1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,840 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:19,920 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where topics are ectopic. 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Not just a word for doctors anymore, we're taking it back. 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,000 We are your learned hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, and today we're going to be looking at some 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,880 weather conspiracies. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,800 This is a very large topic, and therefore we had to narrow it down to one specific thing, 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,400 and that is harp. 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,040 For those of you used to sitting in the hot tub that is conspiracy theories, I'm sure 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,400 you've heard of harp before. 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,720 For those of you who have not, first off, you should know that it's not spelled the 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 way that you would think, but it's also you probably know this because it's in the title 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,560 of the episode, probably at this point. 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Now, Chelsea, you've heard of harp before, right? 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Yes, like the instrument. 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Sure, sure. 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Yep. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,840 We'll go from there. 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,520 Anyhow, this is going to be a restricted episode. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,520 I need to warn you up front. 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,680 It's not going to look at everything just because it would be hours and hours of episode 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,240 if I had to look at everything that could be attached to this. 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,800 So we're just going to look at the weather side of it. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,640 We're going to look at a bit of history with harp, and then we're going to look at some 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,760 of the conspiracies surrounding it, and the people that are associated with those conspiracies. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Chelsea, I would say strap yourself in, but I say leave yourself free. 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 You need to be unstrapped for this stuff. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Strapped. 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,960 And we're going to go from here. 29 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:38,720 Now, the weird thing is we think of weather control conspiracies as kind of like a new 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,720 age phenomenon. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,080 But if you think about it, these go back as far as humans can, whether we're talking 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:50,920 about dances to bring rain or sacrifices to the gods for good harvest. 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,640 People have been trying to manipulate the weather in some way for thousands and thousands 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 of years. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,640 That makes sense. 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,400 It's the most uncontrollable part of our life for the most part, other than other humans. 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Yeah. 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,840 And really, gods were all formed basically around weather, if you really think about 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,840 it. 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,760 And there's more recent ideas of it too, whether we're talking about James Espey, 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,360 who in the 1830s proposed that moisture gets into the air through convection. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,840 So we should actually start forest fires to get rain, or if we're talking about many 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,120 attempts by the U.S. to control hurricanes from the 1940s onwards, one of which was by 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 dropping dry ice into the eye of a hurricane. 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,000 It didn't work out so well. 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Or if we're talking about even in the Vietnam War, there was cloud seeding attempts to 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,760 prolong the Lanzuun season so that they could flood the Ho Chi Minh trail. 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,600 All very nice attempts. 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,920 That last one actually likely worked a little bit. 50 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,200 It was controversial though, so it would be his own episode. 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,360 And I don't want to focus too much on that. 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Before we go too far, yes, we do have ways that we do control the weather. 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,640 We have been seeding clouds for decades, at least going back to the 1970s, either to prevent 54 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:07,640 catastrophic rainfall or try to prevent it, or to actually try to induce rainfall. 55 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:09,360 We've been doing that with planes. 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,360 What does that mean? 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Basically just sending things into clouds to manipulate them, either to dissipate or 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,680 to increase in volume so they can turn into rain clouds. 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,000 I have no idea. 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Yeah, if you remember, I believe there was cloud seeding that happened in the Chinese 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Olympics to basically make it so that it wasn't rainy during the Olympics. 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,440 I don't remember that because I never heard of it before. 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Oh, okay. 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,160 And yeah, insurance companies, I remember reading an article when I was taking an insurance 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:39,680 program for my undergrad, and it was specifically about how we've been cloud seeding to avoid 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,320 major storms in Alberta so that they didn't have to pay out as much in insurance. 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,240 But anyhow, that has not much to do with this. 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:52,280 What we're talking about is the high-frequency active auroral research program known as HARP 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,520 in this episode. 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,240 And if you believe the scientific explanation and the government explanation, it in no way 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,840 has anything to do with weather. 72 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,840 I'm going to read this. 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,000 This is right from this website. 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,920 HARP, which I'm going to call it from here on out, is a scientific endeavor aimed at 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,720 studying properties and behaviors of the ionosphere. 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,840 The ionosphere stretches roughly 50 to 400 miles above the Earth's surface right at 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 the edge of space, along with the neutral upper atmosphere. 78 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,560 The ionosphere forms the boundary between Earth's lower atmosphere where we live and 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,360 breathe and the vacuum of space. 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,680 That comes from NASA. 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,040 HARP is the world's most capable high-power high-frequency transmitter for the study of 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,480 the ionosphere. 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,800 And the HARP program is committed to developing a world-class ionospheric research facility 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,040 consisting of the ionospheric research instruments, a high-power transmitter facility operating 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,600 in a high-frequency range. 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,560 The IRI can be used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere. 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,600 For scientific study, it's a sophisticated suite of scientific or diagnostic instruments 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,600 that can be used to observe the physical processes that occur in that excited region. 