1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,440 From the unexplained to the mundane, come join us on a journey to the fringe. 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,440 Hello and welcome to Journey to the Fringe. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,480 You may recognize us from our ad in next year's Sears catalogue. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,120 We are your podcast hosts, some of whom are only now realizing some puns are better written 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,380 than spoken, Taylor and Chelsea. 6 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:31,360 And today, I thought we would go a little exotic and just have some fun. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,080 We've had a few more real world implications stories the last of the while and international 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,080 in nature. 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,160 I thought we would stick to that, but in a more fun way, we're doing international 10 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:41,160 alien abductions. 11 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:42,160 It'll be a good time. 12 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:44,560 Oh yeah, I'm excited for this. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,880 So I have three stories, two out of South America, one out of Asia, and I think I was 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,880 to go through alphabetically, but I don't know what country technically the last one 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,680 takes place in or what country to categorize it as. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,240 I love that that was how you organized it. 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,160 It's funny the way writing an episode will come together. 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,640 But I need to also ask you international alien abductions. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,080 What kind of aliens are we talking about? 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 We're talking about the nefarious space dwellers. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Okay, good. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Because the other one doesn't suit our podcast. 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,760 No, we're not turning into a true crimes podcast, sorry guys. 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Okay, okay, I'm excited. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,560 I thought it would be fun just because we have said that sometimes UFOs can be a cultural 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,720 phenomenon where they change depending on the cultural background of where it takes 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,720 place. 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,840 So I thought it'd be fun just to look at cases and see how they differ from like we've seen 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,400 Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton story. 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,200 What other ones have we covered? 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,200 Abduction. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Oh, we did one like when we first started. 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,920 We did Benny and Barney Hill. 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 You know, I don't know that we've done any other abductions. 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,880 I feel like we have those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,000 I can't think of any other ones either. 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,080 I don't know if technically Serpo counts as an alien abduction, but not abduction if you 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,240 go willingly. 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,280 That was like they went willingly. 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Okay, but in any event, we've covered at least one North American abduction and therefore 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,320 we need to look at the rest of the world now. 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Good, it's about time. 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,160 We're going to start off our exotic tour in the South American country of Brazil. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Oh, nice. 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Yes. 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,800 And we're going back to October 15, 1957, when Antonio Vila Boa, who was a 23 year old 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,640 Brazilian farmer, was working at night to avoid the hot temperatures of the day. 48 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:38,560 He was plowing his fields near San Francisco de Salé when he saw what he described as 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,480 a, quote, red star and, quote, in the night sky. 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,600 The star approached his position growing in size until it became recognizable as roughly 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:51,040 a circular or egg shaped aerial craft with a red light at its front and a rotating capola 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,040 on top. 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,560 The craft began descending to land in the field extending three legs. 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Boa first attempted to leave the scene on his tractor, but when its lights and engine 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,120 died after traveling only a short distance, he decided to continue on foot. 56 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,000 However, he was eventually seized by a five foot tall humanoid wearing a gray cover all 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 and helmet. 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Its eyes were small in blue and instead of speech, it made noises like barks or yelps. 59 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:19,400 Three similar beings then joined the first in subduing Boa and then dragged him inside 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,400 their craft. 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Once inside the craft, Boa was stripped of his clothes and covered from head to toe with 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,880 a strange gel and he was then led into a large semi-circular room through a doorway that 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,120 had strange red symbols written all over it. 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,600 In this room, the beings took samples of Boa's blood from his chin, which is a very weird 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,600 place to draw blood. 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,800 That would be the last place I think I would go for for blood. 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,800 You know what? 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,720 There's not many worse spots, like maybe the elbow or like the kneecap. 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,880 I'm just gonna say kneecap. 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,920 No, that's pretty bad. 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,920 I'm not a nurse though. 72 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,640 No, if any nurses wanted to give us an opinion on this, I would gladly hear it. 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Chin? 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Yes or no? 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Yeah, chin like where would it range? 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040 After this, he was then taken to a third room and left alone for around half an hour and 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,400 during this time some kind of gas was pumped into the room, which made Boas become violently 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,400 ill. 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Shortly after this, Boa claimed, and sorry I keep saying Boas, Boa, this Boas. 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,800 And I'm not sure in Portuguese if the ass is silent or not. 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,240 So he's not a snake, his name is Boa or Boas. 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,760 So I'm gonna butcher it equally in both directions. 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,160 So Boas claimed that he was joined in the room by another humanoid. 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,760 This one however was female, very attractive and naked, hence how he knew it was female. 