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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join

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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome

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to Drink to the Fringe. Certainly not the worst

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decision of your week. I'm sure of it, and if

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it is, well then I would call that a pretty good

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week. We are your optimistic podcast host Taylor

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and Chelsea here today listening through or talking

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through a Chelsea episode depending on which

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one of us you are in the situation Okay Okay,

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okay, just kidding I threw my voice pretty good

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there. I know I do a pretty good Taylor Today

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I'm gonna talk to you Taylor about UAPs and not

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just any UAPs a very specific kind of UAP that

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is widely spotted all over the place. Want to

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take a guess? First I really can't wait for that

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episode where it's just any UAP that we're doing

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it. We're gonna be looking out the window for

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the next two hours. Whatever shows up we're talking

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about That one is unidentified for now Is it

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the black triangle it is Okay, I was trying to

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think back if we've done that one or not because

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that's probably the most famous of them I didn't

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actually check that we haven't done it yet. Yeah

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triangle shape, not to be confused with pyramid

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shaped UAP, which are two totally different things,

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apparently. And like Taylor just said, it has

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to be one of the most popular UAP shapes. There's

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so many shapes that are to be had by UAPs, but

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whoever the hell is driving these things, the

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clear choice is triangle. It's the strongest

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shape, isn't it? I mean, it depends on what you're

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talking about exactly, but sure. I would also

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add if you're gonna have a mass sighting, it

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really seems like triangle shape is the most

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likely you're gonna see. Yeah. Probably. Not

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that I've counted them up or anything like that.

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It just kind of feels like that. But yeah, triangles

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are pretty strong. They are? Okay, good. I'm

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just gonna clarify again because I know it's

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confusing. I would consider these more of a boomerang

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shape. Triangle in case you were also picturing

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a pyramid in your head. I'm not gonna let it

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go. I Was sure for the longest time that these

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UAPs were pyramid shaped be fair We don't really

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know what shape they are Because triangle is

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a two -dimensional shape and I'm fairly certain

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these are not two -dimensional crafts True, you

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know, it is triangle again above them and therefore

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pyramid. We just don't yeah, I haven't ever heard

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it actually now that you're saying it described

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as a three -dimensional shape because i don't

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think anybody's see well maybe they're seeing

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them from another angle nope yeah they're usually

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in the sky and their people are on the ground

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that you hear these stories from yeah but we

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did have an episode where it came to like that

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i was picturing pyramids and they are not pyramids

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just in case anyone has the same issue that i

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have mentally So there are so many encounters

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of these triangle shaped craft often described

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as dark in color covering or moving slowly and

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eerily silently and Reaching sizes larger than

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a football field and sometimes they're dotted

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with lights accentuating the triangle boomerang

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shape I'm actually going to do this episode a

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little bit backwards. Do you think that's how

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the triangle spacecraft salesman sells it? They

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add the extra lights because it accentuates the

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sleek triangle. It accentuates the shape because

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that's what you want in your secret craft. Yeah,

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it's the most popular design and this is really

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gonna accentuate that shape of the boomerang

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Yeah, yeah No, and really people are gonna be

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confused about what shape it is because you're

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gonna see it at night And you're really is it

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fully a triangle is a boomerang. I don't know.

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Is it a flying? Is it yeast? Yeah, that's why

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you need these accentuating lights for the sexiness

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of the crap These upsells sell themselves And

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quiet versus all the honking you hear with a

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V of geese. That upgrade isn't as popular. Or

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it's too popular and the geese got it all. As

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I was saying, I'm gonna start with some of the

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most popular sightings that you may have heard

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about the Black Triangles. First up we have the

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1980s Hudson Valley sightings. During the 1980s

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there are several hundred people claimed to have

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witnessed UAPs flying over or near to the Hudson

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River in New York State. The craft was often

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said to move slowly and silently, as is very

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common, like I said. and sometimes it would hover

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for extended periods of time before moving away.

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Many sightings were accompanied by reports of

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strange electromagnetic effects like car engine

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stalling and radio interference. Despite the

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large number of witnesses, the sightings were

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never conclusively explained and various theories

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emerged. Some suggested the possibility of military

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exercises, while others speculated about UFOs

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or experimental aircraft. Hudson Valley sightings

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remain one of the most famous and well -documented

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UFO phenomena in the United States. And I'm pretty

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sure we did do an episode on this one, I think.

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I think we did, yes. Don't hold me to it. Moving

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on, 1989 to 1992 is the Belgian UAP wave. The

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Belgian UFO wave began in November 1989. The

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events of the 29th of November were documented

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by over 30 different groups of witnesses and

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three separate groups of police officers. All

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of the reports related to a large object flying

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at a low altitude. The craft was flat and triangular

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with lights underneath. The giant craft did not

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make a sound as it slowly moved across the landscape

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of Belgium. Most witnesses reported that the

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objects were silent. The Belgian UFO wave peaked

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with the events on the night of March 30, 1990.

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On that night, one unknown object was tracked

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on radar and two Belgian Air Force F -16s were

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sent to investigate with neither pilot reporting

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seeing the object. No reports were received from

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the public on the date, but over the next two

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weeks, reports from 143 people who claimed to

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have witnessed the object were received, all

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of them after the event. Over the ensuing months,

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many others claim to have witnessed these events

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as well. This is definitely entire episode worthy,

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but you're just getting a brief glimpse at it

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here. These major sightings of black triangle

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UFOs. We could have done more work, but we choose

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not to. And you all know that if you've been

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here long enough, we give you the gist. Exactly.

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A little bit more. And plus the last one we did

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have another episode on and the next one that

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I'm gonna read now does have another episode

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on it so it's not like we may not cover one of

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these in a future episode. I'm sure you don't

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have an answer. It's just a brief glimpse. i'm

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sure you don't have an answer for this but i

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would just be curious if the belgian wave extended

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past the borders of belgium anywhere i'm gonna

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answer no oh because like even one of your stories

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is on the german border so like i know I'm assuming

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the majority of them just based on this and this

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is my assumption took place within Belgium's

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confines Yeah, but it's easy enough to generalize

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it and just say it's the Belgian wave Hey, it's

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not like the Belgian some of Germany, but only

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that one time and a little bit in France But

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only that one time which is super strange as

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well because it's in Europe So it's such a small

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area of land as well. So yeah It is coming from

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Belgium on this one, and I'm gonna stick with

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that. And on to the next one we've covered in

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an episode, as I alluded to, the 1997 Phoenix

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Light, which was a widely reported appearance

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of black triangles involved in the Phoenix Light.

