1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,320 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where sometimes we take multiculturalism seriously. 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Sometimes. 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,960 And Chelsea, this may in fact be one of those times, as we are recording this right around 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,760 the Chinese New Year, Xinyan Kuala. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,240 Do you just say Xinyan? 7 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:27,240 Xinyan, yes. 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,960 Let's go celebrate, which is from Xinyan. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Oh, good. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,960 That's just what I was thinking. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,600 I think there's so many advertisements for them right now. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,600 It's ridiculous. 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Oh, yeah. 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,600 They're coming to Vancouver, I think. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,600 They're pushing cards. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,040 I'm so tempted. 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,240 Every time I see an ad, I'm like, I should just go and see what the hype is about. 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,520 There was actually a contest on one of our local newspapers for free tickets. 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,080 And I was like, eh, I don't really want to go. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Yeah. 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 I'd go if it was free, if I want to go. 22 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Maybe. 23 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,680 It depends on how I felt that moment before going. 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,720 I know I'm always torn on that question, but I can't give them money. 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,360 That is kind of why I withhold that. 26 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Yeah, exactly. 27 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Chelsea, I don't know if you know this, but we are entering the year of the snake in Chinese 28 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,680 zodiac. 29 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,320 And snakes in Chinese mythology and culture hold like a slightly different relationship 30 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:19,760 than they do in the rest of the world, where it's like snakes bat, snakes dangerous, stay 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,760 away from snake. 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,720 There, it's kind of, they are a wise creature. 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,520 And more importantly, they are kind of related to dragons and how they view dragons because 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,720 they kind of look like them. 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,880 They shed the skin. 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,000 They are a different creature because of that. 37 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,480 I decided, you know what we're going to do to celebrate the Chinese New Year? 38 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,080 We are going to do an episode on the sky serpents. 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Yay. 40 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Sky serpents are snakes or elongated serpentine dragons that appear to float or fly in the 41 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,880 air. 42 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,560 They typically move in an undulating fashion as if there are sea serpents of the air. 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,640 They're not the same as ordinary flying dragons because they manage to fly without wings and 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,840 like most Asian dragons that have the ability to fly. 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Some sky serpents are seen to have different colors, textures than other sky serpents which 46 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,560 are sighted all around the world. 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,640 I find this really interesting that so many cultures have some type of mythological flying 48 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:13,500 snake like creature. 49 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:18,520 As I was just talking about in Chinese myth, there is the Chinese dragon, which is completely 50 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 different looking than our dragons in the West, so it's kind of funny that they ended 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,520 up with the same name. 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Really? 53 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Where they are symbols of imperial authority, wisdom, and good fortune, and they're believed 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,520 to control the weather, particularly rains and storms. 55 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,360 In Mesoamerica, the Incan, the Mayans, and the Aztecs had Quetzalcoatl and Cukokin, whose 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 role are creator gods and bringer of knowledge. 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,240 In Hindu mythology, they have Ritra, which is a serpent like demon who represents drought 58 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,240 and chaos. 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,440 In Greek mythology, we have Typhon, which is a monstrous, serpentine giant with multiple 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,120 dragon heads and wings. 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,040 In Aboriginal culture, they have a rainbow serpent, which is a powerful creator being 62 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,320 associated with water, rain, and fertility. 63 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,160 In North America, the native peoples had horned serpents, which are dragon-like creatures 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,040 found in myths of many different groups. 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,520 The Cherokees, the Choctaw, the Sioux, it's both a protector and a dangerous force, sometimes 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,480 seen as a guardian of sacred knowledge. 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:16,200 In Africa, they have the Aido Huedo, I think I'm saying that right, which is a giant, 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 giant rainbow serpent that supports the world. 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,760 In Mesopotamian mythology, they have Tiamat, which is a primordial goddess of the ocean. 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,080 In Slavic, they have the Zmei Gorinich. 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,200 In Japanese mythology, they have Brugin, which is a dragon king. 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,920 And in Celtic mythology, they have Piest, which is a symbol of chaos and is often defeated 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,440 by heroes and myths. 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Interesting. 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,800 There's a ton everywhere where they're saying there's these flying snakes in the sky. 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Can I just ask, you said that Chinese dragons are much different than what we would think 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,680 of a dragon. 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,960 What is it just the serpentine qualities that it has? 79 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,960 That's part of it. 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Asian dragons are a lot more snake-like. 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,360 They're longer. 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,640 They also do talk and are very wise. 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Asian dragons. 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,640 They talk. 85 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Oh yeah. 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Whereas opposed to like a European dragon would be like the four-legged one with wings 87 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,680 that breathe fire. 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,480 I thought it was interesting when I was in China, they build their buildings with holes 89 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,040 in the middle for dragons to fly through. 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,040 Not all of them. 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Not all. 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,040 No. 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,160 But there are a lot of buildings with holes in the middle for them to fly through. 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,680 And it's also a doubles for good luck. 95 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Maybe it has to do with the dragon being able to fly through that it brings. 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,720 Well, he's probably a lot nicer if he doesn't have to fly through a building. 