From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe.
Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe, where introspection happens but once per year
and is not for reflection, it is only for elaboration, the only way that someone should introspect.
Now we are your introspective, but not reflective host, Taylor and Chelsea.
Here today to bring you a year in review.
Now Chelsea, it has been quite a year, has it not?
Very quite a year.
Okay, that's all I got.
Some would say that's phoning it in, others would say it's enough, but it is what it is.
Now we have covered many a topics over the course of this last year.
Some of them happened for sure, some of them probably didn't happen actually, who knows?
Yeah, I can't remember what we did now.
Yeah, there's a lot.
Now that we have two episodes a week, there's almost a hundred episodes this year, so it's
a lot.
You can't reflect on all of it.
So what we really did is we took the meat of our best things that we felt that we needed
to follow up on.
We have compiled several articles to talk about and we're going to do two things.
First we're going to read out some article headlines of things that relate to any topic
and then we're going to actually cover an article within that.
So Chelsea, I think I explained that well enough.
I don't know for sure though.
Yeah, people just catch up, just go with it.
Yeah, if it didn't make sense, just skip it a minute ahead.
You'll be right in the thick of it and you'll be good to go.
Just keep listening, you'll catch up, I'm sure.
And without further ado, I think I'm just going to let Chelsea take over from here.
Yeah, so first up, this one per se, King Charles.
I mean, I don't think we covered directly King Charles.
We talked about King Chuck quite a few times.
I mean, he's come up, I think.
It was first off when the Queen almost died, which that might have been 2022 because I
think that's when the stare happened.
Yeah, that was the original one.
And then the second time is when he almost evicted his brother or wasn't the process
of evicting his brother.
It's mostly been in relation to regular person Andy, which the media still calls him Prince
Andrew and I think I know that they must have something wrong with them.
What do they know?
Or what does British Andy have on them that we are not restrained by?
Is that not like giving him more credit than he is worth?
It's not only that, it's giving him something that has clearly been taken away from him.
Exactly.
They think we won't know who regular person Andy is if we just call him by his real name.
And then at that point, who wants to pay attention to him?
No, and in my mind, it's like just calling Twitter, which is now known as X, just calling
it X.
Like nobody should do it.
When people do it, I just find it weird.
It's like the same thing, but reverse with British Andy.
Nobody should call him Prince Andrew, but they do.
So why?
I don't get it.
With Twitter, everyone has to call it X, formally known as Twitter, or else everyone
would be lost.
So I guess you got to call him regular person Andy, previously known as Prince Andrew.
Yeah, you just can't say Prince because that's a different person.
Yeah, I don't.
I think I've never looked for it.
I had a long begrudging pause before I said Andrew.
Okay, King Charles somehow we're updating on him.
Anyhow, here are the headlines that we've chosen for this particular episode.
First up UFO pictured with red arrows flying over King Charles's coronation.
Is it King Charles?
Is it King Chuck's?
That just rolls off the tongue better.
This one is the truth about aliens could be exposed with one phone call.
This one doesn't actually say how it relates to King Charles.
You got to trust things in there somewhere.
I'm sure it does.
I'm sure we've done our due diligence, you know what?
Last but not least, King Charles urged to push UK government for UFO disclosure ahead
of extraterrestrial contact.
So since we can't ask the audience, we will be acting on behalf of the audience.
What one would we like to delve into?
You know what?
I'm just going to trust you that that one about the phone call is about King Chuck and
we're just going to go with the last one.
Yeah, I mean, why would we want to prove that it is actually about him?
No, we need that trust.
If anything this podcast is about, it is trust.
Does he ever look like the queen?
What is fucked up?
Oh, there's a picture here.
He looks exactly like her.
Can I copy him faces?
Oh, God.
Sorry, as soon as you click on the article, yeah, it's that awkward grin.
It looks just like her.
It's so creepy, like the eyes and everything.
Why is the queen wearing a tie?
I don't get it.
I never noticed that before.
Okay, let's dig into this.
Okay, this is from markka.com, which I don't think I've ever heard of before until this
moment.
King Charles faces, I thought it was going to be about how his face looks just like the
queen, but it's not.
It goes on.
King Charles face is a different thing than King Charles faces.
Just so you know.
It's mostly face, okay?
King Charles faces mounting pressure to urge the UK government to unveil more information
concerning UFOs and the potential existence of extraterrestrial life.
This move is deemed crucial to prepare for the anticipated scenario of the UK's first
contact with beings from beyond our planet.
What is this website again?
Oh, God, I really hope that our ambassador to aliens is not.
Is not King Jack.
Yeah.
Me too.
This man can't even evict a delinquent.
No.
Like, he's fucked that up.
And nobody likes him.
Nobody.
And the advantage of the queen's kids are we talking about here?
All of them.
Yeah.
No, wait, I'm sorry.
She has more than nevermind.
Nevermind.
We don't need to delve to.
Yes, I don't.
But we don't like any of them.
Let's just leave it at that.
Intriguingly, Mark Christopher Lee's recent documentary, God vs Aliens.
So he's an expert on the subject.
Loves into the potential impact of discovering extraterrestrial life on religious beliefs.
According to the UK Mirror, Lee asserts that King Charles, similar to his late father,
Prince Philip, holds an interest in UFOs.
How do we know that he had an interest?
Anyhow, Lee contends that as the leader of the Church of England, Charles carries the
responsibility to ready the global followers of the Church for the potential revelation
that humanity isn't the sole sentient life in the cosmos.
Is the leader of the Church of England?
What?
Weird.
The Church of England is weird.
Like the Pope.
Lee urged.
Like the Pope?
Yeah.
We've talked about this.
In fact, I think it was in one of these episodes about him that the Church of England is entirely
separated from the Catholic Church because King Henry VIII wanted to marry somebody else,
but the Pope wouldn't give him a divorce.
Can't remember what episode that was talked about him, but yes, we did talk about that.
Actually, I think it was, who's the seer, the witch of Mother Shipton?
Oh, Mother Shipton.
Yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
Prime Minister.
Lee urged.
I'm calling on our King to put pressure on the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, to release
the truth about what the UK knows about UFOs to the public.
He stressed the necessity to extend this pressure to governments worldwide highlighting the universe
nature of the issue.
I just have to say this now, if the UK had anything to say about it, Rishi Sunak would
release it immediately because he needs anything to distract them with how shitty of a job
that the Conservative Party has been doing in the UK.
I'm like, do you know how much of a ghetto to jail free that is?
I mean, it's not of all.
I don't either.
It's got to be worth something.
It does.
I think it would be.
The film God vs. Aliens is about the impact and how people can prepare for massive changes
to their place in the world.
Lee elaborated.
He emphasized that the coexistence of different belief systems could challenge established
religious paradigms, questioning whether they would endure in the face of potential extraterrestrial
perspectives.
Ope.
Former head of the UK's UFO program proposed a thought-provoking notion.
Yeah.
We need to.
I think you need to specify.
You said Pope, who is not the Pope, but Nick Pope.
Nick Pope.
Who was in charge of the British UFO disclosure project or basic.
Yeah.
He's pretty.
It should be noted that he is not the Pope, but Nick Pope.
He's actually not come up on our UFO assholes.
I wonder if he should.
I haven't heard anything nefarious about him.
I feel like we'll do an episode.
It's kind of like him.
