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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where we explore the seven wonders of the

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modern world.

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It should be noted though, unlike the seven wonders of the ancient world, which were

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built, these wonders are more insane ponderings of terminally online individuals.

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Or like, hey, I wonder, anyhow, we are your podcast hosts, Taylor and Chelsea here today,

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exploring just one of those wonders, I assume, because Chelsea's done the same thing she

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always does.

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It was, this was the perfect opening for it.

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It's almost like, I knew, but I did not.

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I don't know, something that we've covered in the past.

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Synchronicity.

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Like remote viewed what I was doing or something like that.

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Insert.

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Do you know what?

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Fringy something here.

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It could be the Mandela effect where I came from a universe in which you told me the topic

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that you would be covering in this episode, and then these two timelines merged.

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In this universe, I've withholded all the topics from now on.

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Yes.

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Always have.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So this week, you're all about to learn, including Taylor, about this phenomenon, which is such

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a hard word to pronounce.

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I've been seeing it pop up a few times now, and I don't, I never knew much about it.

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You mean sort of the word phenomenon or this phenomenon?

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This the word phenomenon.

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I said it.

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You've been seeing the word phenomenon pop up.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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It's very hard to pronounce.

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No, wait, I think I misunderstood the question.

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The topic phenomenon.

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Okay.

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The topic that I'm going to cover, which is its own phenomenon.

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That's the one that I'm mystified by, I think.

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Well, let's keep going and see if that makes sense.

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I'm going to finish the sentence now.

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I figured what better way to find out about it than to do a whole episode about it and

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find out I did.

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Now, let's find out the mysterious phenomenon being drumroll here.

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The mysterious phenomenon being random isolated staircases being found in the woods that

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is with no other structure attached to it.

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Oh, this has come up in a previous episode.

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I can't remember with.

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It has?

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Yeah, we vaguely talked about it one time.

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Ah, I don't remember that.

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I'm excited.

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Do you think it was the Phantom Time episode?

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The original.

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It was the Mandela Effect episode.

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If again, that we do not come from the same universe.

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So moving on to more about this phenomenon.

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The phenomenon.

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I'm actually seeing how much I can say phenomenon in this episode.

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It actually seems to originate from a Reddit post by user search and rescue woods, oddly

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enough, or fittingly, maybe, who claims to be a park ranger and the entire post is titled

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I'm a search and rescue officer for the US Forest Service and I have some stories to

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tell.

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And he goes on to make several lengthy posts about all his experiences in the woods as

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a search and rescue officer for the US Forest Service.

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The person who made this lengthy multi-post talks about strange things that he has encountered

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while on duty.

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He talks a lot about mysterious missing people, which was intriguing in itself.

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He says that is a majority of what he deals with is the mysterious missing people and

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that and rescue calls.

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He tells of encounters of missing people he found referencing people with no face.

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Big men with black eyes following them.

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Wait, are those the egg ghosts?

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No, they could be actually, because we don't know egg ghosts here.

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It could be.

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It is, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's just different culture.

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Also in reference to missing people, big men with black eyes following them and sometimes

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making sounds such as running water, bobcats screaming, etc.

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Walking sticks of missing people found hanging from the top of 30 foot trees.

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Strange animal sounds, which I just kind of said up, not up, up in my notes, but like

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just 30 seconds ago, which we've talked about with big foot.

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And the sounds just sound off or one was described as sounding fuzzy, babies crying on loop.

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That's not what we're talking about, but I just thought I would put in some of what

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he talks about in reference to the missing people and his search and rescue missions.

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I'm going to now just read through the first post he made in regard to the stairs and then

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we can go through some fun facts of the stairs.

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But I thought I'd first start out with where we first kind of saw this start to begin.

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Well, this is the last one I'll tell and it's probably the weirdest story I have.

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He obviously was telling other stories and then got to this.

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Now I don't know if this is true in every SAR, which is search and rescue, he shortens

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it to SAR unit, but in mine, it's sort of an unspoken regular thing we run into.

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You can try and ask about it with other SAR officers, but even if they know what you're

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talking about, they probably won't say anything about it.