85 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Or you know, he kind of just assumed because I guess we just assume that other alien species 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,800 are gonna have the same genitalia as us. 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,800 True, could have been male. 88 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,800 That's their male. 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Could have been some sort of weird third or fifteenth sex that they have. 90 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,240 It's true. 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Yeah, good point. 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 The same height as the other beings he had encountered with a small pointed chin, probably 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 from having its blood drawn all out. 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,560 I was just gonna say. 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,320 And a lot of blue cat-like eyes. 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,160 It makes a lot of sense now why they drew it from the chin. 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,640 It was too wide. 98 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 It wasn't actually for experimenting, they were giving him plastic surgery. 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,120 The hair on her head was long and white, somewhat like platinum blonde, but her underarm and 100 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,880 pubic hair were bright red. 101 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Boa said he was strongly attracted to the woman and the two had sexual intercourse. 102 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,560 That term is highlighted, I assume. 103 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,840 I got this from Wikipedia, so I'm assuming you can take it to the sexual intercourse. 104 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:28,720 Oh, as an external link, okay. 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,160 The female did not kiss him, but instead nipped him on the chin. 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,280 This is a very chin-oriented society. 107 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:35,560 Yeah, no kidding. 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,800 That is bizarre. 109 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,560 How much chins are coming up? 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,360 I've encountered anything like it. 111 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,160 And when it was all over, the female smiled at Boa, rubbing her belly and gestured upwards. 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,320 What does this mean that she was going to raise their child in space? 113 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,920 The female seemed relieved that their task was over. 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,320 She could not enjoy it at all. 115 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,680 And Boa himself said that he felt angered by the situation because he felt as though 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,560 he had been little more than a good stallion for the humanoid. 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Boa said that he was then given back his clothing and taken on a tour of the ship by the humanoid, 118 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,200 and during this tour he said that he attempted to take a clock-like device as proof of his 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,120 character, but was caught by the humanoid and prevented from doing so. 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 He was then escorted off the ship and watched as if it took off. 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Glowing brightly, when Boa's returned home, he discovered that four hours had passed. 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,840 I really like that he was kicked out of the ship for shoplifting more or less. 123 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:31,840 You're stealing a clock. 124 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:32,840 I'm going to steal this clock. 125 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,840 Hey, hey, no, leave. 126 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:38,840 Can you imagine if he got away with the clock and he was like, look at this clock. 127 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:39,840 I got abducted. 128 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:42,360 He was like, yeah, there's a clock. 129 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,480 And just so that we're on the same page like visually, I'm picturing like a cuckoo clock, 130 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,480 big old German style. 131 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,480 Oh my. 132 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,480 Good. 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,480 Or like a grandfather clock. 134 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,480 Look at this clock. 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,480 I was abducted nearly. 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Okay, that doesn't prove I was abducted. 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Why do you keep that cuckoo clock on the wall? 138 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Well, let me tell you a story. 139 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Definite conversation. 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,480 It's just like that grandpa who rolled that car because of the skin walker. 141 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Yes, it is. 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Later becomes a lawyer. 143 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,600 Mary's has four kids and he's stuck that the story happened as he explained it up until 144 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,400 his death on January 17th, 1991. 145 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,960 I mean, could you go back on it? 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,880 I really don't think you could. 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,160 But maybe at some point, if it really was a ruse that you were having, you might just 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 say, you know what, I just want to go back to a normal life. 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,680 But I don't know. 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Okay, true. 151 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,680 You're not the guy that tried to steal a lot of coffee with a sweet shot. 152 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Yeah. 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Okay. 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,880 So, I would summarize that one with chins and clocks. 155 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Yes. 156 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Chin and clock one. 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Abduction. 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Okay. 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Okay, there's an investigation. 160 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,400 I used far too many words when two could have done. 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,120 So following this event, Boa's claimed to have suffered from nausea and weakness as well 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,800 as headaches and lesions on the skin, which appeared without any kind of light bruising. 163 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Eventually, he contacted journalist Jose Martins. 164 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Just assume that I said that impeccably in a Portuguese accent because Martin sounds 165 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,040 very English. 166 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,040 It does. 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Who had placed an ad in newspapers looking for people who had experienced with UFOs. 168 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,640 Upon hearing Boa's story, Martins contacted Oliva Fonte, the National School of Medicine 169 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,840 in Brazil, and Fonte was also in contact with the American UFO research group APRO, which 170 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,280 I think is now defunct, but it was the 1950s. 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,680 So examined the farmer and concluded that he had been exposed to a large dose of radiation 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,880 from some source and was now suffering from mild radiation sickness. 