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Now your favorite podcast, as decreed by us, we are your podcast host Taylor and Chelsea.
And today we're going to go on a bit of a royalty tour, Chelsea.
This is going in no way the way that you think it's going right now.
Yeah.
I'm going to start it off this way.
Chelsea, when I say Queen of Canada, what does that make you think?
Oh, right.
Probably it's not me.
I wish it was me.
Maybe like King Charles.
I would have said Elizabeth, but Charles actually fits the demeanor as well.
And my God is his mom.
No, I got nothing.
If I were to just say Queen of Canada, I think that's the right way to say it.
However, I'm actually talking about somebody known as the Queen of the Kingdom of Canada,
which is an entirely different thing, apparently.
And my God, I think this is our first trip down the QAnon rabbit hole.
But today, Chelsea, we are covering a Canadian by the name of Romana de Dulo.
Have you ever heard of this woman?
No, I've never seen her on a coin either.
Well, I don't think at least.
Oh, wait.
currency will come off.
Okay.
So, that's definitely a part of this episode.
Be prepared to learn a lot.
But today, we're going to cover QAnon movement, I guess.
It's really hard to say in Canada with the Q being Queen of Canada.
What?
Yeah.
Is that what the Q stands for?
No, the Q stands for clearance level that original person said they had.
And basically QAnon came about because this person said that Trump was actually running
behind the scenes to drain the swamp and was going to have everybody executed.
It was super weird.
It's still very around, despite the fact that Donald Trump lost an election and the original
guy who made all these planes has disappeared as well.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
We're not going to focus on that part of it.
We're going to focus on Romana here.
Now, Romana is surprisingly enough a Filipino woman born in the 70s.
We're not really sure when it's probably early to mid, either 71 or 74.
Moves to Canada in 1990 to Vancouver with her family.
Had it not been for QAnon and extreme right wing larping, she would largely be unknown,
possibly homeless, but she didn't.
2016 is where we're really going to pick up the story because up until that time, there's
nothing really eventful that happens in her life.
Okay.
She forms what's called the Canada First Party, which you can still find remnants of
on her YouTube page, Canada First, Felt1ST.
And this will introduce you to what Romana looks like.
Do I have to go there?
You can if you want.
Canada First Party of Canada.
There are eight episodes in total.
Nothing has been posted on this YouTube page for three years.
And Chelsea, once you get there, I need you to tell me if that's what you envisioned the
Queen of Canada looking like.
Canada First Party of Canada, is that a woman?
No, wasn't expecting that.
Hello Canada, I'm Romana Didolo.
I'm the founder and leader of Canada First.
Today I would like to speak with you about taxes, personal income tax, small and medium
businesses tax, large corporations tax, GST, and carbon tax.
Let's start with your personal income tax.
If you are earning $50,000 a year or less, you will pay zero income tax.
And from $50,000 to $500,000, you will pay 5%.
If you are a senior citizen earning $100,000 a year or less, you will pay zero income tax.
And from $100,000 to $500,000, you will pay 5%.
First off, it's not noticeable in this video because it's her standing alone.
She is tiny.
She's under five feet.
I wouldn't call her overweight, just an average person, but very short.
Not that authoritative in how she sounds.
And at this point too, I should say a lot of this episode is going to rely on journalism
that was done by Mack Lamoro out of Vice News.
She's been following her around for a long time, just reporting on this madness.
If you want to learn more, go to Vice, read this guy.
He's done great work on her.
Okay, I'm Vice, eh?
I love it.
Yeah, great job.
CBC Global and Vice are the three that really have done sufficient journalism on this.
Okay, and I'll read it to her in front of a Canadian flag.
Yeah, it's always in front of a Canadian flag and it's just random stories.
One of them is just explaining tax rates under her party.
It's literally her just saying, if you make under 100,000, you don't pay taxes.
If you make more, it's 5%.
And she just says to the numbers and like, that's it.
It's very simplified.
But you can see right from the start, she has a lot of libertarian leadings.
Like the video I sent you is about whether or not she wears a mask.
It's right as soon as it hits, it becomes very clear the direction she's going to be
taking.
And she says in that video, she'll never wear a mask.
