1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,520 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Now I'm going to level with you guys. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,000 I had to research and write the script all in the same week that the Elden Ring DLC 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,120 came out, so I haven't been outside in a long time. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,560 We are your hosts, Taylor and Chelsea. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,280 Here today, Chelsea, I need to tell you the thought process to how I came to this episode. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Before I tell you, I can tell you the episode, it's about Daniel Humes. 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,120 Okay, I don't know who that is. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,360 I had a great idea for an episode. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Famous people who believed in psychics or had psychic friends that they relied on. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,200 I ended up getting 20 pages on one guy, so we had to do him. 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 And that is Daniel Humes. 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,360 There might be an episode sometime in the future about celebrity psychics, but at this time, 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,480 it is just Daniel Humes that we're going to be talking about. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Hold on, do I know this? 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,920 You might know him. 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,240 I might switch also between calling him Daniel Humes and Daniel Holmes because it's spelt 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,320 H-O-M-E, but it's pronounced Humes. 20 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,280 No, I've never seen this guy in my life. 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Well, prepare for a ride. 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,640 He is a very interesting character. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,320 He has a real interesting family dynamic that we're just going to get right into from the 24 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:22,320 start. 25 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,600 It's the like long Jim Morrison hair, right? 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,120 Yeah, for some of the pictures. 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Oh, there's one of someone levitating. 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Yeah, we're going to get to that. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Daniel Humes' mother is Elizabeth Betsy Hume. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,640 She is a seer born in Scotland, as were many of her predecessors. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Apparently, it's a family trait that they are just seers in Scotland here. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,160 And apparently in the family, the gift of second sight, as they called it, was often 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,600 seen as a curse as it foretold instances of tragedy and death. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Humes' father, William Hume, was the illegitimate son of Alexander, the 10th Earl of Hume. 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,560 And William was described as a bitter, morose, and unhappy man who drank and was often aggressive 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,560 towards his wife. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Hold on, I have an important question. 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,520 Why are we pronouncing this Hume? 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,520 That's how it's pronounced. 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,520 It says who? 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,520 The Scottish. 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Oh, the Scottish. 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Of course they're pronouncing that it's not home. 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Okay. 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Yeah, I know. 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Now, Elizabeth and William end up having eight kids, six sons, two daughters. 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,800 The eldest, John, later worked in the Ballerno mill and eventually managed a paper mill 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,800 in Philadelphia. 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,040 I don't know why this is important for the story, but apparently it is. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Mary drowned in a stream at the age of 12 in 1846, and Adam died at sea at the age of 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:38,800 17 while en route to Greenland, which Hume says he saw in a vision reportedly confirmed 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,160 five months later. 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Not written down anywhere, just something that he said when he was a kid. 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Quite the family dynamics going on, but this is the weird part. 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Daniel Hume was Elizabeth's third child and was born March 20th, 1833. 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,920 The one year old Hume was deemed a delicate child having quote, a nervous temperament 57 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:04,080 and quote, and was passed to Elizabeth's childless sister, Mary Cook. 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,560 She lived with her husband in the coastal town of Portobello outside of Edinburgh. 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,880 According to Hume, his cradle rocked by itself at the Cook's house and he had visions of 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,560 a cousin's death who lived in Linlithgau to the west of Edinburgh. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,960 Hume's a nervous temperament so they gave him to the childless aunt. 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,680 As you do I guess back in the day, but not so much anymore. 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Oh we don't? 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,680 I don't think so. 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,680 Maybe we still do. 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,680 I don't know, I didn't have eight kids. 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,520 At some point between 1838 and 1841, this family that has adopted Daniel immigrated 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,600 to the US, sailing in the cheapest class of steerage as they could not afford a cabin. 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,760 After landing in New York, the Cook's, which is the family's last name, traveled to Greenville 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 near Norwich, Connecticut. 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Hume attended school in Greenville where he was known as Scotchy. 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 I wonder why they named him that by the other students. 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Is that funny or mean? 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 I think it's mean. 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Like it's the 1830s so I think that's the only thing they know is meanness. 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Oh sure. 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,320 And dysentery. 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,760 No it's funny and mean as well as dysentery. 79 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,520 And maybe a little bit infectious. 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Yeah. 81 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,480 At this time Daniel makes a friend named Edwin. 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,880 Apparently these two like to read the Bible together. 83 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,200 You know the fun stuff going on in the day. 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 They made a pact. 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Daniel's leaving town like they're moving and they make this pact and this isn't a 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 normal one like hey we'll meet up when we're 18. 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:29,320 No it's if one of us dies we have to try to contact the other after we die. 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,320 As you do. 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Why haven't I made a pact like that yet? 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,880 I don't know. 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,880 You do it with someone. 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Maybe I'll do it this weekend. 93 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,920 Hume moves to Troy, New York which is about 155 miles away from Greenville and Hume lost 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,760 contact with Edwin until one night when Hume saw a brightly lit version of him standing 95 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,600 at the foot of the bed which gave Hume the feeling that his friend was dead. 96 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Edwin made three circles in the air before disappearing and a few days later a letter 97 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:57,680 arrived stating that Edwin had died of malignant dysentery and yes I did know that she was 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,600 coming so I made sure that we talked about it earlier. 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Three days before Hume's mission. 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,600 Percent of the letter. 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,600 I would assume family. 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,600 I don't know. 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,720 Do they have a list in case someone dies of dysentery? 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,800 You gotta write a letter to you to tell them? 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Don't you have your dysentery death list for people? 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,800 Do you keep it at or do you keep it on behalf of someone else? 107 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Oh no, your parents can't keep it definitely because they're more apt to die of dysentery 108 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,800 before the war ends. 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Okay and this is my favorite part. 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,640 This just shows how ridiculous this family is. 111 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,920 Few years later Hume and his aunt returned to Greenville and Elizabeth, Hume, emigrated 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,440 from Scotland to the US with the surviving members of the family to live in Waterford, 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Connecticut which was 12 miles away from Cook's house. 