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,400 According to researcher Peter Rodgerson, the story first came to light in February of 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:42,440 1958 and the earliest definite print reference to Boa's story was April to June 1962 issue 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,840 of the Brazilian UFO periodical S-D-E-S-D-V bulletin. 176 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,440 That would be a Portuguese abbreviation, so no idea on that. 177 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Rodgerson noted that the story had definitely circulated between 1958 and 1962, was probably 178 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,480 recorded in print, but that details are uncertain. 179 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Boa was able to recall every detail of his purported experience without the need of hypnotic 180 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,160 regression, which is different than the Betty and Bernie Hill story, and the experience 181 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,200 happened in 1957, which is also several years before the Betty and Bernie Hill story. 182 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,920 So you can't say that that one influenced this one. 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Like there was no TV, and even then he was a farmer. 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Sorry, did you say that he came out with it or he said that it happened prior to that? 185 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,360 The earliest you can say that he started talking about it was 58, but in any event the Betty 186 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,240 and Bernie Hill happened in the 60s. 187 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,800 And that's the one that kind of revolutionized. 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,200 Oh yeah, they saw the Betty and Bernie Hill story, so they made something up similar to 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,040 that. 190 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,760 One of the first mainstream abduction. 191 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Okay, okay. 192 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,440 And researcher Peter Rodgerson, however, doubts the veracity of Boa's story. 193 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,080 He notes that several months before Boa's first related his claims, a similar story 194 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,960 was printed in the November 1957 issue of the periodical O Crucero and suggests that 195 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,720 Boa borrowed details of this earlier count, along with elements of the contactee story 196 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,440 of George Adamski, which we might do at a later date. 197 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,560 But that's the Brazil Chin Cat Clock story. 198 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:01,560 Wasn't a bad one. 199 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:02,560 I do like that one. 200 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:07,880 And I like that we can keep with Cs and can move on to another C of China next. 201 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,560 But Chelsea, do you have any questions about that story? 202 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:10,560 Anything you want to say? 203 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,640 No, I've been saying it as we go. 204 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,640 Okay. 205 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,240 So this story happens in the early 90s, actually. 206 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,400 So it's relatively recent. 207 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,840 That shows our age, I think, that we think that that's recent. 208 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,680 When you look at abductions, most of the famous ones happen in the 60s and 70s. 209 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:28,680 Okay, okay. 210 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:31,640 Folks, if you want to suppose it's relatively recent. 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,160 I still think of the 90s as like 10 years ago. 212 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Yeah. 213 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,120 Name of the main character in this story, Jiao Guo Meng. 214 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Jiao Guo Meng is a simple farmer and a woodcutter with a fifth grade education. 215 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,560 And apparently if this came up in several articles, so it must be important, no record 216 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,000 of untrustworthiness for it is China. 217 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,320 I keep records of untrustworthiness. 218 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:02,080 1993, he is 26 years old and he and other villagers noticed something sticking out 219 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,200 of the side of a mountain in the distance. 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,200 It's the Phoenix Mountains. 221 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,720 I can't remember the name of the province. 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,240 I think it comes up later though. 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Meng and his niece's husband want to investigate thinking that a helicopter may have crashed 224 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,760 and they could scavenge something from the wreckage. 225 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Meng later described seeing a large oval object with a long tail, totally smooth with no discernible 226 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,520 doors, a giant spacecraft. 227 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,400 Meng and his relatives moved closer and when they were about 150 meters away, they felt 228 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,520 a surge running through them, like electricity paralyzing them as if walking against an invisible 229 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,520 barrier. 230 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Some sort of force field surrounded the craft. 231 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Later Meng said a beam of light struck him and he fell to the floor. 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,600 When Meng visited a doctor, he felt electricity surging through him again when the stethoscope 233 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,760 was placed on his chest. 234 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,160 In fact, anything metal would set off his reaction for hours after the incident. 235 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,520 After a few days, one night he found himself floating above his bed with his wife and daughter 236 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,840 beneath him sleeping and a 3 meter tall alien with fur covered legs and six fingers was over 237 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,840 him. 238 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,000 Meng said that the female alien had been copulating with him for over 40 minutes when the creature 239 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,560 finished having pleasure. 240 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:07,560 She left an unusual 2 inch long scar on Zhao Guo's thigh, which was not caused by any 241 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,680 surgery or normal injury as described by doctors. 242 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:15,680 This next statement, I could not find the image associated with it, but I'm very curious 243 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:16,680 if it's out there. 244 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:17,680 I just could not find it. 245 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:21,680 Zhao Guo drew a sketch of the creature and apparently it looked like a sketching of a 246 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,560 hairy cousin of the Michelin man. 247 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,840 Which I don't know if that means it actually looked like that or maybe he's just not 248 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,040 bad sketcher. 249 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Zhao Guo also stated a month after this erotic encounter with the alien, he found his body 250 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,600 passing the ceiling of his home once again. 