1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,000 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where dreams come true. 3 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,060 Not exciting dreams, but dreams nonetheless. 4 00:00:25,060 --> 00:00:30,400 We are your hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today Chelsea has an episode for us, and I 5 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,800 have no idea at all what it is, so I'm just gonna- 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,400 That's not a new mail, that's just a part of every intro. 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Yeah. 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Today I had a hankering from some- dammit. 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Today I had a hankering for some haunted objects, so haunted objects is what I get. 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,280 If I were just a name off the top of my head, a few haunted objects, I would start with 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Annabelle, Rigidy and all. 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,160 I'd like to hear from you what you would name as the most haunted object you know. 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Yeah, it's definitely Dolls. 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Dolls are the biggest one. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Yeah. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,120 I don't know, do houses count as haunted objects? 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Yeeeeeeeah. 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,680 Is a house an object? 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,680 I think so. 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Like it's tangible. 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,880 I never did define what a haunted object was in this episode, so. 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,880 I guess- 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,960 That really reminds me too of- for- it was an episode you did with the Japanese idea 24 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,600 that something comes to life after like a hundred years. 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Yeah. 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,160 That's really what makes you think- but yeah Annabelle's probably the- sorry, to bring 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,840 it right back to your actual episode. 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,320 Annabelle, definitely Annabelle. 29 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,840 I almost took the bait, I almost kept going on that one. 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Yeah, Annabelle, Robert the Haunted Doll, for sure, he's definitely really haunted that 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,600 I hear about. 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,840 And lamps. 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,960 The Jin love them, I guess, I think. 34 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:49,440 And I think that just about does it for haunted objects I may know of. 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,440 So forget about those. 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,440 That was a short episode. 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,440 No, okay, there's more. 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Okay, no, it's not gonna end, I guess. 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,640 I could keep going. 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Okay. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,560 Here at Journey to the Fringe, we're here for the things that I don't know, and you don't 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,320 know, and maybe you the listeners don't know. 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,520 So down with the mainstream, we're going with the things that we want to find out about, 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,920 not that we already know about. 45 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:16,680 So if there is one thing that during this research that I learned as a takeaway, it's 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,120 that there are a handful of things that are just scientifically going to be more haunted 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,360 than other things. 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:29,800 So that's paintings, jewels, dolls, and mummies, which can also be a lot of those things. 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Yeah, a lot of those things I say are cursed than haunted. 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,760 So in the Venn diagram of haunted versus cursed, you would definitely get some crossover in 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,680 the like middle of the, I don't know what that's called scientifically, for sure, but 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,160 you get some cross. 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,320 There might have been something else. 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,640 Chairs. 55 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,320 Chairs are fucking haunted too. 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,800 Okay, so let's just talk about some haunted things you may or may not know. 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 You may or may not know that was in English. 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,080 First up, the anguished man. 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,600 It's a painting if you want to Google it. 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Take a look, but don't look too close. 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,600 It might haunt you. 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,600 That's not a print. 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Wait, sorry, are pictures of pictures haunted or is it just the original picture? 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Probably just the original. 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,600 It's spooky though, so just brace yourself. 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,800 I'm just warning you, don't be startled. 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,760 The anguished man is a painting created by an unknown artist. 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,680 I'm not sure how we finish off this portion with it being unknown, but here we are. 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:31,080 The owner of the painting, Sean Robinson from Cumbria, England, claims to have inherited 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,840 the painting from his grandmother, who told him that the artist who created the painting 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,440 had mixed his own blood into the paint and then died by suicide soon after finishing 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,440 the work. 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Quite the relic to pass down through generations. 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,840 The painting has been characterized as being supposedly haunted. 75 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Thank God. 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,840 This is haunted. 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,520 I was getting worried it might not be. 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Robinson uploaded videos of the painting to his YouTube channel in 2010 and what he claims 79 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,360 to have heard crying and moaning noises in his house and to have once seen the figure 80 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,680 of a man. 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Maybe from the painting. 