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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe.
Maybe now an invasive chemical in the environment?
We don't know for sure and only time will tell.
We are your intrusive host, Taylor and Chelsea.
We are here today continuing on with our friend, little Billy, who only got one arm and he's
got a whole lot to tell us, I assume.
You just salute that we're the plastic in the environment?
We don't know for sure, time can only tell.
Shift.
Okay, part two, sentence one.
Welcome to part two of the Beam story.
You've heard the life of Beam and some other stuff that was related but in a different
part of the episode.
We were there, I don't have to say it again.
So in this episode we're going to focus a little bit more on the proof that makes him
the only scientifically proven UFO contactee.
That's right, not just Emanuel.
Billy has written an enormous, as I can't emphasize to you enough that it is enormous,
enormous amount documenting lessons, observances, takeaways, I don't know, he's just rain fucking
everything down based on his experiences and contact with the Pledgeon and the Confederates
that we got an idea of in the last episode.
You are to love the fact that one of these groups goes by the Confederates.
I don't know, like I didn't see anything written about it.
I think the Confederates are like the other types of races?
Is that the idea?
Well yeah, in my mind, Confederate means amalgamation.
Yeah, like I don't know.
I wrote the episode, but how are you feeling about it?
Yeah, no, a confederation is a political union of sovereign states.
So it is just a group of people who, I don't know, are not the Pledgearans, I think is
what they're called.
But still, still, that word has connotations.
It does, from which, oh this is after, okay.
Anyhow, we touched on the contact files last week, I read you a very minor portion of one.
By minor portion, I mean like 1% of one, we went through a little bit of.
And since Monday, January 28th, 1975, until Tuesday, January 4th, 2022, there have been,
this is a random set of dates, there have been 2,241 purely mission related and personal
contacts and 1,547 telepathic contacts with the extraterrestrials from the Pledgearan
in the Ankar universe and from their Federation members as well as with Asketonera from the
Dahl universe of the Twin Creation.
Whereby, these contacts are still continuing.
From the 790 contacts, there are written contact reports compiled so far in 19 blocks
of about 500 pages.
Purely provided with time, documents, newspaper cuttings, etc., as evidence of fulfilled predictions
and events.
A very large number of purely private visits during which only private conversations are
held are not included in the purely mission related official contact reports.
Some of the subject matters discussed are creation and its creations.
I'm probably sure that should say creators.
That was not my spelling error.
I must point out, by the way, origin of the universe, Earth history, science, astronomy,
spirituality, reincarnation, genetic engineering, terrestrial religions, human evolution, spiritual
teachings, interplanetary spaceflight, galactic federation, extraterrestrial origin and visitations
to Earth, telepathy, overpopulation on Earth, huge one by the way, we're going to discuss
next week.
Construction of the environment, male-female relationships, government, military cover-ups,
and many more.
One thing to know about Billy, if I didn't cover it in the last episode that is, is that
he has all the evidence of this happening.
I covered it a little bit as in his little log he had of the Great Journey.
He really laid it out that he had a photo and took a lot of photos of that journey.
And man are they beautiful photos, we're going to look at them today.
You're not, you're going to see them wherever I so choose to put them.
I will describe them to you, don't worry.
Yeah, we'll describe them.
It's going to be a real nice description, I'll tell you that much.
And I wanted to start off, Taylor, there is a very famous photo of BMs that is as close
to pop culture as a UFO photo can get.
One that I'm going to describe to you right now and you're going to be able to picture
it in your mind because I guarantee you you've seen it.
Do you know what it might be if I put it to you that way?
I would assume it's that flying disc that is just sitting there in the 1950s style and
the way it does that has been clearly disproven as like on a fishing line.
I love where you're going with that.
I can see that you're clearly seeing it in your mind, but I'm going to put it more into
view for you now.
That being I said to you, I want to believe.
What would you picture in your mind?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, it is a, it is very clearly the X files poster then.
That is a Billy Meyer photo.
I did not know that.
I neither did I when I was looking into this.
Yeah, obviously, whether or not you are a UFO fan or anything like that, even if you're
a horror fan, science fiction fan, that's going to tie you into Billy Meyer right now
because I think most of the people who are listening to this episode now are going to
be able to clearly picture this in their mind.
That's Billy Meyer.
So you can see the direction this is going because that's an actual photo of Billy Myers,
which is why he seems to be such an epic person in the UFO community.
I had only listened to him.
I don't know why I'm doing this in this episode now, but I always remember him as obviously
he hasn't been into, I don't think he's English if he speaks any English as Quidd, listening
to people talking about Billy Meyer on Coast to Coast AM and stuff like that, and he is
just regarded as something larger than life as someone that has the evidence of extraterrestrials.
Yeah, in my mind, really, everything that I know from Billy Meyer is gleamed from him
from people who speak English who run into him at Youngfrago Park.
They're almost representing him, which would be the fact if they're on Coast to Coast
AM talking about him really, and like I started the first episode with...
