1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,840 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on our journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,440 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, the place where mainstream topics go to get 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,520 their freak on. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,680 We are your purveyors of metaphorical filth, Taylor and Chussy, and today we are going 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,640 to be going back to one of those plastics that had terrible audio. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,560 And I think this is very timely and in a leap year nonetheless too. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,320 So Chelsie, we are once again going to be looking at the Phantom Time Hypothesis. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,520 I don't know how much of this episode you remember. 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,360 I think it's a fun episode and I'm hoping we can actually hear it very well this time 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,360 around. 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Fingers are crossed. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Fingers are crossed. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Because you never know. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,440 But yeah, I think this is a great topic, especially when we're hitting this time of year. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,320 That is the original start of the year. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,320 It has been suggested that April Fools originates because in the Middle Ages New Year's Day 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,480 was celebrated in Europe on March 25th, which would be the start of the actual year. 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,980 That's the spring solstice, the refresh, that's when the year starts. 19 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:14,760 With a holiday that in some areas of France specifically ended on April 1st. 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Those who celebrated New Year's Eve on January 1st made fun of those who celebrated on the 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,560 other date by the invention of April Fools Day. 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 It's funny that it became kind of like a cultural acceptance of making fun of people 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,240 to push them into the original peer pressure, I guess. 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,440 I can get behind that. 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Yeah. 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,120 And instead of it being wild mushrooms that they found in the forest, it was just pushing 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,160 them to use a different calendar, which picks a very arbitrary day I might add to celebrate 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,640 its start of the year on. 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,480 It's nothing special happens on January 1st. 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Maybe after Christmas? 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,160 The whole point is like the winter solstice is December 21st. 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,800 So like why 10 days after the winter solstice? 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Just seems kind of arbitrary. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,080 I wonder who we would ask answers to get answers that was weird. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Ask it into the void. 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,080 The void? 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Yeah. 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,760 But who answers back? 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,840 You might get an echo. 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,840 An echo? 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Yes. 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:14,560 So the use of January 1st as a New Year's Day became common in Europe around the mid-16th 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:21,560 century, and that date was not adopted officially until 1564 by the Edict of Roussillon, which 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,560 is of course impeccable French around here, when France switched from the Julian calendar 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 to the Gregorian calendar as called for during the Council of Trent in 1563. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Now, Chelsea, I think it's important at this point where we get into a little bit of that 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,560 complicated math. 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Do you remember how long an astronomical year is? 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,560 I think you can take a guess, can't you? 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Because we have this whole like calendar thing in place. 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, we are right. 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Now that you put it that way, I just heard math and I was like nope. 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Not really math at this point. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,000 How long is a year? 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 365? 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 A calendar is usually 365, you are correct. 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Oh good, I got it right. 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 This year is 366. 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:08,400 So most people would say an astronomical year is 365.25 because every four it adds one. 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Yeah, that's what I meant. 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Yeah. 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,760 But that's not actually how it works. 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,760 It did under the Julian calendar, which was introduced in 45 BC. 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,720 However, an actual year is 365.24219 days. 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:31,960 And that means a difference of 11 minutes per year between 365.25 and that calendar. 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,080 We're losing or gaining that per year? 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,600 We have a slightly longer year by 11 minutes, with that's our the 0.25 year. 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Okay, how do we catch it? 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,120 That's actually, it seems weird. 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Like 11 minutes isn't that long, but over a thousand years, 11 minutes will add up to 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,480 a lot and it'll completely throw off all of our seasons based on calendars. 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:02,040 This calendar, the Julian calendar, falls a day behind an astronomical year every 128 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,040 years. 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Over a millennium, that's going to be eight days that you're going to fall off. 75 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,840 It will always accumulate that way unless you're actively taking steps to change your 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,960 calendar. 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,960 And we haven't. 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Well we haven't. 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Don't remember ever adjusting by 11 minutes. 80 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,520 You got to remember that our calendar isn't actually 365.25. 