From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.
Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, future winner of multiple podzies.
Once we can wrestle that name away from that damned teacher assistance app that currently
owns it, because we all rightfully know that should be the name of a podcast award something.
It's the podzies.
Yeah, yes, each of us all knows it.
Yeah.
Why was it a battle to get that name?
I bet.
I, I, we haven't started for truzees yet, so I'm looking forward to some of it, not,
not all of it.
Anyhow, we are your podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea here today to bring around the end
of our tale of our alien friend.
Is that a good way to put it?
Yeah, I think that suits him well.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Our well-traveled friend.
Bullshitter friend.
Yeah.
If we wanted to really not put any sugarcoat on it.
This guy who clearly just lies a lot.
Anyhow, Chelsea, tell us all the truth this man knows.
I'm going to pick right back up in this episode in a random spot from the previous beam episode.
If you will recall that in 1974, Meyer placed an ad in the German magazine, Esoterra seeking
quote anyone who might wish to form a group for discussing and studying metaphysical or
paranormal subjects and quote and people responded to this ad.
I might respond to an ad like that, but who looks at the personal sections of Esoterra
magazine anymore?
They respond to the ad and a study group was born and it was one of these meetings where
Meyer first made the astonishing claim that he was in direct contact with extraterrestrials.
Now one important piece of information that you're missing from the last two episodes.
I really needed a big buildup to get to this point is that from this Billy goes on to find
a nonprofit tax paying organization based on his alleged contacts with the Pledgeirian
and Sam Jassy called the Frey Intersteg Mindshaft Fjörgransund Geistweizenschaften
and Ufoli Gistud-student Dien, which translates to-
Okay, that's impeccable Swiss by the way.
That is how it sounds.
I know, I've been practicing that all my life.
And that stands for Free Community of Interests for the Border and Spiritual Sciences of Ufological
Studies.
I got to assume that this is a hall in Jungfrau, right?
Jungfrau Park?
You would think, but it's separate.
And I love Switzerland for some reason, even for places like that.
Well, it's because it's neutral.
It's neutral and that's where you hide your money.
It has to be.
And is where the aliens go.
Yeah.
Of course.
You hide your money, you go there for being an alien.
And in the late 1970s, he establishes his Sam Jassy Silver Star Center there in Switzerland.
And I don't think it's actually far from-
Oh God, I can't remember.
Jungfrau?
Yes, it's not far from there.
Because this is just- Interesting.
...despite the desert.
Huh.
And I don't think Jungfrau was very far away from the desert.
So you can do like the UFO tour of Switzerland like in a day.
You could.
But all of them are in really small, weird towns though.
It's like they're the only attraction around other than the beautiful Swiss scenery that
I digress.
So the organization's headquarters are in Switzerland, like I just said.
And Meyer currently resides in the Sam Jassy Silver Star Center.
So in short, yes, people do believe the bullshit of this guy.
Because if you will remember, Meyer claims to be the 7th reincarnation after six prophets
common to Judaism, Christianity and Islam, which is Enoch, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah,
Emmanuel- No, Jumanuel, sorry.
I don't know why I put Emmanuel.
Jumanuel, which is Jesus and Muhammad.
And you know what?
I see no reason to not believe him after all of this.
Why would he lie?
Those guys-
Actually, he probably actually has the same credentials as everybody before him who was
a prophet.
You know what?
He probably does.
You're not wrong.
You just kind of, the only way to really do it is to claim it.
Yeah, exactly.
You've got to back yourself and have the confidence in yourself to be able to sell yourself as
a prophet in the first place.
Am I right?
I'm right.
Yeah.
So the FIGU has set up, it's FIGU because who wants to say that most full every time.
They have set ups in many, many countries, including Canada, Australia, France, Germany,
Switzerland, Mexico, Japan, Sweden, Russia, Italy, Austria, Czech Republic, France.
I think I said France twice.
They're there twice.
Yes.
Maybe it's two countries.
We don't know for sure.
And I'm going to read you the about us section of the US FIGU Society.
And you can assume that everything that I read just in general off their website also
has German text underneath it that it's translated from.
This is the website talking now.
The fulfillment of the FIGU is the worldwide dissemination of the truth together with in
quote Billy Edward Albert Meyer in brackets beam and with the assistance of the Pleiadian
slash Plejiren and other life forms of nonterrestrial origin, which of the truth, however, are
knowledgeable and already since time immemorial, immemorial.
I don't know that I've ever used that word before led their lives according to the universal
truth and according to the peaceful criteria and the upcoming events.
This guy, he really has a unique way of talking as with the aliens that he's also.
Is it a unique way or is it just German?
It might be the way Germans talk.
I'm not going to lie.
I don't know.
I've never tried to learn German, so it very well might be.
So it is financed through voluntary contributions of members.
The free community of interest is an internationally active, nonreligious and nonpolitical community
of like-minded human beings who are looking for the truth and seek to align their thoughts,
feelings and actions to natural, creational guidelines.
The FIGU is organized as a yeah, they seek to live within natural guidelines, but the
alien part kind of throws me off.
Yeah.
Okay, I just wanted to make sure those seem like two different things.
I guess they technically don't have to be, but generally I'm going to see them as two
different things.
We're going to see some things in this episode.
Which is very unique for a podcast that does not do a live video show.
The FIGU is organized as a non-profit society in accordance with the Swiss Civil Court,
in brackets, civil law book, article 60 at sec.
Through donations of outside sponsors as well as through the sales of books, writings
and photos, etc. and the fight for truth is a fight against lies, untruths and irrational
teaching and must be guided by the means of information and instruction.
The FIGU informs about the truth in every concern and they let each human being have
the right to his or her own opinion.
