From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.
Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where dreams come true.
Not exciting dreams, but dreams nonetheless.
We are your hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today Chelsea has an episode for us, and I
have no idea at all what it is, so I'm just gonna-
That's not a new mail, that's just a part of every intro.
Yeah.
Today I had a hankering from some- dammit.
Today I had a hankering for some haunted objects, so haunted objects is what I get.
If I were just a name off the top of my head, a few haunted objects, I would start with
Annabelle, Rigidy and all.
I'd like to hear from you what you would name as the most haunted object you know.
Yeah, it's definitely Dolls.
Dolls are the biggest one.
Yeah.
I don't know, do houses count as haunted objects?
Yeeeeeeeah.
Is a house an object?
I think so.
Like it's tangible.
I never did define what a haunted object was in this episode, so.
I guess-
That really reminds me too of- for- it was an episode you did with the Japanese idea
that something comes to life after like a hundred years.
Yeah.
That's really what makes you think- but yeah Annabelle's probably the- sorry, to bring
it right back to your actual episode.
Annabelle, definitely Annabelle.
I almost took the bait, I almost kept going on that one.
Yeah, Annabelle, Robert the Haunted Doll, for sure, he's definitely really haunted that
I hear about.
And lamps.
The Jin love them, I guess, I think.
And I think that just about does it for haunted objects I may know of.
So forget about those.
That was a short episode.
No, okay, there's more.
Okay, no, it's not gonna end, I guess.
I could keep going.
Okay.
Here at Journey to the Fringe, we're here for the things that I don't know, and you don't
know, and maybe you the listeners don't know.
So down with the mainstream, we're going with the things that we want to find out about,
not that we already know about.
So if there is one thing that during this research that I learned as a takeaway, it's
that there are a handful of things that are just scientifically going to be more haunted
than other things.
So that's paintings, jewels, dolls, and mummies, which can also be a lot of those things.
Yeah, a lot of those things I say are cursed than haunted.
So in the Venn diagram of haunted versus cursed, you would definitely get some crossover in
the like middle of the, I don't know what that's called scientifically, for sure, but
you get some cross.
There might have been something else.
Chairs.
Chairs are fucking haunted too.
Okay, so let's just talk about some haunted things you may or may not know.
You may or may not know that was in English.
First up, the anguished man.
It's a painting if you want to Google it.
Take a look, but don't look too close.
It might haunt you.
That's not a print.
Wait, sorry, are pictures of pictures haunted or is it just the original picture?
Probably just the original.
It's spooky though, so just brace yourself.
I'm just warning you, don't be startled.
The anguished man is a painting created by an unknown artist.
I'm not sure how we finish off this portion with it being unknown, but here we are.
The owner of the painting, Sean Robinson from Cumbria, England, claims to have inherited
the painting from his grandmother, who told him that the artist who created the painting
had mixed his own blood into the paint and then died by suicide soon after finishing
the work.
Quite the relic to pass down through generations.
The painting has been characterized as being supposedly haunted.
Thank God.
This is haunted.
I was getting worried it might not be.
Robinson uploaded videos of the painting to his YouTube channel in 2010 and what he claims
to have heard crying and moaning noises in his house and to have once seen the figure
of a man.
Maybe from the painting.
In 2016, rights were required to make a film based on the story of the painting and I'm
not sure what film that is and that's all I have.
What do you think of the painting?
It is a creepy painting.
I agree with that.
Is he the only one who's apparently like said it's haunted?
Yes.
Has anybody else like given like, oh no, I heard crying too when I was in like the vicinity
of it.
No.
Except for my research.
Okay.
And I'm seeing actually that they sold the rights to the movie in 2016.
What's the movie?
So I don't think it's actually ever come out.
Oh, it's just the rights were sold.
Is this like you're unloading in Las Vegas.
He's just going to sell the race to everyone for money.
Maybe.
Apparently there is also Wikipedia article on body fluids in art.
Yes.
Which I don't really want to read.
I didn't want to click on it.
Nope.
I felt like this was as far as I wanted to go with it.
Yeah, it is.
It is creepy.
It's almost like a skinless man screaming.
He looks like he's on fire and his skin is melted off.
Yeah.
