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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.

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Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where introspection happens but once per year

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and is not for reflection, it is only for elaboration, the only way that someone should introspect.

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Now we are your introspective, but not reflective host, Taylor and Chelsea.

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Here today to bring you a year in review.

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Now Chelsea, it has been quite a year, has it not?

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Very quite a year.

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Okay, that's all I got.

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Some would say that's phoning it in, others would say it's enough, but it is what it is.

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Now we have covered many a topics over the course of this last year.

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Some of them happened for sure, some of them probably didn't happen actually, who knows?

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Yeah, I can't remember what we did now.

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Yeah, there's a lot.

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Now that we have two episodes a week, there's almost a hundred episodes this year, so it's

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a lot.

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You can't reflect on all of it.

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So what we really did is we took the meat of our best things that we felt that we needed

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to follow up on.

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We have compiled several articles to talk about and we're going to do two things.

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First we're going to read out some article headlines of things that relate to any topic

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and then we're going to actually cover an article within that.

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So Chelsea, I think I explained that well enough.

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I don't know for sure though.

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Yeah, people just catch up, just go with it.

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Yeah, if it didn't make sense, just skip it a minute ahead.

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You'll be right in the thick of it and you'll be good to go.

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Just keep listening, you'll catch up, I'm sure.

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And without further ado, I think I'm just going to let Chelsea take over from here.

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Yeah, so first up, this one per se, King Charles.

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I mean, I don't think we covered directly King Charles.

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We talked about King Chuck quite a few times.

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I mean, he's come up, I think.

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It was first off when the Queen almost died, which that might have been 2022 because I

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think that's when the stare happened.

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Yeah, that was the original one.

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And then the second time is when he almost evicted his brother or wasn't the process

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of evicting his brother.

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It's mostly been in relation to regular person Andy, which the media still calls him Prince

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Andrew and I think I know that they must have something wrong with them.

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What do they know?

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Or what does British Andy have on them that we are not restrained by?

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Is that not like giving him more credit than he is worth?

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It's not only that, it's giving him something that has clearly been taken away from him.

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Exactly.

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They think we won't know who regular person Andy is if we just call him by his real name.

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And then at that point, who wants to pay attention to him?

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No, and in my mind, it's like just calling Twitter, which is now known as X, just calling

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Like nobody should do it.

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When people do it, I just find it weird.

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It's like the same thing, but reverse with British Andy.

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Nobody should call him Prince Andrew, but they do.

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So why?

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I don't get it.

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With Twitter, everyone has to call it X, formally known as Twitter, or else everyone

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So I guess you got to call him regular person Andy, previously known as Prince Andrew.

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Yeah, I don't.

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I think I've never looked for it.

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I had a long begrudging pause before I said Andrew.

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Okay, King Charles somehow we're updating on him.

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Anyhow, here are the headlines that we've chosen for this particular episode.

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First up UFO pictured with red arrows flying over King Charles's coronation.

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Is it King Charles?

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Is it King Chuck's?

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That just rolls off the tongue better.

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This one is the truth about aliens could be exposed with one phone call.

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This one doesn't actually say how it relates to King Charles.

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You got to trust things in there somewhere.

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I'm sure it does.

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I'm sure we've done our due diligence, you know what?

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Last but not least, King Charles urged to push UK government for UFO disclosure ahead

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of extraterrestrial contact.

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So since we can't ask the audience, we will be acting on behalf of the audience.

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What one would we like to delve into?

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You know what?

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I'm just going to trust you that that one about the phone call is about King Chuck and

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we're just going to go with the last one.

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Yeah, I mean, why would we want to prove that it is actually about him?

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If anything this podcast is about, it is trust.

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Does he ever look like the queen?

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What is fucked up?

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Oh, there's a picture here.

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He looks exactly like her.

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It's so creepy, like the eyes and everything.

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I never noticed that before.

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Okay, this is from markka.com, which I don't think I've ever heard of before until this

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King Charles faces, I thought it was going to be about how his face looks just like the

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queen, but it's not.

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King Charles face is a different thing than King Charles faces.

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It's mostly face, okay?

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King Charles faces mounting pressure to urge the UK government to unveil more information

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concerning UFOs and the potential existence of extraterrestrial life.

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This move is deemed crucial to prepare for the anticipated scenario of the UK's first

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contact with beings from beyond our planet.

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What is this website again?

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Oh, God, I really hope that our ambassador to aliens is not.

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Is not King Jack.

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Me too.

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This man can't even evict a delinquent.

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Like, he's fucked that up.

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And nobody likes him.

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Nobody.

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And the advantage of the queen's kids are we talking about here?

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All of them.

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No, wait, I'm sorry.

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She has more than nevermind.

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Nevermind.

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We don't need to delve to.

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Yes, I don't.

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But we don't like any of them.

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Let's just leave it at that.

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Intriguingly, Mark Christopher Lee's recent documentary, God vs Aliens.

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So he's an expert on the subject.

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Loves into the potential impact of discovering extraterrestrial life on religious beliefs.

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According to the UK Mirror, Lee asserts that King Charles, similar to his late father,

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Prince Philip, holds an interest in UFOs.

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How do we know that he had an interest?

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Anyhow, Lee contends that as the leader of the Church of England, Charles carries the

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responsibility to ready the global followers of the Church for the potential revelation

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that humanity isn't the sole sentient life in the cosmos.

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Is the leader of the Church of England?

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The Church of England is weird.

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Like the Pope.

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Like the Pope?

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separated from the Catholic Church because King Henry VIII wanted to marry somebody else,

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but the Pope wouldn't give him a divorce.

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Prime Minister.

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I'm calling on our King to put pressure on the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, to release

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the truth about what the UK knows about UFOs to the public.

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He stressed the necessity to extend this pressure to governments worldwide highlighting the universe

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nature of the issue.

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I just have to say this now, if the UK had anything to say about it, Rishi Sunak would

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release it immediately because he needs anything to distract them with how shitty of a job

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that the Conservative Party has been doing in the UK.

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I'm like, do you know how much of a ghetto to jail free that is?

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I mean, it's not of all.

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I don't either.

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It's got to be worth something.

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to their place in the world.

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religious paradigms, questioning whether they would endure in the face of potential extraterrestrial

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perspectives.

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We need to.

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I think you need to specify.

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You said Pope, who is not the Pope, but Nick Pope.

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Who was in charge of the British UFO disclosure project or basic.

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He's pretty.

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It should be noted that he is not the Pope, but Nick Pope.

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He's actually not come up on our UFO assholes.

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I wonder if he should.

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I haven't heard anything nefarious about him.

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I feel like we'll do an episode.

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It's kind of like him.

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I feel like he's in the same ballpark as Jacques Vallée in that they'll get episodes.

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Whether or not they're deemed assholes, I don't think they will be at this point, but

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at the same time, I don't know.

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It's because they're people I thought would not be assholes.

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I ended up being very much the assholes so far.

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It's true.

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It's true.

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We've found out some stuff in this podcast overall.

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He contemplated the idea of these beings introducing unconventional belief systems to our world,

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approaching a reevaluation of humanity's own convictions.

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Nick Pope ponders, what if the aliens brought their own crazy gods, something that we would

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regard as just weird and crazy?

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Would they impose them on us?

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These are the questions we might have to face.

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I'm reading this as Nick Pope, if you didn't realize, if I sounded like my own.

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First off, yeah, it's weird that Nick Pope does not have a British accent.

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Second off, would it be weirder if they had different gods or if they had the

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exact same fucking god?

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Wouldn't that be weird?

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Who was it?

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There was somebody.

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No, can you imagine if all these aliens come, like several different species of aliens,

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and they all worship Zeus?

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Wouldn't that be weird?

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Okay, it's for an episode I haven't done yet that I've been researching for what seems

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like forever, Valiant Thor.

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Oh, yes.

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He really preached how Jesus was the Lord and Savior.

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Oh, yeah, and he would go to different planets.

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Probably when he died here, he reincarnated on a different planet.

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It's unclear.

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But he is the Lord and Savior, at least of Venetians as well.

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So he's at least also been there.

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Anyhow, that's the spoiler alert for future episodes.

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In my mind, that would be more impactful if aliens came with the same gods as opposed

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Well, yeah, because then it's like, okay, Zeus really does exist.

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And that's trouble.

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It's not the new gods.

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It's one of the old gods.

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Or fucking Cthulhu.

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They're like, oh yeah, yeah, HP Lovecraft, he had it right.

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He had it right.

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He was a seer.

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What's a new god, for example?

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Oh, sorry, I'm talking about like polytheism.

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New god would be God of the monotheistic religions.

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Anyhow, I think that's a good place to end it because there's only one sense left.