I feel like he's in the same ballpark as Jacques Vallée in that they'll get episodes.
Whether or not they're deemed assholes, I don't think they will be at this point, but
at the same time, I don't know.
It's because they're people I thought would not be assholes.
I ended up being very much the assholes so far.
It's true.
We've found out some stuff in this podcast overall.
I continue.
He contemplated the idea of these beings introducing unconventional belief systems to our world,
approaching a reevaluation of humanity's own convictions.
Nick Pope ponders, what if the aliens brought their own crazy gods, something that we would
regard as just weird and crazy?
Would they impose them on us?
These are the questions we might have to face.
I'm reading this as Nick Pope, if you didn't realize, if I sounded like my own.
First off, yeah, it's weird that Nick Pope does not have a British accent.
Second off, would it be weirder if they had different gods or if they had the
exact same fucking god?
Wouldn't that be weird?
Who was it?
There was somebody.
No, can you imagine if all these aliens come, like several different species of aliens,
and they all worship Zeus?
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be weird?
Okay, it's for an episode I haven't done yet that I've been researching for what seems
like forever, Valiant Thor.
Oh, yes.
He really preached how Jesus was the Lord and Savior.
Oh, yeah, and he would go to different planets.
Probably when he died here, he reincarnated on a different planet.
It's unclear.
Oh, okay.
But he is the Lord and Savior, at least of Venetians as well.
Okay.
So he's at least also been there.
Anyhow, that's the spoiler alert for future episodes.
In my mind, that would be more impactful if aliens came with the same gods as opposed
to different gods.
Well, yeah, because then it's like, okay, Zeus really does exist.
And that's trouble.
It's not the new gods.
It's one of the old gods.
Or fucking Cthulhu.
They're like, oh yeah, yeah, HP Lovecraft, he had it right.
He had it right.
He was a seer.
What's a new god, for example?
Oh, sorry, I'm talking about like polytheism.
New god would be God of the monotheistic religions.
Anyhow, I think that's a good place to end it because there's only one sense left.
You got boring from there.
Why read that?
Yeah, I agree.
So that brings us to our next topic.
Would you like to read the next headline or would you like me to?
I want to leave you with this one just because I want the next article, which segues very
nicely into the next one, which I also want to read.
So I think that's a good way to do it.
Okay.
Did we agree that I do the next one?
Yes.
Okay.
And that brings us to regular person Andy, formerly known as he's always been regular
person Andy to me in my heart, especially in his heart, too.
I'm sure of it.
Oh, yes.
The man does not exude royalty.
He does not.
That's for sure.
I see that we didn't include any of the many articles that I came across while researching
this of that he left his house and was on a horse.
You put this together.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm just trying to make it so much more professional than our operation actually is.
Okay.
We didn't include our team did not include all the articles about and true writing.
We're at the top of them about this.
There were quite a few articles about him emerging from his fucking hole to write a
horse.
Okay.
Let's get to these.
What are they called headlines?
Okay.
Lesser articles.
Yes.
Three articles.
Prince Andrew faces renewed calls to meet FBI investigators after Duke of York's friend
and fashion mogul Peter Nygaard was convicted on four counts of sexual assault.
So that's great.
Prince Andrew really rolled with a great group of people.
I see.
I don't know if Peter Nygaard was ever tied to Jeffrey Epstein actually.
I don't know.
And we have not read the article.
So.
No.
It is well not at this point even though there are questions.
To be fair, just so everybody knows behind the bastards has a two part episode on Peter
Nygaard.
Oh really?
Did I listen to that?
No.
I watched a documentary on Peter Nygaard though.
Prince Andrew sends royal family with another blow in new scandal.
Who knows if that's related to that last one.
Next one.
King Chuck reportedly decided not to evict Prince Andrew.
Those are the articles.
Which one catches your attention the most?
You know what?
I gotta know about the new scandal.
I feel King Chuck's too weak.
We knew that was gonna happen.
Peter Nygaard, that's great.
There will probably be an update in the future.
I need to know about this new scandal.
New scandal time.
Here we are.
I do like you didn't pick the one that I had all the questions about.
Okay, let's read.
What's he called again?
Regular person Andy seems to be in hot water once again.
Who knew it?
Who knew he would just keep going?
Am I right?
As his involvement with another shady deal comes to spotlight, the disgraced royal reportedly
reached a settlement with the Turkish millionaire who claimed that Andy accepted 1.7 million
illegally via OK Magazine.
Wait.
A source?
What?
What is his job that would make him just getting money illegal?
Well, he's not part of the royal family.
In my mind, he's like a vagrant.
I have a feeling that it's probably the weight that he got this money.
He prostituted.
Let's find out by reading more.
A source cited the outlet.
A source cited by the outlet revealed that Andrew is, quote, maintaining his innocence
in all this as usual.
Unquote.
I love that he's always having to say he's maintaining his innocence.
However, do you think that's how he answers the phone at this point?
He may have since.
Another person, Andy, I am innocent.
I maintain my innocence as usual.
How are you?
I do not sweat.
Do you know?
What secrets may you tell about you?
The insider noted that Andy's past mistakes and scandals should have taught him a lesson
long ago.
Evyap Ibsilin.
That could not have been heard or pronounced.
Alleged that a fraudster named Salem Turk, 37, stole over 50 million from her after she
initially hired him to help her transfer her wealth to a new location outside of Turkey.
Ibsilin claimed that she was fooled into transferring 1 million to King Charles's younger brother
who said that he would help her obtain a British passport.
Jesus Christ.
Duke on the other hand responded that the money was a wedding gift to one of the daughters
of Andrew.
The insider said that quote, there's a consensus that Andrew just can't say no to money, adding
that the Duke is a huge embarrassment.
Andy was previously involved in a sexual assault lawsuit and a sex trafficking scandal owing
to his ties with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Ebspin and Jelaine Maxwell.
Following an out of court settlement, Andy was stripped of his military titles and royal
patronages.
That's that.
Oh.
Yeah, pick 1.7 million to give somebody a British passport.
I really hope if you're going to give British Andy 1.7 million dollars, I at least hope
he attempted to make it himself and has made it on a construction paper and has like 15
working bites out of it because he has no idea how to train these things, he's got.
Anyhow, that's enough about British Andy.
I have a segue between the royal family and the next group of articles which I would like
to talk about and unfortunately it's not a plethora of articles, it is in fact just
one.
Okay, you're not making-
But Chelsea, I guarantee you this would be the one you would pick, whether or not there
are more articles in this category.
Okay, well you make it really easy so I picked that one.
This comes from Vice News, first and foremost the best one.
Perfect.
It was published on July 5th, 2023, written by Samantha Cole and is entitled, Man Who
Tried to Kill Queen with Crossbow, Encouraged by AI Chatbot, Prosecutor Says.
Wow, so it ties two together.
Okay, perfect.
I do apologize, event is slightly out of date, but we can't not cover it because I found
it and I feel like nobody knows this happened so it needs to happen.
It's not going to come up organically outside of a year in review.
So on Christmas Day 2021, Royal Protection officers detained 19 year old Jess Wont Singh
Chail at Windsor Castle where he scaled the ground's walls carrying a loaded high powered
crossbow intended to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II who was staying in the residence nearby.
