1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,000 From the unexplained to the mundane, join us on our journey to the French. 2 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Hello and welcome to Journey to the French, where oddities, obscurities, and omens convene on this lead-in to Halloween night. 3 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:47,000 We are your seasonally-app podcast host, Taylor and Chelsea, here today to regale you with our tales of creatures past and or present. 4 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,000 I'm not actually sure for certain with all of ours, but that's what we're going to do. 5 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 It is our annual Halloween creature feature. 6 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,000 And my goodness, did we find some good ones for you this time around? 7 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Not that I would tell you that there were bad ones had we found bad ones, but nevertheless, they are good ones. 8 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Promise. 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Yeah, yeah, that's not suspicious at all. 10 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:18,000 No, Chelsea, I happen to have not one but two cryptids to go over in this fantastic tale of creature features. 11 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:27,000 No, Chelsea, prepare yourself for this one, because we are going to be talking not just about a Sasquatch, but what is in fact called the Bat Squatch? 12 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Interesting. 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Would that not be the Mothman? 14 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:37,000 See, you would think, but these sightings are significantly different from Mothman sightings. 15 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 And specifically, these are West Coast. 16 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 They are all from California to Washington. 17 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Really? 18 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Yeah. 19 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Really? 20 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 It doesn't cross the border up? 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Well, there are some, but I actually avoided those ones because I was like, ah, that might be a Mothman. 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 We got to keep those for the Mothman episodes or the Mothman episodes. 23 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 And most importantly- 24 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Mothman up here? 25 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Yes, there are. 26 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I remember that from Mothman episodes. 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Yes. 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,000 But most importantly, Chelsea, I need to make it very precise in that they did not gender this cryptid with wings, which is very good. 29 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Thank God. 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 For once? 31 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Yes. 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000 This is the first? 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Yes. 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Outside of Penis Man, which I feel was aptly gendered. 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Yes, I was just going to say that one was fitting. 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Now somebody just needs to find him. 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Anyhow, let's get back to Bat Squatch. 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Now, Chelsea, you're going to notice a bit of a difference between Mothman and Bat Squatch when I talk about this. 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Yes, it is a flying man-like creature. 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000 However, it is just so different in many ways, particularly the fact that it's not man-like at all. 41 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 It is more ape than man. 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Sightings of Bat Squatch began in about the 1980s, shortly after the eruption of Mount St. Helens. 43 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Reports from this period describe it as a monkey-like creature with red eyes and wings that flew through the plume. 44 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Now, I couldn't find any actual first-hand accounts of the 1980s, but all the stories say it goes back to that, so okay, whatever. 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Now, in 1994, Brian Canfield was driving in Washington's Pierce County when his truck suddenly died. 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Canfield said he saw a large creature land in front of him. 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:18,000 He said it was human-like, nine feet tall with bat wings, and also sported a coat of blue fur. 48 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 As Canfield's report became well-known, a series of news reports followed. 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:31,000 A person named Butch Whitaker reported that he was in a private plane in the vicinity of Canfield's encounter with the Bat Squatch and encountered a flying Bat Squatch. 50 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 And this is from an article right around this time. 51 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Fear continues to dominate the men, women, and children of this town as a dark shadow looms overhead. 52 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Suspicions persevere and rumors spread as far too many sightings of a winged, bat-like creature go unexplained. 53 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:56,000 It started as childish rumors after the May 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens and has spread to community horror as the truth. 54 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Bat Squatch over Mount Rainier continues to emerge. 55 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 What an interesting starting point. 56 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Starting with the eruption of it. 57 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Yeah, and like, I saw nobody point out this, but I'm thinking he might have erupted out of the volcano. 58 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 That's what it sounds like. Well, that's what was implied. 59 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 They're implying it. They never specifically state it. 60 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Yeah, well, because who wants to foolishly put their name on that? 61 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 So they come from inner earth. 62 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:30,000 While preparing for a climb in early 1994, a local Mountaineer and liquor store owner, Butch Whitaker, managed to take several pictures of the beast during a rare midday flight. 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Butch Whitaker, expert in paranormal activity and unexplained phenomena, considers himself lucky to experience this encounter, but adds, quote, I'm not surprised. 64 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 These things happen to me all the time. 65 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:52,000 And quote, although government officials deny the existence of any photographic evidence, our staff experts closely scrutinized all photos and found no reasons to hold its position. 66 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:58,000 To date, four goats, five chickens, two cows and our prized pig are unaccounted for. 67 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:05,000 No humans are reported missing, but this is no measure of the never ending toll placed on this community's pride and mental well being. 68 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 All Pioneer Day festivities were canceled last week. 69 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:15,000 And with the recent loss of Priscilla Pig, scheduled dancing this Saturday presumably will fall prey to this monstrous being as well. 70 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Neither police chief Durham nor our mayor will estimate potential long term effects of continued attacks, but both were obviously saddened by the loss of Priscilla, which apparently was a big hit on the community, Priscilla being the prized pig. 71 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Yeah, no, I gathered as much and that's pretty sad for the community. 