114 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,840 Hume and his mother's reunion however was short lived as Elizabeth foretold that she's 115 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:48,920 going to die in 1850. 116 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,200 So Hume said he saw his mother in a vision saying Dan 12 o'clock which was the time 117 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,200 of her death. 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,720 So she shows up she's like yeah I'm dying I'm gonna die foretold just how it goes. 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,800 And kind of around this time when they move into this house apparently there's reports 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:09,200 of wrappings and knocking similar to those that occur in the Fox sister story two years 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,200 earlier. 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,960 You never hear of wrappings anymore? 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 No you don't. 124 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,160 Pretty much never. 125 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Ministers were called to the Cook's house, a Baptist, a Congregationalist, and even a 126 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Westleyan minister who all believed that Hume was possessed by the devil although Hume believed 127 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,600 it was a gift from God. 128 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,960 According to Hume the knocking did not stop and a table started to move by itself even 129 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,240 though Hume's aunt put a Bible on it and then placed her full body weight on it. 130 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,360 And the noises did not stop and were attracting the unwanted attention of Cook's neighbor 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,720 so Hume was told to leave the house. 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,720 It happens a lot during this time period. 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,800 He got kicked out because the house was possessed. 134 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 That happened with the few of them actually. 135 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,600 It happened with that one in Nova Scotia too. 136 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,680 They kicked her out because she was possessed. 137 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Man what a time. 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,720 I know to be alive. 139 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Here's this Daniel Hume character. 140 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,880 He's 18 years old and he's staying with a friend in Willamantic, Connecticut and later 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Lebanon. 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,800 I don't love Connecticut. 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,280 The place that has way too many silent letters. 144 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,040 And by that I mean I think one. 145 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Way too many. 146 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Way too many. 147 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,760 From here he decides he's going to hold his own seances. 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,200 So he has his first one in March of 1851 which was reported in a Hartford newspaper 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,600 managed by W.R. Hayden who wrote that the table moved without anyone touching it and 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 kept moving when Hayden physically tried to stop it. 151 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,480 After the newspaper report Hume became well known in New England and traveling around 152 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,000 healing the sick and communicating with the dead although he wrote that he was not prepared 153 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,920 for his sudden change in his life because of his supposed shyness. 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,800 I actually found what appears to be an affidavit of people who saw one of his seances. 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,640 So I'm going to read it for you. 156 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Please do. 157 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,440 The undersigned bear testimony to the occurrence of the following facts which we separately 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,480 witnessed at the house of Rufus Elmer in Springfield. 159 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,480 1. 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,000 The table was moved in every possible direction and with great force when we could not perceive 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,200 any cause of motion. 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,200 2. 163 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,320 It's the table was forced against each one of us so powerfully as to move us from our 164 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,000 positions together with the chair we occupied in all several feet. 165 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 3. 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Mr. Wells and Mr. Edwards took hold of the table in such a manner as to exert their 167 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,720 strength to the best advantage but found the invisible power exercised in an opposite 168 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,920 direction to be quite equal to their utmost efforts. 169 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,920 4. 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,840 In two instances at least while the hands of all the members of the circle were placed 171 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,360 on top of the table and while no visible powers was employed to raise the table or otherwise 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,440 move it from its position it was seen to rise clear of the floor and to float in the atmosphere 173 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,640 for several seconds as if sustained by some denser medium of an air. 174 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,640 5. 175 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Mr. Wells seated himself on the table which was rocked for some time with great violence 176 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,080 and at length. 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,040 The table poised itself on the two legs and remained in this position for some 30 seconds 178 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 when no other person was in contact with it. 179 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,520 6. 180 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Three persons, Mr. Wells, Mr. Edwards assumed positions on the table at the same time and 181 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,400 while thus seated the table was moved in various directions. 182 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,760 How many more points can they make on this table? 183 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,360 They're all saying the same thing. 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Yeah. 185 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Essentially. 186 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,360 7. 187 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Occasionally we were made conscious of occurrences of a powerful shock which produced a vibratory 188 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,520 motion of the floor of the apartment in which we were seated. 189 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,560 It seemed like the motion occasioned by distant thunder or the firing of ordinances far away, 190 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,120 causing the table, chairs, and other inanimate objects and all of us to tremble in such a 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,560 manner that the effects were both seen and felt. 192 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:36,560 8. 193 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:40,760 In the whole exhibition which was far more diversified than the foregoing specifications 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:47,500 would indicate, we were constrained to admit that there was an almost constant manifestation 195 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:51,640 of some intelligence which seemed at least to be independent of the circle. 196 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,640 9. 197 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,080 In conclusion we may observe that Mr. D.D. 198 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Hume frequently urged us to hold his hands and feet during these occurrences. 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,440 The room was well lighted, the lamp was frequently placed on and under the table, and every possible 200 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,200 opportunity was afforded us for the closest inspection if we admit this one emphatic declaration. 201 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,760 We know that we were not imposed upon nor deceived. 202 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:28,280 It is signed by a W.M. Bryant, B.K. Bliss, W.M. Edwards, David A. Wells. 203 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,200 So we're talking about seances then, okay. 204 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Cause I wasn't sure if you meant seances or being so impressed with something that you 205 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:40,160 and your friends need to go get a lawyer right after David's read a sign about it. 206 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:46,720 You know what never occurred to me before, I should start writing them more often. 207 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Have you ever done that? 208 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,960 No, nor have I been to a seance. 209 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,080 So you think it's only applicable for seance type purposes? 210 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 It almost feels like it's a marketing gimmick, does it not? 211 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Now that you say that, yes. 212 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 I thought it was just someone being blown away. 213 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Maybe they're a lawyer. 214 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,840 Maybe they deal with affidavits every day so they just like, that's what they're like 215 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,000 doing, or to work the next day they're like, I'm just going to do one up for myself. 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,600 I should make note here that Hume does not have a law degree so he did not write this 217 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,600 affidavit for them. 218 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,000 You're impressed by that, right? 