The FIGU operates in no kind and wise and in no direction to prophylatize and therefore
not in the sense of obtaining followers and believers.
Something I have found super strange in looking into the FIGU, I had such a hard time finding
anything outside of the FIGU for information on it.
I couldn't find.
Yeah, that's fair.
We know that the Swiss really like to keep their secrets.
Yeah.
That's why they guard the Pope.
I don't know if it's because they're based in Switzerland.
I don't know if it's...
Yeah, it's a very nice coincidence that they're in such a good evil corporation location.
It has to be.
If nothing else.
I don't know if even if they were located somewhere else in Europe, if they just wouldn't
be written about that much.
I mean, you can find some people commenting on Billy Meyer, of course, just because his
stuff is so out there and obviously faked.
Very obviously faked.
This guy is just off his rocker, like living in some sort of fantasy realm, honestly.
Just given the fact that he's just building UFOs that look obviously fake.
I look at the photos and I still can't believe people are buying this shit and he has a whole
religion.
That has to be why there's nothing out there.
It's just because it's not in the United States.
It's not that hard to disprove.
Maybe that could be it too.
I don't know.
Maybe the Swiss just don't know about like, guide wires.
Like just something that never made its way to Switzerland.
Maybe not.
I just I don't get it.
There's like maybe stage plays aren't big where people are like flying around.
I don't know.
Maybe everyone in Switzerland is doing shit like this and he's just the one that made
it big.
You know what?
They all have their horrible corporations stealing from the rest of the world.
So they don't want to.
They don't want to out each other.
Maybe that's part of their rules.
I don't know.
I can't tell you why.
The only information I could find on this place was from their own website, except I
found this one thing I'm going to read to you now.
I'm going to recourse or what I'm about to read with.
It's the only thing I could find outside of the FIGU website.
So I'll it as you will, I guess.
I'm not going to tell you one way to look at it or the other.
This comes from a website called Cult Education and the post is titled is on a forum on that
website and it's called I survived the Billy Meyer experience hosted by LW, Louisa, date
June 2nd, 2019, 1.34 p.m.
And LW, Louisa says worth noting FIGU is a UFO cult in Switzerland, often discussed informally
or not at all in the UFO community.
Most of them treat as the estranged cousin nobody wants to talk about.
In life, I'm a developer in artificial intelligence.
I write science fiction and fantasy.
So one might wonder how would you get caught up in the FIGU stuff?
Well, it was a gradual thing.
Although my partner who had issues of her own noted it was my approach that may have
helped me leave even with some PTSD.
Number one, I never fully attached myself to the group.
Number two, generally a lot of their beliefs I found unpalatable in brackets so it was
easier to leave being a member that was on the periphery.
And number three, I had dodged a bullet with other cults before.
Okay, that says a lot about this guy.
Yeah.
I'm just I'm sorry.
I don't know the odds of joining more than one cult.
I was just going to ask you how many cults have you dodged just narrowly dodged getting
involved with?
I think a solid zero.
I think I'm somewhere around there just because I can't know for sure some of the people I
am supplying to talk to what they're actually like had about them.
Unless you count MLMs, then it's surprisingly a much higher number.
Yeah.
recruitment is high.
Yeah.
I might count MLMs.
Yeah.
I'm actually curious if this person's number has gone up since they wrote this article.
Okay, so surviving FIGU has made me view all other groups with suspicion.
So anyone else survived FIGU slash Billy Meyer, I'm happy to give whatever support I can.
It's still kind of fear retaliation, but it's largely melted away.
What I'm doing now, currently learning about and researching anarchism and anarchism mode
of thought, but I'm absolutely determined to study this stuff alone without help.
Somebody comments on this with some questions and he is responding to these questions now.
This UNA, I guess June 8th, 359 a.m.
Number one, how do you think FIGU fits the definition of cult or how would you define
cult to include FIGU?
And they answer, not so much a core group member as part of an American division that
was beginning to splinter off from it.
Okay.
Number two, what do you mean would join?
Did you become a passive member?
Did you go there at some point?
They answer more accurate to say passive member Ken wanted me and kept trying to persuade
me to become an active member.
I think he thinks we have more information than we do.
I'm just going to keep reading.
Number three, I'm assuming you studied the information for a long time before joining.
What prompted you to become a passive member, assuming that's what you did and prompted
you to stop being one?
The answer, before that point, I had read Jim Mars's books on UFOs and assumed the stories
about Billy Meyer were greatly exaggerated, but there is a lot of granularity.
I don't even think Meyer intended.
Number four, what do you mean was surviving FIGU?
That's especially intriguing.
Do you face danger from reading the materials online for being a passive member from visiting
FIGU physically?
They say there was never any explicit danger, but rather the feeling of uncertainty and
being stalked at one point silenced me for a while, although I never came back to the
group.
Number five, who do you fear retaliation from?
Do you mean retaliation from simply terminating your passive membership or for something you
did while you visited there?
They say mainly from people I was most immediately involved with online.
For example, some of the people I knew actually followed me on some language learning sites.
Intriguing.
One other disturbing factoid, they were really obsessed with learning German.
There was also a very strong anti-LGBT currently in it.
And at one point they had preached that the Bleggerian apparently that's what the ETs
prefer to be called, not Pleiadians, and that they had bred out LGBT people from their society.
They bred them out?
The way I'm reading this is that they...
Eugenic.
Yeah.
Huh.
Didn't know you could breed out gays.
No.
Or trans or anybody that's non-conforming.
No, you couldn't do that, could you?
Yeah.
That's something that is a reoccurring theme of the FIGU along with anti-Semitism.
We'll get into it as they talk about.
There were other reasons I stopped being a passive member, but such implied non-support
for my own variation of LGBT status was a major factor.