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We've been told not to talk about it to buy our superiors and at this point we've all

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gotten so used to it that it doesn't seem weird anymore.

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On just about every case where we're really far into the wilderness, I'm talking 30 or

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40 miles, at some point we'll find a staircase in the middle of the woods.

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It's almost like if you took the stairs in your house, cut them out and put them in the

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forest.

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I asked about it the first time I saw some and the other officer just told me not to

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worry about it and that it was normal.

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Everyone I asked said the same thing.

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I wanted to go check them out, but I was told very emphatically that I should never go near

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any of them.

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I just sort of ignore them now when I run into them because it happens so frequently.

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So that's where the phenomenon seems to kind of originate as far as my research took me.

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Interesting.

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Now let's set out to explore where this takes us.

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Cause yeah, I definitely heard about this.

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I couldn't literally place where I've heard about it.

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It might even be from that posting, but I feel like it's a phenomenon that has gone just

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past that posting.

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It has.

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I'll cover a little bit of it.

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It's definitely gone past it.

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So the first emergence of the random spooky staircases in the woods goes back to only

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2019 with apparently this post that I just read you.

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And from there, it just takes off like wildfire with others sharing their own experiences

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from all over the world, including the US, Portugal, Brazil, Germany, Norway, Philippines,

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just to name a few.

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These stairs are found in the woods, sometimes as deep as at least 60 kilometers into the

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woods, just like he just kind of said in the post that I just said.

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The stairs encounter come in a variety of shapes, sizes, styles, age and conditions.

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Some can be pretty dilapidated just in ruins.

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Others are brand new.

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A set of stairs was referenced as looking like they came from a lighthouse.

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So they were metal and kind of spiraled up in like an old fashioned way.

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They are any material in shape.

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Some are stone and very old.

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Some modern looking.

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Some are brick.

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Some are, I'm sure I didn't mean Saturday.

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That is an interesting staircase.

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Some are Saturday.

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I'm not sure what I was trying to say.

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So I will just leave it at Saturday.

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Some are wood and rickety and cast iron spirals like I just said.

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So you get the idea, hopefully, because Saturday is thrown in there.

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So I'm not sure if you do.

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I'm going to continue on anyway.

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We're imagining regular stairs.

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Like you said, just copy and pasted from your house.

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I don't know any other places there are.

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Well, I guess there's many places that are stairs other than a house.

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Pretty much everywhere has stairs.

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Outdoor places.

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Places with hills usually have them.

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Buildings that are more than one story usually have stairs.

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Some even dare I say have moving stairs.

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Has anybody ever come across escalators?

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Maybe that's what you meant by Saturday.

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Auto corrected.

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We can only your eyes at this point.

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So anyway, it's like someone took any of these stairs we just talked about copied pasted

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them into the middle of nowhere.

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Oh, and get this.

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There have also been reported accounts of upside down staircases and staircases in

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lakes.

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Aren't those just staircases still?

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No, but they would like go the wrong way.

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Like upside down.

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Flip them.

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So it's like, you know that painting of the stairs going like all over the place?

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Or the mention.

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So like upside down, like one of those.

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So stairs.

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Not all of them.

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So you'd be having to walk on them upside down to get up them.

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Oh, okay.

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So it's all okay.

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I think I read it.

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I think I got it.

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So the stairs don't go infinitely up into like the universe space like continuing on.

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We would have spotted those before 2019 had they.

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But some sets are hard to.

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What if those weird stairs going into the sky?

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They don't go up infallate, but some sets are taller than others.

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I also feel like our space program would have taken a completely different turn had

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we been able to just walk into space.

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It would take a while.

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Can you imagine going up those stairs?

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Oh, you would have to pack.

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That would suck.

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But you'd get that.

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You would have like the most muscular stuff.

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I would really hope there's railings.

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I know.

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I couldn't do it if there was railings.

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So some stairs are taller than others and apparently you're not supposed to ever go

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near touch or especially ascend them as he got to in his very first post about the stairs.

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It couldn't be a girl.

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I don't know why I'm saying he.