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,480 He said that he flew through the stratosphere into a spaceship where he saw several aliens 252 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,840 talking in Chinese. 253 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,720 They said in Chinese, but with a heavy accent so it was hard for him to understand, that 254 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,640 they were refugees and they wanted to escape their former lives so they left their dying 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:49,640 home. 256 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,120 While on board, these aliens urged him to see his alien lover one more time, their 257 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,880 request was denied by Meng. 258 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,800 And the aliens also told him that in 60 years on the far away planet, which I think they 259 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,360 said was doomed, his alien human hybrid son would be born. 260 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,360 60 years? 261 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,120 60 years, yeah, that's a hell of a gestation period. 262 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Earth years, maybe. 263 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,440 I assume Earth years. 264 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,720 Okay, so that could be nine months in that planet? 265 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,720 You never know. 266 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 It could be 60 years on that planet is nine months here. 267 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Who knows? 268 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,080 But yeah, assume they're talking about Earth years because they're talking to him and 269 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,120 he'd have no way of knowing their planet. 270 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Yeah, that's true. 271 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,120 True, true. 272 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,400 When you're talking about time with aliens, it gets really weird because we base all of 273 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,440 our time telling technologies or references on events on Earth. 274 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Yeah, and it's only relevant here. 275 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,040 The aliens were dressed in head to toe, curious black cloaks with no seams. 276 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,760 They also said that they were there to escape danger and to observe you and your planet. 277 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,920 They then showed Meng some kind of screen and it was showing a comet hitting Jupiter, 278 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,760 which was really weird, but whatever. 279 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Like just for fun. 280 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,480 This was a rare celestial phenomenon, which did actually take place on July 17th, 1994 281 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,800 when comet Xiumet here, Levy 9 crashed into Jupiter. 282 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,800 This has been cited by believers of Meng as evidence of the truthfulness of his story 283 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,400 because you know, he was a peasant Chinese farmer, so he'd have really no way of knowing 284 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,440 or seeing that outside of being shown by somebody else. 285 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Meng also said that the aliens visited him once again in 2016 and they gifted him part 286 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 of the comet that hit Jupiter. 287 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,160 And the rock the aliens supposedly gifted him in 2016 was later analyzed and said to 288 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,520 be an extremely rare precious metal called Turbium. 289 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,800 I only found that in some of the stories, so I don't know the veracity of that. 290 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,040 I also didn't look into what Turbium is. 291 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,080 So since this story took place, Meng has gone through several lie detector tests according 292 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,080 to some sources. 293 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,600 He was telling the truth and also after that he has never seen aliens. 294 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,840 But again, the story kind of changes depending on who you're talking to. 295 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Yeah, that last part. 296 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,560 Of course, except for if you're dealing in giants, the story is exactly the same every 297 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,680 time. 298 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,800 When his alien abduction story reached the media, he received many gifts from people, 299 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,320 which included a cow, a TV, and a job in Harbin City. 300 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,320 Yeah. 301 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,320 A cow and a job? 302 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Yeah. 303 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,320 I know this guy. 304 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,320 The jackpot. 305 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Um, that's generally not what happens with UFO. 306 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,920 No, that's the opposite. 307 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Yeah, I'm so proud of him. 308 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,480 That's yeah, I don't know what to think of that one. 309 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 I mean, that there's a bit more to the story too. 310 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Now news of mom's extraordinary encounter in 1994 quickly spread and investigators from 311 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,840 the country's then virgining UFO clubs descended on the small logging community. 312 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,200 When they reached the suspected landing site of the spaceship, they found scorched marks 313 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,760 on the surrounding trees, some rocks split into pieces, and they stated that we guessed 314 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,880 it was from an aircraft landing or taking off. 315 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,560 And the first chairman of the Beijing UFO Research Organization, which was established 316 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,160 in the 1980s, told this story basically in January after this took place. 317 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,120 And during the same investigation, Wang Fengchen, again, that director, recalls how a researcher 318 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 with the Chinese Academy of Scientists brought a Geiger counter along to Meng's home, but 319 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,160 found that the instrument for measuring radiation went haywire and wouldn't take an accurate 320 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,480 reading near the wall where aliens supposedly entered Meng's home. 321 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,680 He said, quote, I saw this with my own eyes and I can't explain this phenomenon. 322 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,680 End quote. 323 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,360 The story was first reported in local magazines and made Meng a minor celebrity during the 324 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,120 time when curiosity about UFOs and science fiction and the universe was beginning to 325 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,480 boom in China as the economy and society opened in the 1980s and 90s, as media control Lucent, 326 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Science magazines and journals spread across the country and soon enthusiasts founded clubs 327 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,920 and associations for UFO research with tens of thousands of members. 