Okay.
Once COVID kind of hits, things start to change for her.
She gets involved in QAnon on the message board.
She has her own telegram.
And in September of 2020, she says that she was appointed Queen of the Kingdom of Canada
by a man by the name of David J. Carlson, who calls himself the Commander-in-Chief or
the King of the United States.
Oh no.
Crazy enough.
The reason she gets appointed.
She led a 2017 mission against Chinese Communist military people that were occupying underground
tunnels in Canada, where they were producing Adrena Chrome and trafficking humans and planning
to start World War III by attacking the United States.
So she led that effort.
What?
Okay.
He also stated in this video on September 17th, 2021, I am the head of state commander-in-chief
and head of government and Queen of Canada, replacing Queen Elizabeth II of England, who
has now been executed for crimes against humanity.
Okay.
And are there people that just accept this as so much?
Yeah.
And they live in Canada?
Yeah.
Some of them.
So she has a following of about 70,000 to 80,000 people, between all her social media
is probably the biggest one being telegram.
She does have a YouTube channel too for the Kingdom of Canada and a website, the kingdom
of Canada dot CA, where she posts all her decrees.
Yep.
Found this.
Oh, that's a much better picture of her.
If you can see, there's a better picture of her.
Well, she's really grown into her, uh, regality, I guess.
So you could just declare this of yourself, hey?
Well, she decreed it.
She lived in Victoria during this time, which I don't think is that important.
Weirdly enough, as a BC resident, so I didn't know that before I started doing this research,
but she doesn't stay that way very long.
Okay.
When the vaccine comes out in November of 2021, she ended up getting detained by the
RCMP, mostly because she made a decree on her website and on YouTube that all vaccines
must be destroyed.
She also told her followers that they need to shoot to kill healthcare providers who
vaccinate minors against COVID-19.
Yeah.
She's made very specific comments that you'll get an extra bullet in the head for each child
that you vaccinated.
Oh my God.
They basically did a mental health check.
There's a law in BC where basically if you're showing signs of mental health issues, you
can be detained for 48 hours for an evaluation, but she passed it, was released.
That was in November of 2021.
And at the start of 2022, she started what she considers her cross-Canada tour.
And I think at this point, really, it just meant that she's living out of an RV.
Yeah.
And basically her whole group lives out of like three RVs that travel across Canada.
Okay.
As of May 24th, 2022, she had a statement when she was in a parking lot in Quebec where
she was promoted to Queen of the World, her press secretary said.
And this was a big development for the burgeoning leader, one that would bring them legitimacy
and she urged those who followed D'Dulo to stand up for their queen.
And this is a quote from the press secretary.
Queen Romana has done all of the heavy lifting and now it is up to we, the people, to stand
in our authority and put these decrees into place.
The only visible leader on this planet is her royal majesty Queen Romana, period.
And that's a mic drop.
She didn't actually drop the mic.
She said that's a mic drop.
I mean, it can't afford to drop a mic.
If you're holding the mic, you might as well just drop it instead of saying that because
it doesn't feel like you're serious if you don't drop the mic.
Yeah.
For real.
Can't just say drop mic drop.
Whenever she's traveling around, I found it really hard to get in a figure of like
what this looks like.
It seems like it's about 20 to 25 people that kind of travel with her.
Okay.
So she has what are those called?
Entourage.
Yeah.
I guess an entourage is a better word for it.
Except for this next part that's coming up.
Actually it seems like when she was doing this cross country tour, she was having followers
tell her that she could stay in their area or hold her up so that she could park the
RVs in a certain location.
And this is how the like when she gets to places, sometimes there's more followers than
others.
In August of 2022, they made a stop in Peterborough, Ontario, where approximately 30 of her followers
went to the Peterborough police department and attempted to seize police officers and
what they characterize as a citizen's arrest for COVID crimes.
Okay.
And did that go well for them?
They went up to the police.
Didulo did not get out of the vehicle at all.
Well, why would you?
It's not going to go well.
She was in a vehicle park nearby and she also claimed that military forces would appear
to help them detain the police officers when they were there, which surprisingly never
happened.