And he's screaming or his mouth is just open.
It actually would be pretty easy to replicate to.
It's not that high of quality.
Oh no, there's blood in the paint.
So yeah, I mean, if anybody just wants to sell movie rights, I think it's a very lucrative
thing to look into just, you know, claiming a painting is haunted.
Yeah.
Just make sure it's creepy.
You know, from this recording session today, I'm coming away with a lot of different career
ideas.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's talk about Carl Pruitt's grave.
This haunted object comes with a warning and I'm just going to get it right out of the
way first just in case I can save anyone a haunting.
A warning is don't deface any tombstones that bear the name Carl Pruitt.
So if you happen to be listening right now and you have your hand in the air ready to
deface Carl Pruitt's tombstone, just put it down and hear me out.
And perhaps just move to a tombstone next to it if you really must deface a tombstone.
If that's what you're out to do tonight, I'm going to tell you the story now.
Listen and then act.
Okay.
In Kentucky in the late 1930s, a carpenter named Carl Pruitt reportedly walked in on
his wife and I don't know why this is in another language and I don't know what language
it is.
Play grante delicito delicto delicto.
Let me Google that with another man.
I assume that means in dispose.
I found another source that says Carl Pruitt returned home from work in 1938 to find his
wife in bed with another man.
Okay.
In play grant, delicto is Latin for in blazing offense.
Huh.
Well, that's very fancy.
With another man.
Okay.
Wife.
Pruitt strangled her to death with a chain before taking his own life.
After he was buried far from his wife, some kids are said to have noticed what looked
like the outline of a chain on Pruitt's tombstone.
How did he die?
I don't know.
Was he hanged?
Oh, he took his own life.
Sorry, that was just me.
Yeah.
Okay.
One kid chucked a rock at it only to be strangled to death on his ride home when his bicycle
chain got dislodged from its track and wrapped around his neck.
How the hell does that happen?
I want to see the, oh, what's the name of that movie?
The horror series where it's like death is coming for them because they were on that
airplane that they should have died in.
Final destination.
Yeah.
I would love to see.
That is a final destination.
Yeah.
After the boys mom took an axe to the tombstone.
This is really escalating.
She ended up strangled by her clothesline and the tombstone appeared mysteriously undamaged.
A farmer who shot at the tombstone accidentally spooked his horse and got strangled by the
rains.
You might be starting to sense a theme here.
Anyone who messes with Pruitt's final resting place died of strangulation.
That was Carl's middle name.
Carl, I'll strangle you from beyond the grain Pruitt and it rings true to this day.
I don't know how they picked that middle name for him, but.
I wonder what they put on the tombstone.
It probably says deface me or something.
Yeah.
It just taught him something.
Do it.
According to legend Pruitt's vengeful spirit claimed a couple more victims before the cemetery
was demolished by strip miners in the late 1950s.
That also says to me that something probably happened to those miners, but I guess we'll
never know.
That's the mystery of Carl Pruitt.
I'm kind of surprised this one didn't have its rights sold.
I feel it would be hard to make it into a horror movie, but nonetheless.
No, it would be a new final destiny.
Anyhow, anyone listening that is interested in this movie, turn you to the fringe at gmail.com.
We will sell you the rights.
Exclusive rights.
We have the exclusive rights apparently now.
We definitely came up with this.
Thomas Busby's chair.
Thomas Busby was arrested, tried and condemned to death after he murdered his father-in-law
Daniel Addie in 1702 in North Yorkshire, England.
Oddie and Busby were running a coin counterfeiting business as well as other criminal enterprises,
and they argued about the business which ended with Busby killing Oddie.
One variation of the story has Busby cursing the chair, wilson his way to execution.
Whereas another says that he was drunk in the chair when he was arrested and cursed
it then.
In all, Busby was quoted as say, Busby, I missed the B.
Quote, may death come to anyone who dares sit in my chair.
I feel like I wouldn't curse a chair, I'd wanna curse something that's never gonna
go away.
Yeah, chairs are gonna go away pretty quick.
Comparing to the tombstone.
Of course, the tombstone's not there anymore.
Her life is limited, very limited.
