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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where tomorrow's news is probably a couple

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years away, but yesterday's news is today, I'm pretty sure.

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We are your almost-topical podcast, that was Taylor and Chelsea, looking at something that's

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happened in the real recent events for us.

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It could still be unfolding.

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Yeah.

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And it feels so wrong.

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This is like, this should be a 2027 episode at the earliest.

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It's so true.

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Why are we even covering this?

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We're breaking it, I think.

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Well, that being said, I think instead of coming in late, we're coming in right on time.

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Probably, I don't know.

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Maybe it already happened by now.

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Maybe we are coming in late, I don't know.

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Yeah.

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It's coming in so fast.

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Yeah, the weird thing is we still record a little bit early, so we don't know for sure.

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Right now, yes.

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Sometimes, no.

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You may or may not have been hearing rumblings of something going on with a little thing

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called disclosure.

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And you know what?

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I don't think this one is quite fringy enough.

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We're going with it.

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I still think it's pretty fringy.

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I haven't heard anybody outside the UFO community know anything about this.

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Let's see what we think about it at the end.

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Okay.

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I think I'll call myself a UFO enthusiast.

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I feel as if we have had disclosure and we've seen UFOs, like we have had disclosure technically,

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right?

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What was that 2017 thing?

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I mean, we've had congressional hearings on UFOs.

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It's never really amounted to what I would consider disclosure.

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And I think, I guess it really depends on what you mean by disclosure.

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And when I hear somebody say the government disclosure, it's the government comes out

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and says, we know about UFOs.

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We have, they don't have to say this part, we have a UFO.

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But here are the documents about all our interactions with UFOs.

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Okay.

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And that brings up a good point.

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Like, what would disclosure look like to you?

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Now to me, I feel like we've had it.

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Like we all saw the Tic Tac video on the news.

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That was big news.

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And ever since then, it's just kind of been like, yeah, we know about it.

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To me anyway, I've just struck and, you know, I'm like, yeah, I thought we already knew

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that.

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But to different people, it's different things.

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Like some people do want to see a craft.

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Some people want, like, yes, we know UFOs exist.

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Well, they have done that by releasing that video.

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They said that they knew that they exist.

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And that's that thing.

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There's always been an acknowledgement that there's UAPs or UFOs in the sky.

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It's never gone that they are entities that we don't know about, which I think is the

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difference here.

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Yeah.

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But I think they were saying that with the video.

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But to more my point, I think I'm going to go on a limb to say it's more likely a common

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attitude that I have.

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I thought I had an idea of what's going on and what's being worked on.

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Turns out I was way in the dark and there is way more to learn about what's been going

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on.

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Possibly that was the plan all along for that to be the attitude.

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The one that I exactly adopted, just like, you know, like, yeah, we saw it on TV exists.

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Like we already know that.

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I was listening to a lot the last little bit and there were some people who were saying

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this is a very slow trickling out process of what's going on.

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And it's very bureaucratic at this level because it has to go through so many hearings

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and they're releasing little by little and it becomes boring at that point.

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The bureaucratic process is not necessarily a thrilling thing.

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That's where most people lose their interest and say disclosure didn't happen.

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Yeah, I'm going to say something seriously suspicious is going on.

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And it only took me a little bit of digging when I started to get the suspicion for it

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to unravel into a million different directions.

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And there are a lot of moving parts in what I'm about to talk about.

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We know some of the people in the game, some we have covered, some we've not.

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And some of those who are not are on our list.

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So I'm really excited to talk about this.

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Let's take a little bit of a look about what's been going on.

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There's obviously more before this, but for purposes of this episode, this is where I

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saw fit to start.

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In June 2023, so not that long ago, David Grush, Grush testifies in front of Congress

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being the first big whistleblower with claims about a secret program where we were retrieving

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and studying extraterrestrial technology since the 40s.

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And he's a former U.S. Air Force officer.

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There's a big smear campaign against him right now and he's on our eventual list.

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So they're trying to discredit David Grush right now.

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That's the whole other thing.

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And famously hated by Dr. Greer.

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There's that.

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So at this point in June 2023, all we've had are people from the outside saying that

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they have heard of knowledge of people being within a program in the government where they're

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retrieving UFOs.

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No one has actually come forward who has actually retrieved these UFOs.

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That's an important note.

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October 13, 2024, the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability held

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a hearing titled United Anomalous Phenomena, Exposing the Truth.

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Rayburn House Office Building in Washington, D.C. at 11.30 a.m.

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That was a mouthful.

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Louis Alazando testifies that he was a part of some government program, something like

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that.

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This episode isn't about him either.

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Let's move on.

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Here is where Immaculate Constellation, and I kept calling it Conception when I was

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going it, which brings up a whole other topic.

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That's not the same thing.

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And I had to keep correcting myself.

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So this document is presented in front of Congress, which is an 11-page document.

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It's super easy to find.

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And it's a maze who's in Congress posted it to her website.

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He did.

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And it's her first page, suspiciously enough.

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Interesting.

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I didn't know that.

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But yeah, it's super easy to find.

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And here it says, I'm just going to read you a section.

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Immaculate Constellation is an unacknowledged special access program, USAP, established

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following the public disclosure of the A-tip.

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A SWAP says, I'm kind of not what these things mean, programs by Louis Alazando in 2017.

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On disclosure to Congress, it was determined that this USAP and its collateral information

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have not been lawfully reported to Congress.

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Immaculate Constellation's primary mission is collecting imagery intelligence on unidentified

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aerial phenomenon, UAP, and ARV, reproduction vehicles, utilizing tasked and untasked US

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military intelligence resources as part of a network of SAP's linked to non-human

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intelligences and UAP technologies.

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So they just expect you to know what all these acronym means reading this, I take it.

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Well, no, they're putting a lot of them in.

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The SAP's, I have no idea what that is.

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Immaculate Constellation acts as a nexus for collecting, analyzing, and disseminating

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intelligence on the activities, capabilities, and locations of anomalous aerospace threats

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that originate from foreign or identified sources.

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The intelligence within the Immaculate Constellation program primarily consists of high quality

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imagery intelligence, the collateral measurements and signatures intelligence, of UAPs, blah,

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blah, blah, ARV, or Vs within Earth's atmosphere.

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The collection platforms involved are a blend of tasked and untasked capabilities, and low

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earth orbit, the upper atmosphere, and military and civilian aviation altitudes and maritime

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environments.

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So basically what they're saying is that there's been something going on in the government

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where they've been tracking photos from the military of UAPs and stuff like that, and

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it should have been reported to Congress.

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So it's been operating without its knowledge, and they've been collecting all this information

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on UAPs.