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Most of them with exception, of course, are clean, free of debris, no dirt, leaves, dust,

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vegetation and no signs of animal activity, including insects is going on around them,

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but you're not supposed to inspect them.

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Like how close did he get that he's like, yep, no insects here.

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He is not the only person talking about them.

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Okay, which we're going to talk about because I feel like if it's just based on him, who's

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like, yeah, don't go near them.

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You can't say there's no bugs on them.

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I feel like if he's the only one experiencing them, it would be pretty easy to discredit.

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Yeah.

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But we'll get to it.

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We can't discredit any of this.

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It's very real.

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People have purported feeling unnerved and overwhelming feel of dread, unwelcome or even

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nauseous feeling when they're on the stairs.

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So some people didn't follow the people go on the stairs.

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And the ones who survived tell us the stories.

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Stories being a pun here for we have stairs.

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That one was over my head.

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That's very clever.

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Congratulations.

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There's a variety of theories as to where they come from and what they're doing, being

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naturally occurring from like a house that has since become dilapidated.

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Everything about the house, rotten or any stairs.

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There's people who theorize that like sometimes stairs are more sturdily built.

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So the rest of the house just falls apart.

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Reclame by nature, leaving the stairs with no other signs of anything being around it.

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That's literally one of the theories.

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I like that theory.

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It's people trying to disprove it.

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However, it doesn't show any signs of being part of another structure in most cases.

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We also hear alien prank, fairies, vortexes, portal to another dimension.

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Staircase to hell is a popular one, might I add.

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Others seem to believe it's somehow tied to the weird mysterious missing people cases.

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Another one being that ancient cultures built them.

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I'm just curious if this comes up in your research.

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Are they like the normal length of stair or would they be a longer stair?

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Sometimes they're longer, sometimes they're shorter.

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The lengths really vary.

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Okay, I'm just curious because I'm trying to figure out.

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No, I mean like each step itself.

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Like could a big foot foot fit on these steps?

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So far as I'm putting together, it's like regular stairs.

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Okay, so it's not big foot.

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Maybe he's just trying to be like people.

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He saw some of the building stairs and he's just took it upon himself from there.

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From everything that I've seen it would be something for our gate, not big foot because

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people, ah, if you're seeing it from far off though, you might not be able to tell how

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big those stairs are.

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So I'm gonna leave that one open because I can't confirm.

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For the most part people say it's just like stairs.

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Okay, and the other question I have I guess at this point, you did kind of have some

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descriptions of things around the stairs or people's feelings.

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Has there ever been an aroma described around them?

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No, not that I ever came across.

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Unless somebody talks about it in one of the sightings because I don't read those.

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Oh yes.

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I just want to make sure because that's that feeling of dread and then like the sulfur

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smell that you're gonna get.

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Yes, I was just gonna say you're probably getting it sulfur.

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No, but we can see if it comes up at all.

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So there is a source that I saw that says that they appear mostly in areas where someone

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has disappeared or they're spotted.

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Because you search and rescue, right?

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So they're going out to look and they come across stairs almost all the time that they're

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looking for a missing person.

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But also you're only gonna look for missing persons in like remote regions that are hard

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to get to, are you not?

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Which I think maybe not necessarily.

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I don't know, I've never thankfully had to look for a missing person.

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I don't, yeah, I'm just trying to think here because like if it's just like you're looking

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for somebody in a normal area, first off, they're not gonna be that lost.

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Second off, stairs aren't gonna seem out of place.

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So I don't know maybe it's just kind of like self selecting.

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So these staircases in particular are in places that there should not be staircases.

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I feel like at this point I should specify that again.

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It's about all I could put together for like generally what we're looking at for stairs.

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This guy wrote several posts and it's not just specifically about stairs.

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He also writes about, like I said, I put a bunch of stuff together about weird things

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about missing people.

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He's just generally sharing his stories and other colleagues of his stories from what's

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going on, what they've encountered and just weird out of place things that are going on

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in the staircases come up.

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From this, people start commenting and sharing their own stories on these threads and it's

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several Reddit threads that he writes and he writes, it's just like a wall of words.

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So he stops writing and then comes back, posts another link to another place.

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So there's several of them.