Now, six demonstrators end up laying hands on police officers to arrest them, which doesn't
go great for them.
They end up getting charged with assaulting police officers.
Basically, that happens.
They get arrested.
The rest disperse.
And didulo later says on one of her live streams on Telegram that she had been present
in Peterborough merely as an observer and not as a participant.
Yeah.
I mean, she did observe that.
An investigation into claims made by one of her supporters stated he was seriously injured
during the arrest, but this investigation was closed in December of 2022 after the complainant
refused to provide evidence to the special investigation unit.
I know this is at the wrong place to bring up, but I'm looking at it right now.
What exactly is Telegram?
Telegram is basically a messaging service.
I believe it's self-delete, but it's kind of like a conservative version of WeChat.
Those groups have really clung onto it as this way that they're going to communicate.
You can ask for access to her Telegram channel where she talks to everyone and does her royal
decrees, but then you have to download the app.
So I would...
Yeah, I'm trying to get in and I can't.
This one has the best profile picture.
It's her sitting at like a couple of computers looking like she's concentrating, and there's
like some purple and white flags in the background.
Yeah.
That's her flag for the Kingdom of Canada that says like love on it or whatever with the
horse.
Like official flags made.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, continue.
Weirdly, she seems to have gotten a lot of her power from QAnon when the official first
Q kind of disappeared.
She kind of took up the reins as one of the leaders of the movement.
Well, that would make sense if you're putting yourself out there as like very against vaccination
and mass and stuff like that.
People just like were so polarized about it that if they saw someone talking about that
and working on it, I'm sure they'd get behind her 100%.
Yeah.
And she really codes a lot of her language in the Freeman movement, which is basically
Chelsea, I don't know if you know the Freeman movement, but it's basically one of those
no laws apply to me because I know the legal loopholes.
People like people get pulled over by the police and they don't have registrations or
a license because they say that no, I'm not a corporation.
Therefore I do not need licenses to participate in society.
You can't arrest me because you don't have the authority, maritime law applies, the torts
of Canada don't have any jurisdiction because they don't technically fly Canadian flags,
like super weird loopholes.
Are those things?
Yeah, they're called free man on the land where they basically believe that no laws
actually apply to them.
They don't pay taxes.
I know they believe it, but is that actually a thing?
No, it's not a real thing.
Okay, that's why I'm saying that.
There are people who do it.
You can't just loophole your way out of paying taxes unless you have a billion dollars in
which case your lawyers will loophole it out.
And not having laws apply to you, that's not fair.
And maritime law makes me think of arrested development.
Actually a really famous one in Kelowna here, his name is David Lindsay, I believe.
Oh yeah, I remember him.
He is actually labeled as a vexatious litigant in BC, so he can't bring lawsuits in BC without
having to talk to the court and they'll say, okay, this is actually a reasonable lawsuit,
you can bring it.
Because he's sued so many people that they were vexatious.
Oh my gosh.
I'm surprised they would even hear him out at that point if he's done it so much.
But he's in court right now because he assaulted a security guard at a COVID rally.
I was just going to say he was the anti-vaxxer guy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But anyhow, all of his money actually comes from giving seminars on how you don't actually
have to pay taxes.
Oh, wow, sounds lucrative.
I mean, I could do that too.
But anyhow, this is such a weird group, the QAnon thing, but it's not one thing in itself.
And in fact, there's a whole bunch of controversy around whether or not Kelowna is Queen of
Canada or if she's an undercover operative for the government that's meant to make everything
look ridiculous and lie to them.
So yeah, Tadullo has not been universally adopted within the QAnon movement with some
influence warning she might be a government operative tasked with discrediting the movement.
She responds to this by threatening her detractors with execution as you do.
As you do when you're a queen.
Yeah.
Around this time, the Peterborough thing goes on at the trucker protest, which really wasn't
truckers at the end of the day, but whatever, that's a whole other thing.
She shows up at that and apparently she decided to burn a Canadian flag.
No idea why.
But at this point, she gets denounced by a lot of QAnon, including David Carlson, who
appointed her Queen of Canada, and he says that he's appointed a new monarch of Canada
ending the relationship with Tadullo.