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There is a specific journalist who broke the actual program of Immaculate Constellation,

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I always want to call it the wrong thing, and he goes by Michael Schellenberg, and he

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also testified on this date telling the representatives that there's a quote, growing body of evidence

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that the government is not being transparent about what it knows about unidentified anomalous

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phenomena, and that elements within the military and intelligence community are in violation

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of their constitutional duty to notify Congress of their operations.

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Schellenberg stated that there is a secret program within the US government known as

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Immaculate Constellation whose sole purpose is to collect UFO and UAP reports from military

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personnel and censor data and quarantine them away from the rest of the government and military.

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While he noted that a Pentagon spokesperson has stated no such program exists, Schellenberg

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recounted prior examples in which the Department of Defense has initially denied knowledge

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of UAP related information, only the later changes stance and either admit the information

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exists or releases it to the public.

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So his position is because they've denied things in the past, it's proof that the

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personnel is not correct, is that kind of how he's saying it?

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So he obtained this information through various whistleblowers, and so now we have this document

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that has been presented to Congress.

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So just in the sake of we have a lot to cover in this episode, I just want to jump quickly.

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This document covers a lot of crazy sightings from the military.

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It covers USOs, it covers a floating sphere that just floated over the ocean for hours.

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It's crazy.

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So I'm just going to read a couple of the military personnel testimony that's in this

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The U-boid formation of metallic orbs on USG networks, there exists daytime FMV and daytime

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FLIR footage of a formation of 12 metallic orbs skimming the ocean surface at high speed

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before dispersing in multiple directions.

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The rapid and agile maneuvering of the metallic orbs were incompatible with known aerospace

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vehicles and were between 3 to 6 meters in diameter.

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In the opening segment of this footage, the 12 metallic orbs flew in a tight cuboid formation.

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The metallic orbs were in 3 vertical square formations of about 4 orbs each, arranged

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in a 3-pronged configuration, creating the illusion of a cube shape at distance.

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All the orbs were white-hot against the black-cold ocean in the FLIR footage, and each sphere

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created a faint atmospheric distortion both around itself and as a heat-shimmered contrail.

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The metallic orbs moved in this cube formation over the ocean for some time before rapidly

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breaking formation as pairs.

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and accelerated in speed, but maintained observation on a pair of metallic orbs continuing the

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original trajectory of the larger formation.

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So I guess this was near military equipment just because it's military people.

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So it wouldn't be just drones doing some sort of practice thing.

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Because they wouldn't know there's military in there.

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I'm going to share just one more.

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There's a bunch of these if you want to pull up the document.

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This one is Jellyfish UAP Crosses US-Mexico Border.

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In USG Networks, there exists FLIR footage of an irregularly shaped UAP flying across

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UAP appeared in FLIR to be MOTLed MOTTLED.

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Never heard that word before.

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Irregularly.

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With hot, cold emissions and do you have, do you know what it means?

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Marked with spots or smears of color.

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Irregularly with hot, cold emissions and approximated a jellyfish or floating brain.

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With hanging appendages in appearance creepy.

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The UAP flew against the wind with no visible means of propulsion, maintained an unnatural

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rigidity in its movements and flight path.

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border resembled the same class of UAPs observed near DOD facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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There exists at least one compilation video of this class of UAP sourced from DOD Force

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Protection Assets and Theater ISR which uses this footage as a point of comparison.

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Again, I'm not going to spend much time on this but they use a lot of military jogging

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that I don't know what they're talking about.

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That cube one is creepy though.

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It's available.

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Taylor already said the place that it's through.

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I think that's where it was.

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It was Nancy Mace at around her website.

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Yeah, Nancy Mace has it on her website.

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You can download it there.

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It's only 11.

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And we don't have enough for you to go through.

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It's supposed to be 12 but the first page is miraculously missing.

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That's why they said 12.

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It turns out all of this document was written by Jeremy Corbell.

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That's on the first page.

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So why would they take that off?

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That is something that I wanted to know too.

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I was in here for a later episode.

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Well, thank you for bringing that up.

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I thought it was a typo so I turned all the 12s into 11.

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Thank you for saying that.

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So we're going to move on from there.

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Not enough time to think about it.

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Let's move.

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January 13, 2025, which as I've recorded, that's 13 days ago.

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Jeremy Corbell, funny enough, claims that we're going to be told that there is a craft

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of extraterrestrial origin on its way to Earth and will be here by 2027.

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But that will be a lie.

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And he says his information is coming from reliable military intelligence sources.

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He discloses this on the last episode of his new show that's called UFO Revelation on

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2B.

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I actually just want to play that for you right now.

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Okay.

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Hear it.

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Should there be sound right now?

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Your government now.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I can hear it.

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One truth.

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And that truth is that UFOs are real.

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They've already done told you.

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Sometimes when you want somebody to know a truth, it's so you can set them up to believe

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a lie.

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And that's coming.

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I have zero doubt that lies coming.

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What is the lie?

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Specifically, you want me to say it right now for real, on camera, to be put in the show?

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Okay.

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Problem with that.

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If we tell the lie before it's told, they can adapt.

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That wouldn't be wise.

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I'll tell you privately, but I would really think about it if you want to put this in

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your show.

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For real.

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That's a real thing I'm telling you.

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So will you think about it before we put it in your show?

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I really like that.

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Okay.

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That Schrodinger's cat of, I can't tell you the lie because then it won't be a lie because

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they'll change what they're doing.

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But the lie is coming.

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All indications, like all of them, is that that lie is going to be that there is a craft

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slowly making its way to us here on earth.

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And that is the lie they're going to want you to believe.

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It's nuanced, how they explain that, the nature of that threat, but that 100% is the lie you

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are going to be told.

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You even got a date.

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A language.

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People whisper in a date.

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I should believe that.

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For a long time now.

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It's a family.

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I know.

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Where that lie comes from.

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I know specifically what document from the seventies initiated the idea of that lie.

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A classified document.

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That is the lie you will be told.

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You're going to be told that there is a craft on its way to earth.

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That's the lie.

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Maybe I'm wrong.

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Hope.

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Okay, you're probably wrong.

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Can you say 100% today?

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With a year.

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Not from me.

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Oh, I'm dramatic here in the text.

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Nope.

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I'm not going to propagate that lie.

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Not going to be part of it.

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Not going to say it to the kids.

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What?

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Everybody knows.

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Did you see the text and said what's this?

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They just said 2077.

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And then 2077 again.

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Things will change.

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Because maybe I'm trustworthy.

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Do you think that clarified it?

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Maybe I've told you the truth the whole way through it.

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Now you can verify it.

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Okay, enough of this.

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You're missing all the dramatic close ups and stuff like that.