Busby was gibbeted at Sand Hut Crossroads beside an inn which later had its name changed
to the Busby Stoop Inn.
A site of the execution opposite the pub on the A61 and A167 crossroads, now a roundabout,
was said to be haunted by Busby's ghost.
The chair is said to have remained in use for centuries at the Busby Stoop Inn near
Thurst.
Due to the many deaths later attributed to people sitting in the chair, the landlord
donated it to the Thurst Museum in 1978.
The museum also displays a plaque with the stories of the chair's supposed victims.
After Busby's death, multiple reports arose of people dying or meeting some other tragedy
after sitting in the Thurst chair.
One man was found hanging outside the Busby Stoop Inn after sitting in the chair and during
the Second World War, Canadian airmen from the nearby base at Skipton on Swale went
to the pub and those who sat in the chair never returned from bombing missions over
mainland Europe.
The chair now hangs from a wall in England's Thurst Museum so that no one can accidentally
curse themselves by sitting in it.
Which I think I already said.
See, if somebody can strangle themselves with a chain riding a bike home, somebody can
sit in that chair.
Oh yeah, it can be done.
I mean humans are something.
They are something.
The hand-resist him painting.
This one's creepy.
Hand-resist him?
Actually, I think I should look at it because I don't think I have.
The hands-resist him painting.
It's pretty creepy actually.
Isn't it creepy?
I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's that kid's big forehead.
The eyes.
Oh, I thought it was the forehead.
Could be the forehead.
A sullen boy with sightless eyes stands in front of a door next to a creepy girl doll with
a vaguely ventriloquist smile and jointed limbs.
Between them, several pairs of childish hands are pressed against the glass of the door.
Painted by artist Bill Stoneham, a hands-resist him is considered one of the world's most
haunted artworks.
In 2000, a California couple put the eerie picture up for sale on an online auction site
with a warning to potential buyers.
Apparently, come nightfall, the figures in the painting would move or disappear or the
odd-looking boy would actually enter the room where the painting hung.
People who viewed the painting complained of feeling sick or weak as if unseen hands
were grabbing them.
According to Stoneham, the painting is based on the childhood photograph of himself at
age 5.
The doorway symbolizes a threshold between worlds.
The dolls act as his guide through this world in between waking and dreaming.
The hands represent other lives.
While Stoneham was surprised by all of the supernatural speculation surrounding the painting,
he did concede that both the owner of the first gallery to ever show the hands resist
him and the art critic who reviewed it both died within one year first seeing the painting.
It is a creepy painting, just like the first one.
They are there though in the painting.
I just feel like you have ulterior motives if you're selling something, by the way,
it's haunted.
But sometimes it makes it go for more money.
I know, that's the ulterior motive.
Oh.
You're trying to.
Right, ulterior motive you said.
Then yes, I agree.
I just had to say the ulterior motive out loud.
Next one.
Utsi, the Iceman?
Have you heard of Utsi?
No.
I assume that's how you say it.
Utsi.
Oh yeah, the um.
The Iceman.
Yeah, I know the Iceman.
Yes.
Yeah.
Apparently he's haunted.
I did know that one.
Yeah, he's haunted.
Since the discovery of this perfectly preserved Ice Age warrior in 1991, at least seven deaths
have been attributed to the curse of Utsi.
How many deaths would you attribute to a curse?
At least seven?
Three?
No, three is too little.
I thought seven was a little.
Sorry, what?
I think that was enough to be a curse.
Seven deaths.
Seven, yeah, like that's more than the curse of King Tut's tomb or whatever.
Two?
I think it's just more than one.
Really?
Okay.
I mean, I wouldn't be impressed by two.
I'd be like, the curse isn't that strong.
I'd take a risk on it.
Yeah.
I mean, I think the threshold is going to change from person to person.
That's true.
I don't even think it has to kill anybody.
It could just be creepy.
That's a good question for our listeners on Spotify.
What is the threshold of curse?
Okay, let's continue on.
Curious minds, they wander.
Some claim the warrior spirit seeks revenge for being disturbed after being encased in
ice for thousands of years.
I mean, there's probably a lot still out there that might be cursed in that case.