89 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Observation of the process resulting from the use of the IRI in a controlled manner 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,800 will allow scientists to better understand processes that occur continuously under the 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,360 natural simulation of the Sun. 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Scientific instruments installed at the HARP Observatory can also be used for a variety 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,320 of continuing research efforts, which do not involve the use of the IRI but are strictly 94 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,320 passive. 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:24,320 These include ionospheric characterization, using satellite beacons, telescopic observation 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,320 of the fine structure in the aurora, and the documentation of long-term variations in the 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,320 ozone layer. 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,320 That's what it's there for, according to the... 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,820 Yeah, that sounds boring. 100 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:35,720 It sounds really boring. 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Okay, good. 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,040 And it's in a really boring place. 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,280 It's in the middle of nowhere, Alaska. 104 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,040 It's... are you ready for it, Chelsea? 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Gakona, Alaska, which I've never heard of. 106 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,640 So I thought everyone has. 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Just kidding. 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,640 No, I've never heard of it. 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Part of the reason that it's up there is because it's studying the ionosphere. 110 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,840 It needs to be in a place that gets the aurora borealis or the northern lights because that's 111 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,760 an excited part of the ionosphere. 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,760 ION meaning charged particle. 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,240 That's where the charged particles are that they're studying. 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Oh, I didn't know that. 115 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,080 And it gets really weird because the ionosphere is like one name for like four different layers 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,560 of atmosphere, but we'll just call it the ionosphere from here on out. 117 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,160 Yeah, let's do that to avoid confusion, mostly in me. 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,800 So that's part of the reason it's in Alaska's for that. 119 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,200 There's actually like six factors I found for why they picked this specific location. 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,680 And by they, I mean the government with the Air Force and the Army, along with the University 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,280 of Alaska Fairbanks. 122 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,600 We're looking at 1991 to 1993. 123 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,920 It was constructed. 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,640 So they did an environmental impact statement, which led to permission for an array of up 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,040 to 180 antennas to be erected. 126 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Harp was constructed at the previous site of an over the horizon radar OTH installation, 127 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,240 a large structure built to house the OTH now houses the harp control room, kitchens and 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,040 offices, several other small structures house various instruments. 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,840 And this was built in three distinct phases. 130 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:01,240 The first one was the developmental prototype. 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,120 It had 18 antenna elements that were put up in three columns by six. 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Then there was the field developmental prototype that had 48 antennas and the final IRI. 133 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,720 It was built with the final 180 and 10 units organized in 15 columns by 12 rows. 134 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,760 And sorry, I said Army. 135 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,640 It was initially a jointly funded project from the US Air Force, the US Navy, University 136 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:29,000 of Alaska Fairbanks and the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency DARPA, which whenever 137 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 I hear DARPA, I always get it mixed up in my mind. 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,840 I always think it's the fence against the dark arts from Harry Potter, but that's just 139 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,480 a different groove. 140 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Don't know why that's in my mind. 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,240 It's not the same acronym or anything. 142 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,240 But it's there. 143 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,320 I do like that one though. 144 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Their statement of why they built it was to analyze the ionosphere and to investigate 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,960 ionospheric enhancement technologies, which that's where the shady shit comes from. 146 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,480 Oh, do they want to make the northern lights better? 147 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,480 They might. 148 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,480 We'll get into that. 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Specifically, they explored the potential for developing technology to enhance radio 150 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,920 communications and surveillance. 151 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,520 And I think I'll end up talking about that part at the end just because let's get into 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,440 some of the exciting stuff and then get lame again. 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Yeah, hold on. 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Aren't we worried about? 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,560 No, maybe it's not related. 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,960 That's a solar flare. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Solar flares do have charged particles, and that's why we get the northern lights. 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,920 So they are studying that. 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,280 And one of the things they are studying is the impact of solar particles and radiation 160 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,920 on the ionosphere. 161 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Because that can take down the grid, right? 162 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Is that why? 163 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,240 In theory, it could take down the grid. 164 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,920 We'll see if we ever get to that point. 165 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,840 It does have to do with what's going on in the ionosphere. 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,000 And I think part of why we know so much about that is because of studying it. 167 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 With harp. 168 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Partially with harp. 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,800 I believe we knew about it before. 170 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,160 A lot of it had to do with we exploded bombs in the atmosphere for a long time. 171 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,040 And I think part of the research from that led us to realize that we can do some shit 172 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,040 with the ionosphere. 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,040 OK. 174 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,040 But not this episode. 175 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,800 That was the end of my question. 176 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,960 So 1993, harp gets built. 177 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,800 And Chelsea, I know we talk a lot of the niceties of art bell, but this can actually be traced 178 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,960 back to a guess that our bell had on coast to coast a.m. in nineteen. 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,080 They all can. 180 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,000 I swear everything can be traced back to earth. 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,800 And this is really the first time that harp conspiracies kind of hit the mainstream. 