believe it is, and
I am going off memory right now. so don't hold
me exactly to it. That's like his only book,
so just go with it. No, he does have those fiction
books that he wrote. All of them are technically
fiction. He's got to get his episode soon. Yeah,
he really does. And he does explain in detail
sightings that he does believe are humans that
are abducting him, which has a totally different
implication outside of extraterrestrial abductions.
But then you get into things if you look at it.
And this really needs to be an episode, too,
because you get into who was it Roosevelt that
it is said that he made a contract with extraterrestrials
to allow them to abduct? humans. Yeah FDR. Or
was it Eisenhower? It's one of the two. It's
one of those. It's right around World War II
so it's one of those two. Yeah so and that's
another episode to do as well maybe even a mini
I don't know how much information is out there
on that but it's all something to think about
and that's Pretty much all I have on this I just
I really wanted to cover the human aspect of
the black triangles and also I like back triangles
and I only learned just recently that black triangles
were angles and not pyramids so it also was something
that kind of blew my mind and I figured I needed
to look more into this in the concept of being
a triangle and not a pyramid yeah and I think
a fun thing to add to this Chelsea is government
logos secretly hiding this technology in it The
first one that's not that great is look up NASA's
logo. Does NASA even exist anymore? Let's not
worry about that. With that weird boomerang -y
shape to it. But yeah, that's not there for no
reason. The even more fun one, Chelsea, is Space
Force logo. Is that Serpo? Space Force? Oh yeah,
that's a black triangle. Yeah. So that brings
just as many questions to mind as to why are
they putting a black triangle into their logo
like that. Because that is what's been described
to us basically every time. That is, that is
exactly how it would, and then it has that even
the little star in the middle like was explained
on some of them. Yeah, and the Space Force is
the newest arm of the military that was founded
under Donald Trump's first term. Oh wow. And
also ran into some controversy because a Netflix
show got greenlit before Space Force the military
arm was created. and the Netflix show was called
Space Force, and they got to retain the rights
because they were doing it before Space Force
was created, so there's a series that's like
two seasons long with Steve Carell. Yeah, Steve
Carell. It's about Space Force, but it's not
related because it was cream -lit before it was
created, because the truth is stranger than fiction,
so. Yeah. Love that. And yeah, was I going to
add anything else? I think I had something to
add, but then I forgot. It must not have been
that important. Probably not. Yeah, that's what
I have on the black triangles. Awesome. And thank
you for that, Chelsea. Gave us a few different
ideas for what we're doing for future episodes,
too. Not that we ever have a shortage of episodes.
Nope. But in any event, I have been Taylor. You're
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