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Okay, we got feel good, you know the rest, feel bad, you know the rest of that too.

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Pretty sure this is bad, feeling uncertain, can't choose between good and bad feelings

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and feeling like science.

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Might I suggest to you, pretty sure this is bad for this week.

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Sure, I think this is our first delve into that in fact.

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Actually it's not.

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Oh, okay.

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Oh, because what I had filed under it was San Francisco will allow police to deploy robots

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that kill.

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I'm pretty sure that was bad.

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This one is from Vice News and it was published October 18, 2023.

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It is by Mac Lamarue and this one is titled, White Supremacist Killer Testifies He Was

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Radicalized by Conspiratorial Content.

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Ah, almost as if this might be applicable to what we've been talking about.

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Almost.

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A man who admits he ran down a Muslim family said he did so because he believed anti-Muslim

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conspiracies he found on fridge websites like Alex Jones Infowars.

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Alex Jones, as always, you know what the forefront of this amazing kind of murder boost.

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I'll talk more about him at the end of this article, I think.

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The admitted white nationalist who killed a Muslim family said he was inspired by neo-Nazi

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terrorists and anti-Muslim rhetoric he found on conspiracy websites like Infowars.

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Is that really what's on Infowars?

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Is anti-Muslim neo-Nazi stuff?

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Yeah.

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I didn't know that.

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Has it changed drastically?

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No, it's an over-generalization of what it is.

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It's always been like that, hey?

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But it's always been like that and it's still a correct generalization.

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How come I didn't know that?

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It goes on.

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Nathaniel Veltman, 22, is on his fifth day of testifying in the trial where he is facing

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four first-degree murder charges, one charge of an attempted murder charge, as well as

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terrorist charges.

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Veltman has pleaded not guilty to the charges but does not dispute that he ran down the

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family and wrote a racist manifesto just weeks before the killings.

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In an anti-Muslim screed he wrote before the killings and in a police interrogation

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which was shown to the jury, Veltman said he hoped to inspire more white nationalist

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vehicle attacks.

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On June 6, 2021, the accused driving a pickup truck ran down a family who were waiting to

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cross the street in London, Ontario.

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Oh no, this is Canada.

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Killing four of five of them.

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Nathan Afzal, 46, his wife Medea Salman, 44, their 15-year-old daughter, Yumna Afzal,

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and Salman Afzal, 74-year-old mother, Talaat Afzal were all killed in the attack.

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Only the family's 9-year-old son survived.

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Oh, that sucks.

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During his cross-examination by the Crown Tuesday, Veltman said that he fell into white

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nationalist police after falling down a radicalization pipeline.

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Quote, I consumed libertarian content, mainstream conservative content, he said on the stand,

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and I slowly started looking at some alt-right content on YouTube and then stumbled across

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some of the more French.

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End quote.

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The content he described focused on the great replacement, a popular conspiracy theory among

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the far-right focused on minorities taking over white majority countries, and the idea

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that Muslim violence is undercovered by mainstream media.

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Uncovered.

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Undercovered.

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Is it undercovered?

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It does say that.

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It's the idea that Muslim violence is undercovered by mainstream media.

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Oh, okay.

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He said that he consumed conspiratorial content like Alex Jones's info wars, where he found,

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quote, conspiracies that Middle Eastern wars were a conspiracy to try to bring Muslim immigration

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into Europe, end quote.

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This then led him to white nationalist content.

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Veltman has testified that he was inspired by the man who killed 52 Muslim people in

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Christchurch, New Zealand in 2018.

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Veltman had downloaded the rambling screed the mass murderer had written before the massacres

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as well as the live stream video of the mass killing.

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On the stand, Veltman attempted to portray the manifesto he wrote, which he dubbed a

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white awakening as not a true portrayal of his politics.

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I'm just going to see if there's anything else I need to cover in here because this

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is pretty dirt.

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I guarantee you that this was ever brought up on info wars because this was a while ago.

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What they would say is this guy's a disinformation agent or was pretending that he was a listener

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and it's a false flag to discredit info wars.

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They would say that, wouldn't they?

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Yeah, they always do that when it's somebody who is inconvenient for the stories.

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By they, I mean people like Alex Jones.

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Alex Jones in particular in this spot.

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If you want a good idea of how awful Alex Jones and info war is and everything in that

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media echo chamber, I think is the correct way to say it.

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There's a very good podcast out there called knowledge fight that literally just covers

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Alex Jones and debunking what he talks about on an episode by episode basis and just how

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ridiculous his actual talking points are and how wrong he is.

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99.9% of the time and the point 1% of the time he's just misunderstanding information.

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And I mean, he's always been like that.

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He just radicalizes everything.

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I didn't realize to what extent.

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Not only that he just radicalizes people, he doesn't even read anything.

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He like just reads headlines and then makes up a story from there.

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It's so strange though that he definitely has like an audience that just eats it all

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But this is strange for it.

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Well, and the way he covers topics too has gotten rid of any rational people in that

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group as well.

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Nobody will critically analyze anything he's saying at this point and talking about how

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you're surprised that it's neo-nazis and white supremes talking points.

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If you need a good example of this, go back and watch Kanye West, his interview on Infowars,

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because it shows you basically what he has is dog whistles to white supremes talking

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points.

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He doesn't outright say them.

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Instead, he kind of alludes to them through specific wording, which gives him false deniability.

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But when he's actually talking to somebody who calls himself a Nazi, it absolutely falls

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apart.

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And it is a great example of what, wow, there's actually no difference between him and a

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Nazi.

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I'm gonna have to watch this.

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That's crazy.

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I'm surprised he hasn't been, I know we were just talking about this last week in the

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Falun Gong and it was like, at least with a dictatorship, they can just like ban them

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and that's probably something like this reddit should be.

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I'm surprised he hasn't been, I know he's being sued for the Sandy Hook, but I'd like

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to see more people sue him because spreading stuff like that is dangerous.

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Oh God, have you heard him talk about his Sandy Hook trial?

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No.

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I've heard stories so much about actually what happened there.

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That's bizarre.

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I haven't watched him in so long and he's like three seconds away from a heart attack

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or something.

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He is in not a good health.

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Yeah, he is the embodiment of a binge induced heart attack.

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Like the man is just angry over the top.

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Again, go listen to Knowledge Fight, great podcast specific video, Jones.

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They covered his lawsuit and how he just keeps lying about it.

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They cover him on a bi-weekly basis.

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Oh, I'll have to check that out.

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I also just, I remember listening about him on Behind the Bastards as well.

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Yes, the guys from Knowledge Fight were on with Robert.

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Oh, that's who it was?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I listened to that a while ago.

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I'd like to listen to it again.

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Yeah, it was a good episode.

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We'll listen to both of those.

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And yeah, if you are somebody out there who believes Alex Jones is usually right about

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things.

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That's ever been.

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That is not correct at all.

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Generally what they're doing when they're showing videos of him being right, they are

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edited to not actually be what he said.

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Or they are one of the 40 different takes that he gave on a subject.

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And it's not even the last take.

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It's somewhere in like the middle.

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It's troublesome.

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Very troublesome.

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So the takeaway here is don't listen to Alex Jones unless it's a podcast about Alex Jones.

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And how terrible he is.

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What was it called?

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Knowledge Fight.

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Don't listen to info words.

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Knowledge Fight or behind the barriers.

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Yeah, listen to those.

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Anyhow, you got 48 hours.

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Go listen.

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They have like 800 episodes.

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So you're not going to be able to do that.

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So just come back here for 48 hours.

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Okay.

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Bye.