WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.319 This is old news, important news nonetheless. 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.620 So this article is from Wired from September 00:00:06.620 --> 00:00:11.740 20th, 2023, 3 20 p .m. And this is the gruesome 00:00:11.740 --> 00:00:15.019 story of how Neuralynx monkeys actually died. 00:00:15.380 --> 00:00:18.370 Is it old age? Don't ruin the article. Did they 00:00:18.370 --> 00:00:20.929 telekinetically bring things down upon themselves? 00:00:21.269 --> 00:00:23.570 You know that this is going to have a good end 00:00:23.570 --> 00:00:26.750 to it because it's Elon Musk. Elon Musk and monkeys. 00:00:26.910 --> 00:00:30.030 What's not to like? Exactly. That's what we're 00:00:30.030 --> 00:00:32.289 all thinking going into this. I don't know who 00:00:32.289 --> 00:00:34.789 wrote this. Nowhere does it say who wrote it. 00:00:34.789 --> 00:00:38.570 Oh, yeah. It was the monkeys. Drev, Mero, Tra, 00:00:38.829 --> 00:00:41.289 and Del Cameron. They're right before the date. 00:00:41.409 --> 00:00:43.789 Those are monkey names if I've ever heard monkey 00:00:43.789 --> 00:00:48.299 names. It's true. Fresh allegations of potential 00:00:48.299 --> 00:00:51.020 security fraud have been leveled at Elon Musk 00:00:51.020 --> 00:00:53.740 over statements he recently made regarding the 00:00:53.740 --> 00:00:56.520 deaths of primates used for research at Neuralink, 00:00:56.700 --> 00:00:59.539 his biotech startup. Letters sent this afternoon 00:00:59.539 --> 00:01:02.179 to top officials at the U .S. Securities and 00:01:02.179 --> 00:01:05.760 Exchange Commission, SEC, by a medical ethics 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.760 group, called on the agency to investigate Musk's 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.079 claim that monkeys who died during the trials 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.879 at the company were terminally ill and did not 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.780 die as a result of neurolingue implants. They 00:01:16.780 --> 00:01:19.840 claim, based on veterinary records, that complications 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.439 with the implant procedures led to their deaths. 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.780 Musk first acknowledged the deaths of the macaques? 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.159 Yeah. On September 10th, in a reply to a user 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.000 on a social networking app, Axe, formally Twitter, 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.180 I hate how you have to say that now. You know, 00:01:34.180 --> 00:01:36.939 you can just say Twitter. Yeah, I quit. He denied 00:01:36.939 --> 00:01:39.260 that any of the deaths were a result of a Neuralink 00:01:39.260 --> 00:01:42.180 implant and said the researchers had taken care 00:01:42.180 --> 00:01:45.180 of two select subjects who were already close 00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:48.480 to death. Relatedly, in a presentation last fall, 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:51.060 Musk claimed that Neuralink's animal testing 00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:54.340 was never exploratory, but was instead conducted 00:01:54.340 --> 00:01:57.540 to confirm fully formed scientific hypothesis 00:01:57.540 --> 00:02:01.379 we are extremely careful he said assumption right 00:02:01.379 --> 00:02:03.920 that he was extremely careful yeah that's why 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.459 you don't need to regulate almost dead of monkeys 00:02:06.459 --> 00:02:11.159 yeah exactly he's very careful yeah oh yeah public 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.039 records reviewed by wired and interviews conducted 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.439 with a former neurolink employee and a current 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.319 researcher at the university of california davis 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.000 primate center paint a wholly different picture 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.530 of neurolinks animal research the documents These 00:02:24.530 --> 00:02:27.250 records include reginary records first made public 00:02:27.250 --> 00:02:30.090 last year that contain gruesome portrayals of 00:02:30.090 --> 00:02:32.729 suffering reportedly endured by as many as a 00:02:32.729 --> 00:02:35.389 dozen of Neuralink's primate subjects, all of 00:02:35.389 --> 00:02:38.169 whom needed to be euthanized. These records could 00:02:38.169 --> 00:02:41.590 serve as the basis for any potential SEC probe 00:02:41.590 --> 00:02:44.550 into Musk's comments about Neuralink, which has 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:47.370 faced multiple federal investigations as the 00:02:47.370 --> 00:02:50.009 company moves towards its goal of releasing the 00:02:50.009 --> 00:02:52.270 first commercially available brain -computer 00:02:52.270 --> 00:02:55.430 interface for humans. Letters to the SEC come 00:02:55.430 --> 00:02:57.629 from the Physicians Committee for Responsible 00:02:57.629 --> 00:03:00.990 Medicine, a non -profit striving to abolish live 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:03.909 animal testing. The group claims that Musk's 00:03:03.909 --> 00:03:06.289 comments about the primate deaths were misleading, 00:03:06.530 --> 00:03:09.110 that he knew them to be