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,800 The Gregorian calendar is a leap year every four years. 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Unless it's divisible by 100, then we take out the leap year. 83 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Unless it's also divisible by 400, in which case we add in the leap. 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,680 The 2100 will not be a leap year, but 2000 was. 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Okay, that is complicated. 86 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:48,600 But that's why, like I said, it's not 365.25, it's 365.24219 days. 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,840 So that's where we get all those extra decimals. 88 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,840 So we adjust for this. 89 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:59,400 Our calendars always take it into account. 90 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,800 We don't need to think about it. 91 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Our phones got it on them already. 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,480 It's dictated from above. 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Great. 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,480 I love that. 95 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,760 I wouldn't age to be alive. 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,800 I know because, you know, daylight savings would be the death of all of us if we had 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:13,800 it. 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Yes, it would. 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Great. 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Now, with this all, it's this is one more thing I need to talk about. 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:25,640 And that is the date of Easter, which is basically one of our only holidays that isn't necessarily 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,960 calendar based. 103 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,720 It's actually lunar based because Easter is a function of the date of the spring equinox 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,120 the Sunday after the ecclesiastical full moon on or after March 21st, which was adopted 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,480 as an approximation of the March equinox. 106 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,600 European scholars have been well aware of the calendar drift since the early medieval 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,600 period. 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,960 And that is something that people wanted to make sure is Easter is always falling in 109 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,960 this period. 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,560 It has to do a lot with Passover, I believe, for the Jewish calendar as well. 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,000 The Gregorian calendar comes along and he says, wait, we're getting way out of hand 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 here. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000 We need to change the calendar. 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,800 This Julian calendar, we're losing a day every 128 years. 115 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,800 We need to fix this. 116 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,800 How do they find that out? 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,800 I wonder. 118 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,520 We've been looking at the sky for a long time. 119 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,120 We're able to figure shit out like this. 120 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,240 I think it's the easiest way to explain it. 121 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Okay, I can accept that. 122 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:22,640 The Gregorian reform shortened the average calendar year by.0075 days to 365.2425 based 123 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,520 on those calculations we talked about, which stopped the drift of the calendar with respect 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,520 to the equinoxes. 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Now, it's not perfect. 126 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,800 We still lose about 20 seconds per year with this new calendar, but that's a lot less than 127 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,800 11 minutes. 128 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,040 Yeah, I guess. 129 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,320 And the error accumulated over the 13th century since the Council of Nicea, where the Julian 130 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,520 calendar was put into place, was corrected by a deletion of 10 days from the calendar. 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,120 The Julian calendar day, Thursday, October 4th, 1582 was followed by the first day of 132 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,680 the Gregorian calendar, Friday, October 15th, 1582. 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,840 The cycle of the weekday was not affected. 134 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,520 I know I should have been taking that in. 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,680 October 4th to October 15th, the next day. 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,280 And it's still the same year, right? 137 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:07,280 Same year, yeah. 138 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,280 Yeah, it was totally listening to you. 139 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:13,800 So that's, yeah, it's a bunch of nerd stuff with calendars. 140 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 There's not many calendar nerds anymore, but back in the day, boy, were there tons of calendar 141 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,560 nerds. 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Can I just quickly ask, I'm not sure if you know, why is the Pope in Church of the calendar? 143 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Basically the calendar is in place because we need to know when we have festivals, which 144 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:35,520 include Easter and Christmas, which are big in the churches. 145 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,280 There's also, you know, the whole farming side of it, but basically why the church is 146 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,920 so controlling of it is because of the religious holidays. 147 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Okay. 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:48,480 And then, so he's not really in church, but he would be like all the Catholics like adopted 149 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,400 it and maybe it was just like the religion most people followed that. 150 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Oh yeah, the Catholic Church was massive at the time. 151 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Yeah, I guess it still is. 152 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Yeah. 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,040 But you know, if the new Pope actually came out and said we're using a different calendar, 154 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 probably wouldn't get as adopted as fast. 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Oh, that's true, but he does. 156 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Unless the Pope talked to, oh no, what's his name? 157 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Friar Decephir, whatever. 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,760 And he goes and talks to... 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,840 I was just going to bring up the Friar. 160 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Yeah. 