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,320 In 2016, rights were required to make a film based on the story of the painting and I'm 83 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,800 not sure what film that is and that's all I have. 84 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,600 What do you think of the painting? 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,600 It is a creepy painting. 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,200 I agree with that. 87 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Is he the only one who's apparently like said it's haunted? 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Yes. 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Has anybody else like given like, oh no, I heard crying too when I was in like the vicinity 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 of it. 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,720 No. 92 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Except for my research. 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Okay. 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,960 And I'm seeing actually that they sold the rights to the movie in 2016. 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,960 What's the movie? 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,560 So I don't think it's actually ever come out. 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Oh, it's just the rights were sold. 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,920 Is this like you're unloading in Las Vegas. 99 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 He's just going to sell the race to everyone for money. 100 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Maybe. 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Apparently there is also Wikipedia article on body fluids in art. 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Yes. 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,760 Which I don't really want to read. 104 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,840 I didn't want to click on it. 105 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:58,840 Nope. 106 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:03,520 I felt like this was as far as I wanted to go with it. 107 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,840 Yeah, it is. 108 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:05,840 It is creepy. 109 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,440 It's almost like a skinless man screaming. 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,280 He looks like he's on fire and his skin is melted off. 111 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:12,280 Yeah. 112 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,800 And he's screaming or his mouth is just open. 113 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,800 It actually would be pretty easy to replicate to. 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,280 It's not that high of quality. 115 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,960 Oh no, there's blood in the paint. 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:27,080 So yeah, I mean, if anybody just wants to sell movie rights, I think it's a very lucrative 117 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,720 thing to look into just, you know, claiming a painting is haunted. 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Yeah. 119 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Just make sure it's creepy. 120 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,920 You know, from this recording session today, I'm coming away with a lot of different career 121 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,920 ideas. 122 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Yeah. 123 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Okay. 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,260 So let's talk about Carl Pruitt's grave. 125 00:05:42,260 --> 00:05:46,440 This haunted object comes with a warning and I'm just going to get it right out of the 126 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,280 way first just in case I can save anyone a haunting. 127 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:54,280 A warning is don't deface any tombstones that bear the name Carl Pruitt. 128 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:58,800 So if you happen to be listening right now and you have your hand in the air ready to 129 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,520 deface Carl Pruitt's tombstone, just put it down and hear me out. 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,520 And perhaps just move to a tombstone next to it if you really must deface a tombstone. 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,480 If that's what you're out to do tonight, I'm going to tell you the story now. 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,480 Listen and then act. 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,480 Okay. 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,600 In Kentucky in the late 1930s, a carpenter named Carl Pruitt reportedly walked in on 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,080 his wife and I don't know why this is in another language and I don't know what language 136 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,080 it is. 137 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Play grante delicito delicto delicto. 138 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,720 Let me Google that with another man. 139 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,960 I assume that means in dispose. 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,480 I found another source that says Carl Pruitt returned home from work in 1938 to find his 141 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 wife in bed with another man. 142 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Okay. 143 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,520 In play grant, delicto is Latin for in blazing offense. 144 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Huh. 145 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Well, that's very fancy. 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,320 With another man. 147 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Okay. 148 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Wife. 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,840 Pruitt strangled her to death with a chain before taking his own life. 150 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:02,360 After he was buried far from his wife, some kids are said to have noticed what looked 151 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,280 like the outline of a chain on Pruitt's tombstone. 152 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,280 How did he die? 153 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:07,280 I don't know. 154 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:08,280 Was he hanged? 155 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:09,920 Oh, he took his own life. 156 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Sorry, that was just me. 157 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Yeah. 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Okay. 159 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,640 One kid chucked a rock at it only to be strangled to death on his ride home when his bicycle 160 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,640 chain got dislodged from its track and wrapped around his neck. 161 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 How the hell does that happen? 162 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,880 I want to see the, oh, what's the name of that movie? 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,480 The horror series where it's like death is coming for them because they were on that 164 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,160 airplane that they should have died in. 165 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Final destination. 