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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where one David Pilatus fan describes us as

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hard to follow through the inane laughter and definitely not a podcast that David Pilatus

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would be caught on.

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We are your enabling laughter hosts, Taylor and Chelsea.

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Here today, maybe making David Pilatus fans even more butthurt, but maybe not.

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I don't know for sure.

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Because Chelsea's doing that.

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Oh yeah, we are.

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Oh, on this episode, I just thought in general, because I think that's just something we

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can add to our list of things we do here, is just upset David Pilatus fans.

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Yeah, yeah, it's just our voices that do this to the David Pilatus fans.

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And it's all the happiness.

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Oh yeah, David Pilatus fans do not like happiness.

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Oh no.

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That one thing was clear from those episodes.

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Oh yeah, that was clear.

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Okay, so I got something good for you guys today.

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It's a couple of episodes that I've put together for you.

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And if by couple, you mean three.

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I mean three.

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Someone means three.

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And for the next couple episodes, we're going to be exploring the life and times of not

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only the most prolific contactee, but also profit who comes forth bearing all sorts of

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scientific proof of his extraterrestrial contact.

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Edward Albert Meyer was born February 3rd, 1937.

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And he's also known as Billy Meyer.

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In case you got confused about who this episode was about, because I didn't tell you until

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right then.

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And that's not what he goes by.

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And I'm really going to emphasize the full name, Billy Edward Albert Meyer, because he

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also goes by beam.

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That's what he refers to himself as.

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Yeah.

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And that's his initials, right?

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Yeah, I didn't make that up.

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Sometimes I like give fun nicknames to people we're talking about.

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I didn't make that up.

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That's his own nickname for himself, which I'd never heard before.

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And why Billy if he gave himself the nickname beam?

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Well, the name Billy, he says was given to him by an American woman named Judy Reed.

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Quote, Edward Meyer wearing a black hat and a gun belt reminded her Billy the kid, the

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legendary gunman of the West.

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And quote, however, I would bet money that he just wanted to make his initials into the

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beam acronym.

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That's what I'm going to go with.

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Yeah, sorry.

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What was his name before?

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Edward Albert Meyer.

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Oh yeah.

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That is not good.

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No, but beam different story.

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Yeah, that's alien beam.

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I like it right there.

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Great name.

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Yeah, I think that he totally gave himself the name Billy so that he could do that.

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Do you think he's one of those people who gave himself his own nickname?

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I played football with a kid who gave himself the nickname Ace and it was real awkward.

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Nobody wanted to call him Ace and he called himself Ace.

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And I'm just wondering if this was.

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He referred to himself in the third person as his nickname.

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Well, sorry, did he refer to himself as the nickname like beam or would he refer to himself

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as the full name Billy Edward, whatever shortened it.

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I don't I don't know.

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It never came up if he refers to himself in the third person.

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But we're going to talk about beam in a little bit.

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So we'll see in which the way that he uses.

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So beam or as I prefer to call him BM was number two of seven kids and his dad was apparently

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a shoemaker.

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We can't laugh.

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This guy like was very upset with us.

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David Beleda's episode for.

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Oh God, he was.

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We cannot laugh enough guys.

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I were too funny.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll never stop laughing at my jokes.

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That's my promise to you.

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I got to start over now.

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He was number two of seven kids and his dad was apparently a shoemaker and overall this

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is totally irrelevant to the story.

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No, no, it's not Chelsea just because because BM was number two.

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Yeah, he was number two.

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And when BM was five years old, somehow he ended up in the deep woods.

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And sorry, sorry.

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I might have missed his where in the world is he at this time.

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Well done.

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I just missed the other sentence.

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So I got to go back.

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Thank you for calling me out on this.

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BM was born in the town of Bullock.

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I assume that was just flawless.

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And Zercher was.

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Flemish.

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Flemish.

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Which I later came to find out is it an around Zerch in Switzerland.

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So it was put that way.

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Chelsea, that was impeccable.

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I know.

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One of French, German or Italian right there.

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I know.

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Depending on where it was.

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The accent was flawless.

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I know I was practicing it.

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So now I can go back.

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You know what I actually, yeah, no, I can go back to what I was just saying.

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When he was five years old, somehow in Switzerland, he ended up in the deep woods.

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Stories vary as to how and why he was in the deep woods.

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Sometimes he is by himself and other times he is with his father, but somehow he was

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in the deep woods.

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As we find with stories coming from prophets like this.

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In the deep woods.

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In the deep woods, especially, but mostly prophets.

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It was here that he came upon an elderly looking gentleman named Spath, who was standing in

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the dense forest, Ipwood some way to say, wearing clothing that resembled a deep sea

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diving suit without the helmet.

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Now this is taken word from word from BM's website and it says Spath is from Ere, Lagerin.

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Lagerin is plural, equals star system, equals also the name of the population living in

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the Pledgearen system.

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In brackets, no plural as at the end of the word in contrast to the Pleiades exclamation

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mark close bracket close other bracket, which just seems crazy to me.

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Crazy nonsense to put it that way.

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We'll get into this in a second.

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So despite the man's odd appearance, the little boy did not fear him, meaning BM and

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the two struck up a conversation telepathically by the way, but also the conversation goes

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on throughout Billy's life for a little bit with Spath.

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And he also used the small device that Spath bestowed upon Meyer.

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Now let's take a time out from this deep woods encounter and just talk about what I

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just said there.

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It seems so confusing about the Pledgearen.

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The Pleiadians slash Pledgearens, the Pleiadians Pledgearen and their Confederates are human

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beings with physical bodies and look very much like the people of Earth, with the exception

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of some minor anatomical differences, especially regarding the Confederates as an aside.