false, and the investors 00:03:09.110 --> 00:03:11.770 deserve to hear the truth about the safety and 00:03:11.770 --> 00:03:14.469 thus the marketability of Neuralink's speculative 00:03:14.469 --> 00:03:16.849 product. They are claiming they are going to 00:03:16.849 --> 00:03:19.569 put a safe device on the market and that's why 00:03:19.569 --> 00:03:22.330 you should invest. That was in quotes. And also 00:03:22.330 --> 00:03:25.039 not community. Yeah, most importantly thing or 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.360 is it yeah. Oh, yeah, that's more important than 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.560 profit in this situation and monkeys I was supposed 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.780 to be in quotes. So I'm gonna follow the quotes 00:03:32.780 --> 00:03:36.199 by right monkeys unionize. You should I mean 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:40.000 if anybody here need it too, but the monkeys 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.419 need it more for all you monkeys listening unionize 00:03:44.419 --> 00:03:48.800 and writing who leads the Physicians Committee's 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.539 research into animal testing alternatives tells 00:03:51.539 --> 00:03:54.460 Wired, quote, and we see his lie as a way to 00:03:54.460 --> 00:03:56.919 whitewash what happened in these exploratory 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.240 studies, end quote. Musk posts on Twitter about 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.000 Neuralynx monkeys have been viewed more than 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.939 760 ,000 times, all of us. The way I read that 00:04:06.939 --> 00:04:09.860 number, that made me proud. I usually can't do 00:04:09.860 --> 00:04:12.740 that. And the Physicians Committee notes in its 00:04:12.740 --> 00:04:16.920 letters that when the SEC charged Musk with securities 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.800 fraud related to Tesla in 2018, the agency argued 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.339 that his account was a source of investor news. 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.720 The SEC has jurisdiction over the sales of any 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.339 securities, including those offered by privately 00:04:29.339 --> 00:04:32.180 held companies such as Neuralink. Recent filings 00:04:32.180 --> 00:04:34.939 show the company has raised more than $280 million 00:04:34.939 --> 00:04:38.240 from outside investors. The SEC declined Wires' 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.720 request to comment on the Physicians Committee's 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.019 letters. Neuralink did not respond to specific 00:04:43.019 --> 00:04:45.720 questions about Musk's claims. That was hard 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.259 to say. Putting an S on the end of Musk is just 00:04:48.259 --> 00:04:50.480 a tongue twister. Or request for comment about 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.660 the physician's committee's allegations. Within 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:55.639 a year, it's not funny. It's a real tongue twister, 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.699 I agree. Musk's. Within a year of its reported 00:04:59.699 --> 00:05:03.060 founding in March 2017, Neuralink acquired a 00:05:03.060 --> 00:05:05.800 large number of animal subjects to test its brain 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.399 chimp implant. Brain chip. That was not intended 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:10.060 that I said chip. Yeah, brain chip in the chimp. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.939 from september 2017 until late 2020 yeah by chance 00:05:14.939 --> 00:05:16.639 could you have been misreading it the whole time 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:18.720 and they're actually putting monkeys inside of 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.480 humans brains i wouldn't mind i would actually 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:25.160 brain chimp for that yeah maybe brain chimp now 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.660 they're gonna go crazy in there what a twist 00:05:27.660 --> 00:05:31.060 this article really took a turn you just gotta 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:35.449 read it right From September 2017 until late 00:05:35.449 --> 00:05:38.389 2020, the company's experiments were aided by 00:05:38.389 --> 00:05:40.810 the staff of the California National Primate 00:05:40.810 --> 00:05:45.370 Research Center, CNPRC, a federally funded bio 00:05:45.370 --> 00:05:49.170 research facility at UC Davis. Bus promise was 00:05:49.170 --> 00:06:02.870 to revolutionize... an engineering implant that 00:06:02.870 --> 00:06:05.509 would allow human brains to communicate wirelessly 00:06:05.509 --> 00:06:08.170 with artificial devices, even each other. UC 00:06:08.170 --> 00:06:11.449 Davis veterinary records cited by the Physicians 00:06:11.449 --> 00:06:13.529 Committee, which Wired also obtained through 00:06:13.529 --> 00:06:16.110 a subsequent California public records request, 00:06:16.389 --> 00:06:18.910 chronicle a battery of complications that developed 00:06:18.910 --> 00:06:21.949 following procedures involving electrodes being 00:06:21.949 --> 00:06:24.689 surgically implanted into