Well, can I just add the beautiful thing about him not representing himself in English is
that when his ideas are presented, they don't need to be defended either because they're
not your ideas, they're Billy's.
So you don't have to defend them.
So it's actually a beautiful situation to be involved in.
I love that you're saying it that way too, is we're going to have a very different conversation
next week as well.
So yeah, as he puts it, he's one of the only people that have the scientific evidence of
all of this happening and evidence he has absolute shit-hands of.
And so a big resource I used for this episode is the Future of Mankind website, which is
a resource for information produced by Billy Meyer, and they put it all in a nice little
list of all the different evidences that Beam has acquired over all of these years.
Not only do they speak for him and put together his information, they also translate it from
German.
I'm just going to go through kind of the list they put of all the evidence he has and
I have put with it where need be...
Well, let's just stop.
I'm going to stop explaining myself.
The first is hundreds of thousands of photos taking of beam ships and their landing tracks.
They're things photographs of five different variations of spacecraft from 3.5 to 7 meter,
usually piloted by humans as well as photographic evidence of his travels through space and
time.
There are photographs of single or multiple objects day and night settings above and
below the horizon line.
There exist photo and super 8 footage, film analyzed by electron microscope, laser scanning
and computer functions, thermogram, edge identification, z scale contour, density and film grain inspection,
processed by electron microscope, micro densitometer, infradometer, viticon tube, digitizer image
process computer equipment.
We're going to take a closer look at some of the photographs in a second, but it is
the assessment of an author that I looked into and he was looking into some of the photos
and he concluded that 100% of them are fabricated and therefore this is going to come to a major
shock to you guys at this point.
But he means them pokes.
Yeah, and I have to say that we hear a lot of the time on the other end, if one of these
is true, that's something that needs to be talked about.
I think the other situation here as well is also important.
If one of these is faked, that brings into question all of them for this guy.
Even one of them.
And he has such a massive, massive, massive collection of this.
And because the question really becomes if you had to fake one, why are any of them taken
to be true then?
Exactly.
If you've been able to get actual evidence, why would you fake even one?
So we're just going to keep going.
We're going to go on a fun adventure.
Oh, that sounds fun.
I know it's going to be so fun.
I had fun putting this together.
The fact that none of the craft photographed exhibit any type of field propulsion distortion
adds to this conclusion, keeping in mind the physical properties of scale, proportion,
line of sight, field of view and focus.
It appears that some of the purported Billy Meyer photo appear to be small scale models,
approximately four inches in diameter, which have been suspended in front of the camera.
Later, additional photo trickery was applied to remove any evidence of strings or wires
if the alleged encounters with these UFOs did actually take place.
Why is it then that none of the residents of the homes in the immediate vicinity photograph
them?
So I just put that with the evidence that the Billy Meyer representation put forth that
some of the evidence is photos.
So we're going to go on to the next evidence that Billy Meyer has from this agency that
put them together.
And he has different segments of eight millimeter motion picture film.
The films show variations in flight of ships, multiple craft appearances, instantaneous
spatial translations by spacecraft, versions of the film have been analyzed in frame by
frame format.
I have nothing to say about this.
We're going to move on to the next part of evidence he has, which is four metal, one
biological and nine mineral and crystal samples.
The metal analysis was described thoroughly in videotape format, beam ship the metal.
I don't even know what that fucking means.
It showed that the metal was made by a cold fusion process.
This technology is not yet known by terrestrial metallurgy.
I did find someone that did have something to say about the metal that Billy has.
And according to Moose Burger, who looked into this, the analysis was also conducted
by a metallurgist from the University of Arizona who quote, examined one of the metal fragments
and analyzed it as a simple cooking pot metal or cheap cast metal alloy used to produce
such things as tin soldiers and quote, that speaks for itself.
The next part of evidence that they put forth for Billy Meyer is a 20 minute sound recording
of a beam ship's whirring sound.
And the sound recordings of a non shielded beam ship was taking in the presence of several
witnesses who heard the deafening noise but weren't able to observe the ship that was
screamed from sight.
The loud whirring sound could have been heard for more than four kilometers as was confirmed
by persons who soon arrived at the location.
The scientific investigation showed that the sound is comprised of many tones and frequencies
with unusual anomalies and rapid changes in tone and frequencies.
I didn't, it says listen to it here and I didn't actually put it in.
We shall, we should listen to that.
Let's see if I can find it.
The next piece of evidence is landing tracks.
Depending on the type of beam ship there could have been one or three landing tracks.
When three they were 120 degrees apart, circular, grass was depressed and counter clockwise
rotational direction visible for months after landing occurred.
Both existing and new grass were affected.
We saw that in Stanley Tiger, he took pictures of landing tracks from you.
He was good for him.
Yeah, I know good for him.
He was amazing.
You were so hard.
Stanley Tiger was a hard worker if nothing else.
He was.
Actually, he reminds me a lot of Billy Meyer.
Or the other way around.
That's what we found out.
He was inspired.
Last point to their evidence is witnesses.
This is my favorite point of evidence.
It actually is the most important part of evidence I found.
