1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,000 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,240 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. 3 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:23,240 Maybe now an invasive chemical in the environment? 4 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:25,880 We don't know for sure and only time will tell. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,200 We are your intrusive host, Taylor and Chelsea. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,560 We are here today continuing on with our friend, little Billy, who only got one arm and he's 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,280 got a whole lot to tell us, I assume. 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,880 You just salute that we're the plastic in the environment? 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,600 We don't know for sure, time can only tell. 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Shift. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,560 Okay, part two, sentence one. 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Welcome to part two of the Beam story. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,240 You've heard the life of Beam and some other stuff that was related but in a different 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,480 part of the episode. 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,400 We were there, I don't have to say it again. 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,640 So in this episode we're going to focus a little bit more on the proof that makes him 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,680 the only scientifically proven UFO contactee. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 That's right, not just Emanuel. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Billy has written an enormous, as I can't emphasize to you enough that it is enormous, 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,440 enormous amount documenting lessons, observances, takeaways, I don't know, he's just rain fucking 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:31,120 everything down based on his experiences and contact with the Pledgeon and the Confederates 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,960 that we got an idea of in the last episode. 23 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:38,520 You are to love the fact that one of these groups goes by the Confederates. 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,560 I don't know, like I didn't see anything written about it. 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,960 I think the Confederates are like the other types of races? 26 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,440 Is that the idea? 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Well yeah, in my mind, Confederate means amalgamation. 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Yeah, like I don't know. 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,240 I wrote the episode, but how are you feeling about it? 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Yeah, no, a confederation is a political union of sovereign states. 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,840 So it is just a group of people who, I don't know, are not the Pledgearans, I think is 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,840 what they're called. 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,560 But still, still, that word has connotations. 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,240 It does, from which, oh this is after, okay. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Anyhow, we touched on the contact files last week, I read you a very minor portion of one. 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,120 By minor portion, I mean like 1% of one, we went through a little bit of. 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:33,960 And since Monday, January 28th, 1975, until Tuesday, January 4th, 2022, there have been, 38 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:41,680 this is a random set of dates, there have been 2,241 purely mission related and personal 39 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:48,640 contacts and 1,547 telepathic contacts with the extraterrestrials from the Pledgearan 40 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:54,880 in the Ankar universe and from their Federation members as well as with Asketonera from the 41 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Dahl universe of the Twin Creation. 42 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,960 Whereby, these contacts are still continuing. 43 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,360 From the 790 contacts, there are written contact reports compiled so far in 19 blocks 44 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,680 of about 500 pages. 45 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Purely provided with time, documents, newspaper cuttings, etc., as evidence of fulfilled predictions 46 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,320 and events. 47 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,240 A very large number of purely private visits during which only private conversations are 48 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,840 held are not included in the purely mission related official contact reports. 49 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Some of the subject matters discussed are creation and its creations. 50 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,600 I'm probably sure that should say creators. 51 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,640 That was not my spelling error. 52 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,760 I must point out, by the way, origin of the universe, Earth history, science, astronomy, 53 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:49,920 spirituality, reincarnation, genetic engineering, terrestrial religions, human evolution, spiritual 54 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:56,840 teachings, interplanetary spaceflight, galactic federation, extraterrestrial origin and visitations 55 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,280 to Earth, telepathy, overpopulation on Earth, huge one by the way, we're going to discuss 56 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,280 next week. 57 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Construction of the environment, male-female relationships, government, military cover-ups, 58 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,560 and many more. 59 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,680 One thing to know about Billy, if I didn't cover it in the last episode that is, is that 60 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,680 he has all the evidence of this happening. 61 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,360 I covered it a little bit as in his little log he had of the Great Journey. 62 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:33,920 He really laid it out that he had a photo and took a lot of photos of that journey. 63 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,840 And man are they beautiful photos, we're going to look at them today. 64 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,120 You're not, you're going to see them wherever I so choose to put them. 65 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560 I will describe them to you, don't worry. 66 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,160 Yeah, we'll describe them. 67 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,600 It's going to be a real nice description, I'll tell you that much. 68 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:56,800 And I wanted to start off, Taylor, there is a very famous photo of BMs that is as close 69 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,600 to pop culture as a UFO photo can get. 70 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,360 One that I'm going to describe to you right now and you're going to be able to picture 71 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,920 it in your mind because I guarantee you you've seen it. 72 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,720 Do you know what it might be if I put it to you that way? 73 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,840 I would assume it's that flying disc that is just sitting there in the 1950s style and 74 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:22,040 the way it does that has been clearly disproven as like on a fishing line. 75 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,680 I love where you're going with that. 76 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,760 I can see that you're clearly seeing it in your mind, but I'm going to put it more into 77 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,560 view for you now. 78 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,680 That being I said to you, I want to believe. 79 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,600 What would you picture in your mind? 80 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, it is a, it is very clearly the X files poster then. 81 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,160 That is a Billy Meyer photo. 82 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,560 I did not know that. 83 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,440 I neither did I when I was looking into this. 84 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Yeah, obviously, whether or not you are a UFO fan or anything like that, even if you're 85 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,480 a horror fan, science fiction fan, that's going to tie you into Billy Meyer right now 86 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,960 because I think most of the people who are listening to this episode now are going to 87 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,760 be able to clearly picture this in their mind. 88 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,960 That's Billy Meyer. 89 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:17,000 So you can see the direction this is going because that's an actual photo of Billy Myers, 90 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:23,640 which is why he seems to be such an epic person in the UFO community. 91 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,400 I had only listened to him. 92 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:31,480 I don't know why I'm doing this in this episode now, but I always remember him as obviously 93 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,200 he hasn't been into, I don't think he's English if he speaks any English as Quidd, listening 94 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,040 to people talking about Billy Meyer on Coast to Coast AM and stuff like that, and he is 95 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:48,080 just regarded as something larger than life as someone that has the evidence of extraterrestrials. 