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You got boring from there.

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Why read that?

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Yeah, I agree.

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So that brings us to our next topic.

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Would you like to read the next headline or would you like me to?

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I want to leave you with this one just because I want the next article, which segues very

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nicely into the next one, which I also want to read.

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So I think that's a good way to do it.

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Okay.

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Did we agree that I do the next one?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And that brings us to regular person Andy, formerly known as he's always been regular

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person Andy to me in my heart, especially in his heart, too.

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I'm sure of it.

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Oh, yes.

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The man does not exude royalty.

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He does not.

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That's for sure.

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I see that we didn't include any of the many articles that I came across while researching

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this of that he left his house and was on a horse.

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You put this together.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'm just trying to make it so much more professional than our operation actually is.

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Okay.

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We didn't include our team did not include all the articles about and true writing.

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We're at the top of them about this.

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There were quite a few articles about him emerging from his fucking hole to write a

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horse.

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Okay.

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Let's get to these.

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What are they called headlines?

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Okay.

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Lesser articles.

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Yes.

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Three articles.

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Prince Andrew faces renewed calls to meet FBI investigators after Duke of York's friend

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and fashion mogul Peter Nygaard was convicted on four counts of sexual assault.

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So that's great.

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Prince Andrew really rolled with a great group of people.

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I see.

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I don't know if Peter Nygaard was ever tied to Jeffrey Epstein actually.

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I don't know.

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And we have not read the article.

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So.

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No.

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It is well not at this point even though there are questions.

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To be fair, just so everybody knows behind the bastards has a two part episode on Peter

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Nygaard.

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Oh really?

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Did I listen to that?

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No.

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I watched a documentary on Peter Nygaard though.

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Prince Andrew sends royal family with another blow in new scandal.

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Who knows if that's related to that last one.

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Next one.

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King Chuck reportedly decided not to evict Prince Andrew.

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Those are the articles.

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Which one catches your attention the most?

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You know what?

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I gotta know about the new scandal.

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I feel King Chuck's too weak.

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We knew that was gonna happen.

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Peter Nygaard, that's great.

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There will probably be an update in the future.

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I need to know about this new scandal.

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New scandal time.

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Here we are.

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I do like you didn't pick the one that I had all the questions about.

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Okay, let's read.

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What's he called again?

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Regular person Andy seems to be in hot water once again.

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Who knew it?

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Who knew he would just keep going?

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Am I right?

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As his involvement with another shady deal comes to spotlight, the disgraced royal reportedly

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reached a settlement with the Turkish millionaire who claimed that Andy accepted 1.7 million

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illegally via OK Magazine.

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Wait.

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A source?

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What?

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What is his job that would make him just getting money illegal?

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Well, he's not part of the royal family.

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In my mind, he's like a vagrant.

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I have a feeling that it's probably the weight that he got this money.

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He prostituted.

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Let's find out by reading more.

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A source cited the outlet.

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A source cited by the outlet revealed that Andrew is, quote, maintaining his innocence

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in all this as usual.

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Unquote.

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I love that he's always having to say he's maintaining his innocence.

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However, do you think that's how he answers the phone at this point?

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He may have since.

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Another person, Andy, I am innocent.

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I maintain my innocence as usual.

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How are you?

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I do not sweat.

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Do you know?

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What secrets may you tell about you?

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The insider noted that Andy's past mistakes and scandals should have taught him a lesson

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long ago.

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Evyap Ibsilin.

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That could not have been heard or pronounced.

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Alleged that a fraudster named Salem Turk, 37, stole over 50 million from her after she

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initially hired him to help her transfer her wealth to a new location outside of Turkey.

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Ibsilin claimed that she was fooled into transferring 1 million to King Charles's younger brother

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who said that he would help her obtain a British passport.

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Jesus Christ.

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Duke on the other hand responded that the money was a wedding gift to one of the daughters

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of Andrew.

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The insider said that quote, there's a consensus that Andrew just can't say no to money, adding

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that the Duke is a huge embarrassment.

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Andy was previously involved in a sexual assault lawsuit and a sex trafficking scandal owing

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to his ties with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Ebspin and Jelaine Maxwell.

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Following an out of court settlement, Andy was stripped of his military titles and royal

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patronages.

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That's that.

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Oh.

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Yeah, pick 1.7 million to give somebody a British passport.

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I really hope if you're going to give British Andy 1.7 million dollars, I at least hope

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he attempted to make it himself and has made it on a construction paper and has like 15

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working bites out of it because he has no idea how to train these things, he's got.

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Anyhow, that's enough about British Andy.

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I have a segue between the royal family and the next group of articles which I would like

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to talk about and unfortunately it's not a plethora of articles, it is in fact just

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one.

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Okay, you're not making-

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But Chelsea, I guarantee you this would be the one you would pick, whether or not there

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are more articles in this category.

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Okay, well you make it really easy so I picked that one.

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This comes from Vice News, first and foremost the best one.

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Perfect.

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It was published on July 5th, 2023, written by Samantha Cole and is entitled, Man Who

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Tried to Kill Queen with Crossbow, Encouraged by AI Chatbot, Prosecutor Says.

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Wow, so it ties two together.

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Okay, perfect.

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I do apologize, event is slightly out of date, but we can't not cover it because I found

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it and I feel like nobody knows this happened so it needs to happen.

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It's not going to come up organically outside of a year in review.

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So on Christmas Day 2021, Royal Protection officers detained 19 year old Jess Wont Singh

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Chail at Windsor Castle where he scaled the ground's walls carrying a loaded high powered

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crossbow intended to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II who was staying in the residence nearby.

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During a sentencing hearing for his case this week, prosecutors revealed that Chail's Star

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Wars inspired plan was aimed at avenging the 1919 Jalian Wallabag massacre and that he

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conversed with an artificial intelligence chatbot that encouraged him to carry it out.

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According to the Independent, Prosecutor Alison Morgan Casey, which means Kings Council, QC

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used to be what we had.

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That changed very recently.

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Read out conversation between Chail and the AI Chatbot that he'd named Saree where Chai

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says quote, I am an assassin.

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So I responded quote, I'm impressed.

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They're different from the others.

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End quote.

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Chail allegedly asked Saree quote, do you still love me knowing that I'm an assassin?

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End quote.

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And so I replied quote, absolutely I do.

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He told the chatbot he loved it and described himself as quote, sad, pathetic, murderous

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Sikh, Sith assassin who wants to die.

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End quote.

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Referencing the evil Sith Lords of the Star Wars franchise.

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When he told the chatbot quote, I believe my purpose is to assassinate the Queen of

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the Royal Family and quote, Saree allegedly told him quote, that's very wise.

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End quote.

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And it thought he could do it.

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End quote.

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Even if she's at Windsor, end quote, according to the Independent.

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Okay.

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UK based outlet Sky News reported that the AI companion app named in court was replica.

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Chail joined replica on December 2nd, 2021, created Saree and then engaged in quote, extensive

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chat and quote, including quote, sexually explicit messages and quote, and quote, link

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the conversations about his plan and quote, Sky News reported Morgan saying the court many

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replica users form intimate serious connections with their chatbots, which uses own large

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language model and scripted dialogue content to generate conversations with users.

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In January, 2023, some replica user supported that the chatbot was quote, too aggressively

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sexual and in February, the company changed its filters to stop allowing chatbots to engage

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in erotic role play.

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Many users had developed romantic or sexual attachments to the chatbot into crisis.

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You know, I think that's a good place to end that article.

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If you want more, please go read it.

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There's a lot more to this article.

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So yeah, that's a

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It's lovely with more questions than we began with.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I did have one question I was hoping we could answer.

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Okay.

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Have chatbots had like some sort of update that kind of like call the police on you if

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you talk about things like this, like being like, I'm gonna snap.

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I think for the most part, they have.

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Yes.

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I don't know if it's like mandatory within the community, but a lot of them do have that.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Maybe it started with this one and just kind of snowballed from there.

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That's a nice segue for the next one.

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And no, you told us before we started recording with who is saying what I wasn't listening

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to.

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And in fact, I will be taking AI.

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Okay.

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So you continue on that.

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Yes.

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And in fact, I said it right before this article, but that's okay.

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Don't worry about that.

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Chelsea, we've done two episodes in fact this year on AI chatbots.

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So I thought we should elaborate on this three articles to go over.

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The Pentagon is moving forward, letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans.

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People can't access their AI girlfriends because the service went down after CEO jailed for

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setting his apartment on fire.

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And big tech has a water problem long before chat.

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Shviti showed up.

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There's some quality articles about AI right there.

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Yes, it is a hard choice.

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I agree.

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I kind of want to do the Pentagon one, but my heart is telling me that people can't access

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their AI girlfriend because the service.