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Yes, I know that. during which multiple unidentified

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objects were observed near Phoenix, Arizona,

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and videotaped by both the local media and residents

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beginning on Thursday, March 13, 1997. The objects,

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or lights, which appeared to be grouped in a

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large V -formation that lingered for several

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minutes. Some residents reported one of the black

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triangles to be over a mile wide, and then it

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drifted slowly over their house, blocking out

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the night sky stars. An official report from

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the U .S. Air Force concluded that the military

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had been locally testing aircraft launch flares

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during that period. And it was also witnessed

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by Kurt Russell. Very important. Yes, which we

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have had an episode on in the past. Kurt Russell.

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Yeah. Which brings me to the next one. A 2000

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millennium Southern Illinois incident. The St.

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Clair Triangle. The UFO over Illinois. The Southern

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Illinois UFO or Highland Illinois UFO sighting

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occurred on January 5th, 2000 over the towns

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of Highland, Upo, Lebanon, Shiloh, Summerfield,

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Milstead, and O 'Fallon, Illinois. See, this

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is the problem you get when you try to be overly

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encompassing is you get a really hard to name

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blip. Too many options on this. Yeah, like just

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go with Belgium. Just call it the Belgian one

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because I saw it first. Yeah. Beginning shortly

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after 4am, in the early hours of January 5th,

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2000, residents and on -duty police officers

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in St. Clair County, Illinois witnessed a prolonged

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UAP encounter. object described as triangular

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and about the size of a football field, they're

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all described as the size of a football field.

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Are we talking the same football field? I guess

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technically they're about the same size. Never

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mind. Yeah. Now that I'm thinking about it. Okay.

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Are we are we including like the track around

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a football field and the stadium seats or just

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like it's about a hundred ish meters yards? I

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feel like the people who are saying that aren't

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thinking about that. So maybe. I don't know if

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somebody says it's as big as a football field.

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I don't know. Are they just talking about the

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field? Would you just picture a field? No, but

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I don't think they're being that specific about

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it, to be honest. And I'm not, if I saw something

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like that, I'd be like, holy shit, that's huge.

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It's the size of a football field. And I wouldn't

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actually know by eyeing something if it was actually

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the size of a football field, I feel like. In

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my mind, you really can't, because this is something

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in the sky, so you don't really have any way

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of, oh, what's it called? Referencing, a reference

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point for how big it is, or how far away it is.

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so I don't unless these people are good at it

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yeah I feel like it might just be a turn of phrase

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being that they saw something really big and

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they want to compare it to something really big

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because like I see I see the moon in the sky

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and the only reason I know it's bigger than a

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football field I know it's bigger than a football

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field because I have a reference point to how

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far away it is, but I do have to trust a lot

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of other people that it's that big. And at the

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same time, like I'm looking at the moon, I wouldn't

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say that it's as big as a football field. I wonder

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how many people would describe it to someone.

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I would be like, if you held a loony up into

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the sky, it's like that. Oh, you've just confused

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so many of our listeners. It's as big as a toony,

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Chelsea, come on. Much easier to get reference

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and I've never heard this talked about actually

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and when somebody's saying something as big as

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a football field So you bring up a good point.

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Yeah, and it might just be people trying to think

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of something big to say it was huge You know

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what? It could have just been John keel was the

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first one to do the investigations and that was

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his opening question So was it as big as a football?

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Yes, and now everybody says it didn't have legs

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that went on for miles Was it silent like somebody

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masturbating on the other end of the phone line?

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Oh no, he specifically says not like, but yeah.

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What would you, if you saw something huge in

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the sky, what else could you compare it to? Hey,

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that's his biggest super store. Yeah, I don't

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know car lengths. You see planes in the sky So

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maybe you could compare it to a plane, but that's

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not as big I wouldn't say a plane's as big as

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a football field Like what could be I don't think

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size that that's big. Well to two planes, Chelsea

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Two planes, but at the same time I'm not gonna

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be like wow, that's the size of seven play Yeah,

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there's a point where you got to switch it off

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because you gotta switch it to something bigger

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unless Yeah, but that's how... That's the size

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of like a Walmart. But at the same time, like

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none of those things are triangle shaped that

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you're trying to compare it to. Super stores,

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Walmarts, football fields. I don't think we have

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any triangle sporting fields. No. So that's why

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they're going with football field. I'm just trying

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to think of what else, if not football field,

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would I compare this to? Baseball diamond? Baseball

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diamond. OK. Because that's half of a... Hockey

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rink? That's not going to help us in any way.

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Okay. Also, yeah, it's only about 100 feet or

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110 feet or whatever. It's also like a football

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field. Okay, okay. Where the fuck am I? Well,

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yeah, you are right. It's hard to have reference

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points in this. Yeah, I feel like when we actually

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say it, that it's just something huge and we

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have no other reference. it's as big as a football

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what if it wasn't what if it was smaller than

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a football field what would you use as a reference

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point or would you just say it is smaller than

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a football field see i feel like if it's smaller

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then you would use an airplane maybe an elephant

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maybe but how many elephants until you have to

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convert it to an airplane or football How many

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airplanes until you gotta start using football

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fields? It's way too technical at this point.

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I don't fucking know. I've never seen one. I've

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never needed to measure something in the sky.

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I have no reference. I'm just gonna wait for

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John keel to tell me how to feel. He's dead.

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You're never gonna know. Well, not with the AI

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technology we have now. Oh, no, he's gonna come

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back to interview witnesses. It's gonna be so

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sexist. He's gonna be pissed with the way society

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works. I know, but he's gonna fit right in. What's

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this me too thing? Okay, okay, football field.