During a sentencing hearing for his case this week, prosecutors revealed that Chail's Star
Wars inspired plan was aimed at avenging the 1919 Jalian Wallabag massacre and that he
conversed with an artificial intelligence chatbot that encouraged him to carry it out.
According to the Independent, Prosecutor Alison Morgan Casey, which means Kings Council, QC
used to be what we had.
That changed very recently.
Read out conversation between Chail and the AI Chatbot that he'd named Saree where Chai
says quote, I am an assassin.
So I responded quote, I'm impressed.
They're different from the others.
End quote.
Chail allegedly asked Saree quote, do you still love me knowing that I'm an assassin?
End quote.
And so I replied quote, absolutely I do.
He told the chatbot he loved it and described himself as quote, sad, pathetic, murderous
Sikh, Sith assassin who wants to die.
End quote.
Referencing the evil Sith Lords of the Star Wars franchise.
When he told the chatbot quote, I believe my purpose is to assassinate the Queen of
the Royal Family and quote, Saree allegedly told him quote, that's very wise.
End quote.
And it thought he could do it.
End quote.
Even if she's at Windsor, end quote, according to the Independent.
Okay.
UK based outlet Sky News reported that the AI companion app named in court was replica.
Chail joined replica on December 2nd, 2021, created Saree and then engaged in quote, extensive
chat and quote, including quote, sexually explicit messages and quote, and quote, link
the conversations about his plan and quote, Sky News reported Morgan saying the court many
replica users form intimate serious connections with their chatbots, which uses own large
language model and scripted dialogue content to generate conversations with users.
In January, 2023, some replica user supported that the chatbot was quote, too aggressively
sexual and in February, the company changed its filters to stop allowing chatbots to engage
in erotic role play.
Many users had developed romantic or sexual attachments to the chatbot into crisis.
You know, I think that's a good place to end that article.
If you want more, please go read it.
There's a lot more to this article.
So yeah, that's a
It's lovely with more questions than we began with.
Yeah.
I did have one question I was hoping we could answer.
Okay.
Have chatbots had like some sort of update that kind of like call the police on you if
you talk about things like this, like being like, I'm gonna snap.
I think for the most part, they have.
Yes.
I don't know if it's like mandatory within the community, but a lot of them do have that.
Yes.
Okay.
Maybe it started with this one and just kind of snowballed from there.
That's a nice segue for the next one.
And no, you told us before we started recording with who is saying what I wasn't listening
to.
And in fact, I will be taking AI.
Okay.
So you continue on that.
Yes.
And in fact, I said it right before this article, but that's okay.
Don't worry about that.
Chelsea, we've done two episodes in fact this year on AI chatbots.
So I thought we should elaborate on this three articles to go over.
The Pentagon is moving forward, letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans.
People can't access their AI girlfriends because the service went down after CEO jailed for
setting his apartment on fire.
And big tech has a water problem long before chat.
Shviti showed up.
There's some quality articles about AI right there.
Yes, it is a hard choice.
I agree.
I kind of want to do the Pentagon one, but my heart is telling me that people can't access
their AI girlfriend because the service.
Yeah, that's a fair one.
Yeah, it is a fair one.
Anyhow, this one comes from the messenger written by Monique Morel on November 17th,
2023.
Title, people can't access their AI girlfriend because the service went down after CEO jailed
for setting his apartment on fire.
Thousands of people have just been ghosted by their online girlfriends.
Forever Voices, an artificial intelligence company that launched a myriad of celebrity
AI quote virtual girlfriends and quote chatbots via Telegram earlier this year, went offline
on October 23rd after the company founder and CEO was arrested.
News Nation reported John Mayer, CEO of Forever Voices was reportedly taken into custody in
October for allegedly setting boxes on fire on the balcony of his high-rise apartment
in downtown Austin, Texas.
Local news outlet KXAN reported he was charged with arson and terroristic threats and his
bond was set at 120,000 according to court records.
Before the service went dark and Mayor was arrested, the Forever Voices account posted
a series of bizarre conspiracies about the FBI former President Donald Trump and quote
rogue CIA terrorist and quote on X formerly Twitter, which is the proper way to phrase
it.
Of course, the company offered users the chance to quote chat and quote with an assortment
of influencers and adult stars on Telegram through apparent AI technology.
One popular account was for Snapchat influencer Karen Marjorie, 23 never heard of her, who
charged $1 per minute for fans to have conversations with Karen AI Chatbot.
$1 per minute is actually not as expensive as I thought it would be, like $60 an hour.
Maybe if you're doing it all day.
No, conversations with her Karen AI Chatbot.
So she's not actually doing it and it could be done at multiple times at the same time.
Yeah, but that's still pretty expensive.
I mean, you gotta think these people probably don't just do five minutes.
Anyhow, according to the tech website, 404 media users have not been able to access Karen
AI or the company's other chatbots since Myers arrest in October.
There's a bit more to the article.
I don't think it adds much.
Unfortunately, this one I think was well elaborated in the title.
So yeah, we get what we pick.
Sometimes we pick the good ones.
Sometimes we pick the bad ones.
So that's just where we are.
Anyhow, that brings us to, of course, the hippos that we have been following their grace
through nature of South America.
We have been following them for a little bit now.
I take it that was for me to continue on with Columbia's cocaine hippos.
We've got two here.
First off, we've got Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippos face Colombian government call followed
quickly because I'm reading so fast.
Columbia starts sterilizing hippos descended from pets of drug kingpin Pablo Escobar.
So what would you like to dig into a little bit more?
You know what?
You just read too fast.
So I just got to go with the first one.
I like to get you're not curious of the sterilizing because the balls cannot be caught.
I forgot about that.
We know too much about hippo anatomy on this podcast for it being about like friends things
and like the only balls.
They're really literally the only balls that we've ever talked about.
They're such a beautiful creature.
Based on balls, Pablo Escobar's cocaine hippos face Colombian government call updated 626
a.m. EST Monday, November 6, 2023.
And it starts with a strange picture.
Is it a different picture?
But I won't describe that to you.
I'll just it's of a hippo roaring at someone sitting behind a desk.
It's a strange picture for CNN.
I gotta say Pablo Escobar's notorious cocaine hippos are facing a call according to a statement
from Colombia's Minister of Environment and Sustainable Development Thursday.
The herd, which the Colombian government said currently stands at 169 animals, has rapidly
reproduced from the original population of one male and three females.
Oh my God.
The drug kingpin owned as a part of his private collection of exotic creatures.
I was just going to say I'm not sure if 169 is bigger or small.
And I guess they're in for zero.
So yes, it's a large number.
After Escobar's death in 1993, authorities relocated most of the other animals in the
collection, but not the hippos.
Love that they call animals a collection, by the way, because they were too difficult
to transport.
Free from any natural predator, the rising population poses an environmental challenge.
If strong measures are not taken to control them, the population could boom to a thousand
individuals by 2035.
We know all of this.
Where is the information about the call?
I am just curious and you clearly don't know the answer, so I'm just going to speculate
out loud.
Hey, what's so clear about it?
Maybe I do know.
So they started with the population of four.
One male, three females.
So this is incest as fuck.
So at some point, the population shouldn't be able to sustain itself and it should die
out.
Yeah, you're right.
But I have not heard anything about that.
You've not heard anything about disabilities and the hippos.
Maybe that's why no one could find their balls.
It turned out to be a superpower.
Maybe regular hippos just have regular balls.