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:29,920 This guy by the name of Nick Begich, Jr. goes on coast to coast in nineteen ninety six. 183 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,840 He's going on to talk about his book and what is the name of this book? 184 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,040 It's one of those really stupid. 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,280 He had to have a pun in his title. 186 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Of course he did. 187 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,720 Everyone loves a good pun in a title. 188 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,840 You're like, I can't remember the math. 189 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,280 It's like ninety percent more likely to buy something or listen to it if it has a pun 190 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,280 in it. 191 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,280 I just don't think that that's true. 192 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,120 I think there's going to be a lot of people who get dad joke energies from it and they're 193 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,120 just going to avoid it. 194 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,040 And in fact, maybe that's the exact group they're looking for with this is only people 195 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,560 who are willing to accept bad puns. 196 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:08,480 Anyhow, his book, Dr. Nick Begich, I should say, is called Angels Don't Play This Harp. 197 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,520 That is what he went on coast to coast a.m. to talk about. 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,040 This is a doctor, you say? 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,040 We'll get to that part. 200 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,520 I want to be taken seriously, you say? 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:28,120 He goes on in ninety six gets picked up immediately by everybody to the point of in two thousand 202 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 nine Jesse Ventura on his conspiracy theory show. 203 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,600 I forget what it was called. 204 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,600 I forgot about him. 205 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,040 He is going to the gates at our facilities in two thousand nine. 206 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,040 I remember that. 207 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,480 To investigate the rumors. 208 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,000 And they basically said like, because there's only like two people there. 209 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 They're like, we can't have this entire film crew just show up and do things. 210 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,520 So please go away. 211 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,240 conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura. 212 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,760 OK, it was conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura. 213 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,360 In 2011, this gets built up even more when a Russian general told news media he suspected 214 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,600 powerful American radars and, alas, it caused the failure of Russia's Fobos grunt Mars Rover 215 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,480 space mission, which I believe we talked about the Fobos missions before. 216 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,120 Yeah, there's gonna be a few things that come up that we've talked about before. 217 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,560 And since this time, like it just keeps growing and Harps appeal to the reality challenge 218 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:18,560 has only grown. 219 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:23,200 And it shows up in so many conspiracies, like I'm trying to just keep this to weather 220 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,520 modification, but it also shoves up in chemtrails. 221 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,840 It shows up in Bluebeam, which we talked about with the spiral. 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,920 Yeah, the Norway spiral. 223 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,520 And it shows up with 5G. 224 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:43,000 It shows up with cell phone towers, targeted individuals, even like the California wildfires 225 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 and Australian wildfires get associated back to this. 226 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,800 It's not just Jewish space lasers. 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,000 It is harp that's doing this as well. 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 It's not just what space lasers? 229 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Oh, there was a congressman in the US who before she became part of the Congress, she 230 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,920 blamed the California wildfires on Jewish space lasers. 231 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Okay, you did say Jewish? 232 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Yeah, very brief summary of it. 233 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,160 It's not incorrect. 234 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,280 It's just oversimplification. 235 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,480 But she's more or less. 236 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,000 I was like, did I just hear the word Jewish space lasers? 237 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Okay. 238 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 We're going to just focus on the weather control part of it. 239 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:24,680 And this is an article written by Nick Begich on his sorry, Dr. Nick Begich on his website, 240 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:25,680 earthpulse.com. 241 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,000 Chelsea, I want you to go to earthpulse.com now. 242 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 I'm not sure if I'm in the right place. 243 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,480 Yeah, it doesn't exist. 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,040 I had to go on the way back machine. 245 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,120 This is from May 19th of 2011 on the way back machine. 246 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,240 This is talking about basically he's saying that there's no actual global warming or 247 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,440 climate change. 248 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Saying that it is manmade because it's all harp. 249 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,000 He does cite his sources. 250 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,320 Chelsea, when we get to the sites, I'm going to tell you what the citation is. 251 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Okay. 252 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,960 And you'll be the judge of whether or not this is a good citation. 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,680 Oh, is it the cult website? 254 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,720 It's not Falongong related at all. 255 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Don't worry about that. 256 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,880 In fact, it might be good sources. 257 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:05,880 We're going to see. 258 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Okay. 259 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,920 I have faith they're going to be good sources. 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,960 A high frequency active auroral research program, harp, based in Gokoma, Alaska, jointly managed 261 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,800 by the US Air Force and US Navy is part of the new generation of sophisticated weaponry 262 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,920 under the US strategic defense initiative operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 space vehicle directorate. 264 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Harp constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating quote controlled local 265 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,760 modification of the ionosphere end quote. 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,560 This doctor, Nicholas Begich, actively involved in the public campaign against harp describes 267 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:43,120 harp as and I don't know it's right on his website. 268 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,160 I don't know why he's citing himself as saying this. 269 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,200 It's kind of weird, but quote, a super powerful radio wave beaming technology that lifts areas 270 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,120 of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,200 Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything living and 272 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,200 dead. 273 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,080 And he cites this source from his book, the military's Pandora box. 274 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,000 And it comes from Earth Pulse Press. 