219 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Here sign this affidavit. 220 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Yeah, but the writer probably writes a lot of affidavits in his life. 221 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:30,760 I would say, I would venture to say that he is probably a chronic affidavit writer. 222 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,200 He's putting on these seances. 223 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,960 He's impressing people so much they're going to the lawyers, but apparently Hume never 224 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,880 actually charges people to go to his seances. 225 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,320 There's no payment there. 226 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,640 I've seen it explained, it felt like he was an employee to people and then he was using 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,680 his powers incorrectly if he was seeking payment, but he also accepts gifts and donations. 228 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:52,160 I don't really see a difference. 229 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,160 He apparently did, I don't. 230 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Well, I will say because I have my Reiki training, you are supposed to, oh never mind, you can 231 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,880 take payment for Reiki. 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Oh good. 233 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:10,240 You're supposed to have an exchange of something, whether it be money or dinner or something 234 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,520 like that for Reiki. 235 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 I was thinking about it wrong. 236 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Okay. 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,840 He felt that he was on, quote, a mission to demonstrate immortality and, quote, and 238 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,880 wished to interact with his clients as one gentleman to another rather than as an employee. 239 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,520 I don't think he quite understands what the word employee means, but maybe it meant something 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,040 different in the 1850s. 241 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,040 In 1852. 242 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,640 So where does he make his money? 243 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,600 He gets gifts and donations. 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,240 That's how he lives. 245 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Fancy people really like him as he kind of probably could have guessed from how I came 246 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,240 to find this guy. 247 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Okay. 248 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,040 In 1852, Hume was a guest at the house of Rufus Elmer. 249 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,800 That's the story we just told. 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,000 We can skip that one. 251 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,200 All convinced of Hume's credibility and wrote to Springfield Republican newspaper stating 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 that the room was well lit, full inspection. 253 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:02,400 It was also reported that one of Hume's demonstrations had five men of heavy build and Chelsea, I 254 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,560 just, is going to tell you a real difference between nowadays and the 1850s. 255 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:12,480 Five men of heavy build with a combined weight of 850 pounds sat on the table, but it's 256 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,680 still moved. 257 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,680 So each of those men weighed on average 170 pounds. 258 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,680 Okay. 259 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,040 Well, that would make it more difficult to stop it. 260 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Yeah. 261 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,640 But heavy built men are 170 pounds in the 1850s. 262 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Is 1850 supposed to make a difference to me? 263 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,880 Well, I just feel like a heavy built man is far more than 170 pounds. 264 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Oh, no, that's true. 265 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Yep. 266 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,520 No, you're right. 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 So you could make that number probably with three people in a random audience now. 268 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,960 Oh, yeah, that's true. 269 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Okay. 270 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,960 Now I get what you're getting at. 271 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,960 Yeah. 272 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:43,960 Okay. 273 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,080 They are like quite obese by 1850s. 274 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,280 They're heavy gentlemen. 275 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Hume was investigated by numerous people such as Professor Robert Hare and John W. Edmonds, 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,960 a trial court judge. 277 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Maybe he was right in affidavits. 278 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,160 Who knows? 279 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,080 They were skeptical, but later said they believed Hume was not fraudulent. 280 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,760 Hume's did write a book later in life. 281 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,560 It was called Incidents in My Life. 282 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:11,160 And he claims that in August of 1852 in South Manchester, Connecticut at the house of a 283 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Ward Cheney, a successful silk manufacturer of the day, he was reportedly seen to levitate 284 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,320 twice and then rise up to the ceiling with louder wrappings and knockings than ever before. 285 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,160 More aggressive table movements and the sound of a ship at sea in the storm, although persons 286 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,560 present said that the room was badly lit so as to see the spirit lights. 287 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Hume then moved to an apartment in New York at Bryant Park on 42nd Street and his most 288 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,560 verbal critic in New York was a man by the name of William Makepeace Thackeray, the author 289 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,040 of Vanity Fair. 290 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Thackeray dismissed Hume's abilities as dire humbug and dreary and foolish superstitions. 291 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,440 I should say those are both direct quotes. 292 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Although Thackeray had been impressed when he saw a table turning. 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Hume thought that Thackeray was quote the most skeptical inquirer he had ever met and 294 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:04,600 quote and as Thackeray made his thoughts public, Hume faced public skepticism and further scrutiny. 295 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,920 In 1853 he resided at the Theological Institute as he wanted to take a course in medicine. 296 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:16,520 And Dr. Hall funded Hume's studies and offered to pay Hume $5 a day for his seances but Hume's 297 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,880 refused due to that whole opinion he has on betting paid for seances. 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,800 His idea was to fund his work with a legitimate salary by practicing medicine but he became 299 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,360 ill in 1854. 300 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,320 You know as they said earlier, he had that disposition which made him have to be given 301 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,320 to his aunt. 302 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,080 And it turns out he gets diagnosed with tuberculosis or consumption as it's also called. 303 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,600 Do you know what the doctors recommend for him? 304 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,600 Bloodletting. 305 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Not a bad guess for how the conversations have gone today. 306 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,200 But move to Europe. 307 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Like a super weird diagnosis. 308 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Yeah, why? 309 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,280 What was the reasoning? 310 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Does it say? 311 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,280 I don't know. 312 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,080 All I know is from here he sets off in March of 1855 and moves to Europe. 313 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Now up to this point I should let you know these are all the things that people say that 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,440 he's done in his seances. 315 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,840 The raps and knocking sounds, object levitation and movements including complete levitation 316 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,080 of pianos and tables. 317 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Tables tilted or moved sharply. 318 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Alteration in the weight of objects. 319 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,560 I don't understand that one but it does come up and we're going to talk about that 320 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,660 one later on. 321 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:21,680 So it can make things heavier or lighter. 322 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 The appearance of lights or luminous phenomenon. 323 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,240 The appearance of partially or fully materialized forms. 324 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,240 Touches, poles, pinches and other tactile phenomena occurring while the hands of all 325 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,720 present were visible above the table. 326 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Auditory phenomena. 327 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Odors produced at the absence of any visible object. 328 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Earthquake effects. 