166 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,160 Yeah. 167 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Yeah. 168 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,160 I would love to see. 169 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,160 That is a final destination. 170 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Yeah. 171 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,320 After the boys mom took an axe to the tombstone. 172 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,400 This is really escalating. 173 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:55,240 She ended up strangled by her clothesline and the tombstone appeared mysteriously undamaged. 174 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:01,560 A farmer who shot at the tombstone accidentally spooked his horse and got strangled by the 175 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,840 rains. 176 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,680 You might be starting to sense a theme here. 177 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Anyone who messes with Pruitt's final resting place died of strangulation. 178 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,000 That was Carl's middle name. 179 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Carl, I'll strangle you from beyond the grain Pruitt and it rings true to this day. 180 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,360 I don't know how they picked that middle name for him, but. 181 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,520 I wonder what they put on the tombstone. 182 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,720 It probably says deface me or something. 183 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Yeah. 184 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,960 It just taught him something. 185 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Do it. 186 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,800 According to legend Pruitt's vengeful spirit claimed a couple more victims before the cemetery 187 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,360 was demolished by strip miners in the late 1950s. 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,560 That also says to me that something probably happened to those miners, but I guess we'll 189 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:42,560 never know. 190 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,640 That's the mystery of Carl Pruitt. 191 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,960 I'm kind of surprised this one didn't have its rights sold. 192 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,920 I feel it would be hard to make it into a horror movie, but nonetheless. 193 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,280 No, it would be a new final destiny. 194 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:01,360 Anyhow, anyone listening that is interested in this movie, turn you to the fringe at gmail.com. 195 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,720 We will sell you the rights. 196 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,720 Exclusive rights. 197 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,320 We have the exclusive rights apparently now. 198 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,000 We definitely came up with this. 199 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Thomas Busby's chair. 200 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Thomas Busby was arrested, tried and condemned to death after he murdered his father-in-law 201 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Daniel Addie in 1702 in North Yorkshire, England. 202 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Oddie and Busby were running a coin counterfeiting business as well as other criminal enterprises, 203 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,080 and they argued about the business which ended with Busby killing Oddie. 204 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:40,920 One variation of the story has Busby cursing the chair, wilson his way to execution. 205 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,040 Whereas another says that he was drunk in the chair when he was arrested and cursed 206 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,040 it then. 207 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,800 In all, Busby was quoted as say, Busby, I missed the B. 208 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Quote, may death come to anyone who dares sit in my chair. 209 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,400 I feel like I wouldn't curse a chair, I'd wanna curse something that's never gonna 210 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,400 go away. 211 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,440 Yeah, chairs are gonna go away pretty quick. 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Comparing to the tombstone. 213 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Of course, the tombstone's not there anymore. 214 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Her life is limited, very limited. 215 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Busby was gibbeted at Sand Hut Crossroads beside an inn which later had its name changed 216 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,400 to the Busby Stoop Inn. 217 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:24,920 A site of the execution opposite the pub on the A61 and A167 crossroads, now a roundabout, 218 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,520 was said to be haunted by Busby's ghost. 219 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:34,280 The chair is said to have remained in use for centuries at the Busby Stoop Inn near 220 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Thurst. 221 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Due to the many deaths later attributed to people sitting in the chair, the landlord 222 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,480 donated it to the Thurst Museum in 1978. 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,960 The museum also displays a plaque with the stories of the chair's supposed victims. 224 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,840 After Busby's death, multiple reports arose of people dying or meeting some other tragedy 225 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,120 after sitting in the Thurst chair. 226 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,160 One man was found hanging outside the Busby Stoop Inn after sitting in the chair and during 227 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:07,120 the Second World War, Canadian airmen from the nearby base at Skipton on Swale went 228 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,640 to the pub and those who sat in the chair never returned from bombing missions over 229 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,880 mainland Europe. 230 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,520 The chair now hangs from a wall in England's Thurst Museum so that no one can accidentally 231 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,760 curse themselves by sitting in it. 232 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Which I think I already said. 233 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,200 See, if somebody can strangle themselves with a chain riding a bike home, somebody can 234 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,200 sit in that chair. 235 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Oh yeah, it can be done. 236 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 I mean humans are something. 237 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,520 They are something. 238 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,960 The hand-resist him painting. 239 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,960 This one's creepy. 240 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Hand-resist him? 241 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Actually, I think I should look at it because I don't think I have. 242 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,280 The hands-resist him painting. 243 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,280 It's pretty creepy actually. 