97 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Oh yeah. 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,440 He's very grateful that they made way for him instead of him having to go around. 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,880 I think I would like that too. 100 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,240 It's nice to be acknowledged. 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Oh totally. 102 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,400 And I have another dragon story. 103 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,280 Funny how many dragon stories I have. 104 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:46,280 I've been in a dragonsten. 105 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,280 Real. 106 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,280 In Poland. 107 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:49,280 Oh okay. 108 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:50,440 Sorry, I thought you were talking about the show. 109 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,440 No. 110 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Okay. 111 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,440 That was a flop. 112 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,440 I didn't even make it on the show. 113 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,520 I don't want to talk about it. 114 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,360 In Poland, I went into a castle that had a dragonsten underneath. 115 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,280 I don't remember dragons, but in Krakow they have a dragon. 116 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,280 Interesting. 117 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,280 I went in there. 118 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,280 To say I went in his house. 119 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:07,280 But there. 120 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:08,280 I went in his home. 121 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:09,280 Yeah. 122 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:10,280 I don't think he was a Chinese dragon. 123 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,400 I should make it clear too. 124 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,960 There weirdly is an actual flying snake out there that we're not going to be talking about. 125 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,960 I didn't want to know that. 126 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,560 I didn't want to know that. 127 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 It glides through the air from trees. 128 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,240 How would it get into the air? 129 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,240 It just glides. 130 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,240 It gets up. 131 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,240 It climbs the tree. 132 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,640 No, it climbs the tree and then it like throws itself out and it just glides. 133 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,960 That son of a bitch. 134 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,280 Why would nature do this to us? 135 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:34,280 Because nature is terrifying. 136 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:35,280 And it's right behind you. 137 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:36,280 Look out. 138 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:37,920 I hate it when nature does this. 139 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,320 It's probably in fucking Australia too. 140 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Maybe that's why they want to fucking extinct some species. 141 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,000 They have all the scary things. 142 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,520 We don't save animals here in Australia. 143 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,240 They should have put that on the list. 144 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Flying snakes and then in brackets perfectly abundant. 145 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,480 There's too many. 146 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,400 They should fly into the fire. 147 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Yeah. 148 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Okay, okay. 149 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960 Yeah, in Australia they have that kind of bird that's known for spreading forest fires 150 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,720 to catch prey too. 151 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,840 I think it's a harpy eagle that does that. 152 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:08,840 Yeah. 153 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,600 You just say a herpy eagle? 154 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Harpy. 155 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Harpy eagle. 156 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Okay. 157 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,080 It's like this is so getting out of hand. 158 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Fuck them Australia. 159 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Australia's like a different place. 160 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,880 It is half made up. 161 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,760 It's totally half made up. 162 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Okay. 163 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Enough of Australia. 164 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Like I was saying, many different groups have this built into their mythology, this 165 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,640 idea of a snake in the sky. 166 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,680 In Australia it's real, but no, I just said it's Australia. 167 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,640 I have no idea where it's from. 168 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,880 I stick to it as well. 169 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Okay. 170 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,040 Basically as long as people have been writing things down too, there have been people saying 171 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 they've seen flying snakes. 172 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,040 Outside of that one that we do know exists. 173 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,120 There's Egyptian tales of flying snakes which capture the curiosity of the Greek historian 174 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,000 Herodotus in 46CBC. 175 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,400 These winged Dracontes, I don't know how to say it because I don't speak any of the 176 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 languages from that time or area of the world. 177 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,000 It's Egyptian, right? 178 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,240 I don't know if he's writing it in Greek or in Egyptian though. 179 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:16,320 So Dracontes were said to live under Freikin sense or Boswellia trees in the Arabian desert. 180 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,320 To gather the incense the Arabians burned Styrix resin from the liquid dam bar tree 181 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,680 because the smoke drove the winged snakes away. 182 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Herodotus described the flying reptiles as small with very gated markings shaped like 183 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,040 a water snake but with wing like membranes like bat wings. 184 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,200 In Somali legends there's tale of a flying snake that hoarded precious stones attended 185 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 by a hundred reptilian guards. 186 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Once a horseman carried away a jewel from this bounty and was pursued by the reptile 187 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,160 army. 188 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Although the horseman escaped back to his tribe the snake warriors would not let up until 189 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,720 the jewel was returned. 190 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,440 And in fact there is mention of flying serpents in the Old Testament Chelsea. 191 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Isaiah 1429, this is a direct quote, do not rejoice all you of Philistia because the rod 192 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,240 that struck you is broken. 193 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,120 For out of the serpent's root will come a viper and its offspring will be a fiery flying 194 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,240 serpent. 195 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,560 And in Isaiah 36 the burden against the beasts of the south threw a land of trouble and 196 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,320 anguish from which came the lioness and the lion, the viper and the fiery flying serpent. 