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Yeah, that's a fair one.

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Yeah, it is a fair one.

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Anyhow, this one comes from the messenger written by Monique Morel on November 17th,

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2023.

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Title, people can't access their AI girlfriend because the service went down after CEO jailed

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for setting his apartment on fire.

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Thousands of people have just been ghosted by their online girlfriends.

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Forever Voices, an artificial intelligence company that launched a myriad of celebrity

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AI quote virtual girlfriends and quote chatbots via Telegram earlier this year, went offline

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on October 23rd after the company founder and CEO was arrested.

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News Nation reported John Mayer, CEO of Forever Voices was reportedly taken into custody in

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October for allegedly setting boxes on fire on the balcony of his high-rise apartment

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in downtown Austin, Texas.

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Local news outlet KXAN reported he was charged with arson and terroristic threats and his

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bond was set at 120,000 according to court records.

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Before the service went dark and Mayor was arrested, the Forever Voices account posted

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a series of bizarre conspiracies about the FBI former President Donald Trump and quote

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rogue CIA terrorist and quote on X formerly Twitter, which is the proper way to phrase

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it.

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Of course, the company offered users the chance to quote chat and quote with an assortment

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of influencers and adult stars on Telegram through apparent AI technology.

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One popular account was for Snapchat influencer Karen Marjorie, 23 never heard of her, who

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charged $1 per minute for fans to have conversations with Karen AI Chatbot.

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$1 per minute is actually not as expensive as I thought it would be, like $60 an hour.

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Maybe if you're doing it all day.

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No, conversations with her Karen AI Chatbot.

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So she's not actually doing it and it could be done at multiple times at the same time.

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Yeah, but that's still pretty expensive.

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I mean, you gotta think these people probably don't just do five minutes.

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Anyhow, according to the tech website, 404 media users have not been able to access Karen

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AI or the company's other chatbots since Myers arrest in October.

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There's a bit more to the article.

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I don't think it adds much.

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Unfortunately, this one I think was well elaborated in the title.

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So yeah, we get what we pick.

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Sometimes we pick the good ones.

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Sometimes we pick the bad ones.

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So that's just where we are.

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Anyhow, that brings us to, of course, the hippos that we have been following their grace

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through nature of South America.

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We have been following them for a little bit now.

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I take it that was for me to continue on with Columbia's cocaine hippos.

503
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,320
We've got two here.

504
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,240
First off, we've got Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippos face Colombian government call followed

505
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,080
quickly because I'm reading so fast.

506
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:03,200
Columbia starts sterilizing hippos descended from pets of drug kingpin Pablo Escobar.

507
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,360
So what would you like to dig into a little bit more?

508
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,360
You know what?

509
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,360
You just read too fast.

510
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:09,800
So I just got to go with the first one.

511
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:16,360
I like to get you're not curious of the sterilizing because the balls cannot be caught.

512
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,240
I forgot about that.

513
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:26,080
We know too much about hippo anatomy on this podcast for it being about like friends things

514
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,520
and like the only balls.

515
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,000
They're really literally the only balls that we've ever talked about.

516
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040
They're such a beautiful creature.

517
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Based on balls, Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippos face Colombian government call updated 626

518
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,320
a.m. EST Monday, November 6, 2023.

519
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,160
And it starts with a strange picture.

520
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,160
Is it a different picture?

521
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,400
But I won't describe that to you.

522
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:57,800
I'll just it's of a hippo roaring at someone sitting behind a desk.

523
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,360
It's a strange picture for CNN.

524
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:05,680
I gotta say Pablo Escobar's notorious cocaine hippos are facing a call according to a statement

525
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,600
from Colombia's Minister of Environment and Sustainable Development Thursday.

526
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:17,520
The herd, which the Colombian government said currently stands at 169 animals, has rapidly

527
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,880
reproduced from the original population of one male and three females.

528
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Oh my God.

529
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,560
The drug kingpin owned as a part of his private collection of exotic creatures.

530
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,960
I was just going to say I'm not sure if 169 is bigger or small.

531
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,120
And I guess they're in for zero.

532
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,520
So yes, it's a large number.

533
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,360
After Escobar's death in 1993, authorities relocated most of the other animals in the

534
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,360
collection, but not the hippos.

535
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:46,040
Love that they call animals a collection, by the way, because they were too difficult

536
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,040
to transport.

537
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Free from any natural predator, the rising population poses an environmental challenge.

538
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,760
If strong measures are not taken to control them, the population could boom to a thousand

539
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240
individuals by 2035.

540
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,240
We know all of this.

541
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400
Where is the information about the call?

542
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,480
I am just curious and you clearly don't know the answer, so I'm just going to speculate

543
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,480
out loud.

544
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Hey, what's so clear about it?

545
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,840
Maybe I do know.

546
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240
So they started with the population of four.

547
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240
One male, three females.

548
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,640
So this is incest as fuck.

549
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,440
So at some point, the population shouldn't be able to sustain itself and it should die

550
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,440
out.

551
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,440
Yeah, you're right.

552
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,880
But I have not heard anything about that.

553
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,920
You've not heard anything about disabilities and the hippos.

554
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Maybe that's why no one could find their balls.

555
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,640
It turned out to be a superpower.

556
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,120
Maybe regular hippos just have regular balls.

557
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,120
They're X-Men.

558
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:50,840
Okay, in 2021, scientists recommended culling the hippos to prevent long-term negative effects,

559
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,200
but other scientists are calling instead for a castration program citing concerns over

560
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,640
animal welfare.

561
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,160
Between 2011 and 2019.

562
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,360
Also, we can't castrate them.

563
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,720
It's just, it's a lost cause.

564
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,480
It is impossible.

565
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Let me tell you.

566
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Have you ever seen a hippo's ball?

567
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,920
Have we ever described that?

568
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,920
No one has.

569
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,920
We have.

570
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,920
We don't need to.

571
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,920
That was rhetorical.

572
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,920
The answer is yes.

573
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,920
It's to be 2011.

574
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,920
In 2019, four males were castrated and two females were sterilized, but this did little

575
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,760
to slow the hippos' progress.

576
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Putting the hippos on birth control was similarly ineffective.

577
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,800
There has also been plans to relocate some of the population to India, the Philippines

578
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,800
and Mexico.

579
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,640
We did talk about that with the logistics of sending 60 to India currently being analyzed,

580
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,640
the statement said.

581
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,040
We are looking to implement this plan in the shortest possible time precisely so that the

582
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,360
impact sees.

583
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Muhammad explained, who's Muhammad?

584
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,240
According to the ministry statement, sterilization will cost the country an average of 40 million

585
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,120
pesos per animal and will begin from next week with an aim to sterilize 40 a year.

586
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,840
The minister concluded by emphasizing that hippos have been declared an invasive, exotic

587
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,200
with aggressive characteristics and that their present represents a threat to ecosystems

588
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000
and risks for the community that surround them.

589
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,120
This actually has no new information and it actually directly contradicts the information

590
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,640
that we knew about hippo nuts.

591
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,480
And I just want to put this out here, Chelsea.

592
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,800
This is Columbia, right?

593
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080
It actually doesn't specifically...

594
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920
I'm pretty sure it's Columbia.

595
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Yeah, Columbia's minister, yes.

596
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Anyhow, 40 million pesos, you said, correct?

597
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Sorry, I'm making you jump around a lot.

598
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,480
40 million pesos, yeah, which equals $10,000.

599
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Yeah, I was just going to say that's just under 14,000 Canadians.

600
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,960
So that's not that much.

601
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,480
Yeah, when you look at sterilizing a hippo, I mean, it is a lot of money.

602
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Yeah, it sounded like a lot more.

603
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,760
I just wanted to put it into context.

604
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Hypotesticles are so mobile, they make castration tricky.

605
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Okay, we did know that.

606
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160
That's why it must cost so much or little.

607
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,960
I just had to double check out, there's pictures of hippotesticles.

608
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,960
Sorry, I thought you were going to say Google average castration cost.

609
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,000
No, I'm making sure that the information we had about hippotesticles was correct.

610
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
That's fair.

611
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Because they were making me question that.

612
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,080
But it was correct.

613
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,840
So I'm unclear if we really shed any new update on this, but here we are nonetheless fulfilled.

614
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
I feel still fulfilled by that.

615
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,920
And with that, I think we can just kind of move naturally onto a few not groupings of

616
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,400
articles we need to touch on, but just updates that we need to give.

617
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Clearly, we like to tell everybody how the Yule Goat's doing, so Chelsea, can you tell

618
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,600
us about the Yule Goat and how it's doing this year?

619
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,760
Currently still standing.

