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I think I have a good one and I don't think it's necessarily a spiritually depressing thing or

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what would be a good way to phrase how I do things Chelsea.

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Sad. I don't think it's sad in the same way they're usually sad.

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No, they're more soul crushing.

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Yeah.

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I wish I could find a better source for this, but just because I couldn't find a source that we would

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normally go with, just like take into account how serious this thing is because I had the options

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of Daily Mail, New York Post or The Times of India and I'm going with The Times of India.

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I was like not another iPhone again and another C8.

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Even they're not covering it Chelsea.

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I'm surprised you went with it then to be honest.

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This is on January 5th. It came from the TOI Times of India trending desk,

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which I don't think that somebody who can write. So I don't know who wrote this article.

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Still a better source than the New York Post though.

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Okay.

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Article title.

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I'm not sure this is going.

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Mysterious toxic fog sparks health concerns and conspiracy theories across the U.S.

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A mysterious thick fog.

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Go ahead.

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I haven't heard of this anywhere at all.

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Yeah.

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Except The Times of India, of course.

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Written by an anonymous source.

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A mysterious thick fog with burning chemical like smell has enveloped

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parts of the U.S.

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sparking conspiracy theories in social media and health concerns among local residents who have

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reportedly developed symptoms like sneezing, stomach cramps and feverishness.

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Also coincidentally this is also flu season.

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So just.

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Social media is a buzz with posts wondering if it is part of a terrorist plot or a government

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experiment.

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Other conspiracy theories worry about it being a chemical weapon and some suspect

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it connects with the mysterious drone sightings that occurred in December.

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By the way, I do think we have to like clear up this elephant in the room here.

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The drone sightings.

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They've been happening.

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We have a moral obligation only to cover fringe topics, which means if normal people

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are talking about it, it's past a fringe topic.

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We can't cover the drones.

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That's just that's our sacred oath that we took as podcast hosts here.

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It says it right in the name.

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We can continue podcasting if we were to cover it.

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Yeah, like we get our license taken away.

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So yeah.

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And that's not made up at all.

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That is not.

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We do have kind of a gut check on it and specifically people who talk to us if they

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bring up these topics and we cannot talk about it.

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So that's where that's basically.

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I don't understand why.

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Yeah.

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Because they don't even listen to the black.

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Yeah.

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You have to.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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That's why you're not going to hear about the drones until way down the line from here.

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Yeah.

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The sightings caught the attention of netizens when a flurry of posts appeared around spotting

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of the mysterious fog on December 29.

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Soon, many people claimed to have detected a chemical like odor and that it led to flu

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like symptoms.

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Many dubbed it fogs.

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Reporting unexplained loss of energy, a Florida resident told the Daily Mail that they started

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experiencing a series of symptoms after being outside in the fog for just 10 minutes.

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Well, within about an hour, I kept sneezing over and over for about three hours and my eyes

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were really puffy.

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I got very warm.

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I felt like I had a fever and my stomach was cramping.

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End quote.

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Claimed an unnamed Floridian, a family in Colorado.

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A family in Florida people.

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Oh yeah, they're true to their word.

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You are.

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There's one thing you can't eclipse a Floridian of.

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It's embellishing anything.

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A family in Colorado shared their experience,

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expecting that the sore throat, lethargy and stomach upset they were experiencing isn't

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due to food poisoning as they had earlier believed, but the effects of the fog.

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A resident said.

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Fun, how widespread is the fog?

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I still don't know.

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It's Colorado and Florida, apparently.

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It's going to keep going.

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They're pretty far apart.

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I don't know if they know that in India.

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A resident of St. Petersburg, Florida said the fog left a quote unquote toxic taste in his mouth.

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I am sick with a fever, body aches, vomiting and can't breathe.

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In the Minneapolis area, I know this is related to the fog since when is their fog in Minneapolis

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in December?

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End quote.

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Said a user.

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Quote.

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This fog isn't natural.