Wait, shouldn't we be doing an episode on that person?
And hold on.
I don't know who it ends up going to.
She's an immigrant, right?
Yeah.
In this country and she burns the Canadian flag.
And also has a political party called Canada First.
And like one of the last things about Canada First is that we need to secure the border.
Okay.
Yeah.
But Tadullo says that's not really Carlson, you idiots.
It may just be a clone of Carlson who was put there to disinform you.
So what is the story you're telling?
And at this point, I think it's important that we talk about her decrees and things
that she's saying.
I have them up right here.
The decrees are all over the map.
There's way too many emojis in there for this.
I was literally just going to make that comment.
I have a page up that's full of emojis and I was going to tell you there seems to be
a lot of emojis.
Yeah.
But some of the claims that she's made, one, she is an extraterrestrial with access to
secret new age healing technologies.
Hold on.
Do blue avians come up?
Blue avians do not come up, unfortunately.
Okay.
Does David Wilcock?
I don't think so.
He might.
I don't.
Okay.
Let's just leave it open.
Yeah.
I think we're going to talk throughout this episode, I think.
Yeah, he's in it.
For sure.
She also abolished utility bills and debts, just in general, debts.
When we don't pay our utility bills, we just cite this decree, right?
We're going to get to that later on here.
Okay.
She also banned the extraction of Adrena Chrome in Canada, which Chelsea, I don't, do you
know what Adrena Chrome is?
Yeah, I've read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
That's the address of England.
But this is a QAnon thing where they harvest it from children to keep you young.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So yeah, she outlawed it.
It's really hard to get your hands on, that's for sure.
And specifically, like, you have to murder the children to get the Adrena Chrome.
Yeah.
No, that's that.
And that was a joke that I said.
Not in good taste, I don't think, but I said it nonetheless.
And she also says that she doesn't worry about security because she has an amirata of spacecrafts
watching over her at all times.
She's also good friends with Vladimir Putin, who she talks to on a regular basis.
Yeah, he lives in the UFO, I think.
Anyhow, she does her cross-Canada thing.
She makes it to Peterborough.
By the winter of 2022, she ends up in Nova Scotia, kind of slowly making her way that
way.
And then in March of 2023, she starts issuing her own money.
Is that not illegal?
It would be if you're trying to use it as currency.
You want to use it?
She was saving it.
Like, this is really weird at this point.
First off, it doesn't look anything like Canada bucks or, you know, Canadian dollars,
as we call them, colloquially.
Canada bucks are actually what they are.
They're basically the size of a check.
They have 100,000 written on them.
They have her seal on it.
And like, that's it.
And she starts handing these out to people that are following her.
And it's like not specified what backs the security at all.
It just says 100,000 on it.
She gives it to her closest followers as a first step to a more general distribution.
And several of her fans said they were hoping to use these dollars that she's giving out
to start paying their bills for utilities, mortgages, anything that they can, even though
she specifically says, don't use these.
We can't use these yet.
Like I'm giving them to you.
But like once the decree hits, you can start using them, but these aren't to be used at
all.
Okay.
So she crowdfunded the cost of it.
And then she also started requesting more money in that press conference where she gave
out all the money.
I was just going to ask where she's getting all this money because like obviously she
had a nice seal done up.
She had some flags made.
She's given a fake money.
It's basically through donations from her followers.
Vice News reported that she had crowdfunded over the time she's been the Queen of Canada
at least $140,000.
They have no idea how much though because obviously she's a private citizen.
She would have to make declarations and show us.
It's not like she's a publicly traded company.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So the money has the look of a novelty check or board game money.
And despite their cheap look, the Dullo promised her fans that they have interdimensional security
devices on them.
And in chat rooms dedicated to Dullo, her fans celebrated the false hope given to them.
One person said that he's going to attempt to pay his utility bills with the money.
And another said she's excited because they've been living in their car and this could get
them a roof over their head.
Oh no.
And this is a quote from this person.
I am so hopeful that the loyalty money will allow me to purchase a prefab home or one
of those tiny homes.
How wonderful that would be for me and many others like me around Canada.
I can't wait to hear when or how I can use this loyalty money for this purpose.