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,280 If that Friar went and talked to Microsoft and Apple and just got them to change the 162 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,680 phones, like we would all just follow. 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,680 We would have no joy. 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,680 I guarantee it. 165 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,680 We would have no joy. 166 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,400 And that's just going to leave behind the Amish, which I'm going to feel bad for, but 167 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 there I don't know what's going to happen in that situation, guys. 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,280 I know A24 just coming up with a new Civil War movie in the US, and I'm guessing that 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,000 might actually be the entire story of it. 170 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Is that this Friar, I forget his name, Benati? 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,960 I think that's it, but it sounds familiar. 172 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Something like that. 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,280 I've got to assume that's the story of it, is that this Friar goes and talks to the 174 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,160 big tech companies and they says, hey, let's change the calendar up and all hell breaks 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,160 lose from there. 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,400 This is really a war between phone users and phone non-users. 177 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,680 I mean, yeah, I guess the Amish probably do follow their own calendar, right? 178 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,520 But I think they're an offshoot of Catholicism, are they not? 179 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,520 I have no friends. 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,520 I'm speculating way too much. 181 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,520 I know they're Christian. 182 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,520 I have no idea what kind. 183 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,520 This is a strange way to look at them. 184 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,240 So Chelsea, I had to give you that backstory. 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Brace yourself for this. 186 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,280 This is the true Phantom Time Hypothesis. 187 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Oh no. 188 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,600 We don't live in the year 2024. 189 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:29,720 It's actually the 1700s, 1726, I believe, to be accurate, as proposed by Haribot Illig. 190 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,240 That seems like quite the loss. 191 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Yeah, that's 300 years right there. 192 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Now this really comes up because it answers the question like a lot of people are like 193 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,840 dark ages happen. 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,520 We don't know a lot about them, but there are these things that happen. 195 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,360 But what if they actually didn't? 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 And that's why we don't know much about them. 197 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,520 It's because we just skipped 300 years. 198 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Why would we skip 300 years because of everything you just said? 199 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:58,280 So this theory comes from 1995, was revised in the year 2000, and it says between antiquity, 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:04,240 1 AD, and the Renaissance, historians count approximately 300 years too many in their chronology. 201 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,680 In other words, the Roman Emperor Augustus really lived 1700 years ago instead of the 202 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:15,880 conventional 2000 years ago as a result of the year 614-911 simply being made up. 203 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,720 Okay, does he give reason? 204 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,840 A little bit. 205 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,560 The easiest way to understand doubts about the accepted chronology of well-known history 206 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:28,520 is to seriously systematize the problems of medieval research. 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,640 This will lead us to detect a pattern which proves my thesis. 208 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,120 And this, sorry, this comes from Ulrich's writings. 209 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,240 This will lead us to detect a pattern which proves my thesis and gives reason to assume 210 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,920 that a phantom time period of approximately 300 years has been inserted between 600 AD 211 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:49,200 and 900 AD either by accident, by an misinterpretation of documents, or by deliberate falsification. 212 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,160 This period and all events are supposed to have happened therein never existed. 213 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Buildings and artifacts described in this period really belong to another period. 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,400 Art historians explain and describe artifacts and buildings of this period as anachronistic, 215 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 but they never follow up on their assessments. 216 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:10,240 One of the best examples, intensively surveyed, is the Chapel of Achaen, circa 800 AD, which 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,320 seems to come approximately 200 years too early. 218 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,200 The way of constructing an arch shown in this chapel has no predecessor. 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Arched isles are usually only in the 11th century in spare, and the construction of 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:28,440 choirs with rising arch and also rising barrel vaulting is not resumed until 200 years later 221 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,000 at the portal of Tornus. 222 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,600 The vertical steepness of the interior arches of the Achaen Chapel is more accentuated than 223 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,280 those of churches built two centuries later. 224 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:44,520 One of these is the 1094 consecrated Abbey Church of Atmarsheim, although missing some 225 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 details of the early model, nevertheless it is the best copy of Achaen. 226 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,720 However, these and many other arguments implicate that the Chapel of Achaen has to be regarded 227 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,080 as a building of the second part of the 11th century. 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Ferdosis, well known epic the Chaename, written around 1010 AD, ends in the last Persian king 229 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Yazdegerd III, who died 651 AD. 230 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:11,320 The epic tells nothing about the Islamic conquest of Persia and has no allusions to Islam at 231 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,320 all. 232 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,920 It simply skips 300 years of Islamic influence as if it had never existed. 