72 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 I mean, what community can withstand the loss of its prized pig? 73 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Almost none of them. 74 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 No, it quiet down for a while. 75 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And then in 1998, a driver of a truck calling logs in northern Oregon reported a collision with a bat's watch. 76 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:54,000 The bat's watch seen at this time, Chelsea is 15 feet tall with purple eyes and a nose and small wings. 77 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 This guy's story, he provided an account of it, but he's too long winded. 78 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 So I just cut to the chase of what he saw. 79 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 The creature stood 15 feet high when it was sitting hunched over in front of me. 80 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,000 I later discovered that this creature would measure an easy 30 feet from head to bottom once it was airborne. 81 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I say bottom because it didn't really have a tail. 82 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 The head of the animal is unusually small compared to its massive body. 83 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,000 The beady purple eyes would remind anyone who has the misfortune of seeing them. 84 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Believe that this creature could be of the Ratten family. 85 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:34,000 While other characteristics of the head also had many features of the Ratten family, being of noteworthy common is long pointed ears from which protruded from the top of the creature's head. 86 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,000 The nose was rather small, the most pronounced features of this nose being its unusual color of purple. 87 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 I believe this is the only creature in the world that has a purple nose. 88 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:49,000 The wingspan of the creature looked very small as if it couldn't fly with such small wing surface. 89 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,000 However, I later learned once the creature was airborne, the wings extend out to form a wingspan of a good 40 feet. 90 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 The most disturbing feature of the large beast was its hands. 91 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 It appeared to have four sets of them. 92 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Perhaps I could clarify that to mean two sets of clawed hands on the wings. 93 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 About midway and another set on the torso, almost as if they were human. 94 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 And this is in brackets. 95 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,000 I hadn't noticed the hands near the torso until another encounter with the large animal the next day. 96 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 And brackets. 97 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:26,000 The creature was very frightening to look at and could almost be a cross between a large bat and an excessively large furry human. 98 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:35,000 I believe the most accurate description would be that given by some of the local townsfolk whom later had the misfortune of countering the beast and naming it Bat Squatch. 99 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,000 And you see how I say this is like fundamentally different than Mothman, but it's still a fly humanoid. 100 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Yeah, I'm just taking this all in. 101 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The guy has pictures of it, you say? 102 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 I looked at the pictures, they're not great pictures. 103 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 I think I'm looking at one right now and it looks very fake. 104 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Is that the right one? 105 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 I would say yes. 106 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Okay, yep. 107 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,000 That guy who just happens to constantly run into the paranormal had fake photos. 108 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 That was going to be my second comment. 109 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I mean, I've never encountered one, but to encounter it twice in a very short amount of time. 110 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 I mean, that's pretty unlucky. 111 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 And so many hands. 112 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Good comments. 113 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 That's what you get from me right now. 114 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 What other thing? 115 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Did any talk? 116 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 No, genderless, right? 117 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,000 No, no, because like it's like Sasquatch, nobody talks about the penis. 118 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 People do talk about the boobs. 119 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 They do sometimes talk about the boobs, but not here. 120 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Let's fuck you up, you're on the Bat Squatch. 121 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Oh, I guess I can say both. 122 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Okay, except for just then. 123 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Yes. 124 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Now, Chelsea, this, it again goes dormant for a little while, but in 2009, near Mount Shasta in California, there's another sighting. 125 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 This is a first hand account. 126 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Me and my friend were hiking around Mount Shasta and out of one of the crevices flew out this big creature. 127 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 I mean, this thing was huge. 128 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,000 It was as tall as a man, as stocky as Hulk Hogan, and had leathery wings. 129 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,000 I believe the wingspan was at least 50 feet from one end to the other. 130 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 I was holding up my camera, but was paralyzed with fear that this thing flew by. 131 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 I didn't get a picture. 132 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Sorry. 133 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 But do you think this might be? 134 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Could it have been a pterodactyl? 135 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 It was flying or gliding fast. 136 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 It seemed to have a head of a bat. 137 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Thinking about it, it doesn't have the head of a pterodactyl. 138 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I just saw a picture of a pterodactyl and the heads are not similar. 139 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I would think it had the head of a bat or maybe like a fox. 140 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 The damn thing finally flew into a clump of trees and vanished. 141 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I heard you guys might be going back to Mount Shasta. 142 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 If you do, please look out for this thing. 143 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 If you see it, you will expletive all over yourself. 