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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, a podcast with a below average death rate.
Because we have to assume the death rate of listening to podcasts is somewhere above zero.
And also that you guys would tell us if anyone died listening to our podcast.
We are the people whom you would tell if someone died listening to this podcast.
Taylor and Chelsea.
And today we take a look at what I would call an old classic.
However, there is something wrong with this old classic and that's that the audio is shit.
So we're taking it upon ourselves to get this information out there because it's good information.
It needs to be out there.
It's a good episode.
It needs to sound better and sound better.
It will with this take on it, I assume.
Chelsea, I will let you take it over from there.
I really hope we improve it with this re-recording and something doesn't like mysteriously happen
that makes it like even more shitty.
Also if anybody died, please tell Taylor and please tell him in Wailish because I have
no interest in knowing if anybody died listening to this podcast.
Okay, today we did we say what the topic is?
I did not.
I said it's a classic episode.
Okay, this classic episode is I don't know what it was named in the first place, but
it's weird paranormal Bigfoot, I think is what it's called.
And there's a lot of information that if you listen to the episode in its entirety, you're
going to hear again because I'm just, you know, redoing the episode.
So there's going to be a lot of things we've gone over, over and over again, because we've
been doing this for a while now.
So the official crypto zoology term refers to the study of animals whose existence or
survival is disputed or unsubstantiated.
However, there is a debate amongst researchers, Bigfoot specifically, being which plane he
could potentially exist on.
Now I know you know what a cryptid is at this point because we've covered it so many
times and we talk about it so much.
So you already know that term, but with Bigfoot, there's a lot of Bigfoot researchers.
There's a whole debate.
People don't want to talk about paranormal Bigfoot.
And then there's the other end of the spectrum where people just believe that Bigfoot is
a mammal that just has a discovery.
I think it's reasonable to say there's a group out there that say that Bigfoot is a cryptid
and there's, or sorry, there's people out there that research cryptids and go looking
for a cryptid creature, a physical creature.
And there's people who research paranormal and there's people that research UFOs and
they're actually like distinct categories that don't really interrelate or talk amongst
themselves.
They're very segregated groups.
They are.
And I would say that they probably hate the other one.
Maybe hate the wrong word, but they just don't want to see it from the other point
of view or share any sort of research that might indicate that it might be more paranormal
or anything.
They're really boxing it into different categories of what it could potentially be.
And in what you're limiting yourself, if you're just saying Bigfoot is an ape that
escaped from the zoo and he lives in the woods and we just can't find him, obviously
that's not what it is, but I'm just to bring my point home.
And he's been there for 200 years.
Yeah, so this episode, I'm doing it myself.
I'm guilty because this episode, I just wanted to focus on the really weird because more
often than not, you're going to see people speaking about Bigfoot in terms of because
they want to be taken seriously as much as you can with a cryptid.
So a lot of people are saying that Bigfoot is a physical being where there's a lot of
research that points to otherwise.
And I'm focusing on the otherwise.
There are many Bigfoot sightings that don't fit into a nice little box.
If this is an animal waiting to be discovered.
And it, yeah, I think my first introduction to this.
I'm sure it's probably yours as well was George Knapp had basically back in the day, had a
few people on who really talked about these more obscure Bigfoot encounters on coast to
coast a.m.
And I know when I was reading Skinwalker Ranch many years ago now, there is one reference
to a big foot getting into a UFO.
And that's the first time I'd really ever heard like, wait, there's stories of them
interacting with things that are paranormal or just like outside of this, just like gentle
creature in the woods.
That's what I said more likely than not, you're going to hear about Bigfoot being a physical
creature, not the weird ones where he's seen carrying a lantern or getting into a UFO or
in a UFO just like he thinks he's right.
That's what you're going to hear more often than not.
You're not going to hear these really weird things, which is what we're going to cover
in this episode.
John Green, which you all should be familiar with.
He's a local to my area actually has a quote that I think summarizes exactly what we're
trying to say here or the point I'm trying to get across.
And Chelsea as a Canadian, is this a relation to red green?
No.
Okay, it doesn't come up.
You know what?
It might.
It doesn't come up.
I can't just say no.
It might be Red Green's brother for all I know.