244 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Isn't it creepy? 245 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,600 I don't know what it is. 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Maybe it's that kid's big forehead. 247 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,160 The eyes. 248 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Oh, I thought it was the forehead. 249 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Could be the forehead. 250 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,480 A sullen boy with sightless eyes stands in front of a door next to a creepy girl doll with 251 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,600 a vaguely ventriloquist smile and jointed limbs. 252 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,720 Between them, several pairs of childish hands are pressed against the glass of the door. 253 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Painted by artist Bill Stoneham, a hands-resist him is considered one of the world's most 254 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,720 haunted artworks. 255 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,400 In 2000, a California couple put the eerie picture up for sale on an online auction site 256 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,720 with a warning to potential buyers. 257 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Apparently, come nightfall, the figures in the painting would move or disappear or the 258 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,280 odd-looking boy would actually enter the room where the painting hung. 259 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,640 People who viewed the painting complained of feeling sick or weak as if unseen hands 260 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,200 were grabbing them. 261 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,760 According to Stoneham, the painting is based on the childhood photograph of himself at 262 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,800 age 5. 263 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,440 The doorway symbolizes a threshold between worlds. 264 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,840 The dolls act as his guide through this world in between waking and dreaming. 265 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,400 The hands represent other lives. 266 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,480 While Stoneham was surprised by all of the supernatural speculation surrounding the painting, 267 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,360 he did concede that both the owner of the first gallery to ever show the hands resist 268 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,600 him and the art critic who reviewed it both died within one year first seeing the painting. 269 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,080 It is a creepy painting, just like the first one. 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,600 They are there though in the painting. 271 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,840 I just feel like you have ulterior motives if you're selling something, by the way, 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,840 it's haunted. 273 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,840 But sometimes it makes it go for more money. 274 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,560 I know, that's the ulterior motive. 275 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,560 Oh. 276 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:28,560 You're trying to. 277 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,560 Right, ulterior motive you said. 278 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:32,640 Then yes, I agree. 279 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,400 I just had to say the ulterior motive out loud. 280 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Next one. 281 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Utsi, the Iceman? 282 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Have you heard of Utsi? 283 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,400 No. 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,400 I assume that's how you say it. 285 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Utsi. 286 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Oh yeah, the um. 287 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,400 The Iceman. 288 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Yeah, I know the Iceman. 289 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,880 Yes. 290 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Yeah. 291 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Apparently he's haunted. 292 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,880 I did know that one. 293 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Yeah, he's haunted. 294 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:58,080 Since the discovery of this perfectly preserved Ice Age warrior in 1991, at least seven deaths 295 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,400 have been attributed to the curse of Utsi. 296 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,000 How many deaths would you attribute to a curse? 297 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 At least seven? 298 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Three? 299 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,160 No, three is too little. 300 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,800 I thought seven was a little. 301 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Sorry, what? 302 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,160 I think that was enough to be a curse. 303 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Seven deaths. 304 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Seven, yeah, like that's more than the curse of King Tut's tomb or whatever. 305 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Two? 306 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,600 I think it's just more than one. 307 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,600 Really? 308 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Okay. 309 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,600 I mean, I wouldn't be impressed by two. 310 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 I'd be like, the curse isn't that strong. 311 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,760 I'd take a risk on it. 312 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,760 Yeah. 313 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,000 I mean, I think the threshold is going to change from person to person. 314 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000 That's true. 315 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 I don't even think it has to kill anybody. 316 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,160 It could just be creepy. 317 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,040 That's a good question for our listeners on Spotify. 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,800 What is the threshold of curse? 319 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Okay, let's continue on. 320 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Curious minds, they wander. 321 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Some claim the warrior spirit seeks revenge for being disturbed after being encased in 322 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,680 ice for thousands of years. 323 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,480 I mean, there's probably a lot still out there that might be cursed in that case. 324 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,360 And woolly mammoth, the hiker who discovered Utsi, the team who took him from his icy grave 325 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:07,120 and the reporter who covered the story are some of the alleged victims of the Iceman's 326 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,120 curse. 