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Yeah, truly you can't appreciate this without seeing it.

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But yeah, Chelsea, that was maybe one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

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And I had to hear it through the whiny voice of Jeremy Corbell.

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He does have a whiny voice.

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Yeah, I don't like the voice.

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Started off by saying there's a lie.

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I can't tell you the lie because then the lie won't happen if I tell you.

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Okay, okay.

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Here it is.

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100% this is the lie.

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But then he says maybe it won't happen.

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And then he says see like how I texted it to you and all of a sudden was 2077 twice.

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With the dot dot dot at the end of that last one.

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What?

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Okay, so here's the thing about Jeremy Corbell.

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He works very closely with George Knapp who I'm very scared to do a deep dive on.

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I love Knapp and I hope he's not an asshole because I love him.

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Corbell has released some military footage of UAPs, including the first page in that

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whole document that I just read to you.

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Apparently he's been very involved with a lot of this disclosure stuff, though I don't

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know that he's actually working with Tom DeLong's group.

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Not as far as I know.

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He has worked with Lou.

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Yeah, I can't remember.

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I was just listening to Wild Ride with Steve-O of all podcasts go figure it.

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Oh man.

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Why?

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He does not have podcasts.

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I know he really doesn't and I love him.

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But why Jeremy Corbell chose that podcast to immediately go on after that episode was

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aired?

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This episode is just from not even a week ago.

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So why that podcast?

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I don't know.

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But I was listening to him on there and I actually think he said that him and Luisa

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Elizondo didn't get along.

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Don't quote me on that.

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Even though I just listened to it today, I have a lot going on in my head.

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It is incredibly rare for people in the UFO community to get along with more than one

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other person.

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So Jeremy Corbell's working on this disclosure stuff.

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Tom DeLong's group is they don't actually come up in this episode other than Louis Elizondo

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a couple times.

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Actually Chelsea, just sorry.

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Well, my thoughts process is still here.

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One of the few exceptions of that rule is Richard Doherty.

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What a guy.

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God, I love that guy.

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So Corbell has released some military footage of UAPs, including the USS US.

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Too many USS, USS Omaha video where in July 2019, an object is seen moving across the

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water that goes into the water.

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A night vision video captured by naval personnel on the USS Russell in July 2019 showing a

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pyramid just floating in the sky.

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And with George Knapp January 2023, they released an image of a metallic orb from a

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US spy plane over Iraq.

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Yeah.

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He's actually working on all of this stuff.

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I don't know how he's like I said, these are not the episodes where we're looking at

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these people.

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And there's a lot of these people.

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We said we're not going to be covering for a little bit because they're so they're recent

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people.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, Jeremy has a weird background in that like he has been a part of some big releases.

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But then he's also been involved with a lot of people that we've actually covered in the

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past as completely you should not take seriously.

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Yeah.

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You find that with everyone and his involvement with George Knapp.

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I mean, George Knapp and him have an ongoing podcast that I've never listened to.

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Yeah.

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It's not that great of a podcast, honestly, which is sad because I love listening to George

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Knapp and no, it's honestly Jeremy just butters up George Knapp's asshole the entire time,

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just like feeding him like you're the greatest.

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Nobody's ever been as good as you.

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You worked so hard on this.

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And it's just like my God, like just put put some sensor bars on here or something.

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I thought this was a family show.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Family show.

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George Knapp is known for being a good investigator.

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He hasn't come out and stopped working with Jeremy Corbell over this statement that he's

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making, which may call into question George Knapp.

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I don't know.

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Let's get to the end of this.

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Even Steve, when we do, damn it, when we do Jeremy Corbell as an episode, I just had

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a slip and you're going to see why in a second.

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Moving on.

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We got to move quickly.

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In comes Stephen Greer.

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Oh, good.

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I knew he was in here too.

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I love it.

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He comes out and says disclosure project is going to be releasing a collection of whistleblower

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accounts and documents in the next 72 hours.

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I'm going to stress that Jeremy Corbell and Stephen Greer do not work together.

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They hate each other.

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Now, I mean, it's not that hard to eat.

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Stephen Greer.

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So I've had to listen to a lot of stuff that I did not like these past couple days.

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Now, what Stephen Greer is talking about is hard to wrap my head around.

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For one, he started a new podcast to talk about these disclosures.

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Yeah, that was the first episode.

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Yes, it was.

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And my God, is he hard to listen to?

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And I feel like I've heard all of this shit before.

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I always actually feel like the interviewer when Stephen Greer is there is actually like

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filtering it to be listenable and not insufferable.

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It's not.

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He's all about briefing the president and he was a doctor.

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And what he's saying is that there are two governments, the one we know, and then there's

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one operating in the background, the secret government.

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So his whistleblowers are coming forward from the government operating in the background,

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highly illegal, he says.

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But here they are deciding to go to work.

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Well, yeah, that's that's why all their non-disclosures are like null and void, isn't it?

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Because this government is illegal anyway, so you can't sign anything with an illegal

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thing so that all the whistleblowers are just free to talk to him.

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Isn't that how it worked?

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Yeah, that's how it works.

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I just love that he says that it's so illegal, but they're coming forward to him because they

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want to come out and they're deciding to leak the info slowly to us and the regular government

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that we all know they want it to be leaked to them as well.

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But listen.

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Listen to this.

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There is one thing that got my ears up and this is where this is going to take a little

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bit of a turn.

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This had kind of been, I'm going to leave it.

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I'm not going to say a thing, you know, I'm not going to say a thing.

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It's just a short blip on this one.

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We're not listening to very long like we had to listen to fucking Jeremy Kerbal.

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Okay, so first of all, it's going to give you a startle because he's not the best looking

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man.

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He definitely looks like a frazz old man.

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I do really like he's doing a podcast with earbuds and the earbuds are sorry, not built

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at earbuds, the corded headphones, corded earbuds with the built in microphone on them.

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Like that is high level right there.

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Ready?

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Yeah.

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The biggest part of this story isn't the extraterrestrial part of it.

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Ironically.

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That's secondary.

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In fact, people who have been in these covert programs that are very disinformation oriented

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have wanted the public to believe we're not alone, but that there's a threat.

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And most of you who are familiar with my work, Werner von Braun, through his spokesperson

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for the last five years of his life, Carol Rosen said, when he was dying and in 1974

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said, the whole purpose of these covert program, one of the big overarching purposes, is to

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be able to hoax a attack or an alien threat and present the extraterrestrial presence

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as a threat so that they could consolidate military power, industrial power, and also

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pivot the population through fear and to realize there's another enemy to fight.

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Now when you're doing that, it's a long term psychological warfare operation, a PSYOP.