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That's where I got to. It also moves slowly and

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silently over the area. One of the first witnesses,

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66 year old Melvern Noel, saw a bright light

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that appeared to be a big house floating in the

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air with windows visible on the craft. There

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we go, the mouse. Noel observed the object for

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about five minutes before it disappeared. He

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reported the sighting to the Highland Police,

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who passed the information to other officers,

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including Officer Ed Barton. The sighting is

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part of a larger pattern of triangle UFO reports,

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which have sparked ongoing speculation about

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whether these objects are extraterrestrial craft

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or top -secret military technology. The Illinois

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UFO incident remains a point of interest for

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UFO enthusiasts. and investigators and has been

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featured on multiple tv shows now that audiobook

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for the mothman prophecies i didn't expect that

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it would forever change you have such an impact

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2004 to 2006 tinley park lights three lights

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hovered in a triangular formation oh This is

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not a triangle UFO though. It's a very abstract

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triangle so far triangular formation received

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by multiple witnesses in Tinley Park and Oak

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Forest, Illinois another Illinois Why isn't this

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in the Illinois one that and then the question

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really has to be asked now? Are they hitting

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moth people? Yeah, like there's a lot of things

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going on in the sky there, but Are they maybe

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moth people? Because UFO sightings and moth people

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go hand in hand, as we've seen in Illinois sightings

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at least. And the moth man brought the seeds,

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now that I think about it. They just appear in

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the same book. That would be a big moth person.

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It would be. That would be terrifying. And also

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weirdly triangular lights. On August 24, 2004,

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two months later on October 31, 2004, again on

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October 1, 2005, and again on October 31, 2006,

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witnesses photographed the lights and captured

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them on video. According to some ufologists,

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video evidence suggests the lights kept geometrical

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shape and moved as if they were attached through

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a dark object. The incident was examined on Dateline

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NBC episode on May 18, 2008. if I've heard about

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that one or not. I'm not sure. I haven't at all.

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But to be fair, I hadn't heard of the other Illinois

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one either. No, neither. The other ones too,

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but they're famous enough to make it into these

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notes. 2008, Stephenville, Texas. This sighting

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occurred in January 2008 in Stephenville, Texas.

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But who made the notes for this? Geez. Enumerous

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residents reported seeing strange lights in the

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sky. Witnesses described the lights as large,

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bright and moving erratically, some even stating

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they appeared to be a part of a large craft.

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The lights were observed for several minutes

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and some witnesses claimed to have seen a large,

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silent triangular or cigar -shaped object. Some

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even claimed the occupants inside were mantis

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beings. The US military later acknowledged the

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presence of fighter jets in the area at the time

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but denied any connection to the sightings. The

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incident gained widespread media attention, fueling

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speculation about UFOs and government coverups.

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So those are just some of the more famous sightings

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that included black triangles. And while the

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ones I mentioned are more modern, these sightings

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go back centuries to my surprise, and maybe yours.

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that's why I'm sharing it with you. We have very

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good witness testimony going back to the late

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20s even later. I couldn't find documentation

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for the ones that I found even going back into

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like the 1500s. So I have some from the 20s here

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or maybe I don't, I don't know. They only wrote

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the episode. These sightings all describe basically

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the same thing as I just went through these more

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modern -day sightings with you with the same

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type of triangular craft demonstrating the same

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characteristics and the coming of the internet

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would also Contribute to the spreading of these

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ones versus the ones that go further back. Oh

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now I'm gonna go over some less popular ones

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I guess that maybe you haven't heard of because

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they're going back a little further than these

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more mass sightings yeah September 1960 there

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was basically identical in description to the

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Belgian craft and the Belgian craft are basically

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identical to the other ones it was a standard

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triangle ufo with points of life on each tip

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and revolving red light at the center just like

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the Belgian craft was silent hovered and also

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zipped off at high speed and it was witnessed

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by an air force vet his family his neighbors

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and a police officer i'm gonna read to you the

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actual newspaper article here if i can zoom in

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on it to actually read it yep okay triangle that

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flies sighted along shore september 17 1960 richard

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Earton has come up with a new flying saucer angle,

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a triangle that flies. He reports having seen

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a flying triangle in the shoreline area two weeks

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ago. Is that the story? No, I'm just trying to

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read the last name. Earton, who lives at 34 Grove

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Road. I love it when they put the addresses in

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the newspaper here. said he and his wife first

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noticed it about 11 30 p .m. while they were

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driving on Something number one in Westbrook

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was hovering 80 feet or so above the cottages

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along the oceanfront when it moved noiselessly

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and lightning fast, traveled in the direction

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of its apex when going upward and in the direction

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of its sides when moving sideways. What the fuck

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is he talking about? In other words, the view

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of the moving triangle was the same as that of

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an equilateral... Equilateral triangle? Equilateral

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or Isosceles? If I zoom in it gets all blurry.

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Scaling triangle? As it would appear drawn in

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two dimensions on a sheet of paper. Scaling triangle

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a thing? I'm trying to - is an air force veteran

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said the oh it is scaling triangle there you

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go are all those people who would picture exactly

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all sides are unequal and all angles have different

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measures okay that's a that's really weird it

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still doesn't make sense that is really weird

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yeah so he's a air force veteran he said the

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mysterious object appeared to be about the about

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the axle of a fighter aircraft or possibly a

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bit bigger At two points of the triangle were

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white lights and at the apex a blue light shone.

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In the middle of the solid figure a red light

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flashed much like the light stop of a police

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cruiser. Anticipating ridicule and disbelief,

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Irton withheld reporting the strange sight of

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Fortnite, but he got such a good look at it that

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his curiosity eventually got the better of him.

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He notified state police. Don't want the publicity,

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he says. I'm just dying to know what it was that

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I saw. An incline to the belief that it was a

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new type of aircraft the government is testing.

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Irton's father and several neighbours at the

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shore also reported seeing the object, though

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not at so close. close a distance. But one minute

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it was hovering over the beach and the next moment

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it had zoomed up so high it appeared to be one

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of the stars." He said. And it never made a sound.