In addition to Billy quotes Meyer, there are more than 70 people who have witnessed the
evidence regarding the Pleiadians, Les Pledgeirons and their beam ships or Billy himself witnessed
it, which is proof enough that this is all happening.
So not only did they bless us with that list of all the evidence that he has, they also
put up why beams photos differ from any other UFO case or photo that you see of UFOs.
This is coming straight from his organization's website.
I know that hasn't come up yet, but just let that wash over you and we'll pick that thought
back up on the next episode.
So here we go.
Billy Edward Albert Meyer's photos differ from all other known UFO cases by their outstanding
picture quality.
They're, I'm gotta say, I'm surprised these are in bullet point and they're not numbered.
Their large number, hundreds of them, hundreds.
Daylight and nighttime photography, diversity of positions, angles, perspective techniques,
etc.
Most images are part of sequences of photographs, which are timely.
Images with several UFOs in a single photo.
Eight millimeter film footage recorded in parallel to the photos.
Additional recordings and photographic documentation, example laser fire traces.
All photography and motion video footage was taken before the possibility of computer manipulation
was developed.
Most captured using standard popular cameras, commercially available on Olympus 35, ECR,
and Malcolm FTL.
Photography camera data, however, there are several other cameras that have been used.
Documented and verifiable location dates and times.
Photos of the film negatives themselves.
Decades of all sorts of different investigations by individuals and groups all over the world.
Plenty of honest answers given about every possible aspect of it.
Are you convinced?
Oh, fully.
Fully.
At this point, right?
Yeah.
You read that and you're like, fuck, that gotta be some good.
Good photos.
Oh yeah.
I don't know anything about photographs, so yeah.
Exactly.
It sounds legit.
So the next thing we're going to take a look at, it's just from this website that I use.
I'm going to share my screen with you and I'm just going to get your take of some photographs.
I'm going to share my screen and just let some of these photos wash over you and just
give me your impressions.
Okay.
This is one I have seen before.
I'm actually fairly certain I've seen them staging this photo.
Really?
So the thing I have to set up about this here, and I'm going to post some of these if I get
on the social media, we'll see.
I will at least post the link of this website up into the episode notes if you want to see
the exact photos that we're looking at.
You have to think these are coming from a very special time in time and space, which
is the time before AI, the time before Photoshop or anything.
Oh yeah, to be able to fake photos, you have to manually be able to do something here.
Yeah.
So this one, we're looking at some, I mean, it's beautiful Switzerland landscape is where
he's taking these photos and there's just a saucer just suspended there in midair.
And as we've kind of heard so far, it's straight.
You can't see any propulsion of any sort.
It's not twisting one way or the other.
It's just there as if suspended.
Yeah, none of them seem like they're part of the photo, but also all of the photos appear
to be of landscapes where a UFO is interjected.
Yeah.
And I guess the question really is, is why is he taking photos of these?
Yeah.
Just because it seems weird to be doing this if I don't know that it's came up.
So basically, if it hasn't come up, it's going to come up in this episode.
Basically he's had permission from the Pledgeirons to take photos of these UFOs for him to pass
on because he's a prophet to prove the existence of extraterrestrials.
Okay.
But basically you're going to hear this comment from people who are saying like, how did you
get these photos of UFOs?
Because in certain situations, it's just kind of weird for you to be taking photos.
The question is, why did you have your camera ready for this?
And he's a guy who lives in Switzerland and is used to these landscapes yet has just landscape
photos with UFOs in them.
That's one of the points against him, which I'm going to get into.
So I'm going to leave you on that frame.
We're going to look at more photos and I'm just going to keep reading and scroll through
them as we go.
So Beams photos, or as I prefer, BM through this episode, photographs and films allegedly
show not only alien spacecraft floating around various places, but also his time in space
travel.
And Taylor's just looking at the UFO photo that I stopped on and he apparently had the
exclusive rights to be photographing them.
The only person in the world with permission for the proof of his prophetism, according
to Meyer, the Pledgeirian gave him permission to photograph and film their beam chips so
that he could produce evidence of their extraterrestrial visitations.
We saw that on the last episode when he's in the spacecraft with them and they're saying,
take these photos.
I'm going to get in number.
Take these photos as well.
With the camera they stole from some earthling.
We didn't really touch on the photos of the UFOs in the previous episode, but UFOs, there
are plenty.
And he calls the UFOs beam ship.
I don't have any clue why, but I'm assuming it has to do with translation, either that
or the beam name that he goes by, which I'm assuming could also be that because we have
seen in all these episodes that we did that it takes a certain kind of narcissist that
you're sharing something like this with the UFO community.
And the beam ships are specific to the Pledgeirian.
It's probably a brand name of the UFO, like a corolla or something or a Toyota Subaru.
You got the beam ship.
And as you may or may not have put together by now, some of Meyer's photos are claimed
by him to show prehistoric earth scenes.
I may have not put that together by now because I just put it right here.
And extraterrestrials and celestial objects from an alleged non-earthly vantage point.