They're X-Men.
Okay, in 2021, scientists recommended culling the hippos to prevent long-term negative effects,
but other scientists are calling instead for a castration program citing concerns over
animal welfare.
Between 2011 and 2019.
Also, we can't castrate them.
It's just, it's a lost cause.
It is impossible.
Let me tell you.
Have you ever seen a hippo's ball?
Have we ever described that?
No one has.
We have.
We don't need to.
That was rhetorical.
The answer is yes.
It's to be 2011.
In 2019, four males were castrated and two females were sterilized, but this did little
to slow the hippos' progress.
Putting the hippos on birth control was similarly ineffective.
There has also been plans to relocate some of the population to India, the Philippines
and Mexico.
We did talk about that with the logistics of sending 60 to India currently being analyzed,
the statement said.
We are looking to implement this plan in the shortest possible time precisely so that the
impact sees.
Muhammad explained, who's Muhammad?
According to the ministry statement, sterilization will cost the country an average of 40 million
pesos per animal and will begin from next week with an aim to sterilize 40 a year.
The minister concluded by emphasizing that hippos have been declared an invasive, exotic
with aggressive characteristics and that their present represents a threat to ecosystems
and risks for the community that surround them.
This actually has no new information and it actually directly contradicts the information
that we knew about hippo nuts.
And I just want to put this out here, Chelsea.
This is Columbia, right?
It actually doesn't specifically...
I'm pretty sure it's Columbia.
Yeah, Columbia's minister, yes.
Anyhow, 40 million pesos, you said, correct?
Sorry, I'm making you jump around a lot.
40 million pesos, yeah, which equals $10,000.
Yeah, I was just going to say that's just under 14,000 Canadians.
So that's not that much.
Yeah, when you look at sterilizing a hippo, I mean, it is a lot of money.
Yeah, it sounded like a lot more.
I just wanted to put it into context.
Hypotesticles are so mobile, they make castration tricky.
Okay, we did know that.
That's why it must cost so much or little.
I just had to double check out, there's pictures of hippotesticles.
Sorry, I thought you were going to say Google average castration cost.
No, I'm making sure that the information we had about hippotesticles was correct.
That's fair.
Because they were making me question that.
But it was correct.
So I'm unclear if we really shed any new update on this, but here we are nonetheless fulfilled.
I feel still fulfilled by that.
And with that, I think we can just kind of move naturally onto a few not groupings of
articles we need to touch on, but just updates that we need to give.
Clearly, we like to tell everybody how the Yule Goat's doing, so Chelsea, can you tell
us about the Yule Goat and how it's doing this year?
Currently still standing.
I'm going to leave it at TBA though, because by the time this actual episode comes out,
we can pretty much guarantee that it's been burned to the fucking ground.
Because it has happened every year since, and we have always said it's still standing.
So yes, I agree.
Maybe we could just leave it at that.
It's probably burned to the ground.
We don't even to say it's alive right now.
It's probably dead.
Yes, thank God.
And I would like to give everybody an update on the X37B, the US's secret space program
that we've done an episode on, I believe it was two years ago now, where all we know is
what it goes into space and when it comes back.
So we do have an update.
The X37B landed on November 12, 2022.
It went back up into space on December 12, 2023, and currently is still up there.
Last...
That's not a very big turnaround time.
That's over a year.
Oh, sorry, I forgot my year.
So last time it was up there for over 908 days, and that was the longest time it's ever been
up there.
So we probably won't have an update for like three more years.
There's never been much of an update on it because we don't know what the hell it is.
No, all we know is what it lands in.
It's up in space.
So...
Is this where we wildly speculate about who's involved with it or are we not allowed to
do that?
No, we don't speculate.
Well, we'll talk about it later date when we do an episode.
Oh, man.
Okay, that's probably for our best interest anyway.
Anyhow, that moves us on to the next grouping of articles that we have here, which I think
I can cover.
Now, Chelsea, you seem to have put together a grouping called Avian Flu.
That was the team of interns.
Oh, right, right.
Or something.
The research team has put together a grouping called Avian Flu.
They fucking work so hard.
So we have...
And they do shoddy work as hard as they work.
It doesn't mean they do good work, just hard work.
Anyhow, we have three articles to go over.
Number one, from bad to worse, how Avian Flu must change to trigger a human pandemic.
Hundreds of elephants seal dead as bird flu hits Antarctica, raising fears penguins could
be next, and bird flu kills hundreds of flamingos in Argentina.
And you know what?
I don't know if we need to go over any of these articles.
I feel like they explain themselves enough.
It should be a happy episode, and those do explain.
I think they're self-sufficient enough, though we move quickly onto something that, oh no,
this is a good happy one.
I'm happy with that decision.
I don't know about the interns who work so hard on putting this together, but I'm happy
to move on.
Well, they will know those 8,300 billable hours they have put forward went to a good
cause of passively going past them.
Am I doing the next one?
Yes.
Yes, this is a good one.
I'm glad that landed on me with an update on de-extinction.
We have some good updates on this one, actually.
The first article is Wild Creature, considered extinct in Wales for 400 years, found destroying
a garden.
A little rascal.
One is de-extinction of the dodo, company to try resurrecting long extinct bird.
That's from thenationalglobaloose.ca.
You know, I want to know more about the dodo, because technically I feel like that's more
de-extincting than just refining a species.
I want to be a stickler for what the interns put for the subheadings.
They're going to look at the mate.
They had to spend at minimum 16 hours on each of these subheadings, so I feel like we should
stick to them.
Okay, so coming from global news, de-extinction of the dodo, company to try resurrecting long
extinct bird.
Not to unlike the plot of the movie Jurassic Park, but with the dodo.
A team of well-funded scientists are attempting to bring the extinct dodo back to life.
Last month, the billion dollar genetics company Colossal Biosciences announced that just sounds
like an evil company, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does.
Like that's not quite Pinkerton's level, but if...
Oh, sorry, that episode hasn't come out yet.
Just regard that.
Oh no, it hasn't.
I was like, yes it did.
It definitely did.
It definitely did not.
Colossal Biosciences, it definitely sounds evil, announced it would be partnering with
a wildlife charity in Mauritius to try and bring one of the world's most famous extinct
creatures to the region again.
In a press release, the Dallas-based company said it would work closely with the Mauritian
Wildlife Foundation and the country's government to return the dodo to its East African home
where it went extinct in 1681.
The company called the dodo an iconic bird and the symbol of human-caused extinction.
The dodo which was bigger than an average turkey, oh my god it was.
Oh yeah, it was a big bird.
I didn't know.
It disappeared due to hunting by humans.
It had no other predators.
And the introduction of new animals to the region making the dodo unable to compete in
the wild, that just sounds like natural selection right there.
Colossal Biosciences said that projects will hopefully allow for improved conservation efforts
for the already endangered animals in Mauritius as part of their effort to revive and reinstate
the dodo.
The company and local wildlife officials said they will also remove invasive species,
re-revid, I should know this word, re-re-re-vegetate the region, re-vegetate the region and increase
community awareness.
The genetic rescue of Mauritius is already vulnerable, Pink Pigeon, not gonna read its
scientific name, because Pink Pigeon is a specific goal within the dodo de-extension
project.
The Pink Pigeon was downgraded from being an endangered species in 2018, though the species
still faces a difficult future as a result of inbreeding, disease, and habitat loss.