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Ayrton had the object in his binoculars for a

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good half an hour. It was weird, he says. I don't

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mind telling you, my wife was scared. He has

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heard nothing from the official sources as to

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what the object was. A belief indicated that

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he received reports of other sightings, he said.

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And that was a very difficult to read news article

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about that sighting. Well, in any event, it will

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sound better in the edits. It really will. It's

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going to sound so professional. June 18, 1950,

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similar triangle sighting to the previous encounter,

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but it didn't have the light on each tip. Can

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I just make a prediction on this one? Yes. John

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Keel is showing up and he's saying that it's

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the size of a football field. Oh my god. Wouldn't

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that be so funny if he showed up? Okay, here

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we have a crossword puzzle that I actually would

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be loving to do. This is breeds of canines, and

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there's the picture of a puppy in the middle

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of the crossword. Puppy's not a breed, Chelsea.

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Yes, it is. Picked a breed of canine. Well, this

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blank was developed in Mexico. Oh, great. This

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dog. Who's going to save it? Okay, anyhow, I

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feel like there's something else we should be

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talking about. Okay, okay, I was distracted by

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the puppy in the middle of a crossword flying

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saucer at Roscoe maneuvers and then speeds Roscoe

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Roscoe's first flying saucer was spotted recently

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June 8th about 3 p .m. their first flying saucer

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at WC Kelly at his farm five miles southeast

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of here according to a report in the Roscoe Times

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quote Kelly was plowing and was prompted to look

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upwards by hearing an airplane passing over end

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quote the Times reported quote he saw the plane

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flying above the clouds but he also saw a strange

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triangular object under the clouds it was tur

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- burning and maneuvering in a remarkable manner.

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The airplane passed on out of hearing but the

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triangular object remained and continued its

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maneuvering without making any noise at all.

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Kelly said it appeared to be 10 feet or larger

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in diameter and its edges looked to be aluminum.

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It's like I could just reach out and crinkle

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it up. Yeah. This thing's so advanced, like the

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aluminum of its day. It kind of reminds me that

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it came up in Behind the Bastards on Napoleon

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III, that he was trying to be super fancy, so

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he didn't get cutlery made of gold and silver.

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His was made of aluminum, because at the time

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aluminum was incredibly rare. so time really

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played him for the fool it really did because

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that's super shitty after several maneuvers objects

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suddenly took off in a southeasterly direction

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at a tremendous burst of speed estimated by kelly

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to be several times speed of sound was go how

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would he estimate that It disappeared from sight

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in about four seconds, he said. He only said

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the object definitely was operated by some form

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of power, that it was highly maneuverable, and

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was not any form of air. It wasn't just window

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cystic. Yeah. He could not estimate its height

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accurately. Well, I mean, I couldn't say he estimated

00:26:46.700 --> 00:26:49.480
any of that accurately. That's not true. He estimated

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aluminum. visible. Although flying saucers have

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been reported from many other places, this was

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the first glimpse reported at any raw skin of

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the strange objects which many people are now

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beginning to believe are some sort of secret

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weapon of the United States. Wow, that left a

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lot to be imagined. Well, it does line up with

00:27:12.569 --> 00:27:15.190
like every sighting outside of that one Belgian

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flap is in the US. Yeah, it does, but he really

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took a lot of educated And it goes to show what

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you've been saying like you can't really guess

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without having a reference point frame or reference

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the next one I'm gonna share with you is a new

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segment on a massive baseball home plate -shaped

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craft flying around in Bridgewater, Massachusetts.

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I'm assuming what Mass is short for in 1979.

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Witnessed by two reporters and a number of other

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people in the area. So I'm going to share my

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screen. Time viewers of Channel 5 know the name

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Steve you hear Asia Steve was a reporter I can

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hear five or 16 years until he moved Are we to

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be learning about leprechauns and before that

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honestly don't know I have a water That's when

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he became part of the story of the Bridgewater

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Triangle The spring of 1979 proved to be the

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most active period of documented UFO sightings

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in the history of the Bridgewater Triangle region

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A number of news outlets and law enforcement

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agencies were flooded with reports of large,

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low -flying UFOs. During that time, former WHDH

00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:38.299
reporters Jerry Lopes and Steve Sprague claimed

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to have witnessed what is arguably the most famous

00:28:41.539 --> 00:28:42.599
UFO sighting. Oh, they're so happy. With the

00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.500
sinister music playing in the background, I'm

00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:46.140
predicting their deaths. Jerry Lopes and I worked

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at WHDH radio, and we were heading down to the

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Rainham Dog Track, and we got off 24 onto 106.

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I noticed this really bright light over the tree

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line, and the light was coming closer and closer

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and getting bigger and bigger. And I remember

00:29:00.049 --> 00:29:03.150
saying to Jerry, what is that over there? So

00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:05.289
we pulled his vehicle over, and all of a sudden

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the stars blotted out in the shape of an arrow

00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:12.109
as this thing passed overhead. Ironically, you're

00:29:12.109 --> 00:29:14.829
a big baseball fan, you look like a baseball

00:29:14.829 --> 00:29:17.890
home. That wasn't quite a triangle though. And

00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:21.279
it was very, very wide. perhaps the width of

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now we'd say five 747 swing to wing it looked

00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:27.599
like it had a little cord or something hanging

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off and sparks were coming are they not on assignment

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did they not have a camera with them and also

00:29:33.700 --> 00:29:36.180
chelsea why did they not reference it as a football

00:29:36.180 --> 00:29:38.960
field pretty much the shape of it and this thing

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.099
passed overhead is a professional like this oh

00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:45.259
they got a model for me as a it's not a model

00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:57.079
It's got a light on it! There it is! It's coming

00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:12.480
right for us! Because of football fields! You

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.380
appreciate the fact that you're amazing. Oh,

00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:17.339
they really made it more sinister than it had

00:30:17.339 --> 00:30:19.660
to be. I'm waiting for the death of the story.