But John Green's quote is, if Bigfoot has been seen near UFOs, I would prefer to consider
it a coincidence or to assume that the occupants of the UFO were just looking at the Sasquatch
or vice versa.
End quote.
The Bigfoot research organization, BFRO, is notorious for throwing out any accounts
including anything with high strangeness in it.
So like I said, all of my sightings that I'm going to go over are very hard to find because
most of them are omitted by researchers because they don't fit the standard and specifically
because they don't make any sense by any natural means and in their eyes that just discredits
the information.
So let's get into some sightings, which is our favorite type of thing to talk about.
Well, mine at least.
I can't speak for everyone.
And I want to give a huge shout out on this episode to a book that I took some of these
sightings from.
Highly recommend it.
It's called Where the Footprints End, High Strangeness and the Bigfoot Phenomenon by Joshua
Cushion and Timothy Renner.
There are two volumes.
Very good books.
Bigfoot sightings actually go hand in hand with areas of high strangeness with higher
UFO activity and other cryptid sightings even.
One of the more well known examples I can give is Skinwalker Ranch like Taylor just
brought up where there is a high amount of paranormal happenings including not only big
foot sightings but also poltergeist activity.
Just not just those two.
There is like every strange thing you can't even imagine happening.
Highly recommend that book as well.
I had to read it outside during the day only when I was around people because it's quite
high strangeness heavy to say the least.
We also have a higher concentration of big foot sightings in areas where there are a
large number of UFO reports as well.
UFO sightings and big foot sightings surprisingly coincide together which happen quite often.
I was able to find a sighting going all the way back to 1888 where a rancher, they call
him a cattleman but I prefer rancher, described an encounter with friendly indigenous Americans
in Humboldt County, California.
It led him to a cave where he saw a hefty humanoid creature covered in long black hair
with no neck sitting cross-legged.
I really like that.
That's a great descriptor for Bigfoot.
He's a hefty little guy.
It really paints a good picture of just what statues he's at.
One of the Native Americans told him three crazy bears had been cast out of a small moon
that dropped from the sky and landed.
That quote moon ascended back into the air.
So 1888 that is quite the sighting and I don't know if the three crazy bears were hefty either.
Going on to the next one.
This one was investigated under Project Blue Book and this one goes back to Presque Isle
State Park in Erie, Pennsylvania July 31st 1966 and four tourists from New York had gotten
their cars stuck in the sand.
One member of the group left to call a tow truck and around 10pm police on patrol stopped
to ask if they were alright and they were told help was on the way and that one of the guys
left to call a tow truck so the police said they'll be back.
Upon the return 35 minutes later the group said they witnessed quote something weird
going on up there, end quote referring to the sky above the forest.
One of the group members left with the two police officers and the woman in the group
remained behind in the car.
Her names Betty Clem and the other is Anita Hilfey.
The men got about 300 yards away when they heard the car horn and upon the return the
lady said they witnessed a dull black shape bigger than man, big head and shoulders, arm
like appendages, no hands, no face visible as though it had its back turned appear in
front of the car before it lumbered into the bushes when the horn blew.
Investigators said it was a raccoon.
I always love that investigators think that whoever is making the sighting has no idea
what these creatures look like.
Never seen a raccoon before.
Never actually been a neighbor.
Never actually like opened a children's book that shows raccoons.
The UFO sighted in conjunction was described as an angular craft emitting red and orange
lights before descending down to the beach where it radiated a beam of white light that
tracks something into the woods.
Taking off shortly after the woman had their encounter with the creature.
Two officers patrolling the area indicated they noticed the presence of two unusual triangular
marks in the area coinciding with the craft's landing zone and stated I have no reasonable
explanation of the UFO.
And that's that one.
I could see why that made it into a project blue book because there was police officers
involved in the sighting as well.
Another sighting, October 25th 1973, a group of farmers in Fayette County, Pennsylvania
caught sight of a dome shaped UFO that was brightly lit and about a hundred feet in diameter.
It drove towards it and saw a pair of gargantuan creatures.
I'm loving the descriptive words for these things.
Yeah, although I wish more things were just hefty.
Like this all exists in a more obese society than ours.
Or exactly our society.
Exactly.
So the creatures recovered in thick matted hair, luminescent green eyes and long arms
that dangled below their knees.