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He shares a lot of stories from himself and his colleagues.

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And I'm just gonna share it now before I get into some of these eyewitness accounts.

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I must disclose the original post of this search and rescue person is on the Reddit thread

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called No Sleep, which is a lot of fictitious stories.

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Yeah, I would compare it probably to like creepypasta and stuff like that, just fictitious

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made up stories.

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And the debate kind of goes from there.

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People say it's made up, but for those saying it's completely made up, other people point

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to the fact that others start sharing their own stories about it.

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Did it remain on No Sleep?

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Yes.

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Or did it kind of expand?

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Okay, because part of No Sleep also has people kind of elaborate on stories also.

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Yeah, I don't know that it's all necessarily made up and then they point to also the people

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commenting while there are people that are gonna, it's Reddit, right?

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People are gonna comment whatever the fuck they want, but people point to the people

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commenting in detail that, you know, it's not all necessarily gonna be made up as always.

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You be the judge or just listen to what we have to say about it.

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We can accept that as well.

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We will opine for you.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So let's get into some of the stories.

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So this is a part of the thread that he was going.

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So this is just another story that he's sharing in amongst all the other ones.

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So he goes on and I can't remember the dude's name like search and rescue dude or something.

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Search and rescue would shares.

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One of my first jobs as a trainee was a search op for a four year old kid that had gotten

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separated from his mom.

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This was one of the cases where we knew we were gonna find him because the dogs were

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on a strong scent trail and we saw clear signs that he was in the area.

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We ended up finding him in a berry patch about half a mile from where he'd last been seen.

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Kid wasn't even aware that he'd wandered that far.

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One of the vets brought him back, which I was glad for because I'm really not good with

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kids and I find it hard to talk to them and keep them company.

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As my trainer and I are headed back, she decides to take me on a detour to show me one of the

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hotspots where we tend to find missing people.

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It's a natural dip in the land near a popular trail and people will usually move downhill

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because it's easier.

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We hike out there, it's a few miles away and we get there in about an hour or so.

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As we're walking around the area, she's pointing out places she's found people in the past.

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I see something in the distance.

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Now this area we're in is about 8 miles from the main parking lot, though there's back

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roads you can take to get closer if you don't want to hike that far.

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But we're on state protected land, which means there can't be any kind of commercial or

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residential development out here.

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The most you'll ever see is a fire tower or makeshift shelter that homeless people think

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that they can get away with building.

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But I can see from here that whatever this thing is has straight edges and if there's

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one thing you learn quickly it's that nature rarely makes straight lines.

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I point it out but she doesn't say anything.

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She just hangs back and lets me wander over and check it out.

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I get within about 20 feet of it and all the hair on the back of my neck stands up.

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It's a staircase in the middle of the fucking woods.

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In the proper context it would literally be the most benign thing ever.

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It's just a normal staircase with beige carpet.

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Oh this one has carpet.

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And about 10 steps tall.

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That can't be clean.

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No, you would think it would be squishy too.

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I really like that he brought up that nature doesn't make straight angles but it's carpeted.

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That's the part that you should focus on for nature doesn't make carpet.

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But instead of being in a house where it obviously should be, it's out here in the middle of

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the woods.

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The sides aren't carpeted obviously.

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And I can see the wood it's made of.

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It's almost like a video game glitch where the house has failed to load completely and

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the stairs are the only thing visible.

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I stand there and it's like my brain is working overtime to try and make sense of what I'm

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seeing.

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My trainer comes and stands next to me and she just stands there casually looking at it

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as if it's the least interesting thing in the world.

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I ask her what the fuck this thing is doing here and she just chuckles.

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It used to it rookie you're gonna see a lot of them.

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I start to move closer but she grabs my arm.

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Hard.

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I do that she says her voice is casual but her grip is tight and I just stand there looking

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at her.

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You're gonna see them all the time but don't go near them, don't touch them, don't go

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up them just ignore them.

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I start to ask her about it but something in the way she's looking at me tells me that

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it's best if I don't.

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We end up moving on and the subject doesn't come up again for the rest of my training.

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She was right though.

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I'd say about every fifth call I go on I end up running across a set of stairs.