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What part of them is significantly different?

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That is one detail in someone's work that is so very detailed that I did not see the

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details on.

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Fair enough.

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They got two details that they missed the details.

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Absolutely fair enough that it's missing a minor detail like that compared to all the

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other details that we're going to take a look at.

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So I'm going to take a little aside as well.

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And I've read a lot of beam stuff up until this point and I haven't seen the Confederates

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come up once yet.

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So in this, I just to be fair, I don't know what that is.

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I didn't think they met her as like the Confederacy.

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I thought they meant it more as like an amalgamation of a group.

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I know, but still, he's referring to a tribe that was a separate entity.

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So they never, I never saw Confederates mentioned again.

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So that's maybe, maybe it'll make sense the more we go on.

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Maybe we'll tie something together.

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Aside off, the Pledgearans as BM calls them, they live for about a thousand years approximately.

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Chelsea, I do have a question before you go too far.

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When we say a thousand years, they've roughly lived.

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We talked with earth years or their years.

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I'm going to go with earth years.

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Could be there.

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We always assume that.

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You're right.

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We always assume that.

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You know what?

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I feel like that is earth no centric.

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That is an earth no centric approach to this thing.

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I'm just going to come up with it.

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I'm going to spoil it for you all.

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That dies pretty early on.

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It might be.

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Maybe that was a thousand years.

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Maybe it was from the time he met him.

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It dies early on and that was a thousand of his years.

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All he was doing was wasting time.

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You guys always have to remember, we define a year as a rotation of a planet from one

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point to the exact same point around our star.

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But that doesn't mean it has to be our planet or our star.

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In fact, even in our own solar system, there's nine different years.

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Sorry.

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There's more years.

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In fact, we're just defining it as like an earth year, which is around our sun with

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See, I am going to call it earth no centrism, which is very close to ethno centrism, but

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with earthness.

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We're just a bunch of assholes.

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We can't think of anyone else but ourselves.

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Back to this.

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So, the home planet is somewhat smaller than earth.

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It's called ERA.

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And while this is their home planet, they also inhabit multiple planets.

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I'll leave that with you to just take in.

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Myer has referred to people from ERA as erins.

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Pleiadians in general are sometimes referred to as the Pledgearans by Myer.

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And Chelsea, is this where the name Aaron comes from?

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With any girl.

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And so because of their dimension, the Pleiadians are known as the Pledgearans.

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So not really sure what the fuck he means by that, but he said it nonetheless.

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So in quotes, which I'm not sure who this quote's coming from at this point, Pleiadians

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exist in a physical dimension that has shifted a fraction of a second ahead of our space

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time configuration and is located approximately 500 light years from earth's perspective

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and additional 80 light years beyond our dimensions Pleiadians star system.

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Its population is about 500 million people.

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And while the entire Federation has a population of 120 billion, the Pledgearans are not ideal

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identical with the Pleiades we can see in the night sky.

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They are 80 light years beyond the Pleiades in another space and time constellation, which

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is another dimension, which is so funny because I think I just mentioned that it was a fraction

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of a second.

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Yeah, and 80 light years ahead because of that.

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Which is funny because I got all of this work from his multiple websites.

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So I'm not sure where the disconnect is on that.

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The Pledgearans consciousness or spirit and technology are much higher and advance than

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The Pledgearans and the people on earth have the same ancestors but have developed separately.

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Okay, time out off.

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We're back to the deep woods with Svath.

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And this was to be the first of what Meyer claimed to have been lifelong interactions

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with beings from other planets who were essentially grooming him to be the next prophet.

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And he was groomed by Svath between 1942 to 1953.

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And that's me using the word groom because I'm going to be honest, what adult, no matter

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what solar system we're from, is contacting a child of that age.

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In the deep woods, contacting a child to change their viewpoint on anything.

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So Meyer follows the long line of prophets.

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As I mentioned in my opener, it goes Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jesus, Muhammad,

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Philip, and Billy Meyer.

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And he is heralding the coming of world wars, intergalactic discoveries, and environmental

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disasters and more.

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Due to these experiences, Meyer was said to have mentally aged at such a rate that he

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is the maturity at that time of a 35 year old man when he was only seven.

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Which is probably about the same in my experience anyway.

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It really depends on what topic they're really saying that he has a prowess in.

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Because yes, there are situations where a 35 year old and a seven year old will have

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similar foresight.

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That's true.

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After this time, Meyer leaves public school before finishing the sixth grade, as you did

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at the time, just whatever year I said it was, I can't remember.

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I'm doing all the talking.

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I can't keep track of everything I'm saying.

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But during this time, Meyer claims to have traveled the world over on Svast spacecraft,

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meeting various earthly leaders with whom Svath was acquainted, including the venerable

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Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

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Meyer's journey with Svath also took him through not only space, but the expanse of

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the time in which he saw himself in previous lifetimes and beheld the future of the world.

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Really was 11, Svath dies.

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So that just brings up the whole, like how many years are we counting here.

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And Asket, which is another person, takes over for Svath, who is not Plajaren actually,

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but is from a sister universe to our own, the doll universe.

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And Asket is taking over the grooming between 1953 and 1964, in which he's in contact with

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Asket.

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Maybe that's what he means by comrade comrades.

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That's what he was calling them, right?

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Yeah, I think.

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God, I'm just going to go back.

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Confederates.

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Oh, yes.

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Yeah.

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No, they rose up against the union of the pleads.

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Yes.

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Maybe that's the confederate that he's speaking with because she's from a different dimension.

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That will rise again.

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Exactly.

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And together with Asket and under her guidance, BM undertakes far journeys on our earth, during

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which his instruction intensified and was continued.