197 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,920 They will carry their riches on the backs of young donkeys and their treasures on the 198 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,400 humps of camels to a people who shall not profit. 199 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,720 These are going back pretty far references to these things. 200 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,960 Chelsea, I'm now going to go through some actual stories. 201 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,560 Historically from when I first find the stories to more current times. 202 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:38,560 Oh yeah, fantastic. 203 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,600 The first story I could find is the Flying Serpent of Henam. 204 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,720 It's an area in Essex. 205 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,720 It was published in 1669 by Peter Lillicrap of Hlarkinwell. 206 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,640 I love his name. 207 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Lillicrap, it is great. 208 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Yeah, I love that. 209 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,160 And it is perhaps the most famous of the Essex dragons. 210 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,360 The folklore recounts the story of a man who encountered the Flying Serpent while riding 211 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,600 on Lodge Farm at Henam on the Mount the previous year. 212 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,800 The serpent allegedly attacked his horse and prompting him to warn his neighbors about 213 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,920 the beast to ensure the safety of their cattle. 214 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Shortly after, two men claimed to have seen the creature describing it as eight or nine 215 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,800 feet long with large piercing eyes, two rows of very white and sharp teeth and two large 216 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,960 wings on its back. 217 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,600 A tale of a flying serpent that terrorized the residents of Saffron Walden in 1669 is 218 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,320 one that has been passed down through generations to cite numerous attempts locals were unable 219 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,640 to slay the beast. 220 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,200 The accounts of their sightings are so credible that many believe the creature's existence 221 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,920 was undeniable fact and the British library is believed to house the last remaining copy 222 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,720 of the original pamphlet detailing these events. 223 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Pamphlet, they were handing out pamphlets. 224 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Yeah, they had pamphlets about this guy. 225 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,080 What a good idea. 226 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Not enough people do pamphlets anymore. 227 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,960 No, it virtually extinct. 228 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,760 And now I don't generally like a pamphlet unless it's about a dragon sighting. 229 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Yeah, or it's a menu. 230 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,440 I love those two. 231 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,360 But I can't say I've ever got one about a dragon sighting. 232 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,600 They need to make a comeback. 233 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,600 I'm just... 234 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,600 It really... 235 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,600 Controversial opinion. 236 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,600 They need to make a comeback. 237 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,200 I didn't even know they were extinct, but they do need to make a comeback now. 238 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:20,240 In 1741, British Commodore George Anson anchored off the Panamanian island of Quibo, now called 239 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Cueba, I guess, I don't know how to say it, during his circumnavigation of the globe. 240 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,440 Their Spaniards informed Anson's crew that there was often found in the woods a most 241 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,240 mischievous serpent called the Flying Snake, which they said darted itself from the boughs 242 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,440 of trees on either man or beast that came within its reach and whose sting they believed 243 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,960 to be inevitable death. 244 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,880 James Churchward, a proponent of the Lost Continued of Mu, claimed that Quetzalcoatl, 245 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,360 the feathered serpent god of the Aztecs, was a real but rare animal residing in the swampy 246 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,640 deep unexplored forest of the Yucatan in Guatemala. 247 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Churchward describes the creature as the most venomous ever recorded, killing its victims 248 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,280 within two minutes. 249 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,440 Its head was broad, flat, and V-shaped like most venomous serpents. 250 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,520 He described Quetzalcoatl as having a body the size of a duck and a five foot long neck 251 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,760 covered in short hair-like feathers. 252 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,320 The body and the neck were off-white, thickly modeled with gray. 253 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,120 There was a tuft of short feathers in place of a tail. 254 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,960 Churchward's wings had long upper feathers and drooped like those of a bird of paradise 255 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,400 and had a prismatic sheen. 256 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Churchward wrote that the serpent was clumsy in flight, able to stay aloft for only a few 257 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,280 yards at a time. 258 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,280 That poor beast. 259 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Well, that's so funny. 260 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Remember that mothman sighting that the person said it was clumsy? 261 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Yeah. 262 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,360 I can't imagine seeing a creature like this with wings and I couldn't figure it out. 263 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 And a duck with a five foot long neck. 264 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Oh, hold on. 265 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,240 No, five feet? 266 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,240 That's big. 267 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Yeah. 268 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,280 He's like, he's have pretty big necks, but it's not five feet. 269 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Yeah, it's the body the size of a duck and a five foot long neck. 270 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,920 I would think that's a dragon. 271 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Probably. 272 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,920 I don't know what I think. 273 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:00,920 It's hard to say. 274 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Honestly. 275 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 If it's five feet and the body's the size of a duck, it's more snake than duck body. 276 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,240 It's more neck than anything else. 277 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,040 I'm picturing it and I feel like I wouldn't like it. 278 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,600 I feel like it would creep me out and I need to get out of there quick. 279 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,240 I wouldn't want it touching me. 280 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,720 I'm sure many kids in like kindergarten drew this thing as a giraffe accidentally, like 281 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,720 many times. 282 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Oh yeah. 283 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Either that or me. 284 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,720 An ostrich? 285 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Do ostriches have five feet long necks? 286 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,840 No, their legs are really long. 287 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,280 They have long necks. 288 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,280 They do have long necks. 289 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Giraffes? 290 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Giraffes aren't all neck though. 291 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,280 No, they have fairly big bodies. 