233 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,360 And many hilltop strongholds are known in Italy and throughout southern France, as well 234 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,840 as in various parts of Achaen region and Asia Minor. 235 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,800 But although castle building began in these regions in the 7th century, none of the structures 236 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,080 built at that time have survived into the modern age. 237 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Especially the 7th century fortresses were replaced by greater and larger edifices in 238 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,880 the 10th, and more especially 11th centuries, and it is these which we see today. 239 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,880 The 10th and 11th century fortresses were built directly on the 7th century foundations, 240 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,480 with nothing of the 8th or 9th century intervening. 241 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,560 Even stranger, we find that whilst the age of castle building commenced in southern Europe 242 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,320 during the 7th century, it only began in northern Europe in the 10th. 243 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,200 And what is even worse, the boundary between the two ages of castle building is often no 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,240 more than a few kilometers apart. 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Thus for example, the first fortified hilltop sites on the southern coast of France appear 246 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,880 in the 7th century, whilst just a few kilometers away, the Perinian foothills, the first castles 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,200 appear in the 10th century. 248 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,240 This is the case for example at Lourdes, where the fortified stronghold was clearly designed 249 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,560 to guard the Perinian passes against Muslim raids in the 10th century. 250 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:29,120 Yet just a few kilometers to the west at Montseguer, a fortified stronghold also designed to guard 251 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 against Muslim raids is dated to the 7th century. 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Illeg found a document stating almost 1700 structures were built in these missing years. 253 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,400 He could not even find archaeological evidence that 97% of these structures ever even existed, 254 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,200 let alone were built in this period. 255 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Moreover the Parsis, the Zerothustra worshippers in India have been debating their own chronology 256 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,080 furiously since messengers from Iran in the 18th century told them that they made a mistake 257 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,320 in counting the years since their flight from the homeland. 258 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Modern encyclopedias vary in their assertions between the 7th and 10th century for the events. 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,960 The history of the Jews shows centuries of darkness as a discontinuity that support the 260 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,840 thesis of the Phantom Time as well. 261 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,400 One of the important modern works of Jewish history bears the descriptive title the Dark 262 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Ages, Jews in Christian Europe 711-1096. 263 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,720 Here are two quotations from this. 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:27,360 It seemed that they, the Jews, totally disappeared together with the breakdown of the Roman Empire. 265 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:33,200 However we don't find any evidence of their presence until the Carolinian period. 266 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,520 For the Carolinian period historians find only written sources whereas material sources 267 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,640 like buildings and artifacts exist just for the time of 1000 AD. 268 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,160 And for the region outside of Germany we are told, quote, of course we know from inscriptions 269 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,520 and other sources about Jewish societies and single persons in nearly all provinces of the 270 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Roman Empire. 271 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,480 And we can reasonably suppose, with or without proof, that there is in fact no district without 272 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Jews. 273 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Nevertheless there doesn't exist any evidence and only little probability that a substantial 274 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,800 number of Jews lived anywhere in the western world at this time. 275 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:10,240 The new existing stratigraphies of German towns give evidence of the Phantom Time in 276 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Frankfurt and main archaeological excavations did not find any layer for the period between 277 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,040 659-1080. 278 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Nevertheless, it has been assumed that something has been found in order to avoid empty centuries 279 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,600 which is unconceivable. 280 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Thus the absent period was construed by layers composed of waste ceramic fragments from other 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,440 locations which were spread to fill in the gap to support no one chronology. 282 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Archaeological research in ceramics encounters big problems for the projected Phantom Time. 283 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Two quotations here for this, quote, the evolution of a half century is unclear, writes Peter 284 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Vichitil in his 1991 publication about ceramics of the 8th to 13th century from settlements 285 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,360 of the main triangle and 30 years earlier Werner Harnigl had some troubles with the slow moving 286 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,240 evolution of vessel forms in the 7th, 8th, and 9th centuries at the North Sea coast. 287 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,920 It is impossible to find an order in their ceramic vessels. 288 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Even to construct a relative chronology still seems to be impossible. 289 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Therefore the ceramic experts try to solve this problem with mathematical statistical 290 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,720 methods. 291 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,800 The medievalists is confronted with a dangerous and confusing host of false documents and 292 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,700 this was the reason for organizing the conference. 293 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:18,880 This is with regards to the Gregorian Conference. 294 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,760 The Bavarian State Secretary of Education, Culture Hans Meier summarized the problem and 295 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,000 nobody came to contradict him, quote, falsification of the Middle Ages, end quote, are really 296 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,840 no minor subject for medievalists. 