And woolly mammoth, the hiker who discovered Utsi, the team who took him from his icy grave
and the reporter who covered the story are some of the alleged victims of the Iceman's
curse.
Scientist Conrad Spindler, a leading expert on Utsi, is also considered a victim since
he perished shortly after joking about the curse and calling it rubbish.
Oh, shit.
You shouldn't call it curse rubbish.
That's just the dumbest thing to call a curse.
Yeah, it's true.
I didn't call it rubbish just to put it out there.
It's rewind and find out what is disturbing Utsi.
In 1991, hikers found a mummified body protruding from a glacier in the Uts-
Elps, which straddled the border of Austria and Italy.
It turned out to be a middle-aged man murdered by an arrow over 5,000 years ago.
People started calling him Utsi the Iceman and he pretty much rocked the world of prehistoric
research.
14 years later, Australian molecular archaeologist Thomas Loy died at the age of 63 of natural
causes.
He had studied Utsi closely.
Oh, good.
I was wondering how this was related to a haunting.
I'm glad I got that.
Just some guy.
Yeah.
In fact, it was Loy who found traces of blood from several other people on Utsi and claimed
that he likely died after a skirmish.
That's sad.
Have you seen artist renditions of Utsi?
No, I'm going to Google it while I look at the...
He looks like a real redneck.
Artist?
Oh, yes I have.
Now that you say that, I have.
To some people, Loy's connection to the Iceman was interesting, if unremarkable, sentenced
to his obituary.
To others, it was yet more evidence that the corpse carried a fatal curse.
The trouble with Utsi the Iceman began the year after he was discovered when 64-year-old
forensic pathologist Reiner Henn perished in a car accident.
Henn had moved the remains into a body bag and was actually en route to give a lecture
on the Iceman when he died.
Not long after that tragedy, mountain climber Kurt Fritz died in Avalanche.
He had arranged the helicopter trip to retrieve Utsi from the mountain.
Then it said that Reiner Hutz, who captured footage of the retrieval, passed away from
a brain tumor at the age of 47.
Oh, yeah, look at Utsi.
He's...what?
Something.
I'm just curious, because this is so long ago we're never going to get an answer as to
how Utsi cursed, but I'm curious to like what he did to curse.
He did to curse.
That sounds like a weird way to phrase it, but like, why is he cursed?
Because he was trapped in the cave for so long.
Is the theory.
He hated it, but he was then released, so that doesn't make sense.
No.
He was released because he was disturbed and he liked it.
Maybe he did.
He is the Iceman after all.
He doesn't like being hot.
He's not Iceman anymore.
Yeah.
He doesn't like it.
They kind of cool him off.
The Iceman claimed three more lives in quick succession between 2004 and 2005.
First Helmut Simon, one of the hikers who discovered Utsi died after falling 300 feet
down a mountain.
The archaeologist Conrad Spindler, one of Utsi's chief researchers, died of complications
from multiple sclerosis.
I mean, that's a stretch.
I think some curses have to remember that everybody's going to die.
This curse killed him of old age.
We talked about this.
We've done an episode on curses.
It was the episode called, I had to look at it.
This episode is cursed.
Don't listen to me.
It was a Halloween episode.
So all I've pictured the entire time of this, like reading Utsi is the mummy and Utsi slowly
killing people to gain his body back.
And imagine literally no other scenario that would make sense.
I mean, unless he was trying to avenge himself.
Shami felt that he had to do that so many years later, but that's my scenario that's
going on with this.
Like he is just killing people so that he can become a whole man again to do evil things.
But I found, I thought they found him whole.
Mummy?
Well, no, like, yeah, he's mummified, but he wants to be a real person again.
Okay.
Right?
Wasn't the mummy was a mummy?
And then he came back.
But part of it is, is with a mummy, they take out parts before they put it in the sarcophagus.
They didn't do that with Utsi.
I don't think they did that with Utsi.
I'm pretty sure he's just a whole guy.
I do like to picture this guy that the artist rendition of him just like shows up around
where these people are and like pushes them off mountains and like jumps out and scares
them into a fatal car accident.
I mean, I would be startled if I saw this guy.
This guy looks like Matt.
Just the horror movies that can be coming from the things we're talking about today
would be genre defining journey.