Meyer's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most
ufologists who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes.
I'm going to read you this next photograph and then I'm going to scroll down, Taylor.
In interviews with author Gary Kinder, Meyer admitted to using models to recreate scenes
after his wife showed photos of an incomplete model he thought he had destroyed by burning.
During a 2017 art exhibit about conspiracies, many of Meyer's photographs were shown.
Photography curator Gordon MacDonald commented on examinations from the 1970s that the photos
weren't doctored, saying, just because photographs are real, i.e. real images made with a real
camera doesn't mean they are of what a person says they are.
So I'm going to immediately, if you see this one, this UFO looks oddly in a tree and we
scroll down.
Well, Chelsea, not only that, yes, it looks like it has a hole to put a string through
in it.
Which is what exactly I just scrolled down into, which is an enlargement, and you see
the enlargement of an eye screw.
This one is particularly strange and seems to be being held up by a tree, and it is,
what are the feelings you get of this?
I just want to get your impressions.
It feels like it was Christmas ornaments gone wrong, and that they all brought themselves
together in one location on the tree and then floated away on trays.
It almost seems like it's being held up by that tree almost, right?
This one, it almost seems like it wasn't one that was meant to get out.
Again, very nice, like Swiss countryside in the background.
It's just nice.
This is very clearly something that has been put rigged up by Billy Meyer that is laughable
to think that he would even think that that would path of a UFO.
I'm just going to scroll through the rest.
So when we say this is going to come up in what I'm going to talk about next, this is
just three different kinds of UFOs just kind of suspended in midair.
Again, another one, it's not propelling one way or the other, it's just kind of suspended
there in midair.
Oh, there it is, yeah.
Another one just suspended there in midair.
Yeah, he's just taking photos of the landscape and there happens to be UFOs there.
It's just kind of weird.
So it looks like from what people have put together that he is just building little models
and suspending them with fishing wire or something like that in front of the camera.
Again, CGI is not a thing at this time, so he's having to physically build models and
make it.
And it shows.
It absolutely shows.
And while at the time it's not something people are used to seeing, it's still obviously
a hoax as far as what we're looking at.
Not only that, it's based on what people are seeing.
So they're building these models off of that in my mind.
Absolutely.
There's nothing else to base it on.
Is that absolutely looks like just like the categorical flying saucer?
Like that's just what it looks like.
Oh yeah, not even.
It's even just like finding shit that you can find in his house probably.
In 1997, Myers ex-wife Callio told interviewers that his photos were spaceship models.
He crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet, tax and other household objects and
that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious.
She's met with a little bit of skepticism because she was so involved with saying that
his story was true for a long time and she switched on him.
She also said that the photos of the purported extraterrestrial woman Asket and Nera were
really photos of Michelle Delafav and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe
the gold diggers.
Here you're going to see the photo, Taylor.
It was later confirmed that the women in the photographs were members of the gold diggers
performing on the Dean Martin show.
According to a letter posted on the FIGU website by Myers in May 1998, the extraterrestrial
PTA informed Myers that the photographs of Asket and Nera were actually of their American
doubles.
Myers went on to explain that the men in black had intercepted his film and lookalikes for
Asket and Nera took pictures of them and substituted these false images for the originals of the
Asket and Nera photos.
He claims that the men in black performed the same trickery with most of his early photos.
But if you look at this, like I can't even once we start getting into this, this shit
is so clearly just bad photography of very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
of things that are actually going on.
Yeah.
Of things that are going on that he's trying to say, it's just bad photography.
This is clearly the same people.
It really is.
Yeah.
There's no question that those are the same people.
Yeah.
No, seriously, from looking at it for two seconds, there's no question those were the
exact same photos.
It just needed to be put.
I mean, if you see that other one, you're going to say, okay, yeah, they maybe look
like extraterrestrials, maybe not because they're doing, they're, they look human and
there's nothing extraterrestrial about their facial features, anything other than it's
overexposed.
We're going to see some header.
I don't know how this man has got so far in his life yet.
Here we are talking about him.
Meyer has been widely characterized as a fraud by skeptics and ufologists who suggest that
he used models to hoax photo claims to show alien spacecraft.
Meyer's prophecies repeatedly blame Jews, who he refers to as gypsies for future atrocities.
Yeah, fair enough.
That's what they do.
Yep.
That is what they do.
That's what most of them do.
I'm sorry, fair enough is not the right way to say that.
Yeah, no, yeah.
That's what we've seen, yes, in people of this.
Some of Meyer's claims involve not yet discovered facts about their solar system, including
a description of Almothia, the closest moon to Jupiter, which he claimed was 200 kilometers
in length.
While unfortunately incorrect, a 1979 article in the New York Times also came to the same
wrong conclusion about Almothia.
Meyer also asserted that another Jupiter moon known as low had once been covered with water,
which was also later proven to be incorrect.
Now there has been claims he has made that have been correct, but I mean, it's the best
shit to the wind.
I.O.
Not low.
Oh, I.O.
Okay.