144 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 I kid you not. 145 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,000 I wouldn't normally just say expletive, but they put in XXXX, so I don't know what the expletive was. 146 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Yeah, and I thought they're gonna say like, if you see it, you'd know it to see it. 147 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 So don't confuse it with like an actual bird or something. 148 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 And, okay, well at least they measured it from wingtip to wingtip. 149 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Unlike the guy, I'm pretty sure he measured it from head to butt. 150 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Yeah, he said head to butt because it didn't have a tail. 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 I really like that. 152 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 And Relysa synced up his story too, man. 153 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 He just went on with his story. 154 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 So are there lots of sightings of this still? 155 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 No, it's actually incredibly rare. 156 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 It seems to go about a decade in between sightings. 157 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Oh, it's one of those guys. 158 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Yeah. 159 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,000 And he comes out every 10 years. 160 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Yeah, it's like a fucking Chikata. 161 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 So the last one was 2017? 162 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,000 No, no, there's actually, so 2009 was the story I just read. 163 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Then in 2011, there was another sighting, this person by the name of Phoenix Tiaris, 164 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 who apparently is a pseudonym. I don't know why they pick such a horrible pseudonym 165 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 if they're picking a pseudonym. 166 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 You just go with like, Bat-Squatch-Seer. 167 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 I think that's what you say if you're saying it as pseudonym. 168 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 And unless you just use the random like generator, like reddit, and you can't make it, 169 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 because everything's taken. 170 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Fair enough. 171 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 He was in his yard walking his dog, and he went to pick up the dog 172 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 when he saw something in the sky. 173 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 And he said, I saw something flying in the sky. 174 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 It had bat wings, blue fur, and had a face similar to eyes glowing red. 175 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 That doesn't make sense. 176 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Blue fur and had a face similar to eyes glowing red. 177 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 That's what it says. 178 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 It was about nine feet tall at least after I watched it just flew away. 179 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,000 And there was another sighting after this in Ohio, which is really outside of the range of this thing. 180 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 So an entire Spanish high school class spotted this thing 181 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 and said that it was flying at an incredible speed, 182 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 and it was about nine feet tall with a 20 to 30 foot wingspan. 183 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Oh, that's a cool one. Blue fur. 184 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 It doesn't say. 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 It seems to be a characteristic of it. 186 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I would assume, or it wouldn't be included. 187 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,000 But yeah, those are the distinct characteristics of bat squash over mothman, 188 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 is it has much more coloring than a moth person. 189 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Yeah, definitely. 190 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 And they seem like just fantastically huge compared to a mothman. 191 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Yeah, because mothman, other than its wings, is taller. 192 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Like eight feet. 193 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Basically, I think, yeah, no, I think they can get pretty tall. 194 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 I've never heard them described as like 50 feet wide though. 195 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,000 No, never like Hulk Hogan, that's for sure. 196 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Yeah, and they're never discovered as like big buff boys. 197 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:23,000 No, no, nobody ever described them as like particularly buff or ripped. 198 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Or bat like, they're than the wings. 199 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Never said bat face. 200 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Okay, cool. Bat squash, I'd like to be a fan. 201 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I'm a fan of him other than the wings. 202 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,000 I feel like no matter what, if I was to even see something that's regular every day. 203 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Bat, bird, duck. 204 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Anything with wings, yeah, you're not going to be good with. 205 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 No, not going to be good with it. 206 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Now, Chelsea, bat squash, like I said, it's a very rare sighting, 207 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:55,000 but it still does hold a place in the modern culture with rogue brewing in Oregon 208 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 having a specific line of beer called bat squash. 209 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 I saw that. 210 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Yeah. 211 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 But that is what we have on this friendly little dude. 212 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Now, Chelsea, I will turn this over to you. 213 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Yeah, so I'm just taking it all the way into left field for this. 214 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 My creature, a hope is a creature. 215 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Doppelganger, humans are creatures, right? 216 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 We're a creature. 217 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Yeah. 218 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,000 A doppelganger, oh no, I'm already fucking enough. 219 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Is a biologically unrelated lookalike or double of a living person if you've never heard of a doppelganger before. 220 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,000 And goes super far back, like to the beginning of humanity, probably. 221 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 In mythology and folklore, they are or can be portrayed as paranormal phenomena. 222 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 That's where I'm filing it, by the way, in case you wanted to know. 223 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And ghostly spirit vectors and apparitions of individuals that appear to those individuals 224 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,000 and their family and friends and can be seen as a harbinger of bad luck. 225 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 In other stories and traditions, they're equated with an evil twin. 226 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 And it actually traces its origins back to Germany. 