Like they'd be just sorry.
I said that with an accent journey to the fridge and gmail.com or your movie horror
rights.
We may sell multiple or just ideas.
We got lots of them.
Yeah.
Oh, we'll give you ideas.
Anyhow, today Utsi can be visited in person in Italy's South Tyrol Museum of Archaeologists.
If you dare, all archaeology, if you dare, has anybody who seen him like just as a tourist
died, been attributed, I guess, he may have a full human form and it could just have a
doll in the museum.
These are all just ideas for movies.
If you must know, and I should shut up because we could sell.
We're just giving him a way.
Yeah.
Remember, you got to pay us.
Yeah.
We're just sending our money, turning to the fridge and gmail.com.
Next movie idea, the Bronze Lady statue.
Have you heard of the legend of Sleepy Hollow?
No, not that one.
What about Bronze Lady, who's actually much easier to find than the headless horseman?
She's a bronze statue located in New York's Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, home to the grave
of Washington Irving himself, officially named Braculement or Grief.
A bronze lady was commissioned by the widow of Civil War General Samuel M. Thomas after
he died in 1903.
As the story goes, Thomas's widow was unhappy with the statue because its expression seemed
too morose.
So sculptor Andrew O'Connor Jr. redid it for her.
But instead of handing over the new head, he called it a monstrosity and shattered it
in front of her.
The disgruntled Mrs. Thomas installed the original figure to watch over her late husband's
tomb anyway, and in the following years, night time visitors to the cemetery claimed
to have heard quiet sobs coming from the Bronze Lady.
Supristicians got embellished and passed down by neighborhood kids through the 20th century.
Anthony J. Marmo, who grew up there in the 1970s, shared his childhood memories with
the New York Times in 2000.
Well, if you knock on the door of the general's tomb and look through a keyhole, it was said
that you would have a bad dream that night.
Of course, that always worked.
There was another one where, if you slapped her in the face, sat in her lap and spit in
her eye, she would haunt you for the rest of your life, and there was always one brave
kid who did it.
End quote.
Not sure if they're haunted or not.
Be announced.
The Myrtles Plantation Mirror Known as one of America's most haunted homes
and the alleged site of as many as 10 murders, this antebellum mansion in St. Francisville,
Louisiana also boasts a highly mysterious mirror.
Purchased by the homeowners sometime three or four decades ago, the mirror is said to
contain the ghosts of Sarah Woodruff, the original mistress of the house and her children.
The custom dictates that mirrors should be covered when someone dies so that the soul
of the deceased doesn't get caught in the mirror instead of ascending to heaven.
Apparently, it's Sarah's death, the mourners abandoned tradition.
Now, visitors at Myrtles Plantation have reported seeing handprints materialize in the
mirror and long drip mark, which no amount of cleaning can remove.
That one was short and sweet.
That's also a house, isn't it?
Or is it the mirror?
It is also a haunted house, yes.
Okay.
So that answers that question.
Houses are objects.
Yeah.
It also answers that the mirrors haunted, but also there are 10 murders in the house
that were seemingly unrelated to the mirror at all and just offhandedly mentioned.
So the plantation...
We don't need to focus too much on that.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not a murder episode, it's a cursor haunted episode.
Exactly.
With some murders happening in the background.
Okay.
Last but not least, the chairs of Bellcourt Castle.
Bellcourt Castle is located on Bellevue Avenue in Newport, Rhode Island.
It is a private property and offers no accommodations, but you can visit the castle as well as the
garden, which is truly magnificent.
The castle also boasts a museum.
You can book a guided tour for those who aren't afraid of ghosts.
They have ghost tours.
The owner of the castle, Mrs. Harley Tinney, organizes candlelit guided tours at night
for the ghosts.
To see ghosts, not have ghosts join a tour.
They don't have money.
They don't have money, it's not worth it.
They do not.
The construction of the building, which would later be called Bellcourt Castle, started
1891 and finished in 1894, although the main bulk of the construction took place during
these four years.
Further building and architectural bits were added through the years.
In fact, Bellcourt Castle went through quite a few changes over the last centuries and
these architectural changes occurred with different owners.