329 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,920 The shaking. 330 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,920 This is a weird one. 331 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Hands. 332 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,120 Supple, solid, mobile and warm of different sizes, shapes and colors. 333 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,800 While the hands were animated and solid to the touch, they would often end at or near 334 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,960 the wrist and eventually dissolve or melt. 335 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Sometimes the hands were said to be disfigured exactly as the hands of a deceased ostensible 336 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,640 communicator had been. 337 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,680 And he would play musical instruments, either totally not touching them or while handling 338 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,880 them while they were unable to actually be played. 339 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,880 Was he good? 340 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,880 I didn't think. 341 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,880 It didn't come up. 342 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,880 It was too bad. 343 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,480 He would handle hot coals, elongations in which the medium grew from several inches 344 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 to more than a foot and levitation. 345 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,960 So that's the kind of stuff that we're talking about in his seance is they sound like a good 346 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,960 time. 347 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Absolutely. 348 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,920 And I'm sad that I can't go to one, I think. 349 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,720 Well, you just wait and see what happens at the end of this. 350 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,200 Okay, I'm excited for that. 351 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Hume's when he moves there, I don't understand why it seems weird that it was included in 352 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,200 the Wikipedia article, but I'm just going to keep it here anyways, because it is his 353 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,200 full name. 354 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,920 He stretches his name out from Daniel Hume to Daniel Dungless Hume. 355 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Like, I thought it was Douglas for a long time, but no, it's Douglas. 356 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Is this the elongation that they were talking about? 357 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Yeah, it's like I elongated my name to D. 358 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,120 And you'll see D.D. Hume written a lot when you're referring to him. 359 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:02,080 And everyone's like, oh my God, he didn't like people are creating fucking like Afed 360 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Davids or like he elongated. 361 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,280 And they are really impressed by very simple legalese back in the day. 362 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,440 You better go get a lawyer to confirm our astoundingness. 363 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,640 When he gets to London, Hume found a believer in spiritualism, William Cox, who owned a 364 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,960 large hotel. 365 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,320 He gets to stay with him for free. 366 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,680 There's also another guy that lives there named Robert Owen. 367 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,960 He's an 83 year old social reformer. 368 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,000 I don't know what that meant, but it was included. 369 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,960 It was also staying at the hotel and introduced Hume to many of his friends in London society. 370 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,460 So he gets connected quick. 371 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:39,880 He's not living a bad life for someone who's not charging anything for him. 372 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,880 I know. 373 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,600 He's doing quite well for himself. 374 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,600 Very. 375 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,440 So at the time, Hume was described as a tall and thin with blue eyes and auburn hair, 376 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,560 fastidiously dressed, but seriously ill with consumption. 377 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,200 Nevertheless, he had held sittings for notable people in full daylight, moving objects that 378 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,800 were some distance away. 379 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,960 Some early guests at Hume's sittings included the scientist Sir David Brewster, who remained 380 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,640 unconvinced that he was doing anything fancy. 381 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:11,320 The novelists are Edward Bulwer-Lytton and Thomas Adolphus Trollope and the Sweden-Borgen 382 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 James John Garth Wilkinson. 383 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800 I don't know any of those names. 384 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,880 No, neither do I. 385 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,120 Not one ring a bell. 386 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:23,640 As well as Brewster, fellow scientists Michael Faraday and Thomas Huxley were prominent contemporary 387 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,720 critics of Hume's claims, and it was the poet Robert Browning, however, who proved 388 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,440 to be one of Hume's most adamant critics. 389 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,880 After tending a seance of Hume's, Browning wrote in a letter to The Times that quote, 390 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:41,160 the whole display of hands, spirit, utterances, etc. was a cheat and imposter. 391 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,800 Browning gave his unflattering impression of Hume in the poem Sludge the Medium, like 392 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,200 he specifically wrote a poem putting him in bad light. 393 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,600 And his wife, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, was convinced that the phenomena she witnesses 394 00:19:53,600 --> 00:20:04,240 were genuine and loved Hume's. 395 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,240 There was dysentery. 396 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,960 I really like the fact that he moved to America, got consumption, and then got told to go back. 397 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,280 And it will save him. 398 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680 He does live for a while after, so that's good. 399 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Yeah, I mean, you're up for it as far as I'm concerned. 400 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,440 So Hume's fame continued to grow, fueled by his ostensible feat of levitation. 401 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,200 There's a band by the name of William Crooks. 402 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,520 He claimed Hume could levitate five to seven feet above the floor and wrote, we all saw 403 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,560 him rise from the ground slowly to a height of about six inches, remain there for about 404 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,160 10 seconds and then slowly descend. 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,800 William Crooks is going to come up later because there's some fun stuff with him. 406 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,920 In the following years, Hume traveled across continental Europe and always as a guest of 407 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,160 wealthy patrons. 408 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,880 In Paris, he was summoned to the Thulieres. 409 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,680 My French is pretty terrible. 410 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,920 To perform a seance for Napoleon the Third. 411 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,120 So the shittier one. 412 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,240 But there is a behind the bastard's episode on him. 413 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,880 Is it good Napoleon? 414 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,440 The Napoleon the first one was at least fairly famous. 415 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Napoleon the Third is very different. 416 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,920 Oh, I think I only know the bad one. 417 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,920 Okay. 418 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,880 I performed for Queen Sophia of the Netherlands who wrote, I saw him four times. 419 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 I felt a hand tipping my finger. 420 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,720 I saw a heavy golden bell moving alone from one person to another. 421 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,320 I saw my handkerchief move alone and returned to me with a knot. 422 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,120 He himself is pale, sickly, rather handsome young man, but without a look or anything 423 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,680 which would either fascinate or frighten you. 424 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,680 It is wonderful. 425 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,480 I am so glad I have seen it. 426 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,960 It wasn't fancy enough though for her to go see her lawyer. 427 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,960 I was just going to say, was this written on an affidavit or are we taking her word 428 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,960 for it then? 429 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Yeah, so that's how it is. 430 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Well known liar. 431 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,960 In 1866, Mrs. Jane Lyon or Leon, I don't know, a wealthy widow. 432 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,280 I love this story. 433 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,680 She adopts him and gives him 60,000 pounds because she wants to see. 434 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,520 He's in his mid 30s at this point. 