00:30:43.099 --> 00:30:46.519
There were a series of spottings, different sightings.

00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:48.859
It was reported in the papers, reported on the

00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:52.920
radio station. And at that point, Steve and I

00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.519
decided to come forward and say, hey, we actually

00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.680
saw something. A couple of days later, an article

00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.819
appears in the Brockton Enterprise. And not only

00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:06.700
does it have interviews with Jerry and I, but...

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.380
quite a number of other folks in and around the

00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:11.019
Randolph area who had seen it but they've got

00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:14.339
the staff artist the shape of a triangle for

00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:16.680
where it was seen and they're picking the spot

00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:42.259
outside of the triangle So I we had a family

00:31:42.259 --> 00:31:45.000
friend that had told me about some weird things

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.400
happening around is that Corey good So I remember

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.420
going to the library and a slightly chubbier

00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:55.940
Corey Just a little bit of extra air was blown

00:31:55.940 --> 00:31:59.240
into him I loved taking it wherever I went and

00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:00.759
I remember saying to a friend. I want to make

00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.920
a movie Cuz I don't know what these guys are

00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.299
talking about. I'm just after the I like their

00:32:07.299 --> 00:32:11.680
story Yeah, and he and he made a model he was

00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.200
really into it He was into it and then so I just

00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.539
came along and stole it. Yes So that one speaks

00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:21.000
for itself. We got to learn who their background

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.059
music guy is. He did a great job. Oh, I would

00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:26.599
like to get my hands on that background music.

00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.079
You really would. That was good background music.

00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.259
And now we've gone over a few newspaper reports.

00:32:33.460 --> 00:32:35.799
Going to move on to some Reddit sightings. User

00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.579
Lynchbot, which sounds promising. I've seen it

00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:41.559
when I was young. hundreds have. I've met three

00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.740
others who've seen it at completely different

00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:46.440
times and during the day. When I saw it, the

00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.200
road was packed with traffic. It was night and

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.799
raining. Then three huge lights come over the

00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.980
hill and zigzag over us and the road into the

00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:57.500
distance. It was probably the size of a football

00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:00.000
field, but it could be bigger or smaller. See?

00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.519
It's just a turn of phrase. It really is. Yeah.

00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.430
We figured some shit out on this episode. There

00:33:06.430 --> 00:33:09.089
was a photo of it in the paper the next day but

00:33:09.089 --> 00:33:12.170
at the daytime and high up. Why are we not seeing

00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:14.509
this? I've never seen any footage as close as

00:33:14.509 --> 00:33:16.829
I was to this thing. I was in the car and the

00:33:16.829 --> 00:33:19.369
lights were just enormous. Each one felt bigger

00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:21.990
than the car but it was pitch black so hard to

00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:24.349
tell how far away it was in order to make any

00:33:24.349 --> 00:33:27.519
real claims on size. Okay, so he admits it. My

00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.599
dad never got over the event and is terrified

00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.940
still. I love that he decided he still had to

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:35.079
throw in a round of size of a football field

00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.079
and then like, I can't claim any size. Yeah,

00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:40.880
but I feel like that's what everybody's claim

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.339
is. He's just admitting it. I really, that's

00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:47.279
what I feel in my bones. I was in the Lake District

00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.460
in the UK, lots of military around there. I have

00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.759
no idea what it was. I've heard and read all

00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.059
the theories. I've met people who claim to work

00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:58.039
on similar tech. I've heard of similar tech being

00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.839
shut down by governments. I've seen videos of

00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.720
the tech working but only to backyard science

00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.940
levels and they could easily be faked. It's very

00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:09.900
hard to say and who knows what the truth was

00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:13.139
and that is a true reddit story right there And

00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:17.099
we're quickly on to the next with user time underscore

00:34:17.099 --> 00:34:21.219
composer underscore 113 I witnessed one in the

00:34:21.219 --> 00:34:24.579
mid 2000s. It was late night early morning I

00:34:24.579 --> 00:34:27.659
went out back and happened to notice it as I

00:34:27.659 --> 00:34:30.539
was just sort of scanning the yard in the sky

00:34:30.539 --> 00:34:33.860
while I smoked As I recall it was directly above

00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:37.199
my back door and above my head It was just...

00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:40.530
there. I went inside and told my sister, quote,

00:34:40.590 --> 00:34:43.670
There's a goddamn UFO outside. You have to come

00:34:43.670 --> 00:34:46.150
see it. It took me a moment to convince her,

00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:48.670
but she finally came and saw it too. It was right

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:51.190
where I said it was. It stayed for a few minutes

00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:53.369
and just took off. It didn't make any sound,

00:34:53.389 --> 00:34:55.929
same as reported by others. I've never heard

00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:58.429
of one before and just assumed it was top secret

00:34:58.429 --> 00:35:01.010
military stuff and didn't put much thought into

00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:04.309
it until later. After 2017, when I started wondering

00:35:04.309 --> 00:35:06.860
what was up with it, I looked it up and And yeah

00:35:06.860 --> 00:35:09.300
it turns out they're well documented which wasn't

00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:12.059
surprising since if I had seen one surely others

00:35:12.059 --> 00:35:14.880
had too. There isn't a clear theory but they're

00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.739
real. They just are. Whatever they are. There's

00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:20.420
decent photos and videos as well. You know what?