I gotta pick up on the word dangled there.
It's like they had no like control over them.
They're just dangling.
Can you imagine those things running?
They're just with their arms to the side.
Just to the side, but like they have no control.
So just kind of going about.
And they're so long.
One of them fired a gun at the creature and one raised its right hand in the air and the
UFO disappeared at that moment and the two big foot escaped into the woods.
Okay, so who raised its right hand in the air?
I'm assuming it's a big foot.
I assume it was the dangly big foot.
Yeah.
Which actually throws right in our face the fact that they in fact do have control over
their arms unfortunately.
Yep.
A group of young boys in Trafford, Pennsylvania witnessed a white light January 10th, 1980.
The boys also reported tall creature covered in reddish brown fur, red glowing eyes, smelling
sulfurous.
That's a big one.
They watched the creature retreat into the woods where they heard branches breaking.
It then proceeded to throw rocks from the woods.
Okay, and then here's another one.
A dairy farmer, William Bosak was returning from a co-op meeting 10.30pm, December 9th,
1974.
I read that kind of backwards.
In Frederick, Wisconsin, he had a near miss with a globular UFO.
The descriptions of the UFOs as well are a little off on this.
Globular UFO.
In the road in front of him, the bottom was enshrouded in fog.
Like the transparent dome was a 7 foot tall ape-like creature with reddish brown fur covering
his body except his face and distinctive pointed ears.
And he appeared to be operating the control panel.
And then it suddenly disappeared before his eyes obviously because the Bigfoot was controlling
it.
He was probably like, I've been spotted.
Blip.
Oh, the reality.
This one's actually operating the craft.
So there's some sightings for you just with Bigfoot in general being associated with UFOs.
Now there are many things associated with paranormal Bigfoot, so I'm going to run through
them and give a few counters along with them.
Things such as self illuminated eyes known as eyeglow.
Eyeglow is different from eye shine, which you're going to see with like if you're driving
an EC-deer on the side of the road and their eyes glow back at you.
That's different from eyeglow.
Eyeglow is where the eyes are self illuminating and glowing.
It's not because it caught light.
You're walking through the woods with no flashlight and you just see like a pair of green eyes
watching you.
Yeah, kind of like cartoony eyes where it's like it's fish black except you can see eyes.
Yeah, which is more unsettling than just the eye shine.
There are many sightings which include this and it's not present in any species on earth.
So it's definitely not an earth thing to be happening where we're like, okay, we know
what animal that is.
Nocturnal animals have eye shine.
Deer have eye shine, bears and cats in which there is a light present to reflect.
Interestingly enough, moose do not.
Right, I did know that.
Which is why they're harder to see at night and you can hit with your cars.
Eyeglow colors can include orange, green, white, yellow and blue in Bigfoot's.
That has been spotted.
Oh, that is all over the math.
It really is.
Yeah, it's not just like green.
It's like all the colors of the rainbow.
Northwest New Jersey's Bigfoot is known as Old Red Eye because of the eyeglow.
Another good one in Pennsylvania in 1942, an investigator, Ken R, who works with Stan
Gordon, is called to visit a man right after a sighting, which is amazing.
Most people don't have the wherewithal to actually like call an investigator.
They're like, it just happened.
Well, I think most people don't know who the investigators are.
So this guy might have more connections to the community.
Exactly.
Who to call.
He reports he had investigated the sound of a large, heavy rock hitting his home.
His rocks are too heavy for him to lift himself.
Once outside, another rock is thrown landing in front of his parked car.
The man looked up to witness the devil in quotes in a nearby field, a very dark, tall
figure with green glowing eyes and the family's dog refuses to leave its doghouse.
Oh, and listen to this one.
1972, 15 year old Bianca walking to her grandmother's house in Eau d'Alle, Chile, when a six to
seven foot creature climbed from a ditch along the road.
Covered in long black hair, glared at her with large shining eyes.
Paralyzed, Bianca stared back in the eyes of the creature, steamed to admit a fiery
beam of light.
She felt an electrical discharge.
Bianca began running.
The creature followed making strange leaps and screeching sounds.
Bianca lost the creature at a clearing near her radiotherapy house.
At what point I wonder, did it get categorized as a big foot?
I don't know.
I think it's just like a wild man in the woods.