327 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Scientist Conrad Spindler, a leading expert on Utsi, is also considered a victim since 328 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,440 he perished shortly after joking about the curse and calling it rubbish. 329 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Oh, shit. 330 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,240 You shouldn't call it curse rubbish. 331 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,240 That's just the dumbest thing to call a curse. 332 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Yeah, it's true. 333 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,640 I didn't call it rubbish just to put it out there. 334 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,680 It's rewind and find out what is disturbing Utsi. 335 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,840 In 1991, hikers found a mummified body protruding from a glacier in the Uts- 336 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Elps, which straddled the border of Austria and Italy. 337 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:45,600 It turned out to be a middle-aged man murdered by an arrow over 5,000 years ago. 338 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,160 People started calling him Utsi the Iceman and he pretty much rocked the world of prehistoric 339 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,160 research. 340 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:58,760 14 years later, Australian molecular archaeologist Thomas Loy died at the age of 63 of natural 341 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,760 causes. 342 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,360 He had studied Utsi closely. 343 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Oh, good. 344 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,600 I was wondering how this was related to a haunting. 345 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,320 I'm glad I got that. 346 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Just some guy. 347 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,320 Yeah. 348 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Yeah. 349 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,880 In fact, it was Loy who found traces of blood from several other people on Utsi and claimed 350 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 that he likely died after a skirmish. 351 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,040 That's sad. 352 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Have you seen artist renditions of Utsi? 353 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,400 No, I'm going to Google it while I look at the... 354 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,240 He looks like a real redneck. 355 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Artist? 356 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Oh, yes I have. 357 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,400 Now that you say that, I have. 358 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:36,400 To some people, Loy's connection to the Iceman was interesting, if unremarkable, sentenced 359 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,840 to his obituary. 360 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,640 To others, it was yet more evidence that the corpse carried a fatal curse. 361 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,400 The trouble with Utsi the Iceman began the year after he was discovered when 64-year-old 362 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,440 forensic pathologist Reiner Henn perished in a car accident. 363 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,960 Henn had moved the remains into a body bag and was actually en route to give a lecture 364 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,300 on the Iceman when he died. 365 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:02,540 Not long after that tragedy, mountain climber Kurt Fritz died in Avalanche. 366 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:06,880 He had arranged the helicopter trip to retrieve Utsi from the mountain. 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,960 Then it said that Reiner Hutz, who captured footage of the retrieval, passed away from 368 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,440 a brain tumor at the age of 47. 369 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Oh, yeah, look at Utsi. 370 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,640 He's...what? 371 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,640 Something. 372 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 I'm just curious, because this is so long ago we're never going to get an answer as to 373 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,760 how Utsi cursed, but I'm curious to like what he did to curse. 374 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,080 He did to curse. 375 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,320 That sounds like a weird way to phrase it, but like, why is he cursed? 376 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Because he was trapped in the cave for so long. 377 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Is the theory. 378 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,440 He hated it, but he was then released, so that doesn't make sense. 379 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,440 No. 380 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,800 He was released because he was disturbed and he liked it. 381 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Maybe he did. 382 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,000 He is the Iceman after all. 383 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 He doesn't like being hot. 384 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 He's not Iceman anymore. 385 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Yeah. 386 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 He doesn't like it. 387 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,480 They kind of cool him off. 388 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:01,720 The Iceman claimed three more lives in quick succession between 2004 and 2005. 389 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,800 First Helmut Simon, one of the hikers who discovered Utsi died after falling 300 feet 390 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,880 down a mountain. 391 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,120 The archaeologist Conrad Spindler, one of Utsi's chief researchers, died of complications 392 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,080 from multiple sclerosis. 393 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,480 I mean, that's a stretch. 394 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:24,280 I think some curses have to remember that everybody's going to die. 395 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 This curse killed him of old age. 396 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,280 We talked about this. 397 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,200 We've done an episode on curses. 398 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,160 It was the episode called, I had to look at it. 399 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,160 This episode is cursed. 400 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,160 This episode is cursed. 401 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Don't listen to me. 402 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,720 It was a Halloween episode. 403 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:44,440 So all I've pictured the entire time of this, like reading Utsi is the mummy and Utsi slowly 404 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,160 killing people to gain his body back. 405 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,360 And imagine literally no other scenario that would make sense. 406 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,000 I mean, unless he was trying to avenge himself. 