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These are relatively close to the path maybe within 2 or 3 miles sometimes they're 20-30

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miles out literally in the middle of nowhere and I only find them during the broadest searches

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or training weekends.

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They're usually in good condition but sometimes it looks like they've been out there for

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miles.

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All different kinds all different sizes the biggest I ever saw look like it came out of

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a turn of the century mansion and where at least 10 feet wide with steps leading up at

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least 15 to 20 feet.

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I've tried talking about it with people but they just give me the same response my trainer

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did.

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It's normal.

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Don't worry about it they're not a big deal but don't go close to them.

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When trainees ask me about it now I give them the same response I don't really know what

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else to tell them.

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I'm really hoping someday I get a better answer but it hasn't happened yet.

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I should also note that in most of these instances people will spot us at a staircase

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then go back and they're gone.

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That's relatively important I think.

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Yes that's the first time it's come up.

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Yeah that's why I better say it.

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Next one is not from this guy.

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This is from user case underscore nine and they shared the story saying I found the staircase

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while walking through foliage so thick I didn't see it until it was almost under foot.

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The stairs were made of loose cobble and moist earth like they were work of masonry

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once long ago.

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I climbed the stairs thoughtlessly half expecting there would be a landing to greet me at the

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top though there wasn't.

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Just another crumbly step in an unimpressive view.

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Something caught my eyes I craned my head.

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The bushes were packed tight except where the stumps of dead trees formed sunken walls

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around them and from one of the craters someone was looking at me.

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I remember clearly their dark, lean face, their round eyes black.

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No sooner had I seen the face than it disappeared again.

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Only did I have the foresight to take off down the steps back through the bushes and

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rambles.

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I found that one interesting because it had the same black eyed creature that other missing

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people, mysterious missing people have spotted.

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It also seems like the stairs wanted him to accidentally walk up him and fall off.

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You think it's the stairs that have consciousness?

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That's another good theory.

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Maybe.

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The stairs themselves are the cryptid.

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They seem to move.

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They do.

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Maybe they're conscious.

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Maybe it's a brace of extraterrestrial we've never thought of.

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We could start a cult.

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I mean it could, they don't have to be extraterrestrials.

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They'll just be like, stair peoples or stairs.

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They have feelings too.

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And like no one's ever thought to glass by stairs is a living thing.

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So.

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And why would, I wouldn't want somebody climbing up me either.

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Like mate that's why people feel unwelcome.

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They're in the stairs personal space.

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Anyhow, let's go on to the next setting.

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This one is from user guy who complains.

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You're going to notice that all these stories are ready users.

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I used to volunteer at a state park in Oklahoma and I always got spooked by the stories that

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the older park rangers would tell me.

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Since everyone is especially spooked by the story of the luring crying in the stairs,

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here is one relating to them.

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From the perspective of the older ranger who told me the story, he was a younger vet in

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the 90s when he came across a structure that looked like the bottom floor of a house.

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A floor of wood about 8x8 that looked well crafted for being out in the fuck of nowhere

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with a chair and table on it.

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He approached it until he heard his CO calling out to him, but when he turned around and

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saw him yelling with all his strength, he ran back to the CO, told him that it's a common

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trap used by the fucked up people in the world to catch someone.

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They use familiar objects to prey on wanderers because they feel comfortable near them, or

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in the case of the stairs, they look like good vantage points to see the direction civilization

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is in.

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They're lost I guess.

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The floor, particularly crazy, is that it was put in a sort of natural bowl in which

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the acoustics blanketed all noise with a layer of white noise, making it so you can't

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hear anyone approaching.

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He said the next week his CO brought in the proper authorities to blow the damn thing

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up.

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The story did not end there.

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They went to check the site immediately after to make sure there was no way in hell a fire

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could start, and in the middle of where the floor had been, they had seen three or four

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holes near where the table and chair was.

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Now due to the explosion, the holes had caved in, but the authorities said that with some

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of the wood they collected, it was possible that near the table and chairs, thinner wood

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was used where they could fall through the holes.