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And the best way to do that is once they figured out and reverse engineered the extraterrestrial

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vehicles, the NHI craft as we're calling them now, non-human intelligence craft.

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Those then began to be deployed in the late 1950s into operational craft that look like

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a UFO.

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For most people in the lay public, they're indistinguishable from the vehicle.

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And those have been used in deceptive operations known as false flag operations.

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And these include everything that's in the pop culture on the subject, human abductions

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by aliens, mutilations of cattle and humans, and all kinds of skull duggery.

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Now we can prove, if you go to our archive, that this has been a CIA PSYOP for many, many

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decades.

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Okay, enough.

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I wanted to hear, I don't know if you got the point that I was really wanting to hear.

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It sounded like he was just copying Jeremy Corpbell in a much vaguer sense.

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Yeah, the thing that really got me to perk my ears up when it was just, you know, you

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know what Steven Greer talks about?

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What really perked my ears up was Werner von Braun.

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Good.

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Who was a part of Operation Paperclip, which was a secret US program that recruited six

490
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,800
people.

491
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Great Nazi who came over to NASA.

492
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Yeah, we did an episode on it.

493
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,800
That's right.

494
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800
It's hard to remember.

495
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Yeah, we did.

496
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,320
No, no, it came up with Nazis on the moon, I think.

497
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,320
Okay.

498
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,160
One of the Nazi episodes.

499
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Anyway, that kind of got me perking my ears up because you're going to see here, I didn't

500
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,480
know that this was being talked about.

501
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,320
This kind of lie about aliens coming.

502
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:22,120
And in the last couple weeks, all of these major people, Jeremy Corpbell, Steven Greer,

503
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:28,240
we're going to get to another one, are leaking and coming out with this information.

504
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Has anybody paid three dollars to see Tranma's opinion on the subject?

505
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,080
We'll get to that.

506
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,080
Okay.

507
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Not to spoil it.

508
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,000
But none of these people work together.

509
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,760
So yeah, he's saying the same information that Jeremy Corpbell is saying out there.

510
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,760
The Warner Von Braun thing kind of got me to perk my ears up when I've been hearing

511
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160
this thing coming out more and more.

512
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,520
The enormous amount of far right shit that is being pushed in everyone's faces right

513
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,520
now.

514
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,880
I will just say that much.

515
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,920
That's why I was like, what?

516
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Greer goes on to say, don't get confused.

517
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200
All aliens are very good and they're here to help us.

518
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,960
He then goes on for another fucking hour and a half in his podcast and I don't have time

519
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,120
for that.

520
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,160
My favorite part for as far as I got is when he was talking about meeting with the director

521
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,880
of the CIA for Bill Clinton, R. James Wolsey, I think is his name.

522
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,760
And then Greer says, but he denies meeting me because well, my commentary on that is

523
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,240
that he didn't want to hear that and it's Washington and it's lawyers and politicians

524
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,520
and what have you and everybody knows what that means.

525
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880
I always love that letter back from Wolsey.

526
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,240
If you haven't listened to the Greer episode, go listen.

527
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,240
It's great.

528
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760
That's in the second half.

529
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,760
And speak of the devil.

530
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,200
I wanted to see if David Wilcock was talking about any of this and at the time of writing

531
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:02,840
this, which was yesterday, I didn't feel like sifting through 175 hours of over two YouTube

532
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,440
lives that are just in the last three weeks.

533
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:15,600
And I also just wasn't in the mood to entertain various forms of drama and bad daddy.

534
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520
So that's a very specific mood.

535
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,480
But I did Google him and then I was like, I don't really feel like it, but let's just

536
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920
check out if he's talking about this.

537
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,960
And this post on X came up, which I read this, I gave up on him.

538
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,280
Here's David Wilcock.

539
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,600
I just watched the inauguration and have never felt more proud of our country.

540
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,600
It's still hard to believe this really happened, but here we are.

541
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Thank you to everyone who's hard work and sacrifice made this amazing day possible.

542
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
So after that, I was fucking over that shit.

543
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,680
I was like, I'm out of here.

544
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,760
I'm not even looking at this face.

545
00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,240
But then cut to today because it's a constant, evolving mess of bullshit going on here.

546
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,480
There's a live and I was like, let's just hop on the live and the live was called.

547
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,160
What was it called Taylor?

548
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Oh, uh, blue, the blues for blue beam or something like that.

549
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,440
Blue beam blues.

550
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120
That is hard to say.

551
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,400
And so I was like, this jackass is going to be talking about this.

552
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680
So we jump on it and what did he say?

553
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,120
He's been holding onto this info since 2009.

554
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,840
And we're going to be seeing a fake alien invasion scenario play out in a relatively

555
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,960
short amount of time.

556
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,240
That's right between jumping back and forth between his multiple cameras and putting up

557
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,480
his slides that say his hips finally feeling better.

558
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,280
He said that Donald Trump made it past the deep state.

559
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,720
They didn't want him to be president.

560
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,160
And here he is.

561
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,640
They got him there.

562
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,640
And then I was out of there.

563
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,200
I was like, enough of this bullshit.

564
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,080
So is he the one announcing then that the UFO was coming and it's great that he got

565
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
in, but he's going to lie to us?

566
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Yes.

567
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,040
I think that that's what everybody is pushing is that it's going to be disclosed by Trump.

568
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,760
But it's a lie.

569
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,760
It's a lie.

570
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,320
Mixed in with all of this.

571
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960
You think I wasn't going to talk about it, but I have to.

572
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,800
January 16th news nation announces actually David Wilcock was a little too far up in the

573
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,680
timeline, but this is evolving.

574
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,800
I had to add it in just before I jump on.

575
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,800
Yeah.

576
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,920
And I did bring up Fran Ma.

577
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
You can't leave Tran Ma unaddressed.

578
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Yes.

579
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,600
And do you know how many times he brought up Tran Ma in the 20 minutes I was listening?

580
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,600
It was ungodly.

581
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600
He stumbled unaware.

582
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600
He can't stop.

583
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:52,440
People were trying to distract him from his five hour long freaking life.

584
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,160
He would think you have enough time to fucking talk about how broke he is to a million Tran

585
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Ma episodes.

586
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:07,440
January 16th news nation announces Jake Barber Air Force veteran will be sharing his story

587
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:13,560
about being a part of a secret military operation to retrieve an egg shaped UFO.

588
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,240
According to Barber, the craft was egg shaped.

589
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,240
Like I said, seemless.

590
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,120
And this is Alec.

591
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:27,120
I do think it's important that this was within 72 hours of when Greer said something's coming

592
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,120
on 72 hours.

593
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Correct?