Yeah, it's a deceptive title for it.
I learned something new.
Yeah.
This is something we're seeing, and I'll give you my opinions at the end of this, but we're
seeing are not aging well because he's using a camera being like, well, if I do it this
way, nobody's ever going to know because the technology's not that great.
And that wasn't his excuse was the technology's not that great.
It just just it just was that it just wasn't great.
So I could see how some people would be like, wow, this is real stuff.
He was using very simple ways of making it look like he was doing things.
Billy Meyer's credibility fell further upon the discovery that thousands of photos he'd
taken in the 1970s proved to be fabrications.
These photos feature purported spacecraft referred to as beam ships flying over the countryside.
Over the years, the validity of these pictures has been dismissed for a myriad of reasons,
including that the spacecraft was perfectly focused and centered within the frame.
Upon close inspection, numerous photos were also found to contain household items passing
for pieces of ships such as ice screws that suspended the models in the air or even cups,
bowls, and paper plates that made up the bodies of the crafts.
After closely examining literally thousands of UFO photos originating from the Wendell
Stevens Collection, 14 significant criteria photos became abundantly clear, which can
be used to gauge the authenticity of a particular image.
Any purported UFO photo, which contains three or more of the photos listed below should
immediately raise a red flag and indicate a strong possibility that the photo was a
hoax.
1.
Multiple grouped UFOs photographed in the same shot.
2.
UFO never photographed on the ground.
3.
Object too large or disproportionate, which is use of forced or false perspective technique.
4.
Object perfectly centered in the frame.
5.
Object positioned perfectly about the vertical axis.
6.
Object photographed too clear.
7.
Objects surrounded by trees or various structures to obscure suspension rig.
8.
Evidence of fabrication using household items, cups, balls, paper plates, ornaments, lids.
9.
Identical background used to photograph different craft.
10.
Evidence of eye screws used to hang models from suspension rig.
11.
Multiple craft photographed on the same date.
12.
Lack of field propulsion distortion.
13.
Lack of photographs of identical craft from a totally separate source.
14.
Consistent encounters of a craft in rural or unpopulated areas.
As we talked about in 1975, Meyer alleged he made two journeys through space and time
with his plegering contactors.
During his alleged journey he witnessed the historic Apollo Soyuz coupling on July 17th.
He visited moons and planets in our solar system and in other far away galaxies he even
visited another parallel universe called the Dahl universe.
That's where one of them would have been from.
I can't remember the name.
His second space journey described in contact report 39 was started December 3rd 1975 and
lasted two days.
He was taken through a dimensional gate opened at the Bermuda Triangle that allowed access
into three different dimensions and time planes.
According to the contact notes, Meyer alleged he made more than 1380 pictures from his two
journeys out of which he claims that many hundreds have either been lost, stolen, unusable
due to over exposure or distortions or falsified.
We're going to take a look at his space trip.
Are you ready?
No, I'll never be ready for this apparently.
I'm ready for this.
Where is it?
Right here.
Okay, so we're going to look at the photos that Billy Meyer took.
So I'm going to read you this first.
It has all the fucking details here.
Date July 17 1975.
I'm not stated.
Location inside Sam Jass' spacecraft on the way to the planet Venus.
Meyer photo number not listed in the...
Ring-a-la-la-la.
And now I'm going to show you the photo I'm going to move down.
You know what?
I already read this to you.
So basically, he's taken a photograph of Venus.
Here you're going to see Billy Meyer's photo if you can see where my mouth says.
And you're going to see right next to it are Mariner 10's ultraviolet filtered images
of Venus from its February 1974 flyby right next to it there.
So he took this right directly from a book and took a photo of it.
Yeah, it really looks like that.
It really looks like that.
Weird he couldn't get a closer photo of Venus having flown to it. No, it's it's a very strange thing
I'm just gonna keep going through. I mean those just look like whatever so here's another this is Myers right here
Yeah, and weirdly yeah, there's even the real photo with the satellites that he has
Broke out the photo directly from NASA that is next to it that is literally the exact photo
He just took a and it has to be because he cropped out only part of the satellite that is included in this NASA photo
They're dead so somebody actually went through all these photos and found the and I can't really call it
Inspiration of what do you think how why did he include so many satellites in these photos that he took?
You know, I'm gonna say this one that we're looking at right now. That's not even a fucking photo. That's a drawing
Yeah, the Viking opener spacecraft releases the aeroshell cloud Ladner near the high point of its orbit around Mars
It's a drawing here. We go and this is my favorite one. This is Billy Meyer and Patat
Okay, and so we're gonna scroll down right here. Here we go. This is from an episode of
mouse on the moon from
1963 so he just took a picture of a TV with this they found the photo that matches with the photo
He took it looks somewhat similar. Yeah, it's a diss somewhat. Yeah, might be that pretty sure it is
Here's another one they matched up prehistoric Earth with two moons
I can I'm gonna link this web up in the show notes as well
It clearly is debunking a lot of these photos and showing the inspiration from them
This Myers image of a supposed beam ship monitor devices eerily similar to a terrestrial
Oscilloscope this is a long write-up going into it. I'm just looking at the photos on this one
It actually debunks and talks about all of it. I'm doing this episode
So that's the end of us looking at it. That's enough for you
You can read through it if you want they'll be on the episode note next one up
This is my favorite one Billy Myers as you know traveled back through time, right?