The fear of retaliation was so strong that when I actually go around to writing my own
memoir of that particular group, I had changed its name.
I'm not entirely sure if the new group I'm in is actually a cult or if they use the
word cult in tongue-in-cheek manner.
What?
So they joined another one.
Okay.
So that's maybe number three.
Let me just reiterate that I only just read that because it was literally the only other
outside information I could find other than...
That is very interesting.
That coming from the FIGU website.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
So just talking about like this community itself, the fringe community, whether we're
talking UFOs, Bigfoot, they generally tend to be geographically isolated.
Do they not?
Like you don't see a lot of interconnectedness throughout it.
So I wonder if that's part of the reason why this doesn't come up or there's not a lot
of written about it because it would all be negative if you actually push on it.
Yeah.
I'm really confused because again, and I know there's been a few things that we've
covered where it's hard to find information.
It's not often because in this community, we're a part of, people want to talk about
it.
People put information out on it.
So it's really strange that you can't find anybody comment.
Yeah.
Well, not even that.
Like we see it so many times too where it's basically just a copy and paste of the positive
story that's out there and you can't even find that.
A little bit differently.
Yeah.
But you can't even find that, which is just bizarre.
I can't.
This was the only thing.
And trust me, you know I went to Reddit.
I had a few people commenting like, help, my grandma's going to FIGU.
Is this bad?
And then just, I can find more on Billy Meyer.
And the other thing about Billy Meyer, which I should have said in the last episode is
there's stuff out there because obviously he's just making this shit up.
Like he's living in some, like he might legitimately have some sort of mental.
Mental health issues.
Yeah.
Because he's legitimately, and we're going to read some stuff from the website.
Like all of this stuff is just him commenting something and then putting like an alien commenting
on it.
It's some really, if you look at it from a point of this guy just sitting at a typewriter
making stuff up, it's pretty disturbing stuff.
And it's weird how often we have that come up as a storyline.
Yeah.
I find this guy a little bit more disturbing though, just because.
Yeah, the cults.
Yeah.
But there's no one saying otherwise to it, except what we looked at in the last episode.
There's a few people like being like, this is obviously like made up, but you don't see
it as I would when I'm looking at like, say, David Bullcock or someone like that of people
speaking out and like talking about him.
It's really strange.
Even a lot of Billy Meyer stuff comes from this society when you see what they put out.
And it's really weird with this society, the way they have different chapters for every
country pretty much in the fact that I've heard this person on Costa Costa, him, he
has a like North American ambassador for himself.
So he has, what's the name of him?
What's his name?
And I heard him on Coast.
Billy Meyer doesn't speak for himself because I don't know that he speaks English, but he
has this spokesperson that has a lot of books out in the US that speaks for him is intertwined
into the UFO community.
And Billy Meyer, if I just do coast to coast, I am Michael Horn, Michael Horn on coast
to coast.
And it's great that George Norrie is giving this guy a podium to speak from.
I mean, I can't call coast to coast a I'm forgiving him about the speaker because that's
really what they're all about.
And then the listeners do with that what they must.
But this guy legitimately just speaks for Billy Meyer.
Oh, and he has super funny and he seems to have his own website called they fly.com.
Fly.com.
Yeah.
And he talks about Billy Meyer on it.
And of course, when he talks about Billy Meyer, he's saying everything I said in my previous
episodes like that this stuff is real like he's the prophet.
And he has a quote from George Norrie at the bottom of his page that says Michael Horn
is the world's leading authority on UFOs and quotes George Norrie talk ratio host, which
I guess technically is probably a part of a larger.
Oh, it definitely is.
It definitely was the way that they put that.
But I really like that would even put coast to coast host talk radio.
Oh, no, Michael has been featured in two issues of the International Martial Arts Magazine
inside Kung Fu demonstrating advanced strength and flexibility.
Chee Gong exercises and has articles published in Nexus Mystic Pop and UFO magazines.
So he might be in Falun Gong, too.
I was just going to say he's in the family.
I was hoping you weren't going to say publish in the E-book.
Can you imagine?
Journey to the French is come full circle so many times.
It couldn't even handle that.
Okay, so the F.I.
I hope you haven't gone to the F.I.D.U.
website yet because I found a video of him showing his Tibetan bow board core strengthening
exercise.
What is that even?
I don't know.
Do you want to watch it quick?
It's two minutes.
Okay.
It's a podcast.
I'm going to watch a video.
I'm going to show you an unusual and interesting exercise based on what's known as the Tibetan
prostration exercise.
This is called the Tibetan bow board.
Two pieces of wood highly polished and smoothed and extend out at a slight incline.
In order to perform this movement, in order to perform this exercise, what I'm going to
do is put on these woolen gloves.
Bend down onto the board.
Extend my body above the board as far as I can reach.
So you're doing playing.
The interesting part of this exercise is to come up off the board without using your
hands to push you, without bending back on your knees sitting on the board.
So to do that, in effect, to look like a marionette being pulled up from the center, I have to
use my core, the center of my body, with a connection through the...
He's doing core workout.
I'm going to see something a little bit unusual.
And to show you that I'm not pushing back, I'll do one of these exercises, turning my
hands over.
I'll actually even do one, just balanced in one leg.
And so you'll see that all of this movement, all of the strengthening is happening right
through the...
Why?
You're going to notice that your feet do not...
I am noticing that.
They clearly are pressed against the board.
Do you notice that as well?
I'm noticing they're pressed right against the board.
When you lie on the board, you're not praying to anybody except yourself.
You can get yourself back up off it, like that.
Okay, this has to be one of the weirdest things I've seen.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
I've done this exercise in the gym before.