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Among other things, Asket revealed also the secrets of the pyramids of Giza, which they

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together explored.

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Asket even allowed Aime to trip back to Gimanuels.

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This is where you start to see it take a turn in this episode.

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I'm very curious what kind of term we're looking at for a little boy who travels with

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aliens.

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I have it right in brackets right next to this word, but I'm going to actually finish

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this sentence before I reveal to you who Gimanuels is.

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Is it Hitler?

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Asket allows Beamed a trip back into Gimanuels time, where he was able to personally speak

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with Gimanuels and was allowed to receive many important lessons from Gimanuels.

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Gimanuels.

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I really just, I really believe this is Hitler.

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Okay, well Gimanuels alias is Jesus Christ.

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Okay, those are different people.

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Not sure why he goes by Gimanuels.

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They left that out of the Bible, didn't they?

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Where every time he introduces himself, he says, please call me Gimanuels.

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Maybe that's the sentence.

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Even when he was on the cross and the guy was handling the nails in his head.

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What did Jesus actually go by?

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What did you guys censor out of the fucking Bible?

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It was Gimanuels, isn't it?

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Oh, oh, that is an even different name.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Chelsea, I can't believe how many names they have just put out right now for us to know.

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And in fact, Hitler was one of them.

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Wow.

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We are learning so much from the books.

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So much.

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So Taylor was partially right.

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I'm so glad when you invited the dead folks to come be on this podcast.

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That Ouija board episode was a real blessing.

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So in the book titled spaceships of the Pleiades, author Cal K. Korff not going to acronym that

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one should not do that.

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Can I still ask about the acronym?

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Is it KKK?

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It is.

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Okay.

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We can't take it.

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Okay.

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I just need to make sure it is.

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So in Myers younger years, he quote spent his time working various manual labor jobs dodging

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truan officers and having occasional brushes with the law and quote and BM's teens.

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He was convicted multiple times of apparently minor offenses.

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If you're curious to know the kind of minor offenses he was committing, I have only one

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that I was able to find for you.

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This minor offense is that as a result of his travels and perceivably odd preoccupations

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with, you know, his groomers bath, Meyer distanced himself from other children and he soon became

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the target.

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That is a very significant notification that there's grooming taking place as well.

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Just so everybody's on the same page.

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And eventually tensions escalated to a fever pitch and when a woman slapped him with a

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wet towel, Meyer returned the blow and offense that landed him in a youth prison at the age

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of 14.

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And I'm going to just say it was probably more than quote a blow if it landed him in

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a prison as a minor.

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So 1953 comes about and it not only marks the beginning of his relationship with Asket,

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but he was also convicted of thievery and forgery and sentenced to a prison term in

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Rhineau.

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And after escaping from the facility, Meyer illegally crosses the border and joins the

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French foreign legion.

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Then he goes AWOL from the legion and he ends up turning himself in in Switzerland.

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From here, Meyer claims he escaped and sets out on foot.

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So he's just escaping everywhere at this point and he escapes and sets out on foot on a long

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journey across the mountains and desert and numerous countries in Europe, Asia, Africa,

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doing all jobs like chicken farmer, great picker, nail pounders, snake catcher, truck

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driver, puppeteer, waiter, German tutor and ship painter, joining all the religions, Catholic,

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Catholic, Muslim.

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Is that a job?

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It's all the religions I'm naming.

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Oh, okay.

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He can do.

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Okay.

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This is just me not reading from a script and just naming religions that I know.

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Buddhism, atheism, I don't know, in search of a belief system acceptable to him.

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Chelsea, one more.

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It's Shen Yun.

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There we go.

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Okay.

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Was I right?

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I mean, maybe I don't know.

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That's one of those weird ones, but okay, I agree.

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It's my ideology.

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He did Shen Yun.

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I like that.

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He danced so hard in that trip before communism.

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So eventually he finds himself in the Middle East as a day laborer of all things he could

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be doing there.

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I would have picked like the oil billionaire of all things to do in the Middle East, but

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Meyer then said...

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Yeah, and there's really only two jobs at the time in the Middle East and he picked

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the worst one.

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Day laborer and oil billionaire.

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Yeah.

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There's the two options and they are our choice.

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We all know that.

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So Meyer says that he then took up the unusual vocation of pursuing serial killers and mass

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murderers to bring them to justice.

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Because his day laboring wasn't bringing in enough funds?

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Probably not.

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Did he become poor Batman?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Which I feel like it would not work out too much.

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It's going to be a lot harder for poor Batman out there.

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There's a reason there's not a comic out there called Poor Batman.

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Nobody wants to watch it because it's just sad.

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The guy's just barely getting by.

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In fact, every now and then it has to partake in those shifts being the lackey.

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And so he goes by the moniker the Phantom.

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So he becomes the subject of 21 failed assassination attempts.

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I guess he was just that good being a day laborer, moonlighting as a serial killer and

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mass murderer.

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I'll say I need to ask justice now.

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That good or that bad as a day laborer.

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There were that many assassination attempts on.

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True.

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Why would you go to another country to do this?

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It doesn't make sense.

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I mean he went everywhere man.

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He went everywhere.

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Can you imagine this song in that?

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That needs to be done as somebody is that talented to be able to put that together.

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So it's put that it was Ascot who leads Meyer to all of these adventures to explore as many

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careers and countries of the world and experience it all as much as possible.

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And it was she who led him through a series of adventures designed to toughen him up for

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the adversity to come.

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Being a prophet is hard work.

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It was she who led him through Africa and the experiences in the French foreign legion,

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the desert caravans, the slavers, revolutionaries and bootleaders into the hands of the pirates

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of the Arabian Sea and across the Indian Ocean as a sailor with the freighters to the subcontinent

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of India.