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They didn't find anything in the holes after digging them up again, but from how different

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the densities in the soil was, they could tell that the holes were built to be about

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6 feet deep.

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Moral of the story, animals aren't the only hunters out there if you see something too

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unnatural or too perfect to be true, don't Instagram it, run.

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Well, this is just one of those stories that Chelsea obviously did not proof read.

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I mean, you can still Instagram it, just like don't go into it.

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Take the selfie from afar, I think was the story.

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Yeah, and then maybe just then walk away from it.

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Yeah, because clearly it's just some sort of trap.

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Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, not a fan of that story.

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Not a lot of stairs in that story.

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There wasn't stairs, it was just a random thing that they blew up in the woods.

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My buddy had been an SAR officer for about 7 years.

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He started when he was a junior in college and he had a very similar experience when

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he first encountered the stairs.

485
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,480
His trainer told him almost the same thing Mai did, which was to never go near touch or

486
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,480
ascend them.

487
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,200
I'm pretty sure this is the original Reddit user as well, just from the language.

488
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,560
For the first year he did just that, but apparently his curiosity got the better of

489
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,560
him.

490
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,280
And on one call he broke away from the line and went to go check a set of them out.

491
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,000
He said they were about 10 miles from the path where a teenage girl had vanished and

492
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,640
the dogs were following his scent.

493
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,720
He was on his own, lagging behind the main group when he saw a set of stairs off to his

494
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,720
left.

495
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,440
They looked like they were from a new house because the carpeting was pristine and white.

496
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240
A second one with carpet.

497
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
Arpit never came up before with me.

498
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,240
Except for on these stories I'm reading.

499
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,240
Except in every story.

500
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000
Almost everyone.

501
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,720
He said that as he got closer he didn't feel any different or hear any weird noises.

502
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,760
He was expecting something to happen, like bleeding from his ears or collapsing, but

503
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,360
he got right up next to them and didn't feel anything.

504
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,000
The only thing he said that was odd was that there was absolutely no debris on the steps,

505
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,880
no dirt, leaves, dust, anything.

506
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,160
And there didn't appear to be any signs of animals or insect activity in the immediate

507
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,760
area which he found strange.

508
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,360
It was less like things were avoiding them and more like they just happened to be in

509
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,440
a relatively barren part of the forest.

510
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,360
I mean there's no part of the forest where there aren't going to be bugs or animal life.

511
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,640
It's because it's too deep into the forest.

512
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,960
He touched the stairs and didn't feel anything except that sort of sticky feeling you get

513
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,960
from a new carpet.

514
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:47,400
I gotta say I'm completely unfamiliar with that new feeling on the carpet of being sticky.

515
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,400
It is a new carpet so I'm not sure why it's sticky.

516
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Making sure his radio was on he slowly climbed the stairs.

517
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,200
He said it was terrifying because the way they'd been stigmatized.

518
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680
He wasn't really sure what was going to happen to him.

519
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,240
He joked that half of him expected to be teleported to some other dimension and the other half

520
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440
was watching for a UFO to come swooping down.

521
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760
But he got to the top with little event and he stood there looking around.

522
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,960
But he said the longer he stood on the top step the more he felt like he was doing something

523
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,440
very very wrong.

524
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,840
He described it as feeling as the feeling you get if you were in a part of the government

525
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040
building you have no business being in.

526
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,400
As if someone was going to come and arrest you or shoot you in the back of the head at

527
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,400
any second.

528
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,120
He tried to brush it off but the feeling got stronger and stronger and that's when

529
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,920
he realized that he couldn't hear anything anymore.

530
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Sounds of the forest were gone and he couldn't hear his own breathing.

531
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,280
It was just like some kind of weird awful tinnitus but more oppressive.

532
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,080
He climbed back down and rejoined the search but didn't mention what he'd done.

533
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320
But he said the weirdest part came after.

534
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,560
His trainer was waiting back at the welcome center after the search ended that day and

535
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,640
he cornered my buddy before he could leave.

536
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,560
He said his trainer had a look of intense anger and he asked what was wrong.

537
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,040
You went up them didn't you?

538
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,320
My buddy said it wasn't phrased as a question.