monkeys' brains. The 00:06:24.689 --> 00:06:27.370 complications included bloody diarrhea, partial 00:06:27.370 --> 00:06:30.589 paralysis, and cerebral edema. edema a condition 00:06:30.589 --> 00:06:33.930 colloquially known as brain swelling for example 00:06:33.930 --> 00:06:37.089 oh man trigger warning in an experimental surgery 00:06:37.089 --> 00:06:40.149 that took place in december 2019 performed to 00:06:40.149 --> 00:06:43.269 determine the survivability of an implant an 00:06:43.269 --> 00:06:45.810 internal part of the device broke off while being 00:06:45.810 --> 00:06:49.089 implanted overnight researchers observed the 00:06:49.089 --> 00:06:52.790 monkey identified only as animal 20 this is so 00:06:52.790 --> 00:06:55.990 sad by uc davis scratching at the surgical site 00:06:55.990 --> 00:06:58.490 which emitted a bloody discharge and yanking 00:06:58.509 --> 00:07:01.449 a connector that eventually I'm just gonna move 00:07:01.449 --> 00:07:03.689 on I think we get the idea here I don't know 00:07:03.689 --> 00:07:06.389 that I can finish that additional veterinary 00:07:06.389 --> 00:07:08.810 reports show the condition of a female monkey 00:07:08.810 --> 00:07:11.670 called animal 15 during the months leading up 00:07:11.670 --> 00:07:15.610 to her death in March 2019 days after her implant 00:07:15.610 --> 00:07:18.329 surgery she began to press her head against the 00:07:18.329 --> 00:07:21.269 floor for no apparent reason a symptom of pain 00:07:21.269 --> 00:07:24.529 or infection a record safe no apparent reason 00:07:24.529 --> 00:07:27.389 other than the implant probably is the reason 00:07:27.389 --> 00:07:30.779 definitely I'm not a doctor though, so yeah staff 00:07:30.779 --> 00:07:33.420 observed that though She was uncomfortable picking 00:07:33.420 --> 00:07:35.980 and pulling at her implant until it bled She 00:07:35.980 --> 00:07:38.279 would often lie at the foot of her cage and spend 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.220 time holding hands with her roommate Animal 15 00:07:41.220 --> 00:07:44.100 began to lose coordination and staff observed 00:07:44.100 --> 00:07:46.680 that she would shake uncontrollably when she 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.120 saw lab workers condition deteriorated for months 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.180 until the staff finally euthanized her and necropsy 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:55.939 report indicates that she had bleeding in her 00:07:55.939 --> 00:08:04.560 brain and that the neural I just want to make 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:07.180 this sure that I'm getting this right. They could 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:10.720 have removed the neural link, but they euthanized 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.019 her. And I'm not saying that would fix anything, 00:08:13.100 --> 00:08:16.079 but maybe try that before killing an animal that 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.699 you've decided to just number and not even call 00:08:18.699 --> 00:08:21.959 the species that it is. Yeah, it's just animal. 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.420 I'm gonna just skip past that. I think we get 00:08:24.420 --> 00:08:27.160 the idea of the animal. cruelty that's going 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.360 on there. Just from that little brief section, 00:08:29.459 --> 00:08:32.379 there's more it goes into. I'm guessing seeing 00:08:32.379 --> 00:08:35.379 as how you had an animal in the 20s, there's 00:08:35.379 --> 00:08:38.179 at least 20 different studies that did not go 00:08:38.179 --> 00:08:39.019 well in this scenario. I would assume all of 00:08:39.019 --> 00:08:41.299 them went through something. Yeah. If the SEC 00:08:41.299 --> 00:08:44.340 does investigate Musk's comments, it would mark 00:08:44.340 --> 00:08:47.360 at least the third federal probe linked to Neuralynx 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.820 animal testing in December 2022. Routers reported 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:53.539 that the U .S. Department of Agriculture's Office 00:08:53.539 --> 00:08:55.590 of Inspector General had launched a probe probe 00:08:55.590 --> 00:08:58.169 into Neuralink's treatment of some animal test 00:08:58.169 --> 00:09:01.389 subjects. In February 2023, the U .S. Department 00:09:01.389 --> 00:09:03.990 of Transportation opened an investigation into 00:09:03.990 --> 00:09:06.850 Neuralink over allegations of unsafe transport 00:09:06.850 --> 00:09:11.250 of antibiotic -resistant pathogens. These investigations 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:13.690 followed the U .S. Food and Drug Administration 00:09:13.690 --> 00:09:16.509 initially rejecting Neuralink's application in 00:09:16.509 --> 00:09:20.090 early 2022 for approval to conduct in -human 00:09:20.090 --> 00:09:23.210 clinical trials. According to routers, the agency's 00:09:23.210 --> 00:09:26.230 major concern involved the device's lithium battery, 00:09:26.450 --> 00:09:28.929 as well the possibility that the implant's wires 00:09:28.929 --> 00:09:31.509 might migrate to other parts of the brain. This 00:09:31.509 --> 00:09:34.750 May, the FDA gave the company approval for human 00:09:34.750 --> 00:09:37.230 trials. Those human trials could begin soon. 00:09:37.529 --> 00:09:39.570 Yesterday, I mean, I'm just gonna skip to the 00:09:39.570 --> 00:09:43.539 end of the article. Oh, we're done. Hey, look 