328 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,200 However, over time, actually, Chinese UFO research falls off and I have a separate episode 329 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,160 that's actually going to go a bit over that. 330 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,480 That's going to come out in the new year. 331 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Oh, that sounds fun. 332 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Meng's story was fantastical, but at least some of China's new UFO enthusiasts believed 333 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,360 him and a number of organizations even sent research teams to the site where the alien 334 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,560 ship had supposedly landed and also of to Meng's home to get the full story from him. 335 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,080 His story is still probably the most famous UFO sighting in China and one of the most 336 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,840 investigated and discussed. 337 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,800 It turned Phoenix Mountain and Heilongjiang into a pilgrimage site for UFO enthusiasts 338 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,920 in China and some of whom have also reported sightings of identified flying objects in 339 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,720 the sky, including two allegedly caught on camera in 2005 and 2012. 340 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,200 I couldn't find that footage. 341 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,160 His story has also been widely mocked as they usually are. 342 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Meng Zhao Guo has no credibility. 343 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,760 Local leaders have said he's mad, said former Secretary General of the Beijing UFO researcher 344 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Zhou Xiaocheng, and he said this in a Story FM podcast, quote, lots of the people who 345 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,360 went to investigate already believed him, so they were easily led astray, which I can 346 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,960 also see if it's kind of a new thing that's happening in China. 347 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Yeah, I didn't find that really interesting. 348 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,480 I can't cover all this episode because I want to keep it for that later episode, but how 349 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,800 it did start out in the early 90s UFO investigations in China and then was kind of squashed away 350 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,680 fairly quickly after that. 351 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,920 That's about right. 352 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Once you hear the story behind it, it's going to be very interesting. 353 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,040 Oh, OK. 354 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Well, based on just what you told me right now. 355 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,720 It's not just because they're a dictatorship. 356 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,720 Oh, OK. 357 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Yeah. 358 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,000 Well, that's not foreshadowing. 359 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,400 That's just like a teaser. 360 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,080 I'm intrigued on that. 361 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Is that all the story? 362 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,440 That's the end of that story. 363 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,440 Yes. 364 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,440 I don't know. 365 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,440 That one sounds credible. 366 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,680 The hard part is because it is such a unique and different language than ours and China 367 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,080 is a more closed off society than a lot of North America. 368 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,240 The story is told several different ways, with some parts maybe being a little fabricated 369 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,920 like my instinct is that last little bit isn't true about that 2016 meeting. 370 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,160 Potentially that part about the comet crashing into Jupiter two because it ties in with that 371 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,280 2016 meeting. 372 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,840 I didn't find it in every story, so I don't know if it's part of the original story. 373 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,960 But nonetheless, I like the juxtaposition of the two aliens that we've seen, a small 374 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,200 cat-like chin oriented society and a furry Michelin man group. 375 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200 I always love. 376 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,160 I was looking for the next sci-fi blockbuster about the 377 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,600 I would love to see it. 378 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Yeah. 379 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,400 And I'm excited to hear what we have next. 380 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Unless that's it. 381 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 No, there is one more. 382 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,720 And this is the one I wasn't really sure how to geographically orient it or geographically 383 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 orienting would be the best way to do it. 384 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Because this takes place during a race called the Vuelta de America del Sur, which is the 385 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,200 South American tour. 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,200 It's a car race that basically goes all the way around South America. 387 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Oh, interesting. 388 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,800 The team that we're going to be focusing on is out of Chile and the events take place 389 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,160 in Argentina. 390 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,760 This is the South American tour starts in Buenos Aires and you drive to Caracas in Venezuela 391 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,840 and the north. 392 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,120 And then you have to drive down the Pacific coast down Chile and then back up to Argentina 393 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,800 and Buenos Aires to finish it. 394 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,800 It really fits international. 395 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,880 It wouldn't be more international. 396 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,000 So the race starts on August 17th of 1978 and the events that we're going to be discussing 397 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,160 happen in September. 398 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,720 So like on September 23rd. 399 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Wow. 400 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Okay. 401 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Very, very long. 402 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,720 We're going to get into this race. 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,400 You've got to take like a sabbatical from work to be heard. 404 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,520 Well, I think you get paid for this. 405 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560 I think the professional drivers. 406 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Oh, really? 407 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Yeah. 408 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,560 Like limo drivers. 409 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Sure. 410 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Why not? 411 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,560 It's a race. 412 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Okay. 413 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,120 The team in question is Carlos Acevedo and Hugo Prans. 414 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:29,840 And this is usually referred to as the Pedro Luro UFO abduction. 