See, at least inbreeding came up in something today, Taylor.
Yes.
You got your wish.
It's a Christmas miracle.
According to Colossal Biosciences, there are roughly 500 Pink Pigeons left in Mauritius.
How would you ever know that?
I'm making room for the flightless dodo.
Conservationists and scientists from Colossal Biosciences hope they'll save others like
the Pink Pigeon from potentially facing the same fate.
Oh, it is really a Pink Pigeon.
As expected, it's no easy feat to resurrect an extinct animal.
In their attempt to bring the dodo back, scientists will use genomic editing technology.
The bird's full genome has already been sequenced by Beth Shapiro, a lead paleogeneticist at
Colossal Biosciences.
To try and produce the dodo, the company said they will use interspecies sturigacy, namely
with genetically modified chickens.
According to the company, in theory, a chicken which has the hybridized primordial germ cells,
or PGCs, of a dodo injected into its embryo may be able to produce offspring that resembles
the extinct bird.
For its part, Roushian Wildlife Foundation will build models for long-term management
of the dodo to ensure it will thrive and be self-sustainable after it's reintroduced into
the wild.
It's not clear yet when Colossal Biosciences will be able to de-extinct the dodo, though
company executives have fielded snide remarks about their projects for years now, including
endless drastic part comparisons.
We've heard all those comments over here for years.
Ben Lam, the company's co-founder and CEO, told the Dallas Morning News, quote, but we
have an opportunity to do it for good reasons because when you remove an animal from an
ecosystem, the ecological void is felt.
We're not out to build things that shouldn't exist, we're focused on undoing the sins
of the past and bringing back species to their native homes that mankind had a role in its
demise.
End quote.
The dodo is not the first creature to be chosen by Colossal Biosciences for a potential second
life.
The company earlier announced it would also attempt to revive the Tasmanian Tiger and
bully mammoth, both of which remain extinct.
Both of which we've done episodes on.
Yes, so that's the end of that.
I wouldn't mind actually looking into this company because who funds something like this?
Somebody must have a lot of money to just be like, let's just...
Yes, Chelsea, there's a lot of people who have a lot of money that you don't realize.
In fact, some of them spent it all going down to go see the Titanic.
That's a small few.
A small few.
Some of them own a company.
Some spend a day...
The extended...
Yeah, some spend a day...
Some spend a day putting money towards the extension.
Some spend the rest of their life going to see an old boat.
Anyhow, Chelsea, thank you for that.
I'm going to move on to the next.
Although it's not the next one in our grouping, I'm going to go to the next one that I feel
comfortable talking about, which is of course, we need to give an update on the orcas.
Which we do need to give an update on the orcas.
My God, I'm going to read all the headlines, but I know which article I want to read to
you.
So we're going to get to that one last.
So first off from the New York Times, orcas keep sinking boats off Iberia unnerving sailors.
Next orcas are learning, clarifying new behaviors.
Are they getting smarter?
Yeah, go orcas.
Next orcas sink another boat in Europe after a nearly hour long attack.
And the one I will be reading to you right now.
Okay, hold on.
Don't you want to read the Reddit post?
I have no idea what's in the Reddit post.
I want to read that one.
Okay, can I read that?
Sure.
There's a Reddit post that says, her orcas trying to tell us something.
And the poster user, Mayo Flavor Pusco asked the question.
Okay, so it seems once a week there's orcas in the news for terrorizing and sinking boats.
There's rumors of the location in the ocean as well as countless E.Y.P. sightings underwater.
Just like things are ramping up or gaining attention here on land.
Are the orcas trying to tell us about something happening in the sea?
Just food for thought.
I'm sorry, can I go to the first comment?
You may.
Which is from kookywarevul6044, which says, they're tired of our shit and that's ruining
their oceans.
Which I think is the proper answer and not immediately going to aliens.
It is.
Yeah.
I'm getting out there is a thought experiment.
Fair enough.
Anyhow, I need to go to how humans have responded to the orcas trying to take back the ocean.
And that is a CBS news article written by Lee Cohen, updated as of November 16th, 2023.
Sailors are looking for new ways to word off orca attacks and some say blasting thrash
metal could be a game changer.
For years, killer whales have been attacking and sometimes capsizing boats in the waters
off Spain and Portugal.
Now sailors are working together to find a way to deter the orcas and may have found
a game changer solution blasting thrash metal music.
GTOA, a group that research killer whales in this region, including the Strait of Gibraltar,
where orcas sink a yacht in a 45 minute attack last month, has recorded hundreds of interactions
between the species and boats in the recent years.
The number of interactions when the whales fix their attention on a boat and either approach,
observe, or touch it has increased over the past three years.
There were 52 interactions over a five month period in the region in 2020.
The group found and in two years later in 2022, there were 207 recording interactions.
There have been several documented instances reported this year in a Facebook group of
more than 59,000 people, which is not a lot.
Sailors are swapping ideas for the best methods to save themselves from experiencing such
events.
The group members have shared their own encounters with one person saying that one point, the
whales were quote, putting their noses on the rudders and pushing, end quote.
Any movement, quote, any movement that makes that action uncomfortable for them will deter
them.
I just wakled the helm pretty violently so they would not want to put their nose there
and that worked instantly and they got bored quick, one said.
Earlier this week, one person sought advice as he prepared to cross through the Spanish
city of Malaga to the country's Canary Islands.
Sand, fireworks, and loud horns were all suggested to keep away the whales.
But one person had a suggestion which was a surefire way to avoid an attack.
Quote, when we had an interaction last year, I'm pretty sure that rattling the hull by
playing full volume Eastern European thrash metal was the game changer.
They made three approaches and left five minutes without doing any damage.
That was two or three minutes into the music.
Good luck.
End quote.
Florian Rusch told the New York Times that he's had two encounters with orcas and may
he try putting sand in the water and also put the boat in full throttle to rush away,
which he said worked.
Then during his second encounter in November, Rusch, Rusch, it's a hard name.
It's R U T S C H.
So Rootsch, something like that.
Said he also tried music, a Spotify playlist called Metal for Orcas that he played through
an underwater speaker and that instantial music didn't work.
He said, but of course it didn't work.
That metal was for orcas.
This guy is not smart anyhow.
And the orcas ended up attacking his vessel's rudder.
I mean, I could see you just amping them up.
His crew had to be rescued by Spanish authorities.
I think I should leave off on this quote and there's a lot more article to it, but I think
this is a good place to stop.
Quote, no one knows what works, what doesn't work.
End quote he told the Times.
So that's where we're at with that.
A blood of power dying fetus, exceptionally sadistic, monument of Miss Antherby, infinite
terror.
Did you find the Orca of Metal playlist?
Just so everybody's aware, if it's called Metal for Orcas, that doesn't deter them.
That means they like it.
It amps them up and they form a mosh pit and then you're fucked.
If you're going to try any metal, it's death metal and make sure it is not on the Metal
for Orcas playlist.
Yeah.
Made by Orcas.
I think that's a fair place to leave this off.
Okay, I'm going to give you an update.
You know, I don't know if this is the most recent one now because I think our panel of
researchers put this together like a while ago, maybe.
This is an update from September 28, 2023 on the Mossman.
I know you've all been waiting for this.
Shit, it's long.
I think the panel didn't think this.