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And that brings us to August 3rd 1965.

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Meyer was riding a bus in Iskenderan in Turkey when a drunk driver of another bus crashes

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into Meyer's bus.

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Not sure why there is a drunk driver driving a bus but nonetheless it happened and the

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impact ejected Meyer from the bus and crushed his left arm so severely that it had to be

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amputated.

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So Billy Meyer does only have one arm.

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And Meyer who was undeterred continued his travels and relocated to Greece where he met

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Kaliope or Kaliope Ziffiru whom he married in March 1966.

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This is a real person not a plagiarist.

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Ok I was really waiting to hear about this person.

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No it's a real person non-alien and the couple moves to Pakistan for some reason it doesn't

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say why when they're already in Greece but that's where their first child Gilgameshah

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was born.

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Then in 1970 Meyer returns to Switzerland with his family of three now and they later

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welcome their second child.

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Get brace yourself hold on to something.

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You're about to be blown off your chair by this name.

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Ok hold on.

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Good.

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Atlantis Socrates into the world.

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Ok that is a very good name.

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I was actually very worried we were going to hear Lansalot capability.

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You were worried that's a beautiful name.

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Lansalot capability.

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But he's come up before.

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He's beautiful work with yards.

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Oh you thought it was going to be him and we're going to tie it into another episode

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beautifully.

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Yeah.

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No unfortunately it's not that good.

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This one's just a name Atlantis Socrates.

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I remain sunk into my seat then.

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I'm sorry.

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That's just how it goes.

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Their youngest child Methuselum was born in 1973 and the family.

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My god did they like these like early centuries names.

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Oh yeah loved them.

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Those are some good.

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Ok we got Gilgameshia Atlantis Socrates.

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We even created names in the last 1800 years anyways.

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Nobody that too.

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Nobody worthwhile anyways.

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We go with Methuselum.

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We go with Gilgamesh.

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We go with maybe if we really have to stretch.

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It's not even the good lost civilization.

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If I were to pick one it wouldn't be Atlantis and maybe Sarcasm.

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Oh no god.

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No and especially if you're going to name something with Socrates it's got to be Moussakrates.

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Like that that's really simple.

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That runs together very well.

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I'm going to be honest that runs together very well.

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Moussakrates.

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Yes Moussakrates you have your hand up you may speak.

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So he receives a small monthly welfare payment from the Swiss government because of his

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handicap which is one arm.

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I'm assuming unless there's a greater handicap.

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Which happened in Turkey.

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Yep I'm a drug driver of a bus.

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Went for another bus.

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On another bus.

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Yep and he supplements the family's income by raising chickens and selling the chickens

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eggs.

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So in 1974 Meyer places an ad in a German magazine Essotera seeking anyone who might

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wish to form a group for discussing and studying metaphysical or paranormal subjects.

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When people respond to the ad and a study group was born.

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Was at one of these meetings where Meyer first made the astonishing claim that he was in

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direct contact with extraterrestrials.

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In 1975 Meyer began his contacts with Sam Jassy.

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They all roll right off the tongue.

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We're talking an area of Switzerland that is on the border of Germany so they speak

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both the beautiful language of Swiss and German and I gotta love the German language.

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I love it.

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Oh it's so much more in an odd funny way.

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But they're a little bit of a German influence.

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It's a little if you haven't noticed.

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So Sam Jassy is another female extraterrestrial with whom he allegedly had more than 100 face

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to face encounters with.

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And it was she who allowed Meyer to begin photographing her beam ship and other UFOs.

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We get into it in the next episode about the beam ship.

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So just remember that for about a week.

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And I just I want to make sure to buy beam ship you don't mean his ship.

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Correct.

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No it's very strange that he goes by this nickname beam and the UFOs that they fly are

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specifically called beam ships.

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Very strange coincidence.

500
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,880
Okay.

501
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,480
I'd say at this point anyway.

502
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:39,000
So Myers Extraordinary claims garnered international attention when Swiss UFO researcher Luz Zinstag

503
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,280
sent some of Myers photos to Wendell Stevens in the United States.

504
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,760
I forgot to mention probably with this being said that M takes photos of UFOs.

505
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Okay.

506
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,520
But I also add Wendell is a name that has really fallen out of grace.

507
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,040
I can't disagree with the name.

508
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,520
It's not a bad name.

509
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Other than the fact that if it's a little boy, the little boy's nickname is Wendy.

510
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,480
From your old you're right.

511
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,480
You're right.

512
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,800
But I'm also trying to figure out where you just got the name.

513
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Oh yeah.

514
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Right there.

515
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Wendell.

516
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,800
You're right.

517
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Wendell is a good name.

518
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Wendell Stevens.

519
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Yeah.

520
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Not a bad name.

521
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,800
It's just the nickname is not great.

522
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,800
Nickname is not great.

523
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Oh it's not for a boy anyway.

524
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Unless he likes to go by Wendy.

525
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,720
But weirdly enough, it's just that we'd like to add E to the end of names.

526
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,720
No that's true.

527
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Wendell and Wendy they're the exact same length.

528
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,320
Yeah, they are.

529
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,160
But I'm still going to call them Wendy.

530
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Stevens went to Switzerland to investigate the case and as a result he published UFO contact

531
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,320
from the Pleiades as well as message from the Pleiades.

532
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,600
A four volume set of books related to the case.

533
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,960
As one of the primary researchers of the Meyer case, Stevens multi-year investigation played

534
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,600
a large part in introducing Billy Meyer to the world as well as the world to Billy Meyer.