435 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Okay. 436 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,880 I'm looking for people to ask that he adopted me and adopted me. 437 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,040 And yeah, moms are just the thing that get you get lent out to. 438 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,520 If it is his mind. 439 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,440 So it's because she wants him to introduce her into high society. 440 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,880 She found that this didn't do anything for her. 441 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,680 So she changes her mind and brought a lawsuit for the return of her money from him on the 442 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,080 grounds that he had been obtained by spiritual influence. 443 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,120 And I need to find this lawsuit because she ends up winning. 444 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,120 The money was returned. 445 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,120 Wow. 446 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,120 That's incredible. 447 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:42,320 And certainly Hume's high society acquaintances thought that he behaved like a complete gentleman 448 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,880 throughout the ordeal and he did not lose a single important friend. 449 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Also, it should be noted though that generally if he lost the case and generally you don't 450 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040 immediately sue, you just ask for the money back. 451 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,240 And then after some time, you have to go to a lawsuit. 452 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,720 So he didn't just return the money. 453 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,480 I mean, maybe that's what was so gentlemanly. 454 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,920 There's no affidavit about this. 455 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,640 They're lying, obviously. 456 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,640 Yeah. 457 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,080 So the first person I ended up finding this guy through, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator 458 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,840 of Sherlock Holmes, he was a big fan of Hume's. 459 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,040 He stated that Hume's was an unusual seer in that he had four different types of mediumships, 460 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,840 direct voice, the ability to let spirits audibly speak, transpeaker, the ability to let spirits 461 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,680 speak through oneself, a clairvoyant ability to see the things that are out of view, and 462 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080 physical medium moving objects at a distance. 463 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960 So he was a big fan of all that. 464 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,200 Now of course, like the biggest thing, this guy is known as like the levitating guy. 465 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,640 So his biggest one happened in 1860. 466 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Yeah, I have a picture here of him levitating. 467 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,480 A young Lord Adair, who his name will come up later, was fascinated by Hume's and began 468 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,920 documenting the seances that he held. 469 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,520 The following year, Hume was said to have levitated out of a third story window of one 470 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,400 room and back in through the window of the adjoining room in front of three witnesses. 471 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,880 Adair, Captain Wynn, and Lord Lindsay. 472 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,560 Lord Adair stated that Hume, quote, swung out and in, and quote, of a window in a horizontal 473 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,560 position. 474 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,440 It should be noted, everybody remembers the story completely differently of these three 475 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,200 people who saw it. 476 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,120 The incident took place at number five Buckingham Gate Kensington says Adair at Ashley Place, 477 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:29,520 Westminster says Adair at Victoria Street, Westminster says Lindsay. 478 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,440 Adair was a ledge four inches wide below the window says Adair, a ledge one and a half 479 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,920 inches wide says Lindsay and no footholds at all says Lindsay at a different time. 480 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Adair at different times said the balconies were seven feet apart and that there were 481 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,000 no balconies at all. 482 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:51,080 The windows were eight feet from the street, Lindsay, 70 feet, Lindsay, 80 feet, Hume on 483 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,840 the third floor, Adair on the first floor, Adair. 484 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,560 It was dark, Adair, there was a bright moonlight, Lindsay. 485 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Hume was asleep in one room and the witnesses went into the next adair. 486 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,240 Hume left the witnesses in one room and went himself into the next adair. 487 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,520 So I don't know how great that story is. 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,400 That is like the most insane I've ever heard like eyewitness accounts. 489 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,400 Yeah. 490 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,280 It's just they've constantly changed the story over the years and like nobody, it's 491 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,680 hard to really tell what happened from it. 492 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840 Well, no, not just based on that. 493 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Yeah. 494 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Trevor H. Hall, who researched the case in detail, established that the levitation likely 495 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,440 took place at Ashley Place in Westminster, which is one of the places they said it could 496 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,040 have happened at, at a height of 35 feet and suggested rather than levitating, Hume had 497 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,600 stepped across a gap of four feet between two iron balconies. 498 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,640 So that doesn't seem unreasonable. 499 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,280 That's the width of a sheep squat shoulders right there. 500 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,280 Yeah. 501 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,280 You could step over that. 502 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,280 Yeah. 503 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Okay. 504 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,280 Now this part. 505 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,720 So he's made a name for himself. 506 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680 There's this guy named William Crooks. 507 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,360 He's a very well known scientist of his day and he wants to study to see if the paranormal 508 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,360 is real. 509 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:11,280 So he's going to conduct experiments on Hume and there's kind of two that we're going 510 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,040 to be talking about that he's done. 511 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,400 He does during this time. 512 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,200 Crooks tested Hume's apparent ability to alter an object's weight. 513 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:24,160 It consisted of a mahogany board 36 by 9.5 by one inch onto whose ends had been screwed 514 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,520 mahogany strips 1.5 inches wide, one of these feet rested on a firm table and the other 515 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 was supported by a spring balance hanging on a sturdy tripod. 516 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,560 This apparatus was rigged so that the mahogany board lay horizontally between the table and 517 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,560 the tripod. 518 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,520 As in the case of the accordion, Hume had never seen the device. 519 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,760 I'm sorry and the accordion is going to come up later. 520 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,000 I thought it was the other way around. 521 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Apparently it's not. 522 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,160 Hume sat at the table where one end of the board rested and placed his finger tips lightly 523 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,720 on that end of the board. 524 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,760 Crooks and Huggins sat on either side of the board. 525 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Almost immediately the board and spring balance began to oscillate up and down. 526 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,360 Hume then placed a nearby handbell and matchbox on one end of the board, one under each hand 527 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,400 and in order to demonstrate he said that he was not producing the downward pressure. 528 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,040 The oscillation of the spring balance became more pronounced and Huggins who was watching 529 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,360 the index saw it descend to 6.5 pounds and later to 9 pounds. 530 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:22,680 The normal weight of the board as registered by the balance had been 3.5 pounds prior to 531 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,680 the experiment. 532 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,680 I just don't know what about that you'd be like, ooh spooky like paranormal. 533 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,680 Wow. 534 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Yeah. 535 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,680 He's just added six pounds to it somehow. 536 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,760 I don't know how I would still be like, wow, that's so uninteresting. 537 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,760 Like made it idiot. 538 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Yeah. 539 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Well, and if he was alive today, he would clearly be making his name in diet fortunes. 