292 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:39,320 And it's September 17th, 1833 edition, the Bengal Hercaru newspaper of Calcutta reported 293 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,600 alarming intelligence from the neighborhood of Fars. 294 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,640 It's unclear if this story was referring to a town in India or the province of Fars 295 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,640 in Persia. 296 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,200 A dragon-like fiery flying serpent had commandeered the main road through town, spraying deadly 297 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,320 venom on anyone who dared pass into devouring their corpses. 298 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,920 A posse of 40 men set out to battle the beast, but only two maintained confidence in their 299 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,000 incantations and ventured forward. 300 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,120 One man was immediately smoked by a pestilential blast from the serpent, which pounced upon 301 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,240 his remains and began devouring them. 302 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Commencing the fate of his comrade, the other man made a hasty retreat and informed the 303 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,880 remainder of the valiant band of 40 and fell the villagers of the failed expedition as 304 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,560 one paper of the day declared a likely cock and bull story. 305 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,720 July of 1868, this comes from the zoologist in Chile. 306 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,520 And I'm just trying to, they spelt chili. 307 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Is this the recent one? 308 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Copiapo. 309 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,920 No, this is 1868. 310 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Are you sure it's not another place? 311 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,920 Are you sure it's Chile? 312 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 It says chili with two eyes and copiapo. 313 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,560 Oh. 314 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,960 Okay, I guess it's just spelt wrong or they changed the spelling at some point. 315 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Maybe Chile was known as Chile. 316 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Chile. 317 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Yesterday, at about five o'clock in the afternoon, when the daily labors in this mine were over 318 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,320 and all the workmen were together awaiting their supper, we saw something coming through 319 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,680 the air from the side of the Ternera, a gigantic bird which had first sight, cooked for one 320 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:01,480 of the clouds, then partially darkening the atmosphere. 321 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Oh no. 322 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Exposing it to have been separated from the rest of the wind. 323 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Its course was northwest to southeast. 324 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Its flight rapid in a straight line. 325 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,040 As it was passing a short distance above our head, we could make out the strange formation 326 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,040 of its body. 327 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,840 Its immense wings were clothed with a grayish plumage. 328 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Its monstrous head was like that of a locus. 329 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Its eyes were wide open and shown like burning coals. 330 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,520 It seemed to be covered with something resembling the thick and stout bristles of a boar. 331 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,600 While on its body elongated like that from a serpent, we could only see brilliant scales 332 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,640 which clashed together with metallic sound as the strange animal turned its body in its 333 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,640 flight. 334 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,640 We could make out. 335 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,360 And then in 1873, there is apparently like a wave of sightings of flying serpents that 336 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,920 struck the US. 337 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,840 This came from North Texas Enterprise of Bonham in June 14th, 1873. 338 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Singular phenomenon. 339 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:55,040 A few days ago, a Mr. Harden residing some five or six miles east of this place saw something 340 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,400 resembling an enormous serpent floating in a cloud that was passing over his farm. 341 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Several parties of men and boys at work in the fields observed the same thing, then were 342 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,640 seriously frightened. 343 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,680 It seemed to be as large and as long as a telegraph pole. 344 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Was of a yellow striped color and seemed to float along without any effort. 345 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:18,160 They could see it coil itself up, turn over and thrust forward its huge head as if striking 346 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,360 at something, displaying the maneuvers of a genuine snake. 347 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,680 The cloud and serpent moved in an easterly direction and were seen by persons a few miles 348 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,440 this side of the honey grove. 349 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,240 The question is, what is it and where did it come from? 350 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,920 And then on June 27th of the same year, the monitor of Fort Scott broke the news about 351 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,920 a follow-up sighting in local skies. 352 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,880 A strange and remarkable phenomenon was observed at sunrise yesterday morning. 353 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,560 The sky was clear and the sun rose entirely unobscured. 354 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,240 When the disc of the sun was about halfway above the horizon, the form of a huge serpent, 355 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:54,400 apparently perfect in form, was plainly seen encircling it and it was visible for some 356 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,480 moments. 357 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,560 We have this statement from two reliable parties who witnessed the phenomenon and are willing, 358 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,520 if necessary, to make affidavits of their assertions. 359 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,700 We have two great respects for the sun to rise before it and therefore are innocent 360 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:11,280 of the authorship of the sea serpent of the sun, but we have all confidence in the credibility 361 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,320 of our witnesses. 362 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,800 What fearful portent is indicated in this wonderful and ominous phenomenon, we shall 363 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 join a Sunday school and await the solution. 364 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,680 What? 365 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,680 That was weird. 366 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,000 That is a weird way to end that. 367 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,360 The New York Times around, like they have all these articles that are coming out, came 368 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,800 out with something as well. 369 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:33,960 They close that same story with, it will soon be time for a national prohibitory liquor 370 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:41,400 law if this sort of thing is to continue as what they added. 371 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Then in 1897, a flying snake was spotted over Harpsville, South Carolina in the summer of 372 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,840 that year. 373 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,960 A local newspaper reported, the flying snake was seen near Newman Swamp by a Mr. Odom 374 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,480 on Sunday afternoon, say at six o'clock. 375 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,680 This is about 10 miles south of this place. 376 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Later, say at seven o'clock on the same day, it was seen by Mr. Henry Polson. 