297 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,200 In this conference we treat the central problem of historical scientific research, the question 298 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,040 for authenticity of the documents and even more the concept of truth in an important 299 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,800 period of history of mankind. 300 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Horace Fierman, president of the Monumenta Germania Historica, emphasized a special peculiarity 301 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,280 of some of the important fake documents. 302 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,800 He demonstrated that the important fakes of the Roman Catholic Church have an anticipating 303 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,040 character. 304 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,720 These documents had to wait for their great moment to come. 305 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,000 The centuries after being produced, these fakes were integrated into the framework of 306 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,760 the clerical and laical world. 307 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,480 This is from Fierman, 1988, page 90. 308 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Fierman's opinion was that in the first place, the environment must exist before a fake can 309 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,080 be effective. 310 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,580 We were shown fakes from preceding centuries. 311 00:17:12,580 --> 00:17:17,120 We divined chronological distortions, therefore we inspected the calendar calculations mentioned 312 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,880 above with the results of a time error amounting to three centuries. 313 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Then we looked for gaps in special reports and publications, also for periods of stagnation 314 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,040 or strange events repeating in similar manners after approximately 300 years. 315 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,560 I only refer to some of these great numbers of puzzles, a gap in the history of buildings 316 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,680 in Constantinople's, a gap in the doctrine of faith, especially in the gap of evolution 317 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:45,920 in theory and meaning of purgatory, a 300 year reluctant introduction of farming techniques, 318 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,000 and of war techniques, a gap in mosaic art, and a repeated beginning of the German orthography. 319 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,120 The puzzles historiography led the way, pointing out again and again, the gap which we soon 320 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,800 termed phantom time. 321 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,200 Now Chelsea, this probably is where we get to the question I guarantee you have right 322 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,200 now. 323 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Why the hell are you just making up 300 years? 324 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,480 Yeah. 325 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,720 Is it because of the 11 minutes? 326 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,040 This is where we get to it. 327 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,000 But who could have an interest in faking so many documents and why did the fakers need 328 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,080 a phantom time of 300 years? 329 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,120 We developed two hypotheses which basically don't contradict. 330 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:24,800 Hypothesi one, Otto the third didn't live accidentally around the year 1000 AD. 331 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,720 He himself made this date. 332 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,480 He wanted to reign in this year because this suited his understanding of Christian millennialism. 333 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:37,160 He defined this date with the help of his famous and well-versed friend Gerbert de Roulac. 334 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,640 Gerbert pulp Sylvester II, in reality they lived approximately 700 years after the birth 335 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,120 of Jesus. 336 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:48,960 So basically a ruler wanted to live in the year 1000, which is a very historically important 337 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,960 year. 338 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,840 In reality they lived approximately 700 years after the birth of Jesus Christ, but never 339 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,720 until then had the years been reckoned after Christ. 340 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Perhaps unaware of their error and without intending to falsify, they defined one special 341 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,160 year as 1000 AD. 342 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Consequently chroniclers had to invent 300 years of history to fill up the empty period. 343 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,200 What a great occasion for dynasties and kings. 344 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,720 You can design the planned future as a construct of the past. 345 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,720 And this apparently happened. 346 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,040 Otto the third construed Charlemagne as the model hero. 347 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,560 He himself wanted to be. 348 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Supposedly he sketched Charlemagne's history only a bit, or it wasn't even him but the 349 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,040 generations after him who lined up a whole full life picture. 350 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Especially the clergy hoped to get advantage in its confrontation with the emperors which 351 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,920 had started in the 11th century. 352 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,440 Hypothesis 2, Constantine the 7th of Byzantium, organized a complete rewriting the whole Byzantium 353 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:46,160 history and the famous German Byzantianist Peter Schreiner has demonstrated how officially 354 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,960 his historiography interprets this process. 355 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Beginning in the year 835 AD, monks rewrote piece by piece all texts which have been written 356 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,360 in Greek in the new form of writing, hence called meniscula. 357 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:02,000 Schreiner postulates that each text was produced only once and then the originals were destroyed. 358 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,880 This means that all existing texts of the then leading culture nation have been changed 359 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,280 or rewritten completely in new script in the lifetime of two generations or even faster 360 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,040 and have been well invented we suppose. 361 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,440 It is important to explain the motivation of the emperor Constantine the 7th. 362 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,200 I only want to demonstrate that an action of rewriting and faking like this has happened. 363 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,560 If it could happen in Byzantium, it might have happened at any other place too. 364 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Moreover, the Ophanu, mother of Otto the 3rd, came from Byzantium and was a niece of emperor 365 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,200 Demyskis, a descendant of the same dynasty as Constantine the 7th as to the question 366 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,800 of who faked and why there could be many speculations, it seems that in this question, surprises 367 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,760 are ahead which could create trouble for many academic institutions as well as other social 368 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,760 groups. 