275 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,160 It literally just says like Chelsea, I just need to share my screen for this because this 276 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,560 is how he cites it. 277 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,480 It's a direct quote he uses. 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,760 And this is what it says. 279 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Nick Begich and Jean Manning, the military Pandora paired Pandora's box. 280 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,720 He's citing himself. 281 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Doesn't tell you much. 282 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,920 Does it now? 283 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,920 No. 284 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,960 In fact, that's an incredibly lazy source. 285 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Despite the fact that he wrote it, you think he could just go to where he wrote it. 286 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,920 They all look fairly lazy just from what I'm seeing from right here. 287 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Yeah, so we're going to keep reading and we'll go through that as we get to it. 288 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Dr. Rosalie Bertel depicts harp as quote, a gigantic heater that can cause major disruption 289 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,160 in the ionosphere, creating not just holes, but long incisions in the protective layer 290 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,520 that keeps deadly radiation from bombarding the planet. 291 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,520 End quote. 292 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,680 That's a cited source. 293 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,760 And it comes from Briar Patch, January 2000. 294 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,760 That's a source. 295 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,600 I don't fucking know what that means. 296 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,240 See Briar Patch, January 2000. 297 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Emphasis added. 298 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Don't fucking know. 299 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Emphasis added. 300 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Briar Patch. 301 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,680 Some of them have links you can click. 302 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,480 They're dead links, but at least they have some links. 303 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,480 But not that one. 304 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Angled mass of prickly plants. 305 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Yes. 306 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,280 With Google's. 307 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Anyhow, we'll keep going. 308 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Harp has been presented to public opinion as a program of scientific and academic research. 309 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,080 US military documents seem to suggest, however, that Harp's main objective is to quote, exploit 310 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,960 the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes. 311 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Again, he cited the source and it says quoted in Begich and Manning. 312 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,320 So that's the last. 313 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,320 That's his book. 314 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,320 That's his book. 315 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,320 That's his book. 316 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Yeah. 317 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,320 That's his book. 318 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,320 He's not a doctor, is he? 319 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 We're going to talk about that later again. 320 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Okay. 321 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,120 There's no way he has any schooling if he's stating things like that. 322 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,880 But explicitly referring to the Harp program, a US Air Force study points to the use of induced 323 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:07,240 ionospheric modification as means of altering weather patterns as well as disrupting enemy 324 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,880 communications and radar. 325 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,800 Again, has cited his source. 326 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Air University of the US Air Force AF 2025 final report doesn't give you any idea where 327 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,240 it is. 328 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Just it's in there somewhere. 329 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,040 You got to look in the university in their AF 2025 final report. 330 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,480 And then he's got a link for it so you can go read it. 331 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,480 It's a dead link. 332 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,000 So I don't know. 333 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Nice. 334 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,560 This guy's really good at what he does. 335 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Yeah. 336 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,920 He seems successful. 337 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,440 According to Dr. Rosa Liebertel, Harp is part of an integrated weapon system which has 338 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,480 potentially devastating environmental consequences. 339 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Quote, it is related to 50 years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand 340 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,200 and control the upper atmosphere. 341 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,800 It would be a rash to not associate Harp with the space laboratory construction which is 342 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,240 separately being planned by the United States. 343 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Harp is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate 344 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,040 military nature. 345 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,240 The military implications of combining these projects is alarming. 346 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:11,360 The ability of Harp, Space Lab, rocket combination to deliver very large amounts of energy comparable 347 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:15,780 to a nuclear bomb anywhere on earth via laser and particle beams are frightening. 348 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:20,160 The project is likely to be sold to the public as a space shield against incoming weapons 349 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,640 or for the more gullible, a device for repairing the ozone layer. 350 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,840 I would like to also note this is written at the latest 2011. 351 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,680 We've had almost 15 years since it's been written. 352 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,720 Have you noticed any of this stuff being sold to you, Chelsea? 353 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Not once. 354 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,960 I don't think unless I'm... 355 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,040 You haven't heard about the space shield that we've built or the ozone layer repair 356 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,240 plan that we have? 357 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,920 Like I said, I could have missed it, but I don't think I have. 358 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Anyhow, this comes from Rosalie Bertel, background of the Harp program, November 5th, 1996. 359 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,600 That's all I know about this direct quote. 360 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 No page, no, nothing more than that. 361 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Nothing more. 362 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,760 So he's done his research? 363 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,760 I see. 364 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,260 He has done his research. 365 00:18:01,260 --> 00:18:02,260 Okay. 366 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:06,120 In addition to weather manipulation, Harp has a number of related uses. 367 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:10,040 Quote, Harp could contribute to climate change by intensively bombarding the atmosphere with 368 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,600 high frequency rays. 369 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:17,080 Returning low frequency waves at high intensity could also affect people's brains and effects 370 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,520 on tectonic movements cannot be ruled out. 371 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Again, cited, that's from his book, The Military Standor Abot. 372 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,360 I love that he's citing himself. 