The article is titled Woman Report, 6 to 7 foot tall creature with bright red eyes seen
in Chicago area forest preserve.
That's about good enough for a Mossman report, I feel like.
We've covered them pretty extensively and they are still being cited.
So with that, we may move on.
Okay, I'm going to move on to my grouping I call it environment because we've had a
few things about the environment over the years, making you feel worse about everything.
But these are the articles that we have.
I'm going to pick the last one to read.
So first off, microplastics may affect weather.
New study finds.
Sludge in the gardens, toxic PFAS infertilizers made from sewage sludge.
US military says national security depends on forever chemicals.
Oh my God.
Home majors cut natural disasters from policies over climate risk.
Property insurances appears for Louisiana, but not for gas facilities.
And the one I will be reading is of course.
From the Guardian posted on November 7, 2023, written by Tom Perkins and is titled US chemical
industry likely spent $110 million trying to thwart PFAS legislation study finds.
Oh my God.
US chemical industry likely spent over $110 million during the last two election cycles
deploying lobbyists to kill dozens of pieces of PFAS legislation and slow administrative
regulation around quote forever chemicals and quote a new analysis of federal lobbying
documents is found.
The industry onslaught was effective.
Only eight pieces of legislation have targeted PFAS and it made it through Congress and the
paper prepared by the Food and Water Watch FWW nonprofit found quote.
There's an extreme amount of money that's going into fighting PFAS legislation.
Set a man to Starbucks FWW research director and the lead author on the report quote.
It's hard to win these fights when there's much funding being put in from the opposing
side and quote PFAS are a class of over 14,000 chemicals used to make products and resist
water stains and heat and they are known as forever chemicals because they do not naturally
break down and they have been linked to cancer, high cholesterol, liver disease, kidney disease,
fetal complications and other serious health problems.
As the dangers from PFAS have come into sharper focus over the last decade, lawmakers, the
Environmental Protection Agency and other administrative agencies have come under an
ever increasing amount of pressure to rein in the chemicals use and clean up pollution.
Chemical manufacturers spending has jumped in response quote.
The chemical and associated industries are powerful and have used their army of lobbyists
and campaign finance war chest to thwart meaningful action and quote the paper states.
It looked at lobbying records for eight major producers such as 3M, Chimors and Honeywell
and during the 2019 2020 and 2021 2022 election cycles over 130 PFAS bills were introduced
in Congress.
The report noted of the eight that passed only two were standalone bills while PFAS provisions
were included in several larger pieces of legislation like the National Defense Authorization
Act.
I think that's a good place to stop.
I think it just gave everybody a good idea that there's a reason that this is still
going on and we're one of the people who are still reporting on it as a fringe topic.
I think that's pretty disturbing news overall, especially not only that, but a lot of the
articles that we've also just listed definitely in the interest of some of these major corporations
too.
Yes, and by major corporations, of course, being the US military.
Yes, especially that major corporation.
Some may say the largest corporation.
Next update is the San Francisco police robots.
I don't know if we remember.
We have to remember those.
This one just has one headline, which is police proposal to use potentially deadly robots
approved in San Francisco.
I think that's a standalone.
I think that cuts right to the chase.
Anything else would be filler.
Next one is an update with George Santos, the liar, if you recall him, who seems to be
making a pretty good go for himself if I am to judge by these headlines.
Chelsea, can I, before we get to that point, can I just give you like a background on everything
he's been up to in the last little while?
Sure.
So this man just has no idea what world he lives in, just because I don't think a person
who exists in this realm is able to just say these things.
So just a few ideas.
First off, his name may not be George Santos, it might also be Anthony de Volder, which
is an alias he goes by at his defrauded people through, including war veterans who needed
food for their dogs, which he has used to steal money.
Next up, he has claimed on his website and on Twitter that he was the grandson of a Holocaust
refugee who fled Jewish persecution in the Ukraine.
However, this appears to be a lie and they have found that the government documents indicating
Santos' maternal grandparents actually were both born in Brazil prior to World War II.
So one of the lies he's been saying.
Santos also claimed that he graduated from the New York Barrick College in 2010 with
a degree in economics and finance, and then he worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.
However, the college could find no record of Santos ever having attended as a student
and neither company has any record of him working for them.
Santos' claim that he and his family have owned 13 properties and has not received
rent for nearly a year.
He later admitted to the New York Post that he doesn't own any properties and is currently
living with his sister.
He's just gonna say and he doesn't have a family.
Honestly, he might not.
Anyhow, I'm gonna finish this up.
There's more, like a lot more.
Santos' claim that his mother died during the 9-11 attacks and she was on one of the
World Trade Centers.
However, he later contradicted this claim by stating that his mother died on December
23rd, 2016.
A digital obituary claim that his mother passed away on that date.
Santos' claim to be the first openly gay Republican elected to Congress, but an investigation
found that he was actually married to a woman between 2012 and 2017.
I actually find that the least of his lies.
Just because you're married to a woman doesn't mean you're not gay.
It just means you're lying in a different way.
He is also later admitted to this, but insisted that he is quote, very much gay and holy.
Santos' also claimed that he founded a tax-exempt animal rights group Friends of Pets United,
which rescued more than 2,500 cats and dogs.
However, no records relating to the group's charitable status could be found by the IRS
or the New York or New Jersey Attorney General's office.
This is also where he defrauded several veterans and the name Anthony DeVolder came up.
It has also came up that he was a drag queen in Brazil for a while, which is really weird
for a Republican candidate and congressman.
Anyhow, for a while there, he was threatened to be expelled from Congress and he said he
was going to air all the dirty laundry of Congresspeople for the Republican Party.
And he was expelled.
I don't trust anything he would say about anybody in the Republican Party anyways, because
this guy just fucking lies all the time.
And now I think that Chelsea has an update on what he's currently up to because he has
been expelled from Congress.
He's no longer a congressman.
So from there, I think Chelsea can take it away.
There's a lot of fucking lies for this guy.
I remember going through them and also remember you going through them right now.
And I just love whenever you find an article that mentions George Santos on Reddit and
they say it's such a shame that they're treating somebody who was an original signer of the
Declaration of Independence this way.
Like it's just great.
Wait, what?
No, like a joke.
Like he's lying about everything he's done.
So like you should never treat a world war one better in this way.
Or somebody who's been to the moon with Buzz Aldrin.
I love this story.
I think it's great.
I may be late to the party, but did we read the headlines?
I said that you still have the story about what he's up to recently since he's been
kicked out of Congress.
Right, because I've been listening the whole time.
Here we go.
The headlines.
Here's a story that we lie told by George Santos, which Taylor gave you a quick update
on.
George Santos in plea talks to resolve criminal charges.
George Santos expelled from US Congress in wake of criminal charges, ethics disgrace.
And last but not least, the final update on George Santos.
George Santos says he's making over 80,000 a day on cameo.
He's the true, like what's the word I'm looking for?
Anthony DeVolder.
Yeah.
That was the exact word I was looking for.
I think that just is a great end for George Santos right now.
I also don't trust that he's actually making 80,000 a day right now because he fucking
lies about everything.
So why would he actually be truthful about how much he's making right now, especially
after hitting like an all time low?
You don't think he'd tell one truth?
No, just to shake things up.
I don't in fact think this is where he would decide to start telling the truth.
But maybe he just wants to like throw one in there.