369 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,200 I would like to repeat that our method consists in questioning specific research, problems 370 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,120 of archaeology and historiography. 371 00:20:56,120 --> 00:21:01,440 I must emphasize that the thesis of the phantom year is one proposal for solving those problems. 372 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,920 It works surprisingly well and yields amazing results. 373 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,520 It seems that scientists today do not see the common pattern in all of these problems 374 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,120 which repeatedly appear because there exists an unexpressed and unconscious prohibition 375 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:17,600 against questioning the chronology as if it were unimpeachable. 376 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:23,560 My request therefore is this, where and how could our research work possibly join? 377 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,560 What could we do together until today our research work was done marginally? 378 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320 But from now on it enters an important stage. 379 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,200 The project has become so giant that it cannot be worked out by a few people with small resources, 380 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,520 support from official institutions has become necessary so that we can continue our work 381 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,120 at the edge of specialty. 382 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:45,280 So Chelsea, that is the phantom time hypothesis. 383 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,280 There were 300 years which don't seem to be historically supported to have existed in 384 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,800 Europe because it's just funny, nothing seems to happen during it. 385 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,880 Yeah, I feel like I understand it a lot better this time around. 386 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:04,640 Not sure why, but I do have some things to say that just miraculously just left my head. 387 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,920 That makes sense. 388 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,920 It does. 389 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,680 The Dark Ages seem like nothing seems to happen, so it makes a lot of sense. 390 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,160 Yeah, and it almost seems like an Occam's razor. 391 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,160 Like the simplest answer. 392 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,400 Yeah, the simplest answer, it really just seems to be the simplest answer. 393 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,240 It makes sense, it's simple. 394 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,760 What I don't get is when they change the calendar, they're like, okay, we're moving 10 years, 395 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,760 it's documented. 396 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,760 10 days. 397 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,440 10 days, of course. 398 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,080 But why wouldn't they document this? 399 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 And the other part of it too, I didn't mention at this point yet. 400 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,960 I thought I had, I haven't looked over the script apparently enough in the year and a 401 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080 half since we've done, or the two years since we've done this episode. 402 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,000 It was actually weird that they picked 10 days because it should have been a different number, 403 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,240 based on it being 128 years to one day. 404 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,640 That would mean that there are 13 days out of line. 405 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,160 So if you take those three days away, that's 300 years. 406 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,280 Because remember, this happened in the 1500s, they moved it 10 days, and it's 128 years 407 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,280 per day. 408 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,960 So if we just times that by 10, it would be the year 1280 would be 10 days. 409 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Like what? 410 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,960 That's crazy. 411 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,000 So it seems weird that they picked that amount as if they knew that we were 300 years off. 412 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,320 That is weird. 413 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Maybe it's in the Vatican Museum in the vaults. 414 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Yeah, in the archives. 415 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:34,160 The other thing is, I think it's interesting that things fall in and out of 300 years that 416 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,560 are close by to each other, almost as if they didn't get the memo quite in time. 417 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Because that's how things would travel. 418 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,360 It's not like they send an email and like CC everybody in on it. 419 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:50,080 Yeah, they would have to go like word would have to spread like, hey, just an FYI. 420 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,800 And yeah, Europe's a pretty big region for the whole of Europe to have this weird 300 421 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,120 year window that you can't see what's going on, or it just seems super vague what's going 422 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,120 on. 423 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,800 It's a very fun hypothesis. 424 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,520 And had it happened say in the 1800s, boom, mud flood, you're covered. 425 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,520 This is perfect. 426 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,880 But unfortunately, I just need to say this does not work at all with mud flood because 427 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:17,840 this happens 300 years before the proposed mud flood. 428 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,680 So the Tartarians would have been well around during this entire thing. 429 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,240 Unless they're the ones who kept the normal calendar and said, you guys are all stupid. 430 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,640 These 300 years are made up. 431 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,640 So it took Europe 300 years to accumulate all this power to flood them out. 432 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Finally. 433 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Yeah, we're just helping out the mud flitters right now. 434 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,160 If they could have just picked 1500 when the mud flood happened, that would have been great, 435 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:47,720 but it doesn't make any sense because this isn't when the cities were built. 436 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,840 It's a fun theory. 