373 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:32,400 More generally, Harp has the ability of modifying the world's electromagnetic field and is 374 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,120 part of an arsenal of electronic weapons, which US military research consider a gentler 375 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:38,920 and kinder warfare. 376 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Again, cited source. 377 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,960 This one's a little more in depth, I guess. 378 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:49,120 Don Herskovitz, killing them softly, Journal of Electronic Defense, August 1993. 379 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:53,600 According to Herskovitz, electronic warfare is defined by the US Department of Defense 380 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,040 as military action involving the use of electromagnetic energy. 381 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,640 So that's actually slightly better. 382 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Again, no page number. 383 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,320 It's also in the Journal of Electronic Defense, which has published a range of articles on 384 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,040 the application of electronic and electromagnetic military technologies, which that's his 385 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,200 citing. 386 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,400 His citing is you should do the research. 387 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,200 It seems like there's a lot here. 388 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,480 He's cited, you know, it's been published across all of these books, maybe probably. 389 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,680 And especially it's in the Journal of Electronic Defense, which seems reputable, but I'm not 390 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:34,000 going to read anything from it. 391 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Trust me, it's there. 392 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,800 It is part of the weapon arsenal of the New World Order. 393 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,840 It didn't take long to get there under the Strategic Defense Initiative, SDI. 394 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,960 From military command points in the US, entire national economies could potentially be destabilized 395 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,240 through climatic manipulations. 396 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,200 More importantly, the latter can be implemented without the knowledge of the enemy at minimal 397 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,880 cost and without engaging military personnel and equipment as in a conventional war. 398 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,160 The use of harp, if it were to be applied, could have potentially devastating impacts 399 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,680 on the world's climate. 400 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,400 According to US economic and strategic interests, it could be used to selectively modify climate 401 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,400 in different parts of the world, resulting in the destabilization of agricultural and 402 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,040 ecological systems. 403 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,240 It's also worth noting that the US Department of Defense has allocated substantial resources 404 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,160 to the development of intelligence and monetary systems on weather changes. 405 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,400 NASA and the Department of Defense's National Imagery and Mapping Agency, NIMA, are working 406 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,880 on quote, imagery for studies of flooding, erosion, landslide hazards, earthquakes, ecological 407 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,440 zones, weather forecasts, and climate change, end quote, with data relayed from satellites. 408 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,560 He does have a citation for this, it's military space December 6th, 1999, but I am going to 409 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:55,780 take his word on that one, that they are studying weather from space, because NASA is very clear 410 00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:56,780 about that. 411 00:20:56,780 --> 00:21:02,680 Like at what point do you actually cite things if you're so vaguely referring to things? 412 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,800 You think he just got a general idea from these places? 413 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Or like, what's up with this? 414 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,160 I feel like he's a guy and I watched a few YouTube videos from him. 415 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,360 He has a ton of books, so he can't quite remember like, he doesn't take notes I don't think. 416 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:21,800 I think he writes and stream of thought from things that he remembers. 417 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040 So he just goes back to vaguely where he remembers it from. 418 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,120 So in your opinion, he may not even be getting it right. 419 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,560 No, he's not getting it right. 420 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,000 He's using these out of context. 421 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Sorry, I can't say that because I haven't read the source. 422 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,560 So when he writes something, does he put the little citation and then you refer back to 423 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,560 it? 424 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,160 Or are those just like at the end of the book? 425 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,160 They're at the end. 426 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,160 And he's just, so he's not reciting. 427 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,640 He's got to go to the bottom to see where the six is citing. 428 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Okay, so he is citing particular thoughts? 429 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Yes, and specific quotes too, but I have no idea where in those things that he's citing. 430 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,920 No, this doesn't make sense to me. 431 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,800 He has no official anything and he's probably not a doctor. 432 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Again, you need to stop saying that because we're going to get to that later. 433 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Is doctor spelt with a key? 434 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:17,000 According to the Framework Convention on Climate Change, UNFCCC signed at the 1992 Earth Summit 435 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,040 in Rio de Janeiro, quote, states have in accordance with the Charter of the United States and 436 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,560 the principle of international law the responsibility to ensure the activities within their jurisdiction 437 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,480 or control do not cause damage to the environment of other states or of areas beyond the limits 438 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,240 of natural jurisdiction. 439 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,720 He's got a citation for that, but we're just going to skip over and keep going. 440 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,280 It is also worth recalling that an international convention ratified by the UN General Assembly 441 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,840 in 1997 bans, quote, military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques 442 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,160 having widespread long lasting or severe effects. 443 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Then quote another citation we're going to keep going. 444 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Both the US and the Soviet Union are signatories to the convention. 445 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,920 The convention defines quote environmental modification techniques as referring to any 446 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:05,960 technique for changing through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes, the dynamics, 447 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,760 composition or structure of Earth, including as biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere, or end 448 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,040 atmosphere of or of outer space, end quote. 449 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Why then did the UN disregard the 1977 N-Mod convention boss as well as its own Charter 450 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,080 decided to exclude from its agenda climatic change resulting from the military programs? 451 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:34,120 In February 1998, responding to a report of Mrs. Maj Brithjoren, a Swedish MEP and longtime 452 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:38,680 peace advocate, the European Parliament's Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and 453 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Defense Policy Health Public hearings in Brussels on the HARP program. 