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.039
There's actually a pretty good chance. that that

00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.900
person saw one of the Illinois sightings. There

00:35:26.900 --> 00:35:29.500
is. It was from when that lined up and they said

00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:31.960
that there were stories about it. You're totally

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:34.539
right. Yeah, mid early 2000s. He doesn't say

00:35:34.539 --> 00:35:38.239
exactly where he is, but it's very true. User

00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.320
Roy Weezy, I've seen the black triangles myself

00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:47.579
2009 when I was a smoker these smokers man We

00:35:47.579 --> 00:35:50.820
are missing so many. I am missing so many UFO

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:55.539
sightings because of the decline in smoking One

00:35:55.539 --> 00:35:59.139
of those negatives nobody talks about it is and

00:35:59.139 --> 00:36:02.420
when a doctor says you need to quit smoking But

00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:04.699
you're gonna be inside more you're gonna have

00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:08.590
less of a chance of seeing you And society will

00:36:08.590 --> 00:36:12.269
lose because of this. Yeah, so don't take the

00:36:12.269 --> 00:36:15.989
decision lightly. I stepped outside just after

00:36:15.989 --> 00:36:18.710
midnight to smoke a cig. It was a very clear

00:36:18.710 --> 00:36:21.409
and cold night. I live in Washington state. But

00:36:21.409 --> 00:36:23.989
the moon was high and bright in the sky, making

00:36:23.989 --> 00:36:26.809
the sky a dark blue rather than black. All of

00:36:26.809 --> 00:36:29.309
a sudden, I saw a movement above me. I'm kind

00:36:29.309 --> 00:36:32.190
of always looking up at night to see meteors,

00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:34.710
satellites, and planes. Anyway, I looked towards

00:36:34.710 --> 00:36:37.469
the motion and see seven lights in tight formation.

00:36:37.829 --> 00:36:40.010
They had the brightness of a satellite or star,

00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:43.289
not blinding by any means. They were also very

00:36:43.289 --> 00:36:46.110
high but I don't think they were in orbit. After

00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:48.650
I focused on these lights for maybe one full

00:36:48.650 --> 00:36:51.670
second, I could see black triangles between them.

00:36:51.769 --> 00:36:54.570
They were flying in a row of three and their

00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:57.710
wingtips were touching. Hence the seven lights

00:36:57.710 --> 00:37:00.530
instead of nine. They shared the wingtip light.

00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.489
It flew right over my head and behind me and

00:37:03.489 --> 00:37:06.389
traveled off in the distance. That's weird. There

00:37:06.389 --> 00:37:08.849
were more mountains in that direction so it didn't

00:37:08.849 --> 00:37:11.449
take long for them to disappear. The whole sighting

00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:14.130
lasted maybe 8 -10 seconds and was completely

00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:17.010
silent. No jet noise or anything. Seeing these

00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:20.309
craft has led me to believe that either A. Aliens

00:37:20.309 --> 00:37:23.210
and UFOs exist in our universe and in our skies

00:37:23.210 --> 00:37:27.670
or B. The government, most likely the USA, has

00:37:27.670 --> 00:37:30.429
some fairly exotic tech that they aren't telling

00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:33.679
us about. But did they build it themselves or

00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.820
reverse engineer something they found? Which

00:37:35.820 --> 00:37:38.699
would mean A is also true. Either conclusion

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:41.559
is crazy to me. The short sighting has had a

00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.780
profound effect on the way I think and see the

00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:46.280
world. I insist that people should look up and

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.360
watch the skies more often. You could have your

00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.900
own profound 10 seconds or take up smoking. I

00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:54.019
was kind of waiting for this to be sponsored

00:37:54.019 --> 00:38:00.519
by Camel Cigarettes. User unicorn copia 23 sighting

00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.880
at Pyramid Lake, Nevada In 2017 my parents were

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.440
visiting from another state and decided to take

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.320
them to my favorite place Pyramid Lake, Nevada

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.179
We were also accompanied by my partner and my

00:38:13.179 --> 00:38:15.880
roommate the three of us went there almost every

00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.860
weekend I was like, wow, that's such a weird

00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:21.000
way to refer to as your partner. Hello. This

00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.840
is my partner and roommate But there's three

00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.110
of them Okay, yes, the commas are very important

00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:34.769
there Five people's total saw this when it got

00:38:34.769 --> 00:38:37.710
dark We were all kind of standing around the

00:38:37.710 --> 00:38:40.329
shore looking out at the stunning sunset before

00:38:40.329 --> 00:38:43.489
us suddenly my dad shouts What the hell is that

00:38:43.489 --> 00:38:46.639
points at the water? Some sort of small craft

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.340
with lights on it was moving towards us under

00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:53.000
the water. It was five lights in a triangle formation,

00:38:53.219 --> 00:38:56.420
one at the front and two on each side like an

00:38:56.420 --> 00:39:00.280
upside down V. I mean it was either being controlled

00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.360
remote remotely or driven by something very tiny

00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.260
because the thing was only 18 inches wide that

00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:11.420
is not a football field that is definitely not

00:39:11.420 --> 00:39:14.559
a football field it seemed to be moving intelligently

00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:18.159
if that makes sense My roommate threw a rock

00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.400
at it and it somehow managed to dart fast to

00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.599
the side without disturbing the water. There

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.980
were ripples from the rock, but no additional

00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:28.860
motion created by the craft itself and it reversed

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:31.579
and went backwards into the depths. My parents

00:39:31.579 --> 00:39:34.239
instantly started to freak out. My dad just kept

00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.500
saying, what the hell, what the hell? And my

00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:39.780
mom was saying that she wanted to leave. Myself,

00:39:40.019 --> 00:39:42.559
my partner and my roommate were a lot less freaked

00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.840
out. We're used to seeing weird stuff at the

00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.099
lake. Strange things happen there all the time.

00:39:47.380 --> 00:39:49.760
The three of us had witnessed plenty of things

00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:51.760
that we can't explain, although nothing quite

00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.039
like this. Well, now I want to know what they

00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.239
saw. And why do they keep going back there? Is

00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.940
it just like that cheap? The fact that they're

00:39:58.940 --> 00:40:02.519
like, eh, we've seen. It kind of happens. You

00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.820
got to assume it's really cheap around there.

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:08.570
I mean. don't get me wrong we were all shocked

00:40:08.570 --> 00:40:11.010
too but not nearly as freaked out as my parents

00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:13.550
were it was their first paranormal experience

00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:16.489
of any kind and they were terrified we're all

00:40:16.489 --> 00:40:18.949
standing on the shore because that's where our

00:40:18.949 --> 00:40:21.550
camp is set up kind of arguing about whether

00:40:21.550 --> 00:40:24.150
or not we should leave when the thing comes back

00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:28.349
again comes even closer than before and the yellowish

00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:31.710
lights fade into more of an intense green color.