407 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Shami felt that he had to do that so many years later, but that's my scenario that's 408 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,840 going on with this. 409 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Like he is just killing people so that he can become a whole man again to do evil things. 410 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,720 But I found, I thought they found him whole. 411 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Mummy? 412 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Well, no, like, yeah, he's mummified, but he wants to be a real person again. 413 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Okay. 414 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Right? 415 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Wasn't the mummy was a mummy? 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,360 And then he came back. 417 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:27,800 But part of it is, is with a mummy, they take out parts before they put it in the sarcophagus. 418 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,360 They didn't do that with Utsi. 419 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,880 I don't think they did that with Utsi. 420 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,520 I'm pretty sure he's just a whole guy. 421 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,800 I do like to picture this guy that the artist rendition of him just like shows up around 422 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:43,000 where these people are and like pushes them off mountains and like jumps out and scares 423 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,680 them into a fatal car accident. 424 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,000 I mean, I would be startled if I saw this guy. 425 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 This guy looks like Matt. 426 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Just the horror movies that can be coming from the things we're talking about today 427 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 would be genre defining journey. 428 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Like they'd be just sorry. 429 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:03,840 I said that with an accent journey to the fridge and gmail.com or your movie horror 430 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,080 rights. 431 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840 We may sell multiple or just ideas. 432 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840 We got lots of them. 433 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Yeah. 434 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,360 Oh, we'll give you ideas. 435 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:17,440 Anyhow, today Utsi can be visited in person in Italy's South Tyrol Museum of Archaeologists. 436 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:25,320 If you dare, all archaeology, if you dare, has anybody who seen him like just as a tourist 437 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:33,000 died, been attributed, I guess, he may have a full human form and it could just have a 438 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,080 doll in the museum. 439 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,280 These are all just ideas for movies. 440 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:45,720 If you must know, and I should shut up because we could sell. 441 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,680 We're just giving him a way. 442 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,680 Yeah. 443 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,680 Remember, you got to pay us. 444 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,680 Yeah. 445 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,520 We're just sending our money, turning to the fridge and gmail.com. 446 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,400 Next movie idea, the Bronze Lady statue. 447 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Have you heard of the legend of Sleepy Hollow? 448 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,000 No, not that one. 449 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,280 What about Bronze Lady, who's actually much easier to find than the headless horseman? 450 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,520 She's a bronze statue located in New York's Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, home to the grave 451 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:21,440 of Washington Irving himself, officially named Braculement or Grief. 452 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,240 A bronze lady was commissioned by the widow of Civil War General Samuel M. Thomas after 453 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,080 he died in 1903. 454 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:35,040 As the story goes, Thomas's widow was unhappy with the statue because its expression seemed 455 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,240 too morose. 456 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,640 So sculptor Andrew O'Connor Jr. redid it for her. 457 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,480 But instead of handing over the new head, he called it a monstrosity and shattered it 458 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,480 in front of her. 459 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,420 The disgruntled Mrs. Thomas installed the original figure to watch over her late husband's 460 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:54,960 tomb anyway, and in the following years, night time visitors to the cemetery claimed 461 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,000 to have heard quiet sobs coming from the Bronze Lady. 462 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,360 Supristicians got embellished and passed down by neighborhood kids through the 20th century. 463 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:09,320 Anthony J. Marmo, who grew up there in the 1970s, shared his childhood memories with 464 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,040 the New York Times in 2000. 465 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Well, if you knock on the door of the general's tomb and look through a keyhole, it was said 466 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,480 that you would have a bad dream that night. 467 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,120 Of course, that always worked. 468 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:24,320 There was another one where, if you slapped her in the face, sat in her lap and spit in 469 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,280 her eye, she would haunt you for the rest of your life, and there was always one brave 470 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,640 kid who did it. 471 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,640 End quote. 472 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Not sure if they're haunted or not. 473 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Be announced. 474 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:41,720 The Myrtles Plantation Mirror Known as one of America's most haunted homes 475 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:49,480 and the alleged site of as many as 10 murders, this antebellum mansion in St. Francisville, 476 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,920 Louisiana also boasts a highly mysterious mirror. 477 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Purchased by the homeowners sometime three or four decades ago, the mirror is said to 478 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,520 contain the ghosts of Sarah Woodruff, the original mistress of the house and her children. 479 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,000 The custom dictates that mirrors should be covered when someone dies so that the soul 480 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,040 of the deceased doesn't get caught in the mirror instead of ascending to heaven. 