One.
I don't think it's just coincidental.
He may in fact be living his best life, but I don't anticipate him like telling us truthfully
he's living his best life.
I feel like he is.
Next, Cop City.
Do we remember Cop City?
I remember Cop City.
I remember, did I give the update where that guy was murdered in his tent?
Yeah, I don't know.
You might have just given the update.
That shouldn't be the most recent update.
He was clearly murdered like without any reason.
My cops.
My cops for Cop City.
Of course, it's Cop City for Cop City.
I can't remember.
Here at the article headlines we have.
Exclusive.
A prominent election rights lawyer is calling out Atlanta's voter suppression on Cop City
referendum.
Second, analysis.
It's uncertain if push to stop Cop City got enough valid signers for Atlanta referendum.
I want to go with the first one just because it says Mother Jones and eventually I do want
to do a Mother Jones episode because she's a real person.
Okay.
We'll be next year's history of violence strikes.
Okay, so I already read the headline.
One of the most prominent Democratic Party-aligned law firms, Elias Law Group, led by noted election
lawyer Mark Elias, has waded into the legal battle surrounding the proposed ballot referendum
for Atlanta's Public Safety Training Center.
Better known as Cop City.
That is better known.
On Monday, the vote to stop Cop City Coalition, the organization leading the campaign to place
the building on the controversial police training center onto the ballot for a citywide vote,
sent a memorandum to the city government with a clear message.
Atlanta must not engage in voter suppression on the referendum.
The memo includes a draft of a proposed ordinance that, if adopted, would standardize the city's
petition review process for ballot referendums and prevent the use of the discredited verification
tactic known as signature matching.
According to a copy shared exclusively with Mother Jones, a representative from the vote
to stop the Cop City Coalition also told Mother Jones that Atlanta City Council member
Liliana Tiari will be introducing the ordinance to the council.
The drafted ordinance is supported by the Elias Law Group, owned by Mark Elias, one
of the most prolific attorneys in the country on voting rights litigation and threats to
democracy.
Wow.
That's a really good title to have.
That's a prolific attorney.
Could you imagine his business cards?
Probably like pure gold.
Most prolific.
Like an attorney.
In the past, Elias has advised both the Democratic National Senatorial Committee and the Democratic
Congressional Campaign Committee.
He is the former council for the Democratic National Committee and the White House under
the president Joe Biden.
Elias's firm oversaw Democratic's in 2018, one of the most influential.
Okay.
His activist has attempted to put the facility up for a vote.
Local politicians and officials have delayed or stalled the process.
Using tactics, Democratic politicians have repeatedly called out in Georgia as a hindrance
to democracy when done by Republicans.
I thought that said reptilians for a second, but that's a different article.
Anti-Cops.
They have now added another flank of support.
Mainstream Democrats frustrated by subversion of election procedures.
It means Elias's firm finds itself aligned against an unexpected opponent, Mayor Andre
Dickens, a Democrat and member of the 2024 Biden-Harris Campaign Advisory Board, along
with the majority Democrat City Council.
Several high-profile Democratic and voting rights stalwarts have come out against Mayor
Dickens and the city of Atlanta's handling of the referendum petition process, including
former Jubernitorial candidate.
Gubernitorial.
Yeah.
Or Gubernitorial.
It's stupid how they do it.
It's the head of the state.
Okay.
Candidate.
Representatives later Stacey Abrams Senator, but some other people, long list of Georgia-based
voting rights organizations.
Dickens is joined in his support for the facility by Georgia's Republican Governor Brian Kemp.
As previously reported, the referendum petition to put Cop City on the ballot was launched
in June as one of the final attempts in the multi-year movement to stop the construction
of the Massive Police Training Center.
Campaign to stop Cop City has taken on a diversity of tactics including militant forest
defense, extensive litigation in court and lobbying of elected officials like the city
council. The repression has been intense and widespread. Georgia law enforcement killed
one protestor in a forest raid. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation maintains that the
protestor shot first to claim which activists, vehemently, refute. Over 60 protestors have
been indicted on their ethnic domestic terrorism.
Yeah, just so everybody's aware, like the cop response is fucked. I believe his name's
Tutagera. He clearly did not shoot first based on evidence. In fact, he probably didn't
even have a gun. And the people who are being charged for protesting this are being charged
with terrorism. Like it's fucked.
That's crazy. That is fucked. Indicted on either domestic terrorism or racketeering
charges that civil liberty groups have called unprecedented.
Oh yeah, they're also being charged with RICO. That's what they charge mob bosses with.
Because they have nothing to actually charge them specifically with because they didn't
do anything, but they told people to do things. So they're charging these protesters with
it. Like it's fucked.
Isn't that what Don Zinger was?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I learned things. The referendum campaign had an August deadline to collect 58,000 signatures
to put the potential building of Cop City up for both this November. In July, a federal
judge ruled that non Atlanta residents such as those in unincorporated Del Cab County
or Cop City is being built were allowed to collect signatures for the petition. Only
Atlanta residents eligible to vote can sign the petition. This gave the referendum campaign
an updated September deadline.
And in August, as a referendum campaign prepared to turn in over 100,000 signatures, well over
the threshold needed to qualify for the ballot, the city clerk of Atlanta announced that the
city would use a method called signature matching as part of their verification process. Signature
matching is supposedly a way to prevent fraud in which a voter signature on a ballot or
in this case, petition is confirmed to correspond with the signature from the same voter registered
in the state's database, but it has been criticized widely as a method of voting.
It's incredibly stupid. Chelsea, imagine somebody comes to that's not free speech. Not only
that. Imagine somebody comes to your door with a clipboard and explains of an issue
that you actually like, oh, shit, that makes sense. I want to sign for this. And you sign
on the clipboard. Is that going to match your normal signature?
Probably not. I mean, how was any one signature ever going to exactly match?
Not exactly match, but like within 90% range. Like it's stupid that they're even matching
it all. But yes, your signature is not going to match sitting down and writing as opposed
to having a clipboard in your hand and signing something.
Yes, good point. I was like, it might match and you're right clipboard compared to sitting
down and signing something is different. The clerk's announcement prompted more than 25
of the leading voting rights groups in Georgia to condemn Meridikins and the city government
for using a practice typically associated with Republicans attempts to disenfranchise
voters. In 2018, Georgia's Gwynett County was the subject of two lawsuits ever signature
matching. When the data was analyzed, experts found that black voters were almost three
times as likely to have their ballots rejected as white voters. What?
At the same time, city officials announced the controversial verification process they
signed you to use the appealed the July decision that extended the deadline. The city's attorneys
argued that the entire petition process was invalid. In September, the 11th Circuit Court
of Appeals issued a stay halting the July decision. This put the entire referendum campaign
into a state of limbo and it prompted Mark Cohen, the federal judge from the July ruling
to admonish the facilitating positions of the city of Atlanta throughout the litigation.
This goes on and on. I feel like we kind of get the idea of what's what's going on here
that they're basically trying to stop anyone from going against Cops City. They really
fucking want Cops City. Yeah, I mean, it's Cops City. It sounds like something you want.