535
00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:01,440
Now, that so far is what I need you to know about Billy Meyer's life in a nutshell.

536
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,480
I said this is going to be a couple part episode so obviously there's a lot more to this but

537
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,320
this is the background of his life that I need you to know.

538
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,800
One, he has one arm.

539
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Two, he's like right along there with Jemmanuel in as far as profits go.

540
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
If I Jemmanuel you mean Jesus right?

541
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Yeah, that's who I mean.

542
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,800
We're all on the same page.

543
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,360
He puts and all the other stuff I talked about.

544
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,840
So let's all remember that moving forward.

545
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Very important.

546
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,400
So that's the essential information that you're going to need moving forward.

547
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Obviously BM had a ton of contact.

548
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,640
You know what?

549
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,200
I'm going too far by saying obviously.

550
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,360
I'm doing this episode.

551
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,280
It's obvious to me at this point but I'm importing you with this.

552
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:52,480
So he's had a ton and I cannot emphasize the fuck part of that.

553
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,480
The F.

554
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Every alien wants a piece of this guy.

555
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680
They all want to talk to him.

556
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,680
He's very special.

557
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,840
He's got so much contact it would make your head spin.

558
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,600
So I thought I would take a look at some of the contact and wisdom at this point that

559
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,000
Beam was provided in his contact and it's just kind of background information.

560
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,360
I'm obviously not going to go through all the contact because it is immense and I'm

561
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,760
going to give you kind of a taste of it in a couple minutes.

562
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,920
What exactly this contact looks like.

563
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,520
And not all of it though because some things need to be held back for future episodes.

564
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,440
So I'm going to rapid fire you some bullet points here with some points from the Pledgeirons

565
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520
and fast facts about his contacts.

566
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Feel free to stop me where you must and of course this is presented without context as

567
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880
always.

568
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:53,960
So from 1964 where we left off with Usket she ends in 1964 and resumes in 1975 when

569
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,840
he meets Sam Jassy which is 11 years.

570
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:03,480
I find it strange based on the rest of his life that it just stopped for 11 years but

571
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Sam Jassy is the granddaughter's path and shortly after another Pledgeirons man named

572
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:16,880
Ptah comes along and other extraterrestrials have since allegedly joined the dialogue as

573
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,280
well and Meyer claims to be in regular contact with these extraterrestrial beings.

574
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:31,160
Meyer has apparently had more than 900 claims, 900 personal contacts with extraterrestrials.

575
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:37,440
Quetzal, Ptah and Nera as well as the others I mentioned in this episode are the most commonly

576
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,960
mentioned in his stories, lies whatever you want to call them.

577
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Didn't mean to say lies right there that might be a little bit of a foreshadow.

578
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880
A write-in by Us.

579
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Maybe.

580
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Yeah.

581
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,560
The Pledgeirons have a message of the extinction of mankind due to overpopulation and provides

582
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,160
explanations on innumerable questions and phenomena.

583
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,760
But not only do the Pleiadians know about our future they also know about our past.

584
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Jesus, O-D-Manuel, Alaleo, Galilei, Isaac Newton, I just tried to say Isaac Newton like

585
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Galileo Galilei.

586
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Isaac, I see.

587
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:28,760
They all had contacts with aliens and according to BM, are misrepresented by our history books.

588
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Those are just some facts about need to be in there.

589
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320
I could have put them in the beginning of this episode.

590
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360
I didn't want to give them to you as fast facts.

591
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,360
It's good.

592
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,440
I like those after we learned about his story.

593
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Yeah, exactly.

594
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,840
I could have mixed it.

595
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880
I could have added them as an afterthought.

596
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,280
I would also like to add at this point that none of those people I just mentioned ever

597
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
talked about alien interactions.

598
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120
So we have that.

599
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,280
How would they though?

600
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,280
They're dead.

601
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Well they did write things down surprisingly enough.

602
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840
But you raise a fair point in that they are dead.

603
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280
No, they cannot talk about them, good point.

604
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,400
I can put an afterthought so they cannot.

605
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,600
This is one of my favorite things that has come from what...

606
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,920
Okay, I'm going to be honest.

607
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:22,240
I know a shape or form have the time or do I want to read everything that Billy Meyers

608
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,080
had the fucking time on this earth right.

609
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,080
And it's a lot.

610
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,720
He must be writing for hours and hours and hours a day like it's a full time job.

611
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
This is the favorite story that I have.

612
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,120
We're going to tell...

613
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Wait Chelsea, I'm just curious.

614
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Yeah.

615
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,120
When we say he was a day laborer, was his labor writing by chance?

616
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,720
I don't know actually.

617
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240
We're going to see some fun stuff in the next episode.

618
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Okay.

619
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,720
This is going to be really fun.

620
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,680
So this is kind of one of my favorite things that happened to BM as far as I've seen.

621
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,120
I'm sure there's a lot of things that might come to my attention as my favorite if I was

622
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,240
to look into every single thing that he did.

623
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,520
This one stood out as a good one and we're going to talk about it more in the next episode

624
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,520
as well.

625
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120
But I'm going to give you a little taste right now to keep you going for next week and get

626
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,200
you excited.

627
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:16,080
So in 1975, BM has a quote, great journey.

628
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,400
And this happens.

629
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,400
1975.

630
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,120
It's also referred to as the great voyage, great trip, five day space trip, the space

631
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200
and time travel or simply as the trip.

632
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,200
It is so...

633
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,880
That's the word I'm looking for.

634
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Like grandiose.

635
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Transformational.

636
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,640
Trans-formational.

637
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,640
Grandios.

638
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,320
Just like life changing.

639
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Epic.

640
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Epic.