You usually...
Not with the board.
No, you have to.
You guys know in the gym where they have that corner with the board and the gloves.
Tibetan monks just kind of sitting around.
It's true.
There's a lot of monks there.
No, you just do it on the ground and you either can use a wheel or you can use just basically
frictionless pads to put under your hands.
It's not a Tibetan thing in itself.
He's just made a very mundane gym exercise into a Tibetan spiritual exercise with a piece
of what?
Okay, sorry for that sidetrack.
No, there's like a lot of weird stuff on his website.
He also talks a lot about Billy Meyer on it.
So what I'm going to do, where I'm going to take this next, I have read you on the F5GU
website, what they're about and everything.
So I'm going to get you to go to F5GU's website.
ca.figu.org.
Oh, they're Canadian version.
And you can go to the other one too if you want to.
Oh yeah.
Oh, you know what?
This is just slightly past.
Exactly what you're waiting for, right?
It's slightly past peak 90s website.
This is like early 2000s.
If you were expecting anything and I said, what are you expecting?
It's exactly what you're expecting.
Block attacks, yellow titles.
Oh yeah, bright.
Yeah.
I was hoping for more flash pictures and icons.
But yeah, this is the website we've seen in every website we've ever done.
Every episode.
And okay.
So, what if we're here?
Oh, coronavirus.
Oh.
Yeah.
So that's one of the major things that is focused on on this website.
You're going to notice a few topics really pop out at you.
Now, what I'm going to ask you to do is just take a look around.
I'm going to read you a few more things.
Yeah.
And if you see anything pop out to you, I'm going to come back to you.
And I would love for you to read that to us because I only get so much from the FIGU
website to impart wisdom with you.
So I thought we'd just poke around the website and kind of read some stuff off to it for
the rest of the day.
And I just want to say this is really just like the headings that they have here for
things you can click on.
It's really in that like conspiratuality grouping where they're talking about like creation
and energy teachings and then right next to this overpopulation, which is like one incredibly
anti-semitic.
I already guarantee it.
And then the coronavirus right next to it and then help.
You just immediately picked up on everything I was just going to tell you about this website.
So there's a couple themes, which is COVID-19 and overpopulation, lots of anti-LGBTQ, lots
of anti-Semitism you're going to find on there.
And yeah, COVID-19 and overpopulation are the major ones.
So I'm going to let Taylor take a look around and pick something that he finds really fascinating.
One thing you're going to find Taylor is if you open any of the articles.
It takes you to a Word document that is split between the German and then the English.
Yep.
German and English.
And the other thing that you're going to notice is there are questions and then you're
going to see that it's a Pledgeirin answering the question.
Oh, okay.
So Billy talks and okay, then there's Pataw.
Okay.
I clicked on the article titled, I clicked on the article titled Vesectomies.
So I'll like, is anything good in there?
Okay.
I'm going to read this.
I just picked out one of the major themes on the website.
So I'm going to read to you about overpopulation right now.
I'm going to read to you a couple other things.
And then like I said, Taylor, if there's anything that speaks to you, Pataw has just used the
term man sperm ducts.
So we might have to come back to this.
Disgusting.
Okay.
Open another tab because I know you use tabs like I do.
Okay.
Overpopulation.
So this is the overpopulation crusade, an extensive and threatening topic nobody dares
to address.
It is a fact that the reasons vary greatly from falling prey to alcoholism, drug addiction,
prescription drug abuse, tobacco addiction, solvent sniffing, sadism and masochism to
the stectarianism of religious, non-denominational, special interest group, philosophical, esoteric,
parapsychological, spiritualistic nature or sectarian ideologies of major religions.
The reasons may vary also from war, murder and crime, hatred of strangers, racial hatred,
hatred towards the asylum seekers to hatred of one's fellow man.
It is erroneous therefore to assume that only a single reason need apply to all the excesses
mentioned.
Truthfully, the reasons causing extremists as well as sectarian ideologies and additions
of all types can be subdivided into a thousand variations, many of which are listed below.
Number 1 This is all to do if you're confused because it's being translated from German.
These are all the reasons why overpopulation is affecting people.
Number 1 An inability to live.
Number 2 Vice.
Number 3 Lack of self-control.
Number 4 Impairment of the psyche.
Number 5 Sectarian propaganda.
Number 6 Propaganda by special interest groups.
Number 7 Political propaganda.
Number 8 Segregation from others.
Number 9 Euphoria.
Number 10 Unemployment.
Number 11 Fearfulness in brackets phobias.
Number 12 Disease 13 Subsistence problems.
14 Contact problems.
15 Problems with one's fellow man.
16 Communication problems.
17 Frustration.
I feel like the whole first paragraph was all of these things.
Now they're just numbered.
18 Lack of feelings.
19 Schizophrenia.
20 Maniacal beliefs.
21 Deception.
22 Compulsion.
23 Terrorism.
I'm gonna stop numbering them.
It's taking too much mouth time.
23 Despotism.
I don't even know that word.
24 Misleading education.
23 Overpopulation leads to autism.
24 Despotism.
Yeah.
25 I say autism?
26 Yeah.
No I didn't.
27 Oh.
28 Oh.
Okay.
Apparently I misread that.
29 No I didn't.
30 Deception.
31 Compulsion.
32 Terrorism.
33 Despotism.
34 Misleading education.
35 Failure to identify truth.
36 Self-Irresponsibility.
35 Search for something superior.
37 So these things didn't exist until overpopulation happened or is it lead to an increase in it?
This is the result of overpopulation.
But so we've been overpopulated for thousands of years then because like these have been
things that we've dealt with since we developed society.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Very overpopulated.
It's causing a lot of problems.
There should be like 30 people.