415 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,360 And I was like, well, neither of those guys' names is Pedro Luro. 416 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,680 I don't get why it's called that. 417 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,200 It turns out that the city takes place in is Pedro Luro. 418 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Okay. 419 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Then my next option was going to be that was the aliens name. 420 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,560 So these two leave Buenos Aires on August 17th, 1978 as part of the South American rally's 421 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,840 first stage, Hugo Prans left the city of Baralos on September 16th. 422 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,200 He couldn't participate in the race anymore due to personal issues. 423 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,160 And he's replaced by Miguel Angel Moyo on September 23rd in the early morning, Acevedo 424 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,440 and Moya complete the final 1000 kilometers of the rally. 425 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:08,640 They stopped at the ACA post in Viedma in the province of Ronegro around 2am to refuel. 426 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,160 They filled the standard 50 liter tank and an additional 40 liter tank. 427 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,040 They had coffee and chatted with some of the competitors for a short while after crossing 428 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,400 the Rio Negro and passing through the town of Carmen de Patagones. 429 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,680 Citroen number 102, which is the name of their car was back on the road to Bahia Banca at 430 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,200 2 30am in the morning. 431 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,200 2 30am. 432 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,920 I do not need in the morning there. 433 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:35,600 They were at the height of the Saletral del Algaropo and Salina de Pedro, about 30 kilometers 434 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,160 north of the city of Carmen de Patagones by 3 o'clock after leaving the intersection 435 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,200 of Route 3 and the local roads that led to Cardinal Cagliero. 436 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,520 I think we're getting to the end of where I have to butcher Spanish, so just bear with 437 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,800 us for a little while. 438 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,200 The Citroen's driver at the wheel was Carlos Acevedo and here abruptly noticed a bright 439 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,440 light in his car's rear view mirror. 440 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,280 The light was dim and yellowish. 441 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,440 It was initially just a dot in the mirror, but it gradually grew more prominent. 442 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,000 At the moment Acevedo and Moe moved at almost 100 kilometers an hour and the light was coming 443 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200 on quickly despite this. 444 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,160 Acevedo assumed they were the headlights of a competitor, so he decided to significantly 445 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,360 slow down and stay to the right side of the asphalt strip to allow the car to pass. 446 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:21,320 The light was already visible in the rear view mirror and was advancing quickly. 447 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,000 Acevedo and Moe's Citroen passenger area was filled with light at once. 448 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,360 And this is direct close from Acevedo. 449 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,920 Viedma is 30 kilometers away. 450 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,600 I noticed a dense yellow and violet light approaching me in the rear view mirror. 451 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,640 And sorry, I assumed this was translated. 452 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800 I don't think he spoke English, so apologies. 453 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,680 But that's where we're going. 454 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Given the speed, I initially believed it to be a car traveling at about 300 kilometers 455 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,560 an hour. 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,560 Totally reasonable. 457 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Okay, I accept. 458 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,240 I made an effort to yield, which I would do also to a 300 kilometer an hour car. 459 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,880 You wouldn't even see that coming. 460 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,880 No. 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040 We saw a skinwalker. 462 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Or that or he rolls down the window to talk to it like the girls who saw the Mothman. 463 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Roll down the window. 464 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,600 So he made an effort to yield and move to the left and then light flooded the cabin. 465 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,040 We could only see as far as the car's hood. 466 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,200 It was intensely bright and yellow with hints of violet. 467 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,800 The car seemed to be out of control at that precise moment. 468 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,920 We were six feet away from the asphalt when I peered out the window. 469 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,200 So I think that means he was like floating six feet in the air. 470 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,200 Okay. 471 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,320 I'm just gonna say like I wouldn't be measuring how far away it was from the road if I was 472 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,320 still on the road. 473 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,320 Yeah. 474 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,200 And I don't think it means he went into the ditch. 475 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,760 No, because, okay, I could see why you'd say, okay, okay. 476 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,160 I don't understand the sentence. 477 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,320 I think this is something of a translation error, but this is his next part of the story. 478 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,480 I immediately thought we had jumped on the back of a donkey and I immediately began to 479 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,680 fly bracing myself for the eventuality that we would make contact with the asphalt once 480 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,680 more. 481 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400 And then going down, the car appeared to be climbing uncontrollably. 482 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,200 No, that doesn't make sense, especially the donkey part. 483 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,800 But I think, I think all we need from that is he is floating upwards. 484 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,800 Yeah. 485 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Okay. 486 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,000 I did grasp that. 487 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560 After a few seconds, maybe five or 10, I don't know. 488 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,840 As I was reacting, I became aware that this was utterly abnormal. 489 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,320 I wanted to recheck the view out the window, but all I saw was this obtrusive light. 490 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320 What's up? 491 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,160 I remember shouting, but Moe did not respond. 492 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,940 My partner wasn't there when I looked to my right, or at least I couldn't see him. 493 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:24,200 I couldn't even see the dashboard to be honest. 494 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,800 I just noticed that light, a dense thing that looked like a liquid, I don't know, something 495 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,800 sticky. 