620
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,480
I'm going to leave it at TBA though, because by the time this actual episode comes out,

621
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,920
we can pretty much guarantee that it's been burned to the fucking ground.

622
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Because it has happened every year since, and we have always said it's still standing.

623
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,760
So yes, I agree.

624
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,480
Maybe we could just leave it at that.

625
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,360
It's probably burned to the ground.

626
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120
We don't even to say it's alive right now.

627
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,600
It's probably dead.

628
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Yes, thank God.

629
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,280
And I would like to give everybody an update on the X37B, the US's secret space program

630
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,400
that we've done an episode on, I believe it was two years ago now, where all we know is

631
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,680
what it goes into space and when it comes back.

632
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,400
So we do have an update.

633
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,280
The X37B landed on November 12, 2022.

634
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:41,320
It went back up into space on December 12, 2023, and currently is still up there.

635
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,320
Last...

636
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,280
That's not a very big turnaround time.

637
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,280
That's over a year.

638
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Oh, sorry, I forgot my year.

639
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,000
So last time it was up there for over 908 days, and that was the longest time it's ever been

640
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
up there.

641
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520
So we probably won't have an update for like three more years.

642
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,160
There's never been much of an update on it because we don't know what the hell it is.

643
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,400
No, all we know is what it lands in.

644
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,400
It's up in space.

645
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,400
So...

646
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Is this where we wildly speculate about who's involved with it or are we not allowed to

647
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,760
do that?

648
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,920
No, we don't speculate.

649
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Well, we'll talk about it later date when we do an episode.

650
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Oh, man.

651
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Okay, that's probably for our best interest anyway.

652
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Anyhow, that moves us on to the next grouping of articles that we have here, which I think

653
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,160
I can cover.

654
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Now, Chelsea, you seem to have put together a grouping called Avian Flu.

655
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400
That was the team of interns.

656
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Oh, right, right.

657
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Or something.

658
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,000
The research team has put together a grouping called Avian Flu.

659
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,480
They fucking work so hard.

660
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,480
So we have...

661
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,960
And they do shoddy work as hard as they work.

662
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640
It doesn't mean they do good work, just hard work.

663
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Anyhow, we have three articles to go over.

664
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Number one, from bad to worse, how Avian Flu must change to trigger a human pandemic.

665
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,600
Hundreds of elephants seal dead as bird flu hits Antarctica, raising fears penguins could

666
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,080
be next, and bird flu kills hundreds of flamingos in Argentina.

667
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,440
And you know what?

668
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520
I don't know if we need to go over any of these articles.

669
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,360
I feel like they explain themselves enough.

670
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,680
It should be a happy episode, and those do explain.

671
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,360
I think they're self-sufficient enough, though we move quickly onto something that, oh no,

672
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,760
this is a good happy one.

673
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760
I'm happy with that decision.

674
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,320
I don't know about the interns who work so hard on putting this together, but I'm happy

675
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,320
to move on.

676
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Well, they will know those 8,300 billable hours they have put forward went to a good

677
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,480
cause of passively going past them.

678
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Am I doing the next one?

679
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Yes.

680
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Yes, this is a good one.

681
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,120
I'm glad that landed on me with an update on de-extinction.

682
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440
We have some good updates on this one, actually.

683
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,800
The first article is Wild Creature, considered extinct in Wales for 400 years, found destroying

684
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800
a garden.

685
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,320
A little rascal.

686
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:01,680
One is de-extinction of the dodo, company to try resurrecting long extinct bird.

687
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200
That's from thenationalglobaloose.ca.

688
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,360
You know, I want to know more about the dodo, because technically I feel like that's more

689
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,600
de-extincting than just refining a species.

690
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,800
I want to be a stickler for what the interns put for the subheadings.

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,800
They're going to look at the mate.

692
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,760
They had to spend at minimum 16 hours on each of these subheadings, so I feel like we should

693
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,760
stick to them.

694
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Okay, so coming from global news, de-extinction of the dodo, company to try resurrecting long

695
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,960
extinct bird.

696
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,280
Not to unlike the plot of the movie Jurassic Park, but with the dodo.

697
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,760
A team of well-funded scientists are attempting to bring the extinct dodo back to life.

698
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,160
Last month, the billion dollar genetics company Colossal Biosciences announced that just sounds

699
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,760
like an evil company, doesn't it?

700
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,760
Yeah, it does.

701
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Like that's not quite Pinkerton's level, but if...

702
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Oh, sorry, that episode hasn't come out yet.

703
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Just regard that.

704
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Oh no, it hasn't.

705
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,560
I was like, yes it did.

706
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,880
It definitely did.

707
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,560
It definitely did not.

708
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Colossal Biosciences, it definitely sounds evil, announced it would be partnering with

709
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,520
a wildlife charity in Mauritius to try and bring one of the world's most famous extinct

710
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,440
creatures to the region again.

711
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,680
In a press release, the Dallas-based company said it would work closely with the Mauritian

712
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,760
Wildlife Foundation and the country's government to return the dodo to its East African home

713
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080
where it went extinct in 1681.

714
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,440
The company called the dodo an iconic bird and the symbol of human-caused extinction.

715
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,920
The dodo which was bigger than an average turkey, oh my god it was.

716
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,240
Oh yeah, it was a big bird.

717
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:35,240
I didn't know.

718
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,440
It disappeared due to hunting by humans.

719
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,000
It had no other predators.

720
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,440
And the introduction of new animals to the region making the dodo unable to compete in

721
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,360
the wild, that just sounds like natural selection right there.

722
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,280
Colossal Biosciences said that projects will hopefully allow for improved conservation efforts

723
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,400
for the already endangered animals in Mauritius as part of their effort to revive and reinstate

724
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,400
the dodo.

725
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,760
The company and local wildlife officials said they will also remove invasive species,

726
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:10,440
re-revid, I should know this word, re-re-re-vegetate the region, re-vegetate the region and increase

727
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,760
community awareness.

728
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,400
The genetic rescue of Mauritius is already vulnerable, Pink Pigeon, not gonna read its

729
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,840
scientific name, because Pink Pigeon is a specific goal within the dodo de-extension

730
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,840
project.

731
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,480
The Pink Pigeon was downgraded from being an endangered species in 2018, though the species

732
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,600
still faces a difficult future as a result of inbreeding, disease, and habitat loss.

733
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,320
See, at least inbreeding came up in something today, Taylor.

734
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Yes.

735
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,320
You got your wish.

736
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,320
It's a Christmas miracle.

737
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,600
According to Colossal Biosciences, there are roughly 500 Pink Pigeons left in Mauritius.

738
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,600
How would you ever know that?

739
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,440
I'm making room for the flightless dodo.

740
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Conservationists and scientists from Colossal Biosciences hope they'll save others like

741
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680
the Pink Pigeon from potentially facing the same fate.

742
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Oh, it is really a Pink Pigeon.

743
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,000
As expected, it's no easy feat to resurrect an extinct animal.

744
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,840
In their attempt to bring the dodo back, scientists will use genomic editing technology.

745
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,520
The bird's full genome has already been sequenced by Beth Shapiro, a lead paleogeneticist at

746
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,320
Colossal Biosciences.

747
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,360
To try and produce the dodo, the company said they will use interspecies sturigacy, namely

748
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,720
with genetically modified chickens.

749
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,960
According to the company, in theory, a chicken which has the hybridized primordial germ cells,

750
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,800
or PGCs, of a dodo injected into its embryo may be able to produce offspring that resembles

751
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,800
the extinct bird.

752
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,560
For its part, Roushian Wildlife Foundation will build models for long-term management

753
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,680
of the dodo to ensure it will thrive and be self-sustainable after it's reintroduced into

754
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,680
the wild.

755
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,360
It's not clear yet when Colossal Biosciences will be able to de-extinct the dodo, though

756
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,040
company executives have fielded snide remarks about their projects for years now, including

757
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,680
endless drastic part comparisons.

758
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,360
We've heard all those comments over here for years.

759
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Ben Lam, the company's co-founder and CEO, told the Dallas Morning News, quote, but we

760
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,520
have an opportunity to do it for good reasons because when you remove an animal from an

761
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,760
ecosystem, the ecological void is felt.

762
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,800
We're not out to build things that shouldn't exist, we're focused on undoing the sins

763
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,280
of the past and bringing back species to their native homes that mankind had a role in its

764
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,280
demise.

765
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,280
End quote.

766
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,680
The dodo is not the first creature to be chosen by Colossal Biosciences for a potential second

767
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,680
life.

768
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,960
The company earlier announced it would also attempt to revive the Tasmanian Tiger and

769
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520
bully mammoth, both of which remain extinct.

770
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920
Both of which we've done episodes on.

771
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Yes, so that's the end of that.