539
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,160
He asked how his trainer knew.

540
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,000
The trainer just shook his head because we didn't find her.

541
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,400
The dog lost her scent.

542
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,360
My buddy asked what that had to do with anything.

543
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,720
The trainer asked how long he'd been on the stairs and my buddy said no more than a minute.

544
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,120
The trainer gave him this really awful almost dead eyed look and told him that if he ever

545
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,160
went up another set of stairs again he'd be fired.

546
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,160
Immediately.

547
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,840
The trainer walked away and I guess he's never answered any of the questions my buddy

548
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,920
has asked him about it since.

549
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Interesting.

550
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560
I like the part where he's like hey did you go up those stairs?

551
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Don't go up those stairs.

552
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,640
As far as I can put together they're tying the missing people with the stairs.

553
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Yeah.

554
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,640
In a confusing way.

555
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,400
That seems to be the logic they're coming to.

556
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Which makes me feel like they know a bit more at least in the confines of these stories.

557
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720
The higher up seem to know a bit more.

558
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Not sure how.

559
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Or how these people also aren't talking online.

560
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Yeah.

561
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Apparently this guy ends his last post with the millions that he put up with.

562
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,720
He had to stop sharing them because they knew that someone was talking and he didn't want

563
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,240
to lose his job.

564
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,720
The job's just that good.

565
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Yeah.

566
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,840
That you're willing to like cover up all these stairs that are mysteriously out there

567
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960
and hinge on finding survivors.

568
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Okay.

569
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240
I mean when you put it that way it doesn't sound too good.

570
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Another man tells something that happened to him personally when he worked as an infectious

571
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,720
disease expert from the US government healthcare agency.

572
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,960
It was the 1940s.

573
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Shortly after the famous Roswell accident and there had been cases of mutilated animals.

574
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,680
During the six months of research in the area many stairs were sighted that seemed to move

575
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,080
at night where they had previously been an area appeared to be burned.

576
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Next story.

577
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,480
In Sweden, two young men found a solitary ladder and decided to climb it.

578
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000
I guess it takes the form of ladders as well.

579
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Those are stairs.

580
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Just straight up and down.

581
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Yeah, they're a very simplified ladder.

582
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Yeah.

583
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,560
Or sorry, a very simplified stair.

584
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,560
Concepts still apply.

585
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,560
It does.

586
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,560
One of them felt his shoulder touched and turned thinking it was his companion.

587
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
But the ladder was too far away to have touched him.

588
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440
The touch, he says, was icy.

589
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,680
Another story tells of a woman who was on the ladder who fell suddenly.

590
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Dead.

591
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,320
The report spoke of a brain aneurysm.

592
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Well, that was short and sweet.

593
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,200
I mean, that one would have just got caught up with the, like, thousands of people every

594
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320
year that die falling off ladders.

595
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,800
So I can see how easy it is to cover those up.

596
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160
From a brain aneurysm.

597
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,040
User Taylor and Shazam.

598
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,560
That's not you, is it?

599
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880
No, I refuse to admit.

600
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Taylor and Shazam.

601
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,800
In Michigan, the epicenter of the stairs in the woods wrote, that's not true.

602
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960
I just said that would be funny.

603
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Don't take that as truth, please.

604
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Anyhow, this person wrote, an hour east of iron wood, there was a clearing in the forest

605
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,000
that has stairs.

606
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,840
I was hiking and exploring with my cousins and we stumbled on a clearing about half a

607
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,200
football field long.

608
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Had a few staircases, but not against trees, just standing in the open.

609
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240
They looked like stairs from a normal suburban home.

610
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Kind of old though, the older cousin decided to navigate.

611
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640
I'm sure he means his older cousin.

612
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Not the older cousin.

613
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Surely when you're telling a story, you can relate those relationships properly.

614
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,600
I would hope.

615
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,600
You would hope.

616
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Yeah, this is true.

617
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
He walked to the stairs to see how they were being held up.

618
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Couldn't find anything which weirded him out.

619
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,880
The older cousin that is.

620
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,120
He made us all leave.

621
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,160
Grass didn't grow near the stairs either.