I mean he had to because we've said that several times now. Yeah, I'm gonna share my screen again
Let me know when you're up. Yeah, got it. Well, no, we saw a pterodactyl
I know and I
Mean I never saw a pterodactyl. He's one up on me
I know so what we're looking at is a photo Billy took of a pterodactyl on one of his time travel adventures and
I'm just gonna read for you right now some correspondence that comes with this photograph
Dear Billy enclosed is my quick translation of a letter to the editor by Ray Rimmel of England
Which he wrote to the magazine 14 times on account of your alleged dinosaur photos
Which the magazine had apparently printed an issue 9157 here's what the man wrote
I was fascinated by Billy Myers dinosaur photograph actually. It's a parodon a sort of
Tyrosaur so here we are looking at it the image did look very familiar
It bears a spooky similarity to a famous painting by the acclaimed Czech paleo artist
stink
Burian and has appeared in many books since the early 1960s
I too have managed to photograph a Tyrosaur
But did take the trouble to make a model rather than rely on a piece of artwork does this mean that mr
Meyer didn't travel to the Mesozoic after all I think we should be
Wait, I also I did that means that he's seen a Tyrosaur or a pterodon in the modern world
Yeah, well, we know that there's pterodactyl sightings. Oh all the time all the time
That's an episode in the future. No, we have not
That's what I thought we didn't do it. We need to do it because there's pterodactyl sightings all the time all the time
Like there goes one now. Yeah, there goes two in fact
One just happened to be in present and one happened to be jerk
So the enclosed illustration with text was sent over to us by Norman to
In this who lives in Boca Raton, Florida who was already discovered several things in some magazines or the internet and is always helpful to you
But this time even he thinks that this accusation makes him sad
Even though he still believes in your genuine context
But it is this sort of thing that turns people against Billy as far as I know
He has also sent you these color images, but may not this letter to the editor Shalom and best regards
I love how there's a heart here H&B and here we go. Are you ready? Yeah?
I scroll down you're gonna be hard-breath to find a similarity. Yeah
I mean, there's there's nothing similar between these photos other than I think literally everything about
Maybe the background has been blurred too much to get any detail. It's an overexposed photo. Yeah, it's clearly that exact
Photo and the funny thing is you know it has to be overexposed because Myers couldn't have seen a creature who had its throat entirely
Missing I'm not sure what's going on in that painting, but it's clearly missing in Myers's photo
Yeah, right around the spot where the white spot is in Birian's photo
So I just want to read you Billy's response to this because I just think that it so wonderfully
Encapsulates how he deals with anybody coming at him calling it fake
So Billy's response Shalom Heidi and Bob
I had received with thanks your letter dated January 25th. The pictures were also included of course indeed
I have already received this one probably even from the man whom you mentioned to my knowledge
We have not responded to him. Perhaps we should still do this
However, it may also be that it was good as such and that perhaps you can enlighten the man the circumstances are as follows
For my part I can no longer recall exactly how many pictures I made on my great journey
But there were several hundred today all of these pictures are no longer available
Also, no slides and no negatives or films because all the material was taken away from me and destroyed by Quetzal
The reason for this was that he was furious because countless of these pictures and slides as well as films were falsified in order to
Discriminate against me the counterfeits were distributed in many places and even exchanged with my own material
Whereby the genuine shots. Yeah, like in his own book
Yeah, how could they which were so numerous that replacements of the slides were no longer noticeable to me especially since I
Now at that time some jassy told me that some
Mecanation like this took place and that therefore I should handle the material more carefully
Which Quetzal also suggested to me who even forbade me from continuing to use the pictures and slides
Then one day he told me that a large part of my photographs were still being maliciously tampered with and had been distributed
And that also group members had come into possession of falsified photos and slides because I have given them a son without knowing that these were already fakes
Etc. Consequently Guido has also received such pictures and slides for me
Well one day Quetzal took all the material and destroyed it through which greater harms should probably be avoided
Nevertheless many falsified pictures and slides are still in circulation all over the world and indeed so
Numerously as Quetzal said that not all of these can be investigated
So everything is simply left as is which is also true of photos and slides of the ships
Thus in accordance with these facts
It is very well possible that in concerns of forgery with the right image which is foisted on me
He had already been maliciously foisted on me by a willful exchange however the breast portion of the flying dinosaur
As well as the underside of the beak appears suspicious to me because these are not consistent with the picture of the artist Zendinek
Brian no way Chelsea
I just want to make sure that he is both saying at this point
Yeah, clearly somebody else fraud at these but also this one's not fraud because
Because it's different from the photo, but it's clearly still the photo just under yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it right, okay?