227 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:12,000 The term itself, doppelganger, is a German lone-wear, literally translating to double goer or double walker, 228 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 depending on where you're getting your information from. 229 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 I got it from a lot of places. 230 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 That's why I came up with both. 231 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Its first known use appeared in the 70s in the book See Ben Cast by Jean-Paul, 232 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:30,000 who defined doppelganger, then doppeltganger, in the book's footnotes as a term for those who see themselves. 233 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Initially used for lookalikes in German folklore and literature, 234 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:39,000 the term now describes duplicates and doubles in an array of worldwide tradition. 235 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:46,000 The term doppelganger emerges in the 1700s and only recently was used to describe the phenomenon. 236 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 The idea of the doppelganger was already well established before then, 237 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,000 entails, you know, all over the place. 238 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Catherine Crowe's book on Paranormal Phenomenon, The Nightside of Nature, 1848, helped make the German word well-known, 239 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000 and the concept of alter egos and double spirits has appeared in folklore, 240 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,000 myths, religious concepts, and traditions of many cultures throughout human history. 241 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:18,000 German legend had spirits and specters of the living while English and Irish folklore featured fetches, 242 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 which are apparitions of a person living. 243 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:27,000 In Scandinavia, the vordodger had a habit of appearing in places prior to a person's actual arrival, 244 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000 and the activities of the Finnish etiilnen, a first comer. 245 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,000 In ancient Egyptian mythology, a ka was a tangible spirit double, 246 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,000 and it was a person with the same memories and feelings as the person to whom the counterpart belongs. 247 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,000 You really see a wide range of what a doppelganger represents in all of these eight. 248 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 They each kind of have a different association with it. 249 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And yet, all German, weirdly enough. 250 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Yeah, I'm gonna go on. There's a ton of them, but even now, like in Scandinavia, 251 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 they appeared before the actual person came, 252 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:07,000 and then this one in Egypt apparently had like memories of the person. 253 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Greek princess, presence, and Egyptian view of the Trojan War, 254 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 in which a ka of Helen misleads Paris helping to start the war. 255 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Many majority Muslim countries have the concept of a Karen or a Karen. 256 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,000 One has a K, one has a Q. I don't know how that would be pronounced differently, 257 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,000 but is it potentially benevolent or harmful spirit double of the same sex, race, 258 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,000 and parallel temperament as the person it's connected to? 259 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 It bears children, which are the spirit doubles of the person's children. 260 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,000 In some places, the Karen is the opposite sex of the person it represents. 261 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:50,000 When malicious, it often tries to persuade the person it's connected to into following their bad whims. 262 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Some Sufi mystics pictured the Karen as a devil residing in the blood and the hearts of humans. 263 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 It's more popular in some countries than others. 264 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000 For example, it's more popular in Egypt than Sudan. 265 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 So there's a ton of superstitions that surround the doppelgangers. 266 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Number one, seeing your doppelganger is an omen of death. 267 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:17,000 According to both English and German folklore, seeing your doppelganger often means that death will soon follow, 268 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 even more so if you see them more than once. 269 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:30,000 This idea is backed up by the many stories throughout the time that of Tolled Tales where someone died shortly after seeing their doppelganger multiple times, like Lincoln. 270 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Soon after his election in 1860, Abraham Lincoln saw his reflection doubled in the mirror, 271 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 with one face beside the other with a ghostly pallor. 272 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:46,000 He tied to show his wife the apparition, I am assuming that should be tried, 273 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 which appeared two more times when she was not present. 274 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 While Mary Todd was at first worried about this behavior, 275 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:58,000 she took the vision as a sign that he would serve two terms, but would die before the end of the second. 276 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 What an odd way to take that. 277 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 That is a very weird way to take that. 278 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 I know, right? 279 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 That's a very specific way to take it. 280 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 I know. 281 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 We now know. 282 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Okay, number two, we're back to another superstition around doppelgangers. 283 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Doppelgangers give malicious advice. 284 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 They are generally seen as a bad omen if they don't specifically mean death. 285 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Many have always believed that the doppelganger is basically an evil twin. 286 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,000 They supposedly attempt to purposely give you bad advice in a malicious way. 287 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,000 They might also try to plant sinister ideas in their victims' mind. 288 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Number three, if someone else sees your doppelganger, it means you might be very sick. 289 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Number four, your doppelganger is a ghostly double that lived before you. 290 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Number five, it is your spirit double. 291 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Number six, it is your evil double from the underworld, or maybe your their evil double from the underworld. 292 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:58,000 That has to be the most awkward thing, the fact that one of you has to be evil, and yeah, you might not actually be the nice one. 293 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 What would you think? 294 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Like, if somebody saw it, I mean... 295 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 I've heard people tell me that, like, they saw somebody who looked like me before. 296 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Like, that happens, like, fairly consistently. 