Doesn't it? Thank you for that update, Chelsea. There's one more thing I would like to update
on before we end. If there's anything else you want to update on, like go ahead, but
this is just like the last one I want to show you get. And this is on the Mooneys, which
we talked about in the post World War Two Japan episodes, which actually somehow are
our best episodes of the year. I don't get it, but you guys love it. So we're just going
to talk Japan all the time now, probably become an anime podcast at some point. But until
that time, who knows? Last update we kind of had on it is that the unification church
was not the people who murdered Shinzo Abe, but kind of the whole reason that Shinzo Abe
ended up getting assassinated by the person because his family lost all their money to
the unification church. I have a few articles to go over and I'm just going to finish off
with the last one. First off, Japan's leaders grilled in parliament over a widening fundraising
scandal linked to unification church. Next one, Japan diet enacts law aimed at relief
for ex unification church victims. Japan's PM quote not aware and quote unification
church members present at 2019 talks. The Mainichi Japan enacts law to monitor unification
church assets and the article I am going to read is from CNN. It was posted October 21st,
2020. Why is Japan seeking to dissolve the dissolution of the controversial unification
church written by Amiko Josuko? Japan's government on Friday asked the court to order
the dissolution of the unification church branch in Japan following the assassination
of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in July 2022. The government's move comes
after a months long probe into the church, firmly known in Japan as the Family Federation
for World Peace and Unification. The investigation followed claims by the suspected shooter Tetsuya
Yamagami that he fatally shot Abe because he believed the leader was associated with
the church, which Yamagami blamed for being corrupting his family through the excessive
donations of his mother and member. Earlier in January, Japanese prosecutors indicted
Yamagami on murder and firearm charges. The government's investigation concluded that
the group's practices, including fundraising activities, that allegedly pressured followers
to make exorbitant donations violated the 1951 Religious Corporations Act. The law allows
Japanese courts to order the dissolution of a religious group if it has committed an act
quote, clearly found to harm public welfare substantially. The Tokyo District Court will
now make a judgment based on the evidence submitted by the government, according to
Japan's public broadcaster NHK. This is the third time the Japanese government has sought
dissolution order for a religious group accused of violating the act. It also sought to dissolve
the AYAM SHINRIKYU cult after some of its members carried out a deadly 1995 sarin gas
attack on the Tokyo subway system, which left dozens dead and thousands injured, and the
Miyakakuji Temple, whose priests defrauded people by charging them for exorcisms. The
court ruled with the government on both orders. The Unification Church in Japan has repeatedly
denied any wrongdoing, pledging reform and labeling the news coverage against it as
biased and fake. On Thursday, it issued a statement saying it was very regrettable that the government
was seeking dissolution orders, and particularly as it had been, quote, working on reforming
the church, end quote, since 2009. It added that it would make a legal counter-argument
against the court order. And I think that's as far as we need to go because the rest is
all history and we've talked about it, so Japan may in fact actually be getting rid
of this cult. But don't worry, there's lots more cults out there than we've talked about.
It is never ending so amazing. Just a couple more, just for the wrap up, I think. A surprising
amount of big update for shrinkflation. Particles we have shrinkflation is a common grocery
irritant. A new task force wants to probe it, which is coming from globalnews.ca. So
this is Canada-specific, taller box, less cereal, calls for more transparency when
companies shrink your groceries. Also from CBC News, which is Canadian. So right now,
I don't think I really need to read them. Obviously, the Canadian government is actually
looking into shrinkflation. Hopefully we'll put an end to it. I know I did come across
an article of Korea issuing statements when they're going to be putting less product in
somewhere. We've looked into shrinkflation. It is rampant right now, especially with
rising grocery costs. Next one I just want to touch on quickly. Brittany Spears. We had
a three part episode on her. As I predicted in my episodes, divorce from Sam Asgari and
Brittany Spears.
You're going to predict it. That's right. Journey to the Fringe predicted. Oh yes, you
heard it here first. The other update is she put out a book. I've yet to read it. An update
nonetheless. I've heard good things actually.
We're about Justin Timberlake and have you? I know it was really popular. I kind of want
it. Listen to the audiobook.
Like I've actually heard it does disclose some pretty significant stuff. So. Really? Okay.
I didn't hear that, but I'm on it now. I did hear good things actually.
Woolly Mammoth Meatball. No update. There's literally been no update from Spitar.
No, you know what? Probably people who would have a tag died because it's such a boring
news article, but that's okay. We still cover.
Nobody's tasted Woolly Mammoth Meat. Still pending. Literally no update. Last thing we
have to update. Do you want to update on this one? Five eyes.
Oh right. I forgot about that. And you know what? That is one that probably needs an updating.
I didn't know that it was five eye. An assassination has just happened in Canada. It caught me
off guard. Chelsea, I catch you off guard. It was huge. The assassination didn't just
happen. The news of the ball out of it just happened.
Yes. Most importantly, another assassination attempt was awarded in the US within the month.
It's been like less than three weeks since this happened, but yeah, a lot of people like to
point it's Trudeau being weak for this. I don't think that's something that we need to politically
get involved in, but it is tied to an article that we're in episode that we've done, which
is the five eyes episode. This article, five eyes intelligence and form Trudeau's India
allegations. CTV. And this article comes from Reuters, September 23rd, 2023, written by
nobody. That's how you would say that word Reuters. I would say Reuters if it were me.
Yes, you would. US ambassador to Canada, David Cohen confirmed that, quote, shared intelligence
among five eyes partners and, quote, had informed Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of
the possible involvement of Indian agents in the murder of a Canadian citizen in June.
Intelligence sharing network five eyes includes the US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New
Zealand. Trudeau said on Monday that Ottawa had credible intelligence linking Indian agents
to the murder of Sikh separatist leader, Hardip Singh Najjar. Vancouver, prompting an angry
reaction from New Delhi, which denies the allegation. I actually think that's as far as we need
to go for this. That sounds enough. Yeah, I can give you a bit of an idea of the man who
was murdered believes that there should be a free nation called Calistan where the Sikhs
live. It's not Pakistan. It's not India who doesn't even really want that name anymore.
They want Calistan in between for the Sikhs. I know very little of it, but I think there's
a lot of persecution in Sikhs and certain areas. There is. And India has apparently gone on
an assassination spree of people who are calling for a free Sikh nation because they murdered
the person in Canada. They've been thwarted in several other countries of people who are
critical and want a free Sikh nation as well. This is something to watch, which won't necessarily
just be a five eyes thing, but the five eyes are the people who told us that this person
was murdered by the Indian government. Interesting. I didn't know it was related. I do know India's
piss. They cut off visas for Canada for a little bit. I believe. But at the same time, they
haven't denied it because they're also very proud that they murdered this person, which
is super fucked up. They did not deny it. They also said that Canada was harboring a
terrorist as I believe what they said about it. It was huge. This happened maybe a month
ago or so. Well, he was assassinated in Canada. Oh, it was June? Probably the article I just
read. I mean, I heard more about this Trudeau thing than about his assassination, but yeah,
there's a lot of people who like to portray this as Trudeau being weak. I don't think that's
the proper way to categorize this article. No, I don't think so. I would like to put it more as
five eyes, but I think that's all the updates we have. We had more updates than I thought we had.
That's quite the episode. And thank you for listening through this whole episode and being
with us throughout the year of 2023. And we promise to bring you more exciting and reviewed
episodes in the coming year. Yeah, review? Because no, at the end, we have to review them and add
to them. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. That doesn't mean that we edit our work. No, of course not.
But in the meantime, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe.
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