Yeah, wild man.
I mean, I would classify it as that, I guess.
June 1975 in Tala Bend, Australia, multiple witnesses saw a large hairy iPad carrying
an illuminated device along the roadside as well as a light in a nearby field.
The glowing continues in the other aspects as we just saw with this.
He's carrying an illuminated device.
So the glowing continues with Sasquatch itself glowing.
Sasquatch carrying a lantern type object, just like in that sighting.
Being around, turning into or emitting balls of light or fire, disappearing into a beam
of light or appearing from a beam of light, which can be speculated as being some sort
of portal, obviously.
So that's the light paranormal big foot also is associated with unusual sounds.
This could be mine speak for one being telepathy rock building, which I believe is touched
on very briefly in a previous episode, which you have to go way back for now.
Yeah.
I mean, you could just probably ignore that I just said that, but I must put it in for
purposes.
Lots of accounts will recollect mine speak of either come in this direction or come with
us.
A woman has an encounter in Oregon in 1996 with a big foot while camping.
She smells a revolting odor and looks up to find a gigantic biped mirror feet from her
tent.
He's tan colored, he or she, sorry.
The big foot telepathically tells her that he is a part of a peaceful race called the
Melcoi and they're on earth to investigate human emotion and reproduction, which brings
up a lot of questions for me if they're investigating reproduction.
Yeah.
And there are big stories that kind of align with that.
That's the first time I've ever heard them called the Melcoi though.
Yeah.
I have never heard that either.
Another big foot in Puerto Rico appears on lovers lane.
Oh, there we go.
And telepathically tells a girl to jump off the cliff.
She didn't do that and survive.
I mean, she was alone at lovers lane.
She might have just been upset.
I would question a few things in that story.
Why Bigfoot asked her to do that?
Why she did do it?
And where did they get the story from?
The big foot or the girl?
You think it was just telecommunicated to them?
So many questions.
Another big foot in Russia tells a woman that the race used to live alongside humans until
we became too violent and they were treated to another dimension and are prohibited from
interacting with humans.
I mean, they're not wrong in doing that if they had the option.
That is a reasonable response.
It is.
We've had enough of these guys, which is going to jump dimensions now.
I just find it interesting with people communicating with these kind of things, like what kind of
information that they're getting from them.
These jumping dimensions.
Also associated with paranormal Bigfoot is mimicry, which I find quite funny because
there are reports of Sasquatch mimicking other animals, but not very well.
This could be birds, owls, wolves, human voices.
Witnesses report it sounding too deep and sounding as if there's a speech impediment.
Direct from a witness, he described it as quote an Amish deaf person.
And I find this hilarious because if you're walking out during the day and you're like,
well, what the hell is making that sound like it sounds like it wants to be a bird, but
it's not.
It's just like a human being like, kaka.
Can you imagine walking somewhere at night and hearing something like that that is just
not fitting with what you know to be true and correct of the world?
Yeah.
It would be so creepy.
And especially like I have heard toddlers try to make the sounds of animals.
That's kind of what I'm picturing right now.
But like it would be like super bassy and deep.
Just adding another eerie element to it.
So this is not only sounds, but actions that it mimics.
One woman reports a Sasquatch mimicking her eating a sandwich from far off in the bushes.
Immediately I thought of how does that sound?
But he's obviously sitting like copying her actions of eating a sandwich.
Yeah.
And maybe she's a real loud eater.
So maybe that's like he's all.
Witnesses reported hearing a large bullfrog from the reeds, but when they approached,
they saw a large hairy creature.
Oh, so that would actually sounded like a bullfrog.
Yes.
It's like, like, hey, it's a bullfrog, not a rabbit.
A deer.
A witness reports hearing a white tailed deer bark from 15 feet up a tree shortly before
being hit with infrasound causing a panic attack.
It's theorized that infrasound is used to catch prey.
I believe in the last episode, Taylor, as well, you had shown us a clip of a bird that
mimics the sound of.
Oh, chainsaws.
Yeah.
What was the name of that bird?
It's an Australia lyre bird.
Yeah.
It's so weird that it would be able to mimic with whatever vocal chords it has.
Yeah.
And it's just a good.
Yeah.
And it is amazing that it doesn't do a bad job.