437 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,160 I like it a lot. 438 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,680 It seems to make sense. 439 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,600 And it's being proposed by people who actually seem to understand the archaeology at least 440 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,600 of that time. 441 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,600 Correct? 442 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,600 Like it seems fun. 443 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,600 It's pretty cool. 444 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,600 I really like it. 445 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,240 I can really wrap my head around it this time. 446 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Last time I got very confused. 447 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Yeah, I remember that. 448 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,680 But I'm understanding it this time around. 449 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840 From here, though, Chelsea, unfortunately, we're going to talk about the criticism's 450 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,560 phantom time hypothesis has received since it was first proposed. 451 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,800 The biggest one is simply that adding three centuries to European history makes it disagree 452 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,880 with other historical regions. 453 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Like you know, there's the Islamic expansion throughout the Middle East, which would have 454 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,840 been happening during that time. 455 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840 There's the Tang dynasty in China that would have been happening during this time. 456 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,680 We don't see any discrepancy. 457 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,960 The histories wouldn't line up anymore if we just deleted 300 years from our history 458 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,960 of those regions. 459 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Yeah. 460 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,760 And it's basically saying like this is a very Western oriented theory. 461 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440 You can't just delete 300 years from the entire world. 462 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,760 The rest of the world seems to have a natural build up throughout that is consistent and 463 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,760 trackable. 464 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,360 So if we just delete 300 years, then all the rest of the world has confusing problems 465 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:00,360 with their history. 466 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,600 OK, that didn't make sense to me for a second. 467 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,920 But yeah, that does make sense. 468 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,920 Yeah. 469 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,800 What's going on in Europe then? 470 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Basically, famine. 471 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,800 It was dark. 472 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Like the sun didn't shine. 473 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,600 I wouldn't say the sun was completely blotted out, but it is considered a cold period and 474 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,280 crops didn't grow as well in Europe during that time. 475 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,040 So it's hard to be building up history when you're trying to just find food. 476 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,040 OK, sure. 477 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,720 The next part of it, which actually I think this throws the biggest wrench in the cogs 478 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:34,120 for this theory, ancient astronomy, which we know all of our like the challenges are 479 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,120 all built off astronomy. 480 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,440 We've been doing astronomy for a very long time. 481 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680 We've been tracking a lot of things. 482 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,400 Observations in ancient astronomy, especially those cited prior to 600 AD, agree with the 483 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,440 usual chronology and not with the phantom time hypothesis. 484 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,480 Besides several others that are perhaps too vague to disprove the phantom time hypothesis, 485 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200 two in particular are dated with enough precision to question this hypothesis. 486 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:04,320 Then Pliny the Elder in 59 AD and Fodius in 418 AD both make astronomical observations, 487 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,280 which we can look at the sky, basically zoom it back to that year and say, OK, it makes 488 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,280 sense. 489 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,120 This was done exactly at this time. 490 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,320 We can't do that if we delete 300 years. 491 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Basically, if you see a solar eclipse, we can go back in time based on our understanding 492 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,680 of astronomical movements to say when that happened. 493 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,560 But if we delete 300 years, it doesn't make any sense anymore. 494 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:33,680 OK, so based on astrology, astronomy, astronomy, those 300 years still have. 495 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,680 We're there. 496 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Yes, because it doesn't make any sense from observations that we see prior to those 300 497 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,760 years to calculate it out. 498 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,760 That's too bad. 499 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,760 Yeah. 500 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,880 In addition, observations during the Tang Dynasty in China and Haley's Comet, for example, 501 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,720 are consistent with our current astronomy with no phantom time added. 502 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,480 You know, because this is disappointing. 503 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Haley's Comet comes around every so many years, and if you delete 300 years and not 504 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,640 like a perfect cycle of Haley's Comet, then you're going to have some. 505 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,440 They've got us there with Haley's Comet, I think. 506 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,440 Comet. 507 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,440 Dynamech. 508 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Comet. 509 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,440 Full with English today. 510 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Archeological remains in dating methods such as dendocrinology, which is tree ring dating. 511 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Also refute rather than support phantom time hypothesis. 512 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280 This thing where I'm talking about how it should have been 13 days or something like 513 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,640 that instead of 10 days added to the calendar. 