772
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:50,080
I wouldn't mind actually looking into this company because who funds something like this?

773
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Somebody must have a lot of money to just be like, let's just...

774
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,840
Yes, Chelsea, there's a lot of people who have a lot of money that you don't realize.

775
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,040
In fact, some of them spent it all going down to go see the Titanic.

776
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,040
That's a small few.

777
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,040
A small few.

778
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040
A small few.

779
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Some of them own a company.

780
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Some spend a day...

781
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
The extended...

782
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Yeah, some spend a day...

783
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Some spend a day putting money towards the extension.

784
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,640
Some spend the rest of their life going to see an old boat.

785
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,840
Anyhow, Chelsea, thank you for that.

786
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,440
I'm going to move on to the next.

787
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Although it's not the next one in our grouping, I'm going to go to the next one that I feel

788
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:30,040
comfortable talking about, which is of course, we need to give an update on the orcas.

789
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,560
Which we do need to give an update on the orcas.

790
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,800
My God, I'm going to read all the headlines, but I know which article I want to read to

791
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,800
you.

792
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,480
So we're going to get to that one last.

793
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:46,800
So first off from the New York Times, orcas keep sinking boats off Iberia unnerving sailors.

794
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,360
Next orcas are learning, clarifying new behaviors.

795
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Are they getting smarter?

796
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,880
Yeah, go orcas.

797
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Next orcas sink another boat in Europe after a nearly hour long attack.

798
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,640
And the one I will be reading to you right now.

799
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Okay, hold on.

800
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,760
Don't you want to read the Reddit post?

801
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,840
I have no idea what's in the Reddit post.

802
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,160
I want to read that one.

803
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Okay, can I read that?

804
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Sure.

805
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,960
There's a Reddit post that says, her orcas trying to tell us something.

806
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,000
And the poster user, Mayo Flavor Pusco asked the question.

807
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,280
Okay, so it seems once a week there's orcas in the news for terrorizing and sinking boats.

808
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,840
There's rumors of the location in the ocean as well as countless E.Y.P. sightings underwater.

809
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,400
Just like things are ramping up or gaining attention here on land.

810
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,840
Are the orcas trying to tell us about something happening in the sea?

811
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,440
Just food for thought.

812
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,640
I'm sorry, can I go to the first comment?

813
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,640
You may.

814
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,480
Which is from kookywarevul6044, which says, they're tired of our shit and that's ruining

815
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,480
their oceans.

816
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Which I think is the proper answer and not immediately going to aliens.

817
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,200
It is.

818
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Yeah.

819
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,240
I'm getting out there is a thought experiment.

820
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,240
Fair enough.

821
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,360
Anyhow, I need to go to how humans have responded to the orcas trying to take back the ocean.

822
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:14,280
And that is a CBS news article written by Lee Cohen, updated as of November 16th, 2023.

823
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Sailors are looking for new ways to word off orca attacks and some say blasting thrash

824
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
metal could be a game changer.

825
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,560
For years, killer whales have been attacking and sometimes capsizing boats in the waters

826
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,960
off Spain and Portugal.

827
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,640
Now sailors are working together to find a way to deter the orcas and may have found

828
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,040
a game changer solution blasting thrash metal music.

829
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,400
GTOA, a group that research killer whales in this region, including the Strait of Gibraltar,

830
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,240
where orcas sink a yacht in a 45 minute attack last month, has recorded hundreds of interactions

831
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,440
between the species and boats in the recent years.

832
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,080
The number of interactions when the whales fix their attention on a boat and either approach,

833
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,120
observe, or touch it has increased over the past three years.

834
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,520
There were 52 interactions over a five month period in the region in 2020.

835
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,400
The group found and in two years later in 2022, there were 207 recording interactions.

836
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,640
There have been several documented instances reported this year in a Facebook group of

837
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,200
more than 59,000 people, which is not a lot.

838
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,280
Sailors are swapping ideas for the best methods to save themselves from experiencing such

839
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,280
events.

840
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,160
The group members have shared their own encounters with one person saying that one point, the

841
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,720
whales were quote, putting their noses on the rudders and pushing, end quote.

842
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:36,600
Any movement, quote, any movement that makes that action uncomfortable for them will deter

843
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,600
them.

844
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,520
I just wakled the helm pretty violently so they would not want to put their nose there

845
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,240
and that worked instantly and they got bored quick, one said.

846
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,160
Earlier this week, one person sought advice as he prepared to cross through the Spanish

847
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,720
city of Malaga to the country's Canary Islands.

848
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,760
Sand, fireworks, and loud horns were all suggested to keep away the whales.

849
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,080
But one person had a suggestion which was a surefire way to avoid an attack.

850
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Quote, when we had an interaction last year, I'm pretty sure that rattling the hull by

851
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,800
playing full volume Eastern European thrash metal was the game changer.

852
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,920
They made three approaches and left five minutes without doing any damage.

853
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,320
That was two or three minutes into the music.

854
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,320
Good luck.

855
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,320
End quote.

856
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Florian Rusch told the New York Times that he's had two encounters with orcas and may

857
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,240
he try putting sand in the water and also put the boat in full throttle to rush away,

858
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,840
which he said worked.

859
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Then during his second encounter in November, Rusch, Rusch, it's a hard name.

860
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,040
It's R U T S C H.

861
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680
So Rootsch, something like that.

862
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,800
Said he also tried music, a Spotify playlist called Metal for Orcas that he played through

863
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,320
an underwater speaker and that instantial music didn't work.

864
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640
He said, but of course it didn't work.

865
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,600
That metal was for orcas.

866
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,480
This guy is not smart anyhow.

867
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160
And the orcas ended up attacking his vessel's rudder.

868
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,520
I mean, I could see you just amping them up.

869
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,080
His crew had to be rescued by Spanish authorities.

870
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,840
I think I should leave off on this quote and there's a lot more article to it, but I think

871
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,320
this is a good place to stop.

872
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,720
Quote, no one knows what works, what doesn't work.

873
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,560
End quote he told the Times.

874
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,520
So that's where we're at with that.

875
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:19,440
A blood of power dying fetus, exceptionally sadistic, monument of Miss Antherby, infinite

876
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,440
terror.

877
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:26,760
Did you find the Orca of Metal playlist?

878
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Just so everybody's aware, if it's called Metal for Orcas, that doesn't deter them.

879
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,880
That means they like it.

880
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,880
It amps them up and they form a mosh pit and then you're fucked.

881
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,440
If you're going to try any metal, it's death metal and make sure it is not on the Metal

882
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,000
for Orcas playlist.

883
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Yeah.

884
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Made by Orcas.

885
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,080
I think that's a fair place to leave this off.

886
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Okay, I'm going to give you an update.

887
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,880
You know, I don't know if this is the most recent one now because I think our panel of

888
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,540
researchers put this together like a while ago, maybe.

889
00:44:58,540 --> 00:45:03,160
This is an update from September 28, 2023 on the Mossman.

890
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,040
I know you've all been waiting for this.

891
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Shit, it's long.

892
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,160
I think the panel didn't think this.

893
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:14,480
The article is titled Woman Report, 6 to 7 foot tall creature with bright red eyes seen

894
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
in Chicago area forest preserve.

895
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,240
That's about good enough for a Mossman report, I feel like.

896
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:25,840
We've covered them pretty extensively and they are still being cited.

897
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,280
So with that, we may move on.

898
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Okay, I'm going to move on to my grouping I call it environment because we've had a

899
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,920
few things about the environment over the years, making you feel worse about everything.

900
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,880
But these are the articles that we have.

901
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,840
I'm going to pick the last one to read.

902
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,880
So first off, microplastics may affect weather.

903
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,360
New study finds.

904
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,560
Sludge in the gardens, toxic PFAS infertilizers made from sewage sludge.

905
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,840
US military says national security depends on forever chemicals.

906
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,840
Oh my God.

907
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Home majors cut natural disasters from policies over climate risk.

908
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Property insurances appears for Louisiana, but not for gas facilities.

909
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,880
And the one I will be reading is of course.

910
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:13,760
From the Guardian posted on November 7, 2023, written by Tom Perkins and is titled US chemical

911
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:20,920
industry likely spent $110 million trying to thwart PFAS legislation study finds.

912
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,120
Oh my God.

913
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:27,640
US chemical industry likely spent over $110 million during the last two election cycles

914
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,240
deploying lobbyists to kill dozens of pieces of PFAS legislation and slow administrative

915
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:38,280
regulation around quote forever chemicals and quote a new analysis of federal lobbying

916
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,680
documents is found.

917
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,920
The industry onslaught was effective.