96 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,320 Yeah, in my mind, really, everything that I know from Billy Meyer is gleamed from him 97 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,960 from people who speak English who run into him at Youngfrago Park. 98 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,680 They're almost representing him, which would be the fact if they're on Coast to Coast 99 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,440 AM talking about him really, and like I started the first episode with... 100 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,680 Well, can I just add the beautiful thing about him not representing himself in English is 101 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,400 that when his ideas are presented, they don't need to be defended either because they're 102 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,320 not your ideas, they're Billy's. 103 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,880 So you don't have to defend them. 104 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,240 So it's actually a beautiful situation to be involved in. 105 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,440 I love that you're saying it that way too, is we're going to have a very different conversation 106 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,240 next week as well. 107 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,960 So yeah, as he puts it, he's one of the only people that have the scientific evidence of 108 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,800 all of this happening and evidence he has absolute shit-hands of. 109 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,200 And so a big resource I used for this episode is the Future of Mankind website, which is 110 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,400 a resource for information produced by Billy Meyer, and they put it all in a nice little 111 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,680 list of all the different evidences that Beam has acquired over all of these years. 112 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Not only do they speak for him and put together his information, they also translate it from 113 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,520 German. 114 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,680 I'm just going to go through kind of the list they put of all the evidence he has and 115 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,200 I have put with it where need be... 116 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Well, let's just stop. 117 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,200 I'm going to stop explaining myself. 118 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,160 The first is hundreds of thousands of photos taking of beam ships and their landing tracks. 119 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,680 They're things photographs of five different variations of spacecraft from 3.5 to 7 meter, 120 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,600 usually piloted by humans as well as photographic evidence of his travels through space and 121 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,600 time. 122 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,640 There are photographs of single or multiple objects day and night settings above and 123 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,400 below the horizon line. 124 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:43,280 There exist photo and super 8 footage, film analyzed by electron microscope, laser scanning 125 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:52,680 and computer functions, thermogram, edge identification, z scale contour, density and film grain inspection, 126 00:08:52,680 --> 00:09:01,120 processed by electron microscope, micro densitometer, infradometer, viticon tube, digitizer image 127 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,680 process computer equipment. 128 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:07,040 We're going to take a closer look at some of the photographs in a second, but it is 129 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:12,440 the assessment of an author that I looked into and he was looking into some of the photos 130 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:18,800 and he concluded that 100% of them are fabricated and therefore this is going to come to a major 131 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,040 shock to you guys at this point. 132 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 But he means them pokes. 133 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:29,480 Yeah, and I have to say that we hear a lot of the time on the other end, if one of these 134 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,840 is true, that's something that needs to be talked about. 135 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,600 I think the other situation here as well is also important. 136 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,040 If one of these is faked, that brings into question all of them for this guy. 137 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Even one of them. 138 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,920 And he has such a massive, massive, massive collection of this. 139 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,120 And because the question really becomes if you had to fake one, why are any of them taken 140 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,120 to be true then? 141 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Exactly. 142 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,920 If you've been able to get actual evidence, why would you fake even one? 143 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,760 So we're just going to keep going. 144 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,760 We're going to go on a fun adventure. 145 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Oh, that sounds fun. 146 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,800 I know it's going to be so fun. 147 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,600 I had fun putting this together. 148 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,600 The fact that none of the craft photographed exhibit any type of field propulsion distortion 149 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,960 adds to this conclusion, keeping in mind the physical properties of scale, proportion, 150 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,600 line of sight, field of view and focus. 151 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,280 It appears that some of the purported Billy Meyer photo appear to be small scale models, 152 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,400 approximately four inches in diameter, which have been suspended in front of the camera. 153 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Later, additional photo trickery was applied to remove any evidence of strings or wires 154 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,560 if the alleged encounters with these UFOs did actually take place. 155 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:45,160 Why is it then that none of the residents of the homes in the immediate vicinity photograph 156 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,160 them? 157 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,480 So I just put that with the evidence that the Billy Meyer representation put forth that 158 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,960 some of the evidence is photos. 159 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,200 So we're going to go on to the next evidence that Billy Meyer has from this agency that 160 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,760 put them together. 161 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,440 And he has different segments of eight millimeter motion picture film. 162 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,000 The films show variations in flight of ships, multiple craft appearances, instantaneous 163 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,800 spatial translations by spacecraft, versions of the film have been analyzed in frame by 164 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,920 frame format. 165 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,560 I have nothing to say about this. 166 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:23,000 We're going to move on to the next part of evidence he has, which is four metal, one 167 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,560 biological and nine mineral and crystal samples. 168 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:32,440 The metal analysis was described thoroughly in videotape format, beam ship the metal. 169 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 I don't even know what that fucking means. 170 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,200 It showed that the metal was made by a cold fusion process. 171 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,200 This technology is not yet known by terrestrial metallurgy. 172 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,280 I did find someone that did have something to say about the metal that Billy has. 173 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,920 And according to Moose Burger, who looked into this, the analysis was also conducted 174 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,840 by a metallurgist from the University of Arizona who quote, examined one of the metal fragments 175 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,400 and analyzed it as a simple cooking pot metal or cheap cast metal alloy used to produce 176 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,760 such things as tin soldiers and quote, that speaks for itself. 177 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:14,520 The next part of evidence that they put forth for Billy Meyer is a 20 minute sound recording 178 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,040 of a beam ship's whirring sound. 179 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,720 And the sound recordings of a non shielded beam ship was taking in the presence of several 180 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,280 witnesses who heard the deafening noise but weren't able to observe the ship that was 181 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,080 screamed from sight. 182 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,960 The loud whirring sound could have been heard for more than four kilometers as was confirmed 183 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,760 by persons who soon arrived at the location. 184 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,640 The scientific investigation showed that the sound is comprised of many tones and frequencies 185 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,160 with unusual anomalies and rapid changes in tone and frequencies. 186 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,920 I didn't, it says listen to it here and I didn't actually put it in. 187 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,120 We shall, we should listen to that. 188 00:12:51,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Let's see if I can find it. 189 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:30,240 The next piece of evidence is landing tracks. 190 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,840 Depending on the type of beam ship there could have been one or three landing tracks. 191 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,240 When three they were 120 degrees apart, circular, grass was depressed and counter clockwise 192 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,080 rotational direction visible for months after landing occurred. 193 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,140 Both existing and new grass were affected. 194 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:52,920 We saw that in Stanley Tiger, he took pictures of landing tracks from you. 195 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,920 He was good for him. 196 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,420 Yeah, I know good for him. 197 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:56,420 He was amazing. 198 00:13:56,420 --> 00:13:57,420 You were so hard. 199 00:13:57,420 --> 00:14:00,040 Stanley Tiger was a hard worker if nothing else. 200 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,040 He was. 201 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Actually, he reminds me a lot of Billy Meyer. 202 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Or the other way around. 