That's the end of the quote.
Although loyalty money that she handed out can only be used as she has said at certain
realtors.
She does not specify any of them.
And then she promised her followers that one day soon she would make all her followers
extremely wealthy.
This is a quote that she gave one day.
Her Royal Majesty Queen Romana will issue a royal decree giving instructions to when
and where and whom can cash their loyalty money with the instructions to the Kingdom
of Canada Treasury to cash the checks on a property in Nova Scotia on February 26 of
2023.
Several of Dullo's followers came to the property to take an oath declaring their sovereignty
under natural law in front of Dullo before they could receive their loyalty money.
They had to say aye their name hereby received this hundred thousand backed by gold and silver
loyalty money of the Kingdom of Canada under the natural law and so it is.
That was their oath.
And then they watch her sign the money.
There were 13 people who did this declaration.
Two of them were kids.
Yep those were the checks.
And at the end of this ritual Dullo gave a short speech that she had just made these
people sovereign citizens.
That's a different term for a free man on the land.
And they are now free of the traditional banking system.
She showed a video of the animated version of Aladdin showing the genie being set free
to symbolize how she was setting her followers free from the current economic system.
Owing to the secretive nature of this group and how strictly they control the narrative
they put out to their audience.
It's very difficult to ascertain what actually goes on inside.
This is Matt who is talking about the journalist.
He has been granted a bit of insight from a few former members who are willing to share
stories of their time with Dullo both on and off the record.
There's a woman by the name of Kim Churchill, an Ontario woman used to work at a radio
station but that was many years ago.
She first learned of Dullo from a mutual acquaintance in 2021 while the crew were on their nonstop
Canadian road trip.
Churchill came to believe in Dullo rather quickly and eventually reached out to offer
her aid. To gain access to the Queen she had to do a video call with two of Dullo's most
diehard followers.
Kaven, a young man from Quebec who is Dullo's driver, security guard and friends translator
and Darlene, a woman from BC who had become her chief of staff and is essentially Dullo's
personal assistant.
Upon hearing that Churchill was willing to bring them goods and a trailer and used to
work in the media, Kaven and Darlene gave her the okay to come up and she traveled to
Nova Scotia to join the group full time.
It was very cultish, Churchill told Vice News with Ben and Bear as we talked over the phone
and some weeks after she left the group.
Quote, I've never been a cult but that's a cult. It's definitely a cult.
And quote.
Yeah, I was just thinking it has some cult like qualities but is Cura considered a cult?
I guess it really depends on like as a whole like the just the messaging board. Not necessarily
but it has a lot of cult characteristics.
It does, yeah.
Like this group that follows this woman around definitely a cult.
Definitely. Are you going to read any of these decrees?
No, because they don't make any sense.
Can I read this one just quick? It has to do with what you're talking about.
Yeah.
This one is Decree 157, re-election and religion funding equals zero. Star emoji. Her majesty,
I am Queen Romana at HRM Queen Romana de Dullo. Star emoji, head of state and commander in
chief, head of government, queen and president.
Oh yeah, sorry. I call her Queen of Canada for short. She has a real long title.
Yeah. September 17, 2023, which is not that long ago. In the Kingdom of Canada, Royal Decree,
re-election, yeah, okay, she has all her official headings. I am HRM Queen Romana de Dullo,
commander in chief, president, national, indigenous chief, head of government, head of state and
queen of the Kingdom of Canada. Hereby issued the Royal Decree effective today, September
17, 2023, prohibiting the use of the We the People's Money from being spent on politics,
political activities and religious activities. All the previous funding allocated to political
activities and religious activities is to be returned to the Kingdom of Canada's national
treasury immediately. This Royal Decree is effective immediately and retroactively on
July 1st, 1867.
This is how all of them end and begin with what I said. And so it is, happy face, finger
pointing up, handwriting, the justice scales. Maybe that's a palace alien head. And then
it's always alien. Underneath this, this makes no sense to me. It's like a magnifying glass
with one, two, three, four, five frogs, magnifying glass, five frogs, magnifying glass, five
frogs.
That is shorthand for Pepe, that meme frog QAnon grabbed onto.