297 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I don't know what point you can say, no, they were your doppelganger. 298 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Like, it was you, right? 299 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Number seven, even a portrait of a doppelganger can be a bad omen. 300 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 How do you know it's a picture of a doppelganger, though? 301 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 I gotta read it now. 302 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Today, it's pretty common to find old portraits in paintings of someone who looks exactly like someone living now. 303 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Oh, I get it. 304 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 I think super old portraits of a person who looks just like a popular celebrity. 305 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,000 I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be a celebrity, probably. 306 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 This isn't a great sign either. 307 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:49,000 The Canalos Indians of South America hated portraiture and photography because they believed the pictures captured the soul of the person. 308 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:54,000 And this is still a belief today because many cultures see portraiture as a representation of the soul. 309 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 They believe that the soul pictures become the double. 310 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Number eight, it's a sign of an alternate universe, and you can use your imagination on that. 311 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,000 So, there are a few examples other than Abraham Lincoln that we so nicely edited together for you. 312 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 So, it probably sound like I just had the information ready. 313 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 George Tye Trion. 314 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,000 A Victorian age example was the supposed appearance of Vice Admiral Sir George Trion. 315 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,000 He was said to have walked through the drawing room of his family home in Eaton Square, London, 316 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000 looking straight ahead without exchanging a word to anyone. 317 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:37,000 In front of several guests at a party being given by his wife on 22nd of June 1893, 318 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,000 while he was supposed to be in a ship of the Mediterranean Fleet, maneuvering off the coast of Syria. 319 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Subsequently, it was reported that he had gone down with a ship. 320 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,000 HMS Victoria the very same night after it collided with the HMS Camper Down, 321 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 following the unexplained and bizarre order to turn the ship in the direction of the other vessel. 322 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Ooh, spooky. 323 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 That took a twist at the end. 324 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:08,000 And it also brings up a point to me at what point or where do we draw the line between ghost and doppelganger? 325 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 That's a good question. 326 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Because that to me seems like a ghost if he had, you know, died around the same time. 327 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Because it's his soul. 328 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:22,000 So maybe that's where you, I mean, you'd have to really draw a line on that one where it comes to souls. 329 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Because you can't have the same soul as your doppelganger because it's evil, probably. 330 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Or it's the good one and I'm the bad one. 331 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Wouldn't they just both be bad and be the same person for that story? 332 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Yeah, yeah, he's probably just a bad guy. 333 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 So they're both evil, obviously. 334 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:44,000 King Umberto the first of Italy, a popular story about King Umberto the first of Italy. 335 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Tells of the king eating in a restaurant and discovering the owner was his dead ringer double. 336 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:57,000 The story goes that upon talking to the man, Umberto learned of a string of coincidences between their lives, 337 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:03,000 such as the two men had been born in the same town on the same day and had both married a woman in the same name. 338 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 And the restaurant had opened on the day of Umberto's coronation. 339 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Umberto's assassination in 1900 is said to have happened the same day that he heard the news that the restaurant tour had died in a shooting. 340 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Okay, I don't know that I would think doppelganger. 341 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Some creepies going on there for sure. 342 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 I'm not really convinced of these examples, so I'm gonna jump over to Reddit. 343 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Let's see. 344 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 User EGlamma. 345 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 I have a pretty interesting one. 346 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,000 My partner who passed away in 2020 had a VW van. 347 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 He decorated it with stickers on the side windows. 348 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Last year I was driving through my village and at some point I looked in the rear view mirror to see a van that looked just like his following behind me. 349 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,000 It caught my attention because the van had been sold to a family who lived four hours away. 350 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,000 I slowed down for the van to catch up to me so I could get a better look. 351 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,000 My heart dropped when I noticed the driver looked exactly like my past partner. 352 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Not only that, the passenger looked exactly like me. 353 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000 We finally came to a crossroad where I turned left and they went straight on. 354 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I could see the same stickers as they drove over. 355 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 I absolutely freaked out and pulled my car over to calm down. 356 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Extremely weird and I think about it every day. 357 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Okay. 358 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,000 So they just kind of saw somebody that looked like somebody they knew. 359 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Well it seemed to like the stickers seemed to match in everything on the same exact van. 360 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,000 And the two passengers looked like her ex-boyfriend and her. 361 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 That one's kind of strange. 362 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Yeah. 363 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Do you think coincidence even like the same down to the same stickers on the van? 364 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Yeah, I guess. 365 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000 User hot heat 5042. 366 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,000 I've only ever had it happen in my dreams personally. 367 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:52,000 This treatment happened multiple times in different ways, but it's like something pretending to be my mother 368 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,000 and then she comes in the room and the other one attempts to kill me. 369 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 I think it's because there's some kind of thing in my house that pretends to be my mom sometimes 370 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 and it's visualized in my dreams. 