The building is a mix of many different European styles, but Bellcourt Castle's architecture
is strongly influenced by French Renaissance and its interior is mainly of Gothic style.
There are 60 rooms in total and the castle is 50,000 square feet.
Many different families that bought and occupied and sold the castle, the current owners of
the castle, the tinnies who still own the castle, gave it the name Bellcourt.
Bellcourt Castle is well known for its paranormal activity and has been featured in many TV shows.
The latest being Ghost Hunters.
Those interested in ghosts and other unexplained paranormal activities will be spoiled and
can expect chills down their spine.
The ballroom is the most feared room of the castle since this is where most of the haunting
and paranormal activity takes place.
The current and former owners, as well as visitors and tour guides have reported feeling
a distinct presence standing behind them and most particularly right behind their shoulder.
I mean I would classify that as behind.
However, none of them have been able to identify whether it's a man or a woman adulterate child.
These chilling accounts have been investigated by famous paranormal investigators but no
explanation has been given and the strange atmosphere can be felt seconds after you entered
this large room.
This is reminding me of the haunted mansion.
Like everyone dancing in there?
No one said dancing.
I'm just curious.
So everybody feels this or certain people?
Apparently everyone.
I mean it is pretty haunted.
It's a pretty high statistic.
100% yeah.
Objects flying across the room as well as furniture moving are also very common especially in
the ballroom and if you are lucky enough you may hear footsteps around the room and doors
opening and shutting on there.
Okay it's not everybody.
This is seriously reminding me of the haunted mansion.
Like in most haunted houses the temperature fluctuates and the ballroom can become very
cold.
All of a sudden people have also reported feeling physically sick and even nauseous after
spending a few seconds in the room.
As I've mentioned getting this sudden urge of uncontrollable hatred it could also be
whoever you're on the tour with.
Does anybody check the air in this castle?
No.
I don't know for sure.
That's just me saying no.
I just feel like there could be something off with the air.
So anyway what is haunted in this castle is the like what this object is is the salt chairs
and they're one of the most baffling and fascinating paranormal activities present at the castle.
Only used by royalty to distribute salt.
I don't get the relation.
Which was a very valuable commodity at the time.
The salt was hidden inside the- oh here we go.
I just had to keep reading.
As always the salt was hidden inside the chairs and the kings or rulers would be seated on
them to make sure they wouldn't disappear.
Do you feel like having a little experience?
If so when you visit the castle try to sit on one of the chairs and see what happens.
Until you will be one of those who won't be able to sit and instead you will feel someone
pushing you.
Some visitors claim to have been violently ejected from the chairs and it appears that
only men can sit on them.
So that's what this one is about at the the the chairs the salt chairs.
I had no idea that salt chairs were a thing and yet you can still buy them.
That's at least the style apparently.
Yeah.
If you type in salt chair you'll know exactly that kind of chair.
Only another spooky phenomenon seems to have happened to a monkey bell court castle while
it's only the statue of the monk wearing an ancient robe.
The statue is said to be moving and changing position.
Once again no explanation either can be given to the agonizing voices heard in and around
the ballroom and the corridors.
The voices although frightening seem to be warning the visitors but of what?
It remains a mystery but only you can solve.
I just added that last part.
Salt chair.
What?
Wait this cannot be right this is just an ordinary kitchen chair.
I know.
Okay bell court castle.
Nothing comes up with that either.
I mean I assume they're there but cannot confirm.
Anyhow this is my episode.
I liked it.
And yeah if you need any more ideas for horror movies that will redefine the genre I think
you need to come to us.
We have an endless supply.
Yeah.
Plus if you needed a cryptid to be like a horror person we know them.
We can tell you have you heard of veggie man?
Yeah but a different one does not veggie man.
We got way more.
Way more better ones.
Also.
Yeah we keep actually just so everybody knows we actually keep the best ones for us to
sell.
Yeah it's just for us privately before we start recording we just say the names and laugh
and laugh because they're so good.
Just as well never know unless we get money from it.
And it's a super evil laugh too.
I can't even do it on this podcast for you.
Also if you happen to be recruiting, un-cur pretty much anything you're gonna need to
the fringe at gmail.com.
And I think with that I have been Taylor here with Chelsea.
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