454 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,560 This is a citation, this is something that happened, I can tell you that, it's from, 455 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:57,160 he cited it too, it's European report, February 7th, 1998. 456 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,520 The committee's motion for resolution submitted in the European Parliament, quote, considers 457 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,360 HARP by virtue of its far reaching impact on the environment to be a global concern 458 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:11,480 and calls for its legal, ecological and ethical implications to be examined by an international 459 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,640 independent body. 460 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,840 The committee regrets the repeated refusal of the United States administration to give 461 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:23,160 evidence to the public hearing into the environmental and public risks of the HARP program, end quote. 462 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,960 The committee's request to draw up a green paper on the environmental impacts of military 463 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,560 activities, however, was casually dismissed on the grounds that European Commission lacks 464 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,240 the required jurisdiction to delve into the links between the environment and defense. 465 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Brussels was anxious to avoid a showdown with Washington. 466 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,360 And this is right from him. 467 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:41,360 I love this. 468 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:46,320 While there's no concrete evidence of HARP having been used, scientific findings suggest 469 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,400 that it is at present fully operational. 470 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,800 He can't even find anything that says it's operational when there, it's very clearly 471 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,720 out there, we'll get to that. 472 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,840 What this means is that HARP could potentially be applied by the US military to selectively 473 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:05,640 modify the climate of a quote, unfriendly nation or quote, rogue state, end quote, with 474 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,080 a view of destabilizing its national economy. 475 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Global systems in both developed and developing countries are already in crisis as a result 476 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,960 of the New World Order's policies, including market deregulation, commodity dumping, etc. 477 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,760 Amply documented IMF and World Bank, Economic Medicine imposed on the third world and the 478 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,480 countries of the former Soviet Union have largely contributed to the destabilization 479 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,120 of domestic agriculture. 480 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:34,240 In turn, the provisions of the World Trade Organization have developed the interests 481 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,840 of a handful of Western agrobiotex conglomerates in their quest to impose genetically modified 482 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,400 seeds on farmers throughout the world and its impact to understand the linkage between 483 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,920 economic, strategic, and military processes of the New World Order and in the above context, 484 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,560 climatic manipulation under the HARP program would inevitably exacerbate these changes 485 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,120 by weakening national economies, destroying infrastructure, and potentially triggering 486 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,240 the bankruptcy of farmers over vast areas. 487 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Sterling national governments and the United Nations should address the possible consequences 488 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,160 of HARP and other non-lethal weapons on climate change. 489 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,000 And that's the end of his article. 490 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Even he doesn't seem to know what it is he's complaining about and to be able to cite 491 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,320 where these complaints are coming from outside of that one thing with the European Parliament. 492 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,040 I think that's a good summary of what these conspiracies can all be tied back to. 493 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,240 Now Chelsea, I would like to read to you Dr. Nick Begich's, it's from his about us 494 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680 section on the Earth Pulse website. 495 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,280 I'm excited about this. 496 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,560 We're gonna get this linked into another episode that we did that did actually focus 497 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,560 on Alaska. 498 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,080 Dr. Nick Begich is the eldest son of the late United States congressman from Alaska, Nick 499 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,120 Begich Sr. and political activist Peggy Begich. 500 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,560 He is well known in Alaska for his own political activities. 501 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,200 He was twice elected president of both the Alaska Federation of Teachers and the Anchorage 502 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Council of Education. 503 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,440 He has been pursuing independent research in the sciences and politics most of his life. 504 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Begich received his doctor of medicine, Medesina Alternativa, honoris causa for independent 505 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,960 work in health political science from the open international university for complimentary 506 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,120 medicine, Colombo Srilanka in November 1994. 507 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,000 So it's a Sri Lankan doctor. 508 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,520 That's where he learned to cite A. 509 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 That's clearly where he learned to cite. 510 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,040 He has a medicine degree from Sri Lanka. 511 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,760 So that's where he calls himself doctor has nothing to do with weather. 512 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720 He thinks you're in an English. 513 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,280 I think so. 514 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,200 Mostly because of the honoris causa, which means it's an honorary degree, but he's still 515 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,040 calling himself a doctor. 516 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Doctor with a cake. 517 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,640 Pretty much also president of both the Alaska Federation of Teachers and the Anchorage Council 518 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,920 of Education guy has no background in education. 519 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Doesn't have a teacher's degree. 520 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,880 This is just somebody who's connected. 521 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,480 This is just somebody who's connected in Alaska. 522 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,720 So his dad was a congressman famously died in a plane crash that gets attributed to the 523 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,520 Alaskan Triangle. 524 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,520 What? 525 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:21,400 Yeah, his brother was a congressman and his son, Nick Begich the third ran for Congress 526 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,400 in 2022. 527 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,880 Unfortunately, I shouldn't say unfortunately he lost actually to a very good candidate 528 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,680 who is native Alaskan. 529 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,480 So she's actually a really good candidate from there. 530 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,920 But very well off. 531 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,320 His son had to disclose when he was running for Congress that he made between one and 532 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,440 five million dollars in the year he was running and his campaign received donations from the 533 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,960 company that publishes dad's books, which I believe is that also the dad's company. 534 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Well, if he's putting out books with citations like this, it would have to be some company. 535 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,360 It really was. 536 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360 Okay. 537 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,200 Interesting way to take your life if you're that well connected. 