371 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000 That's fucking creepy. 372 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Our hypnotic bacon 28. 373 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 That's a nice easier name. 374 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 I've had more than I care to. 375 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Currently living at my dad's house and there's one here that seems to like the basement. 376 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 What? 377 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 A doppelganger that just takes like what lives in the basement? 378 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Lives in your basement specifically. 379 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 I don't have a basement. 380 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,000 If I go into the furthest corner of the basement alone for any reason at night, 381 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,000 it's more likely to come upstairs that night to reveal itself usually by walking around so its footsteps are clear. 382 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 What the fuck is this guy talking about? 383 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 It used to mimic a specific cat. 384 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,000 This is not a doppelganger. 385 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 You got to be kidding me. 386 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 I got to go on. 387 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Committed now. 388 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000 I want to see what's happening. 389 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,000 It used to mimic a specific cat we used to have from that far corner of the basement. 390 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000 What? 391 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 And only at night when I'm the only one still awake. 392 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 This stopped when the cat died. 393 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000 It has mimicked my entire immediate family. 394 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I was home alone early one morning when my dad got home from work when I heard it in my sister's room. 395 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Sounded like her talking to one of the cats. 396 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 One night while I was still in high school and we had the computer in the kitchen, 397 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I heard my dad talking to me and turned around to see nobody there. 398 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 The other night it decided to mimic a cat. 399 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,000 We had that like to jump on some cases of pop after I got up from the computer to grab a drink. 400 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000 I saw no cat there but I watched the cardboard cave in from the wait as I passed by. 401 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Maybe he's confused about what a doppelganger is? 402 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 I moved back to this house in late June this year. 403 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:36,000 My first Sunday back I woke up around 5am from a nightmare about a demon mimicking people. 404 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Possessing the person it imitated walking their body into a secluded location. 405 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Leaving their body and scaring them further into the location to kill them without their body being found. 406 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 It did this to hundreds throughout the nightmare. 407 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:57,000 After the last one I bolted upright in bed and heard from a couple of feet away my own heavy breathing out of pace with my own as though it mocked me. 408 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 It stayed invisible and walked through the bedroom door toward the kitchen. 409 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 I got up, unlocked the door and looked around the house to make sure those first steps weren't my dad. 410 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 He was sound asleep. 411 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 I think this guy is confused about what a doppelganger is. 412 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Those are Reddit but I just want to share a few other ones. 413 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I don't feel like any of the stories that I just told were actually doppelganger stories. 414 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Maybe the Van one but they also didn't get anything bad from it. 415 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Which makes it kind of not really a doppelganger story. 416 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 There's a couple I want to share. 417 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:42,000 I do have a personal friend that has said that they had an encounter where they're just sitting around and they actually saw themselves come into the room. 418 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000 That I would say would be a doppelganger type scenario. 419 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:53,000 And I know they had said that the doppelganger entity kind of looked shocked to see them there. 420 00:26:53,000 --> 00:27:02,000 And the second one I want to bring up is one that I've heard fairly often. I can't tell you if it's on coast to coast AM. 421 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I want to say it's from there. 422 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 It's from some type of podcast that's fairly well known. 423 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 It might be Jim Harold's campfire actually. 424 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 It's about this guy. 425 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 He saw an entity when he was a kid. 426 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:23,000 And then he grows up and is in the exact opposite side of that situation. And it turns out that he saw like time got screwed up somehow. 427 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 And it was him that he saw when he was a kid. 428 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Just the situation replayed but the other way around. 429 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,000 So I think both of those are way better doppelgangers situations than I provided in this. 430 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 As what might happen sometimes. 431 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Because as I say I like to be as surprised as you when I tell some of my encounters. 432 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000 So that's my doppelganger creature. 433 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Well that's good and Chelsea. 434 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:56,000 I really like the fact that we learned throughout these stories that people do not have a firm grasp of what a doppelganger is. 435 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Because it's a German word. We don't speak German. 436 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:05,000 No. And German you could it's a inferior language unfortunately English to German. 437 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:11,000 No sorry. No it's a superior language because it's the only way that the aliens will talk to us. 438 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Yeah. German right. English is the inferior language. 439 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,000 And we just don't quite comprehend doppelganger German word. 440 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 It's an imperfect language. It just can't convey it. 441 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Oh yeah. We just proved it. 442 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 I heard that you might have one more creature. 