In fact, I've never seen a lyre bird do a bad job.
It's almost like it's like one of those.
Do you remember yak backs?
Yeah.
And you just like literally play it back.
It's so weird that an animal.
This is an earth animal that we are familiar with and have recorded.
In fact, that is able to do this.
Yeah.
So it's not unheard of.
And in fact, that could explain some of them.
But of course, those that would mean that I think those sightings would have to happen
in Australia or there would have to be some sort of report of, Hey, we're missing a lyre
bird out there.
Yeah.
So it's just this type of mimicry is more just of it's unsettling in the fact that number
one, it could be innocent in where it's just studying things that aren't big foot and they're
trying to just understand it like watching someone eat a sandwich and pretending they're
also eating the sandwich.
Yeah.
Like you see with little kids trying to the thing that kind of gets me is when it's trying
to be another animal.
That's you know, being sneaky.
Like where we laugh because it thinks it's people.
Yeah.
Exactly.
But I wouldn't be laughing if I was in the woods.
No.
Can I just add at this point that it not two days ago, we just talked about how we are
trying to mimic whale.
Yeah.
Two whales.
And might that explain that big foot is in fact doing a science experiment or trying
to expand the languages it knows or just trying to add new words to its vocabulary.
Or it's trying to reach out.
These are the aliens.
Or.
And we don't understand.
Is the lyre bird of the great ape branch of the tree of ice.
Oh my God.
So there are varying reports of tons of animals being mimicked from cougars, bullfrog, bird
cries, even robotic voices, helicopters, gongs, running water, babies cries.
That one's creepy.
I mean not that a gong is not creepy if you're in the middle of the woods.
It's a different kind of creepy.
Yeah.
Because you don't hear gongs too much in horror movies these days.
No, you don't.
I mean somebody better jump on this because that would be something made of nightmares.
You hear a gong and you turn around and it's big foot tracking you.
Nothing is off limits for these guys.
Witnesses will consistently tell of the power behind this mimicry and it just being off,
sounding much like a large human, super bassy, then turning from an animal sound to something
else such as barking or whooping.
They will complain of eardrum pain and the feeling of sound waves in their bodies.
That's the witnesses complaining about this after hearing something like this.
One man was camping at a walking campsite which had no vehicle access to it at all.
He reportedly heard a car door slam right outside his tent and went on to have further
encounters with rocks being thrown at him and he heard the infamous whooping sounds
that big foot used to communicate.
First Nations report their specialty is bird cries.
One woman is awoken at 2am by the sound of a front yard full of birds which upon looking
out the window no birds were present.
She also had a lengthy history of big foot encounters including house knocking, missing
farm animals, growls, roars, full bodied big foot sightings.
So now we're really getting to the good stuff.
That's funny too because a lot of the big foot sightings will be along the lines of
the more normal ones.
Everything goes weirdly quiet.
That is synonymous with paranormal anything.
The woods go quiet with glimmer person.
Owls as well which I always find interesting because they're so closely tied to the paranormal
abduction specifically and this gives me the creeps.
I don't trust owls or birds.
Neither here nor there.
Anyhow, First Nations report to pay close attention to owl noises and in that they
pay attention to the bassiness of the sound.
Reports of sounds of either humans mimicking owl sounds or 80 kilobyte owls.
Here we are reading it.
I think that's just a low sound.
Okay.
Like a deep sound.
Yeah.
One sec.
I'm googling this.
Okay.
80 kilobyte owls.
No free owl sound at pet.
Nope.
Nothing comes up when you type in 80 kilobyte owl sounds.
So apparently it's not something that exists.
Another encounter of a couple searching for a missing cat inundated with sounds of multiple
owl hoots at intense volume which turn into jungle like noises and escalated into insane
laughter coming from further into the forest to which it abruptly stops and a tree loudly
breaks.
A couple quickly left, good choice, and while speeding away they spot a large bigfoot type
creature.
That is just, I read that and it just hits different.
If you were to put yourself in that situation, that's insane.
Yeah.
That would scare the shit out of me.
There are also more normal quote reports of a language being used between bigfoot.
One man described the chatter between bigfoot as quote Japanese being played backwards,
end quote.
This has been dubbed samurai chatter due to its speed and guttural quality.