641
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Journey that happened to him.

642
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:48,200
And it was a carefully planned and guided tour by the Pledgeirin and the Pledgeirin Federation

643
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200
personnel.

644
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120
And Chelsea, it was a sorpo right?

645
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,120
You know what?

646
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,440
I wouldn't be surprised if sorpo wasn't included on the tour.

647
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:02,320
So through a rich diversity of sight, sounds, explanations, demonstrations and experiences

648
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,520
through space and time, to planets within the solar system and far beyond it, even to

649
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:13,000
beyond itself, lots of dimensionality to it and all in a beam ship.

650
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,440
It happened in the year 1975, beginning on Thursday the 17th of July with contact report

651
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,080
031 and ended on the 22nd of July.

652
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,120
It apparently continued over contact reports 32, 34 and 35.

653
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,720
These were all reports that Billy has written.

654
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:36,160
The second part of the journey was described in contact report 039, which started on the

655
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,720
3rd of December and lasted two days.

656
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:44,480
The events were not all exhaustively documented at the time, but briefly instead, probably

657
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,920
not to overload the reader with too much detail at one time.

658
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,840
It was an intensive five day experience with a lot to take in.

659
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,520
However, events were indeed later reflected upon and in hindsight with additional questions

660
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,680
being posited and subsequently answered.

661
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,640
The photos taken were regrettably sabotaged, but would have been worth a thousand words

662
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,040
serving to fortify and tell the story.

663
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,760
We can deduce would have been the original plan and rationale for taking them.

664
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,120
It's nevertheless a well documented story.

665
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,120
So I feel like I must give you some information here.

666
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,240
Billy took a ton of pictures on this journey, which is what we're going to be talking about

667
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,520
in the next episode.

668
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,000
And I'm not even going to say anything more because I don't want to ruin anything for

669
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,120
you just listen to the next episode because you want to hear it.

670
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,680
I know we haven't done it yet, so I just want to show you some of the fucking reports this

671
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,680
guy writes.

672
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,560
It's just off the hook.

673
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,160
He has millions of tons of these fucking reports in regards to the great journey itself.

674
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,760
He has 17 reports just on this one.

675
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,560
And it comes to us as contact record of the great journey.

676
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,560
So I'm just going to open this up.

677
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,680
I skimmed the first little part of it and I'm going to experience this with you.

678
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,280
I'm not reading this whole thing.

679
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,440
I'm absolutely not.

680
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,400
I could scroll probably for the rest of the night and not even get to the end of this.

681
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,000
It is so fucking detailed.

682
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
So let's dig into it right now.

683
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440
So it starts off Sam Jassy.

684
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Number one, I am not sure why these are numbered.

685
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480
That's my first thing that I take away from this.

686
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,360
And we have it here in both German and English.

687
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,000
So Sam Jassy says number one, again, not sure why it's numbered and Sam Jassy is the only

688
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
one that's numbered.

689
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,720
He says, today is your big day.

690
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:41,400
Billy says, after all that you have told me, I have already thought this to myself as well.

691
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840
Sam Jassy, two, must be having thoughts.

692
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,280
That is to be expected.

693
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:52,400
Three, but also this time I must warn you that you will have to keep silence over certain

694
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,000
things or you must be at a later date.

695
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,680
That is being expected.

696
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,920
At a later date, however, I may give you the permission to write about all that you have

697
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,560
seen and experienced.

698
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,720
I can only assume that happened.

699
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,920
Number five, that was me saying that he got the permission.

700
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Number five, so I will leave out of the transmission of the reports, all that cannot be spoken

701
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,520
about yet.

702
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Number six, but now come.

703
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,440
First we will do another trip through our sun system and then in brackets below it it

704
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,880
says this is it numbered.

705
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:31,880
He had to the ship and letter, so this guy, I can't, I don't even want to comment on this

706
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,880
yet.

707
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Like he's writing it like a script, like this is happening verbatim.

708
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,800
Like there's no way he's writing this as it's happening unless it's in his fucking head.

709
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,320
Maybe I didn't want to say that anyhow, I'm going to continue in brackets.

710
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,920
We head to the ship and let ourselves be lifted by the transport beam.

711
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,160
After a few seconds, the ship is already hovering high and from an altitude of about 50 meters,

712
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,980
I take some photos of the surroundings of the ship's departure point below.

713
00:38:00,980 --> 00:38:04,400
I take some straight from above and others at an angle.

714
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,800
I take them through the still open transport beam hat while we slowly rise.

715
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,360
After I finish, Sam Jassy closes the hatch and within seconds the ship shoots up several

716
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,360
kilometers high, without me being able to feel any acceleration or other external forces.

717
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,480
It's just as if I am standing on solid ground somewhere on earth.

718
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Also several sudden changes of direction cause no effect.

719
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Even if through the ship's window I can see that we often shoot in different directions

720
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,240
like a crazy giant pendulum.

721
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,120
Like why wouldn't they just go straight?

722
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Why are they bouncing all over the universe?

723
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880
So next, that's the end of the bracket.

724
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Sam Jassy says 7.

725
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,120
We are now leaving the earth's gravitational field.

726
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Billy says where are we to go now?

727
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Sam Jassy says 8.

728
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,040
First to Venus where you may already use your camera.

729
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Billy, what about Venusians?

730
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,720
Can one photograph them?

731
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,320
Sam Jassy, 9.

732
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,840
You must be joking.

733
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,680
As I already told you explicitly that this planet carries no human life forms.

734
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,640
Billy, I know, I just wanted to see what you would say.

735
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,280
Sam Jassy, 10.

736
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,640
I understand.

737
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,200
You refer to certain claims of alleged contactees.