443 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Yes I do and Chelsea this might be the most terrifying creature that I have ever done a story on. 444 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Really. 445 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Yes it is great. 446 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I'm glad we're ending on this then for our Halloween episode. 447 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000 And Chelsea let us learn about the Enfield horror. 448 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Let us. Haven't we heard about this before. 449 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000 I don't know for sure perhaps but I don't think so. 450 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 I think it came up briefly in the Warren episode. 451 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Oh yes you know what that might be correct. 452 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Yeah they showed up and got kicked out. That's all we talked about. 453 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,000 So this is how this story starts and this is like the most bizarre creature I've ever heard of. 454 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 I didn't know there's a creature. 455 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Yes it's the horror. 456 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 I thought it was a poltergeist. 457 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 No oh god no. 458 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000 Okay. 459 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:13,000 On the night of April 25th 1973 a young boy named Greg Garrett claimed to have been attacked by a beast while playing in his backyard. 460 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:20,000 He described the beast as having three legs grayish and slimy skin short claws and reddish eyes. 461 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 The creature apparently stamped on the boy's feet with his own three feet. 462 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Okay. 463 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Pairing his tennis shoes to shreds. 464 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Greg then ran away from the feed and back into the relatively safe area of his parents house. 465 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Now this is the first time anybody sees the Enfield horror but it's not the last and it keeps going from here. 466 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,000 That's its name. 467 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 The Enfield horror is what people call it yes. 468 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 The creature itself okay. 469 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Yeah. 470 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:54,000 At about 9 30 that night the Garrett's neighbor Henry McDaniel and his wife returned home to find two of their children Henry Jr. and Lil terrified. 471 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:02,000 The children claimed that a thing had been trying to break into the house through the door and a window mounted air conditioner while their parents were gone. 472 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,000 It was then they start to hear scratching at the front door. 473 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Now Henry assuming as a stray animal just goes and opens the door and he sees the exact same red eyed three-legged monstrosity that the Garrett's child had seen like an hour before staring him straight away. 474 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,000 McDaniel backs away slams the door stumbles to the nearby closet and grabs a 22 pistol. 475 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:36,000 While the Horrify family waits Henry returned to the door through it back open revealing the exact same thing that he has seen and he just opens fire on it. 476 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:45,000 He describes it as three legs on a short body two little short arms coming out of its breast area and two pink eyes as big as flashlights. 477 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 It's the four and a half feet tall and was grayish colored. 478 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 It was trying to get into the house. 479 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:56,000 McDaniel's open fire as I said hitting it immediately but instead of falling to the ground wounded or dead. 480 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:07,000 The creature merely hisses like a wildcat at the frightened homeowner and Henry who had fired four shots at the thing assured anyone who asked that he had not missed his quarry. 481 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 He would always say when I fired that first shot I know I hit it. 482 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Henry McDaniel then claimed the beast went off into the night covering approximately 50 feet in a series of just three astonishing leaps before disappearing into the brush along the L and N railroad embankment in front of his house. 483 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:39,000 McDaniel's promptly calls to the local authorities but when Illinois State Troopers who responded to the call arrived seeing the only evidence of the counter that remained were a series of scratches in the siding of McDaniel's home and dog like prints in the yard. 484 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:49,000 What made the prints so unusual was the fact that they had six toe pads and even more intriguingly they represented a three-footed animal with one track being slightly smaller than the others. 485 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 There's actual physical evidence. 486 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Yeah, if McDaniel believed that this encounter with the unknown were a thing of the past he would soon realize that he was mistaken. 487 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000 On the eve of May 6th he was startled awake in the dead of the night by the howling of a neighborhood dog. 488 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:12,000 McDaniel pulled himself out of bed, once again claimed his firearm and with what must have been great trepidation opened the front door. 489 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:22,000 At the time his encounter with this creature would not be so intimate and he claims to have watched the thing at some distance languidly negotiating the trestles of the railroad tracks near his home. 490 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 And this is a direct quote from him. 491 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000 I saw something moving on the railroad track and there it stood. 492 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 I didn't shoot at it or anything. 493 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 It started on down the railroad track and it wasn't in a hurry or anything. 494 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:42,000 It wasn't long before the press got wind of the weirdness and came out in full force, but it wasn't until McDaniel's second report the media frenzy truly kicked into overdrive. 495 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:57,000 White County Sheriff Roy Poshard Jr. was so perturbed by the sudden influx of press and curiosity seekers he threatened to incarcerate McDaniels if he didn't stop inciting panic by spreading his wildly terrifying tale. 496 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:04,000 To make matters worse, well-armed posseys of amateur monster hunters began patrolling the area near the LNN railroad track, citing, 497 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:13,000 It was on one such expedition that five young men allegedly had a run-in with a creature identical to the one that Garrett and McDaniel encountered, 498 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 with the notable addition being that they described the thing as being hairy. 499 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:32,000 They discovered the beast hiding in the underbush and proceeded to open fire on it, but their bullets again were unable to cause mortal injury and the monster bolted off at speeds that the eyewitnesses surmised was greatly in excess of any that a human being could achieve. 500 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:41,000 The final eyewitness to this improbable creature was Rick Rainbow, the news director of radio station WWKI in Kokomo, Indiana. 