Okay, I was wondering why that was on every single page. So yeah, I just wanted to read
all her stuff.
And usually there's a hashtag on there. It's like WWG.
Oh yeah, WWG1, WWG, sorry, it's on the next page. Then the prayer hands and earth.
That is shorthand for another QAnon thing. It means where we go one, we go all.
Okay.
Which was a rallying cry on January 6th.
Oh, okay, I didn't know this. I don't know anything about QAnon apparently. Yeah, I
just had to read that because this is like insane.
And yeah, I'm going to keep going into what Churchill said here. The group fluctuates
in size as people are constantly coming and going, but typically sits between six and
12 diehard Dodulo heads. For months, they lived on the front yard of a local Dodulo
fan, a woman who runs a holistic health store in Tata Maguchi or Tata Maguche in Nova Scotia
and a collection of RVs and trailers that appear to barely be winter proofed. They didn't
have enough food and much of what they did have was rotten because of a lack of proper
storage. What Churchill found only reinforced how shitty life is for roving Dodulo acolytes.
Multiple former members of the cult have told Vice News, those who stay with the Dodulo
face never ending abuse and threats. Four sleeping arrangements, limited and unhealthy
diets and have their lives micromanaged by Dodulo.
Dodulo was no different. While she said that the leader seems personable and nice initially,
she's quick to snap and screams at her followers. She's incredibly paranoid, worried about
infiltrators and ex followers out to get her and set up several security cameras on the
property that two of her crew needed to watch at all times. And those living there were
expected to stay within the cameras sights. Direct quote here. Everyone has to say their
whereabouts if they have to go off camera. Like if someone was going to go to the shed
and get a shovel, they had to announce they're going to the shed. Then they're in the shed.
Then they're getting the shovel. Then they're leaving the shed. Now they're on their way
back to the trailer. Like it was step by step, like micromanaging, like on a level I've
never seen before. If she said you have 15 minutes, you had 15 minutes. If you take 16
minutes, you're hearing about it. She's yelling at you. Sounds fun. A typical day at the Nova
Scotia campground starts with a group getting up around 7am and clearing out the blinding
security lights they set up the night before. And then there's a safety check of all the
vehicles. Once everything is copacetic, they pile into D'Dulo's RV, which is called the
Command Centre. Chelsea, you can find photos of it's covered in stuff about the Queen
of Canada. And when D'Dulo is finally ready to address her audience, they all stand, some
crating their heads so as to not hit the roof of the trailer. And as she exits the RV's
bedroom area into the kitchen, she then launches into her daily speech and the day's tasks
are assigned. She'll keep her followers busily unproductive all day. This is another common
refrain from those who traveled with D'Dulo, that she keeps her crew so busy that they
have no time for themselves or to fight back. Like with many hierarchical communities, the
abuse trickles downwards. D'Dulo will lose her mind on second in command, who will scape
go to another person and so on. The group wasn't just dealing with abuse from a control and
cult leader who they believe is a royal alien. They're also living in filth. The trailers
are occasionally full of rotting food and tract in mud and dog shit. Even though they
lived, only steps away from a sizeable ranch style home, D'Dulo forced her followers to
go days and even weeks without showers or doing laundry. D'Dulo meanwhile had a private
bathroom on her RV and when it broke, she kicked followers off the second RV and turned it
into her own private toilet. There's a feeling of paranoia among those staying with D'Dulo.
They routinely eatie rat each other out for forbidden behavior and get others in trouble
with their queen. They were told to keep secrets from other people who lived on the property
and were constantly at each other's throats. And the worst job of all was that of D'Dulo's
personal assistant, which is currently held by Darlene. This organization of wasted energy
proliferate the group. Multiple members told Vice News, for example, they would invite
people to stay with them, but no plan for where they would sleep. When one man arrived,
D'Dulo told Churchill, she hadn't received a download for that yet, and just forced everyone
to cram together in one trailer, meaning three women were up in a small trailer with a man
who no one knew. And the man eventually ended up sharing a single bed with one of the women.