00:40:31.949 --> 00:40:35.269
Now, here's where things get really fucked up.

00:40:35.590 --> 00:40:38.489
None of us can remember what happened after that.

00:40:38.570 --> 00:40:41.429
We still sometimes talk about it to this day,

00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:44.489
years later, and none of us can remember seeing

00:40:44.489 --> 00:40:48.269
it leave a final time or anything after. Basically

00:40:48.269 --> 00:40:51.469
all of our memories blank until we were in the

00:40:51.469 --> 00:40:54.710
car driving away. Whatever happened after the

00:40:54.710 --> 00:40:57.010
second time it approached, you will never know

00:40:57.010 --> 00:40:59.869
because apparently All of our memories were wiped.

00:41:00.369 --> 00:41:02.550
The entire rest of the memory is super clear,

00:41:02.710 --> 00:41:04.989
but once the light on that craft turned green,

00:41:05.409 --> 00:41:07.949
everything goes blank for all five of us. I've

00:41:07.949 --> 00:41:10.550
seen a lot of things I can't explain, apparently

00:41:10.550 --> 00:41:13.230
at those lake, in particular at that lake. There

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:18.469
he said it. At huge discounts. And that's why

00:41:18.469 --> 00:41:21.250
we like it so much. I love that he's like, yeah,

00:41:21.250 --> 00:41:23.429
my parents will love it here. We see so much

00:41:23.429 --> 00:41:26.590
weird stuff. We got, yeah, we got roofied by

00:41:26.590 --> 00:41:33.070
an 18 inch pyramid. But nothing else has ever

00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:35.349
affected me like this. I don't know what happened,

00:41:35.349 --> 00:41:37.849
but every time I think about it, I feel this

00:41:37.849 --> 00:41:41.969
intense fear and I don't know why. I'm planning

00:41:41.969 --> 00:41:48.039
our summer vacation. That's just wow. Yeah. Just

00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:52.639
because this happened there. There's a lot of

00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.059
theories about what black triangles are. The

00:41:56.059 --> 00:42:00.719
big one that people talk about is the F. Oh god.

00:42:01.059 --> 00:42:03.239
I don't know why I decided to not write this

00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:08.000
down and just say I would remember it. F35? I

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.380
thought it was the B52 that looks like it. Is

00:42:10.380 --> 00:42:14.880
it B52? B52. No, that's definitely not it. No,

00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:19.860
F -35. F -35. F -35, okay. Yeah, F -35. That,

00:42:20.579 --> 00:42:24.099
if it is military, a lot of it is explained away

00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:28.639
by being that. Obviously, like the last guy said.

00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.360
And the guy who was really obsessed with the

00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.719
aluminum. One of them said it could either be

00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:37.039
aliens or it's the military. One of the options

00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.619
is that it's extraterrestrial. One of the things

00:42:40.619 --> 00:42:42.800
that I really wanted to cover with the black

00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.400
triangles is the theory that these are in fact

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.300
terrestrial. There's a lot of researchers that

00:42:50.300 --> 00:42:55.500
do link it back to terrestrial as well as military

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:58.539
operation. One witness that viewed it through

00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:01.500
a rifle scope, that being a black triangle, and

00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:05.219
identified an English labeled rescue access panel

00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:09.179
as it flew over. Another witness decided to fire

00:43:09.179 --> 00:43:12.099
a couple rounds into one from his fishing boat,

00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.639
you know, as you do, not just shooting at UFOs,

00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.320
but also when you go fishing, you just have a

00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.559
few beers and have a gun and then you just shoot

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.780
into the air, whether or not there's a... Yeah,

00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:25.260
sometimes the fishing rod is just not working.

00:43:25.420 --> 00:43:27.900
So you got to... have other means of doing your

00:43:27.900 --> 00:43:31.079
work couple in the water couple in the air yeah

00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:35.000
hey from the stories triangles are coming from

00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.739
both directions yeah it's true only to have someone

00:43:39.739 --> 00:43:42.940
stick their head out of the black triangle and

00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:46.960
quit shooting at us you idiot or something like

00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:51.039
that And then, shortly thereafter, a helicopter

00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.940
flew past and took pictures of the guy in the

00:43:53.940 --> 00:43:56.440
boat. I'm glad they didn't yell at him, too.

00:43:59.300 --> 00:44:04.179
And see, if I picture that scenario, I'm picturing

00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:07.239
a zeppelin or something along those lines that's

00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.619
moving very slowly through the air that has the

00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:13.860
window ability to be like, hey, you stop that,

00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:19.449
you jackass. Not like a black triangle scenario.

00:44:20.050 --> 00:44:23.210
Also frequently spotted around military bases,

00:44:23.409 --> 00:44:26.010
which I think is a fun fact about them, which

00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:28.610
could also point to the fact that they're terrestrial.

00:44:28.969 --> 00:44:31.530
The Southern Illinois sightings occurred within

00:44:31.530 --> 00:44:35.030
one or two miles of Scott Air Force Base, home

00:44:35.030 --> 00:44:37.989
to the U .S. Air Mobility Command, which coordinates

00:44:37.989 --> 00:44:40.750
all global transportation for American troops.

00:44:41.019 --> 00:44:43.820
The Hudson Valley sightings happened in close

00:44:43.820 --> 00:44:47.440
proximity to Stewart Air Force Base, and Mellon

00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.820
has interviewed, which is a guy that writes about

00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:52.260
black triangle UFOs, I should have put that in

00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:55.219
here better, but he interviewed multiple Persian

00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:57.960
Gulf veterans who witnessed triangular craft

00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.219
near sensitive military operations. Quote, an

00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:03.920
adversary planning a future attack would want

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.539
to know every inch of the battlefield, he says,

00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.980
alluding that they are ours. Not ours. but, you

00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:14.780
know, military -owned terrestrial craft. And

00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:17.179
although the US government has largely stayed

00:45:17.179 --> 00:45:19.599
silent on the matter, it's common knowledge that

00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.280
the Air Force has experimented with triangular

00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.940
and V -shaped aircraft for decades, including

00:45:24.940 --> 00:45:29.599
the B -2 Spirit Stealth Bomber and the F -117

00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.000
Nighthawk, so we're both wrong, and possibly

00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.929
others kept under wraps. Sightings near the clandestine

00:45:35.929 --> 00:45:39.329
spy plane test facility in Area 51 in Nevada

00:45:39.329 --> 00:45:42.269
may indeed be connected to test flights of some

00:45:42.269 --> 00:45:45.829
of these crafts. And don't shoot the messenger.