377 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,400 In Chesterfield County, 12 miles north of here, Mr. Polson says the monster was low 378 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,880 down just above the treetops, had its head thrown back in position to strike, and it 379 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,520 was just floating through the atmosphere lengthwise. 380 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,440 He says it seemed to be 25 to 40 feet long and about 8 to 10 inches through, at the largest 381 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,440 part. 382 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,640 In the language of Mr. Polson, it was the most like a snake of anything he ever saw and 383 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,240 he believes it was a snake. 384 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,960 One contemporary suggestion was that the snake had actually been a flock of pelicans. 385 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Can you imagine it confusing as a flock of pelicans? 386 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Yeah, that's kind of snappy. 387 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,760 Easily done. 388 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,960 I guess, you know, I saw one pelican once and I was like, is that half a dragon? 389 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Then I was like, no, that's a pelican. 390 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Maybe he just saw a Quetzalcoatl. 391 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Was it awkward? 392 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Not again, you fucking pelican. 393 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,640 You won't fool me. 394 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:55,920 In 1903 in Georgia, there were several witnesses in the Ossila area stating what looked like 395 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,360 a snake over a yard and length flying about 20 feet in the air over the steel branch. 396 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,160 The reptile, they say, made a hissing noise as it flew. 397 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,320 So you knew it was a snake. 398 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,320 It's staaat, though. 399 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Oh yeah, that confirmed it. 400 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,840 He was like, I'm a snake. 401 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,520 I love the language that is being used in... 402 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,760 Oh, the 1800s is a fun time. 403 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,920 I need people. 404 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,200 I can't believe that people actually spoke like this. 405 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,960 They need funer words like skibbity and sigma, Rizzler. 406 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,440 Yeah, and 23 Skadoo. 407 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Exactly. 408 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,120 All those words that are from the same generation, definitely. 409 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,120 Has that come back yet? 410 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,120 23 Skadoo. 411 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:33,120 I don't know. 412 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,120 I don't think so. 413 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:35,360 I'm going to have to bring it back. 414 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:41,120 In August of 1885, Farmer James Vincent Sr. and several friends from nearby Fletcher, 415 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,880 Illinois battled apparently a gigantic air serpent that was attempting to devour Vincent's 416 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,880 sheep. 417 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,360 The snake worked in unison with three smaller snakes, each 18 to 20 feet in length. 418 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,600 The trio snatched a lamb and slithered toward the larger snake, but released their hold 419 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 when one of the men tossed a fence rail at them. 420 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,560 The smaller snakes attacked the men and were repelled, but once again grabbed a lamb. 421 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,480 This time they succeeded in depositing it in the hungry king snake's jaws. 422 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,400 I like that it was for king snake. 423 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,160 Yeah, and I like that they put it into his mouth. 424 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,560 And if he was just standing there waiting for his syrup to open. 425 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,560 With his mouth open. 426 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Yeah. 427 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,920 That would have been pointing into his mouth too. 428 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,880 The men fired several shots at the large snake. 429 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,920 It appeared stunned, but unharmed, and the smaller snakes retreated into its mouth. 430 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,720 The big snake then unfurled its wings and struggled to maneuver around the property's 431 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,720 hedge fences before finally gaining her height to fly away. 432 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,720 That is a great story. 433 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,560 I'm not sure what actually happened there. 434 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,920 They fed it a sheep and then they got in there too and it kind of flew away but not 435 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,920 really. 436 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,880 Yeah, no I heard that but I'm not sure what that would have been a product of. 437 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,120 I did it turn into one again. 438 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,760 I don't know that I like that story. 439 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,720 It was a nice search. 440 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,760 We're actually getting closer to modern time. 441 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Oh, I'm so excited for modern time. 442 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:02,640 There was an encounter in Powis, Wales in March of 2001 around 7 30 PM as reported in 443 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,640 Strange magazine. 444 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,320 A British biologist and a few colleagues were conducting some research in the area after 445 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,640 being notified by a local of something strange that was witnessed a month earlier. 446 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,560 As they stood at the edge of some woods by a quarry, they suddenly looked upon an extraordinary 447 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,560 entity. 448 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:23,880 Measuring three feet or so in length, it resembled a serpentine dragon with four short limbs. 449 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,320 But its head was shaped like that of a seahorse and it was airborne, undulating and wriggling 450 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,920 as it flew about 10 feet above the surface of the quarry in a wide circle. 451 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,640 They were unable to recalculate any wings but it had a long tail that ended in a pair 452 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,880 of horns on the whale like flukes. 453 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,280 The entity was green in color and shimmered somewhat but appeared solid, not translucent 454 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,280 or ethereal. 455 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Oh, that's cool. 456 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,000 They watched it for three to four minutes at a distance of approximately 50 feet before 457 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,440 it finally vanished into one of the numerous caves and large crevices pitting the quarry. 458 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,440 Oh, cool. 459 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,440 That's a good one. 460 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 The biologist had the distinct impression while watching the creature that it was deliberately 461 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:04,880 seeking to keep them at bay, warning them off from approaching further into its territory. 462 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Oh, that one's good. 463 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:10,920 Chelsea, I do just have to share this one with you that is a startling attack on a Southern 464 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Pacific Railroad train near Dawes Palms, California, an express attacked by a flying serpent and 465 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 the passengers fired at the monster with revolvers. 466 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,640 The train probably deserved it. 467 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,640 Those guys are assholes. 