594
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Yeah.

595
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,120
Yeah.

596
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,440
So it was seamless, metallic, repelled light and stayed cool to touch.

597
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,800
And there was a body found within the craft that was clearly not human.

598
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,600
News nation has all the receipts to back up his credentials.

599
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,320
They've spoken with other people.

600
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,400
He's worked with not willing to come forward, but are willing to say that they worked with

601
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,280
him, but not in the thing that he was doing that they're actually talking about.

602
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,280
Correct?

603
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,280
Right.

604
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,280
Yeah.

605
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,840
It seems that Greer has tried to latch on to Barber like Greer has something to do with

606
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,640
it as he does.

607
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,360
And we know from our Greer episodes that he likes to do that.

608
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,640
He's not associated with Barber at all.

609
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,160
He's making it seem like he is.

610
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:20,160
I'm also going to say why did catch a little bit of Greer's episode number two on his podcast

611
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,120
and he's using a whole bunch of news nation clips of Barber in it.

612
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,280
So he's really trying to grasp onto it like he has something to do with it, but he's not

613
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,960
involved with Barber at all.

614
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,720
So I'm going to read you just some highlights from the news nation article that goes along

615
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:37,720
with the story.

616
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:43,640
So this is from the article titled full special whistleblower reveals the way P retrieval program

617
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:50,360
object caught on video by Ross Cool Thart updated January 19, 2025.

618
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Jacob Barber says that for the past 30 years, he's worked in both an official and unofficial

619
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,320
capacity for the United States government and its partners in the intelligence community.

620
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,240
And while others have alleged that there's a secret government UAP retrieval program

621
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:12,120
that's been going on for decades, people like David Grush and Louise Elizondo, they say

622
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080
they've been told about it.

623
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,600
They believe it exists, but they weren't actually a part of it themselves.

624
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480
Barber, however, is different.

625
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,560
He says he was a part of a covert program that worked with alien spacecraft for years.

626
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,840
He says he was contracted as a helicopter pilot and he was part of a team assigned to retrieve

627
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,360
crashed aircraft and an undisclosed testing facility in the desert.

628
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,000
A lot of the work we did was on what I called the range where the US government and its

629
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,440
private partners used to test all kinds of things, weapons systems and resilience to

630
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,760
weapons systems of certain craft.

631
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,840
And so you see a lot of exciting things said Barber.

632
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,840
That's where Barber said he began to see strange things.

633
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,480
It's always interesting out there.

634
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,800
He said things come in and out of sight, things disappear for a moment and reappear, things

635
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680
seem to move very quickly, things change color, they change shape.

636
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,840
Barber said that his team recovered things that were exotic in nature.

637
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,040
We know they were classified craft, he said, and we covered them and took them back to

638
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,240
where they go.

639
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:17,560
Just visually looking at an object on the ground, you could tell that it was extraordinary

640
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,720
and anomalous.

641
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,480
It was not human, he said.

642
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,240
Barber said he got his first glimpse of non-human pretty quickly.

643
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:29,400
I was a helicopter pilot and I operate with 150 to 200 foot long line.

644
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
So I got within 100 feet of this object, he said.

645
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,480
That's when he saw it.

646
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,600
I saw an egg, a white egg, he said.

647
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,680
There was no engine, there was no thermal signature, I was operating at night when I finally came

648
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,680
to pick it up.

649
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,440
So I'm working under night vision goggles at the time and it was quite clear.

650
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,680
I flipped them up, flipped them down and looked at it a couple of different ways.

651
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,760
Barber said the metallic pearly white object was about the size of an SUV.

652
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,600
I can tell you that the reaction by my team, we all knew we were dealing with something

653
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,280
extraordinary, he said.

654
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,320
While Barber said he was never told the craft wasn't human, he's certain.

655
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,960
I'll tell you that because of the reaction of my leadership structure and because of

656
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,080
my experience working in that capacity, everyone involved was convinced that what we were seeing

657
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,160
and dealing with was in fact exotic in origin, said Barber.

658
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,800
I will also tell you that during this process over the last couple of years, it's been confirmed

659
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,560
to me by ranking members of the UAP task force that what we were working with that night

660
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:32,840
was in fact NHI, non-human intelligence and it was not a unique experience.

661
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,440
Barber said he still doesn't know what exactly the object was or where it may be housed now.

662
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,520
It would be taken to a secure facility but my role stops once I delivery, he said.

663
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,080
That wasn't Barber's only brush with the LX plate, there was another object.

664
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,800
One was the egg, the other is what I called an 8 gun.

665
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,440
The 8 gun was essentially a flying disc with what?

666
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080
I think it's supposed to be octagon.

667
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Like an 8 sided gun.

668
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,840
8 gun, yeah, that looks great.

669
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,680
Thank you for clarifying that because I had no idea what that meant, I just went with

670
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,680
it.

671
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,800
I think that's what they mean.

672
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,000
That's a problem I have sometimes.

673
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,480
Essentially a flying disc with what looked like 8 delineated sections when looking down,

674
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,480
there you go, said Barber.

675
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,120
And I can tell you what it looked like from looking down because that's primarily how

676
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,720
I saw it because I'm a helicopter pilot.

677
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:33,600
We did recoveries with the 8 guns, there was more than one that made its way to the ground

678
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,880
of this particular operation.

679
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,840
Barber said what happened next would be one of the most profound experiences he's had

680
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,840
in his life.

681
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,520
As I get closer to the site, I start feeling odd.

682
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,080
I start feeling extremely emotional and the closer I get, the more emotions starts to

683
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,520
overwhelm me, he said.

684
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,600
I feel this intense hybrid of sadness and happiness with beauty and song and it was

685
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,920
very disruptive to me because I had a very practical responsibility at that time to operate

686
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:05,160
a helicopter in the mountains at night and I became wondering what's wrong with me.

687
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,280
Barber said it didn't feel like an emotional breakdown but rather something entirely different.

688
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Drone sightings over Long Island airport sparks concerns.

689
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Oh I think that's a title going into the next one.

690
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,240
I've note that was an ad.

691
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:22,240
That I copied.

692
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:26,880
Yep, that's an ad to another link.

693
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,520
I felt like something connected with me, he said.

694
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
I'm just gonna skip over this.

695
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,200
Yeah, no and I heard his, because this was in the interview too.

696
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,240
Yes, that was, yeah, that grew me for you.

697
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,680
It's essentially the same thing, I know.

698
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Yeah, because it just seems like it shouldn't have been included honestly because it just

699
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,760
seemed like he was attaching too much emotion to what was actually going on.

700
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,360
And it seems like it kind of takes away from it.

701
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,360
But exactly.

