1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I don't need to go over the topic headings. I think we've all memorized them. What do you feel like today? 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 I feel like I can't choose. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Feeling like, okay, I can get behind feeling can't choose. Where is it? 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 We have such an emotional array here at Journey to the Fringe. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I know. I need to really encompass every emotion that you could... 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Yeah, I actually feel like this should be... Oh, what's the name of that psychology book that all the diseases are in? 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:40,000 I feel like this spectrum should be in there so people can just point out their feelings so they can understand when they're talking to the therapist. 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Oh, no. This is going to be bad. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 It's not supposed to be bad, Chelsea. 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 It's full. We've done them all and can't choose. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Oh, no. How about feeling undecided? 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Are you going to feel disappointed? 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 You know what? Yeah, let's just go to disappointed. You are right. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 After that, sure as disappointing. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Okay, disappoint. Okay, I only have one in feeling disappointed. I think that's new, actually. 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Is it weird that feeling disappointed is making me feel curious and slightly upbeat? 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 It's also going to make you feel something else because this is also feeling like an update. 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Just reading the headline right here. Here we go. You're in for a wild ride because it's already causing so many... 19 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,000 There are way too many emotions for this one to be properly categorized. 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,000 I don't think it's the fault of the article itself. I think it's the parameters around what's happened so far. 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Well, you're going to see and it might even cause more emotions right as soon as I read it right now. 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Orcas are still smashing up boats and we finally worked out why. 23 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:51,000 May 27, 2024. This article is in newatlas.com. Never heard of them. We'll see. 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 How we need a new atlas? 25 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,000 No, we need an old one. Real old. Like, Pangeo. 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,000 I thought like GPS's got rid of atlas. Anyhow. 27 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 You never pull out an atlas anymore? 28 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 No. 29 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 You're driving? 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,000 For four years now, Orcas have been ramming and sinking luxury yachts in European waters. 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 We've had a fun go of keeping track of that. 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:22,000 And scientists have struggled to work out just why these smart social animals had learnt this destructive new trick. 33 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,000 But it's not due to some anti-capitalist eat the rich agenda. Damn it. 34 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Maybe this article's garbage, I don't know. 35 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Nor is it to do with territory and aggression. 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 The truth is, well, it's child's play. 37 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Following years of research, a team of biologists, government officials and marine industry representatives have released their findings on just why one particular Orkinus Orca group has developed this destructive streak. 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 And it turns out Orcas, especially the kids and teens, just want to have fun. 39 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:02,000 The report reveals that a combination of free time, curiosity and natural playfulness has led to young Orcas adopting this trend of boat bumping. 40 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Are these like bumping bears then? 41 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 I was just gonna say, it's just kind of like their bumping cars. 42 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Which is not at all surprising for a species that has been known to adopt odd isolated behaviors from time to time. 43 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:26,000 In recent years, a dramatic recovery in the population of bluefin tuna in the region has been a win for the group of about 40 critically endangered Iberian killer whales that feed exclusively on large fish. 44 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,000 This has meant they've cut down their time spent foraging, leaving space for other hobbies. 45 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 I wouldn't consider what Orcas do foraging. Is that not hunting? 46 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 I feel like foraging is the wrong word. Are there mushrooms in the deep sea that they're going for? 47 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Treffles. 48 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Can you imagine? I fully expect them to be training like water pigs to sniff out water treffles. 49 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Water treffles, yeah. No, they're the Orcas. They're doing it. 50 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:59,000 In addition, climate change could be playing a role leading to these tuna being in the Gulf of Catas continuously rather than seasonally. 51 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:06,000 The scientists noted this year round abundance means there appears to no longer be a need for whales to pursue every fish encountered. 52 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Analyzing data collected from individual Orcas and through observation, the scientists found that the attacks on vessels usually involved a couple of animals at a time from a core group of 15 that have so far been observed messing with boats. 53 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:25,000 But these attacks are anything but from the Orcas perspective at least. Oh my God, do we get the Orcas opinion? 54 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Finally. 55 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 I know this is where the science comes in. 56 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,000 They've been working on that communication technology for a while. We covered it a long time ago on that Fringy Mini. 57 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 We did. Oh, I wonder what Twain's been up to. Right, we need to make note of that. 58 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,000 I wonder if they asked Twain about this? I know Twain's not an Orca, but they should ask Twain. 59 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 They should. I mean, how else are they going to... 60 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 What if Twain is racist against Orcas though? 61 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000 We gotta know. If he's racist, that's something we need to know about whales. 62 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 And whether or not it's important in whale culture. 63 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:03,000 We need to know so that we have an easier time choosing who our favorite whales are going to be because right now they're the Orcas. 64 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Okay, I'm just kidding. Not those racist blue whales. Is that what Twain? 65 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Yeah, Twain's a blue whale. 