And they're listed all right here.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
I don't know how many people actually, maybe we can find an answer.
How many are in FIGU because I feel like that's the number.
That's probably the number.
You're right.
Search for truth.
Social grievances.
Hatred of any type.
Porosity.
Recklessness.
Vendictiveness.
Bloodthirstiness.
Homicidal mania.
Family problems.
Cold feelings.
Excessive emotions.
Harding.
Why?
Exception.
Eglomania.
Cold feelings.
Huh.
Okay.
I think I have a good reaction to that.
Maybe.
What else?
Maglomania.
Arrogance.
Conceit.
Adulation.
Government.
Confusion.
Political confusion.
War.
Revolution.
Any type of confusion.
Altercations.
Feuds.
Grief.
Affliction of harm.
Lack of knowledge.
Arbitrariness.
General mismanagement.
Subjugation of any type.
Identity crisis.
Inconsistency.
Weak mindedness.
Lack of initiative.
Thoughtlessness.
Breach of trust.
Adultery.
Friendship.
Promises.
False promises.
Melancholy.
Depression.
Dejectedness.
Loneliness.
Craving for the unusual.
Debravery.
Eglomania.
Frigidosis.
No-Widdle attitude.
False criticism.
Degeneration.
Injustice.
False humanitarianism.
Feeble mindedness.
Torment of any type.
Torture.
Abuse.
Rape.
Exploitation.
Reasons of state.
Incompetence.
Indifference.
Allowing oneself to be persuaded.
If I ever have a hard day at work I can just be like it's just overpopulation.
Yeah.
Not just these cold feelings.
It just won't go.
Exploitation.
Reasons of state.
Incompetence.
Indifference.
I read these.
Allowing oneself to be persuaded.
Partisanship.
Lack of judgement.
Envy of resentment.
Miseriliness.
I've never heard that.
What is that?
Oh.
Like a miser.
It's an appreciation of overpopulation.
I've heard the term miser and miserliness but a person who was reluctant to-
Oh.
Yeah.
Scrooge is a miser.
So like penny-pinning.
Right.
Great.
Scrooge is a miser.
Oh no.
That's definitely an anti-semitic trope.
Intemperance.
Jealousy.
Behavioral problems.
To be a slacker or shirk-
Huh.
I guess-
A shirker?
Like a shirker of duties?
Shirker.
Shirker duties?
I don't know.
Just like shirker.
So I guess when there wasn't overpopulation, so I guess you're either at population or
underpopulation, there was no time for slacking because like there's only so many people to
do the shit that needs to get done.
Oh yeah.
There's nobody to do anything.
You gotta do it all yourself.
Then we got less for war and finally I read that list beautifully at 106 we have the last
point at hunger for power.
There are many, many, many, many more articles on overpopulation on the FIGU website like
Taylor immediately picked up on it as one of the major points of the FIGU.
There's just a couple more things I would like to touch on on his website.
There is number one.
One of my favorites I came across which is titled, Typing with Speed of Light, the typing
demonstration.
And this is the point to I guess Billy Meyers' prophetism.
I don't know.
It had linked up a video clip which I would have loved to have shared with everybody but
it's no longer a working link unfortunately.
And so there was a video clip.
Says this video clip is an excerpt from the FIGU DVD.
The members of the core group introduced themselves.
It shows the incredible work rate that Billy Edward Albert Meyer in his daily paperwork
for various journals and books of the FIGU in the day lays down.
Karen Wallin, core group member of the FIGU, amazing and fantastic.
I've never seen anything like this and it's never been observed such as a human as fast
can write on a keyboard.
Of course it's German right underneath here.
I found an article titled just German which explains a lot of the reason that they always
have the German there.
And apparently they don't even consider English a language.
I'm just going to give you a short quote from this.
In many cases, a confirmed original meaning is not given in the translations because these
necessary and accurate expressions, terms and words do not exist in language concerned.
Very often not even synonyms exist which could be used for the absolute same meaning of words
and must be exchanged or placed in a text without changing the statement and its meanings.
Countless terms and words which are in the German language do not exist in any other
earth language.
And furthermore, the true meaning and value of many words and terminologies are not correctly
recognized and consequently are completely misinterpreted.
This happens on the one hand because the etymology of terms and words is completely unknown and
because a wrong origin is assumed.
This even occurs with linguists of the German language themselves which leads to fundamentally
wrong statements and explanations of terms and words.
After all the consideration, clarifications, and analyses, we have come to the unanimous
decision that in future you should no longer carry out any translations from your side
of the mother-center SSSC, not even into English, as this is not even a language in and of itself,
but only a halfway-reasonably acceptable auxiliary language which has been spread throughout
the world by unfair methods from the USA with the help of the British, English, and other
languages, the underlying purpose of which being to make all folks on the world English
speakers with this poor means of communication.
I love that.
That would explain actually a lot about the...
I'm gonna be honest, most of this website is a very poor translation into English.
I mean, that's true of any other language for anybody that's ever learned or tried to
learn another language.
They have your new peculiarities, yeah.
Yeah, there's gonna be words that aren't gonna translate into other languages and it's the
same with English.
Yeah.
That's like most of English actually.
Yeah.
Like 90% of English doesn't translate for how I get it.
I mean, we can appreciate to an extent of what Billy's saying, looking at other languages.
We get it.
Oh, yeah.
Apparently back to the article that we went to another article back to another article,
which might be how the rest of the episode goes.
Billy types, this is why he can put out such a massive amount of documents.
Yeah, it's not because he has a cult to doing it with him as well.
It's because he literally types at the speed of light.
And I would like to say that in the screenshot, I can see him typing with one finger on each
hand.
I can't even see him typing with one hand.