702
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,480
But he does go in to say in the interview and I think that's where he's getting at in

703
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:08,960
this article that there is a psychic connection with UAPs and that's a part of what he's disclosing.

704
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Yeah, see he shouldn't be there for that because he didn't really have any part of it other

705
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,160
than being emotionally affected by something.

706
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,480
Which anything can emotionally affect you.

707
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:28,320
And not to bring up John Keel, but I mean we saw things and it was our speculation on

708
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:34,280
that part about people's emotional when they're seeing something that they can't fit into

709
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
their regular life.

710
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Well, there's other parts to it too.

711
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,760
The big thing for me, sound frequencies can give an emotional response that you can't

712
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,400
hear it, but it is impacting you.

713
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,600
So maybe whatever it was you're picking up is emitting this high frequency sound that

714
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640
is impacting you or something else.

715
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Maybe you had bad food for lunch.

716
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Maybe you didn't eat.

717
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Who knows?

718
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,760
That's why this is such a thing that really shouldn't be included here.

719
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,400
And given the attachment to the video that they also had, the video is not great.

720
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,040
No, and that's the next thing I wanted to talk about.

721
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,440
And I think that was everybody's reaction to this coming out, which is why I wanted to

722
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,280
read a little bit of this article because I saw the video and I was like, well, that

723
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,280
sucks.

724
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,800
It's just it could be anything.

725
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,240
Now, yeah, it seemed like there was a huge lead up there saying he has high depth footage

726
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,800
and then you see it and you're like, well, that doesn't look like anything.

727
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,320
So I did want to put it out there because I don't know.

728
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,280
And like I said, I didn't know a lot of this stuff going on with disclosure as well.

729
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,840
So we're all in this together.

730
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,100
And if you're anything like me, you missed all of this.

731
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,720
So I'm here to help you with this.

732
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,760
So you know, this stuff, if you've been in the UFO community for any longer than just

733
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,800
this disclosure saga, you know, to wait until it passes.

734
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Definitely, which is why we wait for a lot of these people.

735
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,760
Something else I found out apparently I'm really behind on the times because I was missing

736
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,640
a lot of little details about what's been going on.

737
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Did you know that in July 2024, the US government passed the UAP Disclosure Act of 2024 and

738
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,880
it's coming into effect in 2025?

739
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,840
I vaguely knew about it.

740
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,040
It was Chuck Schumer talked about it a bit.

741
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,360
And I've been seeing stuff about it.

742
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,760
I knew something was happening.

743
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,720
I didn't know the specific dates on it.

744
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:33,720
Yeah.

745
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:34,760
So it's coming into effect.

746
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:42,320
Corbel was talking a lot about whistleblower protection on Steve's podcast and how we need

747
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:48,600
them to move forward because right now they can't because they're scared of losing pensions

748
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,600
and stuff like that.

749
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,840
So they're really important in the movement.

750
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:59,040
And that's great that the current government is canceling security and any sort of support

751
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,720
that they offer to people left and right.

752
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:02,720
Yeah.

753
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,760
I know that's a lot to take in.

754
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,560
There are lots of moving parts, but now I'm going to circle back to what Jeremy Corbel

755
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:17,640
has said about someone big coming out and disclosing an ET aircraft on its way here.

756
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:26,640
It just happens to be an ex CIA agent who has said this exact thing that Corbel and

757
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Wilcock and Greer are all talking about.

758
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,160
And he actually talked about this quite a while ago.

759
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,720
He goes by the name of John Ramirez.

760
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,520
I know you're just waiting for me to say Richard Doty.

761
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,520
I know.

762
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Yes.

763
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,040
This is a different CIA guy.

764
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,520
Coast to coast, Ambiote anyone?

765
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:58,880
John Ramirez served from 1984 to 2009 in the CIA, Directorate of Science and Technology,

766
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:07,040
Directorate of Intelligence and the ODNI National Counter-Rolliferation Center and CPC.

767
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:13,800
During his 25 year career, he specialized in ballistic missile defense systems and signals

768
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,000
analysis of weapons system radars.

769
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,800
He served as the Chief of Base for an overseas technical collection facility and was Chief

770
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:30,400
of the Electronic Intelligence ELINT Analysis Branch, a founding member of the ODNI and

771
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,400
CPC.

772
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:40,560
He was the SIGINT Specialist and Multidiscipline Collection Requirement Strategist for Counter-Rolling

773
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Affirmation Equities.

774
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:49,440
Prior to his career in the intelligence community, John enlisted in the US Navy as an electronics

775
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,680
warfare technician.

776
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,920
He is a graduate of the George Washington University in Washington DC.

777
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,400
He's currently a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers and the Central

778
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,840
Intelligence Retirees Association.

779
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,880
You getting any red flags here?

780
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,040
I gotta say there's a lot of letters.

781
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,960
So my mind kind of just went blank for a minute there.

782
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,960
I think that they do it on purpose because you just kind of zone out when you hear too

783
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,720
many letters.

784
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:27,680
But he's in Directorate of Intelligence and not only that, he is still a part of the Central

785
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Intelligence Retirees Association.

786
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
He is still involved with the CIA.

787
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,520
Yeah, and there's always the saying, once, I forget how it is, once in CIA, always in

788
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,040
the CIA or something like that.

789
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:47,720
So I'm going to share my screen with you once more and we're going to just watch this

790
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,440
guy so I can find him.

791
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,960
That's what we would do if there was like a mass landing.

792
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Would we just simply prepare for a conflict?

793
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,600
That's the podcast or a phobia.

794
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
You know, that's a scary thing.

795
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Well, I think the dialogue we're having now in this country, even with the recent legislation

796
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:16,000
that passed through the legislature and is on its way up to the President's desk, even

797
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,800
with that, we're kind of preparing the US population at least and by extension, the

798
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,200
world population and to that reality that there is something, there is a presence here

799
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,400
and that we need to explain this presence because if they show up and we continue to

800
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,420
do what we did before in previous decades and this show up, there will be mass panic.

801
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:41,760
But if you understand that, though, these are real and we have five years from 2022,

802
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,840
well, maybe now four years, if they come in 2027, for the US government to prepare the

803
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,360
people about what is up there.

804
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,960
In many ways, I think the word got out within the government that they're showing up in

805
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,560
2027 and we better be prepared and if not, there's going to be a lot of explaining to

806
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,400
do.

807
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:13,680
And so I think that dialogue has happened within, inside the government and certain areas inside

808
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,760
the government that we need to prepare and that's why in 2017, that set a clock of 10

809
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,760
years.

810
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:29,160
And why Lou Elizondo earlier in this year said, just find a hobby for five years and

811
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080
it'll all be out in five years.