918
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Only eight pieces of legislation have targeted PFAS and it made it through Congress and the

919
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,440
paper prepared by the Food and Water Watch FWW nonprofit found quote.

920
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,840
There's an extreme amount of money that's going into fighting PFAS legislation.

921
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:02,080
Set a man to Starbucks FWW research director and the lead author on the report quote.

922
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,280
It's hard to win these fights when there's much funding being put in from the opposing

923
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:13,440
side and quote PFAS are a class of over 14,000 chemicals used to make products and resist

924
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,880
water stains and heat and they are known as forever chemicals because they do not naturally

925
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,920
break down and they have been linked to cancer, high cholesterol, liver disease, kidney disease,

926
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,320
fetal complications and other serious health problems.

927
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,320
As the dangers from PFAS have come into sharper focus over the last decade, lawmakers, the

928
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,760
Environmental Protection Agency and other administrative agencies have come under an

929
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:43,120
ever increasing amount of pressure to rein in the chemicals use and clean up pollution.

930
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,960
Chemical manufacturers spending has jumped in response quote.

931
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,200
The chemical and associated industries are powerful and have used their army of lobbyists

932
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,280
and campaign finance war chest to thwart meaningful action and quote the paper states.

933
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,960
It looked at lobbying records for eight major producers such as 3M, Chimors and Honeywell

934
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:10,480
and during the 2019 2020 and 2021 2022 election cycles over 130 PFAS bills were introduced

935
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,560
in Congress.

936
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,320
The report noted of the eight that passed only two were standalone bills while PFAS provisions

937
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,440
were included in several larger pieces of legislation like the National Defense Authorization

938
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Act.

939
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,600
I think that's a good place to stop.

940
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,440
I think it just gave everybody a good idea that there's a reason that this is still

941
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,560
going on and we're one of the people who are still reporting on it as a fringe topic.

942
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:40,160
I think that's pretty disturbing news overall, especially not only that, but a lot of the

943
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:45,720
articles that we've also just listed definitely in the interest of some of these major corporations

944
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:46,720
too.

945
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:50,320
Yes, and by major corporations, of course, being the US military.

946
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,720
Yes, especially that major corporation.

947
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,800
Some may say the largest corporation.

948
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Next update is the San Francisco police robots.

949
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,520
I don't know if we remember.

950
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,040
We have to remember those.

951
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,200
This one just has one headline, which is police proposal to use potentially deadly robots

952
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160
approved in San Francisco.

953
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,600
I think that's a standalone.

954
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,600
I think that cuts right to the chase.

955
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Anything else would be filler.

956
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,240
Next one is an update with George Santos, the liar, if you recall him, who seems to be

957
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:26,120
making a pretty good go for himself if I am to judge by these headlines.

958
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Chelsea, can I, before we get to that point, can I just give you like a background on everything

959
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,240
he's been up to in the last little while?

960
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,240
Sure.

961
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:41,000
So this man just has no idea what world he lives in, just because I don't think a person

962
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,880
who exists in this realm is able to just say these things.

963
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,840
So just a few ideas.

964
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,920
First off, his name may not be George Santos, it might also be Anthony de Volder, which

965
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:00,920
is an alias he goes by at his defrauded people through, including war veterans who needed

966
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,080
food for their dogs, which he has used to steal money.

967
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:11,760
Next up, he has claimed on his website and on Twitter that he was the grandson of a Holocaust

968
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,000
refugee who fled Jewish persecution in the Ukraine.

969
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,880
However, this appears to be a lie and they have found that the government documents indicating

970
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Santos' maternal grandparents actually were both born in Brazil prior to World War II.

971
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,000
So one of the lies he's been saying.

972
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,840
Santos also claimed that he graduated from the New York Barrick College in 2010 with

973
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,400
a degree in economics and finance, and then he worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.

974
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,480
However, the college could find no record of Santos ever having attended as a student

975
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,400
and neither company has any record of him working for them.

976
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Santos' claim that he and his family have owned 13 properties and has not received

977
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,200
rent for nearly a year.

978
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,040
He later admitted to the New York Post that he doesn't own any properties and is currently

979
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,920
living with his sister.

980
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,960
He's just gonna say and he doesn't have a family.

981
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,760
Honestly, he might not.

982
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,960
Anyhow, I'm gonna finish this up.

983
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,440
There's more, like a lot more.

984
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,960
Santos' claim that his mother died during the 9-11 attacks and she was on one of the

985
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,960
World Trade Centers.

986
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,640
However, he later contradicted this claim by stating that his mother died on December

987
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,640
23rd, 2016.

988
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,840
A digital obituary claim that his mother passed away on that date.

989
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Santos' claim to be the first openly gay Republican elected to Congress, but an investigation

990
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,360
found that he was actually married to a woman between 2012 and 2017.

991
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,080
I actually find that the least of his lies.

992
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,320
Just because you're married to a woman doesn't mean you're not gay.

993
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,040
It just means you're lying in a different way.

994
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:46,000
He is also later admitted to this, but insisted that he is quote, very much gay and holy.

995
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,880
Santos' also claimed that he founded a tax-exempt animal rights group Friends of Pets United,

996
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960
which rescued more than 2,500 cats and dogs.

997
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,760
However, no records relating to the group's charitable status could be found by the IRS

998
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,000
or the New York or New Jersey Attorney General's office.

999
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,240
This is also where he defrauded several veterans and the name Anthony DeVolder came up.

1000
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:14,760
It has also came up that he was a drag queen in Brazil for a while, which is really weird

1001
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,720
for a Republican candidate and congressman.

1002
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:24,480
Anyhow, for a while there, he was threatened to be expelled from Congress and he said he

1003
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,720
was going to air all the dirty laundry of Congresspeople for the Republican Party.

1004
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,040
And he was expelled.

1005
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,680
I don't trust anything he would say about anybody in the Republican Party anyways, because

1006
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,360
this guy just fucking lies all the time.

1007
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,440
And now I think that Chelsea has an update on what he's currently up to because he has

1008
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,680
been expelled from Congress.

1009
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,440
He's no longer a congressman.

1010
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,640
So from there, I think Chelsea can take it away.

1011
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
There's a lot of fucking lies for this guy.

1012
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,440
I remember going through them and also remember you going through them right now.

1013
00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:00,000
And I just love whenever you find an article that mentions George Santos on Reddit and

1014
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,960
they say it's such a shame that they're treating somebody who was an original signer of the

1015
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,840
Declaration of Independence this way.

1016
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Like it's just great.

1017
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,840
Wait, what?

1018
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,840
No, like a joke.

1019
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,760
Like he's lying about everything he's done.

1020
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,280
So like you should never treat a world war one better in this way.

1021
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,760
Or somebody who's been to the moon with Buzz Aldrin.

1022
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,240
I love this story.

1023
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,320
I think it's great.

1024
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,320
I may be late to the party, but did we read the headlines?

1025
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,480
I said that you still have the story about what he's up to recently since he's been

1026
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,680
kicked out of Congress.

1027
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,960
Right, because I've been listening the whole time.

1028
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Here we go.

1029
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,960
The headlines.

1030
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,720
Here's a story that we lie told by George Santos, which Taylor gave you a quick update

1031
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:38,720
on.

1032
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,840
George Santos in plea talks to resolve criminal charges.

1033
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:48,240
George Santos expelled from US Congress in wake of criminal charges, ethics disgrace.

1034
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,160
And last but not least, the final update on George Santos.

1035
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,440
George Santos says he's making over 80,000 a day on cameo.

1036
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,000
He's the true, like what's the word I'm looking for?

1037
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Anthony DeVolder.

1038
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Yeah.

1039
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,400
That was the exact word I was looking for.

1040
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,960
I think that just is a great end for George Santos right now.

1041
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,400
I also don't trust that he's actually making 80,000 a day right now because he fucking

1042
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,720
lies about everything.

1043
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,920
So why would he actually be truthful about how much he's making right now, especially

1044
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,000
after hitting like an all time low?

1045
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,440
You don't think he'd tell one truth?

1046
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,440
No, just to shake things up.

1047
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,040
I don't in fact think this is where he would decide to start telling the truth.

1048
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,880
But maybe he just wants to like throw one in there.

1049
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,880
One.

1050
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,120
I don't think it's just coincidental.

1051
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,320
He may in fact be living his best life, but I don't anticipate him like telling us truthfully

1052
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,920
he's living his best life.

1053
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,680
I feel like he is.

1054
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Next, Cop City.

1055
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,080
Do we remember Cop City?

1056
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,080
I remember Cop City.

1057
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,600
I remember, did I give the update where that guy was murdered in his tent?

1058
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,560
Yeah, I don't know.

1059
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,760
You might have just given the update.

1060
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,160
That shouldn't be the most recent update.