203 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,040 That's what we found out. 204 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,160 He was inspired. 205 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Last point to their evidence is witnesses. 206 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,120 This is my favorite point of evidence. 207 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,720 It actually is the most important part of evidence I found. 208 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:26,480 In addition to Billy quotes Meyer, there are more than 70 people who have witnessed the 209 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:33,800 evidence regarding the Pleiadians, Les Pledgeirons and their beam ships or Billy himself witnessed 210 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200 it, which is proof enough that this is all happening. 211 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,160 So not only did they bless us with that list of all the evidence that he has, they also 212 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:50,560 put up why beams photos differ from any other UFO case or photo that you see of UFOs. 213 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 This is coming straight from his organization's website. 214 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:59,040 I know that hasn't come up yet, but just let that wash over you and we'll pick that thought 215 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,200 back up on the next episode. 216 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,200 So here we go. 217 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Billy Edward Albert Meyer's photos differ from all other known UFO cases by their outstanding 218 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,080 picture quality. 219 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:15,400 They're, I'm gotta say, I'm surprised these are in bullet point and they're not numbered. 220 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Their large number, hundreds of them, hundreds. 221 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Daylight and nighttime photography, diversity of positions, angles, perspective techniques, 222 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,880 etc. 223 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Most images are part of sequences of photographs, which are timely. 224 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Images with several UFOs in a single photo. 225 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,000 Eight millimeter film footage recorded in parallel to the photos. 226 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Additional recordings and photographic documentation, example laser fire traces. 227 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:53,080 All photography and motion video footage was taken before the possibility of computer manipulation 228 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,480 was developed. 229 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:01,840 Most captured using standard popular cameras, commercially available on Olympus 35, ECR, 230 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,320 and Malcolm FTL. 231 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Photography camera data, however, there are several other cameras that have been used. 232 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Documented and verifiable location dates and times. 233 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Photos of the film negatives themselves. 234 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Decades of all sorts of different investigations by individuals and groups all over the world. 235 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Plenty of honest answers given about every possible aspect of it. 236 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Are you convinced? 237 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Oh, fully. 238 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Fully. 239 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,840 At this point, right? 240 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Yeah. 241 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,840 You read that and you're like, fuck, that gotta be some good. 242 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Good photos. 243 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Oh yeah. 244 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,280 I don't know anything about photographs, so yeah. 245 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,280 Exactly. 246 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,400 It sounds legit. 247 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:46,200 So the next thing we're going to take a look at, it's just from this website that I use. 248 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:52,200 I'm going to share my screen with you and I'm just going to get your take of some photographs. 249 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:58,440 I'm going to share my screen and just let some of these photos wash over you and just 250 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,920 give me your impressions. 251 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Okay. 252 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,720 This is one I have seen before. 253 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,120 I'm actually fairly certain I've seen them staging this photo. 254 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:07,120 Really? 255 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:11,480 So the thing I have to set up about this here, and I'm going to post some of these if I get 256 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,040 on the social media, we'll see. 257 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,040 I will at least post the link of this website up into the episode notes if you want to see 258 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,440 the exact photos that we're looking at. 259 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:28,560 You have to think these are coming from a very special time in time and space, which 260 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:34,040 is the time before AI, the time before Photoshop or anything. 261 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Oh yeah, to be able to fake photos, you have to manually be able to do something here. 262 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Yeah. 263 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,560 So this one, we're looking at some, I mean, it's beautiful Switzerland landscape is where 264 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,560 he's taking these photos and there's just a saucer just suspended there in midair. 265 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,960 And as we've kind of heard so far, it's straight. 266 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 You can't see any propulsion of any sort. 267 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,160 It's not twisting one way or the other. 268 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,760 It's just there as if suspended. 269 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Yeah, none of them seem like they're part of the photo, but also all of the photos appear 270 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,880 to be of landscapes where a UFO is interjected. 271 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,880 Yeah. 272 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,520 And I guess the question really is, is why is he taking photos of these? 273 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Yeah. 274 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Just because it seems weird to be doing this if I don't know that it's came up. 275 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,720 So basically, if it hasn't come up, it's going to come up in this episode. 276 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:31,200 Basically he's had permission from the Pledgeirons to take photos of these UFOs for him to pass 277 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,000 on because he's a prophet to prove the existence of extraterrestrials. 278 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Okay. 279 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,560 But basically you're going to hear this comment from people who are saying like, how did you 280 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,240 get these photos of UFOs? 281 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,600 Because in certain situations, it's just kind of weird for you to be taking photos. 282 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,400 The question is, why did you have your camera ready for this? 283 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:57,160 And he's a guy who lives in Switzerland and is used to these landscapes yet has just landscape 284 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,320 photos with UFOs in them. 285 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,040 That's one of the points against him, which I'm going to get into. 286 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,560 So I'm going to leave you on that frame. 287 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,720 We're going to look at more photos and I'm just going to keep reading and scroll through 288 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,360 them as we go. 289 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:13,920 So Beams photos, or as I prefer, BM through this episode, photographs and films allegedly 290 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,800 show not only alien spacecraft floating around various places, but also his time in space 291 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,800 travel. 292 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,600 And Taylor's just looking at the UFO photo that I stopped on and he apparently had the 293 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,200 exclusive rights to be photographing them. 294 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,200 The only person in the world with permission for the proof of his prophetism, according 295 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,520 to Meyer, the Pledgeirian gave him permission to photograph and film their beam chips so 296 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,560 that he could produce evidence of their extraterrestrial visitations. 297 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,120 We saw that on the last episode when he's in the spacecraft with them and they're saying, 298 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,120 take these photos. 299 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,120 I'm going to get in number. 300 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,160 Take these photos as well. 301 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,680 With the camera they stole from some earthling. 302 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,760 We didn't really touch on the photos of the UFOs in the previous episode, but UFOs, there 303 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,880 are plenty. 304 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,000 And he calls the UFOs beam ship. 305 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,040 I don't have any clue why, but I'm assuming it has to do with translation, either that 306 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,680 or the beam name that he goes by, which I'm assuming could also be that because we have 307 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,640 seen in all these episodes that we did that it takes a certain kind of narcissist that 308 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,200 you're sharing something like this with the UFO community. 