That would be great.
Oh, hold on.
He only has one arm.
Right.
So one finger.
I'm not about that.
So he literally, I don't believe, I'm sorry, I just don't get behind this.
But I mean, I could get behind it more than I could some of these UFO photos.
I'm gonna be honest.
The next thing I'm gonna jump to under the, and honestly, the website is so confusing.
Taylor, I don't know if you've noticed that.
I've really been sticking to just a few pages and really soaking in those pages.
So I have not noticed that.
It really, but they do have an art gallery.
I should.
Oh, they have peaceful music.
That's nice.
They have comics.
Oh, my God.
Art kind of hidden within the website.
Correction.
They have one comic.
So another thing that they have on there is if you go under, I don't even know what you
go under.
There's so many different expandable menus that I think you miss so much.
I ended up in like a Wikipedia page for them.
It's such a confusing website.
You can go under one heading.
I think it's Ufology.
And if you go under like Beam Ships or the Pledgeirian, under the Pledgeirian, you'll
see he literally just talks about the Pledgeirian like one is nutrition, domestic animals, plants,
portraits of the contact person, the Pledgeirian government, then there's just one for Sam
Jassy, language, residential buildings.
Then there's contact reports and then there's Roswell.
Honestly, there's nothing interesting on Roswell.
But this is all very long PDF documents about like honestly, I opened up residential buildings
and I didn't even find it interesting enough to share it.
It's literally just this guy making shit.
Also, I'm going to be completely honest.
On their What's New tab, they have a current world population estimation and it's 9.5 billion
people, which I think is like 1.2 billion people over the actual population and the
number just keeps going up.
So it's not actually counting.
Okay, but the next one, I'm getting distracted from reading the different subcategories.
My next favorite one, this one really caught my eye and it's called Telephone Terror.
And then it says, please note something in German.
I can't read that.
So what is Telephone Terror?
Let's just read the article.
It's been 1990s, the FIGU in Vienna and the USA and Canada, as well as in Germany and
Switzerland have been harassed by continuous telephone terror.
Thereby, they quite particularly, a certain Pete Rezim, Austria for about 15 years has
often excelled up to 15 and 20 daily calls in order to finally prevent this terror.
FIGU has been compelled to prevent such calls through drastic measures.
Oh my God, they killed somebody.
This requires that calls without visible call number, respectively, telephone number on
which display to our telephone set no longer will be connected through from which the following
results.
Number one, telephone calls that are made with suppressed call telephone number will
no longer be connected through the telephone office.
Number two, telephone calls that are made with an unlisted number there for a call number
in the display will not be indicated, will probably be connected through.
However, only sounds the bell indication, but without the call being truly taken.
Number three, telephone calls that are made as externally unknown, therefore the call
number in the display has not been indicated will probably be connected through.
However, only sounds the bell indication without the call being truly taken.
Number four, telephone calls that are made by well-known telephone terrorists will be
automatically blocked, whereby probably the bell signal sounds but without the call being
truly taken.
And I gotta say, this is my rules for taking telephone calls as well.
I've never called it telephone terror up until this point though, and I gotta say, the amount
of spam calls I get, I would actually consider it telephone terror, and I could have written
this myself.
So the next sentence is actual interested parties with regard to the FIGU mission as
well as interested parties with questions as well as for books, writing subscriptions,
and materials are requested to contact us by telephone only when they make their telephone
call with a visible call number that will be shown on the displays of our telephone
sets.
Possibly you possess an analog telephone set, which its call number is not conveyed
if follows that you otherwise use a digital telephone set, which its call number is conveyed
to our telephone sets.
So that's the end of telephone terror, but I couldn't help but read that to you because
it sounds like the everyday telephone terror of my life.
So I'm gonna ask Taylor what he found.
Oh man, so many things.
First off, I found the tab for membership, and it does explain there's three levels
of membership.
There's passive, grand, and core grouped membership.
I don't want to get too much into those, just because I read core group and it says the core
group of 49 guides, which means that it's a whole rabbit hole in itself just to get to
what that means.
So let's not worry too much about that.
There was somebody who just died within the cult.
He was on the current events basically.
So I'm sad about that.
They say about him.
Not much.
If you go click on what's new, it says obituary.
They have an obituary for Jimmy Chen, who was born February 26, 85, died February 6,
2024.
Oh, so they updated it this year.
Oh, Chelsea, there are, if you go in there, there's so many things from July 14, 2024.
The universe next door, the Plojera's mission for discovery, part one, a YouTube presentation
by Catherine Mossman.
Holy shit.
Honestly.
I know, it's kind of looking at it.
You're like, no, this can't have been updated in 20 years, but it was updated in the next
day of recording.
Like today, okay.
Okay.
So I had to click on the vasectomy article.
What you should know is they ask him, basically they're saying, is there any like good or
negative effects of getting a vasectomy?
And Pataw says, I'm just going to say it directly.
I wanted to put forth an example of how exactly all of this are wrote out.
So can you like read the question?
Yeah.
So it's Billy is talking.
And for some reason it's written in a Word document, but with an Excel table basically,
and it doesn't flip itself up nicely at all.
So Billy says, but I have another question.
So this is just from the middle of something.
And this is his own article.
This is literally the start of the page.
But I have another question from a man who wants to know whether or not a male ligature,
vasectomy can have harmful consequences.
Since I have no knowledge about this, I would like to ask you whether disadvantages arise
or not.
Pataw.
And this is him speaking because it says Pataw and then a colon.
So this I assume means what he's giving them.
A disabling and sorry, I had to go because it's written twice for some reason.
One side by side by the German and then once below it would just be English, but it's
slightly different.
And I had to read the second one just because it's worded slightly better.