66 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Yeah, they're racist. Not my favorite whale. 67 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Most of the 15 were male juveniles and teens in the most curious and exploratory of an Orca population 68 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:25,000 suggesting that what started as playful head bumping on boat rudders has escalated as the animals have grown larger. 69 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:33,000 The team notes that this rudder bumping behavior was observed around 2017, but the interactions didn't result in any boat damage. 70 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Now that the Orcas are larger, the game has become a lot more powerful. 71 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:43,000 And no Orca over the age of 25, when males are fully grown, has been seen participating in the Tom Foolery. 72 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Well, no, that would drive up their insurance premiums too much. 73 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Orcas. I know. 74 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 That's when they mature and start to actually care about what their insurance is. 75 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 They settle down, they have their mortgage. 76 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Yeah, yeah, have families. 77 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Scientists suspect younger Orcas have seen older siblings playing with their rudder toys and then copied. 78 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Some females have been spotted, but they're most likely there to just babysit the- 79 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Killer whales are known to play with other objects or animals in their environment to the point of damaging them. 80 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 It isn't the same with all kids. 81 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,000 In the southern resident killer whale population of Washington, USA, which feed on salmon, 82 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 individuals will play with harbor purposes to the point of killing them, 83 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,000 which may be similar escalation of an initially less harmful interaction. 84 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 They just play through the harbors. 85 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 So this behavior seems on that spectrum. 86 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Don't they just eat them? 87 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Like they're hunting them, or do they play with them? 88 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 They can play with them, just so you know, porpoises are dolphins. 89 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Yeah. 90 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 That's not like their main food source, as far as I know. 91 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Oh, those are their main playing source. 92 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Yeah, I guess on that population. 93 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 For some reason, I've actually been watching quite a bit of whale documentaries. 94 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Yeah. 95 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 That's a request of people in my house, mostly narrated by Sigourney Weaver. 96 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Is it the dog? 97 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Of course. 98 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Is the request for something narrated by Sigourney Weaver? 99 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Is it the whales? 100 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 It's whales, but I think that's only because that's the only work that can be articulated at this point. 101 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,000 But from what I've learned is they have a very high culture orcas between their different populations. 102 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Yeah. 103 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 The very different cultural norms and practices and hunting skills. 104 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 I forget where I was going with this, but anyhow, they didn't really bring up anything about porpoises being a main food source. 105 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Mostly man-for-age and food. 106 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 I mean, that makes sense. 107 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Yeah, because porpoises are inherently less racist against other porpoises than whales. 108 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 That's why they're at the face of Journey to the Fringe. 109 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Whenever you listen to a podcast. 110 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Well, that in their anti-capitalist tendencies. 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Yeah, this is why it causes so many... 112 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 I think this is far enough to go in the article. 113 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 We get the point. 114 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:54,000 But I'm just going to ignore the fact that it said that they're anti-capitalist and just think that still there's other things they could be playing with, 115 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 but they're still trying to sink those yachts. 116 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 And most importantly, Chelsea, we did not look into... 117 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 For fun. 118 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Yes, exactly. 119 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,000 We did not look into yacht ownership status of the writer of this article, 120 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:11,000 probably choosing to blame blame outside of his capitalist reporting cells. 121 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Can I comment on this? 122 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,000 I don't want to say because we've talked about inflation and how there's all these things that the rich want to say are causing it. 123 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,000 When really it's just them and their inherent issues that they bring with them. 124 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And you can write it off pretty easily. 125 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 And I think that's what they're trying to do with the orcas. 126 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Yeah, there is a comment section, but it won't let me comment. 127 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Are you the owner of a yacht? 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 So I guess we just assume that yes, it's a biased article. 129 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Yep, biased article. 130 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 We just kind of have to know that. 131 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Yeah, they're racist against orcas too. 132 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Just like the, is it written by a blue whale? 133 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 A yacht owning blue whale. 134 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Written by Dwayne. 135 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Okay, you guys got 48 hours. 136 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Figure this out for us. 137 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 We'll meet you back here. 138 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Probably without an answer because we're recording the second portion of this week's episode now, 139 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 but you guys still have to get back to us within 48 hours. 140 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Much appreciated. 141 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Bye. 142 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Thank you. 143 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Thank you.