309 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,640 And the beam ships are specific to the Pledgeirian. 310 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:35,160 It's probably a brand name of the UFO, like a corolla or something or a Toyota Subaru. 311 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 You got the beam ship. 312 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,800 And as you may or may not have put together by now, some of Meyer's photos are claimed 313 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,620 by him to show prehistoric earth scenes. 314 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:49,120 I may have not put that together by now because I just put it right here. 315 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:54,760 And extraterrestrials and celestial objects from an alleged non-earthly vantage point. 316 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,360 Meyer's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most 317 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,920 ufologists who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes. 318 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,280 I'm going to read you this next photograph and then I'm going to scroll down, Taylor. 319 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:13,080 In interviews with author Gary Kinder, Meyer admitted to using models to recreate scenes 320 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,960 after his wife showed photos of an incomplete model he thought he had destroyed by burning. 321 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,800 During a 2017 art exhibit about conspiracies, many of Meyer's photographs were shown. 322 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Photography curator Gordon MacDonald commented on examinations from the 1970s that the photos 323 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:37,080 weren't doctored, saying, just because photographs are real, i.e. real images made with a real 324 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,440 camera doesn't mean they are of what a person says they are. 325 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:47,240 So I'm going to immediately, if you see this one, this UFO looks oddly in a tree and we 326 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,240 scroll down. 327 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Well, Chelsea, not only that, yes, it looks like it has a hole to put a string through 328 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,920 in it. 329 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,080 Which is what exactly I just scrolled down into, which is an enlargement, and you see 330 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,880 the enlargement of an eye screw. 331 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:09,720 This one is particularly strange and seems to be being held up by a tree, and it is, 332 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,600 what are the feelings you get of this? 333 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,280 I just want to get your impressions. 334 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,360 It feels like it was Christmas ornaments gone wrong, and that they all brought themselves 335 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:23,200 together in one location on the tree and then floated away on trays. 336 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,840 It almost seems like it's being held up by that tree almost, right? 337 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,200 This one, it almost seems like it wasn't one that was meant to get out. 338 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,880 Again, very nice, like Swiss countryside in the background. 339 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,080 It's just nice. 340 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:45,400 This is very clearly something that has been put rigged up by Billy Meyer that is laughable 341 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,680 to think that he would even think that that would path of a UFO. 342 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,240 I'm just going to scroll through the rest. 343 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,280 So when we say this is going to come up in what I'm going to talk about next, this is 344 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,880 just three different kinds of UFOs just kind of suspended in midair. 345 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,400 Again, another one, it's not propelling one way or the other, it's just kind of suspended 346 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,400 there in midair. 347 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,400 Oh, there it is, yeah. 348 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Another one just suspended there in midair. 349 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,840 Yeah, he's just taking photos of the landscape and there happens to be UFOs there. 350 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,960 It's just kind of weird. 351 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:23,120 So it looks like from what people have put together that he is just building little models 352 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:28,040 and suspending them with fishing wire or something like that in front of the camera. 353 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,400 Again, CGI is not a thing at this time, so he's having to physically build models and 354 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,400 make it. 355 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,400 And it shows. 356 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,400 It absolutely shows. 357 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,920 And while at the time it's not something people are used to seeing, it's still obviously 358 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,960 a hoax as far as what we're looking at. 359 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Not only that, it's based on what people are seeing. 360 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,160 So they're building these models off of that in my mind. 361 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,160 Absolutely. 362 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,760 There's nothing else to base it on. 363 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,320 Is that absolutely looks like just like the categorical flying saucer? 364 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Like that's just what it looks like. 365 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,360 Oh yeah, not even. 366 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:06,680 It's even just like finding shit that you can find in his house probably. 367 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:13,200 In 1997, Myers ex-wife Callio told interviewers that his photos were spaceship models. 368 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,440 He crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet, tax and other household objects and 369 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,200 that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious. 370 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,760 She's met with a little bit of skepticism because she was so involved with saying that 371 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,760 his story was true for a long time and she switched on him. 372 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:38,000 She also said that the photos of the purported extraterrestrial woman Asket and Nera were 373 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,880 really photos of Michelle Delafav and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe 374 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,880 the gold diggers. 375 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,600 Here you're going to see the photo, Taylor. 376 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,000 It was later confirmed that the women in the photographs were members of the gold diggers 377 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,640 performing on the Dean Martin show. 378 00:24:53,640 --> 00:25:00,200 According to a letter posted on the FIGU website by Myers in May 1998, the extraterrestrial 379 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,920 PTA informed Myers that the photographs of Asket and Nera were actually of their American 380 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,280 doubles. 381 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Myers went on to explain that the men in black had intercepted his film and lookalikes for 382 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,280 Asket and Nera took pictures of them and substituted these false images for the originals of the 383 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,280 Asket and Nera photos. 384 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,760 He claims that the men in black performed the same trickery with most of his early photos. 385 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,520 But if you look at this, like I can't even once we start getting into this, this shit 386 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:39,200 is so clearly just bad photography of very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, 387 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,880 of things that are actually going on. 388 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,880 Yeah. 389 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,400 Of things that are going on that he's trying to say, it's just bad photography. 390 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680 This is clearly the same people. 391 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,680 It really is. 392 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Yeah. 393 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560 There's no question that those are the same people. 394 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Yeah. 395 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,280 No, seriously, from looking at it for two seconds, there's no question those were the 396 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,880 exact same photos. 397 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,120 It just needed to be put. 398 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:05,480 I mean, if you see that other one, you're going to say, okay, yeah, they maybe look 399 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,280 like extraterrestrials, maybe not because they're doing, they're, they look human and 400 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,640 there's nothing extraterrestrial about their facial features, anything other than it's 401 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,640 overexposed. 402 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,840 We're going to see some header. 403 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,800 I don't know how this man has got so far in his life yet. 404 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,120 Here we are talking about him. 405 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:30,760 Meyer has been widely characterized as a fraud by skeptics and ufologists who suggest that 406 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,120 he used models to hoax photo claims to show alien spacecraft. 407 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:42,280 Meyer's prophecies repeatedly blame Jews, who he refers to as gypsies for future atrocities. 408 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Yeah, fair enough. 