00:45:46.369 --> 00:45:49.429
I know this isn't the greatest source, but I

00:45:49.429 --> 00:45:52.590
do know as well that Whitley Strieber is someone

00:45:52.590 --> 00:45:56.469
who has suggested as well that some UFOs may

00:45:56.469 --> 00:45:59.250
be operated by military forces as well rather

00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:02.719
than extraterrestrial beings. Strieber has discussed

00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.619
in interviews and his writings that the possibility

00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:08.179
that certain UFO sightings might involve highly

00:46:08.179 --> 00:46:11.059
advanced human -made technology, particularly

00:46:11.059 --> 00:46:14.159
secret military or government aircraft. He has

00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.599
speculated that some of the UFO phenomena could

00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.679
be related to classified military projects, including

00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.320
the possibility of black ops or experimental

00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.119
aircraft developed by the military. I do know

00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.599
that in his book, Munion, I believe it is, and

00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.380
I am going off memory right now. so don't hold

00:46:31.380 --> 00:46:34.099
me exactly to it. That's like his only book,

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:38.539
so just go with it. No, he does have those fiction

00:46:38.539 --> 00:46:41.679
books that he wrote. All of them are technically

00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.139
fiction. He's got to get his episode soon. Yeah,

00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.679
he really does. And he does explain in detail

00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:54.179
sightings that he does believe are humans that

00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:57.300
are abducting him, which has a totally different

00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:01.860
implication outside of extraterrestrial abductions.

00:47:01.980 --> 00:47:04.760
But then you get into things if you look at it.

00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.000
And this really needs to be an episode, too,

00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.840
because you get into who was it Roosevelt that

00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:15.099
it is said that he made a contract with extraterrestrials

00:47:15.099 --> 00:47:19.230
to allow them to abduct? humans. Yeah FDR. Or

00:47:19.230 --> 00:47:21.530
was it Eisenhower? It's one of the two. It's

00:47:21.530 --> 00:47:23.829
one of those. It's right around World War II

00:47:23.829 --> 00:47:26.369
so it's one of those two. Yeah so and that's

00:47:26.369 --> 00:47:29.010
another episode to do as well maybe even a mini

00:47:29.010 --> 00:47:31.449
I don't know how much information is out there

00:47:31.449 --> 00:47:34.590
on that but it's all something to think about

00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:38.659
and that's Pretty much all I have on this I just

00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:41.480
I really wanted to cover the human aspect of

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.440
the black triangles and also I like back triangles

00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.659
and I only learned just recently that black triangles

00:47:47.659 --> 00:47:51.500
were angles and not pyramids so it also was something

00:47:51.500 --> 00:47:53.880
that kind of blew my mind and I figured I needed

00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.239
to look more into this in the concept of being

00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.079
a triangle and not a pyramid yeah and I think

00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.360
a fun thing to add to this Chelsea is government

00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.699
logos secretly hiding this technology in it The

00:48:05.699 --> 00:48:08.960
first one that's not that great is look up NASA's

00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.280
logo. Does NASA even exist anymore? Let's not

00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.260
worry about that. With that weird boomerang -y

00:48:16.260 --> 00:48:19.239
shape to it. But yeah, that's not there for no

00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.340
reason. The even more fun one, Chelsea, is Space

00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:26.780
Force logo. Is that Serpo? Space Force? Oh yeah,

00:48:27.059 --> 00:48:31.329
that's a black triangle. Yeah. So that brings

00:48:31.329 --> 00:48:34.349
just as many questions to mind as to why are

00:48:34.349 --> 00:48:37.010
they putting a black triangle into their logo

00:48:37.010 --> 00:48:39.570
like that. Because that is what's been described

00:48:39.570 --> 00:48:43.070
to us basically every time. That is, that is

00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:45.429
exactly how it would, and then it has that even

00:48:45.429 --> 00:48:48.150
the little star in the middle like was explained

00:48:48.150 --> 00:48:50.730
on some of them. Yeah, and the Space Force is

00:48:50.730 --> 00:48:53.429
the newest arm of the military that was founded

00:48:53.429 --> 00:48:56.190
under Donald Trump's first term. Oh wow. And

00:48:56.190 --> 00:48:59.590
also ran into some controversy because a Netflix

00:48:59.590 --> 00:49:04.030
show got greenlit before Space Force the military

00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:06.780
arm was created. and the Netflix show was called

00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:09.059
Space Force, and they got to retain the rights

00:49:09.059 --> 00:49:11.300
because they were doing it before Space Force

00:49:11.300 --> 00:49:13.800
was created, so there's a series that's like

00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.960
two seasons long with Steve Carell. Yeah, Steve

00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.280
Carell. It's about Space Force, but it's not

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.099
related because it was cream -lit before it was

00:49:22.099 --> 00:49:25.039
created, because the truth is stranger than fiction,

00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:28.599
so. Yeah. Love that. And yeah, was I going to

00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.400
add anything else? I think I had something to

00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.639
add, but then I forgot. It must not have been

00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.380
that important. Probably not. Yeah, that's what

00:49:36.380 --> 00:49:38.900
I have on the black triangles. Awesome. And thank

00:49:38.900 --> 00:49:40.719
you for that, Chelsea. Gave us a few different

00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.139
ideas for what we're doing for future episodes,

00:49:43.420 --> 00:49:45.780
too. Not that we ever have a shortage of episodes.

00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.980
Nope. But in any event, I have been Taylor. You're

00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:51.940
with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank

00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:53.380
you all for listening and we'll see you next

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