514 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,560 The Gregorian reform was never actually purported to bring the calendar in line with the Julian 515 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,000 calendar as it had existed at the time of the institution in 45 BC, but as it had existed 516 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,360 in 325 AD, the year the Council of Nicaea, which had established a method for determining 517 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,840 the date of Easter Sunday by fixing the vernal equinox on March 21st in the Julian calendar. 518 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,760 By 1582, the astronomical equinox was occurring on March 10th in the Julian calendar, but 519 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Easter was still being calculated from a nominal equinox on March 21st. 520 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,320 In 45 BC, the astronomical vernal equinox took place on March 23rd. 521 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,560 It looks missing three centuries, thus corresponding to the 369 years between the institution of 522 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,600 the Julian calendar in 45 and fixing it in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. 523 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,600 So there's not really 300 missing years because we didn't just set the date at zero. 524 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,560 That's not when the date actually happened. 525 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,600 It's not very disappointing. 526 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,600 I know. 527 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,840 And the last point here is if Charlemagne and the Carolingian dynasty were fabricated, 528 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,800 there would have to be a corresponding fabrication of history for the rest of Europe, including 529 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,240 the Anglo-Saxon England, the Papacy, the Byzantine Empire. 530 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,360 The Phantom Time Pipe period also encompasses the life of Muhammad and the Islamic expansion 531 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,040 into the areas of the former Western Roman Empire, including the conquest of Visigothic 532 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Iberia. 533 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,840 And the history too would have to be forged or drastically misdained. 534 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,520 It would also have to be reconciled with the history of the Tongs in China and its contact 535 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280 with the Islamic world, such as the Battle of Talas. 536 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,320 The other thing too, just like they're talking about there, you actually need a whole lot 537 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,600 of people working together to fabricate 300 years. 538 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Because it's not just Italy's calendar doesn't add up. 539 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,560 It's all of Europe. 540 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,520 So you need people in Italy, Sweden, Britain, France, Germany, all to be making up this 541 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,640 history. 542 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Having a degree at a time where communication between these regions wasn't exactly great. 543 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,240 There's no cables laid yet. 544 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 I did make that point. 545 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,120 They're just waiting on the marathon runner to go give them word. 546 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,120 Maybe the horse boys. 547 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Change the calendar 300 years. 548 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Yep, the first and most accurate game of telephone ever played. 549 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,800 I was fully for the Phantom Time Theory. 550 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,240 It's a great hypothesis. 551 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,240 I love it. 552 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,400 It's going from the mud-flood hypothesis to the Phantom Time hypothesis. 553 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,200 They're night and day in their reasoning. 554 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,920 But like, it works. 555 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720 But it doesn't work. 556 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,520 From a European perspective, it works. 557 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520 And ignoring everything else. 558 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Like what the fuck is going on in Europe during that time? 559 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,440 The Dark Ages. 560 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,840 Okay, that's all I got. 561 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840 But yeah, that's the episode. 562 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,760 I hope Chelsea, anything you want to say before we end? 563 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,600 I've been saying everything that I needed to say as I go, as I usually do. 564 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,000 As I save it, but no, I quite enjoyed this time around. 565 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 I feel a lot less confused and disappointed. 566 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,280 I personally am all for us just mentally living our best life in the 1700s and just bringing 567 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920 back those fashion statements. 568 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,960 If we all wanted to just go back to the 1700s that way, I'm all for it. 569 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Yeah, that would be nice if we couldn't do that. 570 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,360 I'm talking high collars, corsets, and like five layers of dress for women. 571 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,200 And I wonder what the hairstyles of the... 572 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Do we get to go back to remember the guy with the nice facial hair that was from the mudwudge? 573 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Mudwudge? 574 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880 I don't think we've covered the mudwudge. 575 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Oh, it's a call. 576 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Remember the guy with the nice mustache? 577 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,960 I do, but that's the 1800s. 578 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,440 We got 100 years to go till then. 579 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,280 I shouldn't have even brought it up. 580 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,000 I can't remember anything about it. 581 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Anyhow, we are here fully advocating for you to live your best 1700s life you can. 582 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120 But in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 583 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,120 We are Journey to the Fringe. 584 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 585 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Bye. 586 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Thank you for listening to Journey to the Fringe. 587 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,520 If you have liked what you have listened to, please like, share, subscribe, or follow 588 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800 depending on what venue you are listening to us through. 589 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,960 Also please, if possible, leave a five 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