409 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,280 That's what they do. 410 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Yep. 411 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,280 That is what they do. 412 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,600 That's what most of them do. 413 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600 I'm sorry, fair enough is not the right way to say that. 414 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Yeah, no, yeah. 415 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,320 That's what we've seen, yes, in people of this. 416 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Some of Meyer's claims involve not yet discovered facts about their solar system, including 417 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:09,160 a description of Almothia, the closest moon to Jupiter, which he claimed was 200 kilometers 418 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,320 in length. 419 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:16,280 While unfortunately incorrect, a 1979 article in the New York Times also came to the same 420 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,800 wrong conclusion about Almothia. 421 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:24,080 Meyer also asserted that another Jupiter moon known as low had once been covered with water, 422 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480 which was also later proven to be incorrect. 423 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,160 Now there has been claims he has made that have been correct, but I mean, it's the best 424 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,160 shit to the wind. 425 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,160 I.O. 426 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,160 I.O. 427 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,160 Not low. 428 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,160 Oh, I.O. 429 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Okay. 430 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,160 Yeah, it's a deceptive title for it. 431 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,160 I learned something new. 432 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,160 Yeah. 433 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,200 This is something we're seeing, and I'll give you my opinions at the end of this, but we're 434 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,440 seeing are not aging well because he's using a camera being like, well, if I do it this 435 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,280 way, nobody's ever going to know because the technology's not that great. 436 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,480 And that wasn't his excuse was the technology's not that great. 437 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,960 It just just it just was that it just wasn't great. 438 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,320 So I could see how some people would be like, wow, this is real stuff. 439 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:12,440 He was using very simple ways of making it look like he was doing things. 440 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,320 Billy Meyer's credibility fell further upon the discovery that thousands of photos he'd 441 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,120 taken in the 1970s proved to be fabrications. 442 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:26,760 These photos feature purported spacecraft referred to as beam ships flying over the countryside. 443 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,920 Over the years, the validity of these pictures has been dismissed for a myriad of reasons, 444 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,960 including that the spacecraft was perfectly focused and centered within the frame. 445 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,720 Upon close inspection, numerous photos were also found to contain household items passing 446 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,120 for pieces of ships such as ice screws that suspended the models in the air or even cups, 447 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,760 bowls, and paper plates that made up the bodies of the crafts. 448 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,800 After closely examining literally thousands of UFO photos originating from the Wendell 449 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Stevens Collection, 14 significant criteria photos became abundantly clear, which can 450 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,160 be used to gauge the authenticity of a particular image. 451 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Any purported UFO photo, which contains three or more of the photos listed below should 452 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,120 immediately raise a red flag and indicate a strong possibility that the photo was a 453 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,120 hoax. 454 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,120 1. 455 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Multiple grouped UFOs photographed in the same shot. 456 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960 2. 457 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400 UFO never photographed on the ground. 458 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,400 3. 459 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Object too large or disproportionate, which is use of forced or false perspective technique. 460 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,400 4. 461 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Object perfectly centered in the frame. 462 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,720 5. 463 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Object positioned perfectly about the vertical axis. 464 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,080 6. 465 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,720 Object photographed too clear. 466 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,720 7. 467 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Objects surrounded by trees or various structures to obscure suspension rig. 468 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,720 8. 469 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,320 Evidence of fabrication using household items, cups, balls, paper plates, ornaments, lids. 470 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,320 9. 471 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600 Identical background used to photograph different craft. 472 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,760 10. 473 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Evidence of eye screws used to hang models from suspension rig. 474 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,520 11. 475 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160 Multiple craft photographed on the same date. 476 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,160 12. 477 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,400 Lack of field propulsion distortion. 478 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,400 13. 479 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Lack of photographs of identical craft from a totally separate source. 480 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,600 14. 481 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Consistent encounters of a craft in rural or unpopulated areas. 482 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,720 As we talked about in 1975, Meyer alleged he made two journeys through space and time 483 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,720 with his plegering contactors. 484 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:34,600 During his alleged journey he witnessed the historic Apollo Soyuz coupling on July 17th. 485 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,880 He visited moons and planets in our solar system and in other far away galaxies he even 486 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,760 visited another parallel universe called the Dahl universe. 487 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640 That's where one of them would have been from. 488 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,040 I can't remember the name. 489 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:54,680 His second space journey described in contact report 39 was started December 3rd 1975 and 490 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,920 lasted two days. 491 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,480 He was taken through a dimensional gate opened at the Bermuda Triangle that allowed access 492 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,800 into three different dimensions and time planes. 493 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:11,760 According to the contact notes, Meyer alleged he made more than 1380 pictures from his two 494 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,400 journeys out of which he claims that many hundreds have either been lost, stolen, unusable 495 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,720 due to over exposure or distortions or falsified. 496 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,400 We're going to take a look at his space trip. 497 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Are you ready? 498 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680 No, I'll never be ready for this apparently. 499 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,800 I'm ready for this. 500 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Where is it? 501 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,800 Right here. 502 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080 Okay, so we're going to look at the photos that Billy Meyer took. 503 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,560 So I'm going to read you this first. 504 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,520 It has all the fucking details here. 505 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Date July 17 1975. 506 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,720 I'm not stated. 507 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Location inside Sam Jass' spacecraft on the way to the planet Venus. 508 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,640 Meyer photo number not listed in the... 509 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 510 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 511 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 512 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 513 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 514 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 515 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 516 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 517 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 518 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 519 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Ring-a-la-la-la. 520 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600 And now I'm going to show you the photo I'm going to move down. 521 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,600 You know what? 522 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,600 I already read this to you. 523 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120 So basically, he's taken a photograph of Venus. 524 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,520 Here you're going to see Billy Meyer's photo if you can see where my mouth says. 525 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,760 And you're going to see right next to it are Mariner 10's ultraviolet filtered images 526 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,080 of Venus from its February 1974 flyby right next to it there. 