468 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:28,360 It probably did but I need to share my screen because this is a beautiful artist rendition 469 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,160 published in the newspaper at the time. 470 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,660 Oh, wow. 471 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:32,660 That's from 1882. 472 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:35,640 Does the train also look fake? 473 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,640 Oh, it's a drawing, Chelsea. 474 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,240 It's not supposed to be real. 475 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Oh, OK. 476 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,120 See, this is the thing about Chinese buildings. 477 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:45,520 He was expecting there to be a hole there for it to just fly through. 478 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,480 To be fair, trains do have holes. 479 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Maybe he was just trying to slip between the cars. 480 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,400 If I give you a look at it, he seems kind of stuck. 481 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Yeah, no. 482 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,640 He looks like he fucked up. 483 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,640 How embarrassing. 484 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,640 That's embarrassing. 485 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,640 I wouldn't ask. 486 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,720 Of course, we can't have an episode on sky serpents without a force looking China. 487 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Let's face it, if you're talking about sky serpents, that's the culture that's most associated 488 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,840 with them. 489 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,840 Is it? 490 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Yeah, that's where their dragon comes from. 491 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,840 I thought it was ginger beef. 492 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,840 This is a sky dragon. 493 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,840 I thought it was ginger beef. 494 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,720 No, ginger beef is from the West. 495 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,440 I thought it was really good Szechuan food. 496 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Yeah, it's really good Szechuan food. 497 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,280 Maybe there's some in these stories. 498 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,880 There was a dead dragon found by Lake Tai Bai in Xiaoxing's 32nd year of the Nansong 499 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,440 dynasty, 1162 AD. 500 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 It had long whiskers and large skates. 501 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,680 Oh, wow. 502 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,680 Oh my god. 503 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,560 The back was black and belly white. 504 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Thins grew from the dragon's back and two large horns protruded the head. 505 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,400 It could be smelled from miles away. 506 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,120 The local people covered it with a mat. 507 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,680 The government sent people to hold worship ceremony at the site. 508 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,720 However, after a night of severe thunderstorms, the dragon disappeared. 509 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,680 Only a ditch remained where it laid. 510 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:58,160 In the summer of the 19th year of Dao Guang, which is 1839, as reported by the Yongping 511 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,800 regional government, a dragon fell from the sky along the lower reaches of the Luenhe 512 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,240 River in Lao Ting County. 513 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,080 The dragon lay in dirt covered by flies and mageps. 514 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,720 The local people made a shelter for it to protect it from the direct sunlight and also 515 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,640 drizzle cold water on the body. 516 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Three days later, after a night of thunderstorms, the dragon left. 517 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:23,120 In August of 1944, hundreds of people from the Chenziayuan village, Fuyu County, south 518 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:29,160 of Songhuajiang River, surrounded a black dragon by the riverbank, Yan Dianyuan, an eye 519 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,680 witness who is still alive at the time wherever I got this story from, was written. 520 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760 It said that the dragon was about seven meters long and looked like a lizard. 521 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,640 The face was almost the same as that of the dragons in classical paintings, with seven 522 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,400 or eight thick hard whiskers. 523 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,000 The upper body was over one foot in diameter. 524 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Its fore paws went deep in the sand. 525 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,440 Crocodile-like scales covered the whole body. 526 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Yan Dianyuan still wonders why that large animal looked so much like a dragon on the 527 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,800 paintings. 528 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,680 In the summer of 1953, an unidentified animal fell from the sky in a place near south of 529 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,180 Henan Province. 530 00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:04,440 Curious people hiked out to see it, and according to the description of some of the witnesses, 531 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,320 the dragon looked like a huge shark. 532 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,680 The odor of decay attracted countless lies. 533 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,600 If it was a shark, it should live in the deep sea. 534 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Why did it fall from the sky? 535 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,200 This case might be related to the dragon's recording history as dropping from the sky. 536 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Just a few smattering of stories from there. 537 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Most of them are dead dragons, unfortunately. 538 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,120 That's good enough, but what if you get that point because they're serpent-like? 539 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,920 What if they're dead snakes at that point? 540 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,360 Well, and they were flying at some point. 541 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:31,560 Like, people saw them flying. 542 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Yeah. 543 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Are there still modern day sightings of dragons? 544 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Chelsea, that is a great question. 545 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,040 And for that, I bring you the Reddit stories. 546 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Oh, thank God. 547 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080 I was really scared this wasn't going to happen. 548 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,440 This was posted to Arkriffided four years ago by Wrathc. 549 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 I can't actually pronounce this one, but there's no dick in the name. 550 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,080 So hey, that's good for you. 551 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,240 Title, Sky Serpent Silver Snake, Like Mass in the Sky. 552 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Okay, so I have seen this, either phenomenon or krypton twice in my life, both times in 553 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,280 broad daylight. 554 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,400 What's bothering me more than having seen them is that the last time I saw one, I of 555 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,920 course, googled the shit out of it. 556 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,760 The first time was in the early 2000s and I was a teenager, so I did my investigating 557 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240 and they tend to be seen more in South America. 558 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,240 So time passes. 