622
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Oh, that's the end of Michigan's story.

623
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,720
That was a pretty short story.

624
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,400
I have this setup weird.

625
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Norwegian Redditor, Holy Shit Space says they have come across staircases too and it scared

626
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,880
them silly.

627
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040
I made an account just to post this comment.

628
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,200
He says a few months back while visiting Gramps.

629
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
That's right.

630
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,360
I mean, it checks out this.

631
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,800
This guy gets his relationships right in Lillis and Southern Norway.

632
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,800
We went hiking.

633
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Nothing big, just a walk in a picnic in some woods with us.

634
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,600
We're my niece and nephew who were both quite young.

635
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,960
So I joined them and hide and seek while the proper grownups had coffee and whatnot.

636
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Me and my nephew were first to hide, but we split up and I ran alone quite a ways into

637
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,480
a thicket of woods and I found a staircase.

638
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Nothing remarkable.

639
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Riddled with moss and made from what looked like really old concrete with large pebbles

640
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,680
of rocks in it.

641
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,320
It didn't really seem out of place at the time, but thinking back, anyway, I decided

642
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,640
it was fit for a hiding place, but only after a few seconds of squatting behind it, I got

643
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,640
up and stepped back.

644
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880
I couldn't shake the feeling that I really shouldn't be anywhere near it.

645
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,800
I suddenly had this feeling of being severely unwelcome and that I should get as far away

646
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,040
from it as possible.

647
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,440
So I to my family and didn't look back at it.

648
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Thinking about it now, it still gives me some sort of, I don't know, twisted wrong feeling.

649
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,040
And that, that's it.

650
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,440
That's my staircase in the woods.

651
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Okay.

652
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Yeah, I'm going to say I like the stories.

653
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,720
I definitely do.

654
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,400
I feel like it's more, everything now is in comparison to the mudflug for me as like the

655
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,680
absolute bare minimum you need for a fun conspiracy.

656
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Yeah.

657
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:16,120
And it requires too much buy-in from quote higher ups who know everything, but like do

658
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
not spill these secrets ever.

659
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
And supposedly this is everywhere in the world.

660
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,960
So it would have to have gotten out at some point.

661
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,960
You're right.

662
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Or this to be like a fully fledged thing that's real, but it's a fun story nonetheless.

663
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,720
I do want to be on board with it because first of all, it has all the factors that I love.

664
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,440
The things with which have no business being in the place that they are.

665
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Black eyed individuals, which we still need to do in episode one.

666
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Black eyed no-face individuals.

667
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,360
It's tied to the strange missing people, which I love.

668
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:55,760
But you know, the fact that it was originally, and the guy makes like a very detailed post.

669
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Like he put effort into this.

670
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Almost like he wrote a story.

671
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,800
He knew what the people wanted.

672
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,480
And I think he gave it to him, especially that it comes from the no sleep Reddit, which

673
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,280
is renowned for being made and stuff.

674
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,280
I love the story.

675
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040
I've seen it pop up a few times.

676
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
I was like, that seems like a good spooky thing.

677
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,000
Let's take a look at it.

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,120
And I, you know, I thought I had some good stories that might give some credence to the

679
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920
fact that it could be a thing.

680
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,400
Turns out I didn't.

681
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,360
And I don't feel like I even get convinced of it myself by the end of this, but make

682
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,560
your own decisions.

683
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,240
Don't listen to what I have to say.

684
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:34,240
Yeah.

685
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,480
I mean, we can tell you what to do.

686
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,400
But again, we can't go on record to say we're not a cult because that just makes you a cult.

687
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,840
And cults tell you what to do.

688
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,600
So we're not telling you what to do.

689
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Status unknown journey to the fringe.

690
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Status not stated.

691
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Yeah.

692
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Okay.

693
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,960
Let's see.

694
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,960
It's not unknown.

695
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,960
It's not stated.

696
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Yeah.

697
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,960
No, that sounds better.

698
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,080
With that non statement statement, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.

699
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,320
We are Journey to the Fringe.

700
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,400
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701
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,960
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702
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:12,040
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704
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705
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706
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707
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708
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:39,400
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709
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