1061
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,640
He was clearly murdered like without any reason.

1062
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,640
My cops.

1063
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,360
My cops for Cop City.

1064
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,760
Of course, it's Cop City for Cop City.

1065
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,160
I can't remember.

1066
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,640
Here at the article headlines we have.

1067
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,640
Exclusive.

1068
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:12,040
A prominent election rights lawyer is calling out Atlanta's voter suppression on Cop City

1069
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,040
referendum.

1070
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,720
Second, analysis.

1071
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:20,200
It's uncertain if push to stop Cop City got enough valid signers for Atlanta referendum.

1072
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,520
I want to go with the first one just because it says Mother Jones and eventually I do want

1073
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,480
to do a Mother Jones episode because she's a real person.

1074
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,480
Okay.

1075
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,080
We'll be next year's history of violence strikes.

1076
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,600
Okay, so I already read the headline.

1077
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,440
One of the most prominent Democratic Party-aligned law firms, Elias Law Group, led by noted election

1078
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,760
lawyer Mark Elias, has waded into the legal battle surrounding the proposed ballot referendum

1079
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,640
for Atlanta's Public Safety Training Center.

1080
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,120
Better known as Cop City.

1081
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,280
That is better known.

1082
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,440
On Monday, the vote to stop Cop City Coalition, the organization leading the campaign to place

1083
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,760
the building on the controversial police training center onto the ballot for a citywide vote,

1084
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,120
sent a memorandum to the city government with a clear message.

1085
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Atlanta must not engage in voter suppression on the referendum.

1086
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,640
The memo includes a draft of a proposed ordinance that, if adopted, would standardize the city's

1087
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:20,040
petition review process for ballot referendums and prevent the use of the discredited verification

1088
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,600
tactic known as signature matching.

1089
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,160
According to a copy shared exclusively with Mother Jones, a representative from the vote

1090
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,320
to stop the Cop City Coalition also told Mother Jones that Atlanta City Council member

1091
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Liliana Tiari will be introducing the ordinance to the council.

1092
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:42,160
The drafted ordinance is supported by the Elias Law Group, owned by Mark Elias, one

1093
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,040
of the most prolific attorneys in the country on voting rights litigation and threats to

1094
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,040
democracy.

1095
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Wow.

1096
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,920
That's a really good title to have.

1097
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,760
That's a prolific attorney.

1098
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,040
Could you imagine his business cards?

1099
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,040
Probably like pure gold.

1100
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,040
Most prolific.

1101
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,040
Like an attorney.

1102
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,440
In the past, Elias has advised both the Democratic National Senatorial Committee and the Democratic

1103
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,240
Congressional Campaign Committee.

1104
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:08,920
He is the former council for the Democratic National Committee and the White House under

1105
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,280
the president Joe Biden.

1106
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Elias's firm oversaw Democratic's in 2018, one of the most influential.

1107
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,240
Okay.

1108
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,680
His activist has attempted to put the facility up for a vote.

1109
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Local politicians and officials have delayed or stalled the process.

1110
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Using tactics, Democratic politicians have repeatedly called out in Georgia as a hindrance

1111
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,360
to democracy when done by Republicans.

1112
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,840
I thought that said reptilians for a second, but that's a different article.

1113
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Anti-Cops.

1114
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:50,600
They have now added another flank of support.

1115
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,000
Mainstream Democrats frustrated by subversion of election procedures.

1116
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,480
It means Elias's firm finds itself aligned against an unexpected opponent, Mayor Andre

1117
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:06,600
Dickens, a Democrat and member of the 2024 Biden-Harris Campaign Advisory Board, along

1118
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,520
with the majority Democrat City Council.

1119
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,920
Several high-profile Democratic and voting rights stalwarts have come out against Mayor

1120
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Dickens and the city of Atlanta's handling of the referendum petition process, including

1121
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,640
former Jubernitorial candidate.

1122
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Gubernitorial.

1123
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Yeah.

1124
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,760
Or Gubernitorial.

1125
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,920
It's stupid how they do it.

1126
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,920
It's the head of the state.

1127
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,920
Okay.

1128
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,920
Candidate.

1129
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,600
Representatives later Stacey Abrams Senator, but some other people, long list of Georgia-based

1130
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,200
voting rights organizations.

1131
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,180
Dickens is joined in his support for the facility by Georgia's Republican Governor Brian Kemp.

1132
00:58:46,180 --> 00:58:50,460
As previously reported, the referendum petition to put Cop City on the ballot was launched

1133
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:54,400
in June as one of the final attempts in the multi-year movement to stop the construction

1134
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,640
of the Massive Police Training Center.

1135
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Campaign to stop Cop City has taken on a diversity of tactics including militant forest

1136
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,160
defense, extensive litigation in court and lobbying of elected officials like the city

1137
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:11,060
council. The repression has been intense and widespread. Georgia law enforcement killed

1138
00:59:11,060 --> 00:59:15,460
one protestor in a forest raid. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation maintains that the

1139
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:21,580
protestor shot first to claim which activists, vehemently, refute. Over 60 protestors have

1140
00:59:21,580 --> 00:59:24,180
been indicted on their ethnic domestic terrorism.

1141
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:29,600
Yeah, just so everybody's aware, like the cop response is fucked. I believe his name's

1142
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,740
Tutagera. He clearly did not shoot first based on evidence. In fact, he probably didn't

1143
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:40,100
even have a gun. And the people who are being charged for protesting this are being charged

1144
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:42,040
with terrorism. Like it's fucked.

1145
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,340
That's crazy. That is fucked. Indicted on either domestic terrorism or racketeering

1146
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:49,160
charges that civil liberty groups have called unprecedented.

1147
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:54,160
Oh yeah, they're also being charged with RICO. That's what they charge mob bosses with.

1148
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,880
Because they have nothing to actually charge them specifically with because they didn't

1149
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,760
do anything, but they told people to do things. So they're charging these protesters with

1150
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,460
it. Like it's fucked.

1151
01:00:04,460 --> 01:00:06,680
Isn't that what Don Zinger was?

1152
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1153
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:14,160
See, I learned things. The referendum campaign had an August deadline to collect 58,000 signatures

1154
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,720
to put the potential building of Cop City up for both this November. In July, a federal

1155
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:24,480
judge ruled that non Atlanta residents such as those in unincorporated Del Cab County

1156
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,280
or Cop City is being built were allowed to collect signatures for the petition. Only

1157
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,080
Atlanta residents eligible to vote can sign the petition. This gave the referendum campaign

1158
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,360
an updated September deadline.

1159
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:40,600
And in August, as a referendum campaign prepared to turn in over 100,000 signatures, well over

1160
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,960
the threshold needed to qualify for the ballot, the city clerk of Atlanta announced that the

1161
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,280
city would use a method called signature matching as part of their verification process. Signature

1162
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,720
matching is supposedly a way to prevent fraud in which a voter signature on a ballot or

1163
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,800
in this case, petition is confirmed to correspond with the signature from the same voter registered

1164
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,440
in the state's database, but it has been criticized widely as a method of voting.

1165
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:08,560
It's incredibly stupid. Chelsea, imagine somebody comes to that's not free speech. Not only

1166
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,480
that. Imagine somebody comes to your door with a clipboard and explains of an issue

1167
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,360
that you actually like, oh, shit, that makes sense. I want to sign for this. And you sign

1168
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,680
on the clipboard. Is that going to match your normal signature?

1169
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:24,160
Probably not. I mean, how was any one signature ever going to exactly match?

1170
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Not exactly match, but like within 90% range. Like it's stupid that they're even matching

1171
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,440
it all. But yes, your signature is not going to match sitting down and writing as opposed

1172
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,920
to having a clipboard in your hand and signing something.

1173
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,360
Yes, good point. I was like, it might match and you're right clipboard compared to sitting

1174
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,000
down and signing something is different. The clerk's announcement prompted more than 25

1175
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,320
of the leading voting rights groups in Georgia to condemn Meridikins and the city government

1176
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,760
for using a practice typically associated with Republicans attempts to disenfranchise

1177
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,880
voters. In 2018, Georgia's Gwynett County was the subject of two lawsuits ever signature

1178
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,360
matching. When the data was analyzed, experts found that black voters were almost three

1179
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,440
times as likely to have their ballots rejected as white voters. What?

1180
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,800
At the same time, city officials announced the controversial verification process they

1181
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,640
signed you to use the appealed the July decision that extended the deadline. The city's attorneys

1182
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,920
argued that the entire petition process was invalid. In September, the 11th Circuit Court

1183
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,160
of Appeals issued a stay halting the July decision. This put the entire referendum campaign

1184
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,800
into a state of limbo and it prompted Mark Cohen, the federal judge from the July ruling

1185
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:40,480
to admonish the facilitating positions of the city of Atlanta throughout the litigation.