527 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,900 So he took this right directly from a book and took a photo of it. 528 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:29,040 Yeah, it really looks like that. 529 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,040 It really looks like that. 530 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:36,660 Weird he couldn't get a closer photo of Venus having flown to it. No, it's it's a very strange thing 531 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:43,680 I'm just gonna keep going through. I mean those just look like whatever so here's another this is Myers right here 532 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,840 Yeah, and weirdly yeah, there's even the real photo with the satellites that he has 533 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Broke out the photo directly from NASA that is next to it that is literally the exact photo 534 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:04,160 He just took a and it has to be because he cropped out only part of the satellite that is included in this NASA photo 535 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,640 They're dead so somebody actually went through all these photos and found the and I can't really call it 536 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Inspiration of what do you think how why did he include so many satellites in these photos that he took? 537 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,200 You know, I'm gonna say this one that we're looking at right now. That's not even a fucking photo. That's a drawing 538 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:29,040 Yeah, the Viking opener spacecraft releases the aeroshell cloud Ladner near the high point of its orbit around Mars 539 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,080 It's a drawing here. We go and this is my favorite one. This is Billy Meyer and Patat 540 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,560 Okay, and so we're gonna scroll down right here. Here we go. This is from an episode of 541 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,880 mouse on the moon from 542 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:51,760 1963 so he just took a picture of a TV with this they found the photo that matches with the photo 543 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,520 He took it looks somewhat similar. Yeah, it's a diss somewhat. Yeah, might be that pretty sure it is 544 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Here's another one they matched up prehistoric Earth with two moons 545 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,640 I can I'm gonna link this web up in the show notes as well 546 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:12,260 It clearly is debunking a lot of these photos and showing the inspiration from them 547 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:18,860 This Myers image of a supposed beam ship monitor devices eerily similar to a terrestrial 548 00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:26,620 Oscilloscope this is a long write-up going into it. I'm just looking at the photos on this one 549 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:31,640 It actually debunks and talks about all of it. I'm doing this episode 550 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,540 So that's the end of us looking at it. That's enough for you 551 00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:38,220 You can read through it if you want they'll be on the episode note next one up 552 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:43,860 This is my favorite one Billy Myers as you know traveled back through time, right? 553 00:34:43,860 --> 00:34:49,500 I mean he had to because we've said that several times now. Yeah, I'm gonna share my screen again 554 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:54,580 Let me know when you're up. Yeah, got it. Well, no, we saw a pterodactyl 555 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:58,280 I know and I 556 00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:01,660 Mean I never saw a pterodactyl. He's one up on me 557 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:08,340 I know so what we're looking at is a photo Billy took of a pterodactyl on one of his time travel adventures and 558 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:13,940 I'm just gonna read for you right now some correspondence that comes with this photograph 559 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:20,340 Dear Billy enclosed is my quick translation of a letter to the editor by Ray Rimmel of England 560 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:25,380 Which he wrote to the magazine 14 times on account of your alleged dinosaur photos 561 00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:29,980 Which the magazine had apparently printed an issue 9157 here's what the man wrote 562 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:36,100 I was fascinated by Billy Myers dinosaur photograph actually. It's a parodon a sort of 563 00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:40,380 Tyrosaur so here we are looking at it the image did look very familiar 564 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:46,680 It bears a spooky similarity to a famous painting by the acclaimed Czech paleo artist 565 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:48,060 stink 566 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:52,860 Burian and has appeared in many books since the early 1960s 567 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:55,460 I too have managed to photograph a Tyrosaur 568 00:35:55,460 --> 00:36:01,260 But did take the trouble to make a model rather than rely on a piece of artwork does this mean that mr 569 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:05,660 Meyer didn't travel to the Mesozoic after all I think we should be 570 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:12,540 Wait, I also I did that means that he's seen a Tyrosaur or a pterodon in the modern world 571 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:18,860 Yeah, well, we know that there's pterodactyl sightings. Oh all the time all the time 572 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:21,260 That's an episode in the future. No, we have not 573 00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:27,820 That's what I thought we didn't do it. We need to do it because there's pterodactyl sightings all the time all the time 574 00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,660 Like there goes one now. Yeah, there goes two in fact 575 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,540 One just happened to be in present and one happened to be jerk 576 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:43,120 So the enclosed illustration with text was sent over to us by Norman to 577 00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:50,820 In this who lives in Boca Raton, Florida who was already discovered several things in some magazines or the internet and is always helpful to you 578 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:55,160 But this time even he thinks that this accusation makes him sad 579 00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,260 Even though he still believes in your genuine context 580 00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:03,500 But it is this sort of thing that turns people against Billy as far as I know 581 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:10,340 He has also sent you these color images, but may not this letter to the editor Shalom and best regards 582 00:37:10,340 --> 00:37:14,380 I love how there's a heart here H&B and here we go. Are you ready? Yeah? 583 00:37:14,380 --> 00:37:18,540 I scroll down you're gonna be hard-breath to find a similarity. Yeah 584 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:25,420 I mean, there's there's nothing similar between these photos other than I think literally everything about 585 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:33,740 Maybe the background has been blurred too much to get any detail. It's an overexposed photo. Yeah, it's clearly that exact 586 00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:42,020 Photo and the funny thing is you know it has to be overexposed because Myers couldn't have seen a creature who had its throat entirely 587 00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:47,660 Missing I'm not sure what's going on in that painting, but it's clearly missing in Myers's photo 588 00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:51,540 Yeah, right around the spot where the white spot is in Birian's photo 589 00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:57,740 So I just want to read you Billy's response to this because I just think that it so wonderfully 590 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:04,420 Encapsulates how he deals with anybody coming at him calling it fake 591 00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:07,900 So Billy's response Shalom Heidi and Bob 592 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:14,380 I had received with thanks your letter dated January 25th. The pictures were also included of course indeed 593 00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:20,100 I have already received this one probably even from the man whom you mentioned to my knowledge 594 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,500 We have not responded to him. Perhaps we should still do this 595 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:31,140 However, it may also be that it was good as such and that perhaps you can enlighten the man the circumstances are as follows 596 00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:36,660 For my part I can no longer recall exactly how many pictures I made on my great journey 597 00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:41,140 But there were several hundred today all of these pictures are no longer available 598 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:48,500 Also, no slides and no negatives or films because all the material was taken away from me and destroyed by Quetzal 599 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:56,660 The reason for this was that he was furious because countless of these pictures and slides as well as films were falsified in order to 600 00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:03,180 Discriminate against me the counterfeits were distributed in many places and even exchanged with my own material 601 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:06,180 Whereby the genuine shots. Yeah, like in his own book 602 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:13,860 Yeah, how could they which were so numerous that replacements of the slides were no longer noticeable to me especially since I 603 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:20,340 Now at that time some jassy told me that some 604 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:26,900 Mecanation like this took place and that therefore I should handle the material more carefully 605 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:33,100 Which Quetzal also suggested to me who even forbade me from continuing to use the pictures and slides 606 00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:40,420 Then one day he told me that a large part of my photographs were still being maliciously tampered with and had been distributed 607 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:48,860 And that also group members had come into possession of falsified photos and slides because I have given them a son without knowing that these were already fakes 608 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:54,980 Etc. Consequently Guido has also received such pictures and slides for me 609 00:39:54,980 --> 00:40:02,100 Well one day Quetzal took all the material and destroyed it through which greater harms should probably be avoided 610 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:08,540 Nevertheless many falsified pictures and slides are still in circulation all over the world and indeed so 611 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:12,980 