538 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,000 If you go look at his coast to coast page, he's been on consistently since 1996. 539 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720 His most recent appearance was in 2021. 540 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,880 And he seems to have taken a shift just talking about harp to more of a new agey guy. 541 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,800 Chelsea, I can send you here. 542 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,760 One of his websites is thehiddenmonks.com. 543 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Is that him? 544 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Yeah. 545 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Okay. 546 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760 I mean, that's probably exactly what I expected. 547 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,960 If I was going to be honest with you. 548 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Register now. 549 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560 This is a free one time broadcast experience. 550 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,440 And happiness and fun. 551 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 His first episode on coast to coast AM, he really tries to get into the technicalities 552 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,480 of like radio frequencies and the atmosphere. 553 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,240 And even Art Bell was like, you need to dumb this down, man. 554 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Like this is making no sense to even me who's in radio who understands how radios work. 555 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Okay. 556 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600 So this is his new age stuff. 557 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,080 And that's what he's really moved to because this takes a turn at this point. 558 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Harp officially shut down as a government project in 2015 and was transferred exclusively 559 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,440 over to the ownership of University of Alaska Fairbanks. 560 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,680 They are incredibly open about everything harp. 561 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,000 In fact, Chelsea, I'm just going to send you this link in chat so that you can see 562 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,880 the website for harp. 563 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,880 And this looks official. 564 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Oh, is that a polar bear? 565 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,880 That's so cute. 566 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,880 Yeah. 567 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000 And actually they have merchandise you can buy that really leads into this kind of a 568 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680 sketchy government spot. 569 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:32,440 It's called area 49 and it has like what can only be described as the Norway spiral behind 570 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,440 an antenna. 571 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,960 Oh, that's cool. 572 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Most importantly, Chelsea, you see all the tabs you can click on on the top. 573 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Yeah. 574 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Look at the top right one. 575 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,720 Submit experiment proposal. 576 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,480 So you can actually I should put a caveat on here so long as you're a physicist or a 577 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,560 scientist, either with the government or in private practice, you can submit a experiment 578 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,480 proposal to University of Alaska Fairbanks that uses harp. 579 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,160 So if you really believe that you can manipulate the weather through harp and do all these 580 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,160 other things like make earthquakes, which I didn't even really talk about in this episode, 581 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,400 but you can just submit to Alaska to be able to use it to do this. 582 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,000 If we have anyone listening that can do that, if you're a physicist, which I assume we have 583 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080 many physicists. 584 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,720 I actually think that's almost exclusively who listens to us at this point. 585 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,440 I think you're right. 586 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Based on our research, please try it and get back to us with your your study. 587 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,960 And they actually have a bit of a sales pitch on their website about all the things that 588 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,180 they have there that like will help you do your research. 589 00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:33,680 And they do have research campaigns. 590 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,040 You can look at all their past research campaigns. 591 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,360 So importantly, they now do have yearly open houses held at a particular time of year. 592 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,840 So anybody in the public can just come see what's going on at Harvard. 593 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,960 Maybe we should let Jesse Ventura know that's when he can show up. 594 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160 And I think part of this is in response to that. 595 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,920 They're like, Hey, let's just make this open so that we don't need to worry about this 596 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,920 again. 597 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,920 It'll just be like one week a year where I can come. 598 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Oh, and Chelsea, I should say I need to come back to this. 599 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760 It's part of Nick Begich's description of himself. 600 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Begich has served as an expert witness and speaker before the European Parliament. 601 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,520 He was the expert on harp that they used in that report that they made. 602 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,160 Who else are you going to choose if you needed to? 603 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,600 The big part of this is that he is from Alaska. 604 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,440 He has extra time on his hands because he's a rich kid from a very connected family. 605 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,720 So he vaguely has an idea of these things and he found a way to run rampant with it. 606 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Like nobody knows about this. 607 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,280 So they have to defer to him. 608 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320 He was successful enough. 609 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,040 And at the time this was a government project. 610 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,400 So people weren't really talking about it. 611 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000 Yeah. 612 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,120 But and I said, we get back to this. 613 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,360 Oh, and Chelsea, sorry. 614 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,040 I have to say one more thing from his description. 615 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Begich has published articles in science, politics, education, and is a well-known lecturer having 616 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840 presented throughout the United States in 19 countries. 617 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,360 So he has articles. 618 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,960 He doesn't say published in journals. 619 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:08,480 He says they're really just articles and they're about science, politics, and education. 620 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,960 I mean, it is a problem. 621 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,400 As far as I can find, I couldn't find any actual like journal published articles that 622 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,200 he has, mostly because I don't think it would stand up to any type of review because man, 623 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000 does he not know how to cite sources. 624 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200 I'd be interested to listen to his interview with Art Bell now. 625 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,400 I'm going to look that up. 626 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680 It was from December 1st, 1995. 627 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,720 I really wanted to look into this just because I was curious with climate change being as 628 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 it is, why I haven't heard more about heart. 