496 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,880 Moe also has a bit of a report of what happened. 497 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400 I don't know how long it was, maybe a minute or two, but I felt a slight jolt and I knew 498 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680 immediately that the car was back on the road. 499 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,680 The yellow light appeared to dim at that precise moment and I gradually gained the ability 500 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,720 to see my surroundings, including the dashboard and the car's hood. 501 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,640 We were stopped entirely on the shoulder on the wrong side of the road to the left of 502 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 the road when I peered out the window and saw the land. 503 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,000 The light abruptly vanished and I observed it travel towards the west. 504 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,160 It resembled a cone of yellow light, but it was truncated rather than ending in a point. 505 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,760 It would be six, maybe seven meters high with four or five meters wide base and a top two 506 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,400 or three meters high. 507 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Although you couldn't see the base, although you couldn't see what the base was illuminating, 508 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,080 because it wasn't visible through the light, it lit up the surrounding area. 509 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Short while later, the light, how should I put it, retreated? 510 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Do you know anything visible after or that rose like a curtain from bottom to top was 511 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,800 an oval of yellowish white light that continued toward the west before dissipating into the 512 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,800 sky. 513 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Everything happened at once, leaving us alone on the road. 514 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,840 We looked at each other, but were unable to communicate with one another. 515 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,480 It was difficult to breathe because I was numb, my hands were shaking, my chest was tight. 516 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,400 And that's the end of their statements. 517 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400 Acevedo and Moya remained motionless briefly, unable to move or do anything. 518 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Finally, Acevedo exited the car to check that everything was in place. 519 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,600 He states, he quickly re-boarded the car and they promptly continued north on route three. 520 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,120 The Chilean crew of Citroen number 102 traveled for 15 minutes before arriving in Pedro Luro, 521 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:03,440 a city 123 kilometers north of Carmen de Patagonas in the province of Benizarres. 522 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,880 The odometer indicated that they had traveled 52 kilometers from the city of Viedma to Pedro 523 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,880 Luro. 524 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,800 The actual distance between the two locations is 127 kilometers. 525 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,920 Oh, did they win the race then? 526 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,080 There's a 75 kilometer discrepancy on how far they should have traveled on the odometer, 527 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,240 which is really interesting. 528 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,320 I hope that put them ahead in the race. 529 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,000 We're gonna get to that, don't you worry. 530 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600 And not like further behind in the race. 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,720 On the other hand, they arrived in Pedro Luro at 5.10 am, having left the urbanized area 532 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,240 of Carmen de Patagonas at around 2 am. 533 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,360 They also discovered the secondary tank, which they had filled up at that check stop at 2 534 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,480 am with 40 liters of gasoline, was empty. 535 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,640 And as if that weren't enough, they showed up at the control where the race finishes 536 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,960 two hours early, right after the vehicle arrival desk had been set up. 537 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,960 They finished the race labeled as a regular in the race results. 538 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,800 The witnesses became even more perplexed as their fear increased due to the reported 539 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,800 facts. 540 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280 They decided to report the UFO incident to the Pedro Luro police. 541 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,320 General Inspector Daniel Ossami diligently looked after them and they gave him the specifics 542 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,320 of what occurred. 543 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,200 A week after the incident, the political focus magazine, Somos featured an illustration 544 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,200 of the car illuminated by an alleged UFO with the headline, quote, and this is the English 545 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,880 version of the headline, obviously, the strange case of the flying car on its cover. 546 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,200 The letter also contains a complaint to Acevedo and Moya, in which they retell the UFO incident 547 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,320 with a Pedro Luro police officer. 548 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,000 This is a quote from the officer about the interrogation or the talk about what happened. 549 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,080 They were about to cry when Acevedo desperately grabbed the head while Moya could not speak 550 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,880 and peered paralyzed. 551 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,680 Official Inspector Jorge Ossami, who had been called to the scene by the station's 552 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,360 night watchman, gave his assurance. 553 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,480 The case was obscure until 2000 when Chilean journalist Patricio Barros spoke with Miguel 554 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,720 Angel Moya about his UFO abduction. 555 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800 The copilot recalled that when the car's lights turned on, quote, a long corridor with 556 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,760 doors on both sides appeared, we were making progress through those doors. 557 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,000 The light was visible. 558 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,400 Carlos was screaming and I knew he was there. 559 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,960 When we reached the end of the hallway, a dome was there. 560 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720 The light rotated from a sign that hung there. 561 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,200 Two creatures came towards us. 562 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,000 It looks like Martians got us, idiot. 563 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680 I said in response to Carlos what's wrong question. 564 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,960 He returned to the car after the entire scene vanished at that point and they were disqualified 565 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,080 from the race due to the unusual event that the two Chilean drivers led in the middle of 566 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,800 the rally in Argentina. 567 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,880 The organizers believed they had engaged in cheating, but there was no way to prove 568 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,880 it. 569 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,080 The two were the same, Air Force personnel who interrogated the pilots in Venezuela later 570 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040 asked them to describe the incident in detail. 