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Oh, it's me. Okay. Again, guys. I shouldn't put you on the spot like this. You know,

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you know the topics at this point, right? Yeah. But I'm picking for you this one because I made

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the dealer's choice category and that's what I'm picking from today because I came across something

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that I really liked and I ought to share. I don't know if this is too mainstream, but it fits into

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our overall gringiness. Okay. This one's filed under dealer's choice. However, I would also see it

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fitting under feeling like an update and feeling bad. So I'm going to click on it here just now.

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And this title is from the New York Post and it is from March 5th, 2004. It is still relevant,

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just I'll have you know, by Shannon Thaler. And it's an update, you say? Yeah, you'll know why

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it's an update once I start talking. So this one's titled, Electric Vehicles Release More Toxic

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Emissions Are Worse For The Environment Than Gas-Powered Cars. Okay. It's the New York Post.

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It's incredibly conservative. I take a lot of things where they're kind of counterculture at

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face value. Yeah, I was trying to fit there. I had a topic in mind and this one fit what I wanted

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to talk about the most. Let's just read it. I'm interested just because of one of the timelines.

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That's early on with electric cars. 2024. Oh, I'm sorry. I heard 2004. Oh, 2024. You missed the 20.

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Let's just get into it. And then we maybe it's the discussion you came for today. It's a mini

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though. We can't talk that much. Electric vehicles release more toxic particles into the atmosphere

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and are worse for the environment than their gas-powered counterparts, according to a

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resurface study. The study published by Emissions Data Firm Emissions Analytics was released in

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2022 but has attracted a wave of attention this week after being cited in the Wall Street Journal

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of Sunday. It found that brakes and tires on EVs released 1850 times more particle pollution

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compared to moderate tailpipes, chap-efficient exhaust filters, and gas-powered vehicles

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emissions to new lows. Emissions comes from tire wear. As heavy cars drive on light duty tires,

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most often made with synthetic rubber made from crude oil and other fillers and additives,

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they deteriorate and release harmful chemicals into the air according to emissions analytics.

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Because EVs are on average 30% heavier, brakes and tires on the battery-powered cars wear out

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faster than on standard cars. Right, we actually talked about this in our week, all the ways we

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didn't know we're polluting episode. Yeah, the tire wear, right? Yeah. Basically, they're saying,

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let me continue and then we'll see. Emissions Analytics found that tire wear emissions on

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half a metric ton of battery weight in the EV are more than 400 times as great as direct

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exhaust particle emissions. Through reference, half of a metric ton is equivalent roughly

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1,100 pounds. The most popular EV in the US, Tesla's Model Y boasts a lithium-ion battery that weighs

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in at a hefty 1,836 pounds. Another sought-after electric model, Ford's F-150 Lightning Pickup

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Truck also has an approximately 1,800 pound battery. Study throws doubt on the practicality

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of the Biden administration's EV mandates, which tout electric cars as zero-emission vehicles,

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in a quest to force two-thirds of new cars in America to be all-electric by the year 2032.

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California lawmakers have similarly referred to EVs as producing zero emissions because they

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don't have tailpipes per the journal, which added that the label is deceptive. Electric cars still

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use tires made from petroleum that create particle pollution as they wear. Still, this will not be

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something that stops electrification. Nick Molden, the founder and CEO of Emissions Analytics

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Hillpost. I'm going to stop here. Basically, you saw in that last two sentences that my whole

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complaint about the New York Post. The reason they're doing that is because they found something

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that goes against the Democrats. Basically, the point that I was just trying to make from this

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article is that electric vehicles aren't as good for the environment as they're being told. They

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are. This one comes in the form of tires and how they burn through tires at a much faster rate

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than other vehicles. And we learned in our previous episode that tires are hugely bad.

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They're polluting in ways that we don't really contemplate that well. They're terrible for

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fish. You've got to remember, anytime it rains, every particle that's on that road is going into

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the rivers. I need everybody to understand me when I say this. I am against electric cars

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for completely different reasons than the New York Post is in here. It's night and day for the

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reasons that we would be. I agree. They're not great for the environment. Are they better for

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the environment than gas-powered vehicles, though? Kind of a little bit. My whole problem with it

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is that we should be moving away from automobiles as the main form of transportation. I mean,

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that makes sense. Honestly, when you're looking at a lot of the things that are popping up in

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cities now, especially electric bikes and scooters, much better ways to go, but we should be on trains.

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Just going to leave that part there. When they're talking about this polluting the air,

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they're completely discounting the fact that they're not even talking about carbon dioxide or

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things that aren't as toxic per se as a pollutant. They're just disregarding that. When they're

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talking about this from the New York Post point of view, also, they said that, look, our filters are

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great on the tailpipes. It's a great talking point, but that's still going to end up somewhere.

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It's just not in the air right there. And I went on the EPA Environmental Protection Agency in the

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U.S. They kind of have this question posted as myths about electric vehicles. Myth number one,

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electric vehicles are worse for the climate than gasoline cars because of power plant emissions,

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which is something they were kind of talking about. EVs have no tailpipe emissions, generating the

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electricity used to charge EVs, however, may create carbon pollution. The amount varies widely based

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on how local power is generated. To the extent that more renewable energy sources like wind and

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solar are used to generate electricity, the total greenhouse gases associated with EVs could be

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even lower if we change over. That was actually a bad thing to bring up. I don't know why I brought

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it up. I thought there were more in there. Apparently the New York Post was a bad thing to

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bring up as well. But really, I just wanted to find an article that was talking about how many

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tires the test was they're burning through when you say they're burning. Yeah, no. And that's a

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fair point. And I have used the New York Post before. It's just something that I always preface.

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It is the New York Post. Overall, they might be saying something right, but it's not for the right

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reasons that always pisses me off. So yes, I agree. There is a problem with the weight of cars. We

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should be moving away from cars. And that's where we fundamentally disagree with the New York Post.

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Again, my message was just they're burning through tires. It's simpler than the New York Post.

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They just had the first article that agreed with me, kind of, as far as the simple point I wanted

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to make. And I think it probably has to do with the regenerative braking as well. But I don't

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know about that. I couldn't tell you either. I don't know. I don't even know if they fundamentally

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use the same braking system. But I do technically agree with some of the things they're saying in

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that there are problems with pollution with electric vehicles that we didn't have to deal

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with before. They discount the standard issues of pollution that gasoline power cars are emitting.

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They're just completely disregarded for them. That's that. Something to keep in mind when

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you're looking at that and take it with a grain of salt. So they're that. I think that's a good thing.

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The main thing to keep in mind is that Chelsea wanted to tell you that Tesla's go through more

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tires. She sure did. Good work, Chelsea. Remember that for 48 hours. Goodbye.