540 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,280 True. 541 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,920 Like that's probably about it though. 542 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Yeah. 543 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,480 I don't know what he's just going to pay for it. 544 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,360 Oh yeah, influencers do that still. 545 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,360 Yeah. 546 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,120 No more, no affidavits though. 547 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,120 No affidavits. 548 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,920 Crooks was particularly impressed by Hume's accordion phenomenon. 549 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,000 So this is the other thing. 550 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 He could play music through instruments that he was just touching, not playing them, touching 551 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000 them. 552 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,680 So he's like, I'm going to see how he does this. 553 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,080 So you guys have a, you can do that with the piano. 554 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Just touch the piano. 555 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Touch it and it plays music. 556 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Oh play it. 557 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,440 But this is a hundred years before that automatic piano that we have. 558 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160 You're just going to give away your fucking secrets. 559 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,160 Yeah. 560 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,160 Yeah. 561 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,160 Wow. 562 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,880 I don't know if I can get behind that. 563 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,200 This is really, I find this super suspicious. 564 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,720 Hume's customary procedure for like playing these instruments was to hold the accordion 565 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,320 at the end away from the keys, just under a table. 566 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,720 So it had to be under a table for him to play it this way. 567 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960 With his other hand supporting him resting on top of the table. 568 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,640 His explanation for this was that the power was greatest under table. 569 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,640 They let him do this. 570 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,960 So basically they set him up. 571 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,000 They're going to explain it, but they set it up with the accordion under the table where 572 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080 he can't reach the keys to play it. 573 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Crooks ends up like sitting right beside him with a foot on his foot so he can't move his 574 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,920 foot. 575 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 And that's how he's like, he's not doing anything with his foot or his hand. 576 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,640 We can see it and he can't reach in. 577 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320 It's so nice of him though to sit there with him. 578 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Yeah. 579 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,320 With your foot on his foot. 580 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Yeah. 581 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,680 So this is a new accordion for the occasion and Hume saw it for the first time when the 582 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,920 experiment began. 583 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Crooks went to Hume's apartment and watched him change clothes and that enabled him to 584 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,800 determine that Hume hadn't concealed some device that would allow him to manipulate the accordion 585 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,800 circuitously. 586 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,800 Oh, he watched him. 587 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,880 That's nice. 588 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,200 And then Crooks then brought Hume's to his house where he had prepared a wooden cage wound 589 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,760 with insulated copper wire and netted together with string. 590 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,280 The cage fit under Crooks's table and the accordion was placed inside it. 591 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,520 There was enough space between the cage and the table for Hume to reach in and hold the 592 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,920 accordion at the end away from the keys, but there wasn't enough space for Hume to reach 593 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520 in further and touch or manipulate the keys. 594 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Furthermore, Hume couldn't operate the accordion with his feet because the cage rested on the 595 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,920 floor besides Hume had boots on and there were observers who were keeping an eye on him. 596 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,880 So Crooks describes it this way, the cage begins being drawn from under the table so 597 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,560 as to just allow the accordion to be pushed with its keys downwards. 598 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,960 It was pushed back as close as Mr. Hume's arms would permit, but without hiding his 599 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,160 hands from those next to him, very soon the accordion was seen by those on each side to 600 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,200 be waving around in a somewhat curious manner. 601 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,280 Then sound came from it, and finally several notes were played in succession. 602 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,080 While this was going on, my assistant went under the table and reported that the accordion 603 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,320 was expanding and contracting at the same time, and it was seen that the hand of Mr. 604 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Hume by which it was held was quite still. 605 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,200 His other hand resting on the table. 606 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,480 So those are the experiments that Crooks designs and uses on Hume, and he concludes that this 607 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,760 guy is totally legit and paranormal stuff's real. 608 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Chelsea, I need it to be known now. 609 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,560 There's three people he's done experiments on that he fully believes at this point, 610 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,360 legit in their paranormal powers. 611 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Hume, Florence Cook, and Kate Fox. 612 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,480 It isn't Hume himself? 613 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,840 Crooks is doing the investigations, and he's concluding this. 614 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440 He's found three mediums he fully believes are real. 615 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Okay, I thought he found three people that fully believed that what he was doing was... 616 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,600 No, he did experiments on these three individuals and concluded that they were all real. 617 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,600 Well, the Fox sisters. 618 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,600 Yes. 619 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Okay, that took me a long time to process. 620 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,320 I apologize. 621 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Yes. 622 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Yeah, so, yeah. 623 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,920 So Fox sisters legit according to this. 624 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Yeah, okay. 625 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,400 You haven't listened to our Fox sister episodes, go listen, they are not legit. 626 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,640 They even admit it. 627 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Yeah, okay. 628 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 They're not up to speed on that point of the Fox sisters. 629 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,600 So he wrote this paper in 1874 and concluded that the phenomenons produced by all three 630 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840 of these mediums were genuine. 631 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,440 That's pretty much the life I wanted to talk about and his notoriety where it comes from. 632 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Very interesting things. 633 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600 It doesn't end the same way the Fox sisters do and that they come out and say like, that 634 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,600 this is real. 635 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,000 He never comes out and says that. 636 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,040 He's never actually had like a full public issue come out where it's like, yeah, this 637 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,040 guy's a fraud. 638 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Is it? 639 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,040 It never happens. 640 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Yeah. 641 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,040 What? 642 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,040 There's more to this story. 643 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,120 It should be noted though that while the statements that Hume was never caught in a fraud has 644 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,720 been made many times, it's not that true. 645 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,240 It's simply that Hume was never publicly exposed for his frauds. 646 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,560 Privately he was caught in fraud several times and in addition, there are natural explanations 647 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,880 for a lot of things that he has says that he did. 648 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Interesting. 649 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,480 Joseph McCabe wrote regarding the alleged levitation. 650 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,160 No one professes to have seen Hume carried from window to window. 651 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800 This is that one window thing that was talked about. 