481 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,600 Apparently, it's Sarah's death, the mourners abandoned tradition. 482 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Now, visitors at Myrtles Plantation have reported seeing handprints materialize in the 483 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,840 mirror and long drip mark, which no amount of cleaning can remove. 484 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,840 That one was short and sweet. 485 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,840 That's also a house, isn't it? 486 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Or is it the mirror? 487 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,120 It is also a haunted house, yes. 488 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,120 Okay. 489 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:31,120 So that answers that question. 490 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,120 Houses are objects. 491 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:33,120 Yeah. 492 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:37,880 It also answers that the mirrors haunted, but also there are 10 murders in the house 493 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:43,280 that were seemingly unrelated to the mirror at all and just offhandedly mentioned. 494 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,280 So the plantation... 495 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960 We don't need to focus too much on that. 496 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Yeah, exactly. 497 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,200 It's not a murder episode, it's a cursor haunted episode. 498 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Exactly. 499 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,440 With some murders happening in the background. 500 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Okay. 501 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,400 Last but not least, the chairs of Bellcourt Castle. 502 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,040 Bellcourt Castle is located on Bellevue Avenue in Newport, Rhode Island. 503 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,960 It is a private property and offers no accommodations, but you can visit the castle as well as the 504 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,840 garden, which is truly magnificent. 505 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280 The castle also boasts a museum. 506 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240 You can book a guided tour for those who aren't afraid of ghosts. 507 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,280 They have ghost tours. 508 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:23,400 The owner of the castle, Mrs. Harley Tinney, organizes candlelit guided tours at night 509 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,480 for the ghosts. 510 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600 To see ghosts, not have ghosts join a tour. 511 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,120 They don't have money. 512 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,680 They don't have money, it's not worth it. 513 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,680 They do not. 514 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 The construction of the building, which would later be called Bellcourt Castle, started 515 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,600 1891 and finished in 1894, although the main bulk of the construction took place during 516 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,040 these four years. 517 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Further building and architectural bits were added through the years. 518 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,720 In fact, Bellcourt Castle went through quite a few changes over the last centuries and 519 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,160 these architectural changes occurred with different owners. 520 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,760 The building is a mix of many different European styles, but Bellcourt Castle's architecture 521 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,560 is strongly influenced by French Renaissance and its interior is mainly of Gothic style. 522 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,960 There are 60 rooms in total and the castle is 50,000 square feet. 523 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Many different families that bought and occupied and sold the castle, the current owners of 524 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,800 the castle, the tinnies who still own the castle, gave it the name Bellcourt. 525 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Bellcourt Castle is well known for its paranormal activity and has been featured in many TV shows. 526 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,440 The latest being Ghost Hunters. 527 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,160 Those interested in ghosts and other unexplained paranormal activities will be spoiled and 528 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320 can expect chills down their spine. 529 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,320 The ballroom is the most feared room of the castle since this is where most of the haunting 530 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,480 and paranormal activity takes place. 531 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,000 The current and former owners, as well as visitors and tour guides have reported feeling 532 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,160 a distinct presence standing behind them and most particularly right behind their shoulder. 533 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,880 I mean I would classify that as behind. 534 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,120 However, none of them have been able to identify whether it's a man or a woman adulterate child. 535 00:25:56,120 --> 00:26:00,400 These chilling accounts have been investigated by famous paranormal investigators but no 536 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,800 explanation has been given and the strange atmosphere can be felt seconds after you entered 537 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,360 this large room. 538 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,400 This is reminding me of the haunted mansion. 539 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Like everyone dancing in there? 540 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 No one said dancing. 541 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 I'm just curious. 542 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,920 So everybody feels this or certain people? 543 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,680 Apparently everyone. 544 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,080 I mean it is pretty haunted. 545 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,080 It's a pretty high statistic. 546 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,080 100% yeah. 547 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Objects flying across the room as well as furniture moving are also very common especially in 548 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,680 the ballroom and if you are lucky enough you may hear footsteps around the room and doors 549 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,000 opening and shutting on there. 550 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Okay it's not everybody. 551 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,680 This is seriously reminding me of the haunted mansion. 552 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,000 Like in most haunted houses the temperature fluctuates and the ballroom can become very 553 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 cold. 554 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,680 All of a sudden people have also reported feeling physically sick and even nauseous after 555 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,040 spending a few seconds in the room. 556 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,360 As I've mentioned getting this sudden urge of uncontrollable hatred it could also be 557 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,080 whoever you're on the tour with. 558 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,200 Does anybody check the air in this castle? 