And in many ways, the dog on the property, and there are many, were treated better than
D'Dulo's people. The queen certainly seemed to care about the two dogs she adopted and
they were dubbed the royal puppies. Although she also recently said that she fed them Ivermectin,
the veterinary dewormer drug that became a COVID-denired drug disorder during the pandemic.
At one point, Darlene told her followers that D'Dulo exercised a demon from one of the puppies,
who was being lethargic. And in one case, Churchill said that she was told D'Dulo made
cave-in, who was, remember, one of her most important followers, sleep on the floor of
an RV while the puppies slept on the bed. So that just kind of gives you an idea of what
kind of person this is. And this group. Yeah, this is pretty messed up. Yeah, they end up
getting kicked out of this small town in Nova Scotia. There was a town of about 700 people.
They end up driving them out. That sounds about right for the small towns in Nova Scotia.
The group ends up going to Saskatchewan. In September of 2023, they get kicked out of
a small town by the name of Kansak. This one guy, Ricky Manns, who lives in Richmount,
Saskatchewan, he bought a school. Like it was an old public school he bought and he
was going to turn it into a cannabis grow-off. He started a company called Cann Abyss Botanicals.
He's like, oh, I own a school. Why don't you guys just stay here? From September of last
year to early this year, they've been living in this school in Richmount, Saskatchewan,
a town of about 150 people. And let me guess, is there like running water or anything like
this? Is it like... We thought a lot's actually known about the school. And in fact, the town
of 100 people doesn't even think it's legally zoned for people to sleep in. 100 people.
Like there's only two public buildings really that aren't houses in this town. The school
and the hockey rink. Oh my God. Oh, here it is. Anyhow, they're staying in it. Nobody
knows what's going on in there. But this town is super pissed off. This guy let them stay
there. And she keeps giving royal decrees from the school, sending cease and desist
letters to the city council and basically saying if they don't follow her decrees,
they will be executed in the playground. Can you imagine? Can't you call the cops on
them? I don't... You can? But the cops have a really weird relationship with her in that
like technically she's made vague threats, nothing specific to be acted upon. I mean...
They can do the mental health check. Executing someone in the play around seems pretty pointy.
I know. That's what I think too. But at the same time, she's made these threats 100 times
and like nothing's ever come of them other than one wellness check. Okay. That's because
she like probably puts it on her stationery. She doesn't really sign. She emojis them.
That's how you know it's official signature. Oh my gosh. This is insane. That happens.
This town is super pissed off. They go and talk to people from camsack and they're like,
how did you get her out of there? So they had a protest in October trying to drive them
out and like just honking their horn so that nobody can talk and they're all super upset.
I think during this protest that the town had, Rick Mans ends up getting charged with
the assault by the RCMP. He ended up just having his first court appearance for it. Finally,
they see on a telegram live stream that she had this like propane heater set up in the
school and they're like, thank God. I think that's a fire issue. So they get the fire
marshal to go check it out. And when he shows up, they just leave. They don't even have
to get kicked out. They just leave. Oh, so they're not in the school anymore. They're
not in the school. They're 11 kilometers out of town staying on farmland. Oh my gosh.
I can see like in a big city where it's like, okay, ignore it and they go away. But like
in a town of 100 people, yeah, would probably be so pissed too, because they're like probably
taking up more space than everyone in the town does. Well, yeah, they just increase
the city's like population by almost 50% by living in the school. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my
gosh. They have that big security thing. So it's not like they're quiet or small or unbeknownst.
Yeah. But yeah, currently they're living on this farmland outside of Rich Mound. Town
people are relieved, but they don't fully think it's the last sale have seen of her.
And I have no idea what to expect from the Queen of Canada from here on out. Oh, this
is a full story. I can tell you that there have been significantly negative impacts for
people who are following her, particularly people who believe her decrees. I found one
story out of Red Deer where this woman took her decrees very seriously and said, Oh, I
don't need to pay my mortgage anymore because she outlawed debts and banks. Right. So she
just stopped paying her mortgage. The banks have foreclosed on Bonnie and her husband.