738
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Billy, exactly.

739
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Sam Jassy, 11.

740
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Your lines of thought are often very difficult to detect.

741
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Did he just call him?

742
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Yeah, I get that from being.

743
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040
12.

744
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,760
But now, take a look at this equipment here, which we have developed specifically to provide

745
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
you with better photographic possibilities.

746
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,560
13.

747
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,160
You can simply put your camera against the screen and take photos of the outside.

748
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,160
14.

749
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,760
As you see, you can also look through this transparent material and see the outside,

750
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
just as if it was a simple glass window.

751
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,040
Huh.

752
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,760
So you did the way more intricate version of a glass window.

753
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,760
Yeah.

754
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,760
Oh yeah.

755
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,760
But almost exactly like a glass window.

756
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,760
Yeah.

757
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,760
15.

758
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,800
The device next to it, however, generates multiple radiations, which make visible or

759
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,560
simply preserve the existing color shades, etc. of the objects so that they may be captured

760
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,560
on film.

761
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,200
I do like that in conversation.

762
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,120
He actually used the word like, etc.

763
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,400
I don't know how many times I actually use that when I'm just listing things off if

764
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,400
I'm not writing it.

765
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,600
You're not an alien named Sam Jassy.

766
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,600
That's true.

767
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,600
That's pretty clear.

768
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,600
That's true.

769
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,600
And I don't number my sentences.

770
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,600
No.

771
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,600
16.

772
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,880
You don't start ever setting up with a sentence off with 11, 12.

773
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960
Well, hear me now.

774
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Yeah.

775
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
It's to keep track.

776
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,120
If you referred back to sentence 6, that I said.

777
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
We would all be on the same page.

778
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Yeah.

779
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,640
16.

780
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,240
In this matter, you will be able to produce good color photos, or so we hope.

781
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,240
17.

782
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:59,320
From our side, we have another camera, which is very similar to yours.

783
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,320
18.

784
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,120
If you give me a film, I can help you with the second camera.

785
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:10,280
Of course, but I am surprised because you already told me once you use a completely different

786
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,800
technique to create photographic images, but now you suddenly come with a matching camera.

787
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,760
Sam Jassy last quietly like this.

788
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,760
17.

789
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:28,400
The camera is a product of your technology and it was acquired by one of us.

790
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,840
Oh, somebody, the one of the plagiarists jacked it off somebody.

791
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,640
They went down to socialize Polaroid.

792
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Those assholes.

793
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,640
20.

794
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Never 20.

795
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Those assholes.

796
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Billy, you surprised me.

797
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,440
You must have gone into our villages or cities of them.

798
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Sam Jassy 20.

799
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,240
Is that so strange?

800
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:54,040
Billy, I always see you in your suits and with these clothes, neither you nor any of

801
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,920
yours could step into the eyes of the dear earth humans.

802
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,320
Sam Jassy 21.

803
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Sure, but we also have clothes of your type.

804
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,880
22.

805
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,720
They probably stole it from someone else.

806
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:07,720
22.

807
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:12,880
We need these because we move amongst you here and there naturally shielded from swinging

808
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,360
waves so that we won't be harmed by the swinging waves of the earth humans.

809
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,360
23.

810
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,360
However, we can only do this for a short period of time.

811
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Billy, that doesn't really surprise me, but why don't you go out with me sometime then?

812
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,760
Sam Jassy 24.

813
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,280
We can reach an agreement about that sometime.

814
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200
Billy, that was quick.

815
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,720
However, we have the so-called police.

816
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,800
Who often, for whatever whim, will check on people.

817
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,320
How will it be if someone asks for your identity papers?

818
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,120
Sam Jassy 25.

819
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,800
You have many questions, but don't worry about it.

820
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,800
26.

821
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,080
We don't have identity papers of your kind because we don't need such things in that

822
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,080
form.

823
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,080
27.

824
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Should it happen, however, that we get asked for such documents?

825
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Then we are able to adjust this by influencing thoughts.

826
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,040
28.

827
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,920
This adjusting takes place through the power of our thoughts, by which a mock appearance

828
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,960
is created for the concerned questioner and information from actual persons of your world

829
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
is simulated for him or her.

830
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,920
29.An eventual police officer would thereby get the impression that he or she has some

831
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,800
documents in hand and that he or she is verifying them.

832
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,800
30.

833
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,800
That is deceit, Sam Jassy.

834
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,800
30.

835
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,800
No.

836
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,800
It deals only with the creation of a hallucination, if you want to call it that.

837
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,800
Billy, I understand, so let's leave that.

838
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Is it just Billy focused on the completely wrong parts of this conversation?

839
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Yeah, it's almost like this trip didn't happen and he just fucking left it up out of his

840
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,480
own right.

841
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,640
But no, he's very focused on like, you guys are here all the time, like, how do you do

842
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,640
this?

843
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,960
You're like, oh yeah, the papers and we just kind of walk around and we steal shit.

844
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,080
Meanwhile, he's like, spline oil, use it, Venus.

845
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,520
Yeah, I would have so many different questions.

846
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,120
And they pull out like the same camera from Earth and he's like, what are you doing?

847
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,280
I'm just going to read this next little part and then this goes on.

848
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,640
I could be reading this for fucking hours and I'm not doing that.

849
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,320
It's just going to be another Serpo episode if we do be honest.

850
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,600
I assume this is just one thing.

851
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,600
Yeah, yeah.

852
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480
So it goes on quite a while.

853
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,920
I'm going to read this next part and leave it off here for this episode.

854
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:36,360
So in brackets under he understands and leaves it at that in bracket, the flight to Venus

855
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,160
does not take very long.