559 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,200 No. 560 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,200 I don't know for sure. 561 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,200 That's just me saying no. 562 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600 I just feel like there could be something off with the air. 563 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:11,520 So anyway what is haunted in this castle is the like what this object is is the salt chairs 564 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,800 and they're one of the most baffling and fascinating paranormal activities present at the castle. 565 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,920 Only used by royalty to distribute salt. 566 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,200 I don't get the relation. 567 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Which was a very valuable commodity at the time. 568 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960 The salt was hidden inside the- oh here we go. 569 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,200 I just had to keep reading. 570 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,240 As always the salt was hidden inside the chairs and the kings or rulers would be seated on 571 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,320 them to make sure they wouldn't disappear. 572 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Do you feel like having a little experience? 573 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,920 If so when you visit the castle try to sit on one of the chairs and see what happens. 574 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,880 Until you will be one of those who won't be able to sit and instead you will feel someone 575 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,040 pushing you. 576 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,120 Some visitors claim to have been violently ejected from the chairs and it appears that 577 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,120 only men can sit on them. 578 00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:00,400 So that's what this one is about at the the the chairs the salt chairs. 579 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,920 I had no idea that salt chairs were a thing and yet you can still buy them. 580 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760 That's at least the style apparently. 581 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Yeah. 582 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,680 If you type in salt chair you'll know exactly that kind of chair. 583 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:16,160 Only another spooky phenomenon seems to have happened to a monkey bell court castle while 584 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000 it's only the statue of the monk wearing an ancient robe. 585 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760 The statue is said to be moving and changing position. 586 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Once again no explanation either can be given to the agonizing voices heard in and around 587 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,520 the ballroom and the corridors. 588 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,640 The voices although frightening seem to be warning the visitors but of what? 589 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880 It remains a mystery but only you can solve. 590 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,880 I just added that last part. 591 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Salt chair. 592 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,880 What? 593 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Wait this cannot be right this is just an ordinary kitchen chair. 594 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,800 I know. 595 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Okay bell court castle. 596 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Nothing comes up with that either. 597 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,160 I mean I assume they're there but cannot confirm. 598 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Anyhow this is my episode. 599 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,960 I liked it. 600 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,520 And yeah if you need any more ideas for horror movies that will redefine the genre I think 601 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,840 you need to come to us. 602 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960 We have an endless supply. 603 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Yeah. 604 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720 Plus if you needed a cryptid to be like a horror person we know them. 605 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 We can tell you have you heard of veggie man? 606 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200 Yeah but a different one does not veggie man. 607 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,200 We got way more. 608 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Way more better ones. 609 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Also. 610 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Yeah we keep actually just so everybody knows we actually keep the best ones for us to 611 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,040 sell. 612 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,880 Yeah it's just for us privately before we start recording we just say the names and laugh 613 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,520 and laugh because they're so good. 614 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,040 Just as well never know unless we get money from it. 615 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640 And it's a super evil laugh too. 616 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800 I can't even do it on this podcast for you. 617 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Also if you happen to be recruiting, un-cur pretty much anything you're gonna need to 618 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,640 the fringe at gmail.com. 619 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,560 And I think with that I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 620 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,040 We are Journey to the Fringe. 621 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 622 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Bye. 623 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,320 Thank you for listening too Journey to the Fringe. 624 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:08,360 If you have liked what you have listened to please like, share, subscribe or follow 625 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 depending on what venue you are listening to us through. 626 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,840 Also please if possible leave a 5 star review as that really helps us in the algorithms. 627 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,640 Should you wish to interact with us please check us out on your social media of choice. 628 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,400 I bet you we are there. 629 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,880 And if you really want to communicate with us and give us ideas for new episodes or tell 630 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,240 us that we're wrong and terrible either way. 631 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,760 Please send us an email at Journeytothefringeatgmail.com. 632 00:30:35,760 --> 00:31:01,320 For now I'll see you in the next episode.