Okay, it gets better and honestly it gets better anyhow as to whether this is fake or not on the one hand
There are at least two striking differences on the other hand
I cannot judge whether the image committed to me is genuine or not because it had already been too long that I can still remember all
Picture slides and films especially because many memories have been erased from my memory and haven't been reclaimed after my serious health
Collapse in November of 1982 when I suffered a severe head trauma and lost large parts of my memory capacity now
Of course, I won't simply let the matter rely on itself
But we'll ask put a at the next opportunity who can surely give me information
But when will come I do not know but I will fax you his answer
Promptly as soon as he has appeared and has given me a suitable explanation
Unfortunately up to now the events surrounding the fakes and concerning the photo slides and films destroyed by Quetzal
Haven't been mentioned much in the contact reports because everything took place outside of the public contact conversations
But I'm sure that pitab will answer the question at least in the framework that he knows until then all the 11 all the best
Oh six thirty nineteen ninety seven three p.m. Billy so petah does respond and his response is
Translator note the following response was giving February 3rd
1998 which is
six seven eight months later during the
260th contact petah says your letter replies absolutely correct
But it would still be a value to deliver from my side the following explanation
We and other people in your immediate and wider vicinity in accordance with our own and also your
Clarifications are well aware that many of your photos relating to our aircraft and others are connected to us
We're maliciously falsified or were even imitated from the ground up and became falsified in this manner in this regard
Not only was the photographer extremely busy whom you know by the name of schmid of the Rhine Valley
What but also several other people at home in front who are jealous and who are still to this very day who the fuck is
Schmid of the Rhine Valley
I feel like it's something in the lower that we should just know at this point, but we don't okay
I mean if we're going through all the contact reports up until the
260th one among the forgeries and falsifications
weren't just the photos that showed our aircraft but also those images that you made on your great journey this is especially true for the
dinosaur images as well as the Apollo
What it was at Soyuz was something other than that images
Oh, but also various other images belong with these overall as we've determined through the detailed investigations
You had made
376 photos which is actually a different number than I said above with your Olympus ECR 35 millimeter camera as well as
34 films with your movie camera that you could use with just one hand of the photos several hundreds were stolen from you
I love how this guy's recounting it for you exactly and more over most importantly that I'm sure he's the one who's actually
Relaying it too because I'm pretty sure we don't hear from Pataw directly
I'm pretty sure that is the case as well at least which we could clarify
230 of these were falsified there was also falsifying through the manipulation of several films and to be sure in the way that our
spacecraft were suddenly represented as though these have been suspended from thin strings or wires, etc
And so the impression was made that these were models
Concerning the dinosaur images that were addressed in the letter to you
It seems to me as you mentioned that some isn't right or as I see the two images aren't exactly alike
It may be that is forgery that has been foisted upon you like also so many other forgeries as I already explained
But now we can no longer investigate what is actually the case
Unfortunately because as you know Quetzal took all the originals and copies and slides and negatives, etc from your workroom and eliminated them
So today we can no longer investigate the concerns in this respect
Well, it is so unfortunate that Quetzal turns out to be a dick and just take all these photos so we don't have them
Yeah, I mean whatever your coincidence easily. I mean if we had those and Quetzal wasn't such a dick
We would have the answer at these are all bullshit lies
wasted on Billy but Billy does respond to Pataw and Billy says Quetzal acted perhaps
somewhat hastily, huh? Yes, that's the words I would use for Quetzal. Yeah, perhaps Quetzal is a dick
I don't think that was the case but I says where as it proved itself
It really was necessary
We also should have done the same thing with various images of our aircraft a lot of harm would have been avoided through this
Especially if we secured the deceitful forgeries and falsifications produced by the FOMO and film
Counterfeits but in this connection we had to comply with our directives as this was also recommended to us by the High Council
We could and were allowed to intervene directly only in those concerns that stood in a direct relationship with us
And this was just your personal filming of photo material. I quite enjoyed that that was my favorite one that I stumbled upon
It was clearly that photo that was taken a picture of there are no if ands and buts
There is no there are definitely differences. It is that photo
I really love and this is one of those things that I always see hilariously done in court cases where somebody
Admitly denies any knowledge on anything and then gives but if I did and gives knowledge on that topic
I'm like, this is the stupidest thing you could ever fucking do because you're clearly saying that whatever you said before is a lie
Because you wanted to fend what also you were just
Yeah, no, and that's clearly what happened here is like, oh, yeah, no this other aliens told the photo
But also this one doesn't look that far off of what is not like that's not the same photo
So it may be
Not write a book that was he wrote a book if I did it. Yes
Balls you Jason I was in fact very torn on which one to go with when I was describing this topic
Do you but you know, oh J just died so you know in in commemoration of the dead we I chose to go together talking
Yeah, that's okay. I got it. Okay, so that's a lot to take in from one episode which
It's spilling into three episodes. You gotta you gotta the only I think nobody's gonna touch David will cock on
But this guy's coming up there and really the question really also becomes with David will cock is do you accept him as a
Gricchese and now become a seven topic episode
We have to follow up on him actually cuz he's we actually