According to court documents seen by Vice News, the DeDulo fan owes over $150,000 on
her mortgage, which she stopped paying because the Queen told her the banking system was
fake and the debt would eventually be forgiven. This is a quote from this Bonnie who's losing
her house. Queen Ramona said the white hats, which are the forces DeDulo followers believe
fight alongside them are in charge of the banks. So I was shocked when I was foreclosed
on at the end of October, going on three months now with them trying to get access to list
my house, giving me till January 31st to comply or remove us with force. The kids were really
great when we had the power and gas disconnected. They went with the flow, but to have them
removed from their home is not right. Oh my God, people are so stupid. One of DeDulo's
most damaging actions is her Royal Decrees, a series of proclamations she made about rules
that exist in her version of Canada, but obviously have no impact in reality. Decrees, which
include statements that rent, power, and utilities are all free. DeDulo's fans celebrated these
decrees and most I heard is declared they stopped paying their bills. Now many of the
very same followers are discussing their power being shut off or homes being foreclosed.
Bonnie recently begged DeDulo that the Royal Decrees need to be enforced before she loses
her home. Court documents indicated on January 31st of 2024, Bonnie and her family will be
forcibly removed from the property listed by a real estate agent on behalf of the bank
and Bonnie and her family had lived in that property since 2011. Oh my God. So this group,
although it is ridiculous and mind-shittingly insane, some people actually believe it and
it is hurting them in such severe ways. Yeah. I don't know what I expected from this episode,
but that's what I got for you. That was a whole lot of learning for me because I literally
knew that none of this existed. And I also learned in looking at the decrees that she
had that she is, hold on, let me pull it up again. I had to number 162, rebanding and
prohibiting the use of We The People's money to fund all private secret spy agencies, including
five eyes equals zero, dismantle all. So she is also aware of five eyes and does not like
the work they're doing. So there's some pretty amazing decrees. I love the work that Vice
does. And yeah, this is a cult. And like their flag, if you ever see it, is a purple flag,
a white maple leaf with a golden sword in the middle. And over top, it says God loves
you. It's a little different from her seal on her decrees, which says humanity, peace,
prosperity, then underneath God, creator, light, love. This one's golden purple. Still
has a sword, no maple leaf in sight, though. If you ever see that logo on an RV, you're
in the presence of royalty. I do need to just include this. I don't think it has much to
do with this whole story, but it does link back to previous episodes on the Wikipedia
page for Romana. There's specifically an entire section called Theosophy. What? In her persona
as Queen of Canada, Dodulo presents a spiritual worldview that borrows elements and symbolism
from the Theosophical movement of Helena Bovatsky and esoteric groups in the same lineage.
That's just Guy and Edna's Ballard's I Am Organization and Elizabeth Claire Prophet's
Church Universal and Triumphant. Although Dodulo never acknowledges these influences,
religious studies, researcher Carmen Celestini and Armineth Amarizingum argue that, quote,
parallels between her movement and those from the past are hard to conceive of as simply
coincidental. Some of her followers appear to be aware of the esoteric affiliation as
they sometimes use concepts promoted by those groups when discussing Dodulo. As with Dodulo,
the use of decrees were a central feature of the I Am movement, both as commands from
the ascended master and as a request from the supplicants for the payments of bills
and other blessings. The decrees were also used by the Church Universal and Triumphant
with a change of tone that anticipates some of Dodulo's more belligerent utterances.
Dodulo's followers are urged to read her decrees every night and discuss their content
among them. The purple flame was a central symbol used by the Guy and Edna Ballard's
which were often called Twin Flames, which is something Chelsea and I actually just watched.
An expression Dodulo sometimes uses in her messages and her references to the etheric
domain also appear to be borrowed from the spiritual leaders.
So yeah, this is a very troubling group and it's not huge, but it has a cult following.
It was a requested episode, I thought we should give an idea, and it was really just somebody
wanted an update on what was happening with that school in Saskatchewan, and I just felt
like we needed to know more about the Queen. I've never heard about her, so I appreciate
the suggestion for the episode because now I feel like I've grown as a person having
known that this is existing in Canada. I'm a little bit speechless after that, though,
that this is going on. And we'll give you guys updates as things
progress, but I don't think there will be enough for a wholly own episode again. But
in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank
you all for listening and we'll see you next week.
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