Others describe the languages sounding similar to indigenous Native Americans, Chinese, or
Russian.
That reminds me of that guy who says that he has the recordings of the bigfoot's whistling
towards each other.
Yes.
His name is Cliff Barakman and yeah he's got a whole website of just like purported
whistling that he has of bigfoot.
I wonder if we can play one here.
I have, here's all of them so I'll send you the link.
You have all of them just quickly.
No he has them on his website.
He's got, what would that be, 14.
Didn't bring up whistling at all though in this episode.
No did I?
Maybe.
I don't know.
It's not like I'm listening to this episode as I go.
One man described two bigfoot chatter and he had stumbled upon as almost Hebrew sounding
or Oriental sounding but sped up like Donald Duck sounds.
There are some individuals who report having lifelong encounters with bigfoot type creatures
who even report spiritual and past life encounters with the creature.
And we see these things with First Nation legends as well.
These are not physical creatures.
We see this with abductees as well that it will often be a lifelong affliction quote
for lack of a better term and it even runs in bloodlines.
So quite often if you have these type of experiences which is interesting that it's having a correlation
between the two, the bigfoot and the aliens, abductions, that they're not usually a one
off situation, usually keyword and they will run in families.
So the grandparent will often have the kids and the kids and the kids and they all just
keep experiencing the same type of experiences.
Experiencing the same experiences.
That was exactly how I wanted that to come off.
Did that come up in the skinwalker episode 2 I can't remember?
I don't think it did.
There's a lot of correlations between paranormal bigfoot and abductions.
There's missing time.
There have been accounts of individuals going into the woods and after something strange
happening has been gone for hours when they think only a few minutes have passed.
Other weird lights to do with paranormal bigfoot which include orbs, green flashes and even
blue glowing light coming from gunshot wounds.
That seems mighty vague.
I mean I can picture what they're getting at but I'm not sure what the gunshot wound
is because I have no other information.
So I'm not sure if bigfoot got a gun and it shot blue light.
Or someone shot bigfoot and blue light like spilled out of the wound.
I do have some questions about that vague statement but nonetheless you should know about it.
He's also been known to appear and vanish into thin air and tracks abruptly stop as
if he had disappeared even reports of bigfoot gliding or hovering.
Obviously we are familiar with it.
Chelsea if in that last situation there was there any type of evidence that was left behind
say like a license plate for the family whose car would have picked it up and taken it home
with them.
Yes actually there's a whole documentary about it.
Okay.
It's called Harry and the Henderson's.
Interesting.
If you're interested in watching that documentary about this very subject and specifically the
exact scenario that Taylor just brought up.
Also we're familiar with the bigfoot vanishing into thin air and tracks abruptly stopping.
I think that is the major thing that we know about bigfoot.
There is a sighting from a couple years ago in Coombs BC that reports this exact thing
of tracks in the snow just abruptly ending.
In Pennsylvania in 1975 a group spotted a floating bigfoot that disappeared into a strange mist.
I am loving these strange encounters.
They are so weird and they just don't fit the normal bigfoot agenda.
We're pushed in mainstream society.
And stories pushed by big bigfoot.
Bigfoot shape shift.
This one gets creepy.
In Washington 1975 not sure which Washington we're speaking of.
I'm assuming the state because they have a large bigfoot population.
Yeah and I've never heard of a story out of Washington DC for bigfoot.
You haven't?
No.
Okay.
The large prince discovered which over the course of 200 feet slowly morphed into human
boots ending at a house.
Holy shit.
That would be terrifying.
That would be... imagine if it's your house.
You're like okay a bigfoot must have been going towards my house and then you're like
holy shit it's my wife.
I think I need a new house.
And that's how you discovered that your significant other is a bigfoot.
Again a underexplored movie topic.
In which you need a new house and you need a new partner.
I deep... do you go in the house?
You don't go in the house.
I don't even know why I ask that question.
It really does depend on the house.
If it is in fact my house I probably do have to go in the house.
If it's just a house I'm not going in the house.
Okay I mean yeah I think you're right on all accounts.
I don't know even if it's my house that I go in the house to be honest I might just
turn and walk away and never come back.
You call the cops at that point and say like look this is gonna sound weird or you just
tell them about the boot part.