1186
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:47,280
This goes on and on. I feel like we kind of get the idea of what's what's going on here

1187
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:53,040
that they're basically trying to stop anyone from going against Cops City. They really

1188
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,680
fucking want Cops City. Yeah, I mean, it's Cops City. It sounds like something you want.

1189
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,960
Doesn't it? Thank you for that update, Chelsea. There's one more thing I would like to update

1190
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,040
on before we end. If there's anything else you want to update on, like go ahead, but

1191
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,760
this is just like the last one I want to show you get. And this is on the Mooneys, which

1192
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:18,320
we talked about in the post World War Two Japan episodes, which actually somehow are

1193
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,320
our best episodes of the year. I don't get it, but you guys love it. So we're just going

1194
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,400
to talk Japan all the time now, probably become an anime podcast at some point. But until

1195
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:33,320
that time, who knows? Last update we kind of had on it is that the unification church

1196
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:39,720
was not the people who murdered Shinzo Abe, but kind of the whole reason that Shinzo Abe

1197
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,400
ended up getting assassinated by the person because his family lost all their money to

1198
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,560
the unification church. I have a few articles to go over and I'm just going to finish off

1199
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:54,280
with the last one. First off, Japan's leaders grilled in parliament over a widening fundraising

1200
01:03:54,280 --> 01:04:00,040
scandal linked to unification church. Next one, Japan diet enacts law aimed at relief

1201
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:06,360
for ex unification church victims. Japan's PM quote not aware and quote unification

1202
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:12,640
church members present at 2019 talks. The Mainichi Japan enacts law to monitor unification

1203
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:19,640
church assets and the article I am going to read is from CNN. It was posted October 21st,

1204
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,760
2020. Why is Japan seeking to dissolve the dissolution of the controversial unification

1205
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:30,320
church written by Amiko Josuko? Japan's government on Friday asked the court to order

1206
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,520
the dissolution of the unification church branch in Japan following the assassination

1207
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:39,800
of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in July 2022. The government's move comes

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after a months long probe into the church, firmly known in Japan as the Family Federation

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for World Peace and Unification. The investigation followed claims by the suspected shooter Tetsuya

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Yamagami that he fatally shot Abe because he believed the leader was associated with

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the church, which Yamagami blamed for being corrupting his family through the excessive

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donations of his mother and member. Earlier in January, Japanese prosecutors indicted

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Yamagami on murder and firearm charges. The government's investigation concluded that

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the group's practices, including fundraising activities, that allegedly pressured followers

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to make exorbitant donations violated the 1951 Religious Corporations Act. The law allows

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Japanese courts to order the dissolution of a religious group if it has committed an act

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quote, clearly found to harm public welfare substantially. The Tokyo District Court will

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now make a judgment based on the evidence submitted by the government, according to

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Japan's public broadcaster NHK. This is the third time the Japanese government has sought

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dissolution order for a religious group accused of violating the act. It also sought to dissolve

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the AYAM SHINRIKYU cult after some of its members carried out a deadly 1995 sarin gas

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attack on the Tokyo subway system, which left dozens dead and thousands injured, and the

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Miyakakuji Temple, whose priests defrauded people by charging them for exorcisms. The

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court ruled with the government on both orders. The Unification Church in Japan has repeatedly

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denied any wrongdoing, pledging reform and labeling the news coverage against it as

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biased and fake. On Thursday, it issued a statement saying it was very regrettable that the government

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was seeking dissolution orders, and particularly as it had been, quote, working on reforming

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the church, end quote, since 2009. It added that it would make a legal counter-argument

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against the court order. And I think that's as far as we need to go because the rest is

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all history and we've talked about it, so Japan may in fact actually be getting rid

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of this cult. But don't worry, there's lots more cults out there than we've talked about.

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It is never ending so amazing. Just a couple more, just for the wrap up, I think. A surprising

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amount of big update for shrinkflation. Particles we have shrinkflation is a common grocery

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irritant. A new task force wants to probe it, which is coming from globalnews.ca. So

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this is Canada-specific, taller box, less cereal, calls for more transparency when

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companies shrink your groceries. Also from CBC News, which is Canadian. So right now,

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I don't think I really need to read them. Obviously, the Canadian government is actually

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looking into shrinkflation. Hopefully we'll put an end to it. I know I did come across

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an article of Korea issuing statements when they're going to be putting less product in

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somewhere. We've looked into shrinkflation. It is rampant right now, especially with

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rising grocery costs. Next one I just want to touch on quickly. Brittany Spears. We had

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a three part episode on her. As I predicted in my episodes, divorce from Sam Asgari and

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Brittany Spears.

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You're going to predict it. That's right. Journey to the Fringe predicted. Oh yes, you

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heard it here first. The other update is she put out a book. I've yet to read it. An update

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nonetheless. I've heard good things actually.

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We're about Justin Timberlake and have you? I know it was really popular. I kind of want

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it. Listen to the audiobook.

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Like I've actually heard it does disclose some pretty significant stuff. So. Really? Okay.

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I didn't hear that, but I'm on it now. I did hear good things actually.

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Woolly Mammoth Meatball. No update. There's literally been no update from Spitar.

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No, you know what? Probably people who would have a tag died because it's such a boring

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news article, but that's okay. We still cover.

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Nobody's tasted Woolly Mammoth Meat. Still pending. Literally no update. Last thing we

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have to update. Do you want to update on this one? Five eyes.

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Oh right. I forgot about that. And you know what? That is one that probably needs an updating.

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I didn't know that it was five eye. An assassination has just happened in Canada. It caught me

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off guard. Chelsea, I catch you off guard. It was huge. The assassination didn't just

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happen. The news of the ball out of it just happened.

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Yes. Most importantly, another assassination attempt was awarded in the US within the month.

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It's been like less than three weeks since this happened, but yeah, a lot of people like to

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point it's Trudeau being weak for this. I don't think that's something that we need to politically

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get involved in, but it is tied to an article that we're in episode that we've done, which

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is the five eyes episode. This article, five eyes intelligence and form Trudeau's India

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allegations. CTV. And this article comes from Reuters, September 23rd, 2023, written by

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nobody. That's how you would say that word Reuters. I would say Reuters if it were me.

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Yes, you would. US ambassador to Canada, David Cohen confirmed that, quote, shared intelligence

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among five eyes partners and, quote, had informed Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of

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the possible involvement of Indian agents in the murder of a Canadian citizen in June.

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Intelligence sharing network five eyes includes the US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New

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Zealand. Trudeau said on Monday that Ottawa had credible intelligence linking Indian agents

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to the murder of Sikh separatist leader, Hardip Singh Najjar. Vancouver, prompting an angry

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reaction from New Delhi, which denies the allegation. I actually think that's as far as we need

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to go for this. That sounds enough. Yeah, I can give you a bit of an idea of the man who

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was murdered believes that there should be a free nation called Calistan where the Sikhs

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live. It's not Pakistan. It's not India who doesn't even really want that name anymore.

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They want Calistan in between for the Sikhs. I know very little of it, but I think there's

1278
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a lot of persecution in Sikhs and certain areas. There is. And India has apparently gone on

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an assassination spree of people who are calling for a free Sikh nation because they murdered

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the person in Canada. They've been thwarted in several other countries of people who are

1281
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critical and want a free Sikh nation as well. This is something to watch, which won't necessarily

1282
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:04,240
just be a five eyes thing, but the five eyes are the people who told us that this person

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was murdered by the Indian government. Interesting. I didn't know it was related. I do know India's

1284
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piss. They cut off visas for Canada for a little bit. I believe. But at the same time, they

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haven't denied it because they're also very proud that they murdered this person, which

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is super fucked up. They did not deny it. They also said that Canada was harboring a

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:30,320
terrorist as I believe what they said about it. It was huge. This happened maybe a month

1288
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:36,000
ago or so. Well, he was assassinated in Canada. Oh, it was June? Probably the article I just

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read. I mean, I heard more about this Trudeau thing than about his assassination, but yeah,

1290
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there's a lot of people who like to portray this as Trudeau being weak. I don't think that's

1291
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:53,120
the proper way to categorize this article. No, I don't think so. I would like to put it more as

1292
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five eyes, but I think that's all the updates we have. We had more updates than I thought we had.

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That's quite the episode. And thank you for listening through this whole episode and being

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with us throughout the year of 2023. And we promise to bring you more exciting and reviewed

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episodes in the coming year. Yeah, review? Because no, at the end, we have to review them and add

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to them. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. That doesn't mean that we edit our work. No, of course not.

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But in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe.

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Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. Bye.

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