A disabling of the man's spermatic ducts is not harmless because it can have serious
consequences based on language problems in the form of aphasia, which means a speech
disorder, slow loss of speech.
And in the worst case to complete speech adjustment or silencing aphasia, I believe is what Bruce
Willis was diagnosed with recently.
Oh, really?
Yeah, probably because of the vasectomy.
Yeah, the cause is a brain disease, which is caused by the inhibition and through which
sperm usually also enters the blood in a harmful way.
So because the sperm has nowhere to go, it just gets in the blood and you can't talk
right.
Okay.
In certain cases, other types of damage can also occur, e.g. Parkinson's syndrome.
And then Billy says, you, this is unpleasant.
Our doctors probably have no idea about this.
And then right above that was a question about Viagra.
So I was like, okay, let's see what they say about this.
Okay, let's see.
And very curious now as well.
This is Pataw speaking.
This is the one that looks more like a Wikipedia page.
You can hide the German or hide the English.
Okay.
And then he's saying, I was just outside with Karen, who is on night duty.
I talked to her for a while and told her she might see her ship.
Welcome and greetings, my friend, Pataw.
Thank you for your welcome and also be greeted.
Two, when I fly away, I want to do it so Karen can watch me.
Billy, I am sure she will be pleased if I can hammer you right away with my questions.
With keeping in mind, he wants to talk about Viagra.
Interesting way to phrase that.
Three.
Okay, so Pataw's paragraphs are numbered, but Billy's aren't.
There's nothing against it, Pataw says.
Billy, good thanks.
Well, during your last visit, I asked you whether it is customary for you as for us here on
earth for men to cry out for artificial erectile dysfunction drugs and if you can take a closer
look at Viagra.
I'm going to skip ahead a bit.
I explained that I found it shameful and unworthy that such artificial means for potency, enhancement,
sex pleasures and degenerate sex practices are used by terrestrial men.
If potency drops due to any illness or other physical circumstances and cannot be regenerated,
then such means should not be used but only natural substances.
If even these are no longer helpful, then there is no shame if the potency can no longer
be brought to bear.
Such things also occur with us, which is however carried with decency and composure.
If we have lost our potency for whatever reason and it can no longer be regenerated naturally,
then it is common practice for us to accept this and not create any problems from it.
According to our ethics, to use potency enhancing substances for pure sexual pleasure or degenerate
sex practices is a disgraceful act and is equivalent to prostitution, which we consider
reprehensible and do not practice.
With regards to Viagra, I have taken possession of this drug, analyzed it very carefully and
found that it contains very dangerous substances that can not be harmful to health but can
even be fatal and not only for people with heart diseases.
I find it very interesting that you can't get a vasectomy because then the sperm stays
in the balls and then decides to go in the blood, but if you're impotent and the sperm
staying in the balls because of that, it's just accepted and apparently doesn't lead
to aphasia or Parkinson's disease.
It's amazing.
It's almost like somebody is just, you know, putting their own beliefs and there's no actual
thought put into it or science behind it.
Yeah.
And it's like, no, and just contradicts itself all over the place.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's that's what I ended up going down with that because my God, there's so
many different ways to go.
I saw Billy had a frequently asked questions page.
Yep.
Yeah, I lost where it was, though.
Oh, here it is.
Found it.
Oh, never mind.
Right.
Sorry.
What I ended up, I ended up on the, they have a write up about the 2012 apocalypse and
I have to read one little thing from it really quick.
Okay, please do.
Because one person that we have covered was deep into that.
And I think you would find this an interesting thing to hear.
Who was it?
Well, David Wilcock did that.
He was big into it.
All right.
The alleged imminent end of the world and end of all time, which has been announced by
the creators of angst and panic for a very long time for the 21st of December, 2012,
and which is often in daily conversation is so nonsensical that even stupid chickens
would have to laugh about it.
Or they given the possibility of having knowledge and understanding about it.
And this has to be a word that we borrowed from German.
Otherwise, I don't understand how they got to this point.
Also the governments allow the entire nonsense, whereby especially sect twerps have free
reign for their howlingly dimwitted machinations, as do all other traders in the soul who court
trouble and chase their unaccountable believers into angst, panic and terror.
Or the end of world theorists can work on unhindered and prophetically announced chaos
upon chaos, whereby the earth is supposed to disappear from the universe, just as is
naturally the entirety of humanity, absolutely all life.
Now exactly this howling dimwittedness is being prophesized again for the year 2012,
because once more it did not function with the year 2000 being the turn of the century
in the millennium.
Yeah.
So I don't love the language that we see on love.
I do like twerp is I don't know how you come to that other than that has to be a German
word that we borrowed.
Maybe it is.
I wouldn't know the etymology of twerp, but that would make sense.
Wouldn't it be funny if it's not and it's just a translated word?
The last thing I wanted to leave off was more just to give you an idea of how all of the
conversations, what would he call them?
Like his channelings, maybe conversations with the aliens for the works that he has
are set up and Taylor read a little bit of it.
I also just want to follow up with another big hitter on the FIG website, which is the
coronavirus.
They're still uploading stuff onto this with updates.
So I'm just going to read it like Taylor said, one column's German, the next is English.
So it's just a translation.
I really wish I could read German in this instance, but here we are all fluent English
listeners and speakers.
I assume at least if you're listening to us, at least sort of kind of as a reading English
kind of okay.
The particular one that I open is facts about the coronavirus excerpt from the 769 contact
from Saturday the 17th of April, 2021, he did the 10th of May, 2021.
I don't know.
An ask it says, but why did you not answer the question about the behavior in relation
to an immunization?
I have no idea why it's set up like this, by the way, Billy says, you are probably referring
to the woman's question as to whether she should be vaccinated and with which preparation.