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:46.740 at that! We know by this time that it has been 00:09:46.740 --> 00:09:49.120 implanted into humans, obviously. This is an 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.220 old article. Chelsea, when you say you have sad 00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:54.580 news, you don't pull the punch. I don't even 00:09:54.580 --> 00:09:57.899 know that I said I had sad news. I just wanted 00:09:57.899 --> 00:10:00.779 to bring it up in light of what's going on with 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:03.159 Elon. I've been seeing it pop up here and there 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.000 that he has done some pretty horrific animal 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.299 cruelty. So I thought, hey, what better time 00:10:08.299 --> 00:10:11.759 to share this than now? Because I didn't actually, 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.419 I mean, I guess you really thought about it, 00:10:14.419 --> 00:10:17.299 obviously. There's going to be some animal cruelty 00:10:17.299 --> 00:10:19.980 in the testing. Well, what person doesn't have 00:10:19.980 --> 00:10:23.200 animal cruelty and murder of innocent chimpanzees 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.759 in their past? Most, actually. I think pretty 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.019 much everybody. Yeah, it doesn't, right? Yeah, 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.799 I find it so in a taken a back way, fascinating. 00:10:33.929 --> 00:10:37.789 how this guy is like the envy of so much of the 00:10:37.789 --> 00:10:41.029 conspiracy world. If you told somebody who is 00:10:41.029 --> 00:10:43.690 a conspiracist 10 years ago that there's this 00:10:43.690 --> 00:10:47.149 guy trying to put implants in people's brains 00:10:47.149 --> 00:10:50.450 and it is killing monkeys left and right, he's 00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:52.470 the bad guy. Like everybody's gonna know he's 00:10:52.470 --> 00:10:55.460 the bad guy. Can you imagine like Nostradamus 00:10:55.460 --> 00:10:59.200 prophesizing what's going on with Elon? But just 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.779 like this guy has so many bad things attached 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.200 to him and I just don't get how the conspiracy 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.779 world isn't catching on to this guy. They've 00:11:07.779 --> 00:11:11.100 been terrified of Soros for decades. Musk just 00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:14.240 did that times 50 and they're not worried. So 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:16.399 I just find it very hard to say. And one more 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.720 thing, I just have to add a conspiracy theory 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.740 that I'm just making up on the spot here. Oh, 00:11:20.740 --> 00:11:23.220 I love that. So do not take any Credence in it 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:25.340 it might it probably will trump and musk have 00:11:25.340 --> 00:11:27.279 both decided. They're very anti -migrant They're 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.919 taking them to Guantanamo Bay where we don't 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:32.879 know anything that goes on there monkeys He was 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:35.480 looking to test this on human subjects. I wonder 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.340 if we can put two and two together I have more 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:39.919 to say but let's just end that there. No you 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:44.769 keep going No, you can't top it. Okay, that's 00:11:44.769 --> 00:11:47.909 okay then. And in any event, you guys got 48 00:11:47.909 --> 00:11:51.149 hours. Please try to avoid the ever creeping 00:11:51.149 --> 00:11:53.889 gaze of this billionaire that kills monkeys. 00:11:54.169 --> 00:11:56.970 Not personally, I don't think, but kills monkeys. 00:11:57.190 --> 00:11:59.909 And not only does he kill monkeys, doesn't even 00:11:59.909 --> 00:12:01.669 give them a name. Doesn't even give them a name. 00:12:01.950 --> 00:12:04.059 Just calls them animal. Yeah. That was sad. That 00:12:04.059 --> 00:12:05.600 was even more sad. And let's not get too far 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.299 into that, because I have thoughts on that, but 00:12:07.299 --> 00:12:09.059 we'll just move on. We'll see you in 48 hours. 00:12:09.259 --> 00:12:11.480 Bye. Yeah, okay. Okay, bye. It was best to do 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.039 that. Mostly because I was going to say it's 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:14.620 probably best if you're going to murder them 00:12:14.620 --> 00:12:19.440 to not name them. That's true. But we don't need 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.860 that in there. That would be why he didn't give 00:12:22.860 --> 00:12:26.120 him a name, so... That and he's pretty terrible 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.440 at naming things. Maybe those were names for 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:35.039 his kids that he never got to give. Maybe it 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:35.740 was the name.