856
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,800
So I have just enough time to examine and more detail the equipment for making the photos.

857
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,800
The viewing screen looks to me like clear glass through which everything outside can

858
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,560
be observed as with you and with glass.

859
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,120
I'm sorry, he had just enough time to observe one thing in the spaceship and he decides

860
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,360
to do the camera.

861
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Yeah.

862
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,360
Okay.

863
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,360
I don't know.

864
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,080
I mean, he was going to be more exciting things to like look at and say like, wow.

865
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,080
He's gone for five days.

866
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,440
So who knows at this point?

867
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Yeah.

868
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,560
And by the time they get to Venus, all he's talked about is papers.

869
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,920
If they were to get a question by the police on earth.

870
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,920
Yeah.

871
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Okay.

872
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,920
So clear glass.

873
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,520
I only noticed that this whole viewing screen has a very fine resolution similar to a photographic

874
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520
print.

875
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,720
The size of the screen is about 50 by 50 centimeters.

876
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:30,000
That's an odd thing to say about the glass he's looking through.

877
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,160
If you noted that he said the resolution of the glass is similar to a photographic print.

878
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,040
While the color radiation device is installed on the side of it and recessed, I could not

879
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,480
examine its inner workings.

880
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Beside this device, there is also a oscillograph and many different kinds of apparatuses all

881
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,360
around the cockpit room installed within a circular control console and on the walls.

882
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,920
All this strange looking equipment already seen on the first flight is obviously used

883
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,440
for the guidance and control of the beam ship.

884
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,480
While also serving as exploration devices, distance meters, radiation control devices

885
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,280
and other such things, all playing important roles in the operation of the flight machine.

886
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,760
All the display screens, except the oscillograph however, differ fundamentally from all other

887
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,000
apparatuses of earth origin I have ever seen of similar type.

888
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Whereby all of the appearing forms, symbols and figures on the screens are expressed in

889
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,360
beautiful and often fantastic colors and also extraordinarily vividly.

890
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,400
I'm glad he at least looked at things that weren't just the cameras in the space ship.

891
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,840
Unlike the earth displays that I know, which in practice are only able to display flat

892
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,920
two dimensional images lacking depth, these screens show everything in vivid three dimensional

893
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,720
realism, like they are physically real and not just a technically generated image.

894
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:57,440
As we approach Venus, I have to tear myself away from the considerations because Sam

895
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Jassy begins talking.

896
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,080
I'm gonna leave you on that cliffhanger because I gotta call it somewhere and it goes on for

897
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,520
so fucking long.

898
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,720
I'll post this up in the episode notes but that's where I'm gonna leave it for this

899
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,400
episode and we're gonna pick it back up next week.

900
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,160
Do you have any thoughts on, I'm gonna ask you what you, what you knew of Billy Meyer

901
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,800
before at this point.

902
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,560
I should've asked you at the beginning but I was so excited to try to pull over.

903
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,360
To be fully frank, when you say Billy Meyer, I probably would've gotten him confused with

904
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Billy Mays and said, oh yeah, that guy who sells Shamwows.

905
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,520
I'll tell you what I knew about him.

906
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:47,520
I do know that he has quite a large following and I did know that he photographs, which

907
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
funnily enough I kind of left out of this episode.

908
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:56,160
He is one of the only person that has crystal clear photographs of UFOs.

909
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,240
That's what I knew of Billy Meyer going into.

910
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,880
And I do in fact think I got a quest for an episode on this guy from somebody I talked

911
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,520
to that I just haven't gotten around to yet so I am glad we're doing it.

912
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,840
Well I telepathically picked up on that or something that's not telepathically because

913
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,200
it didn't tell me that in my head but yeah.

914
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,080
It told you it in your heart I know.

915
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,800
What are you thinking so far?

916
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,920
I'm feeling that this Billy boy needed more adults in his life.

917
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,920
Yeah.

918
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:31,040
And I'm not sure if he did not have many other than the extraterrestrial groomer.

919
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,040
Yeah.

920
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Yeah.

921
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,480
And I'm very curious to see if adults end up in his life.

922
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:41,640
And I'm sure they do in very unique and different ways than we're expecting in the near future.

923
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,880
But I think that's all I got for you because man this guy.

924
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,600
He kind of just like loses an arm and says, okay I'm going to go fly on space ships now.

925
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,600
And he does that.

926
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,600
Yeah.

927
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,600
No that's exact.

928
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:00,480
And so next episode we're going to kind of make the picture whole of Billy Meyer and kind

929
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,400
of bring it all together for you of that which makes Billy Meyer.

930
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,720
And as far as part three I'm still going to leave that a mystery even though I did subtly

931
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:11,680
allude to it in this episode.

932
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,880
Part three I think is going to be a surprise for everyone because I don't think I even

933
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,440
put in the next episode because I certainly didn't know that about him.

934
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Oh that was a loud car.

935
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,680
That was a really loud car.

936
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,680
Wow.

937
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,680
For them.

938
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,680
Yeah.

939
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Yeah so we're in for some interesting facts too.

940
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Some hilarious facts and surprising.

941
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,000
I don't know if I just put another one in because I can't remember what number one was.

942
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,520
And maybe that's the point of numbering yourself so I'm fucking.

943
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Yes that is why you should be numbering your paragraphs of speech.

944
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
It's very clear at this point.

945
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Anyhow.

946
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Okay.

947
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,000
I don't know.

948
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000
84.

949
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,440
I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.

950
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,720
We are Journey to the Fringe.

951
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:58,720
Thank you all for listening.

952
00:49:58,720 --> 00:49:59,920
We'll see you next week.

953
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:00,920
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00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,880
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