501 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:51,000 The three other unnamed individuals claimed to have seen a gray, stooping five-foot-tall entity lurking outside an abandoned house not far from Garrett and McDaniel's home. 502 00:33:51,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Although they did not have nearly as close an encounter as the previous sets of eyewitnesses, Rainbow and his crew did manage to do one thing that the others had not. 503 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:13,000 They recorded the monster's disturbing scream, and this unfortunately I could not find the audio. I wish I could because it would be a great addition here, but apparently there is a recording of the screen that this thing gives off. 504 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:21,000 It was then that noted cryptozoologist Lauren Coleman arrived on the scene to investigate eyewitness claims, as well as the sound recordings. 505 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Coleman also heard the haunting cry of the creature while searching an area where eyewitnesses claimed to have seen the thing, as a quote from them, 506 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:39,000 I traveled to Enfield, interviewed witnesses looked at the siding of the house, the Enfield monster had damaged, and heard some strange screeching banshee-like sounds and walked away bewildered. 507 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:49,000 In the July 1974 edition of Fate magazine, Lauren Coleman and Jerome Clark featured the Enfield horror in an article entitled Swamp Slops Invade Illinois. 508 00:34:49,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Coleman even chronically discussing this intriguing case with famed paranormal investigator as well as best-selling author of the Mothman prophecies, John Keel, in his book Mothman and Other Curious Encounters, so maybe that's where we got it from. 509 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Actually, if you want to discuss it now, I was confusing this. Apparently there's more than one place named Enfield. The one that I was thinking is, I quickly found out after you said that, is the Enfield haunting. That one is a poltergeist. 510 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:33,000 It's probably good that we're clarifying this, because I was also confused. I actually haven't heard of the Enfield horror, in which the Enfield haunting is the one that Ed and Lorraine Warren showed up for and were kicked off, not the Enfield horror. 511 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000 So yeah, that's what that was. Very strange coincidence. 512 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Yeah, it is a strange coincidence, and that there is another famous paranormal person involved in this too. 513 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Anyhow, there's a direct quote here. This reminds me of my exchange with Keel in 1973 when we were discussing the news reports out of Illinois from Enfield. 514 00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:10,000 On April 25th, 1973, Mr. and Mrs. Henry McDaniel returned to their home and Henry had an encounter with a thing that looked like it had three legs, two pink eyes, as big as flashlights, and in short arms on a four and a half foot tall, greyish-colored body along the LNN railroad tracks in front of his house. 515 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:19,000 A few months later, Coleman would contrast as the Enfield investigation with another he conducted regarding a legendary creature that many assume was also of alien origin. 516 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,000 A melon-headed monster known as the Dover Demon, which I believe we've done as a creature feature before. 517 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:35,000 The Enfield horror was my case investigation. It was much different than the Dover Demon, however, and was more like a combo phantom kangaroo, devil monkey, and swamp-aim situation. 518 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:51,000 The investigators have suggested that the monster was associated with a spat of UFO sightings that allegedly plagued the region during the same period, and those with the more supernatural bent have averted that this beast, with its tendencies to be aggressive towards humans and try to break it into their homes, 519 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 has all the airmarks of a classic demon attack. 520 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:07,000 This would not be the first time that it was suggested that there is an apparent ET occult connection with this area. This would not be the first time that it has been suggested that there is an apparent ET occult connection. 521 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:21,000 While the phenomenon are not directly related, the primary witness in the Northport Devil case, Michael Revely, also claims that the creatures that have been skulking around the house he shares with his son in the West Florida community of Northport 522 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000 are of both extraditional demon origin, making them in effect aliens from hell. 523 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:42,000 It should be noted that between the years 1941 and 42 in the sleepy village of Mount Vernon, less than 40 miles away from Enfield, there was a similar spat of encounters involving an anomalous, leaping beast that terrorized the local populace and was reputedly responsible for numerous animal deaths in the region. 524 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:54,000 High witnesses claim that the Mount Vernon monster was vaguely baboon-like and able to leap 20-40 feet in a single bound. Is it possible that the Enfield horror help whatever it may be is working on 30 year cycles? 525 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:08,000 While there are no reputable accounts of the creature coming in the 21st century, one cannot entirely count out the possibility that the thing is a long, summering anatomical oddity that rears its head every so often to feed on animals and terrify locals. 526 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Oh my god, that's the second one in this episode. Or stranger yet. Yeah. Yeah. That seems to have a cycle. There's too many coincidences in this episode. 527 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:25,000 But yeah, I absolutely love this. And unfortunately, Chelsea, like the... I heard an explanation for this that kind of makes sense. It's an escaped kangaroo. 528 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Okay, it could. 529 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:44,000 It doesn't make sense with some of it. But just three legs, the fact that the kangaroos have such a sturdy tail to support themselves. They do have dog-like paws on the back. And there was an escaped kangaroo, however, it was like 100 miles away at the time. 530 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,000 So it doesn't necessarily get that fixed up. 531 00:38:48,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Yes. Okay, so apparently there's some weird shake going on in Illinois, which is where this infield is because really they've had this happen in multiple locations. And then you got Chicago, who has a moth problem, mothman problem, mothperson problem, my bad. 532 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Huh. I like that one. Yeah. And it's like, this is just like such a bizarre beast and it got shot like a lot. Yeah. It's just collecting bullets. Yeah. 533 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:32,000 That's pretty crazy. I don't know what I would do. I mean, I definitely wouldn't open my door if this was going on to see what would investigate a thing. I don't care what it is. I wouldn't be opening my door. I wouldn't be rolling down my window if I was in a car. 534 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Huh. I quite like that one. Yeah. And I think it's a great one to leave these people with four Halloween days. I think we've had a pretty good Halloween season. And with that... Oh yeah. With always. 535 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Yeah. With that. I have been Taylor, here with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank you all for listening. We'll see you next week. 536 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:31,000 I'm out on your social media of choice. I bet you we are there. And if you really want to communicate with us and give us ideas for new episodes or tell us that we're wrong and terrible, either way, please send us an email at Journey to the Fringe at gmail.com. 537 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:46,000 I'll see you in the next episode.