629 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,040 But it still is in the background. 630 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,440 And specifically whenever there's weather related one offs that seem to happen, harp 631 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,480 gets brought up by particular people. 632 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,480 The 2023 earthquakes in Turkey and Syria were thought to be part of Bluebeam and harp by 633 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080 some people. 634 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:57,720 And just in 2024, the Iowa caucus for the Republican primaries, Laura Loomer, who I 635 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,880 hope you don't know who this is, Chelsea, she's a far right rifter who attaches herself 636 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,480 to things like info wars and the Trump campaign. 637 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,400 I don't think she's queuing on, but she's pretty damn close. 638 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,520 Steve posted an article about how it was Nikki Haley and harp created the blizzard, which 639 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,400 stopped people from going to the primary. 640 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,600 You know, I was just about to say I haven't heard about harp or anything like that in 641 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,800 a long time. 642 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,760 And then apparently you just brought up a whole bunch. 643 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,480 And I think it's because it's more fallen into the QAnon stuff. 644 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,720 And I don't, I think we both try to avoid the QAnon stuff just because it's so crazy. 645 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:34,720 You know what? 646 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,560 It's past my time that I looked into all of this stuff. 647 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,400 So I think the really out there things just go over my head now unless I get particularly 648 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,360 attracted into it by looking at something. 649 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,880 But then I look at a summary of it and I'm like, Oh, it's one of these. 650 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,880 Yeah. 651 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960 I've done my time. 652 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,760 In November of 2016, two Georgia men were arrested on drug charges and reportedly plotting 653 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,760 domestic terrorism at harp. 654 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Apparently they were plotting to destroy harp. 655 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,720 So these conspiracy theories can have a real impact on things happening. 656 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,600 Despite the fact that like harp is just owned by a university and there's not much it's 657 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,120 doing, it's still topics for people that are a little bit crazy. 658 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,240 Like we talked about with the infrastructure, it's not that protected. 659 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,160 And if you can get there, it would be pretty easy to mess up. 660 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680 That's exactly what it just reminded me of. 661 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,160 I do need to bring it all back to that one thing that I said that it was studying ionospheric 662 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,840 enhancement technologies. 663 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,200 One of the things that harp does is not only study the ionosphere, it can create a heated 664 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,240 area in the ionosphere that's about 100 miles wide, which seems huge. 665 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:46,560 But if you really think about this teeny tiny in an area above the earth, surface area wise, 666 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,880 and what it basically does is it heats this area so that submarines can communicate with 667 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,200 people on ground because the low frequencies are able to bounce off it and subs need to 668 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400 use low frequency communication. 669 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,600 And that's also why the Navy was involved in it initially. 670 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,480 All these things he didn't know. 671 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,000 I didn't know. 672 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Interesting. 673 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680 But that's where I'm going to leave it off. 674 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,760 At some point in the future we'll probably talk about a band by the name of Peter Kirby, 675 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,920 the man who does not know what to do with his hands. 676 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,720 Chelsea, I need you to go to PeterKirby.com and just look at the About Me page. 677 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:20,960 And he bought me this. 678 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,000 I don't know what to do with my hands. 679 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,320 This is Peter Kirby. 680 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,040 He combines chemtrails and harp. 681 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,360 And yes, he does not know what to do with his hands. 682 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,760 And that is his coast to coast biography pictures. 683 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,520 I can't even with this pose. 684 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,520 What the hell is that? 685 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,600 I spelt this wrong. 686 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,000 It's PeterAkirby.com. 687 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Oh, okay. 688 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Peter Aker. 689 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,520 I'm going to steal this pose. 690 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,000 This guy seems to lack any sort of social understandings. 691 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,400 I've watched a few videos of him. 692 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,040 I don't think the swastika right next to him is intentionally placed. 693 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,040 Oh no. 694 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,040 Yep. 695 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:06,760 And this is also skipping out on another man who I think will end up getting his own episode, 696 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Kevin Martin, who is, this is directly from him, a quote, I have Asperger syndrome. 697 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960 You shit, so I'm gifted in only one subject. 698 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,600 This is why I will always be better at weather than you. 699 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,080 I have that disability and I am known as the weather savant. 700 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,600 You people can only study the subject where I have that ability to understand it without 701 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,600 studying it. 702 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,920 What's up with her people? 703 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Yeah. 704 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Anyhow, these people will get their own episodes in the future. 705 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120 For now, that's hard. 706 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,400 It's studying the ionosphere. 707 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,200 It was used as a giant antenna for communicating with submarines. 708 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080 It apparently can control the weather and could lead to climate change. 709 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:51,600 It was an odd episode to do because you had to narrow it down. 710 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,600 There are so many different ways it can go. 711 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,600 That was great. 712 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,240 That was a good way to. 713 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,160 Chelsea, anything you want to add before we finish off? 714 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,000 No, I can't get over this guy's pose. 715 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Wow. 716 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080 I feel very enlightened right now. 717 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,400 Thank you for enlightening me. 718 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,400 You're welcome. 719 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,320 And I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 720 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