652 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,360 I think it's already been fairly well debunked at that point, but Hume told the three men 653 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,840 who were present that he was going to be wafted and he thus set up a state of very nervous 654 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,840 expectations. 655 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,360 Both Lord Crawford and Lord Adair say that they were warned and then Lord Crawford says 656 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,840 that he saw the shadow on the wall of Hume entering the room horizontally and as the 657 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,240 moon by whose light he professes to have seen the shadow was at most only three days old. 658 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,320 His testimony is absolutely worthless. 659 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,480 Lord Adair claims only that he saw Hume in the dark standing upright outside our window. 660 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560 In the dark it was almost moonless December night. 661 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,560 One could not as a matter of fact say very possibly whether Hume was outside or inside 662 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,920 but in any case he acknowledges that there was a 19 inch window sill outside the window 663 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,560 and Hume could stand on it. 664 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,400 I think that was fairly obvious from the story though. 665 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Yeah. 666 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Arthur Conan Doyle even says at points that there were many cases on record of Hume levitating 667 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,440 but skeptics assert the alleged levitations occurred in darkened conditions susceptible 668 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,040 to trickery and pretty much all of his seances are done in very dark lighting so if you're 669 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960 going to be doing trickery it's a lot easier to get it done. 670 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,960 Yeah. 671 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Now those fancy magicians that are in Vegas like do levitation. 672 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,880 Yeah they do it all the time. 673 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,880 It's easy to do. 674 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760 Yeah levitation that is. 675 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Yes. 676 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:59,560 At a seance in the house of the solicitor John S. Nathan Reimer in Ealing in July of 1855 677 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,200 a sitter observed that quote a spirit hand unquote was in fact a false limb attached 678 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,720 to the end of Hume's arm. 679 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,840 Yeah what's up with those spirit hands. 680 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Yeah I don't know. 681 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Merrifield also claimed to have observed Hume uses foot in the seance room so there are 682 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:21,000 allegations nothing was ever proven and then our friend Robert Browning who hated this 683 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,280 guy attended the seance on July 23 1855 in 1895 after the death of Robert and Elizabeth 684 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,560 the journalist Frederick Greenwood alleged that Browning had told him that during seances 685 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,760 he had taken hold of a luminous object that appeared above the edge of the table which 686 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,120 turned out to be Hume's naked foot. 687 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,120 You. 688 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,120 You imagine. 689 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,120 I know. 690 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Later Browning's son Robert in a letter to the London Times December 5 1902 also referred 691 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,960 to the incident saying that Browning had caught hold of Hume's foot under the table. 692 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,520 The allegation was repeated by Harry Houdini and later writers. 693 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,360 But detailed descriptions of the seance written soon afterwards by Robert and Elizabeth make 694 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,400 no mention of any such incident and Browning's account states that although he was promised 695 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,200 that he would be allowed to hold a spirit hand the promise was never kept. 696 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,240 Those men these guys in these spirit hands. 697 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,240 Yeah. 698 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:17,640 You can't say I've ever heard of that before but there was like all types of spirit hands. 699 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,120 They're just all over the place. 700 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960 But this guy's known for levitation which is the funny thing. 701 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Spirit hands. 702 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,120 In the society of psychical research there was a letter by Dr. Barthes a physician in 703 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,840 the court of Empress Eugenie. 704 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,480 He wrote this home more thin shoes easy to take off and draw on and also cut socks that 705 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,000 left the toes free at the appropriate moments he takes off one of his shoes and with this 706 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,560 foot pulls a dress here and a dress there and rings a bell knocks one way and another 707 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,680 and things done quickly puts his shoes back on again. 708 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,040 Hume positioned himself between the Empress and Napoleon III one of the seance sitters 709 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,840 known as General Fleury also suspected that Hume was utilizing trickery and asked to leave 710 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,920 but returned unobserved to watch from another door behind Hume. 711 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,760 He saw Hume slip his foot from his shoe and touch the arm of the Empress who believed 712 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640 it to be one of her dead children. 713 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,000 The observer stepped forward and revealed the fraud and Hume was conducted out of the 714 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,960 country quote the order was to keep the incident secret end quote. 715 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,840 The allegations described by Dr. Barthes and General Fleury are second hand and have 716 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,800 caused disputes between psychical researchers and skeptics. 717 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880 They've came up before I can't remember where though. 718 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,880 Yeah I can't either. 719 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,880 I assume for that time it's probably it wouldn't be Edelure and Warren it's probably something 720 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,600 like Blavatsky or something. 721 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,400 That would make sense because that's right around the right time. 722 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,480 And then let's just talk a bit about William Crook's investigation. 723 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,400 He says that it was all done and controlled and secured in his laboratory. 724 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,320 That's method of foot control that we talked about that was super important. 725 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,320 Yeah. 726 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,800 Wasn't great because he used the exact same foot control on a Yusapia Paladino who was 727 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,880 able to get around it as she just slipped her foot out of the shoe because it was a 728 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,800 thick shoe and he didn't know what it is. 729 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800 How did it stay put? 730 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,160 I can't imagine if someone's foot is on mine no matter the thickness of shoe getting it 731 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,160 off. 732 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,080 Yeah I know but she got around it. 733 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,800 It wouldn't be unreasonable to think other people would have done it as well. 734 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440 Well yeah I guess if your crew is depending on it I just can't imagine myself. 735 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,840 And in addition Crook's motive method and conclusion with regards to Florence Cook were 736 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,640 called into question both at the time and subsequently casting doubt on his conclusion 737 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,600 with Humes and that's one of the three mediums that he confirmed in 1874 were real. 738 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,080 In a series of experiments in London at the House of Crooks in February of 1875 the medium 739 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,280 Anna Eva Fay managed to fool Crook into believing she had genuine psychic powers and Fay later 740 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520 confessed to her fraud and revealed the tricks she had used. 741 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Same with the Fox sisters. 742 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,520 And same with the Fox sisters. 743 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,520 No good track. 744 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,680 I feel like this happens again and again with these spiritualists at this time that they 745 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,320 find someone that conducts research on them and they're like oh it's totally real because 746 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,840 they just want to believe in it. 747 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,360 And this guy absolutely has the believability behind him and he ends up being like very 748 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,320 well known scientist in his day. 749 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,240 So fabulous mustache. 