Like I left the house and now there are footsteps at my front door.
But they're gonna find out that it started as bigfoot prints.
I don't think you say that part though.
No you're right because you want them to come.
Because odds are if they find anybody it's going to be a boot wearing individual.
And actually did it just happen that bigfoot put on boots?
Like were these same size shoes?
So what I'm thinking is here's where he's stopped to put on shoes.
Yeah there's a butt mark on the ground there too.
Like clear struggle sign.
Like fall down spot.
I discarded shoehorn.
What I'm picturing is like big feet that slowly become shape shifted into like high
heels potentially.
There's that part where he was like hopping for several steps as he tried to get his foot
in.
Poddler footprints which would track I feel like it would track.
Tens of accounts of bigfoot shape shifting into a tree stump, logs or rocks either once
approached or appearing out of nowhere appearing to watch witnesses.
So that would be stumps with faces.
This has been cited.
Any that came up that were eggs?
No not in North America.
At all actually.
It was quite a barren land for egg savings.
And on that spot trees.
There are many folklore legends of bigfoot among other creatures living in trees like
elves and stuff but this is not an elf episode.
Wood knocking is huge with bigfoot which bigfoot is known for has been known to be spotted
and had wood knocking emanating from inside trees.
Inside down trees in which trees are uprooted and then impaled down into the earth.
This is seen more in the west, Canada and Alaska.
Described by witnesses as 9 to 12 feet tall, no bark perfectly straight up and down and
no machine marks.
That would be so creepy to come upon.
Yeah.
Just a bunch of trees upside down.
I would immediately.
Is it a bunch or is it just one?
A lot.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's just creepy as well so people who are avid outdoorsmen.
I don't know that anybody looks at the trees to make sure it doesn't have eyes or a face.
I know that's never been something on my like.
No.
Wood safety.
Things I need to do.
Yeah.
But you're gonna have to add it there now.
A lot of things that are just and I'm just repeating myself here because we've all been
listening to the episode together except me.
I just do the talking.
Just things that are out of the ordinary creepy that are just everyday things that you would
expect to hear or see when you're walking in the woods.
Tree stumps.
It now has a face.
It's just blending in with the woods.
Birds except the birds sound like there might be something wrong with it and it's sounding
super bassy and like it might it's just kind of off just like most paranormal things are.
Just the mimicking I think that just really gets me because it just seems so deceptive
and like what is it up to?
It's trying to lure.
I think is what what I get from it.
And coming to the end here I'm just wrapping it up with some honorable weird mentions.
1976 San Juan, Puerto Rico a woman here is her dogs barking in the backyard.
She looks out to see a large ape like creature sitting on top of a palm tree.
The creature glares back at the witness with eyes that seem to emit fire.
The creature then began to shrink into a spherical shape and started glowing.
Finally it took the form of a glowing sphere about the size of a basketball and floated
away into the sky.
And in Lugar, Panama in Spain 1985 there was an experience of a wave of animal mutilations.
In September multiple witnesses awoke to dogs barking watched multiple six foot tall balls
of light silently drifting around their property.
Small ape like creatures walked next to the spears shots were fired and they were not
hostile as we thought they're I guess they got shot at and they didn't respond.
And that yeah that's how you figure out is something's hostile and not as a human you
shoot at the sea.
That's just exporting the American answer.
Yeah.
Or the Spain Spaniards are ahead of their time.
I mean we take a lot of stuff from the Spaniards because they came over here and you know.
Yeah I mean we didn't even rename a bunch of cities.
So I feel like we took that from the Spaniards.
We can credit that to them.
Shooters ask questions later.
But that's paranormal bigfoot again.
Nice.
Do we have any comments or?
I just assume there's nothing that you wanted to add to the episode it's just a smooth
re-shoot we needed to do correct.
Yeah maybe if I wanted to add something I could do another episode.
Yeah it's fine.
No I think that is really good.
I just wanted to have it redone so that we have the now quality that we are known for.
Yeah and we can almost confidently now say that we have a good back catalog.
Yeah.
Well kind of.
Although it's going to be snad when we can't say there's no bad episodes.
And we though.
Because it'll seem like we're liars.
We're not the pick and choose yet.
But that's enough about us being liars in the future.
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We are Journey to the Fringe.
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