Numerously as Quetzal said that not all of these can be investigated 612 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:18,140 So everything is simply left as is which is also true of photos and slides of the ships 613 00:40:18,260 --> 00:40:20,500 Thus in accordance with these facts 614 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:26,660 It is very well possible that in concerns of forgery with the right image which is foisted on me 615 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:34,060 He had already been maliciously foisted on me by a willful exchange however the breast portion of the flying dinosaur 616 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:41,860 As well as the underside of the beak appears suspicious to me because these are not consistent with the picture of the artist Zendinek 617 00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:43,940 Brian no way Chelsea 618 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:48,100 I just want to make sure that he is both saying at this point 619 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:54,860 Yeah, clearly somebody else fraud at these but also this one's not fraud because 620 00:40:54,860 --> 00:41:01,820 Because it's different from the photo, but it's clearly still the photo just under yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it right, okay? 621 00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:09,780 Okay, it gets better and honestly it gets better anyhow as to whether this is fake or not on the one hand 622 00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:13,580 There are at least two striking differences on the other hand 623 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:21,380 I cannot judge whether the image committed to me is genuine or not because it had already been too long that I can still remember all 624 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:29,580 Picture slides and films especially because many memories have been erased from my memory and haven't been reclaimed after my serious health 625 00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:36,860 Collapse in November of 1982 when I suffered a severe head trauma and lost large parts of my memory capacity now 626 00:41:36,860 --> 00:41:40,180 Of course, I won't simply let the matter rely on itself 627 00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:44,620 But we'll ask put a at the next opportunity who can surely give me information 628 00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:49,020 But when will come I do not know but I will fax you his answer 629 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:52,660 Promptly as soon as he has appeared and has given me a suitable explanation 630 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:59,860 Unfortunately up to now the events surrounding the fakes and concerning the photo slides and films destroyed by Quetzal 631 00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:06,500 Haven't been mentioned much in the contact reports because everything took place outside of the public contact conversations 632 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:12,620 But I'm sure that pitab will answer the question at least in the framework that he knows until then all the 11 all the best 633 00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:19,420 Oh six thirty nineteen ninety seven three p.m. Billy so petah does respond and his response is 634 00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:23,240 Translator note the following response was giving February 3rd 635 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:25,820 1998 which is 636 00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:29,620 six seven eight months later during the 637 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:35,540 260th contact petah says your letter replies absolutely correct 638 00:42:35,540 --> 00:42:40,540 But it would still be a value to deliver from my side the following explanation 639 00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:45,740 We and other people in your immediate and wider vicinity in accordance with our own and also your 640 00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:52,060 Clarifications are well aware that many of your photos relating to our aircraft and others are connected to us 641 00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:59,740 We're maliciously falsified or were even imitated from the ground up and became falsified in this manner in this regard 642 00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:05,500 Not only was the photographer extremely busy whom you know by the name of schmid of the Rhine Valley 643 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:12,740 What but also several other people at home in front who are jealous and who are still to this very day who the fuck is 644 00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:15,060 Schmid of the Rhine Valley 645 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:21,660 I feel like it's something in the lower that we should just know at this point, but we don't okay 646 00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:25,340 I mean if we're going through all the contact reports up until the 647 00:43:26,060 --> 00:43:28,900 260th one among the forgeries and falsifications 648 00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:36,380 weren't just the photos that showed our aircraft but also those images that you made on your great journey this is especially true for the 649 00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:39,260 dinosaur images as well as the Apollo 650 00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:44,180 What it was at Soyuz was something other than that images 651 00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:50,980 Oh, but also various other images belong with these overall as we've determined through the detailed investigations 652 00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:52,980 You had made 653 00:43:52,980 --> 00:44:00,780 376 photos which is actually a different number than I said above with your Olympus ECR 35 millimeter camera as well as 654 00:44:00,940 --> 00:44:08,420 34 films with your movie camera that you could use with just one hand of the photos several hundreds were stolen from you 655 00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:15,500 I love how this guy's recounting it for you exactly and more over most importantly that I'm sure he's the one who's actually 656 00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:20,420 Relaying it too because I'm pretty sure we don't hear from Pataw directly 657 00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:24,940 I'm pretty sure that is the case as well at least which we could clarify 658 00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:33,460 230 of these were falsified there was also falsifying through the manipulation of several films and to be sure in the way that our 659 00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:39,460 spacecraft were suddenly represented as though these have been suspended from thin strings or wires, etc 660 00:44:39,460 --> 00:44:42,580 And so the impression was made that these were models 661 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:46,700 Concerning the dinosaur images that were addressed in the letter to you 662 00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:53,740 It seems to me as you mentioned that some isn't right or as I see the two images aren't exactly alike 663 00:44:53,740 --> 00:45:01,140 It may be that is forgery that has been foisted upon you like also so many other forgeries as I already explained 664 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:04,820 But now we can no longer investigate what is actually the case 665 00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:13,540 Unfortunately because as you know Quetzal took all the originals and copies and slides and negatives, etc from your workroom and eliminated them 666 00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:17,380 So today we can no longer investigate the concerns in this respect 667 00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:23,500 Well, it is so unfortunate that Quetzal turns out to be a dick and just take all these photos so we don't have them 668 00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:29,940 Yeah, I mean whatever your coincidence easily. I mean if we had those and Quetzal wasn't such a dick 669 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,540 We would have the answer at these are all bullshit lies 670 00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:40,660 wasted on Billy but Billy does respond to Pataw and Billy says Quetzal acted perhaps 671 00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:48,380 somewhat hastily, huh? Yes, that's the words I would use for Quetzal. Yeah, perhaps Quetzal is a dick 672 00:45:48,380 --> 00:45:53,220 I don't think that was the case but I says where as it proved itself 673 00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:55,380 It really was necessary 674 00:45:55,500 --> 00:46:03,020 We also should have done the same thing with various images of our aircraft a lot of harm would have been avoided through this 675 00:46:03,020 --> 00:46:09,180 Especially if we secured the deceitful forgeries and falsifications produced by the FOMO and film 676 00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:17,460 Counterfeits but in this connection we had to comply with our directives as this was also recommended to us by the High Council 677 00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:24,500 We could and were allowed to intervene directly only in those concerns that stood in a direct relationship with us 678 00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:31,900 And this was just your personal filming of photo material. I quite enjoyed that that was my favorite one that I stumbled upon 679 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:38,620 It was clearly that photo that was taken a picture of there are no if ands and buts 680 00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:42,420 There is no there are definitely differences. It is that photo 681 00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:49,620 I really love and this is one of those things that I always see hilariously done in court cases where somebody 682 00:46:49,940 --> 00:46:57,180 Admitly denies any knowledge on anything and then gives but if I did and gives knowledge on that topic 683 00:46:57,180 --> 00:47:03,700 I'm like, this is the stupidest thing you could ever fucking do because you're clearly saying that whatever you said before is a lie 684 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:06,500 Because you wanted to fend what also you were just 685 00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:13,860 Yeah, no, and that's clearly what happened here is like, oh, yeah, no this other aliens told the photo 686 00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:19,140 But also this one doesn't look that far off of what is not like that's not the same photo 687 00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:21,140 So it may be 688 00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:24,940 Not write a book that was he wrote a book if I did it. Yes 689 00:47:29,140 --> 00:47:36,220 Balls you Jason I was in fact very torn on which one to go with when I was describing this topic 690 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:42,460 Do you but you know, oh J just died so you know in in commemoration of the dead we I chose to go together talking 691 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:49,100 Yeah, that's okay. I got it. Okay, so that's a lot to take in from one episode which 692 00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:56,660 It's spilling into three episodes. You gotta you gotta the only I think nobody's gonna touch David will cock on 693 00:47:58,460 --> 00:48:04,620 But this guy's coming up there and really