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There's something off about it.

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Too dense, too controlled.

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I've seen enough to recognize patterns and this feels engineered.

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End quote.

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Said another.

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I love these sources.

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Oh boy.

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Conspiracy theories abound around the mysterious fog.

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A video clipping posted on X shows a flurry of particles floating in the fog.

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The user suspect it's no usual weather phenomenon, but a sort of bio weapon.

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A Daily Mail report mentioned that the incidents bear an uncanny

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resemblance to quote operation sea spray on quote a covert biological warfare experiment

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carried out by the US Navy in 1950.

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Serratia marcescens and bat batulis globigie bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco

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Bay area at the time to ascertain how vulnerable a large American city may be to a bio weapon attack.

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At least one American died and 10 others were seriously sickened due to this.

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According to the Daily Mail, people on X are speculating that the government

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quote dumped a bunch of microbes on the country this week in the form of fog.

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End quote.

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Quote.

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In the form of fog.

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Yes, it tastes and smells like after setting off a lot of fireworks that self-forspell.

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End quote.

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One TikTok user wrote adding that it is quote freaking me out.

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End quote.

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Coincidentally, this was over the new year.

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What?

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There were fireworks everywhere.

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Fog, a cloud of tiny water droplets or ice crystals near the Earth's surface forms

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when the air temperature.

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We do not need to know this.

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You guys freaking know how fog works.

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Industrial emissions, the equal exhaust chemical releases or natural toxins like volcanic gases

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introduce harmful substances into the atmosphere.

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Moisture in the air combines with these pollutants.

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Water droplets in the fog can absorb and react with toxic chemicals creating acetic

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and hazardous particles.

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There can be ill effects of toxic smog and they list them.

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Respiratory issues, cardiovascular problems,

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eye and throat irritation, weakened immune systems and neurological effects.

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And with that, they end the article.

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So yeah, like I said, nobody really a for cute is covering this.

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And there's really not a lot other than speculation on X.

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It's just Florida Man and TikTok.

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Has anyone considered that this may possibly just been fog?

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May have just been fog and maybe people are just getting sick because it's a particularly

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bad flu season.

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Who knows?

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One speculation I heard because the word fog vid is being thrown around on X right now

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is basically within the atmosphere and a lot of right wing groups.

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There's been a lot of push on like weird health things.

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Like obviously with RFK Junior coming in, there's the anti-vax stuff.

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Also the the seed oils are apparently bad.

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So people have been dropping them.

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People are switching to the meat only diet and eating organ meats to stay healthy.

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They're still getting sick.

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So they're they're they're going down other conspiracy holes to explain how they're still

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getting sick.

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I'm looking at the fog vid to hashtag.

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I don't know if the first one is Toronto and it's clearly snow.

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I don't know that people know it.

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No, so yeah headlights look like I in fact think it might just be the Monday and people

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are getting sick and conspiracy theorists need a way to push it to not just be them

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getting sick because the things they've been told won't get them sick.

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Of course, it's also not that big of a thing.

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So I guess I don't know if you if you oh, go ahead.

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Even Bill Cock is like.

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I'm gonna put my phone away so that I don't just open that up.

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But yeah, I take it with what it is.

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Like it's the Daily Mail, the New York Post and the Times of India that I was able to find this on.

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They had no actual sources.

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They talked to no people in the scientific community or the public service and no epoch

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times or iPhone in Canada dot CA.

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No, even they're not covering it.

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That we should do any epoch times articles.

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I don't think we ever have.

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I've done one, you know, I have by accident.

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Yeah, you did.

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And that's how we got those episodes.

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You're welcome.

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But yeah, I think I don't know if you're going to go through fog holes, I guess,

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and let this like if you're worried about this worry, worry about regulations on the

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environmental impact of pollution there.

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You're welcome.

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Talk to your Congress people or whoever you can in the next 48 hours.

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Get back here.

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We'll regroup.

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Okay, bye.

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Bye bye.