Yeah, I mean bill more he had a three episode I think so it's only fair that Billy Meyer who nobody knows as much about well
Nobody knew anything
Anyhow, I'm gonna end this episode off with a quote
I stumbled upon randomly on a web page
devoted to BM and I thought that I would leave you with this food for thought
This is called quote a word about Billy by quote and quote by Eva Eury and it goes like this much has been written about
Edward Albert Meyer who is called Billy and much of it has been far from being flattering or objective
It seems that every
It seems that every human has his own subjective concept of what or rather who Billy Meyer is
The fewest know him personally and when they do know him not good enough to form an unbiased opinion about him
Most people connect him with UFOs. What is most likely since his UFO photos are known all over the world
However, this UFO thing is pushed into the background more and more and his main occupation comes forth ever
Distinctly he is a pen man a writer who has already written thousands of pages indeed not just novels
Although he has written some but writings whose content stimulates thinking and gives each person the initiative to ask ever more questions
And through this to grasp evermore answers. He is the author of umpteen books
I love that that's the scale in which she measures the amount of books
He has written that are written in a wonderful and understandable language
That's always how you want language be described. That's how I want my books to be known as this podcast even
I would love for it to be known as that
We strive we strive we really try we do our best his ink flow in in brackets
Sorry, those are not damn it. I just let you guys down and saying in understandable language his bracket book and bracket lines
Lead into worlds of which we have not dreamed of yet
It gives nourishment to our dreams and lets our fantasy turn heads over heels by touching strings within ourselves and letting them
Vibrates something possibly would have never discovered Billy is the author of many readable and interesting books
I do most people not realize this you define Billy through his UFO photos only whether these are genuine or not
Simply a waste of time. They do not realize or know that Billy's task and main occupation is to write and teach
He does this so masterly and with a fluency that every sentence fits and is correct in its meaning and all of this is
Achieved in one go without additional correcting of sentences or content that will not be imitated too easily by the so-called
Authors who polish and potter around their books for years until ultimately they publish it all the while Billy as a rule
writes a book in a few weeks or in two or three months and that is with a worthy
Content Billy has worked in a great variety of activities in many different professions in order to ultimately
Being literally left sitting with the most difficult and ambitious work to the luck of all people who read and study his books
Who are grateful that all those tremendously big treasures have been written down by him and are recorded in writing Eva
Be a re and with that I'm gonna get your thoughts, but I thought what is Billy Myers?
net worth and it's between 1 to 5 million dollars
Okay, just far more than I thought it would be considering he's selling eggs
Fair enough. He sold books to just around the same page like a lot. We did just cover that he does
Okay, and that in fact seems about like the average boomer slash silent generations net worth
Okay, okay
I think it behind that now this is the end of the episode
So I just want to get your thoughts on where we're at right now
Well, he sounds readable from what has been described. I love that last it sounds like nobody is telling us anything about the aliens other
Than Billy. No, but he's going on so many adventures with these people who are also giving their own statements
So the fact that he's called himself a prophet. I'm very curious when this turns into a cult and
How many people get involved with it is kind of what I'm waiting for
That's a very good question. So I'm not gonna give anything away for next week
But you may your answers that you may be looking for and I'm gonna tell you what my takeaways are at this point
I do know where this goes, but I haven't written the next episode yet
So there are still things that are a mystery to me so I can say this without bias this to me
seems like either a board person or a mentally ill person that
Has been entertaining this for a very very long time and has not stopped since he was a young child when he met multiple alien entities and
Made up a story for what reason I'm not sure
It might be a little concerning that there were adults grooming him to which a
entire life of
locations came but it seems to me like this is what he does he just sits and writes and creates entire
stories and
Interactions with aliens and writes them down
It seems like this is all he does because there is or he goes on wild adventures
Which he takes very weird photographs of which also happened to exist in the world outside of it already
Mm-hmm or are very easily faked very easily so to me a person that this is their whole life
Is just building its elaborate
Hokusis that are clearly been
Fabricated and then put stories around them and then follows them up with letters and stuff like that being like they're destroyed
And let's see what the aliens have to say about it and then he has the aliens have their say on it
Mm-hmm pretty disturbing as a human being that that this is where he's going with this not going with it
This is his life and the fact that we saw such blatant
Hokusis of taking pictures out of book is also fairly concerning
We haven't seen things as brazen with our well
We have seen some pretty brazen things in the history of our podcast
But it's pretty brazen to just be going through books on space and taking pictures and saying that this is what you took on a
Space adventure so yeah, those are my thoughts on it after putting okay
We have those together well
Thank you for putting this all together so far Chelsea and I am fully excited to see the point where it turns out
Billy has not been lying at all and he's just been going on spaceship adventures. We're always looking for that
We're always looking for it the surprise it was all real if you will get it part three would be a short one
Yeah, so you guys keep your eye out for that four-minute episode on a Friday coming out soon
But in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We are a journey to the fringe. Thank you all for listening
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