812
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,040
And he said that this year, so that was 2027.

813
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:41,360
And I would say, I've heard 2027 in a kind of an official capacity and I can't reveal.

814
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:48,760
So I think I would say that people in the government are aware of something happening

815
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:55,280
and that there's limited time, a few more years to prepare the people and that's what's

816
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,320
ramping up this acceleration from the previous seven decades.

817
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:06,200
So he can say it's 2027, but I can't tell you how told me this.

818
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,120
At a faster and faster pace.

819
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:14,600
So this is kind of where Trace is back to is this guy.

820
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Interesting.

821
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:22,120
I don't know where he's getting his information from and he's a CIA agent.

822
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,800
Who talks to Lou Elizondo.

823
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,800
Okay.

824
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,800
Yeah.

825
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,920
So I'm just going to leave that for you to just sit with.

826
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,440
He gives me massive Doty vibes.

827
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,440
Yeah.

828
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Oh yeah, for sure.

829
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:43,360
I'm going to say that now for a fun part of this and thank you to David Wilcock for

830
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,240
the soft intro into this portion of the podcast.

831
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:53,640
I don't have a date on this one, but I just want to talk a little bit about Project Bluebeam,

832
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,800
which is also another weird thing that comes into play in all of this.

833
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,320
Project Bluebeam we haven't talked about before.

834
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,040
We probably should have.

835
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,600
This is a very good time.

836
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,600
We have alluded to it.

837
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Because it came up in the Norway spiral.

838
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Yes it did.

839
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,960
That was a very quick reference you pulled out.

840
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,240
Yes it did.

841
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,000
Just a quick background on it.

842
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Just one more ad.

843
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,400
It might have come up in harp as well.

844
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,800
I can't remember for sure.

845
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Here right on that too.

846
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,680
Project Bluebeam EBB as I like to call it.

847
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,720
If I'm going to pull a steven career on you.

848
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:39,240
Originated in the 1990s proposed by Canadian journalist Serge Monast from Quebec who died

849
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,400
in 1996.

850
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,800
He died super early too.

851
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,400
It was like 56.

852
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:52,200
It alleges that a covert operation by global elites to establish a dictatorship world government

853
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:58,720
by orchestrating fake celestial or supernatural events using futuristic NASA technology.

854
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:04,120
Yes it's going to be Jesus in the sky for your Messiah.

855
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:19,680
According to the theory advanced holographic technology would be used to project images

856
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,560
of religious figures or extraterrestrial invasions in the sky tailored to specific

857
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,560
cultural beliefs.

858
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,600
This phenomena would aim to deceive populations creating global panic and dismantling existing

859
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,320
religious and social structures.

860
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,160
The theory outlines several alleged stages.

861
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:45,520
First earthquakes would be triggered to unearth hidden artifacts proving existing religions

862
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,520
are false.

863
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Next, holographic projections would stimulate the return of divine figures customized to

864
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,280
each region followed by a unifying god speaking to all people.

865
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:03,800
Finally, it posits that technology would manipulate human thoughts creating the illusion of direct

866
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,760
communication with deities and simulating an alien invasion to justify authoritarian

867
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,760
control.

868
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:16,080
Part of the rollout of Project Bluebeam and why I'm talking about it right now is a fake

869
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:22,200
alien invasion and the start date for this was predicted as 2025.

870
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,600
Which is fucking insane and I just want to add that something like this is not outside

871
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,920
of the realms of believability for what we can achieve through the technology that is

872
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,920
out there currently.

873
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,200
Uh it's a lot higher.

874
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,960
Like you wouldn't be able to beam into every person's head their Messiah knowing who their

875
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Messiah is.

876
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,240
No that's true thought reading but I think it could get pretty close if you were-

877
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,360
It's better than it was in the 90s that's for sure.

878
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,400
I mean you can speak pretty ambiguously and people would take it as something especially

879
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,960
religious people.

880
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:05,840
So that's what I have for you guys for this episode.

881
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Putting that all together something's not sitting right with me about it.

882
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Chelsea?

883
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Yeah?

884
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:19,040
So we're at the first page of the Immaculate Constellation release which I think really

885
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,480
paints it in a different light and it's kind of interesting that it was left out.

886
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,680
Okay let's read it.

887
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,280
Titled Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Truth Lies and Strategic Surprise 13 November

888
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,000
2024.

889
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,280
My name is Jeremy Corbell and I am an American investigative journalist.

890
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,880
My mentor in journalism is George Knapp.

891
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,080
No he's got to add that.

892
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,400
Yeah, he's so good looking.

893
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,680
The following document is submitted on behalf of a courageous government whistleblower who

894
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,720
has presented evidence on the UAP issue to the appropriate committees of the United States

895
00:54:58,720 --> 00:54:59,720
Congress.

896
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:05,400
This report includes highly credible information not only affirming the existence of an identified

897
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:12,600
anomalous phenomena but also exposing a decades-long conspiracy to deceive the American people

898
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:18,520
and their elected representatives from uncovering the truth about the durational UAP presence

899
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,320
on planet Earth and its potential origin.

900
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,120
Naturally one might ask why not step forward directly?

901
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Why does the author remain unseen before the American public?

902
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:34,320
The answer to this is nearly as unsettling as the revelations asserted within this report.

903
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,600
In today's America, speaking truth has become a perilous endeavor.

904
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,460
Citizens and journalists now face the grim reality of potential lethal retaliation from

905
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:45,640
rogue government factions.

906
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,560
Whistleblowers and the journalists who support them are no longer assured freedom, safety,

907
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,800
or prosperity in the United States of America.

908
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,880
This should disturb every American out their core.

909
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,080
We are witnessing the erosion of free expression under the guise of national security, a slippery

910
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,760
descent into authoritarian censorship.

911
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,160
Yet, the spirit of freedom remains.

912
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:12,440
Brave individuals have defied intimidation and oppression to bring these truths to light.

913
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,960
This document is merely one piece in a larger body of evidence, a rising tide of undeniable

914
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
truth that cannot and will not be silenced.

915
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,720
I have personally gone to objectively extreme measures to ensure this.

916
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:30,040
My hope is that by sharing this document, Americans will feel inspired to reclaim not

917
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,520
just their government, but the very fabric of their reality.

918
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:40,480
Reality itself has been manipulated by a privileged few who, blinded by fear and greed, have disregarded

919
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,640
the suffering of millions.

920
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,720
What unfolds from here will shape not only the future of the United States, but that

921
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,480
of humanity on planet Earth.

922
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,180
I have a lot more to say on the matter, however, I request to do so under oath when I am formally

923
00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:57,240
invited by Congress in a hearing open to the American public.