750 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,240 Fabulous mustache. 751 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,240 This is named Cook. 752 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,240 Crooks. 753 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,240 C-R-O-O-K-E-S. 754 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:17,240 Oh yeah. 755 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:18,240 Oh yeah. 756 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,240 Wow. 757 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,240 This is incredible. 758 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:21,240 They don't make mustaches like that anymore. 759 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:22,240 They do not. 760 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:23,240 No. 761 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,480 That is someone that takes some pride in their mustache. 762 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,480 Yeah. 763 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,560 So in 1871 Belford Stewart in an article in Nature noted that the experiments that Crooks 764 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,400 had conducted were not conducted in broad daylight before a large unbiased audience and the 765 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,960 results were inconclusive. 766 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,520 Stewart suspected the phenomena observed were subjective rather than objective occurring 767 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,440 in the imaginations of those present rather than the outward physical world. 768 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,280 In the same year JP Earwaker wrote a science review that heavily criticized Crooks experiments 769 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,000 for their poor design including they were pseudoscientific and according to Earwaker 770 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,740 for in truth they are the very opposite of scientific even to call them unscientific 771 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:02,920 is not strong enough. 772 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,760 Plumsy and futile are much nearer the truth. 773 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,880 Some people brought into question the actual weight of the wood he used in that mahogany 774 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,360 doesn't weight what he says it does which is weird and it should also be noted Crooks 775 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,600 was a huge believer in psychic powers before he started doing these experiments. 776 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,600 It just said that. 777 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,560 So he might have just fallen into his own bias. 778 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,360 He just wants to know he just wants to confirm it. 779 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,360 Yeah. 780 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,040 I mean that's obvious just given that two of them came out as for sure frauds themselves. 781 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,560 They're like yep we're frauds. 782 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,280 It's probably like probably just don't just say that just like let other people say that 783 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880 don't just don't they were like I'm a fraud. 784 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,320 Is that just totally discredits my work? 785 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,600 Perry Houdini wrote this about crooks there is not the slightest doubt in my mind that 786 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,080 this brainy man was hoodwinked and that his confidence was betrayed by the so-called mediums 787 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,960 that he tested his powers of observation were blinded and his reasoning faculties so blunted 788 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,240 by his prejudice in favor of anything psychic or a cult that he could not or would not resist 789 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,240 the influence. 790 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,800 One of the experiments is making something heavier. 791 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,840 That's just not possible. 792 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,640 Spiritualism is very spooky. 793 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,040 It wouldn't be impressed if someone made something heavier. 794 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040 I wouldn't. 795 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,920 I do want to end off too with the accordion. 796 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,320 A skeptic by the name of James Randy stated that Humes was caught cheating on a few occasions 797 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,520 but the episodes were never made public and that the accordion feat you know where he 798 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,120 made an accordion play without touching it he thinks it was a one-octave mouth organ 799 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,800 which is basically a really small harmonica that Hume concealed under his large mustache. 800 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,920 Randy writes that one octave mouth organs were found in Hume's belongings after his 801 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,960 death and according to Randy around 1960 William Lindsay Gresham told Randy that these mouth 802 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,520 organs in Hume's collection at the Society of Psychical Research. 803 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,600 Oh man, I mean that's as good as being found a fraud. 804 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,240 Yeah, I can't confirm that's true though this guy's just saying it's there so I don't 805 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,240 know for sure. 806 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:57,080 And also a really weird turn that I got near the end of when I was doing this research. 807 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,760 For some reason his name triggers a wiki for LGBTQIA. 808 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:08,760 I don't know why like he has his own LGBTQ Wikipedia page and I was really confused what 809 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,080 was going on with that. 810 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:16,280 It turns out that Lord Adair that guy who saw him levitate, he wrote a diary and apparently 811 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,520 there's it's titled the experiences in spiritualism with DD Homes. 812 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,520 He says in it that he slept in the same bed with him and many of the diary entries contain 813 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,280 erotic homosexual overtones between Adair and Hume. 814 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,280 So for them. 815 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,280 Yeah. 816 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,360 And lastly Hume retired due to ill health and tuberculosis from which he had suffered 817 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,560 for much of his life. 818 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,840 He dies on June 21st 1886 at the age of 53 and was buried in the Russian cemetery of 819 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,080 Saint Germain-en-Laye in Paris. 820 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,580 So that's the story. 821 00:41:46,580 --> 00:41:48,920 Actually I wasn't disappointed by this guy. 822 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,160 It's an interesting one. 823 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,040 Yeah, I was a little disappointed that we didn't find out in the end that he was an 824 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,040 asshole. 825 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,760 He was Scottish so I didn't think I had to state it. 826 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,800 Also, anybody who forces people that enjoyed their show to sign affidavits, they're assholes. 827 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,800 They are. 828 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,360 Or lawyers and he's not a lawyer. 829 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,360 Maybe. 830 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,360 No, he wasn't both. 831 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,360 No, he was just an asshole. 832 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,920 He was only one of those at a time. 833 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,760 Yeah, that was good and I never even, I think he did come up before though. 834 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,400 Yeah, he's right around this time like just after the Fox sisters but before Houdini shows 835 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,760 up on the scene to like counteract them all. 836 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,480 This was the time that that was what you did. 837 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,280 It was like the popular influencer type thing to do, I think. 838 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,080 Yeah, it was the movie theater. 839 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,680 It was the mall of its time. 840 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,280 Yeah, the movie theater, the arcade. 841 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,960 It was the YouTube of its era. 842 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,640 But yeah, that's Daniel Dungless Humes. 843 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,040 Chelsea, anything you want to know more? 844 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,040 I don't think so. 845 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,040 I think that was it. 846 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,040 I quite enjoyed that. 847 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,560 I was like a good spiritualist. 848 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,360 This one probably he was alright. 849 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,360 He was okay. 850 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160 Really into hands and feet and floating. 851 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,760 As we all are. 852 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,760 At least he didn't have a here list tail. 853 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,920 Yeah, and with that, I have been Taylor, here with Chelsea. 854 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,200 We are Journey to the Fringe. 855 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,360 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 856 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,360 Bye. 857 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,920 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 858 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,960 If you have liked what you have listened to, please 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