559 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,120 I see another about two years ago, point out to a coworker, tell her a little bit about 560 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,000 what we think they are and go on with my life. 561 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Well, a little while back, a friend and I were recanting weird stuff that had happened 562 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,240 because she had a spooky encounter the night before that turned out to be her daughter 563 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,680 wandering about, but I tried to search up some information I couldn't find anything. 564 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,040 I remember them being called Silver Serpents, but no matter how I worded the search, nothing. 565 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,880 And frankly, it's been bugging me. 566 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Anyone have any info they'd like to link or experience this to share? 567 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,400 I can't be alone in seeing these. 568 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:52,480 A year ago in the subreddit CryptoZoology, posted by WhiskeyDelta13, Skysnake, AtmosphericBeast. 569 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,160 Hey everyone, I have posted this before, but I figured I'd do it again to get new opinions 570 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,360 or witnesses involved. 571 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:02,960 Plus, now I have attached a photo I made using AI prompts, it's the closest I could get 572 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,280 to the general shape and look. 573 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,480 I'm not gonna post it because it's an AI generated photo. 574 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,800 So here's the creature sighting. 575 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,720 My brother and a couple friend were loading up the truck to drive out to a dark spot and 576 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,520 watch the perceived meteor shower. 577 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,560 When loading the truck box, I noticed something moving and looked up and said, hey look, there's 578 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,560 a meteor. 579 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,240 And then everyone looked up as well and we all quickly realized it was no meteor. 580 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,520 What we were witnessing in this street lamp light, I could only describe as an undulating 581 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,960 snake-like creature. 582 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,200 It was completely translucent and we could see the stars through it. 583 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,080 It flew just over the trees and out of sight in a matter of seconds. 584 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,040 It had no discernible features, no head, eyes, mouth, wings. 585 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,960 I would guess it was 20 to 30 feet long and maybe 3 to 4 feet wide. 586 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,720 I remember thinking it moved in the way people inside a Chinese dragon costume would move, 587 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,040 vertically undulating. 588 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920 It looked like a biological creature and moved with intention. 589 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Not a big in the wind, not the northern lights. 590 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,120 We were all sober, I have no idea what we saw. 591 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,640 Has anyone else seen anything similar? 592 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,140 My last Reddit story, I just love this one. 593 00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:09,160 This was posted as strange earth just two days ago by littleEiffel282. 594 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,240 The title, my parents saw a dragon in 1992 and I still can't make sense of it. 595 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,240 They were sober. 596 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840 It was March 20th, 1992 in rural Oregon. 597 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320 I was 5 years old, my mother was hosting a baby shower. 598 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,160 She was 8 months pregnant with my brother. 599 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,240 After the ceremony, she went to fetch my father who was flying a kite in the field. 600 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,740 She looked up and there it was. 601 00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:30,880 Not a kite, but next to the kite a silver Chinese dragon, scales and all. 602 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,000 She could hear a slight shimmering sound as it moved. 603 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,360 She turned to my dad and said, do you see that? 604 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,600 Weirdly, he did. 605 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,720 You mean that dragon flying in the sky? 606 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Yes. 607 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,920 32 years later, their testimony is unwavering and they know what they saw. 608 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,240 I'm assuming he said it that flatly as well. 609 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,120 You mean that dragon flying in the sky? 610 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,120 Yes. 611 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,120 Yes. 612 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:54,000 You know, I was scrolling through Reddit the other day as I'm sure we all do. 613 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,840 I just really want to finish this story before I let you go. 614 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Oh, I thought it was finished. 615 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760 I thought it just ended with- No, there's an edit. 616 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Thanks everyone for weighing in. 617 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,360 If you or someone you know saw a dragon and is willing to be interviewed for my documentary, 618 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,360 let me know. 619 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,360 I'm Aaron Saw-Dragon at Gmail.com. 620 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,360 Oh, hold on. 621 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:10,360 That was the one I saw. 622 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,360 Oh. 623 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,360 Okay. 624 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,360 This was just posted the other day. 625 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,360 Yeah. 626 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,360 Two days ago. 627 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,360 I was going to share it, but you just already shared it, so I have nothing to say anymore. 628 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:17,360 That's such a good email. 629 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,360 I'm looking forward to that documentary. 630 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:19,360 I know. 631 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,360 We do. 632 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,360 That's what I thought when I saw it. 633 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,360 That's going to be a good documentary. 634 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:23,360 There's an email like that, but that would also explain why that email wasn't available 635 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,360 when I tried to sign it. 636 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,360 I'm not sure. 637 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,360 I don't know. 638 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:27,360 I don't know. 639 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,360 I don't know. 640 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:29,360 I don't know. 641 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:30,360 I don't know. 642 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,360 I don't know. 643 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,360 I don't know. 644 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:37,360 I don't know. 645 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,360 I'm having a hang of it. 646 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,360 I don't know. 647 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,360 I'm very surprised it actually hasn't been published. 648 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360 There's a second link just up there. 649 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,360 I agree with it. 650 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,360 That would definitely speak to that. 651 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:57,360 There's information about our fake files on your Kurry Kiddies and other joint receipts 652 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,360 and workbooks. 653 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,360 Is there a personal one you already have. 654 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Yes, you do. 655 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Musgrave went on six space missions during his career, which included nearly 27 hours 656 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,640 of extra vehicular activity, which refers to activities performed by space-suited astronauts 657 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,480 outside the spacecraft while in orbit. 658 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,720 In total, the astronaut spent 1281 hours, 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space, and it was 659 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,560 during his time above the Earth's atmosphere that Musgrave recalls some pretty bizarre 660 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,560 sightings. 661 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,680 In fact, in the 90s, he started to give interviews, where he shared stories about seeing snakes 662 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720 that appeared to be swimming in space. 663 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,400 In an interview with Omni in August of 1994, Musgrave said, quote, all kinds of debris 664 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,880 come off space ships, especially at the back end, after the main engines shut down, and 665 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880 you open the doors. 666 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Ice chips, oxygen, or hydrogen stuff dump from the engines. 667 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,040 On my two flights, I have seen in photographed what I call the snake, like a seven-foot eel 668 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,280 swimming out there. 669 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,560 It may be an uncritical rubber seal from the main engines, in zero G, it's totally free 670 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,800 to maneuver, and it has its own internal waves like it's swimming. 671 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,560 In 1995, Musgrave appeared in a documentary sightings where he was quoted as saying, quote, 672 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,840 on two of my missions, and I see them, and I still don't have an answer. 673 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,160 I have seen a snake out there six, seven feet long. 674 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,280 It is rubbery because it has internal waves in it, and it follows you for a rather long 675 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,160 period of time, end quote. 676 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,960 It should be noted that this irked NASA to find out that he was sharing these tails because 677 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440 he had never put this in any reports that he ever made for them. 678 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,440 And it should be noted too that he says that it was probably just a rubber seal, but still 679 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,440 kind of creepy and somewhat related, so I wanted to keep included in here. 680 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,440 Well, his brain went to dragon when he saw it. 681 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,880 Yeah, it was moving like a snake. 682 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Why not just see it? 683 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,960 Yeah, why not just put it out there? 684 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,200 It was probably dragon. 685 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,360 Yeah, what a jerk. 686 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,360 Yeah. 687 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,480 Anyhow, Chelsea, that's what I got. 688 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,200 People see snakes in the sky. 689 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,600 Apparently it's common. 690 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,600 I like that. 691 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400 I don't really like the description of them. 692 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,760 I feel like it's disgusting. 693 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,560 It reminds me of a fish or a snake or a... 694 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,960 Especially the dead dragons. 695 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,840 They sound like they smell nasty. 696 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,840 All of them. 697 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,280 I wouldn't think they smell nice. 698 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000 I wouldn't want to be around them alive or dead. 699 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,560 That's pretty cool, especially that I'm sure they still see them in China. 700 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,840 We just don't know because we don't have the necessary means to know about it probably. 701 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Yeah, but Deep Seek is Chinese. 702 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Maybe it knows. 703 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800 I wonder if Deep Seek has had any encounters. 704 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880 I'm sure it has, anyhow. 705 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,880 It probably has. 706 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Yeah, that was pretty great. 707 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,800 I've been really wanting to do a dragon episode, so I'm glad that it's finally here. 708 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,200 We can still do a dragon episode. 709 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,120 I do think this is somewhat separate. 710 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Hold on. 711 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,120 What's the difference? 712 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,120 Hold on. 713 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,120 What's the difference? 714 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,640 Well, we could be doing European dragon sightings, but I did just basically interchange Chinese 715 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,200 dragons with sky serpents. 716 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Okay, we did sky serpents. 717 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Okay, that's where I'm off. 718 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,240 That's why I'm creeped out. 719 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Maybe dragons wouldn't freak me out as much. 720 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Yeah, maybe they're more majestic than these awkward little guys. 721 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040 This is when I think dragon, this is what I think of. 722 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,840 I feel like that if I was to ever have a dragon sighting, would be looking into the clouds 723 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,720 and seeing one just like as was described in this episode. 724 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,560 I would see it and I'd be like, that's a dragon. 725 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640 Well, they seem more believable in my mind. 726 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,640 They don't breathe fire. 727 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 They do fly without wings. 728 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560 But yeah, I would picture wings. 729 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,560 You're wrong. 730 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,560 Okay. 731 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,480 It should be noted too. 732 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:22,280 The dragon is the only Chinese zodiac animal that isn't really a real animal, but they 733 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,640 believe it is a real animal. 734 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Yeah, there's nothing wrong there. 735 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,120 I see nothing wrong. 736 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,120 There's so much they believe it that it's a real animal that they included it and actually 737 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,000 cut cats out of these zodiac, those mythical creatures. 738 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,360 So Chinese dragons don't have wings? 739 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,360 No. 740 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Really? 741 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,880 Well, I learned something new today. 742 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,680 This is the kind of innocent newness that I need to be learning these days. 743 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,640 I'm just thinking of everything else I'm learning. 744 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,160 And with that, I have been Taylor. 745 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,160 Here with Chelsea. 746 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,160 We are Journey to the Fringe. 747 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 748 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,760 Bye. 749 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,560 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 750 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,680 If you have liked what you have listened to, please like, 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