571 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,240 I think pilots might be the wrong word there. 572 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Drivers, probably better. 573 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560 They took the clothing they were wearing the day of the incident and ultimately asked 574 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,960 them not to comment on what had happened so as to not alarm the population according 575 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,040 to a Savito and Moya. 576 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,320 That's the actual event itself. 577 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,040 There's a bit more to the story from there. 578 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:58,160 The cover of the Bolton UFO press October 1978, Inspector Jorge Ocime claimed that despite 579 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,200 extreme nervousness when testifying at the Pedro Luro police station, the witnesses were 580 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,000 fully aware of their mental faculties. 581 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Ocime checked the auxiliary fuel tank for cracks or holes so the disappearance of the 582 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400 40-liter fuel had no known cause. 583 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,520 Police Corporal Yes Garza claimed to have seen how anxious the witnesses were on the Pedro 584 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,920 Luro Bahia Blanca tour and they hardly said a word to one another. 585 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,320 A Savito was momentarily startled when a car trailing the Citroen flashed its high beams 586 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,320 to signal. 587 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,080 The next man at the gas station, Hector Forte Ceseto, was the first to contact the witnesses 588 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,080 following the incident. 589 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400 They appeared to be very anxious, especially La Moya. 590 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,400 He observed. 591 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680 He recalls hearing them talk about the issue of gas mileage and running out of fuel. 592 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,600 In Fortecizato's opinion, the witnesses were sincere and the disquiet and bewilderment 593 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,480 they revealed were impossible to fake. 594 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,800 And Fortecizato claimed that between 4.30 a.m. and 4.15 a.m., Acasubi, the residents saw 595 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,920 a powerful intense yellow light move quickly in a western direction. 596 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,560 And that's the end of that tale. 597 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,560 I like that one as well. 598 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,560 That was a good one. 599 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,360 I like that there's a lot of hard facts to look at, like the fact the odometer was off 600 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,120 and gas is missing. 601 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,360 And obviously there are ways to fake that. 602 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,360 They got disqualified. 603 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,160 So why would you, I guess you're trying to come up with a reason to stay in the race 604 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,600 maybe, but I don't know. 605 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,600 It's an interesting story. 606 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,600 True. 607 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,680 I mean, if I was trying to stay in the race, I probably would have said, oh, I don't know. 608 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 That might be a reason I would give perhaps. 609 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,840 But I like that one. 610 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,640 That is our tour abroad of UFO abductions. 611 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,520 We really got around South America. 612 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,520 Yeah, we did. 613 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680 And that last one really got around South America. 614 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Yeah. 615 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,800 I think those were some good ones. 616 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,480 It was about time we got to some otherworldly within our world abductions. 617 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760 And that goes along with whatever episode we just did about International Ghosts. 618 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,760 Yes. 619 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,960 We're really culturing everyone. 620 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,960 Yeah. 621 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,960 It's about time. 622 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,280 We've really taken a back seat in the last of a while, I think, for small talk topics 623 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,280 at fancy events. 624 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,280 Yes. 625 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,960 And it's good we got back to our roots here. 626 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,960 It's true. 627 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,280 That is our roots. 628 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Yeah, that's what people need us for. 629 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Okay, I know. 630 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,440 I know that should be a major focus is helping you out in awkward social situations where 631 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,880 you have nothing to talk about. 632 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,280 I've brought up Vegetable Man a remarkable amount of time since we did that episode and 633 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,760 still no more friends. 634 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Nope. 635 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Not a one. 636 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Tell them it doesn't work Chelsea. 637 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,480 That's not how this works. 638 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Shit. 639 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,480 I mean it definitely made me really happy. 640 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,680 I have so many friends now. 641 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040 I have too many friends to choose from. 642 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,040 I just can't choose. 643 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Anyway, abductions. 644 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,320 I like that episode. 645 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,320 That was great. 646 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,720 And if you too wish to have just as many friends as us, send us $5 via e-transfer to 647 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,520 the email that you'll hear shortly. 648 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720 Anyhow, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. 649 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,280 We are Journey to the Fringe. 650 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. 651 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,480 Bye. 652 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Thank you for listening too Journey to the Fringe. 653 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,320 If you have liked what you have listened to, please like, share, subscribe, or follow 654 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,640 depending on what venue you are listening to us through. 655 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Also please if possible, leave a 5 star review as that really helps us in the algorithms. 656 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Should you wish to interact with us, please check us out on your social media of choice. 657 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360 I bet you we are 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