Yes, folks.
You heard it right, he is commenting on vaccinations.
A skit says yes.
Billy says, well, this is something that Sifath has already told me that I should never do
such a thing and must not do it because in any case, and in every respect, well, it's
not natural.
Yeah, we just learned that about Viagra.
Every human being must have the right and has the right to decide everything for himself
for herself, no matter in which concern and thing, consequently, he, she must not allow
himself herself to be influenced in any form by third party.
That is exactly what you said to girl and I have kept it to for my long life and have
done well with it.
The writing is so strange and it has to be translation.
Ask it says yes.
I remember that.
Really, exactly, therefore, I cannot and must not allow myself to tell or even advise any
human being whether or not they should be vaccinated because in any case, it must always
be and remain their own decision also because it would be irresponsible because a positive
or negative effect or non effect can be connected with a vaccination or there can even be late
effects that only appear days, weeks, months, years, even decades later in some form or
another, in which case it cannot even be determined that these are late effects of a vaccination
or any other earlier medication and so forth.
Therefore, under no circumstances must I get involved in giving advice to a human being
as to whether or not he or she should be vaccinated.
Consequently, everyone has to think about it for himself, herself and come to his or
her own decision as to what he or she...
If I disregard the inoculation and only consider simple aches and pains such as headaches or
so forth, which are just temporary ailments, then that is something different because here
and there I can give advice from my own experience such as for a curative action or a natural
remedy or something.
Ask it that way.
That may well be the case, but I would be interested to know what you can explain in
more detail regarding the worldwide spread of the rampantly spreading disease and the
protective measures against it.
Billy, you are probably referring to vaccines and vaccinations and so far, ask it yes.
Lorena, I would also be interested in your knowledge.
Okay, I'm going to end it there because he is now numbering things for a great deal of
pages.
I am still scrolling.
I am now like seven pages down.
I am not reading that.
That's the first time I read that.
I just chose it at random to read to you.
I find it interesting that I thought we were going in there to find out your opinion on
the vaccinations and they seemed more interested in his opinion about the vaccinations.
They being his multiple personalities.
I'm assuming.
That's really odd.
The last thing was I'm interested to hear what you think towards Billy.
So I find that to be a very interesting twist that is not the aliens giving their opinions
and Billy preaching that it's them asking Billy what they think about it.
Yeah, any thoughts?
Not just about this, but of the whole, I mean, it's a strange place, isn't it?
These websites, like I even I just ended up on creationaltruth.org, which these are all
rabbit holes in themselves to other rabbit holes and yeah, I had a really hard time with
this one, as you could tell.
And this is it because you can't find it outside of them.
And they link to other websites within the FIGU, which is super strange in itself.
So you just keep going back and forth between all these weird like websites back to weird
90s FIGU websites.
And there's a while I had to take a break because I wasn't making sense of why the fuck
it was doing that.
It's been a roller coaster.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't quite know where I stand on it myself right now.
I feel like we could do so many episodes on these teachings.
Like my God, literally just read them here.
I thought I was able.
There are thousands of pages of writing.
Thousands, probably a good 20% on coronavirus and lightning speed.
And when you read it, like it's clearly this guy writing it all himself.
You can tell it's all worded the same and everything from like a weird German language.
Yeah.
There's no even like translate the like.
The purest language, not like this thing that we speak, which apparently is not a language.
Yeah.
No, it's been a super weird journey.
I really thought I was going to have a lot of third party sources breaking it down, but
I didn't.
So this is the episode you get.
It's a grayish area of probably someone that's particularly mentally ill reading a lot of
stuff or lightning speed.
Stoppers from a delusion of grandeur that is beyond that.
I think we've really focused on even David Wilcock did not have a cult.
I think he would want to, but he doesn't have a cult.
He would love a cult.
David Wilcock would fucking love a cult.
He at least is a pathological liar.
And he stayed, he keeps us evilness to just outside of the ufology conventions where he
sets up this table for free.
Yeah.
No, that's David Wilcock, not the FIG folks.
Super strange.
I found this all to be super weird and I wasn't expecting it, I gotta say.
And I feel like it's a little bit of a confluted episode because I don't even know what the
fuck I just.
I just feel like one off episodes in the future could literally just be teachings of FIGU
because there's just so much in there.
That would be gold.
I mean, if we're really struggling, yeah, we could definitely just open up the website.
You know, I might even have to cite it every now and then because they seem to touch on
a lot of like the things that we've talked about before, like prop circles.
Do Pleiadians exist?
I wish I had that.
I haven't done a Pleiadians episode.
Maybe that comes up when I do that.
Yeah, maybe.
He has all the stuff.
Maybe they live.
What kind of animals do they have?
Why is Billy the only one being contacted?
Structures on Mars?
Yeah.
Oh my god, Betty and Bernie Hill.
What?
Stickers?
Urgent appeal.
Stickers.
Oh, these stickers suck.
Hold on.
Overpopulation, death or life.
I need to get one of these for my car.
Stop the overpopulation.
I really wanted to click they have a comic, but you have to download the comic and I'm
pretty sure there's going to be viruses on this webpage.
UFOs are real reality.
Oh, these are some nice stickers, you guys.
Okay, but anyhow, Chelsea, thank you so much for this.
It's there's a plethora of things that we have to take from this.
And also, I don't know how I can leave with even more questions in my brain because I
have so many questions in my brain just about life.
And I didn't think there's more room for questions yet.
I thought you were going to have some answers.
I know.
Answered none.
I only had any questions.
Yeah.
Well, where do we get those Tibetan core boards?
Yeah.
Anyhow, Chelsea, thank you so much.
I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.
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