the question really also becomes with David will cock is do you accept him as a 694 00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:07,300 Gricchese and now become a seven topic episode 695 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,780 We have to follow up on him actually cuz he's we actually 696 00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:21,260 Yeah, I mean bill more he had a three episode I think so it's only fair that Billy Meyer who nobody knows as much about well 697 00:48:21,260 --> 00:48:23,260 Nobody knew anything 698 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:26,780 Anyhow, I'm gonna end this episode off with a quote 699 00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:29,500 I stumbled upon randomly on a web page 700 00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:35,140 devoted to BM and I thought that I would leave you with this food for thought 701 00:48:35,140 --> 00:48:43,260 This is called quote a word about Billy by quote and quote by Eva Eury and it goes like this much has been written about 702 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:50,860 Edward Albert Meyer who is called Billy and much of it has been far from being flattering or objective 703 00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:52,860 It seems that every 704 00:48:52,860 --> 00:49:00,340 It seems that every human has his own subjective concept of what or rather who Billy Meyer is 705 00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:07,780 The fewest know him personally and when they do know him not good enough to form an unbiased opinion about him 706 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:14,180 Most people connect him with UFOs. What is most likely since his UFO photos are known all over the world 707 00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:20,340 However, this UFO thing is pushed into the background more and more and his main occupation comes forth ever 708 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:27,460 Distinctly he is a pen man a writer who has already written thousands of pages indeed not just novels 709 00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:35,540 Although he has written some but writings whose content stimulates thinking and gives each person the initiative to ask ever more questions 710 00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:41,260 And through this to grasp evermore answers. He is the author of umpteen books 711 00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:45,340 I love that that's the scale in which she measures the amount of books 712 00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:50,460 He has written that are written in a wonderful and understandable language 713 00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:58,060 That's always how you want language be described. That's how I want my books to be known as this podcast even 714 00:49:58,060 --> 00:50:00,060 I would love for it to be known as that 715 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:11,340 We strive we strive we really try we do our best his ink flow in in brackets 716 00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:19,060 Sorry, those are not damn it. I just let you guys down and saying in understandable language his bracket book and bracket lines 717 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:22,900 Lead into worlds of which we have not dreamed of yet 718 00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:30,300 It gives nourishment to our dreams and lets our fantasy turn heads over heels by touching strings within ourselves and letting them 719 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:38,180 Vibrates something possibly would have never discovered Billy is the author of many readable and interesting books 720 00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:45,740 I do most people not realize this you define Billy through his UFO photos only whether these are genuine or not 721 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:53,500 Simply a waste of time. They do not realize or know that Billy's task and main occupation is to write and teach 722 00:50:53,500 --> 00:51:01,540 He does this so masterly and with a fluency that every sentence fits and is correct in its meaning and all of this is 723 00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:10,340 Achieved in one go without additional correcting of sentences or content that will not be imitated too easily by the so-called 724 00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:18,660 Authors who polish and potter around their books for years until ultimately they publish it all the while Billy as a rule 725 00:51:18,820 --> 00:51:24,180 writes a book in a few weeks or in two or three months and that is with a worthy 726 00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:30,300 Content Billy has worked in a great variety of activities in many different professions in order to ultimately 727 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:38,340 Being literally left sitting with the most difficult and ambitious work to the luck of all people who read and study his books 728 00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:45,540 Who are grateful that all those tremendously big treasures have been written down by him and are recorded in writing Eva 729 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:52,860 Be a re and with that I'm gonna get your thoughts, but I thought what is Billy Myers? 730 00:51:53,780 --> 00:51:58,300 net worth and it's between 1 to 5 million dollars 731 00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:03,940 Okay, just far more than I thought it would be considering he's selling eggs 732 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:10,820 Fair enough. He sold books to just around the same page like a lot. We did just cover that he does 733 00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:17,380 Okay, and that in fact seems about like the average boomer slash silent generations net worth 734 00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:18,460 Okay, okay 735 00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:21,420 I think it behind that now this is the end of the episode 736 00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:24,740 So I just want to get your thoughts on where we're at right now 737 00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:33,340 Well, he sounds readable from what has been described. I love that last it sounds like nobody is telling us anything about the aliens other 738 00:52:33,340 --> 00:52:39,780 Than Billy. No, but he's going on so many adventures with these people who are also giving their own statements 739 00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:46,300 So the fact that he's called himself a prophet. I'm very curious when this turns into a cult and 740 00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:50,340 How many people get involved with it is kind of what I'm waiting for 741 00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:56,500 That's a very good question. So I'm not gonna give anything away for next week 742 00:52:56,860 --> 00:53:03,180 But you may your answers that you may be looking for and I'm gonna tell you what my takeaways are at this point 743 00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:06,980 I do know where this goes, but I haven't written the next episode yet 744 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:12,860 So there are still things that are a mystery to me so I can say this without bias this to me 745 00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:19,260 seems like either a board person or a mentally ill person that 746 00:53:19,260 --> 00:53:30,340 Has been entertaining this for a very very long time and has not stopped since he was a young child when he met multiple alien entities and 747 00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:35,460 Made up a story for what reason I'm not sure 748 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:40,160 It might be a little concerning that there were adults grooming him to which a 749 00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:42,660 entire life of 750 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:50,420 locations came but it seems to me like this is what he does he just sits and writes and creates entire 751 00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:53,220 stories and 752 00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:56,060 Interactions with aliens and writes them down 753 00:53:56,060 --> 00:54:00,900 It seems like this is all he does because there is or he goes on wild adventures 754 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:07,580 Which he takes very weird photographs of which also happened to exist in the world outside of it already 755 00:54:07,580 --> 00:54:14,700 Mm-hmm or are very easily faked very easily so to me a person that this is their whole life 756 00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:17,540 Is just building its elaborate 757 00:54:17,980 --> 00:54:19,980 Hokusis that are clearly been 758 00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:28,060 Fabricated and then put stories around them and then follows them up with letters and stuff like that being like they're destroyed 759 00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:35,460 And let's see what the aliens have to say about it and then he has the aliens have their say on it 760 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:43,260 Mm-hmm pretty disturbing as a human being that that this is where he's going with this not going with it 761 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:47,180 This is his life and the fact that we saw such blatant 762 00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:53,100 Hokusis of taking pictures out of book is also fairly concerning 763 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,700 We haven't seen things as brazen with our well 764 00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:01,020 We have seen some pretty brazen things in the history of our podcast 765 00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:07,820 But it's pretty brazen to just be going through books on space and taking pictures and saying that this is what you took on a 766 00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:12,060 Space adventure so yeah, those are my thoughts on it after putting okay 767 00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:13,740 We have those together well 768 00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:21,460 Thank you for putting this all together so far Chelsea and I am fully excited to see the point where it turns out 769 00:55:21,460 --> 00:55:26,900 Billy has not been lying at all and he's just been going on spaceship adventures. We're always looking for that 770 00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:32,740 We're always looking for it the surprise it was all real if you will get it part three would be a short one 771 00:55:32,740 --> 00:55:38,780 Yeah, so you guys keep your eye out for that four-minute episode on a Friday coming out soon 772 00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:44,700 But in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We are a journey to the fringe. Thank you all for listening 773 00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:46,700 We'll see you next week. Hey 774 00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:56,140 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe if you have liked what you have listened to please like share 775 00:55:56,140 --> 00:56:01,600 Subscribe or follow depending on what venue you are listening to us through also 776 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:07,220 Please if possible leave a five-star review as that really helps us in the algorithms 777 00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:12,260 Should you wish to interact with us? 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