924
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,400
Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Cobel.

925
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,360
I actually really like the end of his signature block.

926
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,960
Co-host weaponicepodcast.com.

927
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:13,640
He refrained him from saying co-host with torch nap.

928
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,000
It definitely feels less official in that capacity.

929
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Yeah, no, it did not come from anywhere official.

930
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,080
It came directly from Jeremy Corbell who refuses to say who gave it to him.

931
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Which is his whistleblowers.

932
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,120
Yeah.

933
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:33,120
This was specifically excluded from the documentation of this.

934
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,120
It was.

935
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Yeah.

936
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,280
That's funny that you brought that up.

937
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,960
I'm glad that you had that knowledge in this.

938
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:47,840
One thing that keeps coming to me, which should be the big question that I had not heard addressed

939
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:55,040
in any single one of these people speaking is why are they lying about this?

940
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,040
What's the lie?

941
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,880
It's really weird.

942
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,240
There's no answer that anybody is saying.

943
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,640
The shadow government's already in control.

944
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,640
Is it not?

945
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Yeah.

946
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,640
Yeah.

947
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,920
You do see it a lot on the news where you see something big in the news like Kim Kardashian

948
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,840
or what have you and then something is being like something important is happening that

949
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,320
nobody wants to draw attention to.

950
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,840
That does happen.

951
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Saying it's a distraction.

952
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,040
It's going to be a lie.

953
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,600
What is the freaking lie?

954
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:33,920
This has been being propagated for years now and it's crazy how often these years are coming

955
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:40,360
up for years now and why is all of this happening with all of these people coming out with it

956
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,560
right now?

957
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,280
If they've known for years, why are they all saying it right now?

958
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,760
None of these people work together.

959
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,400
No, that's a hilarious part.

960
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:55,280
It's like they're leaking off of each other.

961
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,240
I can't wait to see what happens with this because I feel like they're leaking off of

962
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,240
each other.

963
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,240
And there's two people in this that I would not put it past them to be leaking off of

964
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,240
each other.

965
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,720
I mean all of them.

966
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,760
So my theory, like I said, something's not sitting right.

967
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,840
Something doesn't feel right.

968
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,960
This isn't right.

969
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:21,400
I don't know if someone is leaking something to one of them and then they're all playing

970
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:28,720
off each other trying to capitalize on this because these are mostly all grifters just

971
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,280
trying to capitalize on it and they all have their own following.

972
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:42,240
I don't know if this is something that's a part of a bigger and more sinister thing,

973
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:48,480
but it feels like anything but what these people are saying and they're not saying why.

974
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,640
So.

975
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,800
No.

976
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,800
It's crazy.

977
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,880
I don't know what to make of it.

978
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,960
I can't put it together.

979
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960
All of this is kind of ongoing right now.

980
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,160
I just thought it was the egg guy.

981
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,440
That's all I thought this disclosure thing was.

982
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,120
And I didn't realize there was all this stuff going on with aliens coming here.

983
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,600
So I'm kind of like, this is weird.

984
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,240
I know and I've been seeing things about saying, hearing that it would be a lie if somebody

985
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,240
says that.

986
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,480
But I'm like, why are you warning us about this though?

987
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,000
It's so weird.

988
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,760
It seems it's disinformation.

989
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,640
It feels like we're living it and getting it right now.

990
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,640
Why?

991
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,920
What is the purpose of them all talking about it?

992
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Yeah.

993
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,920
And so like.

994
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Oh, the one thing I wanted to add with that guy who airlifted the egg out of wherever it

995
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
was.

996
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Yeah.

997
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,240
That does remind me of that covert NASA program that retrieved satellites no matter where they

998
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,680
are that we did learn about, I forget what episode it was in, but it's a talk speaker

999
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:57,040
program where they pick up bizarre pieces of things falling from the sky.

1000
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,600
They're just very terrestrial.

1001
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,600
We put them up there.

1002
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,200
I don't know what episode we wouldn't even talk to folks.

1003
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,680
I can't remember either, but it came up in something.

1004
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,680
But does that not remind you of that?

1005
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,160
And it's probably this guy just wasn't told that he was a part of that.

1006
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,160
Yes.

1007
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,160
You know what?

1008
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,680
I'm even deciphered that this guy is on a helicopter or how big the object is.

1009
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,680
Yeah.

1010
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,120
I and people are saying like they've tried to do measurements because they say it's a

1011
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,120
250 foot lift or whatever.

1012
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:29,040
So you can kind of do a measurement of it, but I'm not getting into the details of that.

1013
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,800
No, I took one look at it and I can't do that.

1014
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,880
And as soon as I saw Steven Greer's face on it disclosure in 72 hours, I was just like

1015
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:37,880
with this.

1016
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,880
Yeah.

1017
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:44,160
I was not going to happen because it's Steven Greer and he's a fucking grifter.

1018
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,240
And I love that he's also giving his seal of approval of, you know, the aliens are

1019
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,240
good guys.

1020
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,720
I know they say they're bad, but they're good.

1021
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,680
So definitely believe me.

1022
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,120
But we're the bad guys.

1023
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,160
I always love that part of the story.

1024
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,160
We're the bad guys.

1025
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,160
Yeah.

1026
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,800
So yeah, I can't make heads or tails of this.

1027
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,800
What do you think?

1028
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,200
Oh, I can't either.

1029
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,760
I just, and this is why I usually like to cover them at the end so we can say like these

1030
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,240
are the assholes who played this out.

1031
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:19,280
But hey, we get to take part in some assholery, which is like stash watchery, but slightly

1032
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,280
different footery.

1033
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,280
We're taking part in the big footery.

1034
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:29,160
So yeah, I actually think we might have an update on this one before the end of the year.

1035
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,040
So I am excited for that.

1036
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,680
In the meantime, or it should be soon because the latest, it'll be 2027.

1037
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,680
I am here.

1038
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,680
Yeah.

1039
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,680
The very latest.

1040
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,680
And we're the ones that just disclosed it.

1041
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,680
Damn it.

1042
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,760
We're the suckers.

1043
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,200
A lot of these people are saying within a couple of weeks.

1044
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:54,640
So yeah, you know, by the time this episode comes out, we may already have been told

1045
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,920
that they're on their way.

1046
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,920
So yeah.

1047
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,280
And in any event, we all hope for Tranmon.

1048
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,880
If it's the next update, but in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.

1049
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,880
We are journey to the fringe.

1050
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,280
Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week.

1051
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,280
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1052
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,640
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1